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#rockbox log for 2010-10-24

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00:27:02The-CompilerHey there :) After I was using rockbox for years, then not using it for years (because my iPod broke), I now got me a iRiver H10 really cheap and I'm back again :>
00:33:11S_a_i_n_tis there a question in there? ;0
00:33:59S_a_i_n_tsorry, wasn't meant to be "shocked face", but "sarcastic grin face" ;)
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00:37:10The-CompilerS_a_i_n_t: I was about to ask one, but I could just resolve it
00:37:34The-Compilerthe iRiver was detected as UMS instead of MTP so it didn't work
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01:31:41TheSevenwe have yet another nano2g FTL bug
01:33:34TheSevenerm, is it normal for rockbox to show "." and ".." directory entries?
01:37:03S_a_i_n_tI think so, yeah.
01:37:04gevaertsTheSeven: doesn't seem to show them here
01:37:35TheSeveni had a look at the dir, they're missing the 0x10 (directory) flag for some reason
01:39:03JdGordonkugel: have you got a match for the multimedia keys?
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01:52:17JdGordonhmm, can you have just one SYS_ event and a function to call to get the button pressed?
01:52:56kugelthe patch has no SYS_EVENT
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03:24:36HillshumAny thoughts on Should it be committed?
03:27:19S_a_i_n_tMy thoughts on that would be: "The author will probably commit this if/when it becomes "fix" for <issue X>, as opposed to "workaround for <issue X>"
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03:28:03webguest63hi, can anyone help me with removing some menu items? i have source and compiler all setup
03:28:21webguest63have tried to remove various values/functions but always to no avail
03:28:26S_a_i_n_twebguest63: What would you like to remove?
03:28:39webguest63things like the debug menu
03:29:45webguest63i'm not quite getting my head around how the menus are generated
03:30:05S_a_i_n_tyou want t be looking for MAKE_MENU calls
03:30:32webguest63within the \apps\menus folder only?
03:31:02S_a_i_n_tthat's one of the dominant places for cleaning the menus up.
03:31:31webguest63ok i'll have a quick look
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03:32:40S_a_i_n_tcomment out line 443 of main_menu.c
03:32:47S_a_i_n_t(to remove debug menu)
03:32:48webguest63so i'm browsing main_menu.c and found line &debug_menu_item);
03:32:52HillshumS_a_i_n_t: The debug menu is disabled in release builds right? How is that done?
03:32:59webguest63is it anough to just comment that out?
03:34:13S_a_i_n_tHillshum is quite correct though, there's probably a define specific to the debug menu...I just don't know eher eit is.
03:34:31S_a_i_n_tcommenting it out will achieve the same result in theory.
03:34:52HillshumIt might just be included in a release define...
03:34:55webguest63thats what i thought but theory hasnt worked all night so far!
03:35:43S_a_i_n_tWhen I cleaned up my menus, I had more specif requirements that just moving out the debug I edited the MAKE_MENU calls directly. works for me.
03:36:06webguest63yep, doesnt compile: error: unterminated argument list invoking macro "MAKE_MENU"
03:36:29S_a_i_n_tcan you pastebin what you commented out please?
03:36:57webguest63MAKE_MENU(info_menu, ID2P(LANG_SYSTEM), 0, Icon_System_menu, #if CONFIG_RTC &timedate_item, #endif &show_info_item, &show_credits_item, &show_runtime_item, #if CONFIG_RTC == 0 &sleep_timer_call, #endif /* &debug_menu_item); */ /* INFO MENU */ /***********************************/
03:37:23S_a_i_n_teeek, pastebin, not paste ;)
03:37:30S_a_i_n_tthat should work fine.
03:37:32webguest63am on web client
03:37:42webguest63but i still get that error
03:37:50S_a_i_n_tthat doesn't change anything, pastebin is a webpage.
03:37:52webguest63(nothing else has been changed)
03:38:15S_a_i_n_tdid you do a make clean? you shouldn;t need to...but I can't see why you're getting that error.
03:38:55S_a_i_n_tit should look as "/*&debug_menu_item)*/;"
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03:39:42webguest63position of semi colon matters/
03:40:47S_a_i_n_tI cut that straight out of my main_menu.c, so I'm gonna go with "possibly" ;)
03:41:19webguest63haha, ok! run make clean...running make now....
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03:55:45webguest63make ran ok this time - still stuck with debug switched on!
03:55:52webguest63utterly bizarre
03:57:15S_a_i_n_terrrr...what the?
03:57:42webguest63can only think maybe its the sim?
03:57:52webguest63but the directorys cleared every time
03:58:10S_a_i_n_tI'm not really *trying* to pass the buck here, but...tha works for me... JdGord certainly knows a lot more of the menu structure than I.
03:58:21S_a_i_n_tI have to run in ~2min.
03:58:31webguest63no worries, thanks for lookin anyway!
03:59:00S_a_i_n_tJdGord: Gettin rid of debug.
03:59:04JdGordI'll. Be able to read the logs in 20mjn
03:59:15webguest63hey jdgord
04:03:15JdGordWhat do you want to remove?
04:03:52webguest63just the debug option (for now)
04:04:00webguest63and to get a handle on the system
04:05:07JdGordThe eaisest way is find the menu it appears in and just comment out the item
04:05:22webguest63like that/
04:05:29S_a_i_n_tI c/p'd code that compiles fine on my end, and it erros for him.
04:05:32S_a_i_n_tquite odd.
04:06:24JdGordThe */ is on the wrong side of the )
04:07:13S_a_i_n_twhy on earth does this compile for me then? magic?
04:07:37JdGordI bet it doesn't
04:07:46S_a_i_n_tIt certainly does.
04:07:52webguest63ok i have this now:
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04:13:45webguest63cpmiles but menu option is still there
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04:51:26JdGordon|S_a_i_n_t: /.rockbox/wps/themename.settings or /.rockbox/wps/themename/settings.txt (or some other filename under the theme folder)
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05:57:22S_a_i_n_tJdGordon: /.rockbox/wps/themename/settings.txt gets me vote
05:57:27S_a_i_n_tseems nicer to me.
05:57:38S_a_i_n_tdunno why really, just, tidier.
05:57:51S_a_i_n_tsorry for the delay, had to duck out for a bit.
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06:11:15saratogai think i worked out the logic for how the faster libmad synth filter can work on arm9e and arm11
06:11:33saratogalots of screwing around with memory accesses though, so i guess the test will be if it actually works once i write it :)
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06:18:38Guest83130Hey guys, is it better to use Win or Linux for RockBox development?
06:19:25saratogadoesn't really matter
06:19:28saratogajust don't use cygwin
06:20:15Guest83130Ok... Because I have OpenSUSE installed on VirtualBox
06:21:43saratogathen i would use that
06:22:03Guest83130Thanks :)
06:24:17saratogai think it should be possible to get the synthesis filter on arm9E down to 1.5 cycles per filter tap (currently takes 5 cycles)
06:24:57saratogasince the synth filter takes something like 40% of the entire mp3 decode time, that would be a very nice speed up
06:25:14saratogawould bring MP3 performance roughly equal to Ogg
06:26:11saratogathere would be some small loss of accuracy, but probably nothing worth caring about
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06:48:08JdGordonS_a_i_n_t: yeah, I agree, i'll use settings.txt
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08:00:18S_a_i_n_tI know you're "supposed" to edit/create a disktidy_custom.config to add new filetypes to the lisy cor matching criteria...but, does anything actually stop you from editing disktidy.config directly?
08:01:13S_a_i_n_tI mean, does it have any unexpected results, is it bad, will my hair fall out if I do, do I have to give the devs my firstborn child?
08:01:33JdGordonit will be undone next time you unzip
08:01:38JdGordonthats why we have the seperate files
08:01:58S_a_i_n_tAdditionally, what dictates the ordering of what is displayed in the "list of files to clean" screen in the plugin?
08:02:29JdGordonthat file presumably
08:02:32S_a_i_n_tI would have thought it was displayed in the order it is writting in disktidy.config but it doesn't appear to be so.
08:03:50S_a_i_n_tthe "headings/groups" follow the order of the configuration file...but individual files listed under said groups don;t seem to have a predictable ordering.
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08:06:46JdGordonuse the source luke!
08:08:08S_a_i_n_tI've tried to check the code to see if it matters, and I don't *think* it does but I'm well aware of the fact that there may well be something I am user-added match criteria *have* to be added uner "< Other >: no/yes"?
08:10:13S_a_i_n_tI've shuffled things around a bit, and I added a < Rockbox >: no/yes heading/group, and it sems to work, but the wiki seems *very* certain of the fact that new entries should be put under "Other"...I was wondering why?
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08:13:37S_a_i_n_tAdditionally, is there a way to make plugins independant of the "show icons" setting? list style plugins like disktidy and shopper depend quite heavily on the use of icons for their display of selected inputs to the user...and some themes turn off "show icons" making these plugins impossible to use.
08:14:54JdGordonof course there is a way.... how much effort is the real question
08:15:53S_a_i_n_tI'll be the first to admit it's beyond my ability...but it would be *very* usefull IMO
08:16:20S_a_i_n_tI was thinking that the plugins should just not use icons, but, that doesn't seem like the sollution to me.
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08:16:36S_a_i_n_tIt did initially, but then I thought about it properly ;)
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08:55:10teruS_a_i_n_t: disktidy should show icons independent to show_icons setting. if it is not the case, it is broken.
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09:09:10S_a_i_n_tteru: Well, is indeed broken.
09:09:30S_a_i_n_tCare to take a look at it? It's way over my head.
09:11:42teruS_a_i_n_t: i'll take a look.
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09:12:23S_a_i_n_tteru: Ideally, I would like all plugins to be independant of the "show icons" setting.
09:12:34S_a_i_n_tDo you believe you could accomplish this?
09:12:48JdGordonthats not correct
09:13:29S_a_i_n_tAs plugins like "shopper.rock" also rely heavily on the use of icons, and themes that disable icons render these plugins (shopper, and disktidy) useless.
09:14:08JdGordonthen those plugins should be fixed
09:15:37S_a_i_n_tI think it'd be better to make the show icons setting not apply to plugins
09:15:46S_a_i_n_tI don;t believe it's supposed to, really.
09:15:55S_a_i_n_tas the plugins require them.
09:16:29JdGordonthen those plugins are broken
09:16:31JdGordonnot the lists
09:16:55*JdGordon would like to see trivial c plugins banned and force people to use lua for them
09:16:59JdGordonthen have them online
09:17:41JdGordonseems sensible.. although im a bit wierd
09:28:00teruS_a_i_n_t: could you test this patch?
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09:41:24S_a_i_n_tteru: Yes, I can...but not for a few hours.
09:41:31S_a_i_n_tThanks, by the way.
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10:48:36bertrikHas anyone ever tried to use an ipod fm remote with the ipod color or the ipod 4g?
10:49:31bertrikI made a patch that implements LINE-IN bypass in audiohw_set_monitor for the codec in the ipod nano 1g and it works.
10:49:51bertrikThe ipod color and ipod 4g use the same codec, so I guess it should work for them too then.
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10:58:23TheSevenS_a_i_n_t: I just did a full testing cycle (iloader uninstallation, reset to factory state, rockbox bootloader installation (with my patch), iloader installation) and everything worked fine
10:58:30TheSevencan't reproduce your rockbox bootloader LCD problem
10:58:38TheSevendo you have any local changes?
10:59:29S_a_i_n_tPresently, yes...but at the time I was testing against clean SVN and SVN+LCD sleep.
11:00:20S_a_i_n_tclean SVN black screens, and the LCD Sleep builds allow me to view rockbox, but only after the LCD had slept, and then woken.
11:01:01TheSeveni only tested my current working copy (which is basically clean svn + screendump fix) and it worked fine (on an LDS176 ipod)
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11:02:04S_a_i_n_tHmmm...I'll have a *really* good test of it tonight. (make *certain* I have a absolutely clean SVN, no local changes, etc. etc.)
11:03:57TheSevenS_a_i_n_t: btw, what broke it was apparently switching to eabi
11:05:19S_a_i_n_taha...IIRC it was busted (perhaps by something entirely different at that stage) before the eabi switch
11:05:49bertrika problem we had on other targets with eabi, was that the eabi compiler is more aggressive optimising out simple for-loop delays
11:06:57TheSevenbertrik: here it was ld and objcopy doing crazy things concerning section alignment (ld aligning every section to 0x10 byte boundaries, objcopy not emitting the alignment bytes and thus moving everything by a few bytes)
11:07:26TheSevenS_a_i_n_t: well, you might just be seeing that original problem then
11:07:32TheSevenwhich LCD type is that? also an LDS176?
11:08:09bertrikhm nasty :)
11:09:13TheSevenbertrik: for the main binary we were apparently just lucky enough that the section boundary was 0x10 aligned anyway :)
11:09:47TheSeven(the one between .intvect and .text)
11:15:01S_a_i_n_tcan repo on type 2 and 7
11:15:35TheSevenS_a_i_n_t: btw, my nano needs exactly 4 seconds from poweron to the rockbox bootloader error screen that no rockbox.ipod is present, compared to ~1 second to the iloader boot menu (with the theme and a full screen menu bitmap on NAND)
11:17:31TheSevenexactly 2 seconds to the rockbox main menu with the fastboot theme and rockbox on NAND (ucl compressed)
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11:24:39CIA-107New commit by bertrik (r28341): Fix FS #11559 - no sound from ipod fm remote on ipod nano 1g. ...
11:26:35CIA-107r28341 build result: All green
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11:45:57S_a_i_n_tTheSeven: ~1.5/2 seconds is what I'm getting with RB bootloader for Nano2G v1.0 and an SVN Rockbox build.
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11:46:58S_a_i_n_tthat's to get to the main menu, and have playback commence (assuming I'm resuming playback, and the database is already inited)
11:47:42S_a_i_n_tI *really* want to get my hands on an 8Gb Nano2G now to see if the boot time is notably slower for me.
11:47:56S_a_i_n_tOr, if it's just your unit for whatever reason.
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11:55:02Eklektohi all
11:55:04JdGordon1does anyone know if rockbox can print to the android logcat thingy?
11:55:51*bertrik doesn't know
11:56:12bertrikbut i wonder how I can kill the panic'd rockbox app, it doesn't appear in task killer
11:56:42JdGordon1kill the service
11:56:55JdGordon1we need to put some button handling in there to manually kill it :)
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11:58:44Eklektoi have 1 question / fuze / checked v1 bootloader and v2 , and none can be installed / any ideas ?
11:59:43foeHas there been a major change with .wps files since 3.6? They appear to be broken.
11:59:53AlexPfoe: Yes, the syntax was changed
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12:00:12AlexPEklekto: You'll need to give more info - what you did, what error messages you got
12:01:38foeso is this current: ?
12:01:52AlexPThe manual has it, and I know that's current
12:02:32AlexPBut from a quick glance, that looks current too
12:02:45AlexPIf it was from the theme site, the majority of themes have been updated there
12:03:00AlexPAnd there is a tool in the source that has a pretty good go at updating an old one for you
12:03:29foenah i created it
12:04:37foeCould you please convert it for me?
12:05:52AlexPand I don't understand why you are attaching a problem with a wps (which isn't a bug) to an unreleated bug report
12:06:29EklektoAlexP : i was trying to install bootloader by rockboxutility 1.2.8 / my FW on sansa fuze is 2.03.33 so i downloaded bootloader file to fuze v2 / got error Original FW version unknown, please try other wersion / so i tried v1 bootloader and got thesame error / bootloader files was - bootloader-fuzev2.sansa and bootloader-fuze.sansa
12:06:51foeit was just an aside
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12:07:43JdGordon1kugel: hey, can rockbox use android logcat?
12:08:04JdGordon1my userfile patch isnt working and im not entirely sure why
12:08:09TheSevenS_a_i_n_t: so your'e not seeing an apple logo at all during boot?
12:08:10JdGordon1from the c code i mean
12:08:12kugeljust use DEBUGF, but you need a debug build
12:08:24AlexPEklekto: It might be that RBUtil doesn't know about the latest OF as it checks them to make sure they are valid first - can you try and older OF? (OF for the fuze v1 definitely won't work)
12:08:24TheSevenrockbox alone takes slightly above a second to boot for me
12:08:25JdGordon1ok cool
12:09:34*kugel wonders how multimedia buttons work on SDL/linux
12:09:44*JdGordon1 too
12:09:53EklektoAlexP: ok ill try to downgrade my OF and check if it work
12:10:15JdGordon1/home/jonno/rockbox-git/apps/misc.c:694: undefined reference to `rockboxlogo' <- with DEBUGF enabled... odd...
12:10:16AlexPEklekto: You don't need to do that, you just need to give RBUtil an older OF file when it asks
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12:11:56AlexPAlthough I did think rbutil knew about them all
12:12:07AlexPMaybe not for fuze v2 though
12:12:25AlexPEklekto: You can always try the manual method too (see the manual)
12:12:33bertrikkugel, on the lock screen the volume buttons still work, but I don't see any playback control buttons on it (I do see them with the built-in audio player)
12:12:50Eklektokk ill try
12:12:59kugelbertrik: oh, hm strange
12:13:12kugelI wonder if they're shown for winamp
12:13:23Eklektowell rebtil sees my fuze as unstable v2 and dont ask me about OF
12:14:40bertrikJdGordon1, about the radio RSSI, what do you think is a good API? one getter for the min/max/current RSSI? or maybe one getter for the current RSSI and another for the min/max values? or perhaps one for min, one for max, one for current?
12:15:06JdGordon1one for each is I tinhk cleaner
12:15:06foethanks alexp
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12:16:36AlexPEklekto: It should - when you try to install the bootloader, RBUtil pops up a box telling you where to download the OF, and then you have to browse to it
12:16:47AlexPEklekto: I've just tried it, so I know it does :)
12:17:26JdGordon/data/data/org.rockbox/app_rockbox/rockbox/codecs/flac.codec is correct right?
12:18:09JdGordonarg, why app_rockbox?
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12:22:26JdGordonyay, codecs working, now why dont bmps open?
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12:23:34EklektoAlexP: i was giving it wrong file when he ask for OF lol my bad ( i should read more carefully)
12:23:45AlexPah, cool :)
12:24:13Eklektosry for taking time
12:24:19AlexPno problem
12:27:43Eklektoworking great :)
12:28:12AlexPgreat ;)
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12:31:51JdGordonthe android apk dependancies are stuffed.... make apk should be rebuilding the zip right?
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12:33:34kugelJdGordon: no
12:34:30kugelmake zip means unpacking it when starting the app which is hugely annoying during developement and not needed 99% of the time
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12:35:39TheSevenS_a_i_n_t: hm, I'm observing USB storage slowness...
12:35:47TheSevenit's back to <2MB/s again
12:35:59TheSeven(on windows 7, copying music files to the ipod)
12:36:06TheSeventhis used to be >5MB some months ago...
12:36:11bertrikJdGordon, I agree about having one getter for each RSSI property is cleaner indeed
12:36:39JdGordonrssi_get_min/max could even be #define
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12:37:23JdGordonoh yeah! crashed on android
12:37:31bertrikah yes, we include a tuner specific header file
12:37:48JdGordonD/Rockbox (18226): Try: /data/data/org.rockbox/.rockbox/data/data/org.rockbox/.rockbox/data/data/org.rockbox/.rockbox/data/data/org.rockbox/.rockbox/data/data/org.rockbox/.rockbox/sdcard/rockbox/wps/cabbiev2/wpsbackdrop-480x800x16.bmp....
12:37:52JdGordonspot the recursion :)
12:38:45TheSevenS_a_i_n_t: 440MB in 5:30mins, that's 1.3MB/s, apparently due to slow scattered page commits
12:40:50*TheSeven has no idea what could have caused that
12:41:23JdGordonany major objections to changing the share directory on android to /data/data/org.rockbox/.rockbox ?
12:44:50bertrikJdGordon, I'll add #defines for min/max RSSI to the tuner driver header files, so you can get access to the defines by #including tuner.h
12:46:09bertrikI'll update the patch and send a feature announce message to the mailing list
12:47:41JdGordonhow do I fix this line in configure to not accept an empty arg? "−−rbdir=*) ARG_RBDIR=`echo "$arg" | cut -d = -f 2`;;"
12:47:46JdGordonor check after for emprt
12:50:14kugelI think there's no way around app_rockbox
12:50:42JdGordonhow do you mean? that path works fine
12:51:20JdGordonI've got transparent open() working on sdl and android apart from a minor annoyance with make reconf not working and something complainig that /.rockbox doesnt exist
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12:57:30TheSevenis it a known bug that the resistor calculator plugin only flashes the result of the led resistor calculator for a split second and then returns to the menu?
12:59:53bertrikknown to me... not sure if there a FS entry for it
13:00:22terumaybe this?
13:00:27kugelJdGordon: hm maybe I'm wrong
13:00:52kugelI think that was return by some java function (getAppPath() or something like that) so I thought it should be used
13:01:18JdGordonyeah maybe... Although this works with minial changes :)
13:01:37JdGordonI think the open wrapper can be cleaned up a bit, but otherwise I tihnk its just about ready to go
13:01:45JdGordonimo far better than the get_use_file_path()
13:01:46kugelmeh, apparently no way to do multimedia keys with sdl
13:02:18TheSevenoh, new configure options?
13:02:32JdGordonkugel: bah, really?
13:02:44TheSevenwhat exactly do "bootchart", "profiling" and "small c lib" do?
13:03:05n1sbootchart enables some timing stuff for bootup
13:03:26n1sprofiling enables profiling stuff (see docs/TECH) for details
13:03:30kugelyea, firstly it doesn't have mappings for them, but then if I wanted to use X11 to do the mapping the scancode for the buttons is zero
13:04:19JdGordonok, time to port to qt
13:04:43S_a_i_n_tTheSeven: In both instances (black screen, and white screen) I see the apple logo.
13:05:08TheSeveni meant with a known-good bootloader
13:05:22TheSevendoes this only flash for far less than a second?
13:05:36S_a_i_n_tYes, I see the apple logo.
13:05:38S_a_i_n_tAnd, yes.
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13:15:18TheSeven"Make sure that the functions of interest will be compiled with the PROFILE_OPTS added to their CFLAGS"
13:15:23TheSevenwhat's the best way to do that?
13:16:15n1shacking makefiles
13:17:51TheSevenis it possible to just do it globally or will that break by definition?
13:18:26n1sit should work i think but there's a major performance impact from the profiling code
13:19:37n1si've only used it with codecs so there it's very easy to just add PROFILE_OPTS to the CFLAGS in that codec's makefile
13:21:22TheSeveni want to use it with a storage driver
13:21:53TheSevenso it's easy to enable/disable it at the right points, but not to apply the cflags to the right files
13:23:24n1shmm, actually i donšt know if the performace impact is as big for code running when it's disabled so maybe globaly adding the option will work well
13:23:44kugelsdl seems to filter the multimedia key events out, I sometimes get the correct keycode if I press multiple multimedia keys at the same times
13:25:27TheSevenn1s: what happens if the profiling functions themselves are getting profiled? infinite recursion?
13:26:00n1sTheSeven: i hope they have the noinstrument_function attribute
13:26:44n1sor maybe gcc figures that out by itself
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13:27:48wodzprofiling explicitly disables inlining (it adds -fnoinline to flags)
13:29:27TheSevenS_a_i_n_t: could you do a test_disk performance test on your ipod?
13:30:18TheSevenbtw, what does the "u" and "a" after the block size in test_disk mean?
13:30:23JdGordondoes anyone know why the application builds call `realpath $rbdir` ?
13:30:39JdGordonit doesnt really make sense seen as the install puts it in the correct place anyway
13:31:04n1sTheSeven: unaligned and aligned
13:34:38kugelJdGordon: I think the rbdir handling in configure is slightly bugged
13:34:49TheSevenS_a_i_n_t: can you test
13:34:53JdGordonI'm sure it is :) I've cut it down a bit
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13:35:03S_a_i_n_tTheSeven: Yeah, I can do that at some point soon-ish.
13:35:11JdGordoncan anyone who can build a RaaA of either type test FS #11575 please?
13:35:17TheSeventhat's a known-working one on mine
13:35:25TheSevenif it fails on yours i would be really puzzled
13:37:44TheSevencan one tell test_disk to run unboosted?
13:37:59JdGordonumm... doest default: have to be the last case in a switch?
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13:41:58wodzTheSeven: At least on coldfires you can force boost/unboost in debug menu
13:45:09TheSevenoh damn
13:45:18TheSevencalling profstop(); from storage isn't a good idea
13:46:25JdGordonandroids button/touch handling is fubar
13:46:29JdGordontotally fubar!
13:48:44TheSevenhm, can i call profile_thread()/profstop() from a thread?
13:48:57TheSevener, i mean from a plugin in the main thread?
13:49:07TheSevenis that in the plugin api somewhere?
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13:49:54TheSevenapparently yes.
13:49:56wodzrb->profile_thread() rb->profstop() but You have to compile plugin with profiling support
13:56:40JdGordonkugel: do you think the button tick isnt happening fast enough on android so the press/release is getting missed somewhow?
13:57:14kugelno, I don't think that
13:57:34kugelwhat's wrong with the button handling?
13:57:55JdGordonapart from it not working you mean?
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13:58:10kugelit's sure working
13:58:30JdGordonthe touchscreen is, the "hardware" buttons arnt
13:59:05JdGordonthey work fine for you?
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14:01:12kugelJdGordon: ah you mean that. I didn't implement that
14:01:16kugelno it's not working
14:01:31JdGordonyou havnt looked into it at all?
14:01:33kugelyou mentioned touch handling is fubar which is not true
14:01:44JdGordonyeah, I'm not so sure about that either
14:01:55JdGordonif (last_state == STATE_DOWN)
14:01:56JdGordon btn |= touch;
14:02:01JdGordon^ looks suspicios
14:02:33kugelwhat's susupicious about that?
14:03:19JdGordonshouldnt that only happen if the last button was a touch event?
14:03:24JdGordonor there is touch data avilable
14:04:00CIA-107New commit by teru (r28343): update Japanese translation.
14:04:45kugelwell, last_state was meant for the touchscreen state. it's possible that it wasn't fixed up when the hw buttons where implemented
14:05:31CIA-107r28343 build result: All green
14:05:36kugelbut btn is initialized with last_btns so it should work
14:05:41JdGordonI think there is at least 2 problems here, the app seems to go into a state where the soft buttons dont register anymore
14:05:59JdGordonhowever they do sometimes
14:06:13kugelyea I noticed that
14:06:21JdGordondirections almost never though, but debug shows the buttons are getting to key_to_button() correctly
14:07:43CIA-107New commit by teru (r28344): update Japanese translation.
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14:13:43TheSevenenabling -finstrument-functions globally results a build that ends up in the unhandled IRQ handler during boot
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14:17:22JdGordonwell, its much better now anyway... long ball press doesnt work as I'd expect
14:17:58JdGordonsome debouncing would be good too
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14:21:24TheSevenoh yeah, the IRQ handler is fucked up
14:21:28AlexPbertrik: is r28341 a candidate for 3.7?
14:22:22bertrikIt could be, but we're already at post-freeze. OTOH it's a low-risk patch IMO.
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14:23:26JdGordonlow risk bug fixes should always go in.... assuming we want to try the rolling stable
14:24:33soapis there a power consumption cost to turning on said monitor?
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14:26:42bertriksoap, it's only switched on when needed.
14:26:50soapnvm ;)
14:28:02TheSevennow that i've fixed the IRQ handler, i get a prefetch abort instead
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14:30:59AlexPbertrik: OK, I was just going by fix - so I imagined it was a bug fix which is very allowed :)
14:31:24JdGordon1kugel: can we use up/down with kinetic scrolling? (and left/right as dpad direction)
14:31:51kugelwhy should we do that?
14:32:04JdGordon1apparently the back button stops working once you use a screen touch
14:32:19kugeland no, you couldn't select an item then
14:32:45JdGordon1because up/down (currently) only goes up/down one list item
14:32:45*JdGordon1 will commit what he's done
14:34:12kugeland I think that's the correct behavior
14:34:38kugeldid you see any app on android which does kinetic scrolling with the trackball?
14:34:54JdGordon1no, fair enough... try it out and see how it feels
14:34:59JdGordon1it does feel wierd
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14:35:52TheSevencan anybody tell me where UIE is defined?
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14:37:57TheSevennvm, found it
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14:43:36CIA-107New commit by alex (r28346): Minor addition to Italian translation
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14:55:39JdGordonhmm.. "back" goes back to the os if the last press was a touch. I wonder if we should keep this as a feature
14:57:08JdGordonwell, actually its worse than that. none of the hardware buttons seem to work if a touch was the last tihng to happen
14:57:20JdGordonbut without this we need some way to minimise rockbox
14:57:26JdGordonunless the home button is good enough
14:59:00rasherI don't see why not. Isn't that the usual way of leaving an app? It's certainly how I do it
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15:06:04kugelI use the back button when I don't plan to come back to the app, else the home butotn
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15:10:05JdGordonis what we want to pop up a OS keyboard?
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15:14:39kugelI think an activity would be better
15:18:43JdGordonok, I think once a touch happens the view isnt focused anymore..
15:19:42kugelwe have only 1 view, I would think it's always focused
15:21:15JdGordonapparently the view isnt getting the button press for the front buttons after a touch, untill after the wheel is used to refocus the view
15:21:39JdGordonrequestFocus() in the touch handler isnt working though
15:28:51JdGordon\o/ yep thats the problem
15:30:09tmzt_how do the buttons work as a bitfield?
15:30:16tmzt_on android app
15:30:33tmzt_as for onscreen keyboard, connectbot has a good example
15:31:10tmzt_also, is the zip extract code taken from anywhere or coded for rockbox?
15:34:31CIA-107New commit by jdgordon (r28348): Make sure the view always has focus and can be focused in touch mode so the front buttons work after a touch
15:35:00JdGordontmzt_: rockbox doesnt support the keyboard at all yet
15:35:15JdGordonI've got a patch for sdl but I dont know how well it would work for android
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15:37:06CIA-107New commit by alex (r28349): Hebrew translation update by Tomer Shalev.
15:37:07JdGordonbertrik: would it be possible to add helper values for RSSI maybe? where it will just return a value 1-4 (or whatver) based on if the signal is good enough
15:37:17CIA-107New commit by alex (r28350): Hebrew translation update by Tomer Shalev.
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15:46:08kugelok, there's a patch to sdl to add multimedia key support
15:46:25kugelwithout it it's not easily possible to support them
15:47:12JdGordonwe could always add a seperate daemon to pass those keys to raaa
15:47:18JdGordonneeding to patch sdl le suck
15:47:32kugelfeel like doing the work?
15:48:04JdGordonpass :)
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19:02:50Buschelsaratoga: seems like I could manage to re-arrange mpc's synthesis in a first step (asm still unchanged). ->
19:03:54Buschelsaratoga: this would allow to re-write parts of the asm; in theory this could save up to 1 MHz.
19:04:51Buschelsaratoga: the savings are reached via changed use of ldm. additionally the data reads are more local, so maybe the caching might be positively affected as well
19:11:58n1sBuschel: if the data is not in iram, such improvements could help coldfire quite a bit too
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19:13:23TheSevenS_a_i_n_t: did you find time to test my bootloader?
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19:25:56Buscheln1s: those arrays are located in iram
19:26:58n1sok, loading multiple will not be a large improvement for cf then, it makes much bigger difference from dram
19:28:12n1sshould still be somewhat faster though
19:29:55Buscheln1s: will take me a while to implement the next steps... I will ask you for help on the CF asm if I reached this point ;)
19:29:55BuschelI will need to further resort some things to allow ldm for all input data. right now it would only be possible for ~50%
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19:30:14n1syes, being able to use ldm is very nice on arm
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23:10:34saratogaanyone manage to get libmad to actually compile as a stand alone app?
23:11:09kugeli doubt anyone has even tried in a long time
23:12:39saratogaapparently haven rewritten several parts of it does not make me smart enough to decipher their stupid build directions
23:13:00saratogai did it once years ago, but i can't figure it out this time
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23:23:57Kiwi_CamFont sizes: How many pixels high are the fonts? ie Is 27-Adobe-Helvetica-Bold.fnt actually 27 Pixels high? Thanks.
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23:26:15saratogaint32_t (*D0ptr)[32]; ++D0ptr;
23:26:25saratogadoes that increment the pointer by 32 ints or just 1?
23:26:57n1si'm fairly sure it's 32
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23:27:30*TheSeven wonders what kind of weird expression that is
23:28:23saratogalibmad is fun like that
23:28:30n1sit's a "pointer to an array of 32 ints"
23:29:10saratogathis one is better: D1ptr = (void*)&D[0][-p];
23:29:31TheSevenis that defining the type of something pre-existing? or is it defining D0ptr in that line?
23:29:37saratogaits like they wanted to see how many of the parts of c no one can remember could be fit into one assignment
23:29:51TheSeventhe second one actually is more intuitive to me
23:30:14saratogathis is all in the top of the synth_full funtion in libmad's synth.c
23:30:38TheSevenwhat's the type of D?
23:30:52saratogasomething that typdedefs to int32_t
23:31:06TheSeventhat can't be true
23:31:13TheSevenit must be some kind of array/pointer
23:31:22n1si remember i looked at that stuff a while ago and ended up compiling a small test app and looking at the asm to see what those pointers really were
23:31:30n1sthen i found cdecl
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23:32:40pixelmaKiwi_Cam: it's the font's complete height including "spacing", so more like line height and yes it's accurate or at least should be
23:32:57pixelmacharacters are usually a bit smaller
23:34:31n1scdecl gives "declare D0ptr as pointer to array 32 of int" for "int (*D0ptr)[32]", it doesn't like the const for some reason
23:35:20saratogacool, just found the web interface for it
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23:43:17Kiwi_Campixelma: Thanks. They just seem a little smaller than the viewport size. The "spacing" seems to be above the fonts rather than top and bottom of the fonts.
23:47:45pixelmadepends on the fonts
23:48:05Kiwi_CamGot ya. How do I perform an AND? ie %?mp<|%Vd(a) AND Vd(b)|%Vd(c)|||
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23:50:52pixelmajust list both (so that line without the " AND ") if you always use the two together you can also give both the "a" identifier in the %Vl tag
23:51:41pixelmayou will only need the %Vd(a) once then, of course
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23:55:49Kiwi_CamGreat. So, say I have two viewports, one above the other. I have a third viewport which overlays over BOTH of those other viewports upon a certain action. Therefore the first two viewport windows can be referred to as Vl(a,...)?
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23:56:27Kiwi_CamSorry, which are triggered by Vd(a) only.
23:57:05pixelmayes (if I understand you correctly, maybe just try ;) )
23:58:53Kiwi_CamThanks. Just trying to make sure my code is n00b tight :)

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