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#rockbox log for 2010-10-03

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01:02:38CIA-81New commit by Buschel (r28200): Fix FS #11650. Correct sliencing of subband in mpc decoder. Thanks to Leo Witt for reporting and supporting.
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07:43:38CIA-81New commit by jdgordon (r28201): Fix FS #11648 - loading a .cfg doesnt automatically save the new config, caused by r28120. This fix will only save the new config loaded from the ...
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10:17:32someweirdohi i try to build rockbox but gcc isn't behaving and is getting errors "undefined reference to `__exidx_start'" do i have to patch gcc so far tried gcc-trunk and 4.5
10:18:48factorsomeweirdo, gcc or arm gcc?
10:19:34factorok gotcha
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10:20:20someweirdodo you know how to fix this problem?
10:20:22factorI had talked to a few of them , have not gotten to compile it myself yet but got the embedian version of arm gcc , they said it had to be a specific version
10:21:00factorI was reading over the compilation looked they may have been using a cygwin version of the arm comiler , not for sure though
10:21:24factorthey did say it had to be a "specific" one though
10:21:38factorarm rev. are very picky I heard.
10:22:15n1ssomeweirdo: why are you not using the recomended version?
10:23:52someweirdoi built the cross compiler myself so i am going to try gcc-4.4 now.
10:25:07someweirdoi read the wiki for cygwin but it seems to be no working.
10:25:16n1ssomeweirdo: we provide the rockboxdev script that downloads the toolchain source, applies necessary patches, builds and install for you
10:25:24n1soh, you are on cygwin?
10:25:56someweirdono, but i just try it see if it works or not
10:26:43n1swe recommend 4.4.4 for arm eabi but it needs a patch to work, did you have problems with the script+
10:27:43someweirdois 4.4.6 from svn ok? because i am building the cross compiler right now can you point me to the patch needed for gcc?
10:29:07someweirdoi'm not using the script inside rockbox to build gcc btw which script should be involked?
10:29:26n1safaik noone's tried 4.4.6 but it'll likely work fine
10:29:39someweirdobecause i already have libraries require for gcc prebuilt is our script for building toolchains
10:31:10n1sthis is the patch that the script applies
10:32:12n1sand you might need binutils-2.20.1-ld-thumb-interwork-long-call.diff from the same dir if your target uses thumb
10:36:56someweirdook thanks i will try them
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10:38:40someweirdois the binutils patch already applied up stream ?
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10:57:09AlexPJust use the script, it does everything necessary
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11:01:18factorwill put that on my list of things to do , want to make an rockbox app. but working on some other stuff right now
11:07:27pixelmasoap: you could make a font with lots of whitespace above and below the actual characters
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11:08:30pixelmaI could also imagine that the thing kritsku is suggesting is already doable as a theme with the help of SBS, list viewports and maybe multifont
11:10:31pixelmaexcept animations
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11:15:31*JdGordon| wonders if anyone uses his atuoconfigure script? and if anyother folder structers should be supported?
11:19:43pixelmait sounded interesting but since I already have the structure set up and a "make reconf" is faster, there was no need to try yet. I wondered about voice builds though
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11:21:53pixelmaJdGordon|: and my build directory is outside the source dir (seems I'm in a (or even the) minority there though, would that work?
11:23:25JdGordon|there is no voice support, i can easily add it, and it should work anywhere
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11:24:09JdGordon|make reconf doesnt always work for me, and I do alot of builds once off, so its probably not somethhing most people will need
11:24:21JdGordon|but always nice making it more useable
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13:33:40amiconngevaerts: ping
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13:45:08gevaertsamiconn: pong?
13:45:33amiconnI just tried the resistor plugin and found two bugs
13:46:37amiconnThe first happens when you use the colour decoding, and the string (black-brown-red etc) is longer than the screen width so it has to scroll, and you return to the menu, the scrolling text stays and scrolls "through" the menu
13:47:46amiconnThe other one is a crash bug. If you enter the LED resistor calculation, but then try to abort with LEFT, it goes on to the next selection and then to a vkeyboard. If you also abort that, the plugin throws a div0 error (at least on arm)
13:49:53*gevaerts looks
13:54:19gevaertsThere's no stop_scroll() in the code, which explains the first
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13:58:40CIA-81New commit by amiconn (r28202): Make test_fps test the greylib on both cores of dual core targets.
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13:59:23CIA-81r28202 build result: All green
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14:00:27someweirdohi i get this on build rockbox-3.6 rockbox/apps/action.c:26:18: fatal error: lang.h: No such file or directory how to solve it?
14:01:00gevaertssomeweirdo: did you build in a clean directory?
14:01:40someweirdoalthough i dont get this error if i build the svn trunk.
14:01:51gevaertsAre you using any sort of -j flags for make?
14:03:28gevaertsTry "make clean", and see if there are any files left except Makefile and autoconf.h
14:03:29someweirdoi should get branches/v3_6 or tags/v3_6 ?
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14:04:44gevaerts3.6 is tags/v3_6. branches/v3_6 would contain updates to 3.6, for a possible 3.6.1, but I don't think there were any, so they should be the same
14:05:27someweirdoMakefile multigcc.out.4260 multigcc.out.4262 multigcc.out.4414 multigcc.out.4416 autoconf.h multigcc.out.4261 multigcc.out.4265 multigcc.out.4415 multigcc.out.4419
14:05:51someweirdoautoconf.h multigcc.out.4261 multigcc.out.4265 multigcc.out.4415 multigcc.out.4419
14:06:38gevaertshm, those multigcc.out.* shouldn't hurt, but they shouldn't be there either...
14:07:00gevaertsLooks like dependency generation may have failed somehow
14:07:42gevaertsTry removing those, and then run "make dep"
14:08:16gevaertsThat should say "Generating dependencies" (twice). After that, you should have Makefile, autoconf.h, and make.dep, and *nothing* else
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14:11:42someweirdorockbox/tools/ Permission denied maybe caused by the conversion that i did using winrar -> zip file...
14:12:10someweirdowhy isn't there a tarball source available?
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14:15:52gevaertsWhy have more than one download for exactly the same thing?
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14:27:09gevaertsDoes lcd_puts_scroll() use fontsize-based coordinates?
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14:28:02gevaertsIf I want to show an image, and below that image I want scrolling text, I guess the easiest way is to make a separate viewport for the text?
14:28:30JdGordonyes and maybe
14:29:16gevaertsI have to "guess" the top coordinate in some way otherwise
14:29:17JdGordonthere is also a (IIRC) lcd_putsxy() which is pixel coords
14:29:43gevaertsyes, but I need scrolling
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15:08:15kugelgcc 4.4.5 is out
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15:27:26funmanUSB isn't enabled on AMSv2. I suppose complaining still doesn't magically fixes that?
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15:57:21CIA-81New commit by gevaerts (r28203): Resistor calculator: simplify layout code, add scrolling, and handle error cases
15:58:52CIA-81r28203 build result: All green
15:59:11gevaertsamiconn: I think that should fix your issues
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16:03:46Jaykayuhm, what is the purpose of resirtor calculator? i mean, can you image any real-life situation where this plugin is useful?
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16:04:38gevaertsJaykay: woudln't that be the case for 80% of our plugins?
16:04:51*gevaerts proposes to remove doom :)
16:05:08Jaykaydoom is fun, while a resistor calculator is not :)
16:05:19gevaertsDoom is *not* fun!
16:05:20AlexPJaykay: yes, to claculate resistor values
16:05:21Jaykaybut you are right, most plugins are not really useful
16:05:32AlexPThe resistor one is more useful than most
16:05:36AlexPIt actually has a use
16:05:47gevaertsAnyway, there's a group of people somewhere in between those who dream of resistors and those who don't know what they are
16:05:56*AlexP falls there
16:06:07AlexPI regularly use them, but I don't have the colour bands memorised
16:06:08gevaertsPeople who do electronics *very* occasionally may well not know the colour codes by heart
16:06:18AlexPwell, regularly is pushing it
16:13:42kugelit would've been very useful for me a year ago :)
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16:19:33CIA-81New commit by teru (r28204): correct drawing of the bar type tags when nofill is set. ...
16:21:32CIA-81r28204 build result: All green
16:24:20kugelshould we consider updating our gcc to 4.4.5?
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16:45:40BuschelTheSeven: you there?
16:45:43funmankugel: if 4.4.5 is a bugfix-only and we are not affected by any of the bugs fixed between 4.4.4 and 4.4.5 i think not
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16:49:36TheSevenBuschel: pong
16:50:08BuschelTheSeven: did you work on configuration of the WM8975 for the nano2g?
16:50:35TheSevenI'm currently reversing the audio area of the OF
16:50:41BuschelTheSeven: I have the strong feeling the codec is running with <44.1 kHz
16:51:06TheSevenmainly to figure out how they handle DMA, but we might also find the reason for the popping noise on boot
16:51:18TheSeventhe frequency shouldn't depend on the codec
16:51:29TheSeventhat's driven by the I2S clock of the soc
16:51:39TheSevenwhich is PCLK through some divider
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16:51:50TheSevenand IIRC I calibrated that
16:52:21CIA-81New commit by gevaerts (r28205): Resistor calculator: Don't assume a specific foreground colour
16:52:33BuschelTheSeven: hmm, where can I find this code?
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16:53:02TheSevenprobably in /firmware/arm/s5l8700/pcm-s5l8700.c
16:54:01TheSevenoh, it has its own pll
16:54:16CIA-81r28205 build result: All green
16:54:36TheSevenwe know the exact clocking parameters and chose the PLL settings accordingly, and I also verified that by letting it play some sine and measuring the frequency, which was less than 1% off
16:54:44TheSevenIIRC *way* less than 1%
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16:55:04TheSevenare you undervolting the SoC?
16:55:09Buschelhmm... I will compare the nano with my iPod Video
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16:55:18TheSeveni've seen that make the xtal osc freq drop by up to 10% in the past
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16:56:17BuschelI am undervolting the CPU (0.95%), but I am sure I had the same feeling with the samplerate before
16:56:29Buschelsorry => 0.95V
16:56:57BuschelI can re-test this of course
16:59:59TheSeven0.975V was the lowest voltage that didn't cause frequency drops on mine IIRC
17:00:00*gevaerts wonders if the resistor calculator plugin should somehow use lists instead of just lines of text
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17:01:27gevaertsIt wants up to four lines of text, and that's not available on all players or with all configurations
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17:11:15BuschelTheSeven: ok, PLL1 looks fine. but the WM8975-config looks strange... will make a quick test
17:11:51TheSevenIIRC the wolfson config was taken over from some other target using the same chip
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17:12:40Buschelyes, except the clocking. that is pre-defined for external clock of 24MHz. the config for the nano just writes 0x0 to the config register −− which looks strange
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17:14:53Buschelit should write something like (1<<7) | (0x2000)
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17:15:56Buschelahem, 1<<7 | (0x8)
17:16:47*Buschel better gets himself a beer...
17:21:10*kugel just did
17:25:48TheSevenBuschel: IIUC the SoC defines the sampling rate, not the wolfson
17:26:11TheSeven(the SoC is the I2S master in this case)
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17:37:10BuschelTheSeven: after some tests -> it _was_ the underclokcing
17:37:38Buschelas I said, I need a beer :/ yes, the undervolting
17:37:41TheSevenwhat's the lowest good voltage for you?
17:37:59BuschelI used it at 0.95V before
17:38:08TheSevenok, so that's fairly consistent across individual devices
17:38:20TheSevenwe're running at 1.000V by default
17:39:06gevaertsYou can implement timestretch on the nano2g by changing the CPU voltage? Maybe this needs more study... :)
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20:04:01[AndrewR]hello, I'm trying to use lcd_filltriangle and it says it's not defined
20:04:11[AndrewR]but it's on
20:05:54[AndrewR]any ideas?
20:06:26gevaertsThis is for a plugin I assume?
20:07:18gevaertsMaybe have a look at what other plugins do. I suspect xlcd_filltriangle() is what you want
20:07:27gevaerts(in xlcd.h)
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20:10:57[AndrewR]yeah, it's for a plugin
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20:12:32[AndrewR]works great, thanks!
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21:07:04spike__i had an idea about running my sansa out of batteries
21:07:33spike__maybe i could run some usb powered device through the battery onboard it using usb extension cable?
21:12:27krazykitno, probably not.
21:12:49krazykitit would work if the dock connector provided power to arbitrary devices (quite unlikely)
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21:35:07bertrikhello Youbi
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21:49:22YoubiIs someone using rb on sansa clip+ ?
21:50:43markunI do
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21:53:25kugelYoubi: many are
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23:40:20[AndrewR]I'm trying to capture scroll fwd on my sansa with my plugin, and it works if I scroll, stop, scroll more, stop, etc
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23:40:50[AndrewR]but if I scroll the wheel continually it doesn't continually send BUTTON_SCROLL_FWD events, any way to capture multiple scrolls at once?
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