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| 03:14:51 | saratoga | i need to talk to buschel but i think this mp3 idea will work |
| 03:16:02 | saratoga | and i think it will be a lot faster |
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| 04:00:42 | scorche | soap: so as i said last night, there is a "Maximum time after posting to allow edit" option where one specifies a number of minutes |
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| 04:11:45 | JdGordon| | nothing to disable editing after someone has replied though? :( |
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| 04:19:24 | scorche | nope |
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| 04:29:54 | saratoga_ | what the hell: http://www.treo8.com/bbs/thread-169671-1-1.html |
| 04:30:06 | saratoga_ | since when do we run on palm |
| 04:30:29 | JdGordon| | haha wow! |
| 04:30:38 | JdGordon| | Davide-nyc would be happy |
| 04:31:55 | JdGordon| | looks like we need a chinese speaker to get in touch with him |
| 04:33:16 | saratoga_ | doesn't look like he posted the source |
| 04:33:42 | JdGordon| | google translate no worky:( |
| 04:33:52 | JdGordon| | how did you find that? |
| 04:34:20 | saratoga_ | i was googling to see if people were actually using rockbox on android and that popped up |
| 04:34:40 | saratoga_ | translate is down for chrome, but the search engine translate works |
| 04:34:47 | saratoga_ | well works in that it gives you a nonsense translation |
| 04:35:12 | saratoga_ | webos is apparently linux + SDL so I suppose it was not a difficult port |
| 04:35:20 | saratoga_ | but i'm curious how its implemented |
| 04:35:49 | saratoga_ | do we have any developers who speak chinese |
| 04:36:17 | JdGordon| | I think markun can (or was learning?) |
| 04:40:00 | saratoga_ | bah its not a RAAA build |
| 04:40:04 | scorche | saratoga_: my girlfriend can... |
| 04:40:09 | saratoga_ | its a hacked up Gigabeat S build of 3.5.1 |
| 04:41:11 | saratoga_ | scorche: thanks, but we probably need someone familiar with rockbox development to talk to them |
| 04:41:22 | saratoga_ | and hopefully encourage them to use RAAA now that its mostly ready |
| 04:41:39 | scorche | well, she can translate what i say... |
| 04:41:47 | JdGordon| | if its a simple beast sim then raa would almost certainly "just work" |
| 04:42:30 | JdGordon| | hopefully this doesnt end up like the moto build :/ |
| 04:42:41 | saratoga_ | yeah might be nice to post there saying that we've now got the beginning of a framework for porting rockbox to phones |
| 04:42:55 | saratoga_ | and encourage them to submit the source |
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| 04:45:53 | scorche | write something up, and i can have her try to translate a post |
| 04:46:27 | JdGordon| | well more than that... explain that very likely the only changes he would need are to configure to make the application build use the correct compiler and paths, and any hardware changes |
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| 04:47:42 | saratoga_ | either jon or kugel should do it |
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| 04:49:01 | saratoga_ | that reminds me, how close are we to getting rid of the grid interface touch devices? |
| 04:49:53 | scorche | and they should try to stay away from really technical terms if they can...i doubt the gf would be able to translate extremely technical things - they generally are a very slang-ish thing in Chinese and unless being immersed in the tech culture there, it would be almost impossible to know the correct translation |
| 04:50:30 | saratoga_ | do we really not have a single native chinese speaker doing rockbox development? |
| 04:51:31 | scorche | i dont think so - we could perhaps see about tracking down and asking the last person to do big edits to the lang files |
| 04:53:29 | scorche | i am sure there are a few names in the tracker if we look hard enough |
| 04:53:52 | scorche | this person, perhaps? http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/user/3430 |
| 04:56:12 | JdGordon| | saratoga_: re getting rid of grid... that will never be gone, but as far as changing it from being the default, all we really need is a touch enabled sbs |
| 04:56:20 | JdGordon| | that would at least cover 90% of the ui |
| 04:56:31 | saratoga_ | is that particularly hard to do? |
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| 04:56:52 | saratoga_ | sbs is the status bar? |
| 04:56:56 | JdGordon| | no, but it is "arty" which means argumentative |
| 04:57:25 | JdGordon| | the list skin... I've started one for 320x480 which is in svn and works pretty well |
| 04:57:40 | saratoga_ | whats it actually stand for? |
| 04:57:54 | saratoga_ | and how does it work? just a big font and you touch the item you want? |
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| 04:58:06 | JdGordon| | origionally "statusbar skin" |
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| 04:59:04 | JdGordon| | the lists all work fine with a stylus, but things like going back to menus, or even up one level in the browser is hard with a finger without a sbs |
| 04:59:47 | saratoga_ | i guess some kind of android style swipe left or right to go up through trees isn't possible? |
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| 05:00:04 | JdGordon| | it should be |
| 05:00:48 | saratoga_ | that actually sounds like something that might be worth taking directly from the android source code |
| 05:01:52 | saratoga_ | but yes i think getting touch working reasonably well by default is pretty important, since its probably a prerequisite for getting people using rockbox on android |
| 05:02:02 | saratoga_ | and getting users is a good first step to getting more developers |
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| 05:02:41 | saratoga_ | google suggests that most people playing around with android builds are baffled by the controls |
| 05:02:43 | JdGordon| | indeed, and yeah, it is entirely waiting for a sbs now, android is perectly useable now |
| 05:02:50 | JdGordon| | or no less than any other in development port |
| 05:02:51 | saratoga_ | which neatly mirrors my own experience trying kugel's builds |
| 05:03:28 | * | JdGordon| wonders about drawing an overlay to show the grid positions |
| 05:03:47 | saratoga_ | i'm hoping once the port becomes popular we'll see someone take interest in an icon based touch interface as well |
| 05:04:17 | JdGordon| | I'm not so sure that would work well for anything except the main menu |
| 05:04:40 | saratoga_ | i was thinking folder icon (or album art) and title below it in a grid |
| 05:04:44 | saratoga_ | gives you more room to touch with a finger |
| 05:05:23 | saratoga_ | as the resolution of android devices creeps up, i think that'll become more and more attractive |
| 05:05:28 | JdGordon| | I have a really nice idea how to do it with the current skining system, but no clue how to acually code it so it works |
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| 05:12:10 | soap | scorche, how about we just switch forum software to IP.Board? I'll pay for at least the first year. |
| 05:12:39 | saratoga_ | whats wrong with what we have? |
| 05:13:13 | soap | lack of fine-grained control. Poor mobile interface. |
| 05:13:25 | soap | but not really a whole lot. |
| 05:13:35 | saratoga_ | if we're going to mess around with the site, I'd rather have some blog software built in :) |
| 05:13:35 | scorche | in its defense, it is a number of revisiona behind |
| 05:13:50 | saratoga_ | so we could do news items like xbmc does |
| 05:14:08 | soap | or HA, yes |
| 05:14:21 | JdGordon| | copying HA cant be a good thing! :D |
| 05:14:26 | scorche | i was meaning to do an upgrade of the forums at DevCon, however i apparently was having too much fun and forgot about it |
| 05:14:30 | saratoga_ | i've given up on ever having a new front page, but blog.rockbox.org would be nice |
| 05:14:40 | JdGordon| | amen |
| 05:15:10 | soap | a front-page dictator needs to sieze power. Front-page-by-committee failed. |
| 05:15:37 | scorche | it wouldnt be hard for me to set up one, however, I am a bit hesitant about Wordpress - there are so many security vulnerabilities that seem to get reported for it |
| 05:15:48 | saratoga_ | http://xbmc.org/ |
| 05:15:51 | saratoga_ | what are they using? |
| 05:15:55 | saratoga_ | it looks pretty awesome |
| 05:16:41 | JdGordon| | it would be really awesome if we could integrate the wiki+forum+blog+tracker into one user/pass combo and look/feel |
| 05:16:44 | scorche | wordpress |
| 05:17:05 | scorche | if we do do wordpress, i just need to be on my toes more about updating... |
| 05:17:29 | saratoga_ | hmm ok |
| 05:17:45 | scorche | JdGordon: it would be, but as it stands, they are hosted on multiple servers |
| 05:17:46 | saratoga_ | its weird how sourceforge/google/etc don't provide something like this for open source projects |
| 05:18:03 | JdGordon| | isnt that what TRAC is? |
| 05:18:05 | saratoga_ | i don't really care about common accounts |
| 05:18:18 | JdGordon| | and sourceforges crappy forum/tracker thing |
| 05:18:24 | saratoga_ | hell we don't even really need comments on the blog, we could just link to the normal forums |
| 05:18:46 | JdGordon| | thats what ocau.com do for their news items... |
| 05:19:03 | JdGordon| | news is a forum thread which the frontpage loads, comments link back into the thread |
| 05:19:35 | JdGordon| | if the forum db is accessable that potentially owuldnt be too difficult to add |
| 05:20:38 | JdGordon| | saratoga_: how do you know he used a beast sim? |
| 05:20:49 | saratoga_ | rockbox-info.txt |
| 05:21:10 | saratoga_ | Target define: -DGIGABEAT_S |
| 05:21:39 | saratoga_ | we should make rockbox-info.txt include the output of SVN diff |
| 05:22:01 | JdGordon| | that could be rather big |
| 05:22:16 | saratoga_ | yeah but its just text, so it'll zip down to nothing |
| 05:22:28 | saratoga_ | plus its not our problem ;) |
| 05:24:12 | saratoga_ | scorche: so are you actually interested in setting up wordpress or is that not a good solution? |
| 05:24:59 | scorche | saratoga: i suppose i could, however, i would rather other people do the template/css stuff |
| 05:25:39 | saratoga_ | any idea who the other people are? |
| 05:25:57 | saratoga_ | maybe ask on the dev list? |
| 05:26:58 | scorche | well, likely the same people who worked on the theme site? |
| 05:27:12 | JdGordon| | which didnt go anywhere, so they may not be bothered |
| 05:27:31 | scorche | huh? |
| 05:27:46 | * | JdGordon| learns to read |
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| 05:31:48 | JdGordon| | there is probably a forum plugin to do this also |
| 05:32:03 | saratoga_ | ok maybe send an email to the dev list and see if anyone is interested in helping? |
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| 05:48:48 | S_a_i_n_t | TMI, TMI! |
| 05:50:05 | JdGordon| | actually umm... :/ |
| 05:50:55 | JdGordon| | arg, no, scrolling is still going to kill everything |
| 05:51:30 | S_a_i_n_t | Could you do forced scrolling? |
| 05:51:51 | S_a_i_n_t | like the "hold X" to scroll business, and just not scroll automatically? |
| 05:52:12 | JdGordon| | that would suck... and no, maybe it isnt as bad as I think |
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| 05:53:59 | saratoga_ | maybe having a second interface for touch targets would be better? (i don't know anything about the code though) |
| 05:54:45 | JdGordon| | I could see people wanting a grid or more control over the lists on non touch targets also |
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| 05:55:58 | saratoga_ | i think having two interfaces would be nice in that it would enforce more abstraction of the UI from the core, but maybe its not worth it |
| 05:56:30 | saratoga_ | eventually i want to have a way to issue UI actions via script for testing |
| 05:56:34 | JdGordon| | unless someone wants to go and make a headless RaaA port I dont tihnk that would happen :) |
| 05:56:50 | JdGordon| | nice timing there, that remark works a s a reply to both your last ones |
| 05:56:59 | saratoga_ | yes |
| 05:57:37 | JdGordon| | rasher did make a patch to issue commands to the sim through a named pipe, but a proper daemon would be awesome |
| 05:57:57 | saratoga_ | really? is it on FS? |
| 05:58:00 | JdGordon| | yeah |
| 05:58:26 | saratoga_ | FS #10575 |
| 05:58:28 | saratoga_ | how did i miss that |
| 05:59:47 | saratoga_ | how does that work for time sensitive actions? |
| 05:59:57 | saratoga_ | can you tell it to pause for a second then do another action? |
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| 06:00:10 | JdGordon| | wouldn't have a clue |
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| 06:00:26 | JdGordon| | witha bit of tweaking it oculd probably be done |
| 06:01:54 | saratoga_ | ugh this would have been amazingly useful last fall when debugging the clipv1 issues |
| 06:02:26 | JdGordon| | no, a proper way to run the playback engine outside the ui would be better :p |
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| 06:07:41 | saratoga_ | yes it would |
| 06:09:26 | olll | has anyone had any sucess compiling RaaA with wince-gcc? |
| 06:09:57 | JdGordon| | I don't know if anyone has tried |
| 06:11:27 | JdGordon| | saratoga_: "load track -> play for 20 seconds -> skip backwards 5 seconds -> " the seeking could be interesting... if you use the seek setting that is easy, but if it actually needs you do hold |<< then you'd have to figure out how many SEEK|BUTTON_REPEAT actions would be needed to get the seek time correct |
| 06:14:57 | olll | I've spent a most of last sunday without success. With RaaA and openzdk, the zune seems much more approachable, maybe even a simpler windows mobile port |
| 06:16:09 | JdGordon| | what sort of problems are you hitting? |
| 06:19:30 | olll | i believe missing header/libraries, havent booted up my linux machine since last sunday :P |
| 06:19:49 | JdGordon| | are you just trying to build the RaaA sdl port? |
| 06:19:55 | olll | yeah |
| 06:20:03 | JdGordon| | does openzdk have sdl? |
| 06:21:29 | saratoga_ | when i played around with wince-gcc the problem i ran into was that many of the wince headers are weird |
| 06:21:30 | olll | no, i was starting with an existing sdl port for wince |
| 06:22:01 | olll | yeah, ^ i read the archives |
| 06:22:16 | saratoga_ | although the recent android changes may have improved that, i'm not sure |
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| 06:22:58 | JdGordon| | you should be able to build a binary without sdl dependancies at all if you stub a bunch of functions |
| 06:23:12 | JdGordon| | I thought kugel was going to write up how to port RaaA |
| 06:23:51 | saratoga_ | he put a bit on the wiki about it IIRC |
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| 06:27:38 | olll | http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/PortingApplication |
| 06:30:38 | JdGordon| | it would be nice if those stubs were added as a "stub" RaaA port to help new people |
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| 06:31:18 | saratoga_ | yeah that would be cool |
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| 06:36:48 | nostra | Hi guys i found ur website few hours ago, cause i was gonna update the firmware for my sansa express (simple mp3-player)... but what was going throu my mind was "Can i make my own firmware to this device?" So now am asking you guys that knows alot about this. Is it possible for me to build my own firmware for this simple mp3-player? |
| 06:37:59 | nostra | Is there someway to decompile their rsc and take a look or something? All help would be greatful. |
| 06:38:41 | JdGordon| | simple answer is.. "depends on your skill level" |
| 06:39:06 | JdGordon| | I dont tihnk any work has been done on the express... |
| 06:40:07 | nostra | I do know some program a bit but i dont know where to start |
| 06:40:18 | nostra | programming* |
| 06:41:40 | saratoga_ | nostra: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/Main/NewPort |
| 06:41:55 | saratoga_ | http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaExpressPort |
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| 06:45:37 | nostra | saratoga_: thank you, looks intressting |
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| 07:13:32 | nostra | how am i able to look into them *.rsc? i found some text what they including but i want to see by myself |
| 07:14:24 | nostra | and *.sb |
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| 07:21:32 | S_a_i_n_t | google is your friend. |
| 07:22:17 | S_a_i_n_t | .sb seems to be MS Small Basic, and there are several .RSC editors I found from a singular search query |
| 07:23:31 | JdGordon| | I doubt .sb here is a MS file |
| 07:23:46 | S_a_i_n_t | I could also be a "Signed Byte" audio file, in which case Quicktime should be able to open it at least. |
| 07:24:05 | S_a_i_n_t | or some completely random other extension ;) |
| 07:24:06 | JdGordon| | isnt that the sigmatel firware image type? |
| 07:29:04 | nostra | Makes sense, "Sansa express, One of the Sigmatel based devices in the Sansa line" |
| 07:29:54 | JdGordon| | http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SigmaTelSTMP3xxx might be helpful |
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| 07:35:20 | Buschel | saratoga: (for the logs) I have read all the mp3-discussions of last night. the dct32-asm stuff in libmad was deactivated as it is reasonably faster to use the C-version. the dct32-code wasn't optimized for cycles but for size −− the old cpu's seem to have handled those faster |
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| 07:35:45 | Buschel | saratoga: what is the idea you wanted to talk about? |
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| 07:49:24 | nostra | "There actually aren't any separate radio chips because the FM tuner is built into the SigmaTel STMP3600 system-on-a-chip that runs the device. " wow so i could get FM if i get my own firmware into sansa express? :) |
| 07:50:09 | olll | depends if your specific chip supports it, not just the product line |
| 07:50:43 | nostra | still intressting, gotta learn this with firmwares for sure |
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| 08:01:22 | nostra | Iv tryed ResEdit and few more programs still cant take a look into player.rsc |
| 08:03:21 | JdGordon| | the .sb is probably more important/interesting |
| 08:05:02 | nostra | Yeah am gonna give 'em a try instead, see what i can get out of it |
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| 08:30:01 | nostra | is it possible to make ur own startup-LCD-animation on a device if you make ur own firmware? |
| 08:31:36 | JdGordon| | you can do anything if you make your own firmware |
| 08:31:46 | nostra | That what i was thinking yeah |
| 08:31:55 | tmzt_ | seems to be talking about repacking sandisk stuff |
| 08:32:22 | nostra | I just want to try to edit it somehow |
| 08:33:33 | nostra | learn more about devices |
| 08:33:56 | nostra | atleast firmwares |
| 08:34:45 | tmzt_ | firmware is just the software that runs the device, this project is about an entirely new firmware for various audio players |
| 08:34:58 | tmzt_ | you can read about it on the website referenced in the topic |
| 08:35:40 | tmzt_ | just a hint, the animiation is probably either executable code or a series of bgr565 bitmaps in a compressed format of some sort, possibly a variant of rle |
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| 08:56:22 | nostra | tmzt_: Thank you for the hints, but it dosnt seems like it's that eazy to find where it is at in the firmware |
| 08:58:20 | nostra | yeah i know whats this project is about. Its a good project too. Maybe i will join when i got more skillz about this, but am sure its fun |
| 08:59:45 | nostra | i mean i will support when my skillz are increased |
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| 09:28:07 | JdGordon | soap: scorche: can you ban dobson52 on the forums? |
| 09:30:55 | nostra | wow... i installed another firmware and got FMradio now :) |
| 09:31:30 | JdGordon | great, but the only firmware which we allow discussion of here is rockbox |
| 09:32:14 | nostra | offcourse |
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| 12:12:45 | * | JdGordon spots yet another path which wasn fixed for the get_user_file_path() work :/ |
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| 12:16:38 | JdGordon | why oh why wasnt it done silently in the open() call to just replace /.rockbox/ ? :'( |
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| 12:35:23 | wodz | JdGordon: ping |
| 12:39:07 | JdGordon | hey |
| 12:41:15 | wodz | is there a chance You will have access to Your archos recorder in not geological timeframe? |
| 12:42:09 | JdGordon | not likely soon... |
| 12:42:25 | wodz | :/ |
| 12:48:28 | wodz | JdGordon: another question - currently only bmp graphic is used in themes - what would be needed to support e.g png beside decompressor in core? |
| 12:49:09 | JdGordon | 2 lines changed from the skins point of view |
| 12:50:10 | JdGordon | does png really give any benefits? |
| 12:50:16 | wodz | dunno |
| 12:50:23 | wodz | just thinking about it |
| 12:51:01 | wodz | most of my rockboxed targets are broken so I must hack something :-) |
| 12:51:06 | JdGordon | it would make more sense to use jpg instead of png, at least we dont need to add code for that |
| 12:52:08 | JdGordon | well if you're bored.... want to play with buffering/playback? :D |
| 12:52:35 | wodz | jpg would have unpleasant visual effects with sharp objects like lines etc |
| 12:54:45 | JdGordon | why? |
| 12:56:09 | wodz | Simply make black line on white background and save it as jpg. You will see that around edge there is 'noise' comming from the fundamental way jpg is compressed |
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| 13:01:25 | JdGordon | just for shits n giggles... could the image codecs be put into seperate files and swapped out as needed like the audio ones? using the same buffer even? |
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| 13:05:33 | wodz | that's how it is proposed for imageviewer plugin by teru. He want to use overlay mechanism to load decoder when needed |
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| 13:08:46 | JdGordon | not as a plugin... in the core |
| 13:10:46 | soap | yes, wodz, jpg can be noisy - but that depends greatly on the situation and the compression settings. It need not be /visibly/ noisy. |
| 13:11:07 | soap | s/situation/image/ |
| 13:11:28 | wodz | sure |
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| 13:41:00 | JdGordon | does anyone remember any discussion about why we dont transparently open the right file in open() instead of getting the path before? |
| 13:41:39 | JdGordon | . /.rockbox is very very unlikely to be a real path on any OS |
| 13:42:07 | wodz | something is terribly broken - I just updated my MPIO to svn head and now it loads rb image ok, shows rockbox splash and turns off immediately without any notification. |
| 13:48:25 | JdGordon | ok, open() goes straight to the OS for RaaA builds, slightly annoying |
| 13:48:59 | gevaerts | JdGordon: there was some discussion, and IIRC kugel wanted to do it this way. I don't remember why |
| 13:49:33 | gevaerts | I think to avoid having to play tricks with wrappers and linkers |
| 13:50:21 | JdGordon | which happens anyway unless file.h isnt being included at all? |
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| 13:56:23 | kugel | JdGordon: why should we wrap open()? |
| 13:56:31 | linuxstb | JdGordon: It seems simpler to me for apps/ to know about the correct path, rather than relying on firmware/ translating it. And how would you handle files being in different places - i.e. not a single prefix? |
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| 13:57:08 | JdGordon | this get_user_file_path() is umm... quirky to say the least |
| 13:57:52 | JdGordon | linuxstb: same was as it is done now... ROCKBOX_LIB_PATH != ROCKBIX_DIR on RaaA |
| 13:58:10 | JdGordon | apps/ doesnt care where the files actually are, as long as they can be opened |
| 13:58:26 | JdGordon | doing this transparently in open() gives the individual port so much more flexibility |
| 13:58:51 | JdGordon | and 0 cost for normal builds |
| 13:58:58 | kugel | we wanted access to the full filesystem in raaa |
| 13:59:24 | JdGordon | it has it |
| 13:59:33 | JdGordon | /.rockbox/ will never be a valid directory |
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| 14:00:16 | JdGordon | in fact, we dont allow relative paths so ".rockbox/" would even be good enugh |
| 14:00:26 | kugel | you want a virtual .rockbox dir in the root? |
| 14:00:45 | JdGordon | yes, but not visible to the user |
| 14:01:00 | kugel | why not visible? |
| 14:01:24 | JdGordon | because they would see it in /home/user/.config/rockbox/blaa like normal |
| 14:01:59 | kugel | you can do this I guess, but does this work out in multi-user environments? |
| 14:02:47 | JdGordon | What I want is open(ROCKBOX_DIR "/somefile.blaa", O_CREAT); to be all the required apps/ code, open() would then see we are trying to open something in "/.rockbox" and see we need to have write access so it will open ~/.config./rockbox/somefile.blaa |
| 14:02:49 | JdGordon | of course |
| 14:02:52 | kugel | we install into /usr/local so that it's initially multi user compatible; created files go under the user's home dir |
| 14:03:34 | JdGordon | the actual file selection would be the same as svn, just that there would be no redundant call to get_user_file_path() |
| 14:04:32 | kugel | that would probably be nice (if you can get it to work) |
| 14:04:53 | kugel | open() is not wrapped because there's no need to, if you need to wrap it do it |
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| 14:06:00 | JdGordon | excellent |
| 14:08:37 | JdGordon | btw, the sim does this already anyway.. sort of |
| 14:08:39 | wodz | what is the function that display rockbox screen on startup? |
| 14:09:04 | wodz | I mean the spash |
| 14:09:05 | JdGordon | "static char buffer[MAX_PATH]; /* sufficiently big */" <- umm.. no it isnt! |
| 14:09:30 | kugel | JdGordon: the sim wraps all opens to the current dir which we don't want on raaa |
| 14:09:39 | JdGordon | wodz: show_logo() |
| 14:09:50 | JdGordon | kugel: I know, thats why I said sort of :) |
| 14:10:17 | wodz | thx |
| 14:10:32 | kugel | can you do it without such a static buffer, which isn't very thread safe? |
| 14:10:35 | JdGordon | opendir() admitadly can cause problems... |
| 14:10:47 | JdGordon | that paste was from svn code |
| 14:13:00 | JdGordon | opendir() I think needs to always load the writeable filesystem. I don't think it would ever make sense to load /.rockbox instead of actually loading a file except when we want to generate a filename which means we are writing |
| 14:15:17 | kugel | uhm no |
| 14:15:26 | JdGordon | oh? |
| 14:15:38 | kugel | if there's no themes installed in the user dir, then we load the themes from the installation dir which is not writable |
| 14:15:41 | JdGordon | *outside of the browser* |
| 14:15:47 | kugel | and browsing them is only an opendir |
| 14:16:57 | kugel | the same applies to codecs and plugins which are always in the installation dir |
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| 14:23:37 | JdGordon | http://pastebin.com/yN07Ts3b works fine apart from "no .rockbox dir" splash because opendir() isnt done |
| 14:26:59 | JdGordon | get_user_file_path() needs to call real open() instead of sim_open() but yes that works perfectly |
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| 14:27:08 | JdGordon | opening: /.rockbox/backdrops/cabbiev2.bmp |
| 14:27:08 | JdGordon | opening: /home/jonno/.config/rockbox.org/backdrops/cabbiev2.bmp |
| 14:27:22 | JdGordon | opening: /.rockbox/database_idx.tcd |
| 14:27:22 | JdGordon | opening: /home/jonno/.config/rockbox.org/database_idx.tcd |
| 14:27:23 | JdGordon | opening: /usr/local/share/rockbox/database_idx.tcd |
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| 14:28:13 | kugel | it opens database_idx.tcd twice? |
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| 14:28:54 | JdGordon | no, each open() does a printf.. because get_user_file_path() calls file_exists() which calls open() it shows 3 printfs |
| 14:29:01 | Stummi | maybe it means "try to open..."? |
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| 14:29:24 | JdGordon | in the not-proof-of-concept patch it would call os open() not the open wrapper |
| 14:29:35 | tmzt_ | could just say stating |
| 14:29:55 | JdGordon | that was just to prove that the code worked... it wont last long |
| 14:38:24 | JdGordon | writing to /.rockbox/themes/theme01.cfg fails if ~/.config/rockbox/themes doesnt exist :/ (problem in svn also) |
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| 14:57:15 | Sudos|C840 | Just noticed something. I have a 3rd-gen iPod 10GB, Rockbox identifies it as an MK1504GAL, which is listed as a 15GB drive. Partition table also sees it as a 10GB drive with the usual 39MB of unallocated space in the front of the data partition. |
| 14:58:23 | Sudos|C840 | I'm about to crack it open to confirm. |
| 14:58:47 | gevaerts | What does dmesg say? |
| 14:59:30 | Sudos|C840 | not a thing- I have a Windows machine :/ |
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| 15:00:32 | gevaerts | right, then what do Windows looking-at-disks tools say? |
| 15:01:13 | Sudos|C840 | exactly as I said - reports as a 10GB drive. |
| 15:01:21 | Sudos|C840 | I cracked it open- it IS a 10GB drive. |
| 15:01:31 | Sudos|C840 | and it's been replaced? oh wonderful. |
| 15:02:45 | gevaerts | There being a 10GB partition doesn't mean it's a 10GB drive |
| 15:03:05 | gevaerts | And if rockbox says it's a MK1504GAL, it's because the drive says it's a MK1504GAL |
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| 15:04:04 | Sudos|C840 | yeah, but I wanted to make sure it wasn't a 15GB as the somewhat-unupdated Wiki states. |
| 15:04:32 | Sudos|C840 | it's an actual 10GB drive as printed on the label, and the serial number checks out with Toshiba. |
| 15:05:03 | Torne | model numbers don't always iomply a single size |
| 15:05:27 | Torne | lots of drive models come in more than one capacity |
| 15:05:45 | Sudos|C840 | yeah, but usually manufacturers will have at least one or two numbers different to derive sizes. was just a surprise to me is all. |
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| 15:08:36 | Sudos|C840 | I bought this thing used off eBay like last week solely to use Rockbox on it - already I've found out a great deal of information on the device's life. |
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| 15:09:23 | Sudos|C840 | another reason to check is because the stock firmware and the chrome shell give off two different serial numbers from both different revisions of this particular generation model. |
| 15:09:34 | Sudos|C840 | so, thanks for that. |
| 15:09:36 | Sudos|C840 | :D |
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| 15:12:51 | CIA-7 | New commit by wodz (r28304): MPIO HD200 - fix stupid typo introduced in r28270 which forced device hard shutdown during boot. |
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| 15:14:33 | CIA-7 | r28304 build result: All green |
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| 15:18:44 | webguest60 | im trying to get my lrc files in the right directory so that lrcplayer can play them automatically when i run lrcplayer |
| 15:18:57 | webguest60 | the directory specified in the manual doesnt seem to be correct, however |
| 15:19:57 | webguest60 | anybody know what the correct directory should be? |
| 15:20:01 | teru | where did you put the lrc file? |
| 15:21:17 | webguest60 | \/lyrics/music/artist/song.lrc |
| 15:21:29 | webguest60 | ignore the first backslash... |
| 15:23:35 | webguest60 | i tried /lyrics/musics/artist/song.lrc after that |
| 15:23:37 | webguest60 | didnt work either |
| 15:25:47 | teru | music/artist/song part must be repalaced by actual path of the music file. |
| 15:27:02 | webguest60 | oh |
| 15:27:37 | webguest60 | basically i have to have the structure as my actual music folder, but just with a lyrics folder above it? |
| 15:27:47 | teru | if the full path of music file is /ABBA/Greatest Hits/Gimme! Gimme! Gimme!.mp3, then relevant lrc file will be /Lyrics/ABBA/Greatest Hits/Gimme! Gimme! Gimme!.lrc |
| 15:28:00 | teru | you are right. |
| 15:29:31 | webguest60 | argh, ok. so the manual is wrong when it says that it searches for /Lyrics/Musics/Artist/Title.ext? |
| 15:30:25 | gevaerts | Well, the manually doesn't really say that |
| 15:30:33 | gevaerts | "If the audio file currently playing is /Music/Artist/Album/Title.mp3, then the following files will be searched for..." |
| 15:30:44 | gevaerts | That's not unimportant :) |
| 15:31:13 | gevaerts | But yes, it could probably be clarified |
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| 15:31:41 | webguest60 | alright. thanks. |
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| 15:42:24 | nerdy_kid | hello, I have a sansa e200v2 that has the issue described here:http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=25807.0. How does one downgrade the bootloader? I downloaded the 3.5.1 rockbox zip but dont see it. Thanks. |
| 15:44:05 | nerdy_kid | is the bootloader rockbox.sansa? |
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| 15:44:33 | gevaerts | no |
| 15:45:00 | gevaerts | The bootloader is a separate download, it's not packaged in the main rockbox.zip |
| 15:45:34 | gevaerts | It should be somewhere on http://download.rockbox.org/bootloader/ |
| 15:46:08 | gevaerts | Possibly you just want an older mkamsboot, I'm not entirely sure |
| 15:46:34 | nerdy_kid | gevaerts thanks, i had found that but it seems to be all current versions. I need an old one (at least the thread said I need an old one) |
| 15:48:04 | gevaerts | nerdy_kid: I'm pretty sure now that you actually can use a current bootloader, you just need to use an older mkamsboot, and those are there |
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| 15:49:20 | nerdy_kid | gevaerts ok, now I have mkamsboot 1.4? (so i should get 1.3) |
| 15:50:09 | gevaerts | I think so, yes |
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| 15:50:38 | nerdy_kid | gevaerts thanks :) I'll give it a shot |
| 15:51:39 | gevaerts | nerdy_kid: oh, did you use rbutil to install, or did you use mkamsboot by hand? |
| 15:52:40 | nerdy_kid | gevaerts I used the install utility. |
| 15:52:45 | gevaerts | ok |
| 15:52:55 | nerdy_kid | yeah the newbie way ;) |
| 15:52:57 | gevaerts | I suspect mkamsboot 1.4 will work fine as well |
| 15:53:09 | gevaerts | It's just that rockbox utility is even newer... |
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| 16:02:03 | nerdy_kid | gevaerts sweet that worked thanks. It wont mount in Linux though −− usb 2-2: device descriptor read/64, error -110 in syslogs |
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| 16:02:48 | gevaerts | nerdy_kid: you're using the 3.6 release? |
| 16:02:55 | nerdy_kid | yes |
| 16:03:17 | gevaerts | That should reboot to the original firmware on USB connect I think |
| 16:03:52 | gevaerts | yes |
| 16:04:16 | nerdy_kid | that seems to be the only way to get it to work, but I was hoping to have rockbox's usb support working. It supposidly works for the e200v2. |
| 16:04:37 | gevaerts | yes, but not in 3.6. You need a current build for that |
| 16:05:37 | nerdy_kid | gevaerts ah ok. Well I will just wait till 3.7 then, I tried a recent build and it was busted bad. Thanks for all your help :) |
| 16:06:35 | gevaerts | What was the problem? FS #11608? |
| 16:06:48 | gevaerts | If it was something else, we'd like to know... |
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| 16:08:53 | nerdy_kid | gevaerts I am new with rockbox so I dont know the current bugs, but with the recent build I tried the theme was mangled −− empty boxes where buttons should've been −− quite nasty looking. |
| 16:09:15 | gevaerts | nerdy_kid: with the default theme? |
| 16:09:48 | nerdy_kid | gevaerts not with the default theme actually, but with every other one that i tried. all the others work fine on 3.6. |
| 16:10:06 | gevaerts | right |
| 16:10:15 | gevaerts | The theme format changed after 3.6 |
| 16:10:44 | gevaerts | So unless you also use updated themes, you'll have problems |
| 16:11:07 | nerdy_kid | ok that would explain it. so not a bug then. |
| 16:11:35 | nerdy_kid | well; maybe I will try fishing for updated themes and update rockbox then. |
| 16:11:53 | nerdy_kid | just one theme that i really like anyway. thanks for all your help! |
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| 16:18:59 | wodz | what (in theory) is needed to port C++ app to rockbox? |
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| 16:22:58 | Stummi | wodz, hm. A big portion of masochism? ;) |
| 16:23:34 | saratoga | c++ library stuff i guess |
| 16:24:05 | saratoga | Buschel: (for the logs) I want to ask you about the synth_full function in libmad which does the subband decoding |
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| 16:24:38 | saratoga | i have various questions about what its doing algorithmically, but what i want to do is rewrite it to use the ARMv5E and ARMv6 packed mul instructions to accelerate it |
| 16:25:04 | saratoga | looking at the pipelining on ARM11, i think we could probably get something like a factor of 2 speed up |
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| 16:29:03 | kugel | wodz: I guess it depends on how much the app depends on libstdc++ |
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| 16:30:38 | linuxstb | wodz: Converting to C is the best way... I did that with pacbox. |
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| 16:32:27 | kugel | saratoga: that would be nice (2x speedup) |
| 16:32:35 | wodz | I was dreaming about scummvm on rockbox but I think it is out of my possibilities |
| 16:32:52 | kugel | libmad is dead slow compared to other codecs |
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| 16:33:19 | saratoga | mp3 is dead slow compared to other codecs |
| 16:33:25 | saratoga | stupid mpeg jerks |
| 16:34:11 | saratoga | but i think it could be made a lot faster if ARM11 and Cortex versions of its functions were written |
| 16:35:00 | kugel | btw, IIRC vlc has got some arm neon mdcts or something during gsoc |
| 16:35:12 | kugel | you seem to be interested in neon |
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| 16:35:18 | belak | Ok, I just flashed rockbox to my sansa fuze v1 and the main firmware will not boot up... so I can't connect with usb... any ideas? I can plug in the cord and it'll charge but then it gets stuck in rockbox rebooting over and over |
| 16:36:19 | Stummi | belak, do you the cable pluged in where the player is on or off? |
| 16:36:32 | belak | I've tried both |
| 16:36:58 | gevaerts | belak: hold the appropriate button while booting to get to the original firmware |
| 16:37:04 | Stummi | belak, which build? |
| 16:37:22 | belak | Stummi: 3.6 |
| 16:37:58 | saratoga | either update (so you get rockbox USB), or manually boot the sansa firmware before using USB |
| 16:38:05 | Stummi | belak, turn the player off, press and hold the left-button and turn it on while holding this button. Does this work? |
| 16:38:17 | gevaerts | belak: the manual should tell you which button that is. Then either install a current build (instead of 3.7), or reinstall the bootloader following the manual installation procedure instead of rockbox utility |
| 16:38:24 | belak | THANK YOU |
| 16:38:27 | belak | Stummi: yes |
| 16:38:43 | Stummi | hm, np |
| 16:38:55 | gevaerts | saratoga: I discovered now that the issue actually is that mkamsboot was updated, not the actual bootloader, and rbutil uses the new code while released mkamsboot doesn't... |
| 16:38:58 | saratoga | kugel: yes neon looks cool, do you have a link for what they added? |
| 16:39:05 | gevaerts | So it's a bit different than we assumed |
| 16:39:11 | Stummi | however, this should not happen. USB-Support ist turned off in the build for the fuze |
| 16:39:15 | saratoga | heh weird |
| 16:39:38 | Stummi | but i only have sansa fuze v2. |
| 16:39:47 | gevaerts | Stummi: it's enabled on current builds on the v1 |
| 16:40:02 | kugel | no, I randomly stumbled upon this in a google result but I don't know what I searched for anymore |
| 16:40:05 | belak | gevaerts: well, not on 3.6 |
| 16:40:12 | gevaerts | belak: I know that :) |
| 16:40:27 | saratoga | yeah 3.6 doesn't have it, mostly because we're too lazy to release 3.7 so the last release is quite old |
| 16:40:40 | Stummi | hehe |
| 16:40:55 | belak | nice |
| 16:41:06 | gevaerts | We should have 3.7 soon now though |
| 16:41:20 | saratoga | did anyone see the discussion last night about having a blog for the site |
| 16:41:25 | Stummi | you know the magic sentence: "use current svn version" :) |
| 16:41:38 | belak | Didn't use the svn version... |
| 16:41:45 | belak | Thought it would be too risky |
| 16:41:56 | gevaerts | Stummi: yes, that's the one we want to get rid of |
| 16:42:27 | Stummi | belak, svn version is quite stable in most case |
| 16:43:20 | saratoga | the svn version is generally at least as good as the release version ;) |
| 16:43:37 | belak | Unless it doesn't work and bricks on firmware updae |
| 16:43:37 | Stummi | :D |
| 16:43:39 | saratoga | since we keep breaking the release versions! |
| 16:43:41 | belak | *update |
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| 17:22:41 | fragilematter | hello everyone |
| 17:22:56 | fragilematter | saratoga: ping |
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| 17:31:22 | saratoga | fragilematter: pong |
| 17:31:48 | fragilematter | I'm now rolling out a build with test_disk included |
| 17:32:41 | fragilematter | the weird thing is: |
| 17:33:16 | fragilematter | when I run test_codec against an mp3 file, it appears to finish successfully, but I can't get the wav file to play |
| 17:34:09 | saratoga | try importing the wav file as a RAW file |
| 17:34:13 | saratoga | it may just have a bad header |
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| 17:38:20 | fragilematter | okay, I found no way to get vlc to import it as such, but I encoded it to ogg :)) |
| 17:38:51 | fragilematter | and it does play back, with some minor clicking and skipping |
| 17:39:21 | saratoga | better or worse then listening to it on the device? |
| 17:39:39 | fragilematter | on the device there's no skipping |
| 17:40:03 | saratoga | so its not the audio driver then |
| 17:40:04 | fragilematter | about the clicking... I'll need to see how it performs on these more sensitive headphones |
| 17:40:39 | fragilematter | in the mean time I'm still compiling that build... slow processor :( |
| 17:40:40 | saratoga | i usually just listen to the difference between a version decoded on PC and version decoded in rockbox |
| 17:40:52 | saratoga | makes it very easy to see if anything went wrong since you'll get silence normally |
| 17:41:39 | fragilematter | the source mp3 is ok, I'll check it one more time when I hook up the sansa to dump the new build on it |
| 17:41:51 | saratoga | did test_disk work ok? |
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| 17:42:35 | fragilematter | it's still compiling :) |
| 17:43:03 | saratoga | be neat to know if the problem is the disk or memory |
| 17:43:33 | saratoga | if the codec loads at all some kind of memory corruption seems more likely |
| 17:44:16 | fragilematter | I still can't figure out why, at least on my player, the vorbis codec seems to be the only one triggering it |
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| 17:50:08 | saratoga | maybe some specific block of memory gets corrupted and that block is only really important for vorbis |
| 17:51:19 | fragilematter | okay, got the build on the player, also did an extra fsck which showed no errors |
| 17:51:50 | fragilematter | test_disk -> write & verify? |
| 17:52:02 | saratoga | yeah |
| 17:52:40 | fragilematter | started it, cpu unboosted |
| 17:57:26 | fragilematter | now comparing... |
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| 18:00:40 | fragilematter | it passed |
| 18:02:00 | fragilematter | I've boosted the cpu and started another test run |
| 18:05:43 | n1s | could it have anything to do with the actual switching? vorbis is quite a bit slower than mp3 on amsv1 so it probably boosts more often than mp3 (if mp3 needs to boost at all) |
| 18:07:11 | fragilematter | n1s shouldn't a 48khz 320kbps mp3 make it more prone to misbehaving, should that be the case? |
| 18:07:22 | saratoga | vorbis is faster then mp3 on amsv1 |
| 18:07:36 | saratoga | and forcing boosting doesn't seem to make it better or worse |
| 18:08:17 | fragilematter | test_disk passed when boosted too |
| 18:08:18 | saratoga | oh huh they're almost exactly the same speed |
| 18:08:46 | n1s | fragilematter: maybe, if that causes it to boost |
| 18:08:51 | saratoga | that looks wrong to me, something is probably slowing down vorbis since its faster on ARM9E and ARM7, it should be faster on ARM9 too |
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| 18:09:13 | saratoga | neither one will boost, the low clock on AMSv1 is way too high for that to ever happen |
| 18:09:21 | n1s | saratoga: according to CodecPerformanceComparison mp3 is faster than vorbis but the mp3 numbers look weird since 320kbps is the fastest |
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| 18:10:15 | n1s | the force boost point is very valid though |
| 18:11:16 | saratoga | all the mp3 results on the test codec page that are below 35mhz for AMSv1 are wrong |
| 18:11:32 | saratoga | its about 38-39MHz for both mp3 and vorbis |
| 18:11:37 | saratoga | not sure what happened with those results |
| 18:12:28 | saratoga | test_codec on amsv1 probably gives unrealistic results in general since the boosted performance will be much different then unboosted performance, and most codecs will never boost |
| 18:12:43 | saratoga | to be accurate boosting should be disabled so that it tests the more realistic case |
| 18:13:09 | n1s | yes, the beast has the same problem, it clocks up to the max freq when running test_codec now |
| 18:13:26 | saratoga | if it didn't take forever, i'd suggest decoding each file twice, once boosted and once unboosted |
| 18:13:59 | saratoga | we picked too long a test track |
| 18:14:04 | saratoga | 30 seconds would have been a lot better |
| 18:14:32 | n1s | indeed |
| 18:15:01 | n1s | also we have too many different bitrates for most lossy codecs IMO |
| 18:15:02 | saratoga | i guess test codec could be changed to have another option where it decodes just the first 30 seconds and does so unboosted |
| 18:15:07 | saratoga | that too |
| 18:15:25 | saratoga | but people are welcome to skip some bitrates if they like |
| 18:15:59 | saratoga | i still think something is wrong with memory/clocking on AMSv1 |
| 18:16:05 | saratoga | maybe this bug will shed some light on that problem |
| 18:16:48 | fragilematter | saratoga: there may be something with switching, tho |
| 18:16:59 | fragilematter | I've played back an mp3, carefully listening |
| 18:16:59 | saratoga | i don't think its related to switching |
| 18:17:10 | saratoga | since if you disable boosting the problem doesn't go away |
| 18:17:19 | fragilematter | during the first few seconds, I can hear distinct clicking in the left channel |
| 18:17:19 | n1s | saratoga: do you know if anyone disassembled the OF enough to know how it sets up clocks? |
| 18:17:22 | fragilematter | and then it stops |
| 18:17:40 | fragilematter | I'll try boosted to see if it makes any difference |
| 18:17:42 | saratoga | n1s: funman looked at it in some detail, and another person on the mailing list dumped many of its registers via jtag |
| 18:18:17 | n1s | aha |
| 18:18:18 | saratoga | but we could easily be missing something like the ipod nano 1G's "don't behave strangely above 64MHz bit" |
| 18:18:46 | n1s | right |
| 18:19:11 | fragilematter | nope,same thing |
| 18:19:13 | saratoga | i suspect something is wrong with the memory bus, since both the 1T internal DRAM and the external SDRAM have nearly identical performance, which suggests that something in between the memory and the L1 is stalling |
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| 18:26:13 | fragilematter | saratoga: mp3, as coped from device: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/389421/03%20-%20Satellite.mp3 |
| 18:26:37 | fragilematter | played back and recorded from the output: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/389421/device_mp3_playback.ogg |
| 18:26:50 | fragilematter | notice the subtle clicking on the left channel at the beginning |
| 18:27:16 | fragilematter | test codec on the same file, wav encoded to ogg q7 - http://dl.dropbox.com/u/389421/test_codec_mp3.ogg |
| 18:27:21 | fragilematter | same clicking |
| 18:27:45 | fragilematter | and test_codec on the ogg still results in a divide by zero at 30687778 |
| 18:28:48 | fragilematter | and I've listened to that track so many times that I'm fed up with it, even though I downloaded it from jamendo two days ago |
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| 18:31:09 | knittl | any server/repo admins here? you broke git-svn gateway again :D |
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| 18:40:38 | kugel | saratoga: I think I tested iram&ram with test_mem.rock, iram was ~50% faster when boosted but the same when unboosted |
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| 18:50:40 | saratoga | that doesn't really make sense since IRAM runs at PCLK and thus doesn't boost |
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| 18:51:19 | knittl | hey saratoga, kugel: do you guys know a serveradmin with access to the svn repo? |
| 18:51:33 | kugel | knittl: what's wrong? |
| 18:52:22 | kugel | git-svn is working for me |
| 18:53:34 | kugel | saratoga: I'm fairly sure that were the results |
| 18:53:58 | saratoga | yeah i don't doubt that |
| 18:54:03 | saratoga | i just don't think it makes sense :) |
| 18:54:14 | knittl | kugel: yeah, but the git mirror is wrong |
| 18:54:29 | kugel | WFM |
| 18:54:30 | knittl | so trunk != origin/master |
| 18:54:52 | kugel | what is it then? |
| 18:54:58 | knittl | you had that problem once already |
| 18:55:10 | kugel | right |
| 18:55:10 | knittl | it looks like an svn commit was edited |
| 18:56:03 | kugel | you need to git svn reset to that edited commit locally (IIRC) |
| 18:56:21 | knittl | i've reset master to remotes/git-svn |
| 18:56:31 | knittl | the next pull will create a merge commit again |
| 18:56:36 | knittl | (trees are the same though) |
| 18:56:50 | kugel | it does fast-forward here so the mirror is not wrong I'd say |
| 18:57:21 | knittl | hm. strange. |
| 18:58:23 | knittl | gimme a sec |
| 18:58:23 | kugel | git cherry master origin/master shows you the first different commit, you need to hard reset to that and svn reset to the corresponding svn revision |
| 18:59:07 | knittl | i used merge-base ;) but it should be the same commit |
| 18:59:30 | * | kugel doesn't know about merge-base |
| 18:59:45 | knittl | but i think master compares trees rather than commit ids |
| 18:59:52 | knittl | s/master/cherry/ |
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| 19:00:40 | knittl | $ g rev-parse origin/master remotes/git-svn |
| 19:00:40 | knittl | fe626aee58e940ac370c4a1e482e9737a4b3dd76 |
| 19:00:40 | knittl | 3bfda1002bc996e10a3b4006b93afdf1dd8cbd10 |
| 19:02:20 | knittl | i have "Merge branch 'startfolder'" (64d420e83) in origin/master which is not in remotes/git-svn |
| 19:02:51 | kugel | that commit has been edited yes |
| 19:03:02 | knittl | it's still in the git mirror |
| 19:03:11 | knittl | origin/master does not lie ;) |
| 19:03:28 | kugel | and why does git svn rebase work just fine for me? |
| 19:03:31 | knittl | can you run rev-parse on your side? |
| 19:03:40 | knittl | git svn rebase works fine |
| 19:03:52 | knittl | but git pull does not |
| 19:04:00 | knittl | well, it work fine, but it creates bogus history |
| 19:04:00 | kugel | both work fine for me |
| 19:04:17 | knittl | the mirror is not a mirror but an alternate reality ^^ |
| 19:04:31 | kugel | my update command is "git pull −−ff-only && git svn rebase" which doesn't allow messing up the history |
| 19:04:53 | knittl | i use git svn rebase first, coz otherwise you will pull history twice |
| 19:05:08 | knittl | can you run git rev-parse origin/master remotes/git-svn |
| 19:05:36 | kugel | $ git rev-parse origin/master remotes/git-svn |
| 19:05:36 | kugel | fe626aee58e940ac370c4a1e482e9737a4b3dd76 |
| 19:05:36 | kugel | fe626aee58e940ac370c4a1e482e9737a4b3dd76 |
| 19:05:42 | knittl | wooot oO |
| 19:06:06 | knittl | ha. i know why yours show both the same |
| 19:06:17 | knittl | you rebased when the commit still was not edited |
| 19:06:27 | knittl | so you have the same version as the git mirror |
| 19:06:30 | knittl | i only rebase from time to time |
| 19:06:34 | kugel | but I do have the "Merge branch 'startfolder'" one in my master |
| 19:06:43 | knittl | kugel: yes, and that commit is wrong |
| 19:07:00 | kugel | I see |
| 19:07:02 | knittl | it should be "New setting to control the file browser start location." |
| 19:07:50 | knittl | try it. git svn reset 28200 && git svn rebase |
| 19:07:57 | knittl | you will then have diverging heads |
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| 19:08:12 | kugel | no thanks, I'll with that until Zagor confirms that he fixed it :) |
| 19:08:30 | knittl | ah yeah zagor. i've walked him through fixing it the last time |
| 19:08:34 | kugel | (and that he hopefully disables post-editing ci messages again) |
| 19:08:42 | knittl | although i did not know about git svn reset. that will make everything _very_ easy |
| 19:08:55 | knittl | how is that even possible with svn? |
| 19:09:11 | kugel | rev-props |
| 19:09:13 | knittl | i thought you needed svn-dump/admin/filter the repo for that? |
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| 19:09:56 | knittl | ah ok. i'm happy i don't have to use 'real' svn any longer |
| 19:10:20 | knittl | who needs repo integrity after all? :) |
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| 19:12:19 | knittl | when is zargor usually around? |
| 19:18:28 | AlexP | "Zagor" |
| 19:18:28 | AlexP | He's in Sweden, so on and off european daytime/evening |
| 19:18:28 | knittl | 'zagor'. sorry. my timezone, good |
| 19:18:28 | AlexP | I only mention the spelling so that he sees that you want him :) |
| 19:18:28 | knittl | he's not online, so hilighting won't work ^^ thanks anyway |
| 19:18:53 | AlexP | indeed, but there are logs |
| 19:18:58 | AlexP | And lots of devs scan them |
| 19:19:10 | saratoga | just because you don't see someone doesn't mean they aren't watching |
| 19:19:21 | knittl | ok |
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| 19:24:25 | kugel | do we accept ruby files in our repo? |
| 19:24:46 | AlexP | I can't see why not if it is related :) |
| 19:24:57 | AlexP | Not if you just want to add random stuff you found :) |
| 19:25:11 | kugel | I've coded a somewhat better parse_testcodec than the one in svn but I've written it in ruby (which isn't as established as perl or python) |
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| 19:25:56 | knittl | diaspora uses ruby xD |
| 19:26:48 | gevaerts | so? |
| 19:26:59 | knittl | just saying |
| 19:27:21 | rasher | If we have python already, I'd say ruby is acceptable as well. As long as it's just a peripheral script like that |
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| 19:35:46 | saratoga | better then my script ? ;) |
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| 19:38:15 | pixelma | how should that work? ;) |
| 19:38:53 | gevaerts | saratoga: you mean you're *really* a bot? :) |
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| 20:36:26 | saratoga | some kind of automatic release system might be neat, just have a script branch every 3 months, then we try and backport any major bug fixes, and then after a week or two, the branch becomes a release |
| 20:36:51 | saratoga | skip the feature freeze, do point releases after each release when bugs are fixed |
| 20:38:41 | wodz | are there more detiled instructions how to profile something in rockbox than http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SourceProfiling? |
| 20:39:12 | saratoga | i don't think so |
| 20:39:25 | saratoga | basically everytime you want to profile you have to figure out what broke profiling this time |
| 20:39:43 | saratoga | stripwax has done it recently though, so you could ask him |
| 20:41:12 | wodz | but what is general scheme? 1) I have to have profile build and than what? |
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| 20:41:54 | saratoga | you compile a profile build, then you add those two functions around the code you want to profile |
| 20:42:13 | saratoga | additionally you'll probably want to disabling at least some inlines, because those will make it harder to profile |
| 20:42:18 | saratoga | disable |
| 20:42:57 | wodz | you mean profile_thread() <some block of code> profstop() ? |
| 20:43:04 | saratoga | yeah |
| 20:43:13 | wodz | does it work in sim too? |
| 20:43:18 | saratoga | around then you realize it probably doesn't compile :) |
| 20:43:31 | saratoga | i think so, but profiling on PC is probably not so useful |
| 20:43:47 | wodz | I mean only to get familiar with this |
| 20:44:08 | saratoga | i can't think of any reason it shouldn't, but you'd have to try |
| 20:44:26 | wodz | thanks |
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| 20:45:42 | retroj | hello. does rockbox provide any way to emulate symlinks on fat32? this would really make my day :) |
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| 20:46:53 | wodz | fat32 does not support symlinks so no |
| 20:47:18 | retroj | hence my saying emulate.. a file type which rockbox would recognize as a redirect |
| 20:47:59 | gevaerts | retroj: depends on what exactly you want |
| 20:48:33 | gevaerts | We have a shortcut feature that may be helpful. See the manual for details (I never used it...) |
| 20:48:35 | * | TheSeven wonders if there are any big differences between usb2 and usb1.1 |
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| 20:48:54 | gevaerts | TheSeven: what sort of differences? |
| 20:50:05 | retroj | gevaerts: okay, thanks for the tip.. i'll see if that answers my question |
| 20:50:05 | gevaerts | retroj: it should at least answer your question. Whether they do what you want is something else though :) |
| 20:50:05 | TheSeven | no idea... my post-mortem memory dumper works on usb1.1 but not on usb2 when running from a panic handler, even though i wrote it for usb2-only |
| 20:50:05 | retroj | gevaerts: ha |
| 20:50:05 | gevaerts | TheSeven: packet size? |
| 20:50:05 | TheSeven | so i used 0x200 maxpackets everywhere and transfer sizes of up to 256K |
| 20:50:10 | gevaerts | hm |
| 20:50:18 | TheSeven | except for the control ep of course which is at 0x40 |
| 20:50:27 | gevaerts | 512 byte packets shouldn't work on full speed... |
| 20:50:32 | gevaerts | transfer sizes don't matter |
| 20:50:32 | TheSeven | on usb1.1, everything works fine, even the 256K transfers |
| 20:50:37 | retroj | looks like it is what i hoped for. thank you |
| 20:50:45 | TheSeven | transfer sizes do matter because i might overflow a register in the usb core |
| 20:50:56 | TheSeven | on usb2, enumerations fails |
| 20:51:02 | gevaerts | well, maybe, but usb doesn't care |
| 20:51:22 | gevaerts | ah, so the host doesn't like your descriptors? |
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| 20:52:04 | gevaerts | Do you have the output of lsusb -v of the device? |
| 20:52:55 | TheSeven | on usb1? |
| 20:53:00 | gevaerts | either |
| 20:53:05 | TheSeven | let me obtain that... |
| 20:53:06 | gevaerts | well, both, if possible |
| 20:53:28 | TheSeven | well, usb2 doesn't enumerate when booted through a panic. it works flawlessly when just uploaded as a firmware |
| 20:53:51 | gevaerts | What does "doesn't enumerate" mean though? |
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| 20:55:34 | CIA-7 | New commit by kugel (r28305): Replace parse_testcodec.pl with a bit more powerful script. ... |
| 20:56:28 | TheSeven | usb1.1 box, booted through a panic: http://pastie.org/1230590 |
| 20:57:13 | TheSeven | gevaerts: "doesn't enumerate" = windows doesn't even detect that something is plugged, linux fails with -110 for the first device descriptor and -71 for the retries |
| 20:57:25 | CIA-7 | r28305 build result: All green |
| 20:57:36 | TheSeven | the device in question is Bus 002 Device 004: ID ffff:a112 |
| 20:58:26 | TheSeven | the kernel doesn't complain about the maxpacket. dmesg output: |
| 20:58:27 | TheSeven | [ 86.924042] usb 2-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 4 |
| 20:58:27 | TheSeven | [ 87.093154] usb 2-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice |
| 20:58:46 | gevaerts | The endpoint actually works? |
| 20:58:51 | TheSeven | yep |
| 20:59:06 | TheSeven | i haven't verified the data read, but i can do a quick check |
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| 21:00:32 | wodz | saratoga: you ware right - profiled build doesn't compile :/ |
| 21:01:01 | gevaerts | I'm surprised you can actually get 512 byte packets over a uhci controller |
| 21:01:28 | TheSeven | the dumped data appears to be sane |
| 21:03:02 | gevaerts | Anyway, if you get a timeout on descriptor read, it would seem that your controller isn't properly initialised or something like that |
| 21:03:42 | TheSeven | the fun fact is that this only happens if it both was booted through a panic and is connected to a usb2 device |
| 21:04:26 | TheSeven | if it's either connected to usb1 or booted directly without running rockbox before, it works just fine |
| 21:04:46 | TheSeven | and the usb initialization code is very similar to the code rockbox uses |
| 21:05:48 | wodz | hmm profiled target build do compile. Compiling profiled simulator fails |
| 21:07:32 | TheSeven | dmesg from a usb2 linux box: |
| 21:07:33 | TheSeven | usb 1-10: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 6 |
| 21:07:34 | TheSeven | usb 1-10: device descriptor read/all, error -110 |
| 21:07:34 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK TheSeven |
| 21:07:34 | TheSeven | usb 1-10: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 7 |
| 21:07:34 | TheSeven | usb 1-10: device descriptor read/64, error -71 |
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| 21:08:44 | TheSeven | uh oh |
| 21:09:05 | TheSeven | i just did a coldboot dump of the state after the stub was connected to usb2 windows or usb1 linux |
| 21:09:25 | TheSeven | in both dumps, the very kilobyte where the stub resides was trashed to all-0xff |
| 21:09:38 | TheSeven | the stub is running with all caches disabled |
| 21:09:51 | TheSeven | so i wonder how it can work on usb1, and who dares to overwrite it |
| 21:09:59 | gevaerts | I didn't do it! |
| 21:16:11 | TheSeven | hm, the 0xff thing might be a coldboot problem, it seems to appear randomly, independently of the pc it was connected to |
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| 21:30:56 | CIA-7 | New commit by b0hoon (r28306): HDD6330: Try to adapt the keys for the new touchpad code, remove the non existing buttons, enable morse input. |
| 21:32:43 | CIA-7 | r28306 build result: All green |
| 21:34:10 | saratoga | whats the deal with the hdd6330 |
| 21:34:18 | saratoga | is it almost unstable? |
| 21:35:18 | b0hoon | saratoga: i think it have to be in unusable state yet because of the lcd driver for example |
| 21:35:30 | saratoga | whats wrong with it? |
| 21:36:20 | b0hoon | it doesn't have power management at all and no lcd blit funcions |
| 21:36:32 | b0hoon | *functions |
| 21:37:18 | kugel | can it play music without regular crashes or risk to brick it? |
| 21:37:45 | b0hoon | yes. there is no problem with the playback |
| 21:37:55 | kugel | then it should be unstable IMO |
| 21:38:07 | b0hoon | and no risk of bricking it cause it's PP |
| 21:38:26 | saratoga | might as well bump it to unstable in hopes of getting other people interested in it |
| 21:38:41 | b0hoon | and there is no plugin keymaps |
| 21:38:55 | kugel | bad battery life or unimplemented features are a reason to not be stable but not for unusable |
| 21:41:08 | b0hoon | if so then maybe it is worth to jump with it to the unstable |
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| 21:43:20 | saratoga | maybe someone who wants to use plugins will add keymaps |
| 21:44:04 | b0hoon | yes, i must add the simulator for it... |
| 21:46:11 | saratoga | i wonder about the Onda too |
| 21:46:24 | saratoga | as I understand it, the main thing missing is the internal memory, but its working with SD |
| 21:47:06 | b0hoon | I don't know much about Onda but i would like to have one :) |
| 21:47:28 | b0hoon | A lots of toys! :) |
| 21:48:00 | b0hoon | *lot |
| 21:54:23 | CIA-7 | New commit by b0hoon (r28307): HDD6330: Patch to enable/disable backlight. ... |
| 21:55:59 | CIA-7 | r28307 build result: All green |
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| 22:00:33 | saratoga | b0hoon: whenever you want to make it unstable, i think you just need to update the front page via SVN, then ping one of the swedes with a bootloader and tell them to update the front page |
| 22:00:44 | saratoga | i guess install directions on the wiki too if you haven't already |
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| 22:06:01 | b0hoon | saratoga: ok thanks :) |
| 22:06:31 | b0hoon | aaa right - the bootloader... something is wrong with the OF loading yet |
| 22:16:45 | kugel | b0hoon: perhaps the backlight functions should be implemented in a seperate file if they completely ifdeffed |
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| 22:21:02 | b0hoon | kugel: yes, i thought about separating HDD1630 from HDD6330 code, in fact these devices are more different than similar |
| 22:21:15 | linuxstb | saratoga: Shouldn't that be in the reverse order? i.e. make the bootloader (and manual, if possible) available, then update the front page? |
| 22:21:36 | wodz | is it possible to derive .map file from .elf for plugin? |
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| 22:22:11 | b0hoon | linuxstb: yes, that would be the right order i think |
| 22:26:30 | linuxstb | b0hoon: When you release a bootloader, you should build it with a proper version number (e.g. 1.0) and then tag it in svn. See http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/UsingSVN#Tagging_releases |
| 22:27:30 | b0hoon | linuxstb: yep, i remember it from the vibe port :) |
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| 22:40:48 | wodz | well, this is definitely a bug - simulator doesn't compile with profiling 1) thread.c is not compiled where profile_thread() function is defined but thread-sdl.c instead 2) *.map files are not created when building simulator 3) something else is still wrong |
| 22:51:21 | knittl | hmm. zagor is still not here |
| 22:51:40 | kugel | 1 is not a bug (except that profile_thread() should be defined in thread-sdl.c or in a seperate file maybe) |
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| 22:56:00 | wodz | kugel: I just described the symptoms |
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| 23:12:06 | saratoga | the theme site needs a download button |
| 23:12:16 | saratoga | it took me too long to realize i need to click the picture |
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| 23:14:48 | saratoga | i grabbed a theme off the theme site, but it doesn't actually load with the latest build |
| 23:15:01 | saratoga | is this a problem with the theme or is that expected if i'm somehow doing something wrong |
| 23:15:42 | kugel | saratoga: there's a download button right below the picture |
| 23:16:13 | saratoga | kugel: not for me, at least on this theme: http://themes.rockbox.org/index.php?themeid=439&target=sansafuzev2 |
| 23:16:49 | kugel | the download button is on the overview, the page you linked is after you clicked on a picture the first time |
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| 23:17:20 | saratoga | ah you're right |
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| 23:17:26 | saratoga | still a download button there would be nice |
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| 23:20:50 | kugel | saratoga: so you clicked on the picture ones already, clicking it another time can't be that unnatural :P |
| 23:21:06 | saratoga | someone linked it to me asking why it doesn't work, so i didn't see the first page |
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| 23:22:21 | saratoga | huh loading the theme in the sim does the same thing as the fuze, but it gives no debug output saying it failed |
| 23:22:24 | saratoga | is that normal? |
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| 23:24:40 | kugel | it shouldn't behave differently |
| 23:25:33 | saratoga | i thought if it can't load a theme you get an error explaining what didn't parse? |
| 23:25:44 | S_a_i_n_t | saratoga: Debug output from the sim has been absent since the syntax/parser/skin-engine changeover. |
| 23:25:53 | saratoga | ah ok |
| 23:26:07 | S_a_i_n_t | I've mentioned it once or thrice to JdGordon. |
| 23:27:09 | S_a_i_n_t | He wants to get on-device debugging ifo going, and, what would indeed be cool but I've made it pretty clear I think simulator debug output is pretty important. |
| 23:27:18 | S_a_i_n_t | s/ifo/info/ |
| 23:28:36 | saratoga | i wonder why the theme site says the file works |
| 23:28:41 | saratoga | i thought we had automated checking |
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| 23:29:00 | S_a_i_n_t | what's the issue with the theme...I could have a look if you want. |
| 23:29:10 | saratoga | its the one i linked above |
| 23:29:11 | S_a_i_n_t | And, the themesite is pretty braindead really. |
| 23:29:14 | saratoga | it just doesn't load |
| 23:29:22 | saratoga | no idea whats wrong, someone reported it |
| 23:29:26 | S_a_i_n_t | The error checking is quite flawed, but works for the most part. |
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| 23:29:54 | S_a_i_n_t | saratoga: Which theme, you have a linky? |
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| 23:30:12 | saratoga | http://themes.rockbox.org/index.php?themeid=439&target=sansafuzev2 |
| 23:31:03 | S_a_i_n_t | Thanks, I'll have a look. |
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| 23:34:19 | S_a_i_n_t | saratoga: Are you loading it via the theme .cfg? |
| 23:34:30 | S_a_i_n_t | if you "run" the .wps, it should load. |
| 23:34:40 | saratoga | whats wrong with the cfg? |
| 23:34:47 | S_a_i_n_t | the theme .cfg is just warped...garbage. |
| 23:35:01 | S_a_i_n_t | the entire thing is "ÿþ#" |
| 23:35:15 | S_a_i_n_t | so, it's not exactly going to load.....anything ;) |
| 23:35:16 | saratoga | its fine for me |
| 23:35:20 | knittl | hey guys. one thing: my clock is broken |
| 23:35:25 | knittl | for a long time already |
| 23:35:25 | S_a_i_n_t | the .cfg? |
| 23:35:34 | knittl | it does not display the last digit |
| 23:35:45 | saratoga | yes, SIMPLE.cfg |
| 23:35:54 | knittl | i only see 20:3 |
| 23:36:02 | S_a_i_n_t | knittl: We need more info than that, what theme, what device, where is the clock you're talking about...etc. |
| 23:36:02 | knittl | and then the symbol for "disk-access"? |
| 23:36:07 | saratoga | probably a broken theme |
| 23:36:15 | saratoga | or a theme meant for a different font size |
| 23:36:18 | knittl | sansa e280v2 |
| 23:36:25 | knittl | the black and white theme |
| 23:36:30 | S_a_i_n_t | knittl: what theme? |
| 23:36:55 | knittl | just a sec |
| 23:37:13 | gevaerts | hm checkwps segfaults on that theme for me... |
| 23:37:26 | S_a_i_n_t | saratoga: You see the .cfg correctly? The theme editor and SCiTE are telling me it only consists of "ÿþ#" |
| 23:37:39 | gevaerts | and on others |
| 23:37:45 | knittl | grml, now i switched themes and cannot find it again … |
| 23:37:48 | saratoga | probably a busted zip program or download |
| 23:37:53 | saratoga | its just a normal text file |
| 23:37:55 | S_a_i_n_t | perhaps it downloaded incorrectly, but there's no errors in the archive. :/ |
| 23:38:08 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 23:38:08 | * | S_a_i_n_t tries again. |
| 23:38:19 | saratoga | http://pastebin.com/m4biqG8A |
| 23:38:23 | gevaerts | S_a_i_n_t: it seems to start with a BOM I think |
| 23:38:30 | gevaerts | oh, right, it's UTF16 |
| 23:38:34 | gevaerts | That won't work well |
| 23:38:48 | S_a_i_n_t | aha...no. |
| 23:39:01 | saratoga | so just the file encoding is wrong? |
| 23:39:14 | knittl | gaaah |
| 23:39:57 | gevaerts | S_a_i_n_t: yes, that seems to be it |
| 23:40:23 | S_a_i_n_t | saratoga: Does the .wps load on device if you run the .wps file from the filebrowser? |
| 23:40:41 | S_a_i_n_t | themeeditor says she's all good. |
| 23:41:06 | saratoga | fixing the encoding didn't fix the problem |
| 23:41:17 | knittl | ok, it's a cabbiev2 without backdrop |
| 23:41:38 | knittl | and classic_statusbar breaks it |
| 23:42:03 | gevaerts | checkwps seems to be broken |
| 23:42:08 | saratoga | yes the WPS seems to work fine |
| 23:42:13 | saratoga | but the cfg file does not |
| 23:42:18 | S_a_i_n_t | knittl: a screenshot would be nice, so I can see how far out the alignment is. |
| 23:42:27 | S_a_i_n_t | knittl: Do you know how to use screendump? |
| 23:42:35 | knittl | S_a_i_n_t: it's exactly one digit |
| 23:42:46 | knittl | and now my wps is different :-/ |
| 23:42:50 | knittl | hahaha, i fail |
| 23:43:17 | knittl | i'll use rockbox_none as base skin, that seems to fix it |
| 23:43:42 | saratoga | bah changing the encodings some more fixed it |
| 23:43:45 | S_a_i_n_t | knittl: I shall have a look at the problem later in the day, I'm a little busy right now but thanks for reporting it. |
| 23:43:59 | knittl | don't hurry :) |
| 23:44:49 | saratoga | i wonder how this config file ever worked if the encoding wasn't supported |
| 23:46:18 | S_a_i_n_t | Pass...maybe it works if the default codepage is changed? |
| 23:46:41 | S_a_i_n_t | the themeeditor sure as hell doesn't know what to do with it, that's for certain. |
| 23:46:54 | CIA-107 | New commit by gevaerts (r28308): checkwps: properly zero the wps struct to avoid interesting issues |
| 23:48:03 | saratoga | ok reported a link to the fixed theme |
| 23:48:07 | saratoga | hopefully someone will update that |
| 23:48:32 | CIA-107 | r28308 build result: All green |
| 23:48:47 | | Quit jgarvey (Quit: Leaving) |
| 23:49:22 | gevaerts | I guess the theme site code can handle utf16... |
| 23:49:50 | S_a_i_n_t | whwn it says "Simple"...it really means it, I was looking for the wpf folder with the additional images. |
| 23:49:56 | S_a_i_n_t | lols, facepalm. ;) |
| 23:50:22 | S_a_i_n_t | *when, *wps |
| 23:50:54 | | Quit benedikt93 (Quit: Bye ;)) |
| 23:53:22 | Sudos | Out of curiousity, is there a way to add a battery capacity to the list of such in the settings menu in Rockbox? |
| 23:53:34 | saratoga | yeah its in your devices's config file IIRC |
| 23:53:47 | Sudos | alright |
| 23:53:49 | saratoga | so /firmware/export/config, add it, and then compile |
| 23:54:23 | Sudos | heheh, it's been a while since I've had to compile- lemme see. |
| 23:54:24 | S_a_i_n_t | battery capacity should already be in the settings, shouldn't it? |
| 23:54:29 | Sudos | it is |
| 23:54:31 | S_a_i_n_t | Or is it not enabled for all targets? |
| 23:54:38 | Sudos | but for the iPod 3G it only goes up to 1200mAh |
| 23:54:45 | Sudos | I have a 1300mAh I dropped in. |
| 23:54:54 | | Quit captainkewllllll (Quit: Page closed) |
| 23:54:59 | saratoga | to be clear, you realize that only changes runtime estimation right? |
| 23:55:02 | gevaerts | I wouldn't be surprised if the runtime calculation on 3G is off anyway :) |
| 23:55:21 | Sudos | yeah, it's a buggy yet relatively stable build, gevaerts |
| 23:55:26 | saratoga | and if you change the battery, the runtime estimation doesn't work anyway until you recalibrate it |
| 23:55:35 | saratoga | oh wait no that last part is wrong |
| 23:55:41 | saratoga | i'm thinking of the battery meter, not runtime |
| 23:56:02 | | Quit _s1gma (Quit: Leaving) |
| 23:56:07 | S_a_i_n_t | install the dynamic runtime estimation patch ;) |
| 23:56:19 | gevaerts | Sudos: to be honest, for a an 8% difference, I wouldn't bother |
| 23:56:31 | Sudos | yeah, true |
| 23:56:38 | gevaerts | The estimate is going to be off by more than that |
| 23:56:44 | Sudos | probably |
| 23:56:54 | saratoga | you can't do dynamic estimation on old ipods |
| 23:57:06 | Sudos | I'm planning on doing a battery bench with it fully charged anyways, when it gets there |
| 23:57:22 | Sudos | just popped the battery in, but of a snug fit but it fit in |
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