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#rockbox log for 2010-09-25

00:00:36*gevaerts spots something
00:03:38gevaertssoap: could you try
00:03:40gevaerts ?
00:03:47soapone min
00:05:45slothearnshuffle2: I did something fairly naughty :3
00:06:25slothearnthey'll ban me :P
00:06:39slothearntesting it now
00:06:47slothearnloads, is backing up, etc...
00:06:55slothearngotta test the real function of it next
00:07:16shuffle2afaik, "enabling" it is like changing 4bytes or so...
00:08:34*shuffle2 shrugs
00:08:34slothearn0x78, 0x78, 0x78, 0x78
00:08:34*gevaerts points out that this channel is about rockbox, not ps3
00:08:34slothearnsorrrrryyy again <3
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00:08:44shuffle2for the record: i don't care about BM, and i'm only here to forward people to efnet
00:11:23slothearnyar, joined
00:11:30slothearndunno why I keep doing that here
00:11:47AlexPlet's not discuss it, let's just keep on topic
00:11:54slothearnso Rockbox
00:11:57slothearnthat's some pretty good stuff
00:11:58soapgevaerts, so far so good.
00:12:10*slothearn disappears.
00:12:16soapboth "issues" appear fixed (fucked playback and hang on track change).
00:12:37gevaertsI'm actually surprised you didn't get freezes and other fun things
00:12:44gevaertsI mean all the time
00:12:45soapwant me to press "add this task" anyway so you can get "credit" for killing a filed bug? ;)
00:12:58gevaertsdon't bother
00:13:06gevaertsI'd have to mention it in the commit message and close it
00:13:16AlexPwe tend to ignore ones that are opened and fixed within revisions anyway
00:13:24AlexPIn that they don't go in the release notes
00:14:06soapahh, but this is an old, but not reported, bug.
00:14:10soapnot a new issue at all.
00:14:12CIA-81New commit by gevaerts (r28158): Make sure the dsp code has proper resample buffers even if HAVE_PITCHSCREEN is undefined. This makes playback work again without HAVE_PITCHSCREEN
00:14:21gevaertsIt's not!
00:14:30gevaertsThere is no bug involving HAVE_PITCHSCREEN!
00:14:44AlexPsoap: Yeah, maybe - but with my simplistic searching method it wouldn't have gone in the release notes anyway :)
00:15:08gevaertsIt wouldn't belong in the release notes anyway
00:15:14AlexPno indeed
00:15:23gevaertsundefined HAVE_PITCHSCREEN isn't a release configuration
00:16:11CIA-81r28158 build result: All green
00:16:14soapIt will be when someone forks "Rockbox Doom Edition"
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00:26:20wodzchanging decompression lib from zlib to tinf reduces png.rock from 47kB to 26kB :-)
00:26:35wodzon arm
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00:41:42shuffle2Define this if you have a PortalPlayer PP5024 */
00:41:43shuffle2#define CONFIG_CPU AS3525
00:42:08CIA-81New commit by Buschel (r28159): Implement lineout en-/disable for WM8975 and activate it for iPod nano 2G.
00:43:53CIA-81r28159 build result: All green
00:44:23soapis there a question there, shuffle2?
00:45:24shuffle2why does it say one thing and do another?
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00:47:35soapwhich config .h?
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00:48:18soapIt appears to be simply a misleadingly vague comment. The PP5024 in that case is on a AS3525 SoC.
00:49:13soapWhereas the Sansa e200v1 I happen to be looking at now is a AS3514 / PP5024?
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00:49:47gevaertsIt's neither misleading nor vague. It's just plain wrong :)
00:50:24gevaertssansac200v2.h was probably copied from sansac200.h and then adjusted where needed, leaving some comments untouched
00:50:33soapyea, now that I open it and look it's wrong.
00:51:42soapas there is no 5024 on the v2
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01:24:56soapgah, is there a wikipage showing all the edits in any given timeframe?
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01:41:49Gatz85shuffle2, You beat me lol
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01:45:56Gatz85so shuffle2 would you mind give me one more hand resetDatatoggle usb_drv_recv_blocking need to be set for there chip set could you help me with this opn as3525
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03:12:35AoEKillerhello I would like to know if it is possible to use regexp in WPS
03:13:09LloreanYou can't do anything other than what it explicitly says you can in the documentation.
03:13:21AoEKillerowww :(
03:14:16Torneuse a regex for *what*?
03:15:25AoEKillerwith folder name
03:17:24AoEKillerfor example %d(1) = Artsist_-_Album_Name-DATE-GROUP I want to regex the folder name to get the last arg.
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03:26:18shuffle2as far as i can see, it's impossible to arbitrarily set device address on the as3525 usb that correct?
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03:38:55lukeHi Guys!
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03:40:06Guest30334Having some trouble compiling in Cygwin. It cant seem to have/see arm-elf-eabi-gcc.
03:40:24Guest30334It's not in my path? How does that work.
03:40:28shuffle2use tools/
03:40:50shuffle2also i highly recommend using a VM if possible, instead of cygwin
03:41:19shuffle221:37 > use tools/ < option e, not a
03:41:41Guest30334rightio, i'll have a go, cheers.
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03:43:33Guest30334do i run that command from the dir i want to build in?
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03:45:12shuffle2no, it builds and installs the toolchain you need for compiling to arm
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03:47:05Guest30334right, got it running, two errors
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03:47:21Guest30334rockboxdev : No Downloader Tool Found!
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03:47:42Guest30334rockboxdev : Please install curl or wget and rerun the script
03:48:48shuffle2oook have you ever used linux/a package manager before? :)
03:49:17shuffle2i think from here on out it's self-explanitory, just google, etc
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03:50:54Guest30334right, thanks for that. I'm kinda stumbling through it.
03:52:19Guest30334is there a simple way I should be looking for?
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03:53:24clone4crwYou must not have installed wget when you installed cygwin
03:53:39clone4crwre-run the setup.exe and be sure to include it
03:55:58Guest30334you lil' ripper! got it! Cheers man!
03:56:37clone4crwhaha. anytime.
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04:21:35Guest30334I reinstalled wget, ran rockboxdev and download the files and still brings up that not in path error
04:24:46shuffle2at the end of rockboxdev it should tell you the path you need in your PATH, yes?
04:25:00shuffle2type echo $PATH and see if it's there
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04:28:42Guest30334it doesn't seem to be there, but it downloaded and seemed to install?
04:30:28clone4crwGuest30334: at the end of the output of, it said the paths that needed to be added to your PATH environmental variable
04:30:53Guest30334ah ok, might install it again. cheers.
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05:56:48factor looks liek some patches exist to enable line out and dock detect.
05:56:48factorbut dont work in the latest version of v2 firmware I have.
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06:52:26Synthboxone question
06:52:32Synthboxwhen i docked rockbox
06:52:44Synthboxcan i charge and still use it at the same time?
06:58:17krazykityes. the manual should tell you the keycombo for whatever device you have
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07:34:13Synthboxok e280 manual?
07:40:46krazykitplease stop spamming the channel.
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07:50:12EricthegreatHey you guys the rockbox file for tthe sansa clip is broken and auto updater can't download it either.
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07:51:00EricthegreatCould anyone send me it or fix the link?
07:58:32froggymanyou should be able to download the build from here:
07:58:59froggymanjust un-zip it to the "root" (right onto the device, not in a folder) of your player
07:59:32froggymando you have the bootloader already installed (have you used rockbox before)?
08:00:17Ericthegreatno but I was able to installl the bootloader
08:01:01froggymanokay... try unzipping the clip build onto it and see what happens when you reboot
08:01:51EricthegreatThank you I was able to download it from there.
08:10:58EricthegreatHmm says rockbox but file not found then it says insert usb cable
08:11:47EricthegreatI think that zip was just the firmware I need the rockbox files
08:13:56Ericthegreatnvm I got it
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08:39:42EricthegreatIs the sansa clip pp502x?
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09:06:40Dhraakelliangot a whitescreen on my FuzeV1 while transferring over USB
09:06:58DhraakellianUndefined instruction at 30054834
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09:15:19Dhraakellianand now it only seems to be mounting read-only
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09:15:30Dhraakellianat least, according to what sudo rm tells me
09:15:42Dhraakellianmount says rw
09:17:52Dhraakellian...although that appears to be on the PC's side, since it's happening w ith the OF too
09:26:03Dhraakellianor maybe it's something messed up with the filesystem
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11:22:55jyf1987hey , i have a question
11:23:25jyf1987is there any pmp which has a jz4755 cpu inside and come with 4.3 inch touch screen?
11:24:24jyf1987any guys ?
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11:42:07markunjyf1987: you didn't find anything with google?
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11:51:28jyf1987markun: couldnt find suitable ones
11:51:59jyf1987markun: i could find lots of device based on jz4755 but couldnt find a device that also come with touch screen
11:52:50yorickhmm...would my ipod video 5.5g 30GB work with the iflash mk 2 and a transcend CF 32GB 133x
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13:42:47AmecI am having trouble building the arm-eabi toolchain on Ubuntu Server 10.4.1. It gives the error "../../gcc-4.4.4/gcc/ipa-reference.c:992: internal compiler error: Illegal instruction". I have searched the wiki/forum and googled to no avail. I would be greatful if someone could provide me with some assistance.
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13:50:58ender`Amec: what CPU do you have on the server?
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13:51:29AmecSome old Celeron.
13:51:52ender`if you re-run the script, does the same error happen in the same place?
13:52:13Amecprocessor Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.40GHz
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13:53:07ender`strange, that's not that old
13:53:38wodzdoes compiler on this machine works at all?
13:54:07AmecI would assume so.
13:54:24Amec(I don't know, first thing I've really compiled. Only got it last week.)
13:55:00AmecAlthough, gcc does compile a lot before getting to ipa-reference.c
13:55:06AmecSo I think so...
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13:55:43wodzis the processor overcloced or something?
13:56:13Buscheldo we have a data sheet of the S5L8700 or 8701 ?
13:56:23ender`i thought about that, but if it was overclocked (or if there was bad ram), the error probably wouldn't happen in the same place
13:57:00wodzBuschel: you mean soc in nano2g? - no
13:57:09AmecI'm pretty sure it happens in the same place. I'll run it again to make sure.
13:57:50Buschelwodz: yes. I thought I read about somebody referring to the data sheets regarding clock configuration...
13:57:56ender`if it doesn't happen in the same place, run memtest for a few hours (
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13:58:53wodzBuschel: there is datasheet to some similar soc I think
13:59:02AmecHow does one check the current cpu freq? (I forget if I removed the overclock I ahd before)
13:59:16wodzcat /proc/cpuing
14:00:34Ameccat: /proc/cpuing: No such file or directory
14:00:38Ameccpuinfo: command not found
14:01:12wodzcat /proc/cpuinfo
14:01:23Amec... I knew that.
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14:02:08AmecHmm, it's overclocked to 3ghz...
14:02:23ender`that could be the reason
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14:15:16AmecHmm... It has gotten past "ipa-reference.c" this time. I guess it is the overclock.
14:18:45Buschelwodz: found it
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14:20:23AmecOh yay! It works. Thank you ender` and wodz. :)
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14:58:37bertrikBuschel, I do have one for the s5l8700x
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14:59:17bertrikthe soc in nano2g is very similar to that one
14:59:40bertrikthere are some errors in the document, unfortunately I don't have a list of them
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15:03:40Buschelbertrik: thanks, just reading exactly this one :)
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15:09:26Buscheljust wondering aobut the rockbox clock settings −− those look differet than what the spec says...
15:11:51bertrikthis could either be 1) a bug in rockbox 2) an error in the documentation 3) a difference between the s5l8700 and the soc in the nano 2g :)
15:12:32Buschelyep :)
15:12:38bertrikIIRC, the nano2g uses a clock crystal in the MHz range
15:12:53gevaertsOr 4) all of the above :)
15:13:21bertrikwhile the s5l8700 in the meizus uses a 32 kHz clock
15:16:02Buschelnano 2g uses something by 1.8 MHz?
15:16:30Buschelthen I would have calculated the clocks the right way :)
15:18:04bertrikIIRC, it uses some weird frequency but one that makes it easy to create an exact 44100 sample clock (IIRC)
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15:25:59Buschelthe s5l870x needs much more cpu cycles for audio decoding compared to my good old PP502x... the reason seems to be the slower memory access
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15:27:27amiconnThere is a reason why some SoC use a weird base clock. Another example is the 11289600 Hz for MCF52xx
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18:15:03AlcoholicHi everyone, could someone please tell me if the rockbox is compatible with Cowon S9?
18:15:25*gevaerts looks at the list on
18:15:29gevaertsIt's not
18:15:50Alcoholicgevaerts it doesn't appear in the list, that's why i'm asking.
18:15:58gevaertsThe list is complete
18:16:48AlcoholicThere's a stable,unstable and unusable lists which either have info about Cowon S9
18:17:08Alcoholicso how could you tell?
18:17:33gevaertstell what?
18:17:46AlcoholicThat it isn't.
18:18:26gevaertsEither the list is complete, or it's not. Either the S9 is on the list, or it's not
18:18:37gevaertsThe list is complete, and the S9 is not on the list
18:18:47gevaertsTherefore, I can tell that the S9 is not supported
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18:19:55AlcoholicOK, thanks for the poetic answer gevaerts :)
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18:41:13soapand by "not supported" he doesn't mean "runs, but we disavow all help and support" but "Incompatible hardware, no way to run it".
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18:42:09gevaertsYes, sorry. The old inaccurate wording strikes again :\
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19:00:05dfktbertrik, i just looked at FS #11577, and i thought this might be of interest to you, the öhmann crossfeed -
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19:00:42dfktpdf is in swedish, but it has a diagram on page 48. to me this is the most natural sounding crossfeed implementation i've heard so far
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19:02:56dfkthere's some more about it -
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19:04:42bertrikit looks a bit like the meier enhanced bass circuit
19:07:08dfkti have it on a headphone amp, implemented with two intensities, "low" and "high" - the low setting sounds like meier's to my ears, the high setting has more effect, and still sounds natural
19:11:50bertrikwhat I like about the meier circuit is that it's simple to emulate for rockbox (if I did it right ...) and the fact that it is designed by an actual audio guy
19:14:37dfktwell, mr. öhman is an audio guy too. :) - i want to try yours now. as i see it, i should try the newer crossfeed.patch you posted - and when i add the meier.diff to it, i get a different implementation?
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19:15:50dfktwait, i misread - i either use the crossfeed.patch from the original post, or the last one you posted, for two different approaches?
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19:17:13bertrikThe first patch allows you to change the delay in the original rockbox crossfeed implementation, the last patch just adds the meier crossfeed option. I should given those patches a different name probably.
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19:33:32*bertrik sees WPS problems on his clip+ again
19:36:33bertrikhow odd, enabling time stretch seems to have an effect on the drawing of the progress bar. With it enabled, I don't see the "outside" of the progress bar, only the filling part.
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19:52:02darknezz1Hey guys does rockbox work on ipod classic yet?
19:52:12darknezz1160gb silver classic
19:54:20bertrikassuming you are referring to a 6th generation ipod
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20:21:09yorick(11:52) < yorick> hmm...would my ipod video 5.5g 30GB work with the iflash mk 2 and a transcend CF 32GB 133x
20:25:36n1syorick: if it's not on the wiki page, it's likely that noone has tried that combo is
20:27:25yorick"works perfectly"
20:27:29yorickn1s: thank you :)
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20:28:47hansbaergood evening everybody
20:29:15hansbaersomebody willing and able to debug a h3x0-problem with me?
20:29:23likemindeadAfternoon, hansbaer. ;-)
20:29:37hansbaer;) ok, afternoon...
20:31:05n1shansbaer: what's the problem?
20:31:39hansbaerok, hereÂ`s the situation:
20:32:35hansbaerh320-harddisk died, had iriver firmware v1.29(E) installed, as well as an old version of rockbox (ca. 2007)
20:33:02hansbaernow i bought a cf-adapter as well as a 16gb cf-disk
20:33:09hansbaerplugged in
20:33:16hansbaerand got "ata error -80"
20:33:27hansbaerusb-bootloader-mode still works
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20:33:51hansbaerbooting up original firmware works but gives me "check hdd connection"
20:34:24n1sso if you boot the bootloader usb mode you can access the cf card?
20:34:30hansbaerif its a problem of the bootloader, how do i flash a new one now?
20:34:34hansbaeryes, thats correct
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20:35:00hansbaeri can copy any newly modified .hex file on the disk
20:35:08n1sso your card is formatted and rockbox is installed on it but that doesn't work?
20:35:18hansbaeryep, thats the case
20:35:42hansbaeri cannot do a firmware upgrade with the iriver-firmware booted, cause of the "check hdd connection" error
20:36:01n1shansbaer: if the OF cannot read the cf card you cannot update the bootloader as we only support the method of piggybacking on the OF flash image for the bootloader installation on h300
20:36:20hansbaeryes, that was my assumption...
20:36:23gevaertsWeren't there problems with some CF adapters?
20:36:27n1sif you also cannot start rockbox, even a flashing plugin will not help
20:36:48hansbaerso theres no other way as to get another harddisk and flash a new bootloader, then retry with the cf-card?
20:36:57n1sgevaerts: dunno, but the official bootloader for h300 doesn't have any of the CF related fixes in it
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20:37:34hansbaeri would have done a firmware-upgrade beforehand, but as the original hd died, i had no more opportunity to do that
20:38:43n1shansbaer: i think your only chance is ether getting a hd that works to update to an unofficial bootloader and hope that works or try to find a cf that works with the current bl
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20:39:53hansbaernls: i thought the firmware supports cf-cards, thats how it reads in the cfmodguide wikipage
20:39:53gevaertsThe easiest way I think is going to be to find someone with a disk you can borrow for a day
20:40:12hansbaer"Now that support is in SVN, new bootloaders will not require the hacks described below."
20:40:17funkHey guys, when compiling rockbox (make) I am getting: make: execvp: <source_dir>/tools/ Permission denied. I've read all the docs... any suggestions?
20:40:35n1shansbaer: only, no new official bootloaders were released
20:40:45n1sfor the h300
20:40:58hansbaernls: oh... wasnt up to date since 2007...
20:41:03n1sfunk: is it executable?
20:41:09wodzmay I kindly ask to test FS #11641?
20:41:49gevaertsfunk: your source tree seems to have lost executable bits. What sort of environment are you using?
20:42:17n1shansbaer: the current official bootloader for h300 was released july 2006
20:43:22funkgevaerts, ubuntu
20:43:30hansbaernls: allright, so i could test with the one linked linked in the wiki?
20:43:56funkn1s was right about executable permissions... now I get an svn error... strange
20:43:57gevaertsfunk: did you put the source on a FAT filesystem at some point?
20:44:07n1shansbaer: yes, it think that has been reported to work for people, no guarantees of course
20:46:14funkgevaerts, yes... yes i did :(
20:47:12hansbaernls: ok, so i`ll check on where to borrow a 1,8" hdd and flash the bootloader first
20:47:17hansbaerthanks a lot for the help
20:47:53hansbaeralthough i don`t know who the hell could have another 1,8" disk for that thingie..
20:48:39gevaertshansbaer: people with old enough ipods, or most other DAPs from that era
20:49:03gevaertsYou could try asking on the forums (or here...) if there are people in your area who can help
20:49:08hansbaergevaerts: ...that let me open their players and "borrow" the hd for a day? ;)
20:49:25wodzok simply check ebay - I bought 1.8" 20GB for ~5 euro recently
20:49:30hansbaeranyone from stuttgart/germany in here? ;)
20:49:32gevaertshansbaer: some of them aren't using the thing any more :)
20:49:43hansbaeryep, you could be right on that one
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20:50:36gevaertsfunk: the easiest solution is going to be to just get the sources again. Otherwise I think you'll be stuck fixing issues one by one for a long while...
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20:51:27funki thought so, thanks for the help
20:51:45wodzkugel: ping
20:52:06kugelwodz: pong
20:53:17wodzkugel: You have experience with biger code refactoring and git-svn. How git-svn treat history if you copy one file to some other location?
20:53:55kugelit normally keeps the history
20:54:22kugelit sees copied/moved files (even though it's wrong sometimes)
20:57:08gevaertswodz: anything specific to look for in FS #11641 ?
20:59:09funkgevaerts, it's working fine now. :)
21:00:54funkmake: *** No rule to make target `<source_dir>/build-dir/usbstack', needed by `<source_dir>/build-dir/firmware/usb.o'. Stop.
21:01:03funkhah any ideas now? :)
21:01:40funkah wait this MIGHT be an issue with something I did
21:02:50AlexPwodz: Sorry, I forgot. Compiling now
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21:03:50Maggux_finaly I got Rockbox installed on my SansaClip+
21:05:26wodzgevaerts: it works in sim (I tested a few sim targets with different pixelformats) but I don't have any target to test on real hardware
21:06:53AlexPwodz: Seems OK on H100 - do you have any particular fiules you'ld like testing?
21:07:34gevaertswodz: seems fine on ipod video
21:07:42wodzAlexP: png viewer doesn't work on greyscale at all with svn
21:07:52AlexPI know, I'm using the patch
21:08:17AlexPAre there any particular png files you would like testing, that use certain features or anything
21:08:20AlexPIs what I meant
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21:09:33wodzAlexP: try some broken files (there is archive of test files somewhere on libpng site) to see if decoder handles errors gracefully
21:10:38AlexPAny idea where? I'm happy to test but tbh I cba to hunt down test files through that website :)
21:11:03AlexPdon't worry, I found it after all :)
21:12:12soaptoo slow
21:14:01AlexPwodz: The corrupt ones are fine, it gives an error then moves on
21:14:02soapthough, that suite is really designed for viewing on a browser. Side-by-side comparison is, at a minimum, really needed to evaluate.
21:14:27wodzAlexP, gevaerts: I uploaded new version of the patch which changes decompression backend. If You can give it a try...
21:14:31AlexPwodz: For transparency though, it seems to show transparency as black but I think it'd feel better if transparency were nothing
21:14:54wodzAlexP: good catch
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21:15:32wodzAlexP: but what does it mean nothing? white or magic color or what?
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21:15:50AlexPwodz: I'm not sure how it works on greyscale actually
21:15:53AlexPamiconn: ?
21:15:59gevaertsBackground colour or pattern for transparency should be settable!
21:16:25AlexPI guess white as that is what it normally is for "clear"
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21:16:56wodzI'll look at this
21:17:37gevaertswodz: that doesn't seem to apply
21:17:57wodzone moment
21:18:02AlexPgevaerts: It did here
21:18:09AlexPIf you mean patching with v1
21:18:30AlexPhaving reverted v0 first
21:19:23gevaertsYes, I did that
21:20:06wodzhmm it apply cleanly for me
21:20:16AlexPwodz: v1 seems fine on H100
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21:20:42gevaertssvn stat shows no modified or extra files, and curl |patch -p1 complains loudly
21:21:27AlexPvery odd, it definitely applied fine here
21:22:07shuffle2anyone familiar with using usb devices in virtualbox? it seems i must plug my ipod into a new usb port on my host computer each time, or else virtualbox does not grab the newly inserted usb device from the host OS
21:22:23shuffle2and i've run out of usb ports :>
21:23:32AlexPIs that really Rockbox specific?
21:24:25wodzshuffle2: click with right button on usb icon after plugging device and select it to grab
21:27:23shuffle2wodz always get a failure when doing that
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21:39:54gevaertswodz: it's this $Id$ thing again
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21:44:15wodzso AlexP used git apply probably - that's why it worked
21:45:12gevaertsgit apply doesn't help. Using git locally might
21:45:33wodzgevaerts: that's what I mean
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21:46:18wodzthis $id$ thing manifests when patch removes some files
21:46:58Maggux_can rockbox remeber the last played pos from a file other the currend one?
21:47:15gevaertsMaggux_: look for "bookmarks" in the manual
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21:49:02bdrung_hi, can someone add me (BenjaminDrung) to the WikiUsersGroup? i want to add my numbers to
21:50:34gevaertsbdrung_: done. Welcome
21:50:42gevaertswodz: v1 seems to work for me too
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21:51:13bdrung_and thanks for developing rockbox.
21:51:31wodzgevaerts: thanks for testing
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21:52:54Magguxgevaerts: mm well, ive looked for something like the podcasthandling from the original Sansa-firmware. but thanks
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21:57:28AlexPwodz, gevaerts: I used patch, but yes, a git repo
21:58:07*gevaerts would like flyspray to use diffstat -p0
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22:08:44AoEKillerhello I would like to know if it is possible to use regexp in WPS
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22:10:39bdrung_i nearly bricked my new sansa clip+. it didn't boot. then i discovered in the sandisk manual that it can be reset by holding the power button for over 20 second. after doing that, it booted again. where should i add this information to
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22:12:53AlexPAoEKiller: no
22:13:29Magguxif I mess up the .rockbox folder on my SansaClip+, can I still boot the original Firmware?
22:13:50AlexPAoEKiller: It hasn't changed since you asked not long ago
22:13:54bertrikMaggux, yes
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22:14:22wodzAlexP: Current implementation of png decoder simply does not support alpha channel (ignores it). Alpha support is not mandatory for decoder to be png 1.1 compilant
22:14:44AlexPah, OK
22:15:05wodzit shouldn't be very hard to implement
22:15:13AlexPso it shows black on colour targets too?
22:16:21AlexPbdrung_: You didn't nearly brick it, it just hung
22:16:31AlexPThe hold power to force power off is well known
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22:17:20wodzAlexP: png stores intensities values (r,g,b for example) and alpha separately. Intensities are non-premultiplied.
22:17:22bdrung_AlexP: ok. it would be nice to have this information somewhere on the wiki page.
22:18:11AlexPSure, feel free to add it - but it does nothing about bricking. Perhaps just mention "Holding power for 30 seconds (or more) forces a hardware poweroff"
22:18:19dfktbertrik, meier crossfeed sound very nice :)
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22:19:16wodzhonestly I am not conviced about adding alpha support to png decoder in rb
22:20:03AlexPWhy not?
22:22:23wodzIf we want to use transparency we will have to have knowledge about image it is to be put on. Decoder simply doesn't know where we will put it - this defined by drawing function
22:23:02wodzwe can add transparency with single background colour however
22:23:32AlexPWon't the png viewer just use the set background colour? Or it could just force to white
22:24:00AlexPI don't think it makes sense to show it over the backdrop
22:24:13AlexPWhat does it do now, and what does jpg viewer do?
22:24:30wodzjpg doesn't have alpha channel
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22:25:01AlexPI know, but unless the image is exactly the same ratio as the display, it must show someting round it
22:25:13gevaertsJust assume a fixed colour. Make that configurable if you want to be fancy, but more isn't needed
22:25:26AlexPI agree
22:27:07bdrung_AlexP: i added a " Hanging, non-responding player" section to
22:28:29AlexPbdrung_: Is that true for all players on that page?
22:30:59bdrung_AlexP: good question. it applies to the clip+. let's check the other player.
22:31:24AlexPIt does for e200/c200 IIRC
22:31:31AlexPBut don't quote me on that :)
22:32:08bdrung_AlexP: and to clip
22:34:28bdrung_AlexP: fuze 10 secs, clip 15 secs, clip+ 20 secs, e200 15 secs
22:34:47gevaerts"30 seconds" :)
22:35:00AlexPbdrung_: The time varies on different players of the same model, so just be safe and say 30 s or so :)
22:35:08AlexPbdrung_: But cool, thanks for checking
22:35:16gevaertsPeople don't use a stopwatch for this, so they release too fast, and then come back here to complain that it didn't work
22:35:54gevaertsSometimes we feel generous and say a minute :)
22:35:59bdrung_AlexP: 20 secs seems enough
22:36:11AlexPnot always
22:36:20AlexPThere have been people around where it takes more
22:36:39AlexPbut anyway, it is better to say longer than shorter as gevaerts says
22:36:50AlexPIf it resets before the time is up, all well and good
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22:37:11gevaertsAnyway, we usually add "up to"
22:37:45bdrung_AlexP: can you confirm that it works for e200? the manual for e200 doesn't say something about reset.
22:38:04AlexPIt does for v1, I guess for v2 but I don't have one
22:38:20AlexPand v1 isn't on that page, so I can't really :)
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22:42:37bdrung_AlexP: i can't confirm it for m200.
22:43:33bdrung_AlexP: should i add "This may not work on m200 and e200"?
22:44:20AlexPI pretty sure it does (on e200 at least), but maybe just "unconfirmed on xxx"
22:44:50bdrung_AlexP: or only "unconfirmed on m200"?
22:45:35bdrung_AlexP: you have version v1. all player introduces later support it.
22:45:41AlexPprobably best e200 too, I might be wrong :)
22:49:39bdrung_AlexP: ok, done:
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23:30:01Buschelanyone else with a nano2g experiences humming of the lcd display?
23:30:31Buschelthis can be avoided when lowering the voltage supply for the lcd.
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23:41:13CIA-81New commit by Buschel (r28161): Disable clickwheel power supply when hold button is active for iPod nano 2G.
23:42:38CIA-81New commit by Buschel (r28162): Add some more information to iPod nano 2G debug screen.
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23:46:07CIA-81New commit by Buschel (r28164): Reduce LCD voltage supply to 2500 mV to avoid humming noise of nano 2G.
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