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| 00:22:22 | JdGordon | gevaerts: (incase you didnt figure it out overnight).. the clipv1 fails to build the db with the hsvc pack. keeps saying "reboot to apply" |
| 00:22:35 | gevaerts | ah, as I thought |
| 00:22:54 | JdGordon | it looks like if you initialise it before adding those files an update will work |
| 00:23:29 | pixelma | gevaerts: you are correct, main stack usage is 90% on my M5 |
| 00:23:40 | gevaerts | pixelma: wow, that's a lot... |
| 00:23:51 | gevaerts | That patch doubled the stack |
| 00:24:05 | pixelma | that's without the patch |
| 00:24:13 | gevaerts | ah, right |
| 00:24:17 | pixelma | I just enabled the debug option |
| 00:25:57 | pixelma | and got a hang now while skipping back, nothing to help debugging though :\ |
| 00:28:53 | gevaerts | pixelma: are you using voice? |
| 00:30:36 | pixelma | currently I'm not. All voice options are turned off, voice files are present though |
| 00:31:05 | JdGordon | "23:10gevaertsAnother thing you could try is adding -DBUFFER_ALLOC_DEBUG to EXTRA_DEFINES in the makefile, to see if something overflows a buffer_alloc()ed buffer" <- that almost ertainly wont show up anything from the skin buffer, it is of course possible that internally its buffer is getting mangled whcih would explain things, but it is very unlikely the whole thing is being overrun |
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| 00:32:08 | gevaerts | JdGordon: yes, I know, but I don't know much else to check |
| 00:33:29 | gevaerts | pixelma: ok. In that case I think this isn't related to possible stack overflows. The bit right below the main stack on m5 is used for voice (speex to be precise), so if you're not using that, it can't really hurt if it gets overwritten. |
| 00:33:51 | gevaerts | Not that the stack overflowing without a stkov panic is *that* likely in the first place... |
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| 00:36:04 | clone4crw | I'm trying to build the manual, and i'm getting "file 'marvosym.stl' not found". |
| 00:36:38 | clone4crw | i mean "marvosym.sty" |
| 00:37:06 | gevaerts | clone4crw: here that's in package texlive-fonts-recommended |
| 00:37:46 | pixelma | what OS do you use to compile? |
| 00:38:07 | clone4crw | Ubuntu 10.04 |
| 00:38:14 | clone4crw | I'm installing the package now |
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| 00:38:24 | gevaerts | JdGordon: since you were the one who touched this code last (more than three years ago...), do you have opinions on FS #11644 ? |
| 00:39:24 | JdGordon | if the playlist ended where does it resume from? |
| 00:39:39 | gevaerts | the playlist control file |
| 00:39:53 | gevaerts | It just doesn't get restarted |
| 00:40:46 | gevaerts | It works, I'm just not sure if I'm not overlooking something |
| 00:40:46 | JdGordon | dunno... if it works its prob ok :p |
| 00:41:13 | * | gevaerts doesn't like rebooting to have noticeable effects :) |
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| 00:42:55 | clone4crw | gevaerts: yep, that worked. thanks! |
| 00:43:07 | JdGordon | clipv1 doesnt work with large db's at all i think |
| 00:43:20 | * | JdGordon needs to get ready for work :( |
| 00:43:30 | gevaerts | JdGordon: let's disable tagcache on the clip :) |
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| 00:49:28 | clone4crw | Is there a better way to get a screenshot of a sim than just pressing PrntScr and cropping it? |
| 00:49:51 | pixelma | gah, playlist viewer "live moving" is now off by one *again*, though somewhat differently to what I remember |
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| 00:52:26 | JdGordon | gevaerts: I'm pretty sure there is a better way :) |
| 00:52:39 | JdGordon | like kicking people with so many files |
| 00:53:14 | pixelma | it actually looks like just the display of the selection bar is off by one now (one track below the moving one), icon is correct |
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| 03:00:27 | [AndrewR] | I know rockbox doesn't support malloc, but I thought I read somewhere there are helper functions that emulate it, is that true and can I use it in my plugin? |
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| 03:09:28 | JdGordon| | yes |
| 03:10:13 | JdGordon| | best is to obviously not need it though... are you porting code or writing from scratch? |
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| 03:14:04 | ed-209 | hello, how do I tell which version of rockbox I have? |
| 03:14:11 | ed-209 | on my player |
| 03:15:44 | ed-209 | it says r27008-100621 |
| 03:15:50 | ed-209 | is this 3.6 ? |
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| 03:18:50 | ed-209 | hello |
| 03:18:59 | krazykit | no, it's r27008 |
| 03:19:22 | ed-209 | so it's older than 3.6 ? |
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| 03:19:51 | ed-209 | if it is I'll install 3.6 |
| 03:19:56 | krazykit | it's newer |
| 03:20:11 | ed-209 | oh damn. |
| 03:20:14 | Llorean | 3.6 is quite old at this point. |
| 03:20:35 | ed-209 | would you recommend a recent build over the one I have? |
| 03:20:52 | Llorean | Are you having problems with your current build? Is there some new feature you want? |
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| 03:21:20 | ed-209 | often the track/artist names don't change for each song |
| 03:21:25 | [AndrewR] | JbGordon|: I'm writing from scratch, so I can do without it |
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| 03:21:47 | ed-209 | and there are some features I would absolutely love but I don't think anyone is doing them |
| 03:21:48 | Llorean | ed-209: If you're experiencing problems, it may be wise to back up your old build and install a current one to see if it improves things, then. |
| 03:21:48 | [AndrewR] | I can just give some reasonably large number for my arrays |
| 03:22:11 | Llorean | [AndrewR]: Are you writing a plugin? |
| 03:22:18 | [AndrewR] | I am |
| 03:22:38 | [AndrewR] | I'm writing a plugin to track workouts |
| 03:23:01 | [AndrewR] | I intend to use my sansa while doing the workout and follow what exercises it tells me / record what I do |
| 03:23:10 | Llorean | The plugin buffer is a fixed size (on a per-target basis, so it may not be the same size on all players, but will always be the same on the same model) and since that memory is reserved for it anyway as long as you're not going to extend beyond its size you may as well use as much of the plugin buffer as you want. |
| 03:23:39 | [AndrewR] | I read the buffer is 512k, that should be plenty |
| 03:24:13 | [AndrewR] | avoiding malloc sounds like a good idea |
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| 03:28:51 | JdGordon| | the plugin buffer is 512K but that includes the space where the actual .rock is loaded so you will get less than that |
| 03:29:09 | JdGordon| | but of course if that isnt enough you can always stop playback and get the full RAM avilable |
| 03:29:22 | JdGordon| | or nearly all of it anyway |
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| 04:51:21 | clone4crw | I think the manuals should contain info on how to use simulators. I'm trying to use the Cowon D2 one with no luck at all |
| 04:51:46 | JdGordon| | feel free to submit a patch |
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| 04:53:25 | clone4crw | Well first I kind of need to know how to use the darn thing. :p |
| 04:53:42 | clone4crw | But yeah, I'd be willing to do that. |
| 04:54:20 | clone4crw | If it seems worthwhile to the others around here |
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| 05:23:18 | JdGordon| | why are you using the sim? there is almost no reason now (or should be) unless you are developing |
| 05:23:25 | JdGordon| | code/plugins etc |
| 05:25:15 | clone4crw | and that's what I'm doing |
| 05:25:30 | JdGordon| | ah well then :) |
| 05:25:35 | clone4crw | it took me randomly clicking until I figured out the virtual d-pad |
| 05:25:46 | clone4crw | I think it should be documented SOMEWHERE |
| 05:25:54 | JdGordon| | that is in the manual... why are you using the d2 sim though? |
| 05:26:00 | clone4crw | Yeah, maybe not the manual |
| 05:26:16 | clone4crw | taking screenies for the manual for the resistor calculator |
| 05:26:37 | JdGordon| | the sim tries to resemble the UI as much as possible, so the virtual dpad is the same on the sim and target |
| 05:26:47 | clone4crw | I figured |
| 05:26:56 | JdGordon| | it shouldnt be enabled by default though |
| 05:27:09 | JdGordon| | *that* is bloody stupid (and a fun point to argue all day :p ) |
| 05:27:54 | clone4crw | what? the d-pad? if not that then what would you use? |
| 05:28:20 | JdGordon| | stylus mode |
| 05:28:26 | JdGordon| | i.e how you;d expect it to work |
| 05:29:04 | clone4crw | yeah, it really is. I mean, sure, i get that its emulating the device as close as possible, but c'mon, at least ALSO map it to the numpad buttons |
| 05:29:59 | clone4crw | I think that would be an even better solution. |
| 05:30:25 | JdGordon| | I thought the numpad arrows worked? |
| 05:31:24 | clone4crw | Nope. that's why I ended up randomly clicking all the sim's screen |
| 05:32:25 | JdGordon| | for future reference.. the d2 and ipod video have the same screen so you could just use that instead |
| 05:33:17 | clone4crw | I've been figuring that out with a lot of players the hard way. Stupid me. :p |
| 05:33:35 | clone4crw | Oh well. |
| 05:33:51 | JdGordon| | I tihnk there is a wiki page with that listed (and if not, there should be) |
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| 05:36:43 | clone4crw | http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/UiSimulator Yeah, there is. It's not that I didn't look, its more that it, like a lot of useful pages, is buried and quite a pain to find. |
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| 05:55:55 | ddalton | hey guys, I've just pulled my old iriver out which has the rb boot loader installed onto it. |
| 05:56:07 | ddalton | the partition table seems screwed up and i get a message like |
| 05:56:20 | ddalton | could not find partition insert usb cable now and fix it... |
| 05:56:43 | ddalton | i created a fat 32 partition on the device is this sufficient, or do I need to use a different partition type? |
| 05:56:52 | ddalton | the iriver fw boots find, should I just try flashing again? |
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| 06:03:14 | clone4crw | I don't think RB supports Fat32 |
| 06:03:20 | Llorean | Rockbox supports FAT32 just fine. |
| 06:03:27 | clone4crw | oh. ok. |
| 06:03:34 | Llorean | Please, be careful before spreading information. |
| 06:03:47 | clone4crw | sorry. my bad. |
| 06:05:47 | ddalton | no worries |
| 06:06:02 | clone4crw | it's getting too late for me :/ |
| 06:06:10 | ddalton | Llorean: so mkfs.vfat /dev/partition should be sufficient? |
| 06:07:46 | Llorean | ddalton: Is it the original hard disk? |
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| 06:16:32 | ddalton | Llorean: yep |
| 06:16:59 | ddalton | could be damaged, so im trying to work out if that's the case, though as i said iriver fw boots fine |
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| 06:17:20 | Llorean | The iRiver firmware boots from flash. Does the iRiver firmware actually play music over time fine? |
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| 06:18:45 | ddalton | mmm i better check that one |
| 06:18:50 | ddalton | because the disk is blank |
| 06:19:03 | ddalton | ill check now |
| 06:19:13 | ddalton | though i can access the disk fine with my linux machine i thnk |
| 06:24:23 | ddalton | mmmm im awaiting a sighty as im blind, though if that works what should i do from there? |
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| 06:27:02 | ddalton | Llorean: alright it sayus " 0 songs 0 folders, when I created a folder called 'music' and place an mp3 file in it... |
| 06:27:07 | Llorean | Well, if it just randomly stopped working and it was working before and you made no software changes, it's basically certainly hardware failure |
| 06:27:10 | ddalton | I suppose that means there is an issue with the hdd? |
| 06:27:13 | Llorean | Yeah |
| 06:27:22 | ddalton | though I can't understand why it works on the computer |
| 06:28:27 | ddalton | does that sound like the hdd is the problem to u considering iriver fw is saying no folders or songs, but I still don't get why the computer can read and write to the disk...? |
| 06:30:50 | Llorean | It sounds like some form of hardware failure, as I said. |
| 06:32:22 | ddalton | i agree, but odd the computer reads/writes to the disk perfectly fine. |
| 06:35:53 | Llorean | You can keep saying that, but it's not going to change the current situation, which is that it doesn't work in the OF or in Rockbox. Even if there were a software solution, it would be impossible to flash a new bootloader to implement it since the disk can't be read. |
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| 06:39:21 | ddalton | yes, but my point is how can it be hardware related |
| 06:39:58 | Llorean | It doesn't matter. |
| 06:40:20 | Llorean | If it were software related, it would be unsolvable as you can't change the software in the player's current state. |
| 06:40:30 | ddalton | so there is no possibility the iriver fw could be buggy? |
| 06:40:37 | Llorean | Why does it matter? |
| 06:40:37 | * | JdGordon| was going to say usb doesnt need the harddisk to work, but then remembered the h300 isnt software usb |
| 06:40:37 | | Quit saratoga_ (Quit: Page closed) |
| 06:41:27 | Llorean | JdGordon|: The H100/H300 access the disk differently for USB than for the firmware right? Being hardware USB, the USB hardware could work, but something in the pathways that the firmware need to access the disk could be burnt out / damaged? |
| 06:41:42 | JdGordon| | yeah |
| 06:42:13 | JdGordon| | in theory the OTG port would be usable here, but it still needs code to make that work which hasnt been done :) |
| 06:42:15 | Llorean | ddalton: The point is - if you can't fix the problem, you don't need to keep asking questions. Either it's software and thus unfixable without JTAG, or hardware and thus unfixable without identifying what's broken, which may not be replaceable. |
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| 06:48:24 | ddalton | ok thanks |
| 06:48:43 | ddalton | is the compact flash an option here? |
| 06:49:03 | Llorean | Since the drive works from the computer, it's *probably* not the drive but some intermediate hardware. |
| 06:49:09 | Llorean | Which means, most likely, the player is toast. |
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| 07:04:49 | ddalton | alright fair enough then thnx:) |
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| 08:02:57 | Llorean | JdGordon|: I don't know what sort of technical reason would limit the database like that? I mean, wouldn't it be a matter of just "remembering" the search chain that was used? I mean, there's no guarantee that repeating the same search will get you the same list of files, but other than that... |
| 08:03:33 | JdGordon| | remembering the path is the technical problem, IIUC it isnt excatly trivial |
| 08:03:47 | JdGordon| | that is a very big beef I have with the database |
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| 08:06:32 | JdGordon| | also you arnt guarenteed to get the same files in the filebrowser either |
| 08:07:59 | Llorean | This is true |
| 08:08:31 | uberushaximus | after installing r28177-100926 today I get a SD panic whenever USB is plugged in (not charging) on my clip v1, I was using a current build yesterday as well and I didn't have any issues, now OF won't even show up in MSC mode |
| 08:10:54 | uberushaximus | The exact error is "SD Xfer read err:0x8 Disk 0" |
| 08:19:27 | factor | looks like the Sansa is a arm chipset, had to download the deb package from an outside source, would have thought arm toolchain would be a default package |
| 08:20:48 | uberushaximus | yeah that is a little strange since debian has an arm port |
| 08:21:08 | Llorean | factor: Generally we build rockbox with specific compiler revisions so the pre-available cross compilers generally aren't recommended. |
| 08:21:24 | Llorean | Different revisions of GCC can introduce strange errors or behaviors. |
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| 08:25:10 | factor | Llorean, ok |
| 08:25:28 | factor | will try compiling it with a default one just to test it |
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| 08:26:56 | factor | Llorean, do you guys normal symlink the names of the compiler |
| 08:27:13 | factor | arm-elf-gcc = arm-linux-gcc |
| 08:27:26 | JdGordon| | the buildscripts require the compiler we want you to use |
| 08:27:27 | Llorean | I thought there were instructions in the wiki. |
| 08:27:31 | Llorean | not to mention rockboxdev.sh |
| 08:27:44 | factor | would be cool for the configure script to look for both compiler names |
| 08:28:13 | JdGordon| | why? we dont support any builds not built with the compiler we require |
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| 09:18:09 | jarda-wien | hello I recently installed the sansa clip+ port and have a major problem with the clock drifting minutes/hour which make hours after several days |
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| 09:36:57 | Heis | hello! i just 5 minutes ago received my sansa fuze. how do i know if it's a v1 or a v2? |
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| 09:41:30 | dfkt | by checking which firware version it runs 01.xx.xx or 02.xx.xx |
| 09:42:43 | Heis | so i guess i need a firmware tool from sandisk? |
| 09:42:57 | dfkt | no, you just look in the system menu of the player |
| 09:43:14 | Heis | cool |
| 09:44:17 | Heis | v02.03.33. that must be v2 |
| 09:45:35 | Heis | thanks, more questions might come as i read up on some forums. |
| 09:47:20 | pixelma | I'd suggest reading our manual too (or even first) |
| 09:49:02 | Heis | and the SansaAMS wiki? (that's where i started) |
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| 10:12:10 | Heis | any tips on good, functional themes? |
| 10:13:15 | Heis | i just put fuzerock+ on it |
| 10:25:41 | Heis | yay! This was easier than I thought. Thanks for the help :) |
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| 10:44:26 | keenerd | I would like to fix a regression, but am not sure where in the code to look. At some point the line-wrapping algo of the text viewer was changed. It used to be O(1), now it is O(n). |
| 10:44:51 | keenerd | Basically, the further you get in a text file the longer it takes to load. |
| 10:45:31 | keenerd | Several minutes on a lower end device with a multi-meg text file. |
| 10:45:56 | Llorean | Pick an arbitrarily old build, see if it demonstrates the problem, repeat until you find one that doesn't, then binary search between it and the earliest known "bad" build then see what SVN commit caused the problem? |
| 10:46:32 | Llorean | Or have you already narrowed down to a single commit, and just can't figure out which change within it caused the problem? |
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| 10:46:51 | keenerd | The first one. |
| 10:47:17 | keenerd | Anything to narrow the search would be helpful. E.g., so-and-so has done most of the work on that module. |
| 10:47:34 | Llorean | You can just look at the SVN history for the plugin and see when changes happened to it. |
| 10:48:00 | keenerd | There are a lot. And it was many months, maybe a year ago. |
| 10:48:29 | Llorean | Then what are you looking for? "So and so does most of the work" is answered to you by the SVN log for the plugin anyway. |
| 10:49:20 | * | keenerd shrugs. "A single question can save weeks of experimentation." |
| 10:49:31 | Llorean | Yes, but you need to have a question to ask, first. |
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| 10:51:43 | pixelma | keenerd: are you saying that the text viewer used to take the width of "n" as the average character width and now it is taking the width of "1"? Did you already find it in the code? (otherwise I'm also not sure what you are asking) |
| 10:51:58 | gevaerts | keenerd: http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi/trunk/apps/plugins/text_viewer/?view=log may help |
| 10:52:08 | gevaerts | pixelma: no, he means it's a lot slower now :) |
| 10:52:31 | gevaerts | O(1) means "constant time", O(n) means "time proportional with amount of data" |
| 10:52:34 | Llorean | pixelma: O(1) meaning that it took a constant time before, with O(n) meaning the time it takes is now a function of n (presumably referring to how far down you are in the file) |
| 10:52:38 | keenerd | gevaerts: Thank you. |
| 10:52:46 | pixelma | I see |
| 10:52:53 | * | Llorean thought he referred keenerd to the SVN history for it already |
| 10:53:05 | Llorean | keenerd: You strongly implied you'd already read it when you said "there are a lot" |
| 10:53:27 | keenerd | Llorean: Yeah, but he is trying :-) |
| 10:53:55 | Llorean | keenerd: Anyway, it'll only take a few hours of binary searching *at most* to track down the individual revision. |
| 10:54:06 | Llorean | Especially if you know the general time frame of "about a year ago" to start with. |
| 10:56:24 | pixelma | it seemed more inaccurate to me lately too as in "a greater part of a word is missing with the font I use" lately but I just know there were a lot of changes a few months ago and I don't use the viewer regularly enough to be sure if it really changed or if it was just a coincidence with the one text I was viewing when noticing |
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| 11:08:30 | Heis | hmm, i can't find the button for database update. |
| 11:09:04 | Heis | sorry, i found it.. |
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| 13:22:48 | wodz | I have a questions - considering I have uint16_t array[] filled with values in big endian uint16_t values. If I do a = *(uint16_t *)array; I'll get value in host or be order? |
| 13:23:41 | Zagor | the order of the data never changes |
| 13:23:45 | wodz | argh uint8_t array[] |
| 13:24:21 | wodz | so a is BE than right? |
| 13:24:31 | LinusN | yes |
| 13:25:51 | wodz | now if I write a>>8 what do I get? |
| 13:26:06 | wodz | array[0] or array[1] ? |
| 13:26:27 | Zagor | what type is a? |
| 13:26:35 | LinusN | wodz: that depends on the endianness of the CPU |
| 13:26:37 | wodz | uint16_t |
| 13:27:03 | Zagor | wodz: you'll the the first byte |
| 13:27:17 | wodz | heh |
| 13:27:36 | Zagor | actually, that's wrong. Linus is right. |
| 13:28:30 | wodz | so to free my mind from endianness I have to do a = betoh16(*(uint16_t *)array) ? |
| 13:28:49 | Zagor | yes |
| 13:28:53 | wodz | good |
| 13:28:59 | wodz | thx |
| 13:30:01 | Zagor | or use ntohs() which is more portable |
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| 13:37:31 | Alcoholic | Hi how can I tell if my 4 GB Sansa Clip is v1 or v2? all I know is the Firmware version is: v01.01.29F |
| 13:38:46 | gevaerts | That's a v1 |
| 13:39:09 | Alcoholic | Thank you :) |
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| 13:44:31 | barfster | svn co WHAT? |
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| 13:47:33 | barfster | svn co http://svn.rockbox.org/ ? |
| 13:48:10 | gevaerts | barfster: it may help if you say what you want to do |
| 13:48:19 | barfster | download r28177 |
| 13:48:36 | barfster | I would like to checkout r28177 |
| 13:48:43 | gevaerts | svn co svn://svn.rockbox.org/rockbox/trunk rockbox |
| 13:48:44 | barfster | from the rockbox repo |
| 13:49:15 | gevaerts | that last "rockbox" being the local directory where it will be put |
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| 13:51:15 | lb10 | hello all |
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| 13:53:25 | barfster | gevaerts: and now I would like to apply a patch |
| 13:53:45 | barfster | gevaerts: Thanks it all donwnloaded |
| 13:53:51 | barfster | And now I would like to apply a patch |
| 13:55:24 | gevaerts | You're in luck! We have a wiki page about that: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/WorkingWithPatches |
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| 14:01:06 | lb10 | anyone here care to help me with a problem i'm having with ipodpatcher? |
| 14:02:11 | gevaerts | lb10: only if you say what the problem is! |
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| 14:04:38 | lb10 | i run ipodpatcher to install iloader on my 2g ipod nano and everytime I run ipodpatcher it gives me this message [ERR] *** ipodpatcher does not support the 2nd Generation Nano! |
| 14:05:14 | gevaerts | Looks like you have an old ipodpatcher then |
| 14:05:55 | gevaerts | hm |
| 14:06:20 | gevaerts | maybe not |
| 14:06:25 | TheSeven | you need at least ipodpatcher 5.0 |
| 14:06:39 | TheSeven | I already had someone with a v4 patcher some days ago |
| 14:06:47 | TheSeven | so there must be an old link floating around somewhere |
| 14:06:59 | gevaerts | TheSeven: that string still appears in the current source |
| 14:07:08 | lb10 | thx |
| 14:07:31 | TheSeven | if your patcher version is less than 5.0, try one from http://download.rockbox.org/bootloader/ipod/ipodpatcher/ instead |
| 14:07:33 | gevaerts | But yes, checking the version is a good first step :) |
| 14:07:57 | barfster | How can I check out r28156? |
| 14:08:15 | lb10 | prog says ipodpatcher 4.0 with v3.0 bootloaders (v1.0 for 2nd Gen Nano |
| 14:08:30 | gevaerts | barfster: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/UsingSVN |
| 14:09:35 | gevaerts | lb10: try a newer one first then |
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| 14:13:40 | lb10 | just tried new patcher still gives same error |
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| 14:14:54 | barfster | new patcher? |
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| 14:14:59 | barfster | Why not use patch < ? |
| 14:18:40 | gevaerts | Because that's not what this is about |
| 14:20:52 | lb10 | could there be a bug in the prog? |
| 14:21:18 | gevaerts | yes |
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| 14:22:50 | barfster | I have now patched r28156, how do I compile it? |
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| 14:23:12 | barfster | I would like to compile it for ipod photo |
| 14:23:17 | barfster | aka ipco |
| 14:24:03 | gevaerts | lb10, TheSeven: http://www.rockbox.org/irc/log-20091021#16:33:11 has some info. Apparently there's indeed a bug in ipodpatcher, linuxstb identified it and fixed it, but apparently he never committed the fix... |
| 14:24:27 | gevaerts | barfster: start from http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/DevelopmentGuide |
| 14:25:49 | lb10 | thx |
| 14:26:22 | gevaerts | lb10: if that's correct, you're probably using a rather old version of the Apple firmware on the ipod. Is that right? |
| 14:26:33 | gevaerts | If not, there's *another* bug... |
| 14:27:24 | lb10 | it was updated recently |
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| 14:28:45 | gevaerts | Or maybe the idea that this is only for old firmware is wrong |
| 14:30:18 | barfster | So as soon as rockboxdev.sh has run I should be able to configure? |
| 14:30:18 | gevaerts | lb10: which operating system are you using? |
| 14:30:37 | lb10 | ubuntu lucid |
| 14:31:24 | gevaerts | 32bit or 64bit? |
| 14:31:32 | lb10 | 32 |
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| 14:38:34 | gevaerts | lb10: try gevaerts/ipodpatcher">http://www.evonet.be/~gevaerts/ipodpatcher |
| 14:40:13 | gevaerts | TheSeven: it looks like the block starting at line 401 in ipodpatcher/main.c can just go. Opinions? |
| 14:41:33 | lb10 | doesn't give the error thx alot |
| 14:48:56 | barfster | I tried to run rockboxdev.sh |
| 14:49:05 | barfster | but it gave me errors after a while |
| 14:49:42 | barfster | libtool: compile: gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../../binutils-2.20.1/bfd -I. -I../../binutils-2.20.1/bfd -I../../binutils-2.20.1/bfd/../include -I./../intl -DBINDIR=\"/usr/local/bin\" -W -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Werror -U_FORTIFY_SOURCE -MT elf32-arm.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/elf32-arm.Tpo -c ../../binutils-2.20.1/bfd/elf32-arm.c -o elf32-arm.o |
| 14:49:50 | barfster | last line that run before errros |
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| 14:52:55 | barfster | http://pastie.org/1184195 |
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| 14:53:55 | JdGordon | does anyone have any plans to implement the buffer_borrow() thing we talked about yesterday? |
| 14:54:01 | TheSeven | gevaerts: I wonder why that ever worked... |
| 14:54:15 | JdGordon | I might just work on it on the plane tomorow night if noone else wants to |
| 14:55:15 | gevaerts | JdGordon: feel free, and good luck with keeping your sanity :) |
| 14:55:32 | JdGordon | no need to worry about that |
| 14:57:32 | barfster | running the script rockboxdev.sh on MacOS X gave me this: http://pastie.org/1184195 anything more needed for anyone to look at why? |
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| 15:00:58 | gevaerts | barfster: there are some issues with building the toolchains on OS X. Have a look at http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11643 |
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| 15:06:14 | barfster | Thanks |
| 15:06:23 | barfster | patch applied |
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| 15:34:17 | barfster | Hmm, I ran rockboxdev.sh without errors |
| 15:34:34 | barfster | however which arm-elf-gcc returns nothing |
| 15:37:13 | barfster | I ran rockbox dev with the e option arm-eabi |
| 15:39:37 | AlexP | Does which show commands not in $PATH, and did you add the compiler directory to $PATH as rockboxdev.sh tells you? |
| 15:40:11 | barfster | Hmm, it told me to add: /usr/local/bin |
| 15:40:18 | barfster | but when I did echo $PATH it was already in there |
| 15:40:20 | AlexP | that should do it then |
| 15:40:21 | gevaerts | e doesn't build arm-elf-gcc |
| 15:40:34 | barfster | Aha |
| 15:40:35 | gevaerts | It builds arm-elf-eabi-gcc |
| 15:41:07 | barfster | # which arm-elf-eabi-gcc |
| 15:41:07 | barfster | /usr/local/bin/arm-elf-eabi-gcc |
| 15:41:49 | barfster | Then point 4 on this page: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/HowToCompile lacks which arm-elf-eabi-gcc |
| 15:42:07 | AlexP | It's a wiki :) |
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| 16:47:57 | keenerd | Llorean: There is no way bisecting a year+ old regression is going to take "a few hours". I don't know what sort of supercomputer you have, but it takes me 10 minutes to checkout and 20 minutes to build. But because of the (relatively) vast spans of time involved, gcc and binutils need to be rebuilt. |
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| 16:49:14 | keenerd | So that adds an hour to things. And of course is the ever present fear that I'll be crossing over that invisible line when the bootloader was overhauled, bricking my device. (Guess it is time to get the simulator working.) |
| 16:49:26 | gevaerts | keenerd: we've used *two* gcc/binutils combinations in that time, and those can coexist. Building those takes 15 minutes each on my laptop |
| 16:50:19 | Torne | you don't need to check out again each time either |
| 16:50:30 | gevaerts | And a current bootloader should be able to load all rockbox versions from the past year on all devices |
| 16:50:32 | Torne | just update to a different revision and it only has to download the changes |
| 16:50:50 | AlexP | keenerd: It takes me a maximum of 3 or 4 minutes for a build, and that's on a standard core2duo |
| 16:51:05 | AlexP | And once the initial checkout is done, then it is dead quick as torne says |
| 16:51:31 | gevaerts | And for bisecting the 6000 revisions of the past year you need 13 builds |
| 16:51:35 | Torne | my single core semron with a crippled cache builds in about 10 minutes even :) |
| 16:51:47 | Torne | gevaerts: even less if you onyl count textviewer changes |
| 16:52:04 | gevaerts | Torne: yes, in that case you probably need four or so |
| 16:52:07 | keenerd | I am so poor I am using a $15 mp3 player with a 1.25" screen as an ebook reader. You have no idea how much my computer sucks. |
| 16:52:50 | Torne | our point is that computers from even six or seven years ago build faster tahn that, so perhaps you are doing something wrong, or just engaging in hyperbole :) |
| 16:52:50 | AlexP | Maybe, but Llorean's initial statement was accurate, with no need for a "supercomputer" |
| 16:53:18 | keenerd | Most likely the former. I try not to waste your time. |
| 16:53:31 | AlexP | IIRC my atom builds in ten minutes or so |
| 16:53:47 | Torne | you could also only build the main binary and the plugin |
| 16:53:51 | Torne | you don't need to build everything |
| 16:53:58 | Torne | which would substantially reduce the time |
| 16:54:20 | gevaerts | Or just look at the svn log for likely candidates :) |
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| 17:02:59 | keenerd | Unrelated gripe. Please don't be annoyed at people for how insanely hard it is to find the web interface for the repo. Even googling "svn.rockbox.org site:rockbox.org" does not get you to it. (Though it is mentioned in passing in the 14th hit, a bugtracker entry.) If you don't know it is not there, you are not going to find it. |
| 17:03:45 | keenerd | *double negative fail |
| 17:04:08 | n1s | keenerd: svn has apretty nice "log" commad that prints the log for what you want |
| 17:04:38 | Torne | the recent activity for svn on the front page all links directly to it too |
| 17:05:46 | n1s | i agree though that finding the repo web interface is not obvious at first |
| 17:06:00 | Torne | it should porbably be in the sidebar |
| 17:06:08 | n1s | not a bad idea |
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| 17:15:57 | AlexP | yeah, it isn't clear |
| 17:16:11 | AlexP | In fact, I alwyas click on a recent commit, then go to where I want to :) |
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| 17:19:42 | n1s | me too |
| 17:20:30 | gevaerts | I just use svn log :) |
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| 17:44:31 | leachim6 | hey |
| 17:45:05 | leachim6 | I've got the latest rockbo on my Sansa Fuze v1, I can't get it to use Rockbox usb mode.....sometimes, for no apparently predictable reason, it uses the rockbox USB mode..... |
| 17:45:18 | leachim6 | but usually when I plug the USB lead in, it reboots into the official os |
| 17:45:38 | leachim6 | it says on the page "To allow booting into Rockbox upon USB connection while power is off, you must create a new patched firmware upgrade file using mkamsboot v1.4 and a v2.0 bootloader file. Links to mkamsboot and the bootloader files can be found in the manual installation section below." |
| 17:45:47 | leachim6 | I don't know how to do this, is there a guide somewhere? |
| 17:47:34 | evilnick_B | leachim6: Try: http://download.rockbox.org/daily/manual/rockbox-sansafuze/rockbox-buildch2.html#x4-110002.2.2 |
| 17:48:23 | leachim6 | is there an automatic way to use the rockbox USB mode? |
| 17:48:27 | leachim6 | that I can just enable |
| 17:49:29 | evilnick_B | If you're using a recent (i.e. svn) build then it should (afaik) work while the player is on, but in order to use Rockbox's USB mode when the player is off then you'd need to follow the instructions that I linked to. |
| 17:50:05 | leachim6 | evilnick_B, ok, so I need to reflash the bootloader? |
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| 17:50:39 | evilnick_B | Once it's been patched, yes. |
| 17:51:00 | evilnick_B | And that will allow the Fuze to use Rockbox's USB mode if you plug it in while the Fuze is off |
| 17:51:46 | leachim6 | alright, now see that line that links too that says "Fuze v1: An original firmware (OF), the bootloader, the normal Rockbox build. |
| 17:51:46 | leachim6 | " |
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| 17:52:06 | leachim6 | how do I patch the bootloader? is that bootloader file there already patched? |
| 17:55:19 | leachim6 | can you explain how the "patching" bit works? |
| 17:55:24 | evilnick_B | Is this from the link that I mentioned? |
| 17:56:13 | evilnick_B | The instructions on how to patch are literally just below that section |
| 17:57:53 | leachim6 | right, I'm just confused on what 'patched' means.... |
| 17:58:03 | leachim6 | how is that different than the patched version I installed with rbutil |
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| 18:06:42 | evilnick_B | It's a newer version of the bootloader |
| 18:06:50 | * | evilnick_B *thinks* |
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| 18:07:24 | evilnick_B | leachim6: It might be best to wait for someone with that model to reply, I have the v2 Fuze. |
| 18:08:35 | n1s | i have a v1 fuze, i just used sansapatcher on whatever OF is linked from manual |
| 18:09:27 | evilnick_B | sansapatcher or mkamsboot? |
| 18:09:48 | leachim6 | sansapatcher |
| 18:09:53 | leachim6 | can I get that on the wiki? |
| 18:10:13 | n1s | sorry, mkamsboot |
| 18:10:36 | leachim6 | oh ok |
| 18:10:41 | n1s | anyway, i just followed the instructions and they worked |
| 18:10:43 | leachim6 | so, I already havce rockbox installed |
| 18:10:58 | leachim6 | how can I just have it update the bootloader without messing up any of my settings? |
| 18:11:19 | n1s | and the problem is that usb connection while the player is off *sometimes* boots rockbox usb mode and sometimes the OF? |
| 18:11:35 | n1s | the bootloader has no effect of your settings |
| 18:13:13 | leachim6 | right.... |
| 18:13:23 | leachim6 | so an easy way to remedy the situation is just to turn the play on |
| 18:13:25 | leachim6 | then plug in the USB |
| 18:13:27 | leachim6 | am I right? |
| 18:13:32 | leachim6 | not idea, but a simple fix |
| 18:13:33 | n1s | should work |
| 18:13:34 | leachim6 | *ideal |
| 18:13:46 | leachim6 | but here's my problem... |
| 18:13:58 | leachim6 | even if Im in rockbox.....when I plug hte USB in, it reboots into OFW |
| 18:14:03 | leachim6 | is that how it's setup by default? |
| 18:15:00 | n1s | that is no setting, if your build has usb support enabled it will not reboot to rockbox so you are probably using a very old build |
| 18:15:15 | n1s | are you sure it's a v1 fuze? |
| 18:15:38 | n1s | v2 doesn't have usb yet |
| 18:16:27 | leachim6 | "./mkamsboot fuzea.bin bootloader-fuze.sansa patched.bin " is what I ran |
| 18:16:30 | leachim6 | yes, it's v1. |
| 18:17:28 | leachim6 | ok, problem. |
| 18:17:33 | leachim6 | I reinstalled the patched bootloader. |
| 18:17:37 | leachim6 | I plug in my USB lead |
| 18:17:42 | leachim6 | and it boots into rockbox, shows the menu |
| 18:17:44 | leachim6 | and then instantly reboots. |
| 18:17:53 | n1s | so what rockbox build is on it? |
| 18:18:03 | leachim6 | uh.... |
| 18:18:09 | leachim6 | whichever one is in rockboxutility... |
| 18:18:12 | leachim6 | which I guess is SVN |
| 18:19:59 | leachim6 | should I try updating it? |
| 18:22:02 | n1s | well, rockboxutility can install either the release build or a current so which one did you choose? i'd guess release since you don't know so an update is a good idea i think, although the release build should have working usb afaik |
| 18:22:22 | leachim6 | yeah, that's what I don't get. |
| 18:23:03 | leachim6 | ok, I'm installing the dev version now |
| 18:23:06 | n1s | try a current build |
| 18:23:21 | leachim6 | will this overwrite my themes? |
| 18:23:50 | n1s | no, but they might not work anymore since the wps stuff has changed a bit |
| 18:24:30 | leachim6 | ok, it works |
| 18:24:32 | leachim6 | sweet |
| 18:24:35 | leachim6 | thanks for everyone's help. |
| 18:24:57 | leachim6 | I'm usually pretty technologically proficient, what baffled me is , I coudlv'e sworn I installed the dev build originally....I must've used a release |
| 18:25:08 | leachim6 | holy sh** |
| 18:25:14 | leachim6 | I can use my fuze to change the volume on my mac???? |
| 18:25:17 | leachim6 | how does that even work!?!? |
| 18:26:23 | n1s | ah, no i was wrong, usb was not enabled for fuze in the release so this makes sense |
| 18:26:47 | n1s | leachim6: it sends usb hid events to the host when you press buttons while it's connected |
| 18:26:57 | n1s | just like the media buttons on a keyboard |
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| 18:27:35 | leachim6 | sorry, that's just like....the coolest thing ever! |
| 18:27:44 | leachim6 | this sansa's one of the coolest players I've ever used |
| 18:27:59 | leachim6 | I just bought another 8gb v1 off of woot for 40 bucks shipped |
| 18:28:01 | leachim6 | did anyone else see that woot? |
| 18:28:22 | leachim6 | can I create custom HID modes? |
| 18:28:57 | Torne | if you write a plugin, yes |
| 18:29:40 | leachim6 | also, how can I put pictureflow on the main menu? |
| 18:29:48 | leachim6 | I know it can be done, I just need to know which file to edit |
| 18:29:56 | leachim6 | I know a bit of c, probably enough to figure it out |
| 18:30:01 | Torne | it can't particularly easily, actually |
| 18:30:12 | leachim6 | really? |
| 18:30:24 | leachim6 | I read somewhere that the entire menu selection was contained in one c source file. |
| 18:30:31 | Torne | it's a plugin, you can't just add those to a menu |
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| 18:30:54 | Torne | you'd need to write some code to launch the plugin and make that a new menu option |
| 18:31:48 | leachim6 | well, let's see..... |
| 18:31:53 | leachim6 | is the fm radio not a plugin? |
| 18:31:58 | Torne | no |
| 18:32:11 | leachim6 | none of the things on the main menu are plugins, huh..... |
| 18:32:16 | leachim6 | so there's no code I can just copy/paste |
| 18:32:23 | Torne | the plugin menu is just a file browser of the directory with the plugins in. |
| 18:34:37 | leachim6 | so, what you're saying is....there's no easy way to put a plugin on the main menu |
| 18:34:42 | Torne | qno. |
| 18:34:53 | Torne | that's what i said :) |
| 18:35:04 | leachim6 | haha, dang |
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| 18:35:13 | leachim6 | that seems like a bit of a developmental oversight to me |
| 18:35:34 | gevaerts | Why? |
| 18:35:41 | Torne | we don't have customisable menus |
| 18:35:47 | leachim6 | yeah, I know. |
| 18:35:47 | leachim6 | why? |
| 18:35:56 | leachim6 | the official iPod firmware has it |
| 18:36:02 | Torne | so you can't put *anything* on the main menu :) |
| 18:36:03 | leachim6 | rockbox is supposed to have more, no? |
| 18:36:16 | Torne | rockbox is not a copy of any original firmware |
| 18:36:23 | evilnick_B | Supporting users who've messed up their menu would be a big pain |
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| 18:36:38 | leachim6 | evilnick_B, I guess that's a good point |
| 18:36:40 | Torne | if you want to implement customisable menu support go ahead |
| 18:36:50 | leachim6 | Torne, haha, tradditional opensource people. |
| 18:36:51 | gevaerts | Matching feature list checkboxes from OFs is *not* a rockbox development goal |
| 18:36:53 | Torne | there is a list of some of the potential issues on the wiki |
| 18:36:58 | leachim6 | yes, yes, I know. |
| 18:37:05 | leachim6 | I didn't have a good point, I'll admit. |
| 18:37:06 | evilnick_B | It'd have to be done the right way too |
| 18:37:17 | leachim6 | I'm just speaking of the implementation |
| 18:37:24 | leachim6 | does the menu really need to be compiled in? |
| 18:37:32 | leachim6 | why not have it in plaintext and then parsed |
| 18:37:32 | Torne | right now it does, yes |
| 18:37:33 | leachim6 | speed? |
| 18:37:49 | Torne | because nobody has implemented any other way |
| 18:38:02 | Torne | doing it like that is unlikely to be efficient or small |
| 18:38:17 | leachim6 | yeah, you have a point |
| 18:38:22 | leachim6 | I guess it'd be a bit of a kludge |
| 18:38:26 | n1s | leachim6: it's mainly that nobody has wanted that feature enough to make it, not that we are strongly against it as such |
| 18:38:31 | Torne | everything which is always needed is compiled into the main binary |
| 18:38:31 | evilnick_B | Eventually it comes down to who has the desire and time to code it and a lot of the developers see other things as higher priority |
| 18:38:43 | leachim6 | well, maybe I'll figure it out |
| 18:38:51 | Torne | please do :) |
| 18:40:24 | leachim6 | hah....I like the rockbox ascii art in the headers |
| 18:42:50 | leachim6 | what's easier, writing my own HID preset, or figuring out how to customize the menu in you guys' opinion? |
| 18:43:22 | Torne | changing the hid keymap is easy |
| 18:43:39 | Torne | either modify the one in core or modify the remote_control plugin |
| 18:44:42 | gevaerts | Launching a plugin from a menu should be easy too. Look for how the credits plugin is handled |
| 18:44:59 | Torne | oh yeah, that one.. |
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| 18:47:04 | leachim6 | :/ |
| 18:47:12 | leachim6 | I upadated to current, and now my theme's all broke. |
| 18:47:13 | leachim6 | not cool. |
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| 18:48:17 | n1s | leachim6: <n1s> no, but they might not work anymore since the wps stuff has changed a bit |
| 18:48:27 | leachim6 | yeah, I noted that. |
| 18:48:35 | leachim6 | but it turns out this theme was just updated. |
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| 18:48:47 | leachim6 | so I just installed the updated version |
| 18:52:32 | likemindead | W00T |
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| 18:54:02 | leachim6 | likemindead, so....do new plugins come out very often? |
| 18:54:14 | leachim6 | I've been using rockbox for around 3 years, and I haven't seen one yet. |
| 18:54:18 | leachim6 | except maybe the USB HID one |
| 18:54:28 | leachim6 | and pictureflow. |
| 18:54:44 | likemindead | I have no idea. I'm just a non-technical end user / FLOSS zealot. :D |
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| 18:56:17 | evilnick_B | leachim6: You haven't been paying attention then! |
| 18:57:10 | Guest97244 | hey there, the Rockbox is great, I realy appreciate your work, but I have one problem. Some songs are listed double in my Database. I already checked if the songs are two times on my Sansa SanDisk but I can only find them once. What to do? |
| 18:59:25 | gevaerts | Guest97244: that sort of thing is often caused by some trash or recycle bin on the player that's put there by the OS |
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| 19:00:49 | Guest97244 | hmm, where could I find this trash to delete it? |
| 19:01:14 | gevaerts | One way is to get properties from the tracks in the database |
| 19:02:38 | gevaerts | For both versions of a track, press long-select to get the context menu, pick "properties", and look at the path |
| 19:02:58 | gevaerts | If this is the cause, they'll be different, and you'll know where to look |
| 19:05:42 | pixelma | leachim6: there's a "skinupdater" tool in the source which you can either compile yourself or you find something in the forums. If it was possible, then themes already on the theme site had been updated as well so you could download them if you have some from there |
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| 19:12:53 | leachim6 | pixelma, already did |
| 19:13:33 | leachim6 | pixelma, thanks though |
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| 19:36:36 | crow | does "usb" driver works on ipod nano 2g ? |
| 19:37:57 | AlexP | "yes" :) |
| 19:44:02 | crow | AlexP thnx :) |
| 19:44:17 | barfster | Ehh |
| 19:44:17 | AlexP | crow: I think there might be the odd problem with HID though |
| 19:44:20 | barfster | Fully ? |
| 19:44:55 | barfster | iPod Nano 2g supposedly do not work as a dongle for PS3 |
| 19:45:03 | AlexP | That is nothing to do with it |
| 19:45:19 | barfster | Ahh, now what’s the issue then? |
| 19:45:23 | AlexP | You have to rape the controller to make that work and not all let you |
| 19:45:24 | barfster | Most other parts seem to be green |
| 19:45:33 | AlexP | Normal USB is another story |
| 19:47:11 | crow | wanna try that ps3 stuff on it :) |
| 19:47:19 | gevaerts | barfster: if a device supports this PS3 thing, it's no longer usb, which is why the nano2g does fully support usb, but the nano1g doesn't |
| 19:48:11 | crow | is it allowed here to talk about ps3? and psgrove patchs? |
| 19:48:23 | AlexP | It isn't really to do with Rockbox |
| 19:48:23 | gevaerts | it's not really on topic here |
| 19:48:40 | barfster | But plugins or patches... |
| 19:48:44 | crow | ok thats reason i ask if its ok :) |
| 19:48:44 | gevaerts | Unless you're porting rockbox to run on the ps3 of course |
| 19:48:51 | AlexP | barfster: It is neither |
| 19:49:00 | crow | gevaerts not that much knowelage :(( |
| 19:49:08 | AlexP | It isn't ever going to get into Rockbox, and isn't intended to |
| 19:49:16 | crow | i am trying to patch source but fails as mismatch |
| 19:50:12 | barfster | which platform are you trying to compile on? |
| 19:50:25 | AlexP | If this is psgroove, then please take it elsewhere |
| 19:50:31 | AlexP | It really isn't on topic for here |
| 19:50:51 | crow | shure will not post here about it :) |
| 19:50:56 | AlexP | thanks :) |
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| 20:29:38 | bluebroth3r | barfster: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11643 |
| 20:30:57 | barfster | bluebroth3r: Thanks I already compiled the x-compiler |
| 20:31:18 | bluebroth3r | so you got it working with that patch? |
| 20:33:29 | barfster | Nah |
| 20:33:38 | barfster | Well the x-compiler compiled without errors |
| 20:33:44 | barfster | However compiling rockbox failed |
| 20:33:56 | bluebroth3r | how did you compile the cross compiler without binutils? |
| 20:34:07 | barfster | without binutils? |
| 20:34:41 | barfster | Aren’t those already in XCode or ports? |
| 20:34:47 | bluebroth3r | well, when building a cross compiler toolchain you need to build binutils, then gcc |
| 20:34:59 | barfster | I followed the how-to |
| 20:35:03 | bluebroth3r | you need binutils build for cross compiling too |
| 20:35:14 | bluebroth3r | which howto? |
| 20:35:42 | barfster | I ran just: rockboxdev.sh |
| 20:35:58 | barfster | But there is another one |
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| 20:36:21 | bluebroth3r | hmm, rockboxdev.sh doesn't build the eabi toolchain on 10.6 without the FS task I've posted above |
| 20:36:25 | barfster | http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/CrossCompiler |
| 20:36:39 | barfster | Ahh |
| 20:36:49 | barfster | That’s why it’s broken then |
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| 20:37:07 | barfster | But I applied that patch today |
| 20:37:18 | barfster | gevaerts gave me the same link |
| 20:37:20 | * | bluebroth3r is confused |
| 20:37:36 | barfster | So that is not the reason why it does not compile |
| 20:38:00 | bluebroth3r | ok, so you applied FS #11643, then ran rockboxdev.sh to build the eabi toolchain. The toolchain did build but rockbox built with that toolchain crashes? |
| 20:38:25 | barfster | it did not crash |
| 20:38:30 | barfster | it compiled with errors |
| 20:38:34 | barfster | but no binaries |
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| 20:38:58 | bluebroth3r | that doesn't sound like a problem with the toolchain then (you're talking about building Rockbox now, right?) |
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| 20:47:00 | barfster | affirmative |
| 20:47:16 | barfster | Do you feel like reading the output? |
| 20:49:50 | bluebroth3r | ok, so FS #11643 works for others too and I can commit that. Great. |
| 20:49:57 | bluebroth3r | sure, can you pastebin it? |
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| 20:59:20 | barfster | I tried make -j earlier today |
| 20:59:29 | barfster | I just did make clean |
| 20:59:34 | barfster | and now I am doing make |
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| 21:04:44 | CIA-81 | r28178 build result: All green |
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| 21:14:20 | sudoman | hi, I just reformatted my 5.5g ipod on ubuntu 10.04. if i understand the directions correctly, my ipod needs to reboot to update the contents of the rom. however, i don't know how to eject it. (i had "umounted" it to do the various previous steps.) right now, the ipod screen is flashing "do not disconnect". how should i proceed? |
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| 21:16:00 | sudoman | i can feel the hd spinning too. |
| 21:16:14 | gevaerts | unplug it? |
| 21:16:40 | gevaerts | Or use the eject command if you *really* want to |
| 21:17:37 | bluebroth3r | why does some ROM contents need updating after reformatting it? |
| 21:18:32 | sudoman | thanks, the eject command worked. :) |
| 21:18:50 | sudoman | bluebroth3r: i think it's because the previous step was to put on a new firmware image |
| 21:18:57 | n1s | bluebroth3r: if he installed a newer OF than he had before it will flash rom on first reboot (if it needs to) |
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| 21:27:23 | bluebroth3r | well, "reformat" doesn't include "restore" from my understanding but only "reformat the data partition". If you put a new firmware partition on it things are different. |
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| 21:28:07 | sudoman | yeah, that's what i did. i followed these directions: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IpodManualRestore |
| 21:28:24 | sudoman | sorry for the confusion ;) |
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| 22:42:33 | CIA-81 | New commit by bluebrother (r28179): Make eabi toolchain build on OS X 10.6. ... |
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| 22:44:20 | CIA-81 | r28179 build result: All green |
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| 22:53:49 | soap | nice, bluebroth3r |
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