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| 00:06:17 | saratoga | anyone have a theory why putting DEBUGF inside a macro will randomly work just fine, or else fail with an undefined reference to "ci" depending apparently on the order of compilation? |
| 00:07:19 | saratoga | i don't see any obvious reason why the preprocessor should make this more or less likely to work |
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| 00:12:20 | JdGordon | S_a_i_n_t: I dont know if its possible to check if usb is actually connected as MSC |
| 00:12:37 | S_a_i_n_t | JdGordon: Ahhhh...bugger :/ |
| 00:12:46 | JdGordon | it should be though |
| 00:12:50 | JdGordon | ask gevaerts |
| 00:12:50 | S_a_i_n_t | That would indeed be a nice addition to the USB screen if it were possible. |
| 00:13:23 | S_a_i_n_t | You know what I mean right? A "Safe to Remove Hardware" splash/bitmap/etc. |
| 00:13:41 | S_a_i_n_t | (various DAP OSes have this) |
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| 00:14:21 | S_a_i_n_t | A combination of the tag I suggested (if possible), and adding USB screen to %cs would/should make that possible. |
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| 00:20:19 | CIA-107 | New commit by b0hoon (r28323): HDD6330: add the simulator. |
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| 00:22:18 | CIA-107 | r28323 build result: All green |
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| 00:33:25 | LambdaCalculus37 | b0hoon_: Thanks for getting the HDD6330 sim to build! I'm buying you beers! :D |
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| 00:41:11 | LambdaCalculus37 | Eh? Why am I getting this error when building a sim? http://lambdacalculus379.pastebin.com/RzbXmMBu |
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| 00:50:39 | wodz | I have simple question for which I can't find answer (which means I ask wrong question to the google). If I load some elf object with dlopen() it will return ptr to link_map structure. link_map has the field called l_addr which is described as 'Base load address' |
| 00:51:13 | wodz | Now what is at this address? .text section form loaded object or some header or what? |
| 00:51:24 | wodz | s/form/from/ |
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| 01:00:08 | S_a_i_n_t | LambdaCalculus37: Your pastebin doesn't seem to be working for me...sorry :-/ |
| 01:01:13 | LambdaCalculus37 | S_a_i_n_t: It works here. |
| 01:02:11 | S_a_i_n_t | Hmmm...weird. I'm getting 404 here. |
| 01:02:11 | S_a_i_n_t | Odd. |
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| 01:29:19 | PatrickBateman | I have a problem |
| 01:29:33 | S_a_i_n_t | Best thing to do is just ask your question. |
| 01:29:35 | PatrickBateman | my ipod nano's buttons don't work |
| 01:29:45 | PatrickBateman | iPod Nano 1st Gen |
| 01:29:57 | S_a_i_n_t | Is it just in rockbox that they don't work? |
| 01:29:57 | PatrickBateman | I can reset through Menu and the middle button fine |
| 01:30:02 | S_a_i_n_t | Have you tried a hard reset? |
| 01:30:12 | PatrickBateman | hard reset? |
| 01:30:18 | PatrickBateman | how do I do it? |
| 01:30:24 | S_a_i_n_t | Aha...well, can you boot into the Apple Firmware and check if the buttons work there |
| 01:30:40 | S_a_i_n_t | hard reset == Menu+Select |
| 01:30:46 | S_a_i_n_t | If that works, it's a good sign. |
| 01:31:11 | PatrickBateman | It boots straight back to rockbox |
| 01:31:13 | S_a_i_n_t | But, boot into the Apple firmware, and check if the buttons are working as expected there. |
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| 01:31:41 | LambdaCalculus37 | PatrickBateman: Do another reset like S_a_i_n_t described, but hold SELECT+BACK until the diagnostic mode appears. |
| 01:31:46 | S_a_i_n_t | Hold Menu+Select until it reboots, and then press and hold Menu immediately. |
| 01:31:51 | LambdaCalculus37 | You can then test that the buttons are actually registering. |
| 01:31:59 | S_a_i_n_t | AHa, good point. |
| 01:32:06 | PatrickBateman | bope |
| 01:32:11 | PatrickBateman | it goes straight back to Rockbox |
| 01:32:12 | LambdaCalculus37 | Bope? |
| 01:32:25 | S_a_i_n_t | You're doing something wrong then, sorry. |
| 01:32:38 | LambdaCalculus37 | PatrickBateman: Do one more, and then immediately press and hold BACK+SELECT. |
| 01:32:51 | LambdaCalculus37 | As in, the minute it resets, immediately press the second button combo. |
| 01:33:07 | S_a_i_n_t | hold menu+selct and as it is reboting *immediately* hold select and previous (back). |
| 01:33:14 | S_a_i_n_t | err...yeah, as LambdaCalculus37 said. |
| 01:33:34 | PatrickBateman | rockbox keeps trying to boot real fast |
| 01:33:38 | PatrickBateman | I do this |
| 01:33:42 | PatrickBateman | flip hold off and on |
| 01:33:48 | S_a_i_n_t | You need to be pretty quick. |
| 01:33:51 | PatrickBateman | Menu+Select |
| 01:34:01 | PatrickBateman | the screen goes blank onto apple logo |
| 01:34:08 | PatrickBateman | then i quicky hit back and select and hold |
| 01:34:15 | PatrickBateman | Rockbox boots up and I lose all hope |
| 01:34:45 | LambdaCalculus37 | PatrickBateman: Try this, and don't involve the hold switch. |
| 01:34:46 | S_a_i_n_t | Ok, um...try this. Reboot the iPod and as it is rebooting (as soon as the screen goes black) flip the hold switch on. |
| 01:34:55 | LambdaCalculus37 | Press Play to power off the iPod from Rockbox. |
| 01:34:56 | S_a_i_n_t | err...too many cooks ;) |
| 01:34:59 | S_a_i_n_t | Ok, ignore me ;) |
| 01:35:09 | PatrickBateman | WOAH |
| 01:35:13 | PatrickBateman | WOAH |
| 01:35:16 | PatrickBateman | APPLE FIRMWARE |
| 01:35:28 | LambdaCalculus37 | PatrickBateman: Got it? |
| 01:35:30 | PatrickBateman | flip the hold switch on. |
| 01:35:40 | PatrickBateman | brb food |
| 01:35:48 | S_a_i_n_t | yes, hold boots the Apple FW also. |
| 01:36:16 | S_a_i_n_t | If the buttons are working as expected there, all you should need to do is a clean install of rockbox. |
| 01:36:45 | S_a_i_n_t | ie. delete your .rockbox folder, and re-install it (remembering to backup your config.cfg if you wish to) |
| 01:37:15 | LambdaCalculus37 | S_a_i_n_t: But it's always best to do a complete reinstall from within Rockbox Utility. |
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| 01:38:26 | S_a_i_n_t | Yeah, it is I suppose. I have had RBUtil leave leftovers behind myself, but it probably is beter to use it. |
| 01:39:49 | PatrickBateman | oh question |
| 01:39:59 | PatrickBateman | buttons still dont work |
| 01:40:00 | PatrickBateman | however |
| 01:40:08 | PatrickBateman | is there a way to control rockbox via pc |
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| 01:40:20 | S_a_i_n_t | The buttons don't work in the Apple Firmware either? |
| 01:40:25 | PatrickBateman | nope |
| 01:40:32 | JdGordon| | then the player is dead |
| 01:40:40 | PatrickBateman | Ive tried google and they said disassmebed and reassembled, sitll nothing\ |
| 01:40:58 | PatrickBateman | I wish I had one of those dock things |
| 01:41:05 | PatrickBateman | where you can control it externally |
| 01:41:06 | S_a_i_n_t | You could *try* doing a complete refresh using iTunes...but, it probably won't do anything. |
| 01:41:23 | PatrickBateman | hmm |
| 01:41:59 | S_a_i_n_t | If you opened the player, without any experience, you may have even caused it more harm. |
| 01:41:59 | PatrickBateman | probably not |
| 01:42:19 | PatrickBateman | It works perfectly fine, Im expirenced in breaking things open |
| 01:42:24 | PatrickBateman | but the buttons |
| 01:42:24 | PatrickBateman | man |
| 01:42:34 | S_a_i_n_t | Well, no..it doesn't work fine at all. |
| 01:42:39 | S_a_i_n_t | The buttons don't work ;) |
| 01:42:41 | saratoga | it works perfectly fine except that its "dead" |
| 01:42:48 | PatrickBateman | but |
| 01:42:57 | JdGordon| | except if hard reset works they do a bit |
| 01:42:57 | PatrickBateman | is there a way to control rockbox via PC USB? |
| 01:43:10 | PatrickBateman | OH YEAh |
| 01:43:14 | PatrickBateman | I JUST REALIZED THAT |
| 01:43:18 | S_a_i_n_t | JdGordon|; Yeah...I find that odd too. |
| 01:43:22 | PatrickBateman | if the buttons for hard reset work |
| 01:43:32 | PatrickBateman | why is my ipod not recieveing commands then |
| 01:43:41 | S_a_i_n_t | Try a full restore using iTunes, but I doubt it will do any good. |
| 01:43:48 | PatrickBateman | im afriad it wont |
| 01:43:52 | PatrickBateman | then it'll fully be dead |
| 01:43:57 | S_a_i_n_t | well, don't then. |
| 01:44:01 | PatrickBateman | because I'd need to choose my default language |
| 01:44:08 | S_a_i_n_t | But it's not going to fix itself. |
| 01:44:36 | PatrickBateman | is the config.cfg editble with notepad or the like? |
| 01:44:43 | LambdaCalculus37 | PatrickBateman: Have you tried entering diagnostic mode on the iPod yet? |
| 01:44:43 | S_a_i_n_t | Of course. |
| 01:44:59 | PatrickBateman | Lambda: Too scurred to |
| 01:45:19 | PatrickBateman | Is rockbox controllble if I use my PC? I hate to ask again |
| 01:45:30 | S_a_i_n_t | well, don't be. It will really help if you actually try the things we're suggesting. |
| 01:45:45 | PatrickBateman | okay |
| 01:45:52 | S_a_i_n_t | Entering Diagnostic mode will tell us if it is actually recieving button input. |
| 01:45:57 | PatrickBateman | If you'll help me emotionally |
| 01:45:57 | S_a_i_n_t | it won;t "hurt" your player. |
| 01:46:02 | PatrickBateman | I'll do it |
| 01:46:07 | PatrickBateman | what do I need to do? |
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| 01:46:16 | PatrickBateman | do I need to disable Rockbox? |
| 01:46:22 | S_a_i_n_t | as LambdaCalculus37 said earlier: |
| 01:46:42 | S_a_i_n_t | Reboot the player, and as it is rebooting quickly hold select+previous(back) |
| 01:47:15 | PatrickBateman | okay I tried and it gets me to rockbox |
| 01:47:33 | PatrickBateman | If I put the apple boot back on, it should work, right? |
| 01:47:48 | S_a_i_n_t | If you can get into the Apple FW I see no reason why you can't get into diagnostic mode aside from user error. |
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| 01:48:29 | PatrickBateman | because the Rockbox FW might not be able to make it enter dianostic |
| 01:48:31 | PatrickBateman | unlees you mean |
| 01:48:36 | PatrickBateman | Menu select |
| 01:48:46 | PatrickBateman | then when its rebooting flip it to hold and then back+select |
| 01:49:34 | Llorean | The diagnostic mode happens *before* any Rockbox code is loaded. We can't prevent it even by accident. |
| 01:49:43 | S_a_i_n_t | No, I mean: hold Menu+Select until it reboots, and as it is rebooting (as soon as the screen goes black hold Menu+Previous and keep it held until the diagnostic mode appears |
| 01:49:46 | PatrickBateman | okay |
| 01:50:00 | PatrickBateman | lemme try |
| 01:50:05 | PatrickBateman | I dont mean to annoy any of you |
| 01:50:13 | PatrickBateman | im just trying to make sure it isnt this that or the other thing |
| 01:50:30 | S_a_i_n_t | So are we. |
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| 01:52:15 | PatrickBateman | hmm |
| 01:52:24 | PatrickBateman | I keep trying and no such luck |
| 01:53:29 | PatrickBateman | hmm |
| 01:53:35 | PatrickBateman | menu previous, right |
| 01:53:41 | PatrickBateman | and not select previous? |
| 01:54:43 | S_a_i_n_t | No |
| 01:54:44 | S_a_i_n_t | [12:47] <S_a_i_n_t> Reboot the player, and as it is rebooting quickly hold select+previous(back) |
| 01:54:54 | S_a_i_n_t | SELECT+PREVIOUS |
| 01:55:15 | PatrickBateman | kk |
| 01:55:21 | PatrickBateman | you said Menu previous earlier |
| 01:55:28 | PatrickBateman | so I was curious which one |
| 01:56:23 | S_a_i_n_t | No, I didn't actually..sorry. |
| 01:56:33 | PatrickBateman | <S_a_i_n_t> No, I mean: hold Menu+Select until it reboots, and as it is rebooting (as soon as the screen goes black hold Menu+Previous and keep it held until the diagnostic mode appears |
| 01:56:35 | PatrickBateman | :> |
| 01:56:46 | S_a_i_n_t | yes, you misread. |
| 01:56:58 | S_a_i_n_t | Oh...shit..sorry ;) |
| 01:57:03 | S_a_i_n_t | haha...yes, I did. |
| 01:57:26 | PatrickBateman | okey dokey |
| 01:57:27 | PatrickBateman | so |
| 01:57:35 | PatrickBateman | lets see here |
| 01:58:46 | PatrickBateman | im hard resetting |
| 01:58:52 | PatrickBateman | wait nvm |
| 01:58:58 | saratoga | does this have anything to do with rockbox? if not, maybe you should take it to private chat or -community |
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| 02:00:16 | PatrickBateman | kk |
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| 06:55:43 | [AndrewR] | hi all |
| 06:56:29 | [AndrewR] | I'm trying to print a date in string form, like "Wed Aug 2" etc |
| 06:56:58 | [AndrewR] | is there anything like strftime I can use from my plugin in c? |
| 06:57:05 | [AndrewR] | I saw a lui impl of strftime.. |
| 06:58:40 | gevaerts | the lua plugin seems ton have its own strftime, yes |
| 06:59:07 | gevaerts | You could copy that, or move that file to pluins/lib (which probably makes sense anyway) |
| 06:59:26 | [AndrewR] | but my plugin is in C |
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| 07:00:50 | gevaerts | yes, so is the the implementation used by lua... |
| 07:02:37 | [AndrewR] | oh, so it is. I thought it was lua for some reason |
| 07:02:56 | [AndrewR] | ok, that should work. thanks |
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| 07:53:44 | KiwiCam | Hi. Beginner questions to follow. %mp - play status. Is it possible to run an animation when RW or FF has been pressed, say with alternating sublines? |
| 07:54:25 | JdGordon| | that is exactly how you'd do it |
| 07:55:45 | KiwiCam | OK. So...what's the smallest time interval before you can show the next bitmap portion? 2 seconds? |
| 07:56:11 | JdGordon| | 0.1s |
| 07:56:24 | KiwiCam | Great. |
| 07:56:28 | JdGordon| | in theory anyway... |
| 07:57:37 | KiwiCam | OK. I'm still trying to get it to work for me. But, at least I know I'm on the right track. Is it possible to store a value, or detect if a value has changed? |
| 07:57:46 | JdGordon| | no |
| 07:58:07 | KiwiCam | :( |
| 07:58:13 | JdGordon| | not yet anyway |
| 07:58:21 | JdGordon| | what would you use it for? |
| 07:59:01 | KiwiCam | I'm not sure :] I'm still just working out the Rockbox potential. |
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| 08:00:21 | KiwiCam | Maybe to see if say I've passed a certain % of the track time and then start another animation??? |
| 08:00:55 | JdGordon| | you can do that with the track position tag |
| 08:00:58 | JdGordon| | I think |
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| 08:01:48 | KiwiCam | I'm going to have to Google IRC commands and study up :) |
| 08:02:07 | KiwiCam | But Rockbox comes first :] |
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| 08:04:04 | KiwiCam | %px. Got it. Thanks. I hadn' spotted that. Interesting. Hmm... |
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| 08:10:57 | KiwiCam | So, how about something like: Check variable. If this is Play and Play Status is FF, then do this, else if RW then, else Pause then...Don't mean to be a pain. Just throwing ideas out. I think that's the last for now. |
| 08:12:19 | kugel | the Winamp app for android reacts on the music controls in the lock screen. I wonder if we could do the same (and how) |
| 08:12:51 | kugel | I found no sign of an api for that |
| 08:13:21 | S_a_i_n_t | KiwiCam: What you're suggesting is entirely possibly arlready |
| 08:13:31 | S_a_i_n_t | nothing need be implemented to achieve that. |
| 08:14:03 | S_a_i_n_t | you might want to look at the %mp condition |
| 08:14:04 | KiwiCam | Clearly I need to bone up a little more :) |
| 08:14:28 | S_a_i_n_t | Indeed. ;) |
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| 08:16:18 | KiwiCam | Would you mind giving an example to help me along? Say if rewind was prior to play then, else if FF then.. |
| 08:16:55 | KiwiCam | the s/b else if it WAS ff. |
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| 08:18:34 | S_a_i_n_t | I'm not sure I understand how that would be useful, myself...um...I'm actually not sure that can be done. there's no way to check if a tag *was* true, if if it is. |
| 08:18:55 | S_a_i_n_t | I guess I misunderstod what you were wanting to do, sorry. |
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| 08:19:15 | S_a_i_n_t | s/if it is/only if it is/ |
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| 08:20:20 | S_a_i_n_t | It's possible to check if any required tags are in a true state at the same time, but what you're asking would require a record of past commands/events to be kept...and that doesn't happen. |
| 08:21:09 | KiwiCam | This is why I was wondering if there was some way of storing a variable. A toggle? |
| 08:21:33 | S_a_i_n_t | Nope. you can only check for true or false states. |
| 08:21:52 | KiwiCam | And you can't set any states? Correct? |
| 08:22:03 | S_a_i_n_t | I keep re-reading your post I responded to, and I read it completely differently to what you described secondarily. |
| 08:22:22 | S_a_i_n_t | I'm not sure what you're asking there. |
| 08:22:29 | KiwiCam | Don't worry. I'm a confusing kind of guy. |
| 08:22:45 | S_a_i_n_t | You can't force a state to be true if it isn't, or false if it isn't... |
| 08:23:37 | KiwiCam | OK. I'm fine with that. Just wondering. A toggle would be nice. It's not a deal breaker anyway. |
| 08:24:27 | S_a_i_n_t | well, the thing is...all the tags *are* kinda like a toggle. |
| 08:24:44 | S_a_i_n_t | every true state has a false state...you just can't keep a record of events. |
| 08:26:01 | KiwiCam | Thanks for your patience. |
| 08:27:32 | JdGord | States sent just true/false... they have values |
| 08:27:40 | JdGord | You can't set the value though |
| 08:29:35 | S_a_i_n_t | the condition you asked about earlier is pretty simple though (as I understand it): %?mp<|%?mp<|play is true, and we are playing...perform an action here||play is true, and we are fastforwarding...perform an action here|play is true, and we are rewinding...perform an action here>|||> |
| 08:30:27 | S_a_i_n_t | this checks for the play state, and then reports (whatever you want it to) for Play (which is obviously true...as we're currently playing) fast forward, and rewind. |
| 08:32:59 | S_a_i_n_t | if you haven't found it already, the manual is the place you want to be looking for skin tags: |
| 08:33:02 | S_a_i_n_t | http://download.rockbox.org/daily/manual/rockbox-ipodnano2g/rockbox-buildap2.html#x16-344000B |
| 08:33:16 | S_a_i_n_t | (I used Nano2G herer as it was just what I was looking at at the time) |
| 08:33:20 | S_a_i_n_t | *here |
| 08:35:07 | KiwiCam | Thanks. BTW. Can you point me to the Theme Builder prog? I found it once and never ever after. |
| 08:39:03 | KiwiCam | Skin Tags...I see conditional, subline, bar...but not skin tags in that link? Where am I going wrong? |
| 08:40:14 | S_a_i_n_t | they are *all* skin tags. |
| 08:41:07 | S_a_i_n_t | every single thing on that page is a skin tag. |
| 08:43:16 | KiwiCam | I feel so Zen. |
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| 08:46:08 | Tchno | Hello, after installing Rockbox on my Sansa (unsure what version) and restarting, nothing has changed. |
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| 08:46:39 | KiwiCam | Have you turned it off and back on again? |
| 08:47:14 | Tchno | Yeah |
| 08:47:30 | Tchno | I know I installed version 1, how do I know what version my fuze is? |
| 08:47:40 | Stummi | Tchno, befor installing rockbox, you should know which version you are having ;) |
| 08:47:44 | b0hoon | LambdaCalculus37: i don't know, work for me. Are you sure you have the source clean? Maybe you should delete it and co fresh... |
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| 08:48:01 | Tchno | How do I find that, Stummi? |
| 08:48:47 | KiwiCam | It'll be under system/info scroll down. (Mine's a Clip, but might be similar) |
| 08:49:10 | S_a_i_n_t | Tchno: The only way you can find that out is by checking the revision number of the original firmware |
| 08:49:16 | S_a_i_n_t | (the sansa FW) |
| 08:49:26 | S_a_i_n_t | If it starts with 0.1 you have a V1 |
| 08:49:34 | Tchno | Version: V02.02.26A? |
| 08:49:35 | S_a_i_n_t | if it starts with 0.2 you have a V2 |
| 08:49:39 | S_a_i_n_t | you have a V2 |
| 08:49:47 | Tchno | Alright, so uninstall V1 and install V2 then? |
| 08:49:55 | S_a_i_n_t | yep. |
| 08:49:59 | Tchno | Easy enough, thanks |
| 08:50:22 | S_a_i_n_t | KiwiCam: The latest themeeditor (windows binary only) is here: http://www.alice-dsl.net/dominik.riebeling/rockbox/themeeditor/rbthemeeditor-r27946.zip |
| 08:50:49 | S_a_i_n_t | That is the latest, but, it is still quite a way away from being in sync with current SVN |
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| 08:51:58 | Tchno | How do I "manually remove the bootloader"? |
| 08:52:19 | Stummi | Tchno, just download the OF |
| 08:52:57 | Tchno | Uhhm, what do I do with it? |
| 08:53:20 | KiwiCam | Thanks for the link. |
| 08:53:30 | Tchno | I got "fuzpa" (V2 one) and clpp_data from the website |
| 08:54:06 | Stummi | tchan, afair you just have to copy the fuzpa-file to the root-directory of your sansa, umount and restarting it |
| 08:55:00 | Tchno | So, get rid of fuzea (V1 i wasn't supposed to install) and replace it with the fuzpa? |
| 08:56:08 | Stummi | yes, i think |
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| 08:56:35 | Stummi | i never did something with the fuze v1 so i am not sure, but this is what i would try |
| 08:57:18 | Tchno | After that, just try re-installing? |
| 08:57:20 | KiwiCam | Why not use the Installer? |
| 08:57:28 | Tchno | It told me to do it myself |
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| 09:08:29 | Tchno | Just installed V2, and Rockbox appeared on the screen, does it take a while to load? Or is my player frozen? |
| 09:15:19 | Tchno | Anyone? I let it load on the original firmware to update the media, but when I go back to the new firmware it just stays on the screen that has the Rockbox title and the version |
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| 09:19:15 | Tchno | :\ |
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| 09:23:01 | Bagder | it should only show that a short moment |
| 09:23:19 | Bagder | hm, or is that the bootloader showing? |
| 09:24:01 | Tchno | I'm uncertain. |
| 09:24:34 | Tchno | For a moment when it turns on, it flashes a few lines of code in the top left |
| 09:24:43 | Tchno | But then it just stays on that screen. |
| 09:25:05 | JdGordon1 | if you have rockbox installed already open the rockox-info.txt file |
| 09:25:10 | JdGordon1 | that will say what version it i |
| 09:25:11 | JdGordon1 | s |
| 09:25:17 | Zagor | the non-bootloader splash always shows version, doesn't it? |
| 09:25:23 | Stummi | Tchno, which version do you use? |
| 09:25:32 | Tchno | :s uhhh |
| 09:25:48 | Tchno | r28323-101021 |
| 09:25:54 | Stummi | i mean the version of rockbox. Where did you get it? |
| 09:26:04 | Stummi | ah, ok |
| 09:26:44 | Tchno | rockbox.org, I believe |
| 09:27:25 | Stummi | Tchno, yes. I meaned if you downloaded a "stable" binary, or used the svn-build or something else. You answered already this question ;) |
| 09:27:37 | Tchno | okie dokie |
| 09:28:29 | Tchno | I'm gonna reconnect it and re-install it, as I think something might have gone wrong |
| 09:29:09 | Stummi | maybe. |
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| 09:38:54 | Tchno | After re-installing, no change, still stuck on the rockbox screen |
| 09:39:02 | Tchno | No options, clicking stuff doesn't do anything |
| 09:40:19 | Tchno | Anybody know whats up with it? |
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| 09:43:01 | Stummi | hm, no |
| 09:43:13 | Stummi | i am using an fuzev2 too, no problems here |
| 09:43:18 | Tchno | Shucks, guess its just unstable for mine :\ |
| 09:43:24 | Stummi | (but with an older build) |
| 09:43:31 | Tchno | hmm |
| 09:43:42 | Tchno | Is there a way to try the older build? |
| 09:43:45 | Stummi | Tchno, did you copied the complete .rockbox-dir to your device? |
| 09:44:02 | Tchno | Let me check |
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| 09:45:12 | Stummi | in the simulator the latest svn-build works here too |
| 09:45:37 | Tchno | I believe the whole .rockbox dir is there |
| 09:46:03 | Stummi | hm. No idea, sorry |
| 09:46:06 | Tchno | Got a folder at root that's .rockbox with a buncha stoof in it, so I'd assume |
| 09:46:37 | Stummi | Tchno, are you using windows or linux? |
| 09:46:52 | Tchno | windows |
| 09:49:08 | Stummi | did you umount (or however that is called in windows) the device before plugging it of? |
| 09:49:24 | Tchno | Ehh I guess not technically |
| 09:49:47 | Tchno | Should I redo it again then umount it? |
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| 09:50:28 | Stummi | i don't know if this is needet on windows |
| 09:50:34 | Stummi | *needed |
| 09:51:12 | Tchno | Might as well retry it, worth a shot I guess |
| 09:51:24 | Tchno | I never had issues with songs on it before, but maybe for stuff like this |
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| 09:53:18 | Tchno | Is there a way to get the older build, if that one is working? |
| 09:55:00 | Stummi | there is an parameter in svn afaik, mom |
| 09:55:17 | Stummi | http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/UsingSVN here |
| 09:56:18 | Tchno | Would it present issues if my songs are on it in MTP format, but im installing Rockbox on MSC? |
| 09:58:29 | AlexP | MTP isn't a format |
| 09:58:35 | AlexP | It's a USB mode |
| 09:58:48 | AlexP | What player? |
| 09:58:54 | Tchno | Fuze V2 |
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| 09:59:05 | AlexP | Then Rockbox won't see any songs copied over MTP |
| 09:59:14 | Tchno | I installed rockbox, but it just stays on the title screen |
| 09:59:17 | Tchno | I can't even look around |
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| 09:59:28 | AlexP | When you copy them over MTP the OF changes the names and file extensions, so Rockbox can't find them |
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| 09:59:45 | AlexP | title screen as in you can just see the logo? |
| 09:59:48 | AlexP | Or main menu? |
| 09:59:54 | Tchno | Logo and the version |
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| 10:00:20 | AlexP | what does the version say? |
| 10:00:44 | Tchno | r28323-101021 |
| 10:00:58 | AlexP | So that should be Rockbox and not the bootloader then |
| 10:01:12 | AlexP | Sorry, I'm just reading up and seeing that you've answered most of these :) |
| 10:01:27 | Tchno | Its fine :p |
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| 10:02:10 | wodz | is there a way to force gcc to inline function which is declared static inline? |
| 10:02:13 | Tchno | So move my music into the music folder on MSC, then I'll try re-installing it I guess |
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| 10:03:20 | AlexP | You could try an older daily build to see if it is a recent problem |
| 10:03:23 | AlexP | hmmm |
| 10:03:33 | AlexP | It seems only the last three days are available |
| 10:03:34 | AlexP | http://download.rockbox.org/daily/sansafuzev2/ |
| 10:03:35 | Tchno | How would I go about doing that? |
| 10:04:05 | Tchno | Well, I got mine yesterday, should I update it or try an even older one? |
| 10:04:10 | AlexP | Tchno: The music shouldn't stop Rockbox booting, it is just that the database won't be able to find it |
| 10:04:27 | Tchno | Alright |
| 10:04:42 | Stummi | Tchno, you could try the 1020 |
| 10:04:47 | AlexP | Tchno: You can try, but there have't been any other reports that I know of, so I doubt it will affect anything |
| 10:04:54 | AlexP | 1020? |
| 10:05:18 | AlexP | oh, the build from the 20th October |
| 10:05:20 | Tchno | 10/20 version |
| 10:05:21 | Tchno | yeah |
| 10:05:25 | Stummi | on the evening here (CEST) i can try it for myself, to update RB to the latest build on my fuze v2 |
| 10:05:34 | AlexP | 10/20 is highly confusing, there is no 20th month :) |
| 10:06:10 | AlexP | Tchno: You can try, you never know |
| 10:06:13 | Stummi | hehe, sorry :p |
| 10:06:18 | wodz | AlexP: I found out that gcc is not inlining simple function which is small but called often. Redefining this function as macro gives ~2 times faster PNG decoding on coldfire |
| 10:06:33 | AlexP | But I can't think of anything in the last couple of days that would have broken it |
| 10:06:37 | AlexP | wodz: awesome :) |
| 10:07:31 | AlexP | Tchno: You could try a disk check, something might be corrupted |
| 10:07:36 | wodz | but why the hell gcc is not inlining function declared static inline ... |
| 10:08:02 | AlexP | Tchno: "chkdsk /f x:" in Windows, I think (but it is a long time since I've used windows) |
| 10:08:10 | Tchno | Huh? |
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| 10:08:25 | AlexP | Tchno: To check the filesystem in case it is corrupted |
| 10:08:53 | AlexP | type that into a command prompt, replacing x: with the driver letter of your fuze |
| 10:09:08 | Stummi | ahw.. yes. If i remember right i had also some fs-problems with an older sansa-device. I think they are not using the filesystem-standards 100% correctly on the OF's for the sansas |
| 10:10:01 | Tchno | How do I open the command prompt? >.> I don't use it often |
| 10:10:21 | Stummi | start -> run -> cmd |
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| 10:11:51 | Stummi | you can reset/format the disk of the sansa fuze v2 anywhere in the OF. You could try this. (Backup your important files first ;) ) |
| 10:12:09 | Tchno | I just checked it, nothing out of the ordinary |
| 10:13:19 | wodz | AlexP: eh, false positive - profiling build suppresses inlining :/ |
| 10:13:33 | Tchno | Re-installed bootloader, gonna give it a go now. |
| 10:14:02 | AlexP | wodz: bum :/ |
| 10:14:54 | Tchno | AlexP, its still just on the logo/version screen |
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| 10:16:06 | AlexP | Tchno: Very odd, I'm not sure what to suggest - I don't have a fuze myself so it might be better to wait for someone who is more knowledgeable about it |
| 10:16:42 | Tchno | As far as I know I'm doing it right |
| 10:17:05 | Tchno | Just copied the download from 10/20 to the root, then used the utility program to install the bootloader |
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| 10:17:33 | Stummi | Tchno, how i said, you could try format the device out of the OF. There is a entry for that in the options-menu |
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| 10:17:50 | Tchno | Wait, how do I do that?\ |
| 10:18:58 | Stummi | Settings -> System Settings -> Format |
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| 10:19:40 | Stummi | maybe the fs or partition-table is broken on a way, where can the of and windows can handle this but not rockbox |
| 10:20:32 | Tchno | So go to format and say yes? |
| 10:21:57 | Stummi | Tchno, i would say. But all the data on your device will be deleted then |
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| 10:22:09 | Stummi | (your music and so on) |
| 10:22:15 | Tchno | Yeah, its backed up, no worries |
| 10:22:21 | Stummi | ok :) |
| 10:22:30 | Tchno | Then do I have to re-install it? or just try restarting? |
| 10:22:41 | Stummi | yes |
| 10:26:56 | Tchno | How long is the Rockbox logo screen even supposed to show for? |
| 10:26:56 | Tchno | No luck still. It's staying there. |
| 10:28:54 | Stummi | normally it shall be showing for 1-2 secounds |
| 10:29:15 | Stummi | Sorry, never heard about your problem and i don't have any ideas more |
| 10:29:22 | Tchno | Bummer :\ |
| 10:29:40 | Stummi | you could try getting help on the mailinglist or forum |
| 10:29:40 | Tchno | My friend who has a similar model said he used the V1 build and it worked like a charm |
| 10:29:57 | Tchno | Idk if he has a V1 or V2 sansa though |
| 10:30:01 | Stummi | fuzev1 and v2 are optical the same afaik but not technical |
| 10:30:26 | Stummi | but how i said, i have v2 and it works here |
| 10:30:56 | Tchno | Is there some way I could steal your older version? Lol |
| 10:31:48 | Stummi | currently i have r28068-100913 |
| 10:34:40 | wodz | wait for funman |
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| 10:37:47 | Tchno | Where would I get that older version? |
| 10:38:25 | Stummi | Tchno, when you are using svn direct you can use the -r parameter |
| 10:38:52 | Tchno | Uhhh, ya lost me |
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| 10:39:44 | Stummi | hm, how did you installed rockbox? |
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| 10:40:20 | Stummi | Tchno, how did you installed rockbox? |
| 10:40:25 | Tchno | Sorry, my web browser is being grumpy. |
| 10:40:49 | Stummi | no problem |
| 10:41:18 | Tchno | I got the 10/20 version before, unzipped it, had the whole .rockbox directory |
| 10:41:20 | Tchno | copied it to root |
| 10:41:54 | Stummi | ok |
| 10:42:41 | Tchno | I'm going to try the up-to-date one |
| 10:42:59 | Stummi | i can build one for you with the old version. mom |
| 10:43:58 | Tchno | okay :o how will i get that? |
| 10:45:22 | [Saint] | Out of interest, are you unzipping the .fockbox folderf from the .zip file, and *then* copying it to the device? |
| 10:45:27 | [Saint] | if so, don't. |
| 10:45:39 | [Saint] | errr...*rockbox, even. |
| 10:46:09 | Tchno | I'm extracting it, then putting it in, yeah |
| 10:46:14 | Tchno | Should I do it differently? |
| 10:46:16 | [Saint] | If you have done so, it is probably wise to delete the entire .rockbox folder from the device and extract it properly |
| 10:46:30 | [Saint] | and then *extract* to the device. |
| 10:46:33 | [Saint] | Not copy to. |
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| 10:47:02 | [Saint] | My guess is that there is still leftovers from the previous V1 installation. |
| 10:47:28 | Tchno | Even after formatting the device? o.O |
| 10:47:47 | [Saint] | Ah, no...if you've formatted it sice, it should be fine. |
| 10:47:51 | Stummi | no, there shouldn't be anymore |
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| 10:48:17 | [Saint] | Sorry, I came in late, catching up...didn;t see that you'd formatted it. |
| 10:48:19 | pixelma | Tchno: do you have rockbox files floating around in the root of the device? |
| 10:48:32 | Tchno | I do not believe so. |
| 10:49:56 | Tchno | Besides the default folders, there is a "RES_INFO", a "SYS_CONF", "VIDEO_BM", "MTABLE", "version.sdk" and the ".rockbox" folder |
| 10:52:24 | Tchno | I'm not sure what's wrong :\ |
| 10:52:43 | [Saint] | Nor are we ;) |
| 10:53:21 | Stummi | Tchno, funman is fit with that. Maybe you can try askin later when he is here. |
| 10:53:34 | [Saint] | That's not too likely to happen. |
| 10:53:37 | Stummi | Btw, iam building the old release for you atm. When its done i will upload it somewhere |
| 10:53:45 | [Saint] | funman hasn;t been here for quite some time. |
| 10:54:02 | Tchno | Cool cool, not sure how much longer I should stay up though. Need to wake up in approx 5 hours. |
| 10:55:06 | Tchno | Think something might be wrong with the bootloader? |
| 10:55:30 | [Saint] | Shouldn;t be...are you using the latest possible bootloader? |
| 10:55:43 | [Saint] | ie. have you installed a new bootloader recently using RBUtil? |
| 10:55:53 | Tchno | RBUtil? |
| 10:55:55 | Stummi | when you can see the rockbox-logo the bootloaders has already done is job |
| 10:56:04 | Tchno | ohhh. yeah. |
| 10:56:08 | KiwiCam | Hi again. So, if I have a bitmap with 10 sub images, how do I get those images to cycle through, repeatedly, whilst play status %mp is Ffwd? |
| 10:56:14 | [Saint] | Oh...right, sorry...FuzeV2 isn;t supported by RBUtil is it. |
| 10:56:16 | [Saint] | My mistake. |
| 10:56:31 | Tchno | Naw, it's just "unstable" on the RBUtil |
| 10:56:41 | Tchno | It still downloaded on it from RBUtil |
| 10:56:55 | [Saint] | ah...well, did you install a new bootloader? |
| 10:57:30 | Tchno | Yeah, I used the fuzpa file from the fuze forums |
| 10:57:38 | Tchno | I'd figure that'd work |
| 10:58:48 | Stummi | Tchno, the fuzpa-file hast to be patched for rockbox. But this should be done by the rbutil |
| 10:59:09 | [Saint] | KiwiCam: you'll want to use a combination of the %?mp and %t() tags..like so: "%?mp<|||%t(timeout)%xd(image_lable and subimage);%t(timeout)%xd(image_lable and subimage);%t(timeout)%xd(image_lable and subimage);%t(timeout)%xd(image_lable and subimage);|> |
| 10:59:12 | [Saint] | etc. |
| 10:59:36 | Tchno | I did it through rbutil, so pretty sure it should work just fine |
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| 11:00:11 | Stummi | yes |
| 11:00:28 | Stummi | when you see the rockbox-loading-screen the bootloader works |
| 11:01:10 | [Saint] | so if you want to display image X you'd do : %?mp<|||%t(1)%xd(Xa);%t(1)%xd(Xb);%t(1)%xd(Xc);%t(1)%xd(Xd);%t(1)%xd(Xe);%t(1)%xd(Xf);%t(1)%xd(Xg);%t(1)%xd(Xh);%t(1)%xd(Xi);%t(1)%xd(Xj)|> |
| 11:01:16 | [Saint] | KiwiCam: ^ |
| 11:01:59 | [Saint] | that will display image "X" subimages a through j repeatedly when FFwd is true, at 1 second intervals for each subimage |
| 11:02:22 | [Saint] | the lowest possible timeout for %t == 0.1 |
| 11:03:20 | [Saint] | There's several examples of animation in the themes of mine I suggested you look at yesterday. |
| 11:03:40 | wodz | teru: there is annoying bug in imageviewer (any format) - max downscale is 8, if image resized by 8 is bigger than LCD_WIDTH, LCD_HEIGHT than you have no ability to go to the next image. |
| 11:07:57 | KiwiCam | Saint: I'm onto it now. Thanks ever so much. |
| 11:08:13 | [Saint] | No problems. |
| 11:08:29 | [Saint] | About this time last year I was asking as many questions as you were ;) |
| 11:08:40 | Stummi | Tchno, stummi.org/rockbox.r28068.zip">http://files.stummi.org/rockbox.r28068.zip |
| 11:08:42 | [Saint] | errr, are. |
| 11:08:50 | Stummi | this is the release that is working for my player |
| 11:09:10 | Tchno | Thanks, I'll give it a shot |
| 11:11:40 | KiwiCam | Saint: One more please. If I want it to cycle through the first 10 one time and then the last 5 continuously, how do I do this please? |
| 11:12:57 | [Saint] | I'm not sure you can. |
| 11:13:41 | [Saint] | you can either cycle to the end of the images and stop, or cycle through them all continously. |
| 11:14:05 | [Saint] | s/the end/a designated position/ |
| 11:14:32 | KiwiCam | It's gotten you thinking though ;) Bummer. I have a great bitmap I'd like to use. No chance of using a conditional. I suppose? |
| 11:15:02 | [Saint] | you are using a conditonal ;) But no, there's no condition that can be met for that, sorry. |
| 11:15:15 | [Saint] | Not to my knowledge anyway. |
| 11:15:16 | KiwiCam | :( |
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| 11:15:44 | Tchno | Pretty sure it's still a sitting duck, Stummi |
| 11:16:06 | KiwiCam | Maybe with a subline? |
| 11:16:10 | Stummi | hm |
| 11:16:32 | [Saint] | KiwiCam: You're using sublines. |
| 11:16:34 | Tchno | version is r28068-101022 |
| 11:16:38 | [Saint] | that's the %t() tag |
| 11:17:04 | KiwiCam | Doh! Strike that. |
| 11:17:57 | Stummi | Tchno, yes this is correct. The first number shows the svn-revision that is builded the secound the date, when its builded |
| 11:18:29 | Tchno | Huh. Welp, unfortunately it's still stuck on the logo screen |
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| 11:19:34 | Stummi | Tchno, you can try tp ask in the forum or at the mailinglist. |
| 11:19:41 | [Saint] | It's rather a shame that funman isn;t frequenting these IRC rooms anymore...I'm sure himself (or some other Sansa savvy Dev) would like to get their paws on your player to find out if there is some type of unknown hardward combination that hasn't been seen yet. |
| 11:20:12 | Tchno | I suppose I'll post something in the forum |
| 11:20:29 | [Saint] | The ML will probably be the best bet. |
| 11:20:52 | Stummi | Tchno, when did you buyed the player? |
| 11:21:02 | Tchno | About 9-10 months ago |
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| 11:21:22 | Stummi | hm, ok |
| 11:21:37 | Tchno | Which forum should I post in? |
| 11:21:47 | [Saint] | IIUC it's already known that there are two different "V2" Fuzes, perhaps there is a third. |
| 11:22:08 | [Saint] | Who knows, it's all speculation without seeing the guts of the thing. |
| 11:22:26 | Tchno | Yeah, its being a tough bugger whatever the case |
| 11:23:33 | Stummi | Tchno, i buyed my sansa in oct 09. Maybe something with the hardware changed meanwhile |
| 11:24:19 | [Saint] | I would expect there would have been other reports by now...but it did take quite some time for the "other" V2s to show up, so...it's possible. |
| 11:24:30 | KiwiCam | Saint: Thanks. All is good. I'll just tweak the bitmaps. Running nicely now. |
| 11:24:55 | [Saint] | KiwiCam: What device are you developing for out of curiousity? |
| 11:25:54 | Stummi | Hm, thats a problem with vendors they are change their hardware without any notice :/ |
| 11:26:54 | pixelma | wodz: there should be a different button (combo) to get to the next image even if the image is bigger than displayed (zoomed or not) IMGVIEW_NEXT/PREVIOUS |
| 11:27:01 | Stummi | an openhardware-project for an mp3-player which is working closing togheter rockbox would be a nice thing |
| 11:27:23 | [Saint] | Stummi: There's is such a thing.. |
| 11:27:31 | [Saint] | Google Lype Project |
| 11:27:38 | Bagder | open hardware is unfortunately not very easy |
| 11:27:39 | [Saint] | (I think that's what it's called) |
| 11:27:43 | Bagder | Lyre |
| 11:27:51 | [Saint] | They're using the Chumby Hacker Boards |
| 11:28:10 | Bagder | http://lyre.sourceforge.net/ |
| 11:28:13 | Stummi | hm |
| 11:28:37 | Bagder | but expect to do a lot of work to reach anywhere with that |
| 11:28:37 | [Saint] | There's also the mini2440 |
| 11:28:59 | [Saint] | but that's more of a single-board micro-PC that just so happens to run RB also. |
| 11:29:08 | [Saint] | it's horribly over powred for a DAP |
| 11:29:40 | Bagder | I disagree |
| 11:29:41 | Zagor | it's not hard getting random hardware to run Rockbox. what's hard is making pocket-sized hardware that can run rockbox. |
| 11:29:44 | Tchno | Well, posted on the forum. I'm going to call it a night. |
| 11:29:48 | Tchno | Thanks for the help, Stummi |
| 11:30:09 | [Saint] | at least the mini2440 comes mostly assembled for you, and boots out of the box with a micro linux kernel. |
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| 11:30:26 | [Saint] | Chumby Hacker Boards need a lot of work to get anything running. |
| 11:34:47 | KiwiCam | Saint: Sansa Clip. From the themes I've seen, there aren't any with animations when FF or RW are pressed etc. I intend to improve on my first theme and a few more animations wouldn't go astray. |
| 11:36:27 | [Saint] | KiwiCam: Just keep in mind that you don;t want to go *too* overboard with the animations..it's pretty easy to go over the skin buffer limit without using any animations on the Clip(s) |
| 11:36:45 | [Saint] | The skin buffer is only ~12Kb or so IIRC |
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| 11:38:58 | [Saint] | Keep trying your theme on device as you progress, and check the skin buffer left by viewing: System - Rockbox Info - Skin RAM Usage: usedKb/RemainingKb |
| 11:39:18 | KiwiCam | I'll bear that in mind. So is the buffer for just the wps file? what about the theme cfg? |
| 11:40:39 | [Saint] | The buffer stores all the theme syntax from the .wps, .sbs and .fms (and possibly the theme .cfg) plus any and all images loaded, and additional fonts. |
| 11:41:33 | [Saint] | It is possible to go over the skin buffer limit on the Clip(s) with just a very highly text orientated theme...so, keep checking how much you have left ;) |
| 11:41:59 | KiwiCam | I see. Some creative bit mapping required then. Why so small a buffer? |
| 11:43:15 | KiwiCam | As in, is this buffer constant throughout all models of player? 12Kb |
| 11:43:54 | [Saint] | No, the larger the screen...the higher the buffer, also colour targets get a MUCH larger buffer. |
| 11:44:28 | [Saint] | If you don;t want to keep testing the theme on device, download a simulator build, and you can check the skin ram usage there just the same. |
| 11:45:13 | [Saint] | The Clip(s) only have a very small skin buffer because they have a monochrome screen, and the screen is (comparatively) very small. |
| 11:46:28 | [Saint] | the Nano(s) have ~185Kb but that is needed because a single fullscreen backdrop on a 176x132px screen is ~60Kb alone. So, it's all relative. |
| 11:47:01 | KiwiCam | I'm using both. Those sim's are great. My uploaded theme uses 19Kb and there's a 49Kb limit. I'm pretty sure I can fit all within there. I'm thinking I could reuse an existing bitmap in some way to save space. Maybe a reverse? |
| 11:47:42 | [Saint] | Yes, it's always better to re-use a bitmap wherever possible. |
| 11:47:45 | KiwiCam | That didn't make much sense (the reverse), but I'll play around with an idea i have. |
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| 11:48:30 | [Saint] | And wow, the Clip(s) have gotten a rather large boost in skin buffer since I last remember seeing, you should be fine with ~50Kb |
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| 11:49:43 | KiwiCam | :) Cripes. This is just a theme. I don't even those that have to code Rockbox as a whole. |
| 11:50:11 | [Saint] | Hehe...well, it certainly didn't happen overnight ;D |
| 11:51:04 | pixelma | monochrome bitmaps (which they are converted to) don't take that much skin buffer - and the backdrop goes into a seperate buffer currently (or should AFAIK) |
| 11:52:05 | [Saint] | I was pretty confident the backdrops go into the skin buffer...Jd came up with a patch to load them into the audio buffer if the skin is loaded before playback is started, but that's not in SVN afaik. |
| 11:52:11 | [Saint] | pixelma: ^ |
| 11:55:16 | KiwiCam | Backdrops. You're just talking dirty to me now. |
| 11:55:55 | pixelma | KiwiCam: don't mind, backdrops aren't available on the Clips anyway |
| 11:56:29 | KiwiCam | I feel so inadequate :( |
| 11:56:57 | [Saint] | Is anyone able to confirm FS #11695 ( http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11695?project=1&show_task=&order=dateopened&sort=desc )? |
| 11:57:30 | [Saint] | It's regarding sort order, which I'm pretty sure was resolved...I'm not seeing this on my devices, so I'm thinking there's a setting he's missing. |
| 11:57:42 | KiwiCam | Thanks Y'all. Smell you later. Have a good night/day. Greatly appreciated. |
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| 12:14:32 | pixelma | [Saint]: the backdrop thing seems to have changed in some rework at least going by the displayed skin buffer numbers. Not sure if that's intended or not |
| 12:15:10 | [Saint] | the buffers increased rather dramatically with the parser rework. |
| 12:15:29 | pixelma | yes, and? |
| 12:15:59 | [Saint] | I was just adding that in there, I guess I mirinterpreted what you werer saying. |
| 12:16:10 | [Saint] | *misinterpreted |
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| 13:11:57 | b0hoon | What is the purpose of finding the key in the mi4 image (OF) through the bootloader? |
| 13:15:05 | linuxstb | b0hoon: You're talking about the Rockbox bootloader? |
| 13:15:14 | b0hoon | linuxstb: yes |
| 13:16:27 | linuxstb | I think it's to decrypt the OF MI4 file. |
| 13:17:19 | b0hoon | linuxstb: yes, but we have the table of the keys and we already know the model |
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| 13:17:52 | * | linuxstb is trying to remember all this... |
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| 13:18:55 | linuxstb | b0hoon: Ah, so you mean why is there a table of keys, instead of deciding at compile-time with #ifdefs ? |
| 13:20:07 | b0hoon | linuxstb: for example, or we could sort the table according to the model |
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| 13:20:58 | linuxstb | I don't know. It seems to have been added with this commit, which doesn't explain it at all - http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi?view=rev&revision=12863 |
| 13:22:32 | b0hoon | linuxstb: for the long images and when the key is at the and of the table it's slooow |
| 13:22:42 | b0hoon | *end |
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| 13:23:05 | linuxstb | Yes, it does seem an odd thing to do. barrywardell isn't active any more though, so we can't ask him if there was a reason he did that. |
| 13:23:54 | linuxstb | But it would seem safe to at least #ifdef the items in that table, |
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| 13:27:26 | Bagder | could be an added precaution that the key would change? |
| 13:28:13 | Bagder | at least initially, they updated the bootloader and since that holds the key it could in theory get changed |
| 13:28:45 | b0hoon | Bagder: yes, but it still has to be added to the table |
| 13:29:06 | Bagder | right, then it doesn't add anything... |
| 13:32:47 | linuxstb | I have a feeling that code was just copied from sansapatcher, where it would be more sensible to have the list of known keys. |
| 13:33:08 | linuxstb | So for the bootloaders, it should have been changed to only check applicable keys. |
| 13:33:37 | * | linuxstb can't define "applicable" though... |
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| 13:50:23 | n1s | I think FS #11695 is a bug report about the intended behaviour and if you want the "interpret numbers" kind of sorting you have to edit your tagnavi file, or have i misunderstood? |
| 13:53:42 | b0hoon | it's not a bug IMO too. |
| 13:55:07 | n1s | i just want some confirmation before closing it, since i don't use the database and don't know for sure this is a tagnavi thing |
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| 14:04:51 | wodz | \o/ - I finally squashed bug in mpio bootloader which prevented boot to OF when doing coldboot on battery |
| 14:05:58 | tmzt_ | does the android version unzip libmisc.so everytime it starts? is there a noticible delay from that? |
| 14:07:20 | tmzt_ | okay, missed the sentinal |
| 14:08:01 | Zagor | tmzt_: only if libmisc.so is updated |
| 14:12:31 | CIA-107 | New commit by wodz (r28324): MPIO HD200 - squash long standing bug in bootloader which prevented booting OF if doing coldstart on battery only. |
| 14:12:31 | CIA-107 | New commit by wodz (r28325): MPIO HD200 - revert change in crt0.S introduced in r28270 to get rid of strange noise produced by buttons on startup |
| 14:13:48 | CIA-107 | r28324 build result: All green |
| 14:15:34 | CIA-107 | r28325 build result: All green |
| 14:15:53 | wodz | Where can I find instructions how to release bootloader? I know I have to create tag, build binary (with somehow version set) and upload it somewhere. |
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| 14:17:16 | n1s | wodz: that's basically it, ask one of The Swedes to put it on the download server |
| 14:17:48 | wodz | how to build bootloader with version set? |
| 14:18:04 | wodz | there was some switch to configure IIRC |
| 14:18:20 | n1s | IIRC make VERSION=x.y |
| 14:25:11 | n1s | looking at th scripts this seems to have changed |
| 14:25:56 | wodz | I thought bootloader release process is described somewhere on the wiki but I can't find it |
| 14:28:46 | CIA-107 | New commit by wodz (r28326): Set svn properties |
| 14:29:38 | [Saint] | I tried to verify FS #11695, and couldn't. |
| 14:29:55 | [Saint] | I haven't done anything to any of that code..and mine are sorted as should be. |
| 14:30:24 | [Saint] | 1,2,3,4,5,6..,10,11,100,..,111,112,113, etc. |
| 14:30:26 | CIA-107 | r28326 build result: All green |
| 14:31:24 | CIA-107 | New commit by wodz (r28327): Tag release v1 of the MPIO HD200 bootloader |
| 14:35:53 | linuxstb | n1s: make VERSION=x.y doesn't work any more? |
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| 14:36:38 | n1s | linuxstb: i dunno, the release scrips don't seem to use it but i'm not really at home in the buildsystem |
| 14:37:24 | * | LambdaCalculus37 has managed to successfully build the HDD6330 build, bootloader, and sim... all green. :) |
| 14:38:51 | LambdaCalculus37 | b0hoon's work on getting the UI sim to build has earned him a case of beers. :) |
| 14:39:37 | [Saint] | Hmmmmm...is there some .cfg setting or...no? I just reverted my config file to defaults and still I get sort order in the DB completely as I would expect: (natural count of sequential numbers...1,2,3...10,11,12...99,100,111,112). |
| 14:39:44 | [Saint] | Is there something I'm missing? |
| 14:40:03 | [Saint] | I haven't touched tagnavi, or any DB code..it's all voodoo to me. |
| 14:40:07 | wodz | tools/genversion.sh:20:#define RBVERSION "$VERSION" so I think building with VERSION set is ok |
| 14:40:16 | n1s | [Saint]: don't think you miss anything |
| 14:40:49 | [Saint] | n1s: Awesome, just that I tried to verify FS #11695, and I noticed you looked at it also. |
| 14:40:59 | [Saint] | I wonder why I get totally different results. |
| 14:41:12 | n1s | he probably changed something then :) |
| 14:41:42 | [Saint] | "Reason for Closing: What're you smokin' son?!?" |
| 14:41:49 | n1s | i agree though that it makes some kind of sense for crazy-sort to be deafult in the database :) |
| 14:41:50 | [Saint] | ;) |
| 14:42:22 | wodz | should rockbox-info.txt reflect version I have set when building? |
| 14:42:32 | * | [Saint] agrees that it makes "some kind of sense" but doesn't want to go into what "some kind" means ;) |
| 14:42:48 | [Saint] | I prefer a "natural" sort order personally..I' not a robot ;P |
| 14:42:55 | [Saint] | *I'm |
| 14:45:33 | b0hoon | LambdaCalculus37: better would be the mainboard for my HDD6330, however i don't remember when i was drinking the beer last time ;) |
| 14:46:18 | LambdaCalculus37 | b0hoon: Have you successfully built the HDD6330 build, bootloader, and sim? |
| 14:46:55 | LambdaCalculus37 | I tried all three on the bus ride into the work... all three are green on my end. |
| 14:47:43 | b0hoon | LambdaCalculus37: yes. |
| 14:48:00 | LambdaCalculus37 | b0hoon: Excellent. :) |
| 14:48:30 | LambdaCalculus37 | Shall we have the HDD6330 added to the build system, then? |
| 14:49:14 | b0hoon | it's without the plugins but it can be i think |
| 14:49:29 | LambdaCalculus37 | b0hoon: The SA9200 doesn't have plugins enabled, either, and it's on the build system. |
| 14:50:09 | LambdaCalculus37 | b0hoon: What's needed for the SA9200 is just some artwork for rockblox and a couple of other plugins that don't have artwork made for the 128x160 resolution. |
| 14:50:12 | b0hoon | i can't do it till the next week |
| 14:50:18 | CIA-107 | New commit by teru (r28328): simplify rockbox_browse a bit and reuse buffer. ... |
| 14:50:50 | LambdaCalculus37 | b0hoon: lowlight's mailing me the HDD6330 I lent him back to me, so I'll be working on plugin keymaps once it gets here. |
| 14:52:12 | CIA-107 | r28328 build result: All green |
| 14:52:34 | b0hoon | LambdaCalculus37: that's great :) |
| 14:55:24 | LambdaCalculus37 | b0hoon: Oh, before I forget... I can't do it right now, but can you also build the HDD6330 and try Checkwps? |
| 14:56:51 | b0hoon | LambdaCalculus37: right now i'm at work and then i'm leaving, sorry :( |
| 14:57:04 | LambdaCalculus37 | b0hoon: Ahh, okay. I'll try during my lunch time. |
| 14:57:10 | amiconn | wodz: If you have a function that must always be inlined, you can use the __attribute__((always_inline)). This is a gcc extension; it will make gcc inline the function regardless of optimisation level (even for -O0) |
| 14:57:46 | wodz | amiconn: even with -fnoinline added to compile flags? |
| 14:58:08 | amiconn | I would think so |
| 14:58:43 | amiconn | Don't use it unless actually necessary, i.e. if the function won't work when not inlined (should apply to very low level stuff only) |
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| 15:00:14 | wodz | If I do make VERSION=x.y should this be reflected in rockbox-info.txt and in version.h? |
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| 15:18:14 | LambdaCalculus37 | Question... I'm going to be committing FS #10937 before the end of today; the pastebin is here: http://pastebin.com/2rxW4AjY and as the wps syntax shows, the SA9200 cabbiev2 port uses most of the same graphics as other cabbie ports, save for the 128x160 backdrop. So all I have to do to commit the WPS is just have the appropriate backdrop graphics and this WPS, correct? |
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| 15:24:36 | AlexP | LambdaCalculus37: Also trunk/wps/WPSLIST |
| 15:24:52 | AlexP | Does wpsbuild.pl need anything as well? |
| 15:26:13 | AlexP | LambdaCalculus37: You should of course add your files/make your changes locally, then do a build and see if the correct WPS is included |
| 15:26:57 | LambdaCalculus37 | AlexP: Righto. |
| 15:27:11 | LambdaCalculus37 | AlexP: Regarding wpsbuild.pl, no, I don't believe so. |
| 15:27:28 | AlexP | I don't either, but if you test it you'll find out :) |
| 15:27:46 | LambdaCalculus37 | AlexP: Okay, I'll make sure. |
| 15:28:01 | AlexP | coolio |
| 15:28:08 | wodz | AlexP: do You know something about building with version set (for bootloader release)? |
| 15:28:15 | LambdaCalculus37 | I did notice that the guy who updated FS #10937 forgot to add in the menu backdrop and the progressbar graphic, so I'll have to make sure those get loaded. |
| 15:28:27 | AlexP | wodz: I thought it was just make VERSION=whatever ? |
| 15:28:51 | wodz | should it be reflected in version.h and rockbox-info.txt? |
| 15:29:04 | AlexP | I'd guess so, one mo |
| 15:29:16 | LambdaCalculus37 | AlexP: So it's just a matter of making sure that trunk/wps/WPSLIST has the appropriate information needed for the LCD resolution for the device, and points to necessary graphics, correct? |
| 15:29:17 | wodz | I think this is broken |
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| 15:29:43 | AlexP | LambdaCalculus37: I think so, but I'm not certain |
| 15:30:40 | AlexP | wodz: Yeah, rockbox-info.txt for 3.6 says "Version: 3.6" |
| 15:30:42 | LambdaCalculus37 | AlexP: Okie dokie. And I just noticed that the progressbar graphic is loaded appropriately in the WPS. :) |
| 15:31:17 | wodz | heh - rather critical bug when release is just around the corner :-) |
| 15:31:31 | AlexP | indeed |
| 15:32:14 | wodz | I think it comest from genversion.sh - It always overwrite VERSION shell variable |
| 15:32:17 | linuxstb | wodz: Are you talking about bootloaders or the main build. I wouldn't assume things are the same. Plus bootloaders aren't part of releases. |
| 15:33:03 | wodz | passing VERSION=x.y should be honored and I think it isn't |
| 15:33:30 | AlexP | wodz: for builds, it seems to be tools/version.sh |
| 15:33:40 | AlexP | according to http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/ReleaseChecklist |
| 15:33:55 | linuxstb | wodz: It certainly used to be honoured. I don't know what changed... |
| 15:34:22 | wodz | I'll look at it later, have to go |
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| 17:09:03 | LambdaCalculus37 | toffe82: Did you see that b0hoon got the HDD6330 sim to build? |
| 17:09:24 | toffe82 | LambdaCalculus37: no |
| 17:10:13 | LambdaCalculus37 | toffe82: http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi?view=rev;revision=28323 |
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| 19:45:07 | guest001 | Can anybody try this: |
| 19:45:19 | guest001 | Init the tagdb (if it's not already initialised) |
| 19:45:30 | guest001 | copy tagnavi.config to tagnavi_custom.config |
| 19:45:37 | guest001 | and reboot your player |
| 19:46:57 | Torne | That isn't going to work, that's not how tagnavi_custom works |
| 19:47:03 | Torne | the custom one is included into the regular one |
| 19:47:11 | Torne | so by copying it like that, that's made it recursive :) |
| 19:47:29 | Torne | tagnavi.config includes tagnavi_custom.config which includes tagnavi_custom.config which includes.. etc |
| 19:47:57 | Torne | i assume it probably crashes, or similar ;) |
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| 19:48:07 | guest001 | how can I prevent it to be overwritten? |
| 19:48:14 | Torne | what do you mean? |
| 19:48:31 | JesusFreak316 | Would this or the #rockbox-community be the right channel to ask about compiling for android? |
| 19:48:47 | guest001 | when I change tagnavi.cfg and updates it get overwritten |
| 19:48:57 | Torne | you aren't expected to change tagnavi.config at all |
| 19:49:07 | Torne | just put the things you want to have that are different in _custom |
| 19:49:12 | Torne | don't duplicate all the existing entries |
| 19:49:26 | AlexP | JesusFreak316: If it is compiling Rockbox, then here :) |
| 19:49:27 | Torne | e.g. if you want to add one menu, then you only put that one extra menu in the _custom one |
| 19:49:44 | JesusFreak316 | AlexP Thanks. |
| 19:49:50 | Torne | it's specifically designed so you don't have to edit the existing one at all |
| 19:49:52 | guest001 | Is the wiki page outdated? |
| 19:49:59 | Torne | no, the wiki page explains this |
| 19:50:03 | Torne | fairly well, i thought |
| 19:51:03 | Torne | read the first two paragraphs |
| 19:51:08 | JesusFreak316 | I am trying to compile for vga, so I set the screen width to 480 and the height to 640 yet the text is still tiny and in the top left corner like it's qvga. Is that just because of the small font size or might I have done something wrong? |
| 19:51:44 | AlexP | I don't know android at all, but you could always change the font and see |
| 19:51:47 | Torne | thats just the font size |
| 19:51:56 | Torne | changing the screen size doesn't really change any of the UI at all |
| 19:52:02 | Torne | otehr than allowing things to extend further right/down |
| 19:52:08 | guest001 | ok, I didn't see %include "/.rockbox/tagnavi_custom.config" |
| 19:52:17 | guest001 | thanks |
| 19:52:28 | JesusFreak316 | Ah, ok. Good to know. Where is the .rockbox folder in the android port? |
| 19:52:44 | JesusFreak316 | I don't know how to install fonts without that. |
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| 20:44:35 | wodz | I think that make VERSION=x.y was broken by r26320 |
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| 20:46:21 | JesusFreak316 | Yeah, looks like my apk compiled correctly. Thanks guys. Does anyone know where the .rockbox folder is on Android or at least how I could install fonts? |
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| 20:55:39 | pixelma | wodz: with the latest MAS-cleanup patch you posted, I still can't compile an OndioFM sim. I just switched off the computer I used for a test build but IIRC it was complaining about a missing reference to mascodec.h in hmm... action.o (not so sure about that one) |
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| 20:57:15 | wodz | pixelma: that's very strange because I tested this patch on freash svn checkout |
| 20:57:46 | pixelma | I even did a make clean and reconfigure |
| 20:58:05 | wodz | thanks for reporting |
| 20:59:27 | pixelma | I might add that I don't build a standard sim - I chose "Backlight mod" from the advanced build options and I built on cygwin |
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| 21:00:22 | wodz | cygwin is irrelevant I think |
| 21:01:39 | pixelma | so a backlight mod sim |
| 21:02:03 | pixelma | I can't imagine that it plays a roll either |
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| 21:11:59 | wodz | I have simple fix for broken make VERSION=x.y - posted it to FS #11697 |
| 21:12:40 | wodz | I am not an expert of the buildsystem however so please review this. |
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| 21:12:59 | wodz | gevaerts:^ |
| 21:15:32 | linuxstb | wodz: Seems this change was by funman originally - http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi?view=rev&revision=26320 |
| 21:16:38 | wodz | yep |
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| 23:45:00 | XaNdErk29 | hello |
| 23:45:12 | XaNdErk29 | can someone help me |
| 23:45:41 | XaNdErk29 | hello |
| 23:45:53 | * | alexbobP gives XaNdErk29 a bottle of help |
| 23:46:26 | XaNdErk29 | am i heard |
| 23:46:35 | XaNdErk29 | hello |
| 23:46:35 | alexbobP | nobody can help you |
| 23:46:40 | alexbobP | because you have not asked a question |
| 23:46:59 | XaNdErk29 | wow this shit is slow on the web chat but i cant get irc client to connect |
| 23:47:07 | alexbobP | I'm not gonna trace your ip, find out where you live, come over, to your house, and read your mind... too much work for a stranger |
| 23:47:31 | XaNdErk29 | im laggin so friggin bad srry yall for the msgs |
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| 23:48:18 | XaNdErk29 | i am trying to install rockbox with the auto install app and when i go to install the rockbox app it gives me an err of cannot create file |
| 23:48:24 | XaNdErk29 | what am i doing wrong? |
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| 23:48:46 | XaNdErk29 | i have ipod nano 1g and it is in disk mode/recovery |
| 23:48:58 | XaNdErk29 | its empty, updated to latst appl frmwr |
| 23:49:06 | XaNdErk29 | but no matter what i do it dont work |
| 23:49:12 | XaNdErk29 | do i have to install manuly>? |
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| 23:49:34 | alexbobP | what file is it saying it can't create? |
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| 23:50:05 | webguest126 | srry got bootd |
| 23:50:13 | webguest126 | had to shut down antivir |
| 23:50:16 | webguest126 | no lag now |
| 23:50:29 | webguest126 | ill take a scrnsht of it if need be but |
| 23:50:50 | krazykit | please try to use real words when you type. those using screenreaders may have trouble understanding you |
| 23:51:11 | webguest126 | ok installer app says |
| 23:51:36 | webguest126 | downloading file rockbox-ipodnano1g-3.6.zip |
| 23:51:44 | webguest126 | cached file used |
| 23:51:48 | webguest126 | download finished |
| 23:51:52 | webguest126 | extracting file |
| 23:52:05 | webguest126 | extracting failed:unable to create a directory.. |
| 23:52:11 | webguest126 | what does this mean? |
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| 23:53:10 | XaNdEr2k9 | do i have to install apps manually |
| 23:53:18 | krazykit | it sounds like your filesystem is not writable. you could do a filesystem check on it, using chkdisk |
| 23:53:24 | XaNdEr2k9 | maybe auto-install is screwed? |
| 23:53:54 | robin0800 | have you a fat file system? |
| 23:54:05 | XaNdEr2k9 | im pretty sure i do |
| 23:54:28 | XaNdEr2k9 | i had itunes restore ipod when i got it |
| 23:55:07 | XaNdEr2k9 | i just bought it today from somebody off craigslist and sent it through itunes to format and reset dev |
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| 23:55:14 | robin0800 | XaNdEr2k9: on a windows machine? |
| 23:55:43 | XaNdEr2k9 | yes i run win vista and kubuntu dual boot |
| 23:55:49 | XaNdEr2k9 | tried in both OSes |
| 23:55:58 | XaNdEr2k9 | linux boot didnt work for shit for me |
| 23:56:10 | XaNdEr2k9 | windows i get to the extracting failed problem |
| 23:56:21 | XaNdEr2k9 | should i manually reformat in fat? |
| 23:56:24 | krazykit | can you create directories or files on the device from explorer? |
| 23:56:37 | XaNdEr2k9 | checkin now |
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| 23:57:39 | XaNdEr2k9 | seemingly no |
| 23:57:57 | XaNdEr2k9 | it gives option to create new folder but nothing happens |
| 23:58:27 | krazykit | sounds like the filesystem is broken |
| 23:58:32 | robin0800 | XaNdEr2k9: did you enable disk mode in i tunes |
| 23:58:35 | XaNdEr2k9 | it says filesystem is fat32 |
| 23:58:43 | XaNdEr2k9 | no i didnt enable in itunes |
| 23:59:01 | XaNdEr2k9 | i manually enabled through select+play |
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