#rockbox 2010-10-21

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#rockbox log for 2010-10-21

00:04:53	S_a_i_n_t	TheSeven: I've had a nosey at liar's new LCD sleep patch, which doesn't have the annoying fullscreen white flash on LCD init anymore...but I was rather amazed that it adds a full 10Kb to the bootloader, was wondering if you could have a look at it and see whether or not you think it could be condensed at all.
00:05:31	S_a_i_n_t	Maybe it's perfectly normal, but, for what it does...compared to the total size of the rest of the bootloader it seemed to be a hell of a jump to me.
00:05:45	S_a_i_n_t	It works fine though, tested on typre 1 and 7 LCD
00:05:55	S_a_i_n_t	*errr, type, rather
00:07:46	EvanCarroll	bertrik: cool deal, got it on there now, I'll get back to you with status tomorrow
00:08:09	bertrik	I hope it helps
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00:09:40	EvanCarroll	bertrik: I think it worked.
00:09:46	EvanCarroll	No pops thus far
00:09:54	EvanCarroll	it was pretty bad, in fact I played the same track
00:09:58	EvanCarroll	bertrik++ # success
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00:37:10	EvanCarroll	still working reat.
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01:05:11	confuseling	Re: previous comments concerning Clip+ keymap - I actually meant the recording screen keymap was a bit haywire. The radio was fine...
01:08:58	confuseling	Anyway, an update seems to have cured the oddness going on with 'short power', so I'd say provisionally the patch (#11605) is ready for testing. I don't read irc that often, so if you have any comments/suggestions please send them there. Thanks, and good luck with the new release.
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01:12:06	confuseling	(also should work for the Clip, hopefully...)
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02:12:31	[Saint]	JdGordon: Is there any chance that USB screen will get userfonts back in the future?
02:12:36	[Saint]	errr..near future?
02:12:44	JdGordon\|	unlikely
02:12:45	[Saint]	My .sbs looks like ASS with userfont :-/
02:12:59	[Saint]	And, everyone elses I suspect.
02:13:04	JdGordon\|	IIRC we worked out how to do it, just needs someone to go ahead and make the needed changes
02:13:17	JdGordon\|	go learn to code :D
02:13:48	[Saint]	Ahhh...right. I could fix it with a bitmap (and, lose translation though..but "meh") if %cs had a USB screen section.
02:14:13	[Saint]	And, I can code...but, hardly at a level to be useful for more than the odd fuckup I notice from time to time.
02:14:43	[Saint]	And, most of those get noticed and fixed in the course of me fixing them up on my end.
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02:15:23	JdGordon\|	I'm not sure we really want to be hitting the disk just before usb anyway
02:15:30	JdGordon\|	to do a big font load
02:15:55	[Saint]	Yeah, I'd considered that...but, if the font was already loaded would it make a difference?
02:16:28	[Saint]	That was one of the reasons I'd thought about doing it "on the cheap" with a bitmap though.
02:16:40	[Saint]	But there's no USB screen conditional to set it off.
02:19:03	JdGordon\|	that can be added
02:19:24	JdGordon\|	the problem is we have to make sure the entire font is in RAM, which means dumping and loading the full thing every time
02:19:36	JdGordon\|	and then unloading and reloading the small version on exit
02:19:37	[Saint]	That'd be nice.
02:19:42	[Saint]	(USB screen condition)
02:19:57	[Saint]	I assume it would be added to %cs to save a whole other tag just for that, though.
02:20:29	JdGordon\|	sure
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03:16:29	fuzzybunny69y	Hey everyone! Would it be possible to use Ipodlinux plugins with rockbox? Someone has made an RSVP reader(speed reader) for it that I would like to be able to use with Rockbox. Does anyone know if this is possible?
03:16:37	[Saint]	No
03:16:48	[Saint]	IPL is IPL, Rockbox is Rockbox
03:16:58	[Saint]	two different creatures.
03:17:19	JdGordon\|	is ipl still being developed?
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03:17:25	[Saint]	Nope
03:17:32	[Saint]	Not since ages ago
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03:28:00	fuzzybunny69y	oh ok
03:28:25	fuzzybunny69y	that is a shame a RSVP reader would work really well on my ipod since the screen is so small
03:29:45	krazykit	fuzzybunny69y, you could port it.
03:30:46	fuzzybunny69y	krazykit, I would love to do that if I could program ;)
03:32:57	fuzzybunny69y	what is rockbox even programmed in?
03:33:10	krazykit	c
03:33:46	fuzzybunny69y	oh cool
03:34:40	fuzzybunny69y	krazykit, do you know how to program in C?
03:34:55	krazykit	nope
03:37:11	fuzzybunny69y	ok guys thanks for your help
03:37:15	fuzzybunny69y	Rockbox is lovely
03:37:23	fuzzybunny69y	take care and I love you all
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04:45:12	CIA-107	New commit by rmenes (r28316): Add plugin keymaps to fft for the GoGear SA9200. ...
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04:59:07	JdGordon\|	scorche: do you know anything about a dev vm for the theme site?
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06:02:46	scorche	JdGordon\|: what do you mean?
06:04:15	JdGordon\|	I thought i remembered somene making a vm with the theme site to make it easier for people to play with
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06:12:34	JdGordon\|	why does pictureflow use a dark background on the grey targets!?
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06:18:49	belak	What does the fact that rockbox is "branched for 3.7" mean?
06:19:08	JdGordon\|	it means a 3.7 release is any day now
06:19:14	JdGordon\|	or next week sometime
06:19:30	belak	ok. :)
06:19:48	belak	I can't wait. :P
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07:05:03	TheSeven	S_a_i_n_t: hm, the bootloader doesn't really need LCD sleep, does it?
07:05:31	S_a_i_n_t	Pass...depends on how it's implemented I guess.
07:06:45	TheSeven	and 10KB is indeed a bit bloaty. norloader/embios loader also has the full lcd init code, but implemented in a size-optimized way. as the whole loader is only <3KB, the LCD init code is probably like 1KB
07:07:25	S_a_i_n_t	There's nothing in the patch that touches the bootloader from what I can see at a quick glance, I just noticed that a build with the LCD sleep patch ended up with a bootloader ~10Kb larger than SVN
07:07:58	TheSeven	the bootloader uses the same lcd driver as the main binary
07:08:15	S_a_i_n_t	Ah, right.
07:08:17	TheSeven	so the sleep stuff would need to be "#ifndef BOOTLOADER"ed
07:09:48	S_a_i_n_t	In case it isn't on the tracker (haven't actually looked), or just to save time if you wanted a look, it's here:
07:09:49	S_a_i_n_t	http://pastebin.org/361416
07:10:51	S_a_i_n_t	TheSeven: By the way, I realise how noob-ish this sounds from a man with so many Nano2Gs, but...what is the correct syntax to pass a bootloader (encrypted of course) to the device via iPodPatcher?
07:11:39	TheSeven	a rockbox bootloader? should be ipodpatcher -a bootloader.ipodx
07:12:08	S_a_i_n_t	RB, yes. And, thanks.
07:12:19	TheSeven	hm, why did he duplicate all the lcd access functions with asm versions?
07:12:36	S_a_i_n_t	Not sure.
07:13:03	TheSeven	and the bloat is coming from void lcd_wakeup(void) for sure
07:13:25	TheSeven	this would be a lot more efficient if implemented as a command table along with a function walking through it and processing it
07:13:32	S_a_i_n_t	yeah, that chunk is huge.
07:13:35	TheSeven	it's also lacking the init sequence for one of the LCD types
07:13:43	S_a_i_n_t	I've no idea how it could be done better, however.
07:14:19	S_a_i_n_t	I've tested it on type 1 and 7 LCD types as I'm lucky enough to have Nano2Gs with both...and it works as expected on both.
07:14:56	TheSeven	there are at least three types of lcds, but rockbox only cares about two of them, because type 3 and 7 use the same command set once they're up and running. they have different init sequences though
07:15:10	TheSeven	type 1?
07:15:22	TheSeven	i only know of types 2, 3 and 7
07:16:11	TheSeven	rockbox is using a totally different numbering though
07:16:18	TheSeven	what are your diagmode lcd_detect values?
07:16:33	S_a_i_n_t	Sorry, typo...."type 2", rather
07:16:38	TheSeven	ok
07:16:46	TheSeven	type 2 and 7 are the implemented ones
07:17:07	TheSeven	type 3 is the missing one. those devices seem to be rare, but there definitely are some.
07:18:10	S_a_i_n_t	well, I've got 6 Nano2Gs presently...and over time I have had ~12 pass through my hands and never seen a type 3 LCD'd Nano, so, they must be fairly rare.
07:18:27	S_a_i_n_t	I've also RB's several friends Nano2Gs and not seen it there either.
07:18:40	S_a_i_n_t	I was under the impression there was only types 2 and 7.
07:18:48	S_a_i_n_t	*were
07:19:15	S_a_i_n_t	*RB'd
07:20:24	S_a_i_n_t	Is there anyone present at the moment with a Rockboxed device that supports LCD sleep?
07:21:01	JdGordon\|	e200 does lcd sleep i think
07:21:01	S_a_i_n_t	I am curious if it is supposed to wake the LCD for events like "next track change", etc. as (to me) it seems rathe rpointless to do so.
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07:21:11	S_a_i_n_t	Ah, ok...well ^
07:21:39	JdGordon\|	that should only happen if caption backlight is enabled
07:21:41	JdGordon\|	obviously
07:21:48	JdGordon\|	I cant imagine why it owuld otherwise
07:22:20	S_a_i_n_t	The recent (not in SVN however) Nano2G LCD sleep patch wakes the LCD for such events, I will try turning off caption backlight if I do indeed have it enabled and see if that's it.
07:27:34	JdGordon\|	is it being stupid and turning on with unknown events?
07:27:46	S_a_i_n_t	Aha! Thanks JdGordon...that was it.
07:28:06	JdGordon\|	default: /* lets be stupid and turn on */
07:28:43	S_a_i_n_t	At first I thought it wasn't, as simply disabling caption backlight had no effect, but it turns out I just needed to disable caption backlight and reset the DAP.
07:28:50	S_a_i_n_t	Thanks for that, it was annoying me.
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07:34:04	JdGordon\|	ah, hehe silly bugger
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07:39:39	*	S_a_i_n_t "w00t!"s for the "32MB Fuze Guy"
07:40:28	S_a_i_n_t	That really is quite an epic mod, and here was I thinking I was "Mr. Smartass" because I managed to successfully de-mount and re-solder a NAND chip on a Nano2G mainboard.
07:40:37	Chronon	I posted a new patch at FS #11522. It reads new rule sets from RLE, Life 1.05 and .L files. RLE-type files cause crashes in the simulator but behavior seems fine on my F40.
07:40:46	S_a_i_n_t	I guess I have been bested ;)
07:41:23	JdGordon\|	Chronon: fix the crashes then :)
07:43:09	Chronon	JdGordon: I looked for the source of the crashes but I can't find what's wrong. The plugin seems to work just fine on target.
07:43:43	JdGordon\|	run the sim in gdb
07:44:05	Chronon	k
07:44:08	JdGordon\|	we almost certainly wont accept a patch with known crashes
07:44:26	Chronon	ok. I'll check it out.
07:53:11	S_a_i_n_t	Can somebody please have a look at committing FS #11682
07:53:12	S_a_i_n_t	http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11682?project=1&show_task=&order=dateopened&sort=desc
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07:53:50	S_a_i_n_t	It fixes the "disktidy doesn't delete custom files" thing, as well as makes wildcard handling a LOT better.
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07:59:02	S_a_i_n_t	TheSeven: ping?
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08:03:09	S_a_i_n_t	TheSeven: Could you please have a look at: System - Debug (Keep Out!) - View Disk Info and tell me if that is a bug or not?
08:04:06	S_a_i_n_t	On my Nano2Gs it seems to list the same info ~5 times, as thought it is needlessly repeated...I have no idea why, seems like a bug to "poor 'ol uneducated me"
08:13:20	TheSeven	i already wondered about that one some time ago
08:13:23	TheSeven	no idea what causes it
08:13:51	S_a_i_n_t	So, it is a bug then?
08:14:00	S_a_i_n_t	I suspected as much but wasn't sure.
08:14:50	S_a_i_n_t	Buschell has a Nano2G now, between the two of you you should be able to figure it out ;)
08:18:15	S_a_i_n_t	TheSeven: Additionally, (sorry to bug you so much ;)) do you have any idea how the OP of: FS #11404 achieved "Modifying the source in such a way as to force those applications to use 44.1khz causes sound to work correctly"
08:18:34	S_a_i_n_t	What needs to be done to force output to 44.1Khz?
08:20:20	TheSeven	probably just remove the other sampling rate entries from the PCM driver, but i'm not an expert on that area
08:21:12	S_a_i_n_t	Aha, neither. I tried looking there to figure out why SVN has no keyclicks unless there's audio playback..but I draw a blank.
08:21:17	S_a_i_n_t	It's all voodo to me.
08:21:36	S_a_i_n_t	Do you have keyclicks in the main menu (without playback)?
08:21:57	S_a_i_n_t	With clean SVN I hear no keyclicks unless there's audio playback.
08:22:36	TheSeven	no idea, i'm using HW keyclicks anyway
08:22:47	TheSeven	btw, it would be nice if that would be committed one day
08:23:35	S_a_i_n_t	If you have a synced patch...I'd love it ;)
08:23:57	S_a_i_n_t	preferably without all the garbage from the other PP ipods.
08:24:09	S_a_i_n_t	ie. the "broken" ones.
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08:27:47	TheSeven	why doesn't anybody bother to fix this? there are definitely enough people with PP ipods
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09:47:52	pacovila	Hello all, just a note to say I uploaded a patch in FS #11692 which brings Spanish language to 100% translated, thanks
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09:48:50	wodz	Zagor: ping
09:50:07	Zagor	pong
09:50:30	wodz	Zagor: have You got my mails?
09:50:36	Zagor	yes, thank you
09:51:05	wodz	Zagor: I found also some documentation for ZSP400 core - are You interested?
09:51:15	Zagor	always! :-)
09:53:23	wodz	Zagor: sent :-)
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09:59:07	Tchno	Hi, I am having issues locating my sansa fuze on the Rockbox utility program.
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09:59:58	Tchno	I have my player plugged in, but when I try to browse for it, it does not show up.
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10:00:32	JdGordon\|	are you running the utility as admin?
10:00:50	Tchno	Yeah
10:03:08	Tchno	It shows my C-F drives, but none of those are supporting the player
10:03:23	pixelma	is your Fuze's USB mode set to UMS/MSC?
10:03:46	Tchno	I'm not sure, I'll check
10:04:44	Tchno	Switched it to MSC, it was on auto detect
10:05:44	Tchno	Once the program stops lagging out on my computer I'll let ya know how it worked
10:06:21	wodz	pixelma: I have 'proof of concept' idea how to implement aspect correction in png viewer. The downside will be additional time needed to rescale
10:07:14	wodz	are there any other DAPs with aspect correction defines besides Ondio?
10:07:58	pixelma	well all bitmap Archoses have the same type of screens
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10:09:30	wodz	this may need more memory for some types of images to decode
10:10:33	pixelma	I believe the Iaudio remote (used as main screen on the M3) also has slightly rectangular pixels, not as noticable as on the Archoses though. I also don't know if this is taken care of anywhere else, so maybe the png viewer doesn't need to start with that
10:13:52	wodz	I think only bmp loader takes aspect into account
10:13:54	Tchno	Thanks pixelma, the utility program detected it. If I install rockbox on it now, will it still be able to detect the music already on it or do I have to put everything on afterwards?
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10:16:29	AlexP	Tchno: No, your fine
10:16:33	AlexP	*you're
10:16:55	Tchno	Alrighty cool, thanks again.
10:17:09	AlexP	I don't know how the fuze deals with it, but if it sticks it in stupid folders then you might have to use the database
10:17:19	AlexP	Depends how you loaded it I think
10:17:36	AlexP	If you want a nice folder structure and you don't already have it you might want to recopy
10:17:43	wodz	mpio hd200 has rectangular pixels as well, but I didn't know that there are some correction mechanisms implemented in rb. The screen is 128x128 and physical dimentions are WxH = 25x30 mm
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10:18:49	Tchno	Well, when I switch it to MSC I can't browse through the songs on the computer
10:21:56	Tchno	Would that present problems? Since I can only install it when it is on MSC
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10:31:52	AlexP	Tchno: They are probably somewhere odd
10:32:12	Tchno	I can't find them in any of the folders.
10:32:14	AlexP	Tchno: If you want to use the database, then try initialising it and see if it finds them
10:32:28	AlexP	Tchno: They'll be hidden somewhere, they must be :)
10:32:48	Tchno	So try installing it and see how it works out?
10:32:50	AlexP	If the database doesn't find them, then clear them and copy them back on over MSC :)
10:32:54	AlexP	Yeah, I would
10:33:01	Tchno	Alrighty
10:33:40	AlexP	I've not used a fuse, so I don't know exactly what funny things it does when using MTP
10:34:38	pixelma	Tchno, AlexP: on other targets Rockbox won't find music copied over in MTP mode though because they get a different file extension. If the Fuze's MTP mode does the same then...
10:34:46	AlexP	ah right
10:34:58	AlexP	Tchno: OK, so you probably will have to recopy it
10:35:13	pixelma	depends on how you put the music on there
10:35:16	AlexP	pixelma: You can tell I never use MTP :)
10:35:25	Tchno	Ah bummer, that'll take a few hours.
10:35:51	AlexP	really? What capacity?
10:36:09	pixelma	MTP is sloowww...
10:36:20	Tchno	It just takes a long time to copy the files back onto the computer, as I organized them on the mp3 player how I wanted them.
10:36:31	Tchno	Then copying them back isn't exactly speedy
10:36:39	AlexP	Oh right, I was assuming a back up on the PC :)
10:36:52	AlexP	Copying them to it over MSC should be quick
10:37:19	pixelma	I expect copying them back to be speedier than you experienced with MTP
10:37:32	Tchno	Alright that's good
10:37:47	Tchno	Nevertheless, I'll just start the process then call it a night
10:37:47	*	AlexP no like MTP :)
10:38:01	pixelma	AlexP: I just tried because I was interested in one of the few example songs that came with my c200 and wondered where it is and how to get it
10:38:02	Tchno	Thanks for all the help, I'll probably be back tomorrow to finish this up
10:38:34	AlexP	pixelma: Yeah, I ought to try really
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11:44:57	knittl	i have an .ogg file which crashes rockbox
11:45:03	knittl	can i send that to you?
11:45:14	knittl	'data abort' or something like that is shown on the screen
11:46:25	Stummi	knittl, if this ogg does not contains any copyrightet content you could submit it via firespray
11:47:03	knittl	Stummi: it does …
11:47:20	n1s	knittl: which player is it?
11:47:39	knittl	sansa e280v2
11:47:52	Stummi	hm
11:48:10	n1s	knittl: there's a bug causing that on some of those
11:48:11	knittl	i can try truncating it to say 5 seconds and see if it still crashes
11:48:18	knittl	then i can upload it
11:48:33	n1s	try with a rev before 28000
11:48:57	knittl	ok, later
11:49:09	knittl	Zagor: ping
11:49:33	pixelma	I think bertrik's test build from yesterday was for an e200v2 with the changes in r28000 reverted
11:49:35	Zagor	pong
11:49:43	knittl	Zagor: svn history got rewritten again ;)
11:49:48	knittl	but this time i know how to fix it faster
11:50:05	knittl	run `git svn reset 28200` and then `git svn rebase`
11:50:08	knittl	that should fix it
11:50:27	knittl	n1s: i think it happened before 28000 too
11:50:45	Zagor	knittl: in a working tree or in the naked repo?
11:50:47	n1s	knittl: please verufy that
11:50:56	knittl	Zagor: in the git mirror
11:51:02	knittl	n1s: i will, but i gotta go now
11:54:09	Zagor	knittl: done
11:54:42	knittl	thx :)
11:55:38	knittl	i guess the rebase is not finished yet?
11:56:04	Zagor	it is
11:56:21	knittl	strange. git fetch still pulls the wrong rev
11:56:40	knittl	`git rev-parse master remotes/git-svn` gives what output?
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11:57:28	knittl	anyway, really gotta go
11:57:33	knittl	laters
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12:43:52	pixelma	I was recently reminded that we already talked about it during DevCon 2008...
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14:21:40	shuffle2	is it possible to partition an ipod and still allow rockbox to access one of the partitions?
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14:22:00	shuffle2	or at the least, format the drive and still have it be reversible?
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14:22:19	JdGordon	rockbox will mount the first FAT partition
14:22:24	shuffle2	awesome
14:22:32	shuffle2	and the official fw?
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14:23:06	shuffle2	doesn't really matter, just curious :p
14:27:49	JdGordon	is the themesite in the rockbox git repo?
14:29:15	shuffle2	how about formatting of the FAT partition? does it need anything special done for it, or can i just go ahead and delete it, then make new FAT and ext partitions?
14:30:33	kugel	Zagor: i can confirm that the git mirror is not yet fixed
14:32:51	Torne	the OF does the same
14:33:02	Torne	don't touch the patition in slot 1
14:33:08	Torne	it's the hidden firmware partition
14:33:55	Torne	yoiu can just delete partition 2, the fat partiton, then recreate it with the same start location and a shorter size
14:34:01	Torne	then make a partition 3/4 in he gap
14:34:12	Torne	it just needs formatting as FAT32
14:34:22	Torne	the ipod will recreate the files on it automatically
14:34:51	kugel	JdGordon: I think the git mirror has only trunk, but you can make your own clone from the entire repo (it'll only take ages)
14:35:01	Zagor	kugel: I don't know how to fix it
14:35:11	kugel	how did you do it last time?
14:35:19	shuffle2	Torne: hum, gparted doesn't see the firmware partition as valid :/
14:35:30	shuffle2	so it absorbs it into the other partitions
14:35:46	Zagor	I got help
14:35:51	JdGordon	kugel: meh, svn will do... can you do me a d2+kinetic build?
14:36:06	Torne	shuffle2: yes, the firmware partition is of type "unused" :)
14:36:12	Torne	but it has a valid start/end sector
14:36:14	Torne	and you mustn't touch those
14:36:20	shuffle2	if i just tell gparted to create the new fat32 at the same location, it'll be ok?
14:36:27	Torne	Probably noot
14:36:32	Torne	it will happily overwrite partition1
14:36:36	Torne	because it thinks the slot is empty.
14:36:37	shuffle2	ehehe
14:36:38	kugel	I think "git svn reset r28200 && git reset −−hard ed11c04d51d2664dc2254018319044992d30b350" on the master, then git push −−force to the mirror should work
14:36:43	Torne	you probably want to use fdisk
14:36:49	Torne	where you can control exactly what happens
14:37:15	Torne	you won't destroy the player or anything if yo umess this up, btw, you can just restore it from the rom disk mode if you break it ;)
14:39:29	shuffle2	oh cool :p
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14:40:36	kugel	Zagor: ^
14:41:38	kugel	I guess it needs a git svn rebase between the reset and the push
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14:41:50	Zagor	kugel: that's exactly what I've already done
14:42:00	Zagor	r28200 = ed11c04d51d2664dc2254018319044992d30b350
14:42:16	Zagor	push says "Everything up-to-date"
14:43:26	Zagor	no, wait. that was to r28000.
14:43:45	Zagor	scratch that :)
14:43:59	kugel	well anything before r28200 should work equally well
14:43:59	*	Zagor corrects the correction
14:44:51	kugel	r28206 is the first messed up revision
14:47:53	kugel	maybe I need to refetch from the mirror
14:51:14	kugel	hm no that didn't work
14:52:25	kugel	Zagor: the mirror still has the old commit message. is that on the master too?
14:52:53	Zagor	how do I check?
14:57:11	kugel	git log
14:57:33	kugel	then search for 28206. if it says "Merge branch 'startfolder'" it's the old one
14:58:17	kugel	oh wait, it has r28206 twice apparently
14:59:13	Zagor	I only see it once in "git log"
14:59:24	kugel	I see it twice in git log origin/master
14:59:43	Zagor	and I see the new message
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15:01:20	kugel	git log origin/master \| grep "Merge branch 'startfolder'" is empty?
15:01:42	LambdaCalculus37	Bagder: Ping
15:01:43	kugel	then it looks like the push didn't work
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15:01:57	Bagder	LambdaCalculus37: jawohl?
15:02:26	Zagor	kugel: it is empty. the push doesn't do anything because it says "Everything up-to-date"
15:03:01	LambdaCalculus37	Bagder: Think it's time to start adding the GoGear HDD6330 to the build table? :)
15:03:10	kugel	Zagor: then maybe "git svn reset r28200 && git reset −−hard ed11c04d51d2664dc2254018319044992d30b350" with git push −−force immedately after, then git svn rebase, then another git push (should work without −−force) could work
15:03:18	Bagder	haha, don't ask me I'm slightly off the loop
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15:03:53	LambdaCalculus37	Bagder: Heh, me too. :)
15:04:12	kugel	going back to history definitely breaks push so it "Everything up-to-date" cannot happen
15:04:29	LambdaCalculus37	Who can add the GoGear HDD6330 to the build table?
15:04:32	Zagor	kugel: won't that remove everything after r28200?
15:05:42	kugel	yea
15:06:33	kugel	that's the plan, git svn rebase on the master should bring it back, but pushing before the rebase should make the push work correctly
15:07:04	Zagor	same result. "Everything up-to-date"
15:08:32	kugel	that's the output of the first push?
15:08:43	Zagor	yes
15:08:53	kugel	that's very strange
15:09:56	kugel	that shouldn't be possible if I understand git correctly :)
15:10:06	Zagor	that's a big if :)
15:12:18	shuffle2	well i managed to destroy the fw partition :p
15:12:35	shuffle2	even tho fdisk shouldn't have touched it :\|
15:13:00	LambdaCalculus37	shuffle2: Destroyed the firmware partition on what?
15:13:39	kugel	Zagor: can you perhaps create a new branch on the mirror to see if that one is created correctly? (on the master: git co -b master_copy && git push <name of mirror remote>)
15:14:04	shuffle2	an ipod video
15:16:03	pixelma	LambdaCalculus37: you mentioned disabling plugins in the configure script in your last commit message but I saw no corresponding file changed
15:16:32	shuffle2	:(
15:16:35	kugel	co = checkout (sorry, I'm too used to my aliases :) )
15:16:53	shuffle2	rockboxutility says "error reading partition table - possibly not an ipod"
15:17:00	shuffle2	plz just do it(c)
15:17:04	LambdaCalculus37	pixelma: Yes, that was actually a mistake on my part. I had my tools/configure set to build plugins for the SA9200 so I could test them, and I disabled them again without realizing that they're already disabled in SVN to begin with.
15:17:49	LambdaCalculus37	pixelma: That certainly earned me a "HERP DERP". :P
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15:18:23	Torne	shuffle2: fun :)
15:18:23	pixelma	shuffle2: ipodpatcher/the Rockbox Utility only works on Ipods with intact Apple firmware, you need to restore it to working condition before
15:18:36	Torne	shuffle2: restore with itunes on windows, if possible
15:18:38	Torne	then try again
15:18:43	Torne	don't let parted anywhere near it
15:18:46	shuffle2	oh god, itunes
15:18:54	shuffle2	i used fdisk, Torne
15:18:55	Torne	it's the most reliable way, i'm afraid
15:19:03	shuffle2	and didn't disturb the first partition
15:19:12	Torne	then i suspect you did the wrong thing
15:19:16	Torne	whateve ryou think you did :)
15:19:27	shuffle2	i suspect you told me wrong :P
15:19:27	Torne	Did the ipod still work afterward, btw? :)
15:19:41	shuffle2	it boots to the "you killed me" screen
15:19:51	Torne	Ah, wait a sec, is this an 80GB disk?
15:19:54	Torne	how did you format it?
15:19:58	shuffle2	30GB
15:20:06	Torne	hm. does the 30gb disk have 2kb logical sectors? i forget
15:20:15	Torne	anyway, some of hte ipod videos need to be formatted with 2k sectors
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15:20:28	Torne	so maybe you didn't mess up the firmware partition at all
15:20:42	Torne	the IpodManualRestore page on the wiki lists a format command that should work
15:20:51	Torne	restore in itunes to be sure it's in the correct state, then start over ;)
15:21:41	Torne	people have done this before and it does work
15:22:10	Torne	neither the apple firmware, nor ipodpatcher, nor rockbox itself should care if there are extra partitions or not, as long as the firmware partition is left alone and hte second partition is a valid fat32 partition with the right sector size for that disk
15:22:47	shuffle2	upon viewing with fdisk after unplugging/replugging the ipod, the first partition disappeared
15:22:59	shuffle2	however the second starts where the first would have ended
15:23:07	shuffle2	and i never told fdisk to delete it :/
15:23:08	pixelma	I believe 30GB Ipod Videos can be either (wrt logical sector size)
15:23:16	Torne	pixelma: yeah, i think so too unfortunately :)
15:23:27	Torne	probably the best hting is to let itunes format it and then look and see what it did :)
15:23:54	Torne	shuffle2: maybe parted did it, even though you didn't make any changes?
15:23:57	shuffle2	well i'll go download and install itunes then...
15:24:15	Torne	there's always the even more fun option of sfdisk
15:24:23	Torne	which does exactly what you tell it guaranteed :)
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15:24:32	Torne	at the cost of being painfully incomprehensible to mortals
15:24:33	shuffle2	if a disk partition touched your data when you told it not to, wouldn't that be failure?
15:24:40	shuffle2	partition tool*
15:24:59	Torne	Maybe fdisk did it, also
15:24:59	shuffle2	i mean it's not something you guess at :p
15:25:07	Torne	it may have zeroed the start/end sectors of the free partition, because it was free
15:25:21	Torne	the fact that the apple firmware partition is type "unused" is kinda a problem for partitioning utils :)
15:25:33	Torne	it's like storing data in the free blocks on your filesystem without telling it, and then running fsck on it ;)
15:25:46	Torne	i think they are somewhat justified in maybe accidentally destroying it there..
15:25:55	Torne	it'd be better if they didn't but you can see how it might happen :)
15:26:17	Torne	i am reasonably sure that sfdisk will do exactly what you tell it to and no more, but it's pretty hard to use
15:26:28	Torne	since it's barely more than a hex editor for the partition table ;)
15:26:47	Strife89TX	Eek.
15:27:53	Torne	anyway, I suggest: restore with itunes because that puts the disk in a known good state
15:27:58	Torne	then back up the MBR with dd
15:28:09	Torne	so you can put it back if you mess something up without having to restore all over again :)
15:28:13	Torne	and so you can compare it :)
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15:34:06	shuffle2	"iTunes has detected an iPod in recovery mode!" :p
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15:37:43	*	S_a_i_n_t shudders at the mere thought of sfdisk
15:37:57	S_a_i_n_t	a VERY awesome tool...but painfully hard to use.
15:38:09	S_a_i_n_t	And, a recipie for disaster if you fuck it up.
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15:38:15	shuffle2	ok, all itunes'd up
15:38:39	S_a_i_n_t	Awesome, iTunes is the one way to guarantee restoring an iPod to the defaulr state.
15:38:55	S_a_i_n_t	Just let it do it's thing once it finds the iPod in recovery mode.
15:39:11	S_a_i_n_t	*default
15:39:43	Torne	shuffle2: file -s /dev/sd?2 should tell you the FAT filesystem parameters
15:39:50	shuffle2	so how much do i need to backup ?
15:39:50	Torne	i.e. the sector size and cluster size
15:39:53	Torne	just 512 bytes
15:40:10	Torne	dd if=/dev/sd? of=mbrbackup bs=512 count=1
15:40:15	Torne	for the appropriate device name
15:40:50	Stummi	erm the first 512 byte does not only contain the mbr afaik
15:41:04	Torne	the first 512 bytes is specifically the MBR. that's what it is.
15:41:11	Torne	The MBR contains both the partition table and the boot code
15:41:25	Torne	(and the disk ID)
15:41:30	Stummi	yes
15:41:32	Torne	but restoring those on an ipod is fine
15:42:05	Torne	don't worry, i am a guru ;)
15:42:20	Torne	and i have killed my ipod more times than i can recall
15:42:21	Torne	:)
15:42:23	shuffle2	sectors/cluster 32
15:42:31	Torne	sector size is the interesting one
15:42:53	Torne	you cna paste the whole line if you want, it's not that long
15:43:24	shuffle2	/dev/sdc: x86 boot sector, code offset 0x58, OEM-ID "MSDOS5.0", sectors/cluster 32, reserved sectors 512, Media descriptor 0xf8, heads 255, sectors 58605119 (volumes > 32 MB) , FAT (32 bit), sectors/FAT 0, infoSector 0, Backup boot sector 0, reserved3 0x30000, physical drive 0x3, serial number 0xa88b3652, label: " iPod"
15:44:21	Torne	that's 512 byte sectors, then
15:44:22	Torne	hm
15:45:07	Torne	not sure what the problem was, then.
15:45:16	shuffle2	/dev/sdc2: x86 boot sector, code offset 0x3c, OEM-ID "*UOKJIHC" cached by Windows 9M, sectors/cluster 32, Media descriptor 0xf8, heads 255, hidden sectors 160650, sectors 58444468 (volumes > 32 MB) , FAT (32 bit), sectors/FAT 14266, serial number 0xc620cfcc, label: "IPOD "
15:45:38	Torne	wait, what?
15:45:39	shuffle2	"hidden sectors" is the same as what i was working around before in fdisk :)
15:45:53	shuffle2	first was the disc, that's for the partition
15:45:54	Torne	the first line there was from the whole device?
15:45:58	shuffle2	yes
15:45:59	Torne	that shouldn't have those fields at all
15:46:11	Torne	unless you've mistakenly formatted /dev/sdc as FAT in the past.. ;)
15:46:20	shuffle2	nope
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15:46:59	Torne	well it does look rather like something has ;)
15:47:22	Torne	anyway, either way the sector size appears to be 512 bytes, which is normal
15:47:32	shuffle2	well i've had it for 7 years?
15:47:35	shuffle2	maybe sometime :p
15:47:43	Torne	i don't have mine handy to see what my MBR looks like ;)
15:48:25	*	Torne experiments with some other disks
15:48:46	Torne	Hm, yeah, I guess iTunes just doesn't overwrite the whole MBR
15:48:52	Torne	since it doesn't have any boot code to insert
15:49:15	Torne	so it just overwrites the partition table area and so on, and an old FAT BPB from an accidental format in the past would be left over and only partly overwritten
15:49:29	Torne	on my disks at home file identifies the GRUB2 bootcode instead :)
15:49:43	Torne	and then dumps the partition table entries
15:50:40	shuffle2	in any case, i only need the first 512B to save me from using itunes again?
15:50:48	shuffle2	cause i've dumped that already
15:50:59	Torne	you only need the first 512 bytes as long as you don't destroy the filesystem on sdc2 :)
15:51:05	shuffle2	eheh
15:51:05	Torne	or the contents of sdc1
15:51:28	Torne	what does sfdisk -d /dev/sdc look like? (pastebin)
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15:52:37	shuffle2	http://pastie.org/1238110
15:52:48	Torne	right.
15:53:09	Torne	so yeah, you need to reduce the size of partition 2 and create a partition 3 in the gap, without touching the fields of partition 1 even though it's marked as free ;)
15:54:22	Torne	if you just dump that to a file and edit it with an editor, then feed it back into sfdisk..
15:54:42	Torne	but you probably want to align with cylinder boundaries for crappy os compatibility ;)
15:55:32	Torne	i have a meeting, anyway. have fun with that ;) :)
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16:00:05	shuffle2	http://pastie.org/1238127 :s
16:00:14	shuffle2	seeya
16:06:57	knittl	Zagor: ping (again) :D
16:07:51	Zagor	kugel, knittl: join #rockbox-git
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16:18:13	shuffle2	tried twice, failed twice :\|
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16:19:10	TheSeven	LambdaCalculus37: does it compile without warnings?
16:20:56	LambdaCalculus37	TheSeven: Plugins are disabled on the HDD6330, and thus far I haven't had issues compiling it.
16:21:52	LambdaCalculus37	TheSeven: But we're also missing a backdrop for the UI sim, and until I get the HDD6330 back that I gave to lowlight, I can't work on the plugins or continue testing code.
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16:22:31	TheSeven	well, as long as it does compile?
16:23:05	LambdaCalculus37	TheSeven: I can compile a normal build with no problems.
16:23:14	AlexP	no warnings?
16:23:25	LambdaCalculus37	AlexP: For normal builds, no.
16:23:35	AlexP	bootloaders and sims?
16:23:49	LambdaCalculus37	Sims give me errors and warnings.
16:24:52	LambdaCalculus37	Need to build a bootloader again.
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16:34:18	shuffle2	woohoo it worked
16:34:28	shuffle2	switched back to fdisk from sfdisk ;p
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17:13:48	linuxstb	Zagor: I had always thought it was disabled... Is there a reason for disabling it?
17:14:32	Zagor	to stop me having to repair the git repo every week :-)
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17:17:57	pixelma	linuxstb: it was enabled a short time ago but git doesn't seem to cope with it
17:18:32	Torne	linuxstb: git includes the commit message in what it hashes, so git repos cloned before and after the svn revprop edit end up with nonmatching changesets
17:18:40	Torne	linuxstb: and then merges explode
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17:40:09	saratoga	logs
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17:51:03	LambdaCalculus37	b0hoon: For the logs, let's try to get a UI sim for the HDD6330 to build. I'll be working on plugin keymaps as well.
17:59:56	saratoga	perhaps we should stop distributing source zips with new releases and instead provide a link to the SVN tag of the source code so that people stop grabbing old source zips (e.g. like that lovely port of rockbox 3.5.1 to WebOS that just turned up last month)
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18:00:38	saratoga	IMO its difficult for people not used to our project to realize that development should be done against the latest source, since not all projects work the way we do
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18:08:57	LambdaCalculus37	saratoga: There was a port of Rockbox to WebOS?
18:10:22	saratoga	http://forums.precentral.net/webos-apps-software/264071-rockbox-webos.html
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18:20:47	n1s	saratoga: i agree
18:20:58	n1s	also it's one less thing to maintain
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18:22:23	LambdaCalculus37	saratoga: Think there are any chances of them giving us back the changes needed to make Rockbox run on WebOS?
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18:23:11	S_a_i_n_t	JdGordon: I realise you won't be awake...but I know you'll read it in the logs...so:
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18:24:35	evilnick_B	LambdaCalculus37: I guess that depends on asking them for the changes, which in turn depends on our Chinese skills!
18:24:41	S_a_i_n_t	If you add USB screen to %cs and a %(is USB connected)<yes\|no> tag...then we'd be able to do a "Safe to disconnect" screen like the Apple OF does ;)
18:24:51	S_a_i_n_t	JdGordon: ^
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18:26:33	LambdaCalculus37	evilnick_B: markun is one of the few of us with a good grasp of the Chinese language. Perhaps he can ask for the changes to the source so we can put them into SVN.
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20:34:32	webguest44	does the rockbox software work ok the ipod nano gen 4?
20:35:32	LambdaCalculus37	No, Rockbox doesn't run on any iPod nano past the 2nd generation.
20:37:12	webguest44	ok ta
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22:11:15	CIA-107	New commit by bertrik (r28319): Serbian language update - FS #11693 by Ivan Pesic
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23:01:31	wodz	pixelma: ping
23:02:27	n1s	is there a reason the frontpage svn table only shows commits to the "trunk" module/dir?
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23:03:21	CIA-107	New commit by b0hoon (r28321): HDD6330 and HDD1630: split the code for the backlight, cause it's rather different for these targets.
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23:16:03	CIA-107	New commit by b0hoon (r28322): HDD6330: fix loading of the OF through the Rockbox bootloader (correct magic values in registers at the start), fix bootloader warnings.
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23:30:12	b0hoon	LambdaCalculus37: i will work on the sim now.
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23:41:57	pixelma	wodz: pong
23:42:15	wodz	pixelma: I uploaded new version of the imageviewer png patch with 'aspect correction' added
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23:42:35	wodz	as well as new version of MAS_cleanup patch
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23:43:13	pixelma	got the notification mail for the MAS one and the other just arrived :)
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23:43:22	wodz	:-)
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23:43:46	pixelma	will have a look and will probably report back tomorrow
23:43:53	wodz	thx
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