#rockbox 2010-10-24

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00:27:02	The-Compiler	Hey there :) After I was using rockbox for years, then not using it for years (because my iPod broke), I now got me a iRiver H10 really cheap and I'm back again :>
00:33:11	S_a_i_n_t	is there a question in there? ;0
00:33:59	S_a_i_n_t	sorry, wasn't meant to be "shocked face", but "sarcastic grin face" ;)
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00:37:10	The-Compiler	S_a_i_n_t: I was about to ask one, but I could just resolve it
00:37:34	The-Compiler	the iRiver was detected as UMS instead of MTP so it didn't work
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01:31:37	TheSeven	damn
01:31:41	TheSeven	we have yet another nano2g FTL bug
01:33:34	TheSeven	erm, is it normal for rockbox to show "." and ".." directory entries?
01:37:03	S_a_i_n_t	I think so, yeah.
01:37:04	gevaerts	TheSeven: doesn't seem to show them here
01:37:35	TheSeven	i had a look at the dir, they're missing the 0x10 (directory) flag for some reason
01:39:03	JdGordon	kugel: have you got a match for the multimedia keys?
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01:49:36	kugel	JdGordon: http://pastie.org/1243951
01:52:17	JdGordon	hmm, can you have just one SYS_ event and a function to call to get the button pressed?
01:52:56	kugel	the patch has no SYS_EVENT
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03:24:36	Hillshum	Any thoughts on http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11664? Should it be committed?
03:27:19	S_a_i_n_t	My thoughts on that would be: "The author will probably commit this if/when it becomes "fix" for <issue X>, as opposed to "workaround for <issue X>"
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03:28:03	webguest63	hi, can anyone help me with removing some menu items? i have source and compiler all setup
03:28:21	webguest63	have tried to remove various values/functions but always to no avail
03:28:26	S_a_i_n_t	webguest63: What would you like to remove?
03:28:39	webguest63	things like the debug menu
03:29:45	webguest63	i'm not quite getting my head around how the menus are generated
03:30:05	S_a_i_n_t	you want t be looking for MAKE_MENU calls
03:30:32	webguest63	within the \apps\menus folder only?
03:31:02	S_a_i_n_t	that's one of the dominant places for cleaning the menus up.
03:31:31	webguest63	ok i'll have a quick look
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03:32:40	S_a_i_n_t	comment out line 443 of main_menu.c
03:32:47	S_a_i_n_t	(to remove debug menu)
03:32:48	webguest63	so i'm browsing main_menu.c and found line &debug_menu_item);
03:32:52	Hillshum	S_a_i_n_t: The debug menu is disabled in release builds right? How is that done?
03:32:59	webguest63	is it anough to just comment that out?
03:33:06	S_a_i_n_t	sure.
03:34:05	webguest63	ok...compiling....
03:34:13	S_a_i_n_t	Hillshum is quite correct though, there's probably a define specific to the debug menu...I just don't know eher eit is.
03:34:31	S_a_i_n_t	commenting it out will achieve the same result in theory.
03:34:52	Hillshum	It might just be included in a release define...
03:34:55	webguest63	thats what i thought but theory hasnt worked all night so far!
03:35:43	S_a_i_n_t	When I cleaned up my menus, I had more specif requirements that just moving out the debug menu...so I edited the MAKE_MENU calls directly. works for me.
03:36:01	S_a_i_n_t	*specific
03:36:06	webguest63	yep, doesnt compile: error: unterminated argument list invoking macro "MAKE_MENU"
03:36:29	S_a_i_n_t	can you pastebin what you commented out please?
03:36:57	webguest63	MAKE_MENU(info_menu, ID2P(LANG_SYSTEM), 0, Icon_System_menu, #if CONFIG_RTC &timedate_item, #endif &show_info_item, &show_credits_item, &show_runtime_item, #if CONFIG_RTC == 0 &sleep_timer_call, #endif /* &debug_menu_item); / / INFO MENU / /**********************************/
03:37:23	S_a_i_n_t	eeek, pastebin, not paste ;)
03:37:30	S_a_i_n_t	that should work fine.
03:37:32	webguest63	am on web client
03:37:42	webguest63	but i still get that error
03:37:50	S_a_i_n_t	that doesn't change anything, pastebin is a webpage.
03:37:52	webguest63	(nothing else has been changed)
03:38:15	S_a_i_n_t	did you do a make clean? you shouldn;t need to...but I can't see why you're getting that error.
03:38:55	S_a_i_n_t	it should look as "/&debug_menu_item)/;"
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03:39:42	webguest63	position of semi colon matters/
03:39:44	webguest63	?
03:40:47	S_a_i_n_t	I cut that straight out of my main_menu.c, so I'm gonna go with "possibly" ;)
03:41:19	webguest63	haha, ok! run make clean...running make now....
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03:55:45	webguest63	make ran ok this time - still stuck with debug switched on! http://pastebin.com/5kLsfu4v
03:55:52	webguest63	utterly bizarre
03:57:15	S_a_i_n_t	errrr...what the?
03:57:42	webguest63	can only think maybe its the sim?
03:57:52	webguest63	but the directorys cleared every time
03:58:10	S_a_i_n_t	I'm not really trying to pass the buck here, but...tha works for me... JdGord certainly knows a lot more of the menu structure than I.
03:58:21	S_a_i_n_t	I have to run in ~2min.
03:58:31	webguest63	no worries, thanks for lookin anyway!
03:58:41	JdGord	?
03:59:00	S_a_i_n_t	JdGord: Gettin rid of debug.
03:59:04	S_a_i_n_t	+menu
03:59:04	JdGord	I'll. Be able to read the logs in 20mjn
03:59:13	S_a_i_n_t	ah...sweet.
03:59:15	webguest63	hey jdgord
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04:03:15	JdGord	What do you want to remove?
04:03:52	webguest63	just the debug option (for now)
04:04:00	webguest63	and to get a handle on the system
04:05:07	JdGord	The eaisest way is find the menu it appears in and just comment out the item
04:05:19	webguest63	http://pastebin.com/5kLsfu4v
04:05:22	webguest63	like that/
04:05:29	S_a_i_n_t	I c/p'd code that compiles fine on my end, and it erros for him.
04:05:32	S_a_i_n_t	quite odd.
04:06:24	JdGord	The */ is on the wrong side of the )
04:07:13	S_a_i_n_t	why on earth does this compile for me then? magic?
04:07:37	JdGord	I bet it doesn't
04:07:46	S_a_i_n_t	It certainly does.
04:07:52	webguest63	ok i have this now: http://pastebin.com/WcgP2UjM
04:08:04	webguest63	compiling
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04:13:45	webguest63	cpmiles but menu option is still there
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04:51:26	JdGordon\|	S_a_i_n_t: /.rockbox/wps/themename.settings or /.rockbox/wps/themename/settings.txt (or some other filename under the theme folder)
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05:57:22	S_a_i_n_t	JdGordon: /.rockbox/wps/themename/settings.txt gets me vote
05:57:27	S_a_i_n_t	seems nicer to me.
05:57:38	S_a_i_n_t	dunno why really, just, tidier.
05:57:51	S_a_i_n_t	sorry for the delay, had to duck out for a bit.
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06:11:15	saratoga	i think i worked out the logic for how the faster libmad synth filter can work on arm9e and arm11
06:11:33	saratoga	lots of screwing around with memory accesses though, so i guess the test will be if it actually works once i write it :)
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06:17:52	mike	hi
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06:18:38	Guest83130	Hey guys, is it better to use Win or Linux for RockBox development?
06:19:25	saratoga	doesn't really matter
06:19:28	saratoga	just don't use cygwin
06:20:15	Guest83130	Ok... Because I have OpenSUSE installed on VirtualBox
06:21:43	saratoga	then i would use that
06:22:03	Guest83130	Thanks :)
06:24:17	saratoga	i think it should be possible to get the synthesis filter on arm9E down to 1.5 cycles per filter tap (currently takes 5 cycles)
06:24:57	saratoga	since the synth filter takes something like 40% of the entire mp3 decode time, that would be a very nice speed up
06:25:14	saratoga	would bring MP3 performance roughly equal to Ogg
06:26:11	saratoga	there would be some small loss of accuracy, but probably nothing worth caring about
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06:48:08	JdGordon	S_a_i_n_t: yeah, I agree, i'll use settings.txt
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08:00:18	S_a_i_n_t	I know you're "supposed" to edit/create a disktidy_custom.config to add new filetypes to the lisy cor matching criteria...but, does anything actually stop you from editing disktidy.config directly?
08:01:13	S_a_i_n_t	I mean, does it have any unexpected results, is it bad, will my hair fall out if I do, do I have to give the devs my firstborn child?
08:01:33	JdGordon	it will be undone next time you unzip rockbox.zip
08:01:38	JdGordon	thats why we have the seperate files
08:01:58	S_a_i_n_t	Additionally, what dictates the ordering of what is displayed in the "list of files to clean" screen in the plugin?
08:02:29	JdGordon	that file presumably
08:02:32	S_a_i_n_t	I would have thought it was displayed in the order it is writting in disktidy.config but it doesn't appear to be so.
08:03:50	S_a_i_n_t	the "headings/groups" follow the order of the configuration file...but individual files listed under said groups don;t seem to have a predictable ordering.
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08:06:46	JdGordon	use the source luke!
08:08:08	S_a_i_n_t	I've tried to check the code to see if it matters, and I don't think it does but I'm well aware of the fact that there may well be something I am missing...do user-added match criteria have to be added uner "< Other >: no/yes"?
08:10:13	S_a_i_n_t	I've shuffled things around a bit, and I added a < Rockbox >: no/yes heading/group, and it sems to work, but the wiki seems very certain of the fact that new entries should be put under "Other"...I was wondering why?
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08:13:37	S_a_i_n_t	Additionally, is there a way to make plugins independant of the "show icons" setting? list style plugins like disktidy and shopper depend quite heavily on the use of icons for their display of selected inputs to the user...and some themes turn off "show icons" making these plugins impossible to use.
08:14:54	JdGordon	of course there is a way.... how much effort is the real question
08:15:53	S_a_i_n_t	I'll be the first to admit it's beyond my ability...but it would be very usefull IMO
08:16:20	S_a_i_n_t	I was thinking that the plugins should just not use icons, but, that doesn't seem like the sollution to me.
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08:16:36	S_a_i_n_t	It did initially, but then I thought about it properly ;)
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08:55:10	teru	S_a_i_n_t: disktidy should show icons independent to show_icons setting. if it is not the case, it is broken.
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09:09:10	S_a_i_n_t	teru: Well, then...it is indeed broken.
09:09:30	S_a_i_n_t	Care to take a look at it? It's way over my head.
09:11:42	teru	S_a_i_n_t: i'll take a look.
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09:12:23	S_a_i_n_t	teru: Ideally, I would like all plugins to be independant of the "show icons" setting.
09:12:34	S_a_i_n_t	Do you believe you could accomplish this?
09:12:48	JdGordon	thats not correct
09:13:29	S_a_i_n_t	As plugins like "shopper.rock" also rely heavily on the use of icons, and themes that disable icons render these plugins (shopper, and disktidy) useless.
09:14:08	JdGordon	then those plugins should be fixed
09:15:37	S_a_i_n_t	I think it'd be better to make the show icons setting not apply to plugins
09:15:46	S_a_i_n_t	I don;t believe it's supposed to, really.
09:15:55	S_a_i_n_t	as the plugins require them.
09:16:29	JdGordon	then those plugins are broken
09:16:31	JdGordon	not the lists
09:16:55	*	JdGordon would like to see trivial c plugins banned and force people to use lua for them
09:16:59	JdGordon	then have them online
09:17:20	n1s	why?
09:17:41	JdGordon	seems sensible.. although im a bit wierd
09:28:00	teru	S_a_i_n_t: could you test this patch? http://pastie.org/1244448
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09:41:24	S_a_i_n_t	teru: Yes, I can...but not for a few hours.
09:41:31	S_a_i_n_t	Thanks, by the way.
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10:48:36	bertrik	Has anyone ever tried to use an ipod fm remote with the ipod color or the ipod 4g?
10:49:31	bertrik	I made a patch that implements LINE-IN bypass in audiohw_set_monitor for the codec in the ipod nano 1g and it works.
10:49:51	bertrik	The ipod color and ipod 4g use the same codec, so I guess it should work for them too then.
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10:58:23	TheSeven	S_a_i_n_t: I just did a full testing cycle (iloader uninstallation, reset to factory state, rockbox bootloader installation (with my patch), iloader installation) and everything worked fine
10:58:30	TheSeven	can't reproduce your rockbox bootloader LCD problem
10:58:38	TheSeven	do you have any local changes?
10:59:29	S_a_i_n_t	Presently, yes...but at the time I was testing against clean SVN and SVN+LCD sleep.
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11:00:20	S_a_i_n_t	clean SVN black screens, and the LCD Sleep builds allow me to view rockbox, but only after the LCD had slept, and then woken.
11:01:01	TheSeven	i only tested my current working copy (which is basically clean svn + screendump fix) and it worked fine (on an LDS176 ipod)
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11:02:04	S_a_i_n_t	Hmmm...I'll have a really good test of it tonight. (make certain I have a absolutely clean SVN, no local changes, etc. etc.)
11:03:57	TheSeven	S_a_i_n_t: btw, what broke it was apparently switching to eabi
11:05:19	S_a_i_n_t	aha...IIRC it was busted (perhaps by something entirely different at that stage) before the eabi switch
11:05:49	bertrik	a problem we had on other targets with eabi, was that the eabi compiler is more aggressive optimising out simple for-loop delays
11:06:57	TheSeven	bertrik: here it was ld and objcopy doing crazy things concerning section alignment (ld aligning every section to 0x10 byte boundaries, objcopy not emitting the alignment bytes and thus moving everything by a few bytes)
11:07:26	TheSeven	S_a_i_n_t: well, you might just be seeing that original problem then
11:07:32	TheSeven	which LCD type is that? also an LDS176?
11:08:09	bertrik	hm nasty :)
11:09:13	TheSeven	bertrik: for the main binary we were apparently just lucky enough that the section boundary was 0x10 aligned anyway :)
11:09:47	TheSeven	(the one between .intvect and .text)
11:15:01	S_a_i_n_t	can repo on type 2 and 7
11:15:35	TheSeven	S_a_i_n_t: btw, my nano needs exactly 4 seconds from poweron to the rockbox bootloader error screen that no rockbox.ipod is present, compared to ~1 second to the iloader boot menu (with the theme and a full screen menu bitmap on NAND)
11:17:31	TheSeven	exactly 2 seconds to the rockbox main menu with the fastboot theme and rockbox on NAND (ucl compressed)
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11:45:57	S_a_i_n_t	TheSeven: ~1.5/2 seconds is what I'm getting with RB bootloader for Nano2G v1.0 and an SVN Rockbox build.
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11:46:58	S_a_i_n_t	that's to get to the main menu, and have playback commence (assuming I'm resuming playback, and the database is already inited)
11:47:42	S_a_i_n_t	I really want to get my hands on an 8Gb Nano2G now to see if the boot time is notably slower for me.
11:47:56	S_a_i_n_t	Or, if it's just your unit for whatever reason.
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11:55:02	Eklekto	hi all
11:55:04	JdGordon1	does anyone know if rockbox can print to the android logcat thingy?
11:55:51	*	bertrik doesn't know
11:56:12	bertrik	but i wonder how I can kill the panic'd rockbox app, it doesn't appear in task killer
11:56:42	JdGordon1	kill the service
11:56:55	JdGordon1	we need to put some button handling in there to manually kill it :)
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11:58:44	Eklekto	i have 1 question / fuze / checked v1 bootloader and v2 , and none can be installed / any ideas ?
11:59:43	foe	Has there been a major change with .wps files since 3.6? They appear to be broken.
11:59:53	AlexP	foe: Yes, the syntax was changed
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12:00:12	AlexP	Eklekto: You'll need to give more info - what you did, what error messages you got
12:00:34	Eklekto	kk
12:01:38	foe	so is this current: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/CustomWPS ?
12:01:52	AlexP	The manual has it, and I know that's current
12:02:32	AlexP	But from a quick glance, that looks current too
12:02:45	AlexP	If it was from the theme site, the majority of themes have been updated there
12:03:00	AlexP	And there is a tool in the source that has a pretty good go at updating an old one for you
12:03:29	foe	nah i created it
12:04:37	foe	Could you please convert it for me? http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11657?getfile=22716
12:04:47	AlexP	nope
12:05:52	AlexP	and I don't understand why you are attaching a problem with a wps (which isn't a bug) to an unreleated bug report
12:06:29	Eklekto	AlexP : i was trying to install bootloader by rockboxutility 1.2.8 / my FW on sansa fuze is 2.03.33 so i downloaded bootloader file to fuze v2 / got error Original FW version unknown, please try other wersion / so i tried v1 bootloader and got thesame error / bootloader files was - bootloader-fuzev2.sansa and bootloader-fuze.sansa
12:06:51	foe	it was just an aside
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12:07:43	JdGordon1	kugel: hey, can rockbox use android logcat?
12:07:54	kugel	yes
12:08:04	JdGordon1	my userfile patch isnt working and im not entirely sure why
12:08:09	TheSeven	S_a_i_n_t: so your'e not seeing an apple logo at all during boot?
12:08:10	JdGordon1	from the c code i mean
12:08:12	kugel	just use DEBUGF, but you need a debug build
12:08:24	AlexP	Eklekto: It might be that RBUtil doesn't know about the latest OF as it checks them to make sure they are valid first - can you try and older OF? (OF for the fuze v1 definitely won't work)
12:08:24	TheSeven	rockbox alone takes slightly above a second to boot for me
12:08:25	JdGordon1	ok cool
12:09:34	*	kugel wonders how multimedia buttons work on SDL/linux
12:09:44	*	JdGordon1 too
12:09:53	Eklekto	AlexP: ok ill try to downgrade my OF and check if it work
12:10:15	JdGordon1	/home/jonno/rockbox-git/apps/misc.c:694: undefined reference to `rockboxlogo' <- with DEBUGF enabled... odd...
12:10:16	AlexP	Eklekto: You don't need to do that, you just need to give RBUtil an older OF file when it asks
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12:11:56	AlexP	Although I did think rbutil knew about them all
12:12:07	AlexP	Maybe not for fuze v2 though
12:12:25	AlexP	Eklekto: You can always try the manual method too (see the manual)
12:12:33	bertrik	kugel, on the lock screen the volume buttons still work, but I don't see any playback control buttons on it (I do see them with the built-in audio player)
12:12:50	Eklekto	kk ill try
12:12:59	kugel	bertrik: oh, hm strange
12:13:12	kugel	I wonder if they're shown for winamp
12:13:23	Eklekto	well rebtil sees my fuze as unstable v2 and dont ask me about OF
12:14:40	bertrik	JdGordon1, about the radio RSSI, what do you think is a good API? one getter for the min/max/current RSSI? or maybe one getter for the current RSSI and another for the min/max values? or perhaps one for min, one for max, one for current?
12:15:06	JdGordon1	one for each is I tinhk cleaner
12:15:06	foe	thanks alexp
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12:16:36	AlexP	Eklekto: It should - when you try to install the bootloader, RBUtil pops up a box telling you where to download the OF, and then you have to browse to it
12:16:47	AlexP	Eklekto: I've just tried it, so I know it does :)
12:17:26	JdGordon	/data/data/org.rockbox/app_rockbox/rockbox/codecs/flac.codec is correct right?
12:18:09	JdGordon	arg, why app_rockbox?
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12:22:26	JdGordon	yay, codecs working, now why dont bmps open?
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12:23:34	Eklekto	AlexP: i was giving it wrong file when he ask for OF lol my bad ( i should read more carefully)
12:23:45	AlexP	ah, cool :)
12:24:13	Eklekto	sry for taking time
12:24:19	AlexP	no problem
12:27:43	Eklekto	working great :)
12:28:12	AlexP	great ;)
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12:31:51	JdGordon	the android apk dependancies are stuffed.... make apk should be rebuilding the zip right?
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12:33:34	kugel	JdGordon: no
12:34:30	kugel	make zip means unpacking it when starting the app which is hugely annoying during developement and not needed 99% of the time
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12:35:39	TheSeven	S_a_i_n_t: hm, I'm observing USB storage slowness...
12:35:47	TheSeven	it's back to <2MB/s again
12:35:59	TheSeven	(on windows 7, copying music files to the ipod)
12:36:06	TheSeven	this used to be >5MB some months ago...
12:36:11	bertrik	JdGordon, I agree about having one getter for each RSSI property is cleaner indeed
12:36:39	JdGordon	rssi_get_min/max could even be #define
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12:37:23	JdGordon	oh yeah! crashed on android
12:37:31	bertrik	ah yes, we include a tuner specific header file
12:37:48	JdGordon	D/Rockbox (18226): Try: /data/data/org.rockbox/.rockbox/data/data/org.rockbox/.rockbox/data/data/org.rockbox/.rockbox/data/data/org.rockbox/.rockbox/data/data/org.rockbox/.rockbox/sdcard/rockbox/wps/cabbiev2/wpsbackdrop-480x800x16.bmp....
12:37:52	JdGordon	spot the recursion :)
12:38:45	TheSeven	S_a_i_n_t: 440MB in 5:30mins, that's 1.3MB/s, apparently due to slow scattered page commits
12:40:50	*	TheSeven has no idea what could have caused that
12:41:23	JdGordon	any major objections to changing the share directory on android to /data/data/org.rockbox/.rockbox ?
12:44:50	bertrik	JdGordon, I'll add #defines for min/max RSSI to the tuner driver header files, so you can get access to the defines by #including tuner.h
12:46:09	bertrik	I'll update the patch and send a feature announce message to the mailing list
12:47:41	JdGordon	how do I fix this line in configure to not accept an empty arg? "−−rbdir=*) ARG_RBDIR=`echo "$arg" \| cut -d = -f 2`;;"
12:47:46	JdGordon	or check after for emprt
12:47:48	JdGordon	empty
12:50:14	kugel	I think there's no way around app_rockbox
12:50:42	JdGordon	how do you mean? that path works fine
12:51:20	JdGordon	I've got transparent open() working on sdl and android apart from a minor annoyance with make reconf not working and something complainig that /.rockbox doesnt exist
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12:57:30	TheSeven	is it a known bug that the resistor calculator plugin only flashes the result of the led resistor calculator for a split second and then returns to the menu?
12:59:53	bertrik	known to me... not sure if there a FS entry for it
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13:00:22	teru	maybe this? http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11675
13:00:27	kugel	JdGordon: hm maybe I'm wrong
13:00:52	kugel	I think that was return by some java function (getAppPath() or something like that) so I thought it should be used
13:01:18	JdGordon	yeah maybe... Although this works with minial changes :)
13:01:37	JdGordon	I think the open wrapper can be cleaned up a bit, but otherwise I tihnk its just about ready to go
13:01:45	JdGordon	imo far better than the get_use_file_path()
13:01:46	kugel	meh, apparently no way to do multimedia keys with sdl
13:02:18	TheSeven	oh, new configure options?
13:02:32	JdGordon	kugel: bah, really?
13:02:44	TheSeven	what exactly do "bootchart", "profiling" and "small c lib" do?
13:03:05	n1s	bootchart enables some timing stuff for bootup
13:03:26	n1s	profiling enables profiling stuff (see docs/TECH) for details
13:03:30	kugel	yea, firstly it doesn't have mappings for them, but then if I wanted to use X11 to do the mapping the scancode for the buttons is zero
13:04:19	JdGordon	ok, time to port to qt
13:04:43	S_a_i_n_t	TheSeven: In both instances (black screen, and white screen) I see the apple logo.
13:05:08	TheSeven	i meant with a known-good bootloader
13:05:22	TheSeven	does this only flash for far less than a second?
13:05:36	S_a_i_n_t	Yes, I see the apple logo.
13:05:38	S_a_i_n_t	And, yes.
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13:15:18	TheSeven	"Make sure that the functions of interest will be compiled with the PROFILE_OPTS added to their CFLAGS"
13:15:23	TheSeven	what's the best way to do that?
13:16:15	n1s	hacking makefiles
13:17:51	TheSeven	is it possible to just do it globally or will that break by definition?
13:18:26	n1s	it should work i think but there's a major performance impact from the profiling code
13:19:37	n1s	i've only used it with codecs so there it's very easy to just add PROFILE_OPTS to the CFLAGS in that codec's makefile
13:21:22	TheSeven	i want to use it with a storage driver
13:21:53	TheSeven	so it's easy to enable/disable it at the right points, but not to apply the cflags to the right files
13:23:24	n1s	hmm, actually i don�t know if the performace impact is as big for code running when it's disabled so maybe globaly adding the option will work well
13:23:44	kugel	sdl seems to filter the multimedia key events out, I sometimes get the correct keycode if I press multiple multimedia keys at the same times
13:25:27	TheSeven	n1s: what happens if the profiling functions themselves are getting profiled? infinite recursion?
13:26:00	n1s	TheSeven: i hope they have the noinstrument_function attribute
13:26:44	n1s	or maybe gcc figures that out by itself
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13:27:48	wodz	profiling explicitly disables inlining (it adds -fnoinline to flags)
13:29:27	TheSeven	S_a_i_n_t: could you do a test_disk performance test on your ipod?
13:30:18	TheSeven	btw, what does the "u" and "a" after the block size in test_disk mean?
13:30:23	JdGordon	does anyone know why the application builds call `realpath $rbdir` ?
13:30:39	JdGordon	it doesnt really make sense seen as the install puts it in the correct place anyway
13:31:04	n1s	TheSeven: unaligned and aligned
13:31:23	TheSeven	ah
13:34:38	kugel	JdGordon: I think the rbdir handling in configure is slightly bugged
13:34:49	TheSeven	S_a_i_n_t: can you test http://files.freemyipod.org/bootloader.ipodx?
13:34:53	JdGordon	I'm sure it is :) I've cut it down a bit
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13:35:03	S_a_i_n_t	TheSeven: Yeah, I can do that at some point soon-ish.
13:35:11	JdGordon	can anyone who can build a RaaA of either type test FS #11575 please?
13:35:17	TheSeven	that's a known-working one on mine
13:35:25	TheSeven	if it fails on yours i would be really puzzled
13:37:44	TheSeven	can one tell test_disk to run unboosted?
13:37:59	JdGordon	umm... doest default: have to be the last case in a switch?
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13:41:58	wodz	TheSeven: At least on coldfires you can force boost/unboost in debug menu
13:45:09	TheSeven	oh damn
13:45:18	TheSeven	calling profstop(); from storage isn't a good idea
13:46:25	JdGordon	androids button/touch handling is fubar
13:46:29	JdGordon	totally fubar!
13:48:44	TheSeven	hm, can i call profile_thread()/profstop() from a thread?
13:48:57	TheSeven	er, i mean from a plugin in the main thread?
13:49:07	TheSeven	is that in the plugin api somewhere?
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13:49:54	TheSeven	apparently yes.
13:49:56	wodz	rb->profile_thread() rb->profstop() but You have to compile plugin with profiling support
13:56:40	JdGordon	kugel: do you think the button tick isnt happening fast enough on android so the press/release is getting missed somewhow?
13:57:14	kugel	no, I don't think that
13:57:34	kugel	what's wrong with the button handling?
13:57:55	JdGordon	apart from it not working you mean?
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13:58:10	kugel	it's sure working
13:58:30	JdGordon	the touchscreen is, the "hardware" buttons arnt
13:59:05	JdGordon	they work fine for you?
13:59:44	CIA-107	r28342 build result: All green
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14:01:12	kugel	JdGordon: ah you mean that. I didn't implement that
14:01:16	kugel	no it's not working
14:01:31	JdGordon	you havnt looked into it at all?
14:01:33	kugel	you mentioned touch handling is fubar which is not true
14:01:40	kugel	right
14:01:44	JdGordon	yeah, I'm not so sure about that either
14:01:55	JdGordon	if (last_state == STATE_DOWN)
14:01:56	JdGordon	btn \|= touch;
14:02:01	JdGordon	^ looks suspicios
14:02:33	kugel	what's susupicious about that?
14:03:19	JdGordon	shouldnt that only happen if the last button was a touch event?
14:03:24	JdGordon	or there is touch data avilable
14:04:00	CIA-107	New commit by teru (r28343): update Japanese translation.
14:04:45	kugel	well, last_state was meant for the touchscreen state. it's possible that it wasn't fixed up when the hw buttons where implemented
14:05:31	CIA-107	r28343 build result: All green
14:05:36	kugel	but btn is initialized with last_btns so it should work
14:05:41	JdGordon	I think there is at least 2 problems here, the app seems to go into a state where the soft buttons dont register anymore
14:05:59	JdGordon	however they do sometimes
14:06:13	kugel	yea I noticed that
14:06:21	JdGordon	directions almost never though, but debug shows the buttons are getting to key_to_button() correctly
14:07:43	CIA-107	New commit by teru (r28344): update Japanese translation.
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14:13:07	TheSeven	hm
14:13:43	TheSeven	enabling -finstrument-functions globally results a build that ends up in the unhandled IRQ handler during boot
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14:16:46	JdGordon	\o/
14:17:22	JdGordon	well, its much better now anyway... long ball press doesnt work as I'd expect
14:17:58	JdGordon	some debouncing would be good too
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14:21:24	TheSeven	oh yeah, the IRQ handler is fucked up
14:21:28	AlexP	bertrik: is r28341 a candidate for 3.7?
14:22:22	bertrik	It could be, but we're already at post-freeze. OTOH it's a low-risk patch IMO.
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14:23:26	JdGordon	low risk bug fixes should always go in.... assuming we want to try the rolling stable
14:24:33	soap	is there a power consumption cost to turning on said monitor?
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14:26:42	bertrik	soap, it's only switched on when needed.
14:26:50	soap	nvm ;)
14:27:47	TheSeven	#dammit
14:28:02	TheSeven	now that i've fixed the IRQ handler, i get a prefetch abort instead
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14:30:59	AlexP	bertrik: OK, I was just going by fix - so I imagined it was a bug fix which is very allowed :)
14:31:24	JdGordon1	kugel: can we use up/down with kinetic scrolling? (and left/right as dpad direction)
14:31:51	kugel	why should we do that?
14:32:04	JdGordon1	apparently the back button stops working once you use a screen touch
14:32:19	kugel	and no, you couldn't select an item then
14:32:45	JdGordon1	because up/down (currently) only goes up/down one list item
14:32:45	*	JdGordon1 will commit what he's done
14:33:16	JdGordon1	?
14:34:12	kugel	and I think that's the correct behavior
14:34:38	kugel	did you see any app on android which does kinetic scrolling with the trackball?
14:34:54	JdGordon1	no, fair enough... try it out and see how it feels
14:34:59	JdGordon1	it does feel wierd
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14:37:57	TheSeven	nvm, found it
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14:55:39	JdGordon	hmm.. "back" goes back to the os if the last press was a touch. I wonder if we should keep this as a feature
14:57:08	JdGordon	well, actually its worse than that. none of the hardware buttons seem to work if a touch was the last tihng to happen
14:57:20	JdGordon	but without this we need some way to minimise rockbox
14:57:26	JdGordon	unless the home button is good enough
14:59:00	rasher	I don't see why not. Isn't that the usual way of leaving an app? It's certainly how I do it
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15:10:05	JdGordon	is http://developer.android.com/reference/android/view/ViewManager.html what we want to pop up a OS keyboard?
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15:14:39	kugel	I think an activity would be better
15:18:43	JdGordon	ok, I think once a touch happens the view isnt focused anymore..
15:19:42	kugel	we have only 1 view, I would think it's always focused
15:21:15	JdGordon	apparently the view isnt getting the button press for the front buttons after a touch, untill after the wheel is used to refocus the view
15:21:39	JdGordon	requestFocus() in the touch handler isnt working though
15:28:51	JdGordon	\o/ yep thats the problem
15:30:09	tmzt_	how do the buttons work as a bitfield?
15:30:16	tmzt_	on android app
15:30:33	tmzt_	as for onscreen keyboard, connectbot has a good example
15:31:10	tmzt_	also, is the zip extract code taken from anywhere or coded for rockbox?
15:34:31	CIA-107	New commit by jdgordon (r28348): Make sure the view always has focus and can be focused in touch mode so the front buttons work after a touch
15:35:00	JdGordon	tmzt_: rockbox doesnt support the keyboard at all yet
15:35:15	JdGordon	I've got a patch for sdl but I dont know how well it would work for android
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15:37:06	CIA-107	New commit by alex (r28349): Hebrew translation update by Tomer Shalev.
15:37:07	JdGordon	bertrik: would it be possible to add helper values for RSSI maybe? where it will just return a value 1-4 (or whatver) based on if the signal is good enough
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15:46:08	kugel	ok, there's a patch to sdl to add multimedia key support
15:46:25	kugel	without it it's not easily possible to support them
15:47:12	JdGordon	we could always add a seperate daemon to pass those keys to raaa
15:47:18	JdGordon	needing to patch sdl le suck
15:47:32	kugel	feel like doing the work?
15:48:04	JdGordon	pass :)
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19:02:50	Buschel	saratoga: seems like I could manage to re-arrange mpc's synthesis in a first step (asm still unchanged). -> http://pastie.org/1245237
19:03:54	Buschel	saratoga: this would allow to re-write parts of the asm; in theory this could save up to 1 MHz.
19:04:51	Buschel	saratoga: the savings are reached via changed use of ldm. additionally the data reads are more local, so maybe the caching might be positively affected as well
19:11:58	n1s	Buschel: if the data is not in iram, such improvements could help coldfire quite a bit too
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19:25:56	Buschel	n1s: those arrays are located in iram
19:26:58	n1s	ok, loading multiple will not be a large improvement for cf then, it makes much bigger difference from dram
19:28:12	n1s	should still be somewhat faster though
19:29:55	Buschel	n1s: will take me a while to implement the next steps... I will ask you for help on the CF asm if I reached this point ;)
19:29:55	n1s	ok
19:29:55	Buschel	I will need to further resort some things to allow ldm for all input data. right now it would only be possible for ~50%
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23:10:34	saratoga	anyone manage to get libmad to actually compile as a stand alone app?
23:11:09	kugel	i doubt anyone has even tried in a long time
23:12:39	saratoga	apparently haven rewritten several parts of it does not make me smart enough to decipher their stupid build directions
23:13:00	saratoga	i did it once years ago, but i can't figure it out this time
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23:23:57	Kiwi_Cam	Font sizes: How many pixels high are the fonts? ie Is 27-Adobe-Helvetica-Bold.fnt actually 27 Pixels high? Thanks.
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23:26:15	saratoga	int32_t (*D0ptr)[32]; ++D0ptr;
23:26:25	saratoga	does that increment the pointer by 32 ints or just 1?
23:26:57	n1s	i'm fairly sure it's 32
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23:27:30	*	TheSeven wonders what kind of weird expression that is
23:28:23	saratoga	libmad is fun like that
23:28:30	n1s	it's a "pointer to an array of 32 ints"
23:29:10	saratoga	this one is better: D1ptr = (void*)&D[0][-p];
23:29:31	TheSeven	is that defining the type of something pre-existing? or is it defining D0ptr in that line?
23:29:37	saratoga	its like they wanted to see how many of the parts of c no one can remember could be fit into one assignment
23:29:51	TheSeven	the second one actually is more intuitive to me
23:30:14	saratoga	this is all in the top of the synth_full funtion in libmad's synth.c
23:30:38	TheSeven	what's the type of D?
23:30:52	saratoga	something that typdedefs to int32_t
23:31:06	TheSeven	that can't be true
23:31:13	TheSeven	it must be some kind of array/pointer
23:31:22	n1s	i remember i looked at that stuff a while ago and ended up compiling a small test app and looking at the asm to see what those pointers really were
23:31:30	n1s	then i found cdecl
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23:32:40	pixelma	Kiwi_Cam: it's the font's complete height including "spacing", so more like line height and yes it's accurate or at least should be
23:32:57	pixelma	characters are usually a bit smaller
23:34:31	n1s	cdecl gives "declare D0ptr as pointer to array 32 of int" for "int (*D0ptr)[32]", it doesn't like the const for some reason
23:35:20	saratoga	cool, just found the web interface for it
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23:43:17	Kiwi_Cam	pixelma: Thanks. They just seem a little smaller than the viewport size. The "spacing" seems to be above the fonts rather than top and bottom of the fonts.
23:47:45	pixelma	depends on the fonts
23:48:05	Kiwi_Cam	Got ya. How do I perform an AND? ie %?mp<\|%Vd(a) AND Vd(b)\|%Vd(c)\|\|\|
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23:50:52	pixelma	just list both (so that line without the " AND ") if you always use the two together you can also give both the "a" identifier in the %Vl tag
23:51:41	pixelma	you will only need the %Vd(a) once then, of course
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23:55:49	Kiwi_Cam	Great. So, say I have two viewports, one above the other. I have a third viewport which overlays over BOTH of those other viewports upon a certain action. Therefore the first two viewport windows can be referred to as Vl(a,...)?
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23:56:27	Kiwi_Cam	Sorry, which are triggered by Vd(a) only.
23:57:05	pixelma	yes (if I understand you correctly, maybe just try ;) )
23:58:53	Kiwi_Cam	Thanks. Just trying to make sure my code is n00b tight :)

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