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#rockbox log for 2010-10-22

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00:06:17saratogaanyone have a theory why putting DEBUGF inside a macro will randomly work just fine, or else fail with an undefined reference to "ci" depending apparently on the order of compilation?
00:07:19saratogai don't see any obvious reason why the preprocessor should make this more or less likely to work
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00:12:20JdGordonS_a_i_n_t: I dont know if its possible to check if usb is actually connected as MSC
00:12:37S_a_i_n_tJdGordon: Ahhhh...bugger :/
00:12:46JdGordonit should be though
00:12:50JdGordonask gevaerts
00:12:50S_a_i_n_tThat would indeed be a nice addition to the USB screen if it were possible.
00:13:23S_a_i_n_tYou know what I mean right? A "Safe to Remove Hardware" splash/bitmap/etc.
00:13:41S_a_i_n_t(various DAP OSes have this)
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00:14:21S_a_i_n_tA combination of the tag I suggested (if possible), and adding USB screen to %cs would/should make that possible.
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00:20:19CIA-107New commit by b0hoon (r28323): HDD6330: add the simulator.
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00:22:18CIA-107r28323 build result: All green
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00:33:25LambdaCalculus37b0hoon_: Thanks for getting the HDD6330 sim to build! I'm buying you beers! :D
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00:41:11LambdaCalculus37Eh? Why am I getting this error when building a sim?
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00:50:39wodzI have simple question for which I can't find answer (which means I ask wrong question to the google). If I load some elf object with dlopen() it will return ptr to link_map structure. link_map has the field called l_addr which is described as 'Base load address'
00:51:13wodzNow what is at this address? .text section form loaded object or some header or what?
01:00:08S_a_i_n_tLambdaCalculus37: Your pastebin doesn't seem to be working for me...sorry :-/
01:01:13LambdaCalculus37S_a_i_n_t: It works here.
01:02:11S_a_i_n_tHmmm...weird. I'm getting 404 here.
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01:29:19PatrickBatemanI have a problem
01:29:33S_a_i_n_tBest thing to do is just ask your question.
01:29:35PatrickBatemanmy ipod nano's buttons don't work
01:29:45PatrickBatemaniPod Nano 1st Gen
01:29:57S_a_i_n_tIs it just in rockbox that they don't work?
01:29:57PatrickBatemanI can reset through Menu and the middle button fine
01:30:02S_a_i_n_tHave you tried a hard reset?
01:30:12PatrickBatemanhard reset?
01:30:18PatrickBatemanhow do I do it?
01:30:24S_a_i_n_tAha...well, can you boot into the Apple Firmware and check if the buttons work there
01:30:40S_a_i_n_thard reset == Menu+Select
01:30:46S_a_i_n_tIf that works, it's a good sign.
01:31:11PatrickBatemanIt boots straight back to rockbox
01:31:13S_a_i_n_tBut, boot into the Apple firmware, and check if the buttons are working as expected there.
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01:31:41LambdaCalculus37PatrickBateman: Do another reset like S_a_i_n_t described, but hold SELECT+BACK until the diagnostic mode appears.
01:31:46S_a_i_n_tHold Menu+Select until it reboots, and then press and hold Menu immediately.
01:31:51LambdaCalculus37You can then test that the buttons are actually registering.
01:31:59S_a_i_n_tAHa, good point.
01:32:11PatrickBatemanit goes straight back to Rockbox
01:32:25S_a_i_n_tYou're doing something wrong then, sorry.
01:32:38LambdaCalculus37PatrickBateman: Do one more, and then immediately press and hold BACK+SELECT.
01:32:51LambdaCalculus37As in, the minute it resets, immediately press the second button combo.
01:33:07S_a_i_n_thold menu+selct and as it is reboting *immediately* hold select and previous (back).
01:33:14S_a_i_n_terr...yeah, as LambdaCalculus37 said.
01:33:34PatrickBatemanrockbox keeps trying to boot real fast
01:33:38PatrickBatemanI do this
01:33:42PatrickBatemanflip hold off and on
01:33:48S_a_i_n_tYou need to be pretty quick.
01:34:01PatrickBatemanthe screen goes blank onto apple logo
01:34:08PatrickBatemanthen i quicky hit back and select and hold
01:34:15PatrickBatemanRockbox boots up and I lose all hope
01:34:45LambdaCalculus37PatrickBateman: Try this, and don't involve the hold switch.
01:34:46S_a_i_n_tOk, um...try this. Reboot the iPod and as it is rebooting (as soon as the screen goes black) flip the hold switch on.
01:34:55LambdaCalculus37Press Play to power off the iPod from Rockbox.
01:34:56S_a_i_n_terr...too many cooks ;)
01:34:59S_a_i_n_tOk, ignore me ;)
01:35:16PatrickBatemanAPPLE FIRMWARE
01:35:28LambdaCalculus37PatrickBateman: Got it?
01:35:30PatrickBatemanflip the hold switch on.
01:35:40PatrickBatemanbrb food
01:35:48S_a_i_n_tyes, hold boots the Apple FW also.
01:36:16S_a_i_n_tIf the buttons are working as expected there, all you should need to do is a clean install of rockbox.
01:36:45S_a_i_n_tie. delete your .rockbox folder, and re-install it (remembering to backup your config.cfg if you wish to)
01:37:15LambdaCalculus37S_a_i_n_t: But it's always best to do a complete reinstall from within Rockbox Utility.
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01:38:26S_a_i_n_tYeah, it is I suppose. I have had RBUtil leave leftovers behind myself, but it probably is beter to use it.
01:39:49PatrickBatemanoh question
01:39:59PatrickBatemanbuttons still dont work
01:40:08PatrickBatemanis there a way to control rockbox via pc
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01:40:20S_a_i_n_tThe buttons don't work in the Apple Firmware either?
01:40:32JdGordon|then the player is dead
01:40:40PatrickBatemanIve tried google and they said disassmebed and reassembled, sitll nothing\
01:40:58PatrickBatemanI wish I had one of those dock things
01:41:05PatrickBatemanwhere you can control it externally
01:41:06S_a_i_n_tYou could *try* doing a complete refresh using iTunes...but, it probably won't do anything.
01:41:59S_a_i_n_tIf you opened the player, without any experience, you may have even caused it more harm.
01:41:59PatrickBatemanprobably not
01:42:19PatrickBatemanIt works perfectly fine, Im expirenced in breaking things open
01:42:24PatrickBatemanbut the buttons
01:42:34S_a_i_n_tWell, doesn't work fine at all.
01:42:39S_a_i_n_tThe buttons don't work ;)
01:42:41saratogait works perfectly fine except that its "dead"
01:42:57JdGordon|except if hard reset works they do a bit
01:42:57PatrickBatemanis there a way to control rockbox via PC USB?
01:43:10PatrickBatemanOH YEAh
01:43:14PatrickBatemanI JUST REALIZED THAT
01:43:18S_a_i_n_tJdGordon|; Yeah...I find that odd too.
01:43:22PatrickBatemanif the buttons for hard reset work
01:43:32PatrickBatemanwhy is my ipod not recieveing commands then
01:43:41S_a_i_n_tTry a full restore using iTunes, but I doubt it will do any good.
01:43:48PatrickBatemanim afriad it wont
01:43:52PatrickBatemanthen it'll fully be dead
01:43:57S_a_i_n_twell, don't then.
01:44:01PatrickBatemanbecause I'd need to choose my default language
01:44:08S_a_i_n_tBut it's not going to fix itself.
01:44:36PatrickBatemanis the config.cfg editble with notepad or the like?
01:44:43LambdaCalculus37PatrickBateman: Have you tried entering diagnostic mode on the iPod yet?
01:44:43S_a_i_n_tOf course.
01:44:59PatrickBatemanLambda: Too scurred to
01:45:19PatrickBatemanIs rockbox controllble if I use my PC? I hate to ask again
01:45:30S_a_i_n_twell, don't be. It will really help if you actually try the things we're suggesting.
01:45:52S_a_i_n_tEntering Diagnostic mode will tell us if it is actually recieving button input.
01:45:57PatrickBatemanIf you'll help me emotionally
01:45:57S_a_i_n_tit won;t "hurt" your player.
01:46:02PatrickBatemanI'll do it
01:46:07PatrickBatemanwhat do I need to do?
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01:46:16PatrickBatemando I need to disable Rockbox?
01:46:22S_a_i_n_tas LambdaCalculus37 said earlier:
01:46:42S_a_i_n_tReboot the player, and as it is rebooting quickly hold select+previous(back)
01:47:15PatrickBatemanokay I tried and it gets me to rockbox
01:47:33PatrickBatemanIf I put the apple boot back on, it should work, right?
01:47:48S_a_i_n_tIf you can get into the Apple FW I see no reason why you can't get into diagnostic mode aside from user error.
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01:48:29PatrickBatemanbecause the Rockbox FW might not be able to make it enter dianostic
01:48:31PatrickBatemanunlees you mean
01:48:36PatrickBatemanMenu select
01:48:46PatrickBatemanthen when its rebooting flip it to hold and then back+select
01:49:34LloreanThe diagnostic mode happens *before* any Rockbox code is loaded. We can't prevent it even by accident.
01:49:43S_a_i_n_tNo, I mean: hold Menu+Select until it reboots, and as it is rebooting (as soon as the screen goes black hold Menu+Previous and keep it held until the diagnostic mode appears
01:50:00PatrickBatemanlemme try
01:50:05PatrickBatemanI dont mean to annoy any of you
01:50:13PatrickBatemanim just trying to make sure it isnt this that or the other thing
01:50:30S_a_i_n_tSo are we.
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01:52:24PatrickBatemanI keep trying and no such luck
01:53:35PatrickBatemanmenu previous, right
01:53:41PatrickBatemanand not select previous?
01:54:44S_a_i_n_t[12:47] <S_a_i_n_t> Reboot the player, and as it is rebooting quickly hold select+previous(back)
01:55:21PatrickBatemanyou said Menu previous earlier
01:55:28PatrickBatemanso I was curious which one
01:56:23S_a_i_n_tNo, I didn't actually..sorry.
01:56:33PatrickBateman<S_a_i_n_t> No, I mean: hold Menu+Select until it reboots, and as it is rebooting (as soon as the screen goes black hold Menu+Previous and keep it held until the diagnostic mode appears
01:56:46S_a_i_n_tyes, you misread.
01:56:58S_a_i_n_tOh...shit..sorry ;)
01:57:03S_a_i_n_thaha...yes, I did.
01:57:26PatrickBatemanokey dokey
01:57:35PatrickBateman lets see here
01:58:46PatrickBatemanim hard resetting
01:58:52PatrickBatemanwait nvm
01:58:58saratogadoes this have anything to do with rockbox? if not, maybe you should take it to private chat or -community
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06:18:46JdGordon|does the database not use the number sorting the filebrowser uses?
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06:55:43[AndrewR]hi all
06:56:29[AndrewR]I'm trying to print a date in string form, like "Wed Aug 2" etc
06:56:58[AndrewR]is there anything like strftime I can use from my plugin in c?
06:57:05[AndrewR]I saw a lui impl of strftime..
06:58:40gevaertsthe lua plugin seems ton have its own strftime, yes
06:59:07gevaertsYou could copy that, or move that file to pluins/lib (which probably makes sense anyway)
06:59:26[AndrewR]but my plugin is in C
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07:00:50gevaertsyes, so is the the implementation used by lua...
07:02:37[AndrewR]oh, so it is. I thought it was lua for some reason
07:02:56[AndrewR]ok, that should work. thanks
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07:53:44KiwiCamHi. Beginner questions to follow. %mp - play status. Is it possible to run an animation when RW or FF has been pressed, say with alternating sublines?
07:54:25JdGordon|that is exactly how you'd do it
07:55:45KiwiCamOK. So...what's the smallest time interval before you can show the next bitmap portion? 2 seconds?
07:56:28JdGordon|in theory anyway...
07:57:37KiwiCamOK. I'm still trying to get it to work for me. But, at least I know I'm on the right track. Is it possible to store a value, or detect if a value has changed?
07:58:13JdGordon|not yet anyway
07:58:21JdGordon|what would you use it for?
07:59:01KiwiCamI'm not sure :] I'm still just working out the Rockbox potential.
08:00:21KiwiCamMaybe to see if say I've passed a certain % of the track time and then start another animation???
08:00:55JdGordon|you can do that with the track position tag
08:00:58JdGordon|I think
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08:01:48KiwiCamI'm going to have to Google IRC commands and study up :)
08:02:07KiwiCamBut Rockbox comes first :]
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08:04:04KiwiCam%px. Got it. Thanks. I hadn' spotted that. Interesting. Hmm...
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08:10:57KiwiCamSo, how about something like: Check variable. If this is Play and Play Status is FF, then do this, else if RW then, else Pause then...Don't mean to be a pain. Just throwing ideas out. I think that's the last for now.
08:12:19kugelthe Winamp app for android reacts on the music controls in the lock screen. I wonder if we could do the same (and how)
08:12:51kugelI found no sign of an api for that
08:13:21S_a_i_n_tKiwiCam: What you're suggesting is entirely possibly arlready
08:13:31S_a_i_n_tnothing need be implemented to achieve that.
08:14:03S_a_i_n_tyou might want to look at the %mp condition
08:14:04KiwiCamClearly I need to bone up a little more :)
08:14:28S_a_i_n_tIndeed. ;)
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08:16:18KiwiCamWould you mind giving an example to help me along? Say if rewind was prior to play then, else if FF then..
08:16:55KiwiCamthe s/b else if it WAS ff.
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08:18:34S_a_i_n_tI'm not sure I understand how that would be useful,'m actually not sure that can be done. there's no way to check if a tag *was* true, if if it is.
08:18:55S_a_i_n_tI guess I misunderstod what you were wanting to do, sorry.
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08:19:15S_a_i_n_ts/if it is/only if it is/
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08:20:20S_a_i_n_tIt's possible to check if any required tags are in a true state at the same time, but what you're asking would require a record of past commands/events to be kept...and that doesn't happen.
08:21:09KiwiCamThis is why I was wondering if there was some way of storing a variable. A toggle?
08:21:33S_a_i_n_tNope. you can only check for true or false states.
08:21:52KiwiCamAnd you can't set any states? Correct?
08:22:03S_a_i_n_tI keep re-reading your post I responded to, and I read it completely differently to what you described secondarily.
08:22:22S_a_i_n_tI'm not sure what you're asking there.
08:22:29KiwiCamDon't worry. I'm a confusing kind of guy.
08:22:45S_a_i_n_tYou can't force a state to be true if it isn't, or false if it isn't...
08:23:37KiwiCamOK. I'm fine with that. Just wondering. A toggle would be nice. It's not a deal breaker anyway.
08:24:27S_a_i_n_twell, the thing is...all the tags *are* kinda like a toggle.
08:24:44S_a_i_n_tevery true state has a false just can't keep a record of events.
08:26:01KiwiCamThanks for your patience.
08:27:32JdGordStates sent just true/false... they have values
08:27:40JdGordYou can't set the value though
08:29:35S_a_i_n_tthe condition you asked about earlier is pretty simple though (as I understand it): %?mp<|%?mp<|play is true, and we are playing...perform an action here||play is true, and we are fastforwarding...perform an action here|play is true, and we are rewinding...perform an action here>|||>
08:30:27S_a_i_n_tthis checks for the play state, and then reports (whatever you want it to) for Play (which is obviously we're currently playing) fast forward, and rewind.
08:32:59S_a_i_n_tif you haven't found it already, the manual is the place you want to be looking for skin tags:
08:33:16S_a_i_n_t(I used Nano2G herer as it was just what I was looking at at the time)
08:35:07KiwiCamThanks. BTW. Can you point me to the Theme Builder prog? I found it once and never ever after.
08:39:03KiwiCamSkin Tags...I see conditional, subline, bar...but not skin tags in that link? Where am I going wrong?
08:40:14S_a_i_n_tthey are *all* skin tags.
08:41:07S_a_i_n_tevery single thing on that page is a skin tag.
08:43:16KiwiCamI feel so Zen.
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08:46:08TchnoHello, after installing Rockbox on my Sansa (unsure what version) and restarting, nothing has changed.
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08:46:39KiwiCamHave you turned it off and back on again?
08:47:30TchnoI know I installed version 1, how do I know what version my fuze is?
08:47:40StummiTchno, befor installing rockbox, you should know which version you are having ;)
08:47:44b0hoonLambdaCalculus37: i don't know, work for me. Are you sure you have the source clean? Maybe you should delete it and co fresh...
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08:48:01TchnoHow do I find that, Stummi?
08:48:47KiwiCamIt'll be under system/info scroll down. (Mine's a Clip, but might be similar)
08:49:10S_a_i_n_tTchno: The only way you can find that out is by checking the revision number of the original firmware
08:49:16S_a_i_n_t(the sansa FW)
08:49:26S_a_i_n_tIf it starts with 0.1 you have a V1
08:49:34TchnoVersion: V02.02.26A?
08:49:35S_a_i_n_tif it starts with 0.2 you have a V2
08:49:39S_a_i_n_tyou have a V2
08:49:47TchnoAlright, so uninstall V1 and install V2 then?
08:49:59TchnoEasy enough, thanks
08:50:22S_a_i_n_tKiwiCam: The latest themeeditor (windows binary only) is here:
08:50:49S_a_i_n_tThat is the latest, but, it is still quite a way away from being in sync with current SVN
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08:51:58TchnoHow do I "manually remove the bootloader"?
08:52:19StummiTchno, just download the OF
08:52:57TchnoUhhm, what do I do with it?
08:53:20KiwiCamThanks for the link.
08:53:30TchnoI got "fuzpa" (V2 one) and clpp_data from the website
08:54:06Stummitchan, afair you just have to copy the fuzpa-file to the root-directory of your sansa, umount and restarting it
08:55:00TchnoSo, get rid of fuzea (V1 i wasn't supposed to install) and replace it with the fuzpa?
08:56:08Stummiyes, i think
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08:56:35Stummii never did something with the fuze v1 so i am not sure, but this is what i would try
08:57:18TchnoAfter that, just try re-installing?
08:57:20KiwiCamWhy not use the Installer?
08:57:28TchnoIt told me to do it myself
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09:08:29TchnoJust installed V2, and Rockbox appeared on the screen, does it take a while to load? Or is my player frozen?
09:15:19TchnoAnyone? I let it load on the original firmware to update the media, but when I go back to the new firmware it just stays on the screen that has the Rockbox title and the version
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09:23:01Bagderit should only show that a short moment
09:23:19Bagderhm, or is that the bootloader showing?
09:24:01TchnoI'm uncertain.
09:24:34TchnoFor a moment when it turns on, it flashes a few lines of code in the top left
09:24:43TchnoBut then it just stays on that screen.
09:25:05JdGordon1if you have rockbox installed already open the rockox-info.txt file
09:25:10JdGordon1that will say what version it i
09:25:17Zagorthe non-bootloader splash always shows version, doesn't it?
09:25:23StummiTchno, which version do you use?
09:25:32Tchno:s uhhh
09:25:54Stummii mean the version of rockbox. Where did you get it?
09:26:04Stummiah, ok, I believe
09:27:25StummiTchno, yes. I meaned if you downloaded a "stable" binary, or used the svn-build or something else. You answered already this question ;)
09:27:37Tchnookie dokie
09:28:29TchnoI'm gonna reconnect it and re-install it, as I think something might have gone wrong
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09:38:54TchnoAfter re-installing, no change, still stuck on the rockbox screen
09:39:02TchnoNo options, clicking stuff doesn't do anything
09:40:19TchnoAnybody know whats up with it?
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09:43:01Stummihm, no
09:43:13Stummii am using an fuzev2 too, no problems here
09:43:18TchnoShucks, guess its just unstable for mine :\
09:43:24Stummi(but with an older build)
09:43:42TchnoIs there a way to try the older build?
09:43:45StummiTchno, did you copied the complete .rockbox-dir to your device?
09:44:02TchnoLet me check
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09:45:12Stummiin the simulator the latest svn-build works here too
09:45:37TchnoI believe the whole .rockbox dir is there
09:46:03Stummihm. No idea, sorry
09:46:06TchnoGot a folder at root that's .rockbox with a buncha stoof in it, so I'd assume
09:46:37StummiTchno, are you using windows or linux?
09:49:08Stummidid you umount (or however that is called in windows) the device before plugging it of?
09:49:24TchnoEhh I guess not technically
09:49:47TchnoShould I redo it again then umount it?
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09:50:28Stummii don't know if this is needet on windows
09:51:12TchnoMight as well retry it, worth a shot I guess
09:51:24TchnoI never had issues with songs on it before, but maybe for stuff like this
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09:53:18TchnoIs there a way to get the older build, if that one is working?
09:55:00Stummithere is an parameter in svn afaik, mom
09:55:17Stummi here
09:56:18TchnoWould it present issues if my songs are on it in MTP format, but im installing Rockbox on MSC?
09:58:29AlexPMTP isn't a format
09:58:35AlexPIt's a USB mode
09:58:48AlexPWhat player?
09:58:54TchnoFuze V2
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09:59:05AlexPThen Rockbox won't see any songs copied over MTP
09:59:14TchnoI installed rockbox, but it just stays on the title screen
09:59:17TchnoI can't even look around
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09:59:28AlexPWhen you copy them over MTP the OF changes the names and file extensions, so Rockbox can't find them
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09:59:45AlexPtitle screen as in you can just see the logo?
09:59:48AlexPOr main menu?
09:59:54TchnoLogo and the version
10:00:20AlexPwhat does the version say?
10:00:58AlexPSo that should be Rockbox and not the bootloader then
10:01:12AlexPSorry, I'm just reading up and seeing that you've answered most of these :)
10:01:27TchnoIts fine :p
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10:02:10wodzis there a way to force gcc to inline function which is declared static inline?
10:02:13TchnoSo move my music into the music folder on MSC, then I'll try re-installing it I guess
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10:03:20AlexPYou could try an older daily build to see if it is a recent problem
10:03:33AlexPIt seems only the last three days are available
10:03:35TchnoHow would I go about doing that?
10:04:05TchnoWell, I got mine yesterday, should I update it or try an even older one?
10:04:10AlexPTchno: The music shouldn't stop Rockbox booting, it is just that the database won't be able to find it
10:04:42StummiTchno, you could try the 1020
10:04:47AlexPTchno: You can try, but there have't been any other reports that I know of, so I doubt it will affect anything
10:05:18AlexPoh, the build from the 20th October
10:05:20Tchno10/20 version
10:05:25Stummion the evening here (CEST) i can try it for myself, to update RB to the latest build on my fuze v2
10:05:34AlexP10/20 is highly confusing, there is no 20th month :)
10:06:10AlexPTchno: You can try, you never know
10:06:13Stummihehe, sorry :p
10:06:18wodzAlexP: I found out that gcc is not inlining simple function which is small but called often. Redefining this function as macro gives ~2 times faster PNG decoding on coldfire
10:06:33AlexPBut I can't think of anything in the last couple of days that would have broken it
10:06:37AlexPwodz: awesome :)
10:07:31AlexPTchno: You could try a disk check, something might be corrupted
10:07:36wodzbut why the hell gcc is not inlining function declared static inline ...
10:08:02AlexPTchno: "chkdsk /f x:" in Windows, I think (but it is a long time since I've used windows)
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10:08:25AlexPTchno: To check the filesystem in case it is corrupted
10:08:53AlexPtype that into a command prompt, replacing x: with the driver letter of your fuze
10:09:08Stummiahw.. yes. If i remember right i had also some fs-problems with an older sansa-device. I think they are not using the filesystem-standards 100% correctly on the OF's for the sansas
10:10:01TchnoHow do I open the command prompt? >.> I don't use it often
10:10:21Stummistart -> run -> cmd
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10:11:51Stummiyou can reset/format the disk of the sansa fuze v2 anywhere in the OF. You could try this. (Backup your important files first ;) )
10:12:09TchnoI just checked it, nothing out of the ordinary
10:13:19wodzAlexP: eh, false positive - profiling build suppresses inlining :/
10:13:33TchnoRe-installed bootloader, gonna give it a go now.
10:14:02AlexPwodz: bum :/
10:14:54TchnoAlexP, its still just on the logo/version screen
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10:16:06AlexPTchno: Very odd, I'm not sure what to suggest - I don't have a fuze myself so it might be better to wait for someone who is more knowledgeable about it
10:16:42TchnoAs far as I know I'm doing it right
10:17:05TchnoJust copied the download from 10/20 to the root, then used the utility program to install the bootloader
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10:17:33StummiTchno, how i said, you could try format the device out of the OF. There is a entry for that in the options-menu
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10:17:50TchnoWait, how do I do that?\
10:18:58StummiSettings -> System Settings -> Format
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10:19:40Stummimaybe the fs or partition-table is broken on a way, where can the of and windows can handle this but not rockbox
10:20:32TchnoSo go to format and say yes?
10:21:57StummiTchno, i would say. But all the data on your device will be deleted then
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10:22:09Stummi(your music and so on)
10:22:15TchnoYeah, its backed up, no worries
10:22:21Stummiok :)
10:22:30TchnoThen do I have to re-install it? or just try restarting?
10:26:56TchnoHow long is the Rockbox logo screen even supposed to show for?
10:26:56TchnoNo luck still. It's staying there.
10:28:54Stumminormally it shall be showing for 1-2 secounds
10:29:15StummiSorry, never heard about your problem and i don't have any ideas more
10:29:22TchnoBummer :\
10:29:40Stummiyou could try getting help on the mailinglist or forum
10:29:40TchnoMy friend who has a similar model said he used the V1 build and it worked like a charm
10:29:57TchnoIdk if he has a V1 or V2 sansa though
10:30:01Stummifuzev1 and v2 are optical the same afaik but not technical
10:30:26Stummibut how i said, i have v2 and it works here
10:30:56TchnoIs there some way I could steal your older version? Lol
10:31:48Stummicurrently i have r28068-100913
10:34:40wodzwait for funman
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10:37:47TchnoWhere would I get that older version?
10:38:25StummiTchno, when you are using svn direct you can use the -r parameter
10:38:52TchnoUhhh, ya lost me
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10:39:44Stummihm, how did you installed rockbox?
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10:40:20StummiTchno, how did you installed rockbox?
10:40:25TchnoSorry, my web browser is being grumpy.
10:40:49Stummino problem
10:41:18TchnoI got the 10/20 version before, unzipped it, had the whole .rockbox directory
10:41:20Tchnocopied it to root
10:42:41TchnoI'm going to try the up-to-date one
10:42:59Stummii can build one for you with the old version. mom
10:43:58Tchnookay :o how will i get that?
10:45:22[Saint]Out of interest, are you unzipping the .fockbox folderf from the .zip file, and *then* copying it to the device?
10:45:27[Saint]if so, don't.
10:45:39[Saint]errr...*rockbox, even.
10:46:09TchnoI'm extracting it, then putting it in, yeah
10:46:14TchnoShould I do it differently?
10:46:16[Saint]If you have done so, it is probably wise to delete the entire .rockbox folder from the device and extract it properly
10:46:30[Saint]and then *extract* to the device.
10:46:33[Saint]Not copy to.
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10:47:02[Saint]My guess is that there is still leftovers from the previous V1 installation.
10:47:28TchnoEven after formatting the device? o.O
10:47:47[Saint]Ah, no...if you've formatted it sice, it should be fine.
10:47:51Stummino, there shouldn't be anymore
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10:48:17[Saint]Sorry, I came in late, catching up...didn;t see that you'd formatted it.
10:48:19pixelmaTchno: do you have rockbox files floating around in the root of the device?
10:48:32TchnoI do not believe so.
10:49:56TchnoBesides the default folders, there is a "RES_INFO", a "SYS_CONF", "VIDEO_BM", "MTABLE", "version.sdk" and the ".rockbox" folder
10:52:24TchnoI'm not sure what's wrong :\
10:52:43[Saint]Nor are we ;)
10:53:21StummiTchno, funman is fit with that. Maybe you can try askin later when he is here.
10:53:34[Saint]That's not too likely to happen.
10:53:37StummiBtw, iam building the old release for you atm. When its done i will upload it somewhere
10:53:45[Saint]funman hasn;t been here for quite some time.
10:54:02TchnoCool cool, not sure how much longer I should stay up though. Need to wake up in approx 5 hours.
10:55:06TchnoThink something might be wrong with the bootloader?
10:55:30[Saint]Shouldn;t be...are you using the latest possible bootloader?
10:55:43[Saint]ie. have you installed a new bootloader recently using RBUtil?
10:55:55Stummiwhen you can see the rockbox-logo the bootloaders has already done is job
10:56:04Tchnoohhh. yeah.
10:56:08KiwiCamHi again. So, if I have a bitmap with 10 sub images, how do I get those images to cycle through, repeatedly, whilst play status %mp is Ffwd?
10:56:14[Saint]Oh...right, sorry...FuzeV2 isn;t supported by RBUtil is it.
10:56:16[Saint]My mistake.
10:56:31TchnoNaw, it's just "unstable" on the RBUtil
10:56:41TchnoIt still downloaded on it from RBUtil
10:56:55[Saint]ah...well, did you install a new bootloader?
10:57:30TchnoYeah, I used the fuzpa file from the fuze forums
10:57:38TchnoI'd figure that'd work
10:58:48StummiTchno, the fuzpa-file hast to be patched for rockbox. But this should be done by the rbutil
10:59:09[Saint]KiwiCam: you'll want to use a combination of the %?mp and %t() so: "%?mp<|||%t(timeout)%xd(image_lable and subimage);%t(timeout)%xd(image_lable and subimage);%t(timeout)%xd(image_lable and subimage);%t(timeout)%xd(image_lable and subimage);|>
10:59:36TchnoI did it through rbutil, so pretty sure it should work just fine
11:00:28Stummiwhen you see the rockbox-loading-screen the bootloader works
11:01:10[Saint]so if you want to display image X you'd do : %?mp<|||%t(1)%xd(Xa);%t(1)%xd(Xb);%t(1)%xd(Xc);%t(1)%xd(Xd);%t(1)%xd(Xe);%t(1)%xd(Xf);%t(1)%xd(Xg);%t(1)%xd(Xh);%t(1)%xd(Xi);%t(1)%xd(Xj)|>
11:01:16[Saint]KiwiCam: ^
11:01:59[Saint]that will display image "X" subimages a through j repeatedly when FFwd is true, at 1 second intervals for each subimage
11:02:22[Saint]the lowest possible timeout for %t == 0.1
11:03:20[Saint]There's several examples of animation in the themes of mine I suggested you look at yesterday.
11:03:40wodzteru: there is annoying bug in imageviewer (any format) - max downscale is 8, if image resized by 8 is bigger than LCD_WIDTH, LCD_HEIGHT than you have no ability to go to the next image.
11:07:57KiwiCamSaint: I'm onto it now. Thanks ever so much.
11:08:13[Saint]No problems.
11:08:29[Saint]About this time last year I was asking as many questions as you were ;)
11:08:42[Saint]errr, are.
11:08:50Stummithis is the release that is working for my player
11:09:10TchnoThanks, I'll give it a shot
11:11:40KiwiCamSaint: One more please. If I want it to cycle through the first 10 one time and then the last 5 continuously, how do I do this please?
11:12:57[Saint]I'm not sure you can.
11:13:41[Saint]you can either cycle to the end of the images and stop, or cycle through them all continously.
11:14:05[Saint]s/the end/a designated position/
11:14:32KiwiCamIt's gotten you thinking though ;) Bummer. I have a great bitmap I'd like to use. No chance of using a conditional. I suppose?
11:15:02[Saint]you are using a conditonal ;) But no, there's no condition that can be met for that, sorry.
11:15:15[Saint]Not to my knowledge anyway.
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11:15:44TchnoPretty sure it's still a sitting duck, Stummi
11:16:06KiwiCamMaybe with a subline?
11:16:32[Saint]KiwiCam: You're using sublines.
11:16:34Tchnoversion is r28068-101022
11:16:38[Saint]that's the %t() tag
11:17:04KiwiCamDoh! Strike that.
11:17:57StummiTchno, yes this is correct. The first number shows the svn-revision that is builded the secound the date, when its builded
11:18:29TchnoHuh. Welp, unfortunately it's still stuck on the logo screen
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11:19:34StummiTchno, you can try tp ask in the forum or at the mailinglist.
11:19:41[Saint]It's rather a shame that funman isn;t frequenting these IRC rooms anymore...I'm sure himself (or some other Sansa savvy Dev) would like to get their paws on your player to find out if there is some type of unknown hardward combination that hasn't been seen yet.
11:20:12TchnoI suppose I'll post something in the forum
11:20:29[Saint]The ML will probably be the best bet.
11:20:52StummiTchno, when did you buyed the player?
11:21:02TchnoAbout 9-10 months ago
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11:21:22Stummihm, ok
11:21:37TchnoWhich forum should I post in?
11:21:47[Saint]IIUC it's already known that there are two different "V2" Fuzes, perhaps there is a third.
11:22:08[Saint]Who knows, it's all speculation without seeing the guts of the thing.
11:22:26TchnoYeah, its being a tough bugger whatever the case
11:23:33StummiTchno, i buyed my sansa in oct 09. Maybe something with the hardware changed meanwhile
11:24:19[Saint]I would expect there would have been other reports by now...but it did take quite some time for the "other" V2s to show up,'s possible.
11:24:30KiwiCamSaint: Thanks. All is good. I'll just tweak the bitmaps. Running nicely now.
11:24:55[Saint]KiwiCam: What device are you developing for out of curiousity?
11:25:54StummiHm, thats a problem with vendors they are change their hardware without any notice :/
11:26:54pixelmawodz: there should be a different button (combo) to get to the next image even if the image is bigger than displayed (zoomed or not) IMGVIEW_NEXT/PREVIOUS
11:27:01Stummian openhardware-project for an mp3-player which is working closing togheter rockbox would be a nice thing
11:27:23[Saint]Stummi: There's is such a thing..
11:27:31[Saint]Google Lype Project
11:27:38Bagderopen hardware is unfortunately not very easy
11:27:39[Saint](I think that's what it's called)
11:27:51[Saint]They're using the Chumby Hacker Boards
11:28:37Bagderbut expect to do a lot of work to reach anywhere with that
11:28:37[Saint]There's also the mini2440
11:28:59[Saint]but that's more of a single-board micro-PC that just so happens to run RB also.
11:29:08[Saint]it's horribly over powred for a DAP
11:29:40BagderI disagree
11:29:41Zagorit's not hard getting random hardware to run Rockbox. what's hard is making pocket-sized hardware that can run rockbox.
11:29:44TchnoWell, posted on the forum. I'm going to call it a night.
11:29:48TchnoThanks for the help, Stummi
11:30:09[Saint]at least the mini2440 comes mostly assembled for you, and boots out of the box with a micro linux kernel.
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11:30:26[Saint]Chumby Hacker Boards need a lot of work to get anything running.
11:34:47KiwiCamSaint: Sansa Clip. From the themes I've seen, there aren't any with animations when FF or RW are pressed etc. I intend to improve on my first theme and a few more animations wouldn't go astray.
11:36:27[Saint]KiwiCam: Just keep in mind that you don;t want to go *too* overboard with the's pretty easy to go over the skin buffer limit without using any animations on the Clip(s)
11:36:45[Saint]The skin buffer is only ~12Kb or so IIRC
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11:38:58[Saint]Keep trying your theme on device as you progress, and check the skin buffer left by viewing: System - Rockbox Info - Skin RAM Usage: usedKb/RemainingKb
11:39:18KiwiCamI'll bear that in mind. So is the buffer for just the wps file? what about the theme cfg?
11:40:39[Saint]The buffer stores all the theme syntax from the .wps, .sbs and .fms (and possibly the theme .cfg) plus any and all images loaded, and additional fonts.
11:41:33[Saint]It is possible to go over the skin buffer limit on the Clip(s) with just a very highly text orientated, keep checking how much you have left ;)
11:41:59KiwiCamI see. Some creative bit mapping required then. Why so small a buffer?
11:43:15KiwiCamAs in, is this buffer constant throughout all models of player? 12Kb
11:43:54[Saint]No, the larger the screen...the higher the buffer, also colour targets get a MUCH larger buffer.
11:44:28[Saint]If you don;t want to keep testing the theme on device, download a simulator build, and you can check the skin ram usage there just the same.
11:45:13[Saint]The Clip(s) only have a very small skin buffer because they have a monochrome screen, and the screen is (comparatively) very small.
11:46:28[Saint]the Nano(s) have ~185Kb but that is needed because a single fullscreen backdrop on a 176x132px screen is ~60Kb alone. So, it's all relative.
11:47:01KiwiCamI'm using both. Those sim's are great. My uploaded theme uses 19Kb and there's a 49Kb limit. I'm pretty sure I can fit all within there. I'm thinking I could reuse an existing bitmap in some way to save space. Maybe a reverse?
11:47:42[Saint]Yes, it's always better to re-use a bitmap wherever possible.
11:47:45KiwiCamThat didn't make much sense (the reverse), but I'll play around with an idea i have.
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11:48:30[Saint]And wow, the Clip(s) have gotten a rather large boost in skin buffer since I last remember seeing, you should be fine with ~50Kb
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11:49:43KiwiCam:) Cripes. This is just a theme. I don't even those that have to code Rockbox as a whole.
11:50:11[Saint]Hehe...well, it certainly didn't happen overnight ;D
11:51:04pixelmamonochrome bitmaps (which they are converted to) don't take that much skin buffer - and the backdrop goes into a seperate buffer currently (or should AFAIK)
11:52:05[Saint]I was pretty confident the backdrops go into the skin buffer...Jd came up with a patch to load them into the audio buffer if the skin is loaded before playback is started, but that's not in SVN afaik.
11:52:11[Saint]pixelma: ^
11:55:16KiwiCamBackdrops. You're just talking dirty to me now.
11:55:55pixelmaKiwiCam: don't mind, backdrops aren't available on the Clips anyway
11:56:29KiwiCamI feel so inadequate :(
11:56:57[Saint]Is anyone able to confirm FS #11695 ( )?
11:57:30[Saint]It's regarding sort order, which I'm pretty sure was resolved...I'm not seeing this on my devices, so I'm thinking there's a setting he's missing.
11:57:42KiwiCamThanks Y'all. Smell you later. Have a good night/day. Greatly appreciated.
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12:14:32pixelma[Saint]: the backdrop thing seems to have changed in some rework at least going by the displayed skin buffer numbers. Not sure if that's intended or not
12:15:10[Saint]the buffers increased rather dramatically with the parser rework.
12:15:29pixelmayes, and?
12:15:59[Saint]I was just adding that in there, I guess I mirinterpreted what you werer saying.
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13:11:57b0hoonWhat is the purpose of finding the key in the mi4 image (OF) through the bootloader?
13:15:05linuxstbb0hoon: You're talking about the Rockbox bootloader?
13:15:14b0hoonlinuxstb: yes
13:16:27linuxstbI think it's to decrypt the OF MI4 file.
13:17:19b0hoonlinuxstb: yes, but we have the table of the keys and we already know the model
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13:18:55linuxstbb0hoon: Ah, so you mean why is there a table of keys, instead of deciding at compile-time with #ifdefs ?
13:20:07b0hoonlinuxstb: for example, or we could sort the table according to the model
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13:20:58linuxstbI don't know. It seems to have been added with this commit, which doesn't explain it at all -
13:22:32b0hoonlinuxstb: for the long images and when the key is at the and of the table it's slooow
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13:23:05linuxstbYes, it does seem an odd thing to do. barrywardell isn't active any more though, so we can't ask him if there was a reason he did that.
13:23:54linuxstbBut it would seem safe to at least #ifdef the items in that table,
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13:27:26Bagdercould be an added precaution that the key would change?
13:28:13Bagderat least initially, they updated the bootloader and since that holds the key it could in theory get changed
13:28:45b0hoonBagder: yes, but it still has to be added to the table
13:29:06Bagderright, then it doesn't add anything...
13:32:47linuxstbI have a feeling that code was just copied from sansapatcher, where it would be more sensible to have the list of known keys.
13:33:08linuxstbSo for the bootloaders, it should have been changed to only check applicable keys.
13:33:37*linuxstb can't define "applicable" though...
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13:50:23n1sI think FS #11695 is a bug report about the intended behaviour and if you want the "interpret numbers" kind of sorting you have to edit your tagnavi file, or have i misunderstood?
13:53:42b0hoonit's not a bug IMO too.
13:55:07n1si just want some confirmation before closing it, since i don't use the database and don't know for sure this is a tagnavi thing
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14:04:51wodz\o/ - I finally squashed bug in mpio bootloader which prevented boot to OF when doing coldboot on battery
14:05:58tmzt_does the android version unzip everytime it starts? is there a noticible delay from that?
14:07:20tmzt_okay, missed the sentinal
14:08:01Zagortmzt_: only if is updated
14:12:31CIA-107New commit by wodz (r28324): MPIO HD200 - squash long standing bug in bootloader which prevented booting OF if doing coldstart on battery only.
14:12:31CIA-107New commit by wodz (r28325): MPIO HD200 - revert change in crt0.S introduced in r28270 to get rid of strange noise produced by buttons on startup
14:13:48CIA-107r28324 build result: All green
14:15:34CIA-107r28325 build result: All green
14:15:53wodzWhere can I find instructions how to release bootloader? I know I have to create tag, build binary (with somehow version set) and upload it somewhere.
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14:17:16n1swodz: that's basically it, ask one of The Swedes to put it on the download server
14:17:48wodzhow to build bootloader with version set?
14:18:04wodzthere was some switch to configure IIRC
14:18:20n1sIIRC make VERSION=x.y
14:25:11n1slooking at th scripts this seems to have changed
14:25:56wodzI thought bootloader release process is described somewhere on the wiki but I can't find it
14:28:46CIA-107New commit by wodz (r28326): Set svn properties
14:29:38[Saint]I tried to verify FS #11695, and couldn't.
14:29:55[Saint]I haven't done anything to any of that code..and mine are sorted as should be.
14:30:24[Saint]1,2,3,4,5,6..,10,11,100,..,111,112,113, etc.
14:30:26CIA-107r28326 build result: All green
14:31:24CIA-107New commit by wodz (r28327): Tag release v1 of the MPIO HD200 bootloader
14:35:53linuxstbn1s: make VERSION=x.y doesn't work any more?
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14:36:38n1slinuxstb: i dunno, the release scrips don't seem to use it but i'm not really at home in the buildsystem
14:37:24*LambdaCalculus37 has managed to successfully build the HDD6330 build, bootloader, and sim... all green. :)
14:38:51LambdaCalculus37b0hoon's work on getting the UI sim to build has earned him a case of beers. :)
14:39:37[Saint] there some .cfg setting I just reverted my config file to defaults and still I get sort order in the DB completely as I would expect: (natural count of sequential numbers...1,2,3...10,11,12...99,100,111,112).
14:39:44[Saint]Is there something I'm missing?
14:40:03[Saint]I haven't touched tagnavi, or any DB's all voodoo to me.
14:40:07wodztools/ RBVERSION "$VERSION" so I think building with VERSION set is ok
14:40:16n1s[Saint]: don't think you miss anything
14:40:49[Saint]n1s: Awesome, just that I tried to verify FS #11695, and I noticed you looked at it also.
14:40:59[Saint]I wonder why I get totally different results.
14:41:12n1she probably changed something then :)
14:41:42[Saint]"Reason for Closing: What're you smokin' son?!?"
14:41:49n1si agree though that it makes some kind of sense for crazy-sort to be deafult in the database :)
14:42:22wodzshould rockbox-info.txt reflect version I have set when building?
14:42:32*[Saint] agrees that it makes "some kind of sense" but doesn't want to go into what "some kind" means ;)
14:42:48[Saint]I prefer a "natural" sort order personally..I' not a robot ;P
14:45:33b0hoonLambdaCalculus37: better would be the mainboard for my HDD6330, however i don't remember when i was drinking the beer last time ;)
14:46:18LambdaCalculus37b0hoon: Have you successfully built the HDD6330 build, bootloader, and sim?
14:46:55LambdaCalculus37I tried all three on the bus ride into the work... all three are green on my end.
14:47:43b0hoonLambdaCalculus37: yes.
14:48:00LambdaCalculus37b0hoon: Excellent. :)
14:48:30LambdaCalculus37Shall we have the HDD6330 added to the build system, then?
14:49:14b0hoonit's without the plugins but it can be i think
14:49:29LambdaCalculus37b0hoon: The SA9200 doesn't have plugins enabled, either, and it's on the build system.
14:50:09LambdaCalculus37b0hoon: What's needed for the SA9200 is just some artwork for rockblox and a couple of other plugins that don't have artwork made for the 128x160 resolution.
14:50:12b0hooni can't do it till the next week
14:50:18CIA-107New commit by teru (r28328): simplify rockbox_browse a bit and reuse buffer. ...
14:50:50LambdaCalculus37b0hoon: lowlight's mailing me the HDD6330 I lent him back to me, so I'll be working on plugin keymaps once it gets here.
14:52:12CIA-107r28328 build result: All green
14:52:34b0hoonLambdaCalculus37: that's great :)
14:55:24LambdaCalculus37b0hoon: Oh, before I forget... I can't do it right now, but can you also build the HDD6330 and try Checkwps?
14:56:51b0hoonLambdaCalculus37: right now i'm at work and then i'm leaving, sorry :(
14:57:04LambdaCalculus37b0hoon: Ahh, okay. I'll try during my lunch time.
14:57:10amiconnwodz: If you have a function that must always be inlined, you can use the __attribute__((always_inline)). This is a gcc extension; it will make gcc inline the function regardless of optimisation level (even for -O0)
14:57:46wodzamiconn: even with -fnoinline added to compile flags?
14:58:08amiconnI would think so
14:58:43amiconnDon't use it unless actually necessary, i.e. if the function won't work when not inlined (should apply to very low level stuff only)
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15:00:14wodzIf I do make VERSION=x.y should this be reflected in rockbox-info.txt and in version.h?
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15:18:14LambdaCalculus37Question... I'm going to be committing FS #10937 before the end of today; the pastebin is here: and as the wps syntax shows, the SA9200 cabbiev2 port uses most of the same graphics as other cabbie ports, save for the 128x160 backdrop. So all I have to do to commit the WPS is just have the appropriate backdrop graphics and this WPS, correct?
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15:24:36AlexPLambdaCalculus37: Also trunk/wps/WPSLIST
15:24:52AlexPDoes need anything as well?
15:26:13AlexPLambdaCalculus37: You should of course add your files/make your changes locally, then do a build and see if the correct WPS is included
15:26:57LambdaCalculus37AlexP: Righto.
15:27:11LambdaCalculus37AlexP: Regarding, no, I don't believe so.
15:27:28AlexPI don't either, but if you test it you'll find out :)
15:27:46LambdaCalculus37AlexP: Okay, I'll make sure.
15:28:08wodzAlexP: do You know something about building with version set (for bootloader release)?
15:28:15LambdaCalculus37I did notice that the guy who updated FS #10937 forgot to add in the menu backdrop and the progressbar graphic, so I'll have to make sure those get loaded.
15:28:27AlexPwodz: I thought it was just make VERSION=whatever ?
15:28:51wodzshould it be reflected in version.h and rockbox-info.txt?
15:29:04AlexPI'd guess so, one mo
15:29:16LambdaCalculus37AlexP: So it's just a matter of making sure that trunk/wps/WPSLIST has the appropriate information needed for the LCD resolution for the device, and points to necessary graphics, correct?
15:29:17wodzI think this is broken
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15:29:43AlexPLambdaCalculus37: I think so, but I'm not certain
15:30:40AlexPwodz: Yeah, rockbox-info.txt for 3.6 says "Version: 3.6"
15:30:42LambdaCalculus37AlexP: Okie dokie. And I just noticed that the progressbar graphic is loaded appropriately in the WPS. :)
15:31:17wodzheh - rather critical bug when release is just around the corner :-)
15:32:14wodzI think it comest from - It always overwrite VERSION shell variable
15:32:17linuxstbwodz: Are you talking about bootloaders or the main build. I wouldn't assume things are the same. Plus bootloaders aren't part of releases.
15:33:03wodzpassing VERSION=x.y should be honored and I think it isn't
15:33:30AlexPwodz: for builds, it seems to be tools/
15:33:40AlexPaccording to
15:33:55linuxstbwodz: It certainly used to be honoured. I don't know what changed...
15:34:22wodzI'll look at it later, have to go
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17:09:03LambdaCalculus37toffe82: Did you see that b0hoon got the HDD6330 sim to build?
17:09:24toffe82LambdaCalculus37: no
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18:39:34kugelI think I can add support for the cyanogenmod lock screen media controls but I don't know if that works for other roms that have this
18:39:40kugelI wonder how winamp does it..
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19:45:07guest001Can anybody try this:
19:45:19guest001Init the tagdb (if it's not already initialised)
19:45:30guest001copy tagnavi.config to tagnavi_custom.config
19:45:37guest001and reboot your player
19:46:57TorneThat isn't going to work, that's not how tagnavi_custom works
19:47:03Tornethe custom one is included into the regular one
19:47:11Torneso by copying it like that, that's made it recursive :)
19:47:29Tornetagnavi.config includes tagnavi_custom.config which includes tagnavi_custom.config which includes.. etc
19:47:57Tornei assume it probably crashes, or similar ;)
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19:48:07guest001how can I prevent it to be overwritten?
19:48:14Tornewhat do you mean?
19:48:31JesusFreak316Would this or the #rockbox-community be the right channel to ask about compiling for android?
19:48:47guest001when I change tagnavi.cfg and updates it get overwritten
19:48:57Torneyou aren't expected to change tagnavi.config at all
19:49:07Tornejust put the things you want to have that are different in _custom
19:49:12Tornedon't duplicate all the existing entries
19:49:26AlexPJesusFreak316: If it is compiling Rockbox, then here :)
19:49:27Tornee.g. if you want to add one menu, then you only put that one extra menu in the _custom one
19:49:44JesusFreak316AlexP Thanks.
19:49:50Torneit's specifically designed so you don't have to edit the existing one at all
19:49:52guest001Is the wiki page outdated?
19:49:59Torneno, the wiki page explains this
19:50:03Tornefairly well, i thought
19:51:03Torneread the first two paragraphs
19:51:08JesusFreak316I am trying to compile for vga, so I set the screen width to 480 and the height to 640 yet the text is still tiny and in the top left corner like it's qvga. Is that just because of the small font size or might I have done something wrong?
19:51:44AlexPI don't know android at all, but you could always change the font and see
19:51:47Tornethats just the font size
19:51:56Tornechanging the screen size doesn't really change any of the UI at all
19:52:02Torneotehr than allowing things to extend further right/down
19:52:08guest001ok, I didn't see %include "/.rockbox/tagnavi_custom.config"
19:52:28JesusFreak316Ah, ok. Good to know. Where is the .rockbox folder in the android port?
19:52:44JesusFreak316I don't know how to install fonts without that.
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20:41:04wodzfunman: ping
20:44:35wodzI think that make VERSION=x.y was broken by r26320
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20:46:21JesusFreak316Yeah, looks like my apk compiled correctly. Thanks guys. Does anyone know where the .rockbox folder is on Android or at least how I could install fonts?
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20:55:39pixelmawodz: with the latest MAS-cleanup patch you posted, I still can't compile an OndioFM sim. I just switched off the computer I used for a test build but IIRC it was complaining about a missing reference to mascodec.h in hmm... action.o (not so sure about that one)
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20:57:15wodzpixelma: that's very strange because I tested this patch on freash svn checkout
20:57:46pixelmaI even did a make clean and reconfigure
20:58:05wodzthanks for reporting
20:59:27pixelmaI might add that I don't build a standard sim - I chose "Backlight mod" from the advanced build options and I built on cygwin
21:00:22wodzcygwin is irrelevant I think
21:01:39pixelmaso a backlight mod sim
21:02:03pixelmaI can't imagine that it plays a roll either
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21:11:59wodzI have simple fix for broken make VERSION=x.y - posted it to FS #11697
21:12:40wodzI am not an expert of the buildsystem however so please review this.
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23:45:12XaNdErk29can someone help me
23:45:53*alexbobP gives XaNdErk29 a bottle of help
23:46:26XaNdErk29am i heard
23:46:35alexbobPnobody can help you
23:46:40alexbobPbecause you have not asked a question
23:46:59XaNdErk29wow this shit is slow on the web chat but i cant get irc client to connect
23:47:07alexbobPI'm not gonna trace your ip, find out where you live, come over, to your house, and read your mind... too much work for a stranger
23:47:31XaNdErk29im laggin so friggin bad srry yall for the msgs
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23:48:18XaNdErk29i am trying to install rockbox with the auto install app and when i go to install the rockbox app it gives me an err of cannot create file
23:48:24XaNdErk29what am i doing wrong?
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23:48:46XaNdErk29i have ipod nano 1g and it is in disk mode/recovery
23:48:58XaNdErk29its empty, updated to latst appl frmwr
23:49:06XaNdErk29but no matter what i do it dont work
23:49:12XaNdErk29do i have to install manuly>?
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23:49:34alexbobPwhat file is it saying it can't create?
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23:50:05webguest126srry got bootd
23:50:13webguest126had to shut down antivir
23:50:16webguest126no lag now
23:50:29webguest126ill take a scrnsht of it if need be but
23:50:50krazykitplease try to use real words when you type. those using screenreaders may have trouble understanding you
23:51:11webguest126ok installer app says
23:51:36webguest126downloading file
23:51:44webguest126cached file used
23:51:48webguest126download finished
23:51:52webguest126extracting file
23:52:05webguest126extracting failed:unable to create a directory..
23:52:11webguest126what does this mean?
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23:53:10XaNdEr2k9do i have to install apps manually
23:53:18krazykitit sounds like your filesystem is not writable. you could do a filesystem check on it, using chkdisk
23:53:24XaNdEr2k9maybe auto-install is screwed?
23:53:54robin0800have you a fat file system?
23:54:05XaNdEr2k9im pretty sure i do
23:54:28XaNdEr2k9i had itunes restore ipod when i got it
23:55:07XaNdEr2k9i just bought it today from somebody off craigslist and sent it through itunes to format and reset dev
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23:55:14robin0800XaNdEr2k9: on a windows machine?
23:55:43XaNdEr2k9yes i run win vista and kubuntu dual boot
23:55:49XaNdEr2k9tried in both OSes
23:55:58XaNdEr2k9linux boot didnt work for shit for me
23:56:10XaNdEr2k9windows i get to the extracting failed problem
23:56:21XaNdEr2k9should i manually reformat in fat?
23:56:24krazykitcan you create directories or files on the device from explorer?
23:56:37XaNdEr2k9checkin now
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23:57:39XaNdEr2k9seemingly no
23:57:57XaNdEr2k9it gives option to create new folder but nothing happens
23:58:27krazykitsounds like the filesystem is broken
23:58:32robin0800XaNdEr2k9: did you enable disk mode in i tunes
23:58:35XaNdEr2k9it says filesystem is fat32
23:58:43XaNdEr2k9no i didnt enable in itunes
23:59:01XaNdEr2k9i manually enabled through select+play

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