| 00:00:19 | mc2739 | iirc, I just changed the links to previous/historical builds |
| 00:01:07 | mc2739 | oops, there are links that need changing there |
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| 00:02:57 | CIA-8 | New commit by mc2739 (r28404): Update byhand.cgi for 3.7 release |
| 00:03:20 | mc2739 | Bagder: one more update please |
| 00:03:35 | Bagder | there |
| 00:03:50 | AlexP | Right, just some emails to go I think |
| 00:03:56 | AlexP | Coming up... :) |
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| 00:07:38 | AlexP | Will http://download.rockbox.org/daily/build-info also take a while to pick up the changes/for them to propagate? |
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| 00:09:21 | mc2739 | that will probably update when the dailies run |
| 00:09:28 | Bagder | exactly |
| 00:09:37 | AlexP | ah, got it |
| 00:10:07 | AlexP | So rbutil won't get the new release till then, but a few hours won't matter :) |
| 00:10:19 | AlexP | Unless they run at midnight :) |
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| 00:12:30 | Bagder | 03:00 CET I believe |
| 00:12:42 | AlexP | OK, ace |
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| 00:13:12 | Bagder | I wonder what happens if it had ben 02:00 this particular night... |
| 00:13:35 | Bagder | as I think 03:00 only happens once |
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| 00:13:59 | Bagder | "daylight savings hour" |
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| 00:15:02 | AlexP | Bagder: yeah, good point :) |
| 00:18:02 | AlexP | Given the way releases generally tend to sneak up on us, and then there are "discussions" about dates etc., I plan to set up a release calendar for the next time round |
| 00:18:18 | Bagder | sounds excellent! |
| 00:18:31 | AlexP | It won't of course be set in stone, but I think should give us a better idea of what should happen when |
| 00:18:51 | AlexP | So I guess google calendar would probably work well |
| 00:19:15 | AlexP | In this vein, are we going to try and get back to a three month cycle? |
| 00:19:45 | AlexP | I'll probably set it up for that, then post to -dev and if it gets decided to change it, we can change the calendar |
| 00:21:04 | * | kugel votes for 4 month cycle with (max) 3 point releases |
| 00:21:12 | kugel | point release as in 3.7.1 |
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| 00:21:45 | AlexP | kugel: yes, if we are doing point releases (and I strongly feel we should) then maybe 4 month would make more sense |
| 00:22:29 | kugel | I'd also vote for 10 days of freeze and 4 days of branching instead of the current 7:7 split |
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| 00:23:48 | kugel | IMO the branch period is mostly a waste of time. if we discourage big commits to make backporting easier we can just as well extend the freeze period |
| 00:26:01 | AlexP | yeah, not much happens in the branch |
| 00:28:02 | n1s | i think the most important part is getting some person that is more or less responsible for the relese (call it a release manager if you will) that keeps track of what needs to be done and has the finalt go/nogo say |
| 00:28:14 | * | gevaerts cheers for 3.7 |
| 00:28:52 | AlexP | n1s: I'm happy to do the admin bit |
| 00:28:58 | AlexP | well, maybe not happy :) |
| 00:29:01 | AlexP | willing :) |
| 00:29:12 | n1s | AlexP has had that kind of role this time i thin and gevaerts has had it before but i think we should agree on someone before each relese |
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| 00:29:30 | AlexP | yeah |
| 00:29:38 | Bagder | yes, that will help a lot |
| 00:30:28 | n1s | maybe something to do at the same time as the next freeze |
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| 00:31:44 | AlexP | I think it'd help to be sorted before that |
| 00:31:53 | * | gevaerts nods |
| 00:31:58 | AlexP | So that the person doing it can do things like start the freeze |
| 00:32:21 | n1s | sounds good |
| 00:32:23 | gevaerts | I'm happy to do these things, but this time it wasn't very convenient for me... |
| 00:32:32 | * | gevaerts blames evilnick |
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| 00:36:52 | AlexP | I'm just thinking of something like this for the release (look in February) |
| 00:36:54 | AlexP | http://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=budlu5aq22827q4o5vl9oed450%40group.calendar.google.com&ctz=Europe/Paris |
| 00:37:29 | AlexP | Obviously it can be fleshed out with more/less/other tasks, but just something public well in advance so everyone knows where we are |
| 00:38:12 | gevaerts | seems reasonable |
| 00:38:21 | n1s | that calendar is blank for me |
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| 00:38:31 | AlexP | n1s: In february? |
| 00:38:48 | n1s | ah, next feb |
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| 00:39:34 | AlexP | most of the specific stuff will be for the release manager more than anything |
| 00:39:41 | n1s | right, so when should we choose the RM in this plan? |
| 00:39:50 | AlexP | Soon I'd say |
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| 00:40:18 | AlexP | Maybe an e-mail to -dev (or -committers?) would be in order |
| 00:40:55 | AlexP | No point waiting I don't think |
| 00:41:05 | n1s | it's more or less just formalizing something we have done informally but yes i think that is in order |
| 00:41:39 | n1s | hopefully we will have lees chaotic releases then :) |
| 00:41:52 | n1s | s/ee/es/ |
| 00:41:53 | kugel | the RM should also annoy us soon enough to look out for commits which should go into 3.7 branch for the point releases |
| 00:41:53 | AlexP | yes :) |
| 00:42:11 | AlexP | yes, that too |
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| 02:42:11 | edboyer93 | why does the rockbox utility still say that the fuze v2 is unstable? |
| 02:46:22 | JdGordon | because fuzev2 became stable last night and rbutil hasnt been updated? |
| 02:50:49 | edboyer93 | yeah i guess so, after checking i see that the latest version of Rockbox Utility was released on 9-23-10 |
| 02:54:17 | mc2739 | try again in a couple of hours |
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| 02:58:41 | edboyer93 | alright thanks, i just did a manual install instead |
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| 02:39:45 | Biont | Hi all. Before I left off, I was told I need this to be able to compile rb for android using cygwin: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11234?getfile=22708 |
| 02:40:16 | S_a_i_n_t | you were told you *might* need that....not that you *were* ;) |
| 02:40:35 | S_a_i_n_t | *would, rather |
| 02:40:53 | Biont | Oh there you are^^ well I sure am a noob but it does look like it would solve the problem |
| 02:42:00 | Biont | at least it looks like it would prevent configure from looking for a linux sdk when used by cygwin |
| 02:42:38 | S_a_i_n_t | Only one way to find out ;) |
| 02:42:42 | Biont | but then again, I have no clue XD question is: what do I need to do with it? |
| 02:43:48 | S_a_i_n_t | Make sure the file is in your source folder (usually "rockbox), and use the command "patch" |
| 02:44:13 | S_a_i_n_t | "patch -p0 < filename_of_patch_file.patch" should work. |
| 02:44:45 | S_a_i_n_t | (without the quotes, substituting the correct filename) |
| 02:45:54 | S_a_i_n_t | then compile as normal. |
| 02:47:13 | Biont | "can't find file to patch at input line 3" |
| 02:47:45 | S_a_i_n_t | Ok, it was probably geberated with git instead of SVN then...try p1 instead of p0 |
| 02:47:55 | S_a_i_n_t | "patch -p1 < filename_of_patch_file.patch" should work. |
| 02:48:39 | Biont | guess that worked |
| 02:48:39 | S_a_i_n_t | *generated, rather |
| 02:48:45 | Biont | at least it didn't complain this time |
| 02:48:56 | S_a_i_n_t | Sweet. Now compile as normal. |
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| 02:50:28 | Biont | dammit, now it doesn't find the sdk again. could you help me out with the proper command again please? |
| 02:51:32 | S_a_i_n_t | I'm not familiar with compiling for RaaA at all...it was probably someone else that helped you earlier. |
| 02:52:00 | Biont | yes, kugel told me. I just hoped you'd know |
| 02:52:36 | S_a_i_n_t | export VARIABLE=/path/to/sdk_or_ndk |
| 02:52:45 | S_a_i_n_t | (pulled it ot of my scrollback) |
| 02:52:46 | Biont | thank you |
| 02:55:28 | Biont | woot, no errors after configure |
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| 02:57:39 | Biont | hm... |
| 02:57:52 | Biont | convbdf: No such file or directory |
| 02:58:30 | S_a_i_n_t | is the source destination in your $PATH? |
| 02:58:42 | S_a_i_n_t | as, it should have no problems finding that. |
| 02:59:01 | S_a_i_n_t | unless your source checkout is incomplete |
| 02:59:20 | S_a_i_n_t | "echo $PATH" |
| 03:00 |
| 03:00:19 | Biont | that displays lots of stuff which doesn't seem to be related to cygwin or rockbox |
| 03:00:48 | S_a_i_n_t | That's not very helpful ;) could you pastebin the output of "echo $PATH" please |
| 03:01:22 | Biont | I would if I knew how to copy text out of the cygwin terminal |
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| 03:02:50 | S_a_i_n_t | select the text with left click, copy it to the clipboard with right click |
| 03:03:41 | Biont | clicking does nothing at all :/ I'm uploading a screenshot if that's okay |
| 03:04:19 | S_a_i_n_t | You can also click the Cygqin icon, and selct edit |
| 03:04:28 | S_a_i_n_t | *CygWin |
| 03:04:38 | S_a_i_n_t | It's up the ttop left of the terminal window. |
| 03:04:42 | Biont | yep, I just figured that out |
| 03:05:03 | Biont | http://pastebin.com/c4w1yprF |
| 03:07:28 | S_a_i_n_t | and, what is the patch to the s/ndk? |
| 03:08:24 | S_a_i_n_t | *path |
| 03:08:25 | S_a_i_n_t | sorry |
| 03:08:50 | Biont | Biont@Biont-PC ~/rockbox/build $ export ANDROID_NDK_PATH=../../../android-ndk-r4b |
| 03:09:35 | Biont | I put them in /home |
| 03:10:14 | Biont | don't be mad if I screwed up there. It's been a while |
| 03:10:58 | Biont | :) |
| 03:11:57 | S_a_i_n_t | adding "cygdrive/c/Cygwin/home/<username>:" to your path should be sufficient |
| 03:12:14 | S_a_i_n_t | or, the equivalent |
| 03:12:45 | S_a_i_n_t | that's how it would look to me, on my patch, but I don't know your folder structure. |
| 03:12:49 | S_a_i_n_t | *path |
| 03:13:52 | Biont | so where would I add that? |
| 03:14:16 | S_a_i_n_t | usually, in your .bashrc |
| 03:15:18 | Biont | can I edit it with wordpad or the editor? I heard that could cause problems |
| 03:16:21 | S_a_i_n_t | add "PATH=cygdrive/c/path_to_home/<username>:" to your .bashrc file, make sure to use an editor that won't muck up the line endings. |
| 03:16:57 | S_a_i_n_t | obviously replacing "path_to_home/<username>" with the correct info. |
| 03:17:34 | S_a_i_n_t | SciTE is a good editor, and won't mess up your line endings. |
| 03:19:30 | Biont | so I just paste it to the end of the file? |
| 03:20:11 | S_a_i_n_t | yep. I'm just guessing this is the problem btw ;) |
| 03:20:33 | S_a_i_n_t | having the sdk in your path seems like a perfectly sane idea though ;p |
| 03:21:29 | S_a_i_n_t | you'l need to close/reopen cygwin, and then if you do "echo $PATH" again it should now include the path to the sdk |
| 03:23:55 | Biont | hm...this doesn't look good |
| 03:24:03 | S_a_i_n_t | ? |
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| 03:25:34 | Biont | now it looks better :D |
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| 03:28:36 | S_a_i_n_t | Biont: Success? |
| 03:29:07 | Biont | make zip is running atm |
| 03:29:15 | Biont | damn...it's still the same |
| 03:30:17 | S_a_i_n_t | what's the error you're getting? are you running "make" before "make zip"? |
| 03:31:39 | Biont | whoops, no. I was mostly relying on this guide http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/AndroidPort |
| 03:32:22 | Biont | I had the regular guide to compiling open, but didn't see that one, sorry |
| 03:33:52 | S_a_i_n_t | Ok, so...apparently I spun off on a tangent with the $PATH there, but...it shouldn;t hurt anything leaving it in your path...you can get a clean .bashrc from \etc\skel\ to replace the modified one. |
| 03:34:26 | S_a_i_n_t | It does state in the android guide to do a "make" also, I'd kinda assumed you'd seen that. |
| 03:35:49 | Biont | yeah, that was stupid |
| 03:36:16 | S_a_i_n_t | Not stupid, just unprepared...you'd no way to know. |
| 03:36:29 | S_a_i_n_t | except reading of course. |
| 03:37:25 | Biont | :D |
| 03:37:52 | Biont | "make apk (you need a debug signature setup for signing the apk)". does this say anything to you? because that command won't work for me |
| 03:38:18 | * | S_a_i_n_t shrugs. |
| 03:39:06 | Biont | http://pastebin.com/YUUyZnvU |
| 03:40:48 | S_a_i_n_t | Yeah..pass. All that tells me is that your dev environment isn't set up correctly. |
| 03:41:03 | S_a_i_n_t | But without a specific CygWin guide...I'm not really surprised. |
| 03:41:20 | S_a_i_n_t | I'd probably use a *nix VM personally. |
| 03:41:23 | Biont | hm...okay |
| 03:41:44 | Biont | yeah I tried that before |
| 03:42:07 | S_a_i_n_t | well, that should have worked fine. |
| 03:42:44 | Biont | I couldn't get it to connect to the internet |
| 03:43:47 | Biont | which is odd because I had it working 2 times before on other occasions...so it's not necessarily because I'm too dumb |
| 03:44:50 | S_a_i_n_t | Just go with one of the prebuilt .apks, less hassle. |
| 03:45:48 | S_a_i_n_t | Or try tracking down Ketut Putu Kumajaya (blackhawk) |
| 03:46:03 | S_a_i_n_t | He's obviously figured it out. |
| 03:46:16 | Biont | it's already running fine on my phone using one of the prebuilt ones |
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| 03:47:21 | Biont | compiling rb has been haunting be for some time now :D I though it might work this time XD |
| 03:47:51 | S_a_i_n_t | Well, if it wasn't for android...I could be of more help. |
| 03:48:01 | S_a_i_n_t | Very, very few devs use CygWin. |
| 03:48:12 | Biont | no problem man. Thank you a lot! |
| 03:48:23 | Biont | I know that :) |
| 03:48:51 | S_a_i_n_t | As I said, if you want to undo the changes to your path from earlier...grab a clean .bashrc file from etc\skel\ |
| 03:49:24 | Biont | I kight as well have a shot at the vm version again |
| 03:49:28 | Biont | *might |
| 03:50:30 | Biont | at least, that's a lot easier to install |
| 03:50:37 | S_a_i_n_t | And if you want to kill CygWin completely, it's as simpleas deleting the .cygwin folder. |
| 03:50:54 | S_a_i_n_t | *cygwin, rather |
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| 03:51:44 | Biont | good to know |
| 03:51:53 | Biont | I'm afk for a cigarette |
| 03:52:03 | LeonTrollski | hello |
| 03:52:29 | LeonTrollski | i seem to have a problem :< |
| 03:54:00 | LeonTrollski | specifically, a sansa fuze v.1 with rockbox 3.7 |
| 03:54:19 | LeonTrollski | USB mode keeps turning on and off when i plug it into the computer |
| 03:54:23 | LeonTrollski | what do |
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| 04:02:06 | Biont | re ...thank you for your help again. Guess I'll just try vmware again |
| 04:02:14 | Biont | goodbye |
| 04:02:30 | S_a_i_n_t | 0/ |
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| 04:03:49 | LeonTrollski | im sorry if this is answered somewhere on the fora/website somewhere. i searched but no luck. |
| 04:05:05 | S_a_i_n_t | I think this happens when the bootloader doesn't support USB, and the build expects it to...did you only update the .rockbox folder, or did you do a complete installation? |
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| 04:06:27 | LeonTrollski | i did a complete install, but the utility installed 3.6 and i just put in the 7.7 .rockbox manually |
| 04:06:34 | LeonTrollski | 3.7* |
| 04:06:41 | S_a_i_n_t | That's why. |
| 04:06:42 | LeonTrollski | so i suppose that may be the problem |
| 04:07:09 | S_a_i_n_t | You can either wait for rbutil to support 3.7, or do a full manual installation. |
| 04:08:39 | LeonTrollski | do i need to uninstall the old one before doing a manual install? |
| 04:08:54 | LeonTrollski | or will it overwrite correctly? |
| 04:09:25 | S_a_i_n_t | It should do. |
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| 04:28:34 | LeonTrollski | could not ope bootloader-fuze.sansa for reading -_- |
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| 04:32:00 | LeonTrollski | ohlolol, the utility is doing 3.7 now nvm. |
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| 06:03:13 | JdGordon | S_a_i_n_t: hypothetically, if we could do bmp selectors... how would you expect it to be configured? |
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| 06:03:35 | JdGordon | and the list scrollbar also |
| 06:03:43 | JdGordon | whack em in the sbs? |
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| 06:04:51 | S_a_i_n_t | errr, ...yes. seems sensible. |
| 06:05:13 | JdGordon | not really.. but its about as good as we can do for now :/ |
| 06:06:01 | S_a_i_n_t | the problem is, or, a problem...is that I'm not 100% all the screens thta could have a scrollbar have .sbs support. |
| 06:06:04 | S_a_i_n_t | Or, do they? |
| 06:06:27 | JdGordon | 99% of them do |
| 06:07:28 | JdGordon | does the scrollbar go inside the ui viewport? or outside of it? |
| 06:08:09 | S_a_i_n_t | I'd say outside, personally. |
| 06:08:33 | S_a_i_n_t | Or so you mean what it *should* do? |
| 06:08:45 | S_a_i_n_t | It *oes* go outside the viewport AKAIK |
| 06:08:47 | S_a_i_n_t | *does |
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| 06:10:38 | JdGordon | so I should do it floating like the %Lt tag? where if it is in the sbs the list will pass of the drawing? |
| 06:10:47 | JdGordon | leave its placement entirely up to the theme? |
| 06:11:58 | JdGordon | the selector bmp should probably be set *inside* the %Vi viewport so you could have different ones for each conditional ui vp |
| 06:13:37 | S_a_i_n_t | I'm trying to think about how the built in one is done. |
| 06:13:49 | S_a_i_n_t | Errrr...do it like that, but with a bitmap ;) |
| 06:14:20 | S_a_i_n_t | I imagine the scrollbar will be a lot easier than the line selector to implement |
| 06:14:50 | JdGordon | actually no :p |
| 06:15:07 | JdGordon | well, much of a muchness really |
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| 06:40:12 | webguest94 | hi all |
| 06:40:45 | webguest94 | is there any one can help me wit my ipod nano?? |
| 06:41:14 | S_a_i_n_t | depends what's wrong with it. |
| 06:41:40 | webguest94 | after install rockbox... i can not get it connect to the pc any more |
| 06:42:29 | JdGordon | hmm... scrolling once again kills everything |
| 06:42:49 | webguest94 | ?? |
| 06:42:50 | JdGordon | you dont want to scroll over the entire bmp... that wont work |
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| 06:43:23 | S_a_i_n_t | webguest94: What Nano is it? And what version of Rockbox did you install. |
| 06:43:36 | S_a_i_n_t | Also, what happens when you connect it to your PC |
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| 06:44:19 | webguest94 | nano 1g rockbox current version... |
| 06:44:37 | S_a_i_n_t | and, what happens when you connect it? |
| 06:44:40 | webguest94 | it said usd need more power |
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| 06:46:47 | S_a_i_n_t | webguest94: What does it say *exactly* when you plug it in? |
| 06:48:01 | webguest94 | umm...give me 1 sec i have to chnage my OS to english |
| 06:49:36 | webguest94 | when i plug it into windows, it donot show up any error msg... |
| 06:49:45 | webguest94 | but just not connect up |
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| 06:50:37 | S_a_i_n_t | what happens on the Ipod's screen? |
| 06:51:20 | webguest94 | normal rockbox menue screan |
| 06:52:26 | S_a_i_n_t | have you tried a different USB port, or a different cable if possible? |
| 06:52:44 | webguest94 | yes |
| 06:53:14 | S_a_i_n_t | Is the Apple firmware detected by the OS? |
| 06:54:54 | webguest94 | how can i go to apple firmware?? |
| 06:55:45 | S_a_i_n_t | power the player off using PLAY, then restart it and quickly flip the hold switch on. |
| 06:57:19 | webguest94 | it work |
| 06:57:51 | S_a_i_n_t | So, the OS detects the player in the Apple firmware? |
| 06:57:58 | webguest94 | yes |
| 06:58:10 | S_a_i_n_t | Right, restart the player using menu+select to boot rockbox. |
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| 06:59:19 | webguest94 | does not read |
| 06:59:29 | S_a_i_n_t | does not read...what? |
| 06:59:56 | webguest94 | done not connect |
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| 07:30:21 | woodensoul | hey all. I'm giving 3.7 a shot on my iPod Video and USB support doesn't seem to work. When trying to write to the disk, I get errors and after browsing a bit through explorer the drive appears blank but isn't. Anyone seen the same thing? |
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| 08:21:39 | bertrik | JdGordon, do you think the radio RSSI patch ( http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8151 ) is good enough to be committed? |
| 08:22:01 | bertrik | It doesn't have the graphic yet, but I think we can commit this first and do the graphic later. |
| 08:23:01 | bertrik | Is there any policy on WPS tags naming? if so, is it OK like it's done in the v11 patch? |
| 08:23:15 | JdGordon | yes, its fine as is (once its in I can fix the skin side pretty quickly) |
| 08:23:45 | JdGordon | can you add some helpers to give an idea of the RSSI if it is actually usable or not? |
| 08:24:03 | JdGordon | I mean, can the drivers be told "this range would be 1 bar, this 2 bars" |
| 08:24:13 | JdGordon | otherwise its up to percentages which doesnt make sens |
| 08:24:13 | JdGordon | e |
| 08:28:54 | bertrik | No, I think it is very hard to this for every radio in an objective way (because probably nobody has targets covering all tuner chips). |
| 08:29:16 | bertrik | We have RSSI_MIN now which represents "no bars" and RSSI_MAX which represents "max bars" |
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| 08:29:36 | JdGordon | and RSSI_CURRENT which is "some bars" ? |
| 08:29:54 | JdGordon | themers will have to use %if() to do some meaningful representation? |
| 08:29:58 | bertrik | And we could tweak RSSI_MIN up a bit, to mean something like "very weak reception" (RSSI_MAX -> very good reception) |
| 08:30:10 | JdGordon | (i.e if RSSI > X show 1, >Y show 2) |
| 08:31:52 | bertrik | If was thinking of interpolating it linearly between RSSI_MIN and RSSI_MAX, something like "image index" = "number of images" * (current - min) / (max - min) |
| 08:32:26 | JdGordon | right, but that doesnt really make sense does it? |
| 08:32:58 | JdGordon | 1/4 of the rssi range doesnt mean 1 bar |
| 08:32:59 | bertrik | why not? what exactly should the graphic show then, other than RSSI ? |
| 08:34:42 | bertrik | We could define a curve for each tuner that maps RSSI to "reception quality" |
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| 08:35:34 | JdGordon | thats what I was trying to say, but simpler :) it really only needs 4 steps |
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| 08:37:02 | bertrik | Many tuners offer much more resolution. Maybe a themer wants 8 steps. |
| 08:37:23 | tmzt | you could use rds biterror as extra information if present |
| 08:39:03 | S_a_i_n_t | I'd probably just go for "good/shit". |
| 08:39:29 | tmzt | use a vu dial or leds like a car radio :) |
| 08:39:31 | bertrik | tmzt, that would make it more complex IMO, AFAIK there's only one tuner in rockbox targets that could do this and it's not enabled in the driver yet |
| 08:39:36 | tmzt | or a FM STEREO led |
| 08:39:56 | bertrik | tmzt, I think we already have a FMS tag for stereo |
| 08:40:10 | n1s | there is |
| 08:41:13 | S_a_i_n_t | indeedy |
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| 09:17:50 | AlexP | JdGordon: RBUtil reads a list of which players are stabe and what the latest release is from the website, which is only updated once daily (at 03:00 CET IBagderRC) |
| 09:19:20 | CIA-8 | New commit by nls (r28405): libtremor: introduce asm optimized version of the channel_couple function for Coldfire and optimize the arm as version, speedup ~1% on Coldfire and ... |
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| 10:19:42 | JdGordon | anyone use the android builds? |
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| 10:40:26 | pixelma | I find two reports of non-working USB connection shortly after the release a bit weird |
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| 10:50:17 | S_a_i_n_t | pixelma: I believe it has to do with build/bootloader missmatch |
| 10:50:32 | pixelma | on older Ipods? |
| 10:50:45 | S_a_i_n_t | Ah...no. |
| 10:51:00 | pixelma | it was about a Nano 1st gen and a Video |
| 10:51:33 | S_a_i_n_t | The nano1st gen I have no idea what was going on...and he just abruptly left |
| 10:51:39 | S_a_i_n_t | the Video I have not seen. |
| 10:52:21 | pixelma | maybe I should try on my c200, pp too at least |
| 10:52:51 | S_a_i_n_t | Unfortunately I don't Nano1Gs anymore |
| 10:53:08 | S_a_i_n_t | otherwise I would have more insight into the Nano1g...but, alas. |
| 10:53:27 | S_a_i_n_t | s/don't/don't have any/ |
| 10:55:45 | JdGordon | does anyone have any suggestions what title to give the android keyboard input dialog? |
| 10:56:04 | AlexP | Colin? |
| 10:56:21 | JdGordon | "Rockbox wants your input" isnt really nice |
| 10:56:32 | S_a_i_n_t | Phillipe |
| 10:56:33 | AlexP | sorry, wrong channel :) |
| 10:57:19 | S_a_i_n_t | Does it need a title? |
| 10:57:28 | S_a_i_n_t | Isn't it pretty obvious what's happening? |
| 10:59:52 | JdGordon | no, the previous screen slides away |
| 10:59:52 | JdGordon | some sort of title would be nice |
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| 11:01:03 | S_a_i_n_t | the same thing happens in RB (without a screen transition), and there's no title. |
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| 11:01:18 | S_a_i_n_t | But, I guess. |
| 11:01:22 | AlexP | but there it is obvious you are still in Rockbox |
| 11:01:47 | JdGordon | I would evetually like to pass a title to kbd_input() so it can be shown, but untill then..? |
| 11:01:54 | JdGordon | just "Rockbox"? |
| 11:02:07 | S_a_i_n_t | I just can't think of anything that doesn't read like a book, or sound bloody obvious like "Keyboard" |
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| 11:03:37 | JdGordon | I'll get a screenshot up to show how it looks... |
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| 11:07:29 | JdGordon | http://imagebin.ca/view/Espzz5Rx.html |
| 11:08:54 | JdGordon | OH FUCKING HELL, WHY IS GRID MODE STILL FUCKING DEFAULT! |
| 11:08:57 | JdGordon | AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR |
| 11:11:47 | JdGordon | so, any suggestions? |
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| 11:17:38 | S_a_i_n_t | go all clinical on its ass..."Rockbox: Input Required" |
| 11:17:56 | * | JdGordon added the rockbox icon to the title |
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| 11:29:06 | pixelma | ok, the c200's r3.7 doesn't have problems establishing a USB data connection on XP but even though it's very similar to the Ipods it's still not 100% the same. I think someone else with an Ipod should try too |
| 11:35:46 | CIA-8 | New commit by jdgordon (r28406): Clean up usage of RockboxService. Add a proper way to check if rockbox is actually running (checking RockboxService.fb != null was very very bad) |
| 11:35:57 | CIA-8 | New commit by jdgordon (r28407): Use a Native keyboard GUI instead of rockbox's internal one on android |
| 11:37:35 | CIA-8 | r28406 build result: All green |
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| 11:39:23 | CIA-8 | r28407 build result: All green |
| 11:40:04 | kugel | saying "RockboxService.fb != null was very very bad", but solving it with a getter wrapper and declaring it clean now... |
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| 11:40:32 | JdGordon | yes, statis fields are not good OO |
| 11:40:47 | JdGordon | either do the singleton or dont |
| 11:41:01 | kugel | singleton == static |
| 11:41:12 | kugel | in essence |
| 11:41:20 | JdGordon | i suggest you go back to school then.. no it isnt |
| 11:41:52 | kugel | I'll go back to school then, daddy |
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| 11:47:01 | kugel | JdGordon: is your eclipse adding these @Override when implementing interfaces? |
| 11:47:38 | kugel | the eclipse on my laptop also did that, but on my desktop it says it's an error |
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| 11:49:40 | bertrik | maybe a difference in java version, or in java compliance level |
| 11:51:29 | kugel | I'm wondering if we should use camelCase in the java files for our own code too. the android api (and all java anyway) is camelCase so it looks very strange when mixed with our under_score scheme |
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| 12:06:20 | Lear | Anyone familiar with the android build system? |
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| 12:11:54 | bertrik | On my clip+, the code for configuring the MCLK for I2S input don't seem to make any difference at all, it looks like recording uses the same clock as playback |
| 12:12:30 | kugel | Lear: what's your question? |
| 12:13:10 | bertrik | in other words, I can just comment out the configuration code and it still works as expected |
| 12:13:28 | kugel | does the bootloader set it? |
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| 12:13:44 | Lear | How to generate the R.java file from the makefiles. Seems like it is assumed to be created via Eclipse or something. |
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| 12:14:02 | bertrik | possibly, I'll have to check whether pcm-as3525 is included in the bootloader |
| 12:14:31 | kugel | Lear: "make $PWD/gen/org/rockbox/R.java" should work |
| 12:14:40 | bertrik | anyway, it appears we don't need to code because even recording at different sample rates works normally without the extra configuration |
| 12:14:48 | kugel | but it should be (re-)generated automatically |
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| 12:15:55 | kugel | I suppose the regeneration doesn't work when new files are added |
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| 12:16:08 | Lear | When I run "make apk" I get this message: "ERROR: resource directory '<path...>\android\res' does not exist". |
| 12:17:14 | kugel | strange, it exists doesn't it? |
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| 12:17:53 | Lear | That's when running the AAPT command. Does that create/update the R.java file? |
| 12:18:02 | Lear | Not the res folder, no. |
| 12:18:14 | kugel | there must be a res folder |
| 12:18:34 | kugel | unless what you abbreviated as "<path>..." isn't what I think it is |
| 12:18:49 | kugel | do you build on cygwin? |
| 12:19:32 | Lear | I abbreviated it. Didn't think the full path was interesting. And yes, that's on Cygwin, yes (after fixing the configure script). |
| 12:19:44 | kugel | the full path is always interesting when something doesn't exist |
| 12:20:04 | Lear | Well, the path was okay, except the "res" bit. |
| 12:20:11 | kugel | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11234 has a patch which fixes building on cygwin |
| 12:22:07 | Lear | Ah, I missed that when I had a quick look at that task. Thanks. |
| 12:24:11 | Lear | And I was a bit too quick about that res path; res does exist (I looked in the build directory first :). Having backslashes as separators might be the problem. But I'll test the build patch first. |
| 12:24:46 | kugel | the res dir is in <svnroot>/android, not in the build dir |
| 12:29:12 | Lear | Ah, that worked better. Now I just need to make sure javac is in my path. |
| 12:32:36 | Lear | Did get this message though: "THIS TOOL IS DEPRECATED." When runnin APK it seems. |
| 12:32:58 | kugel | that's known |
| 12:34:14 | kugel | JdGordon: nice work on the keyboard |
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| 12:40:29 | kugel | JdGordon: unfortunately you don't seem to have cared a lot about existing coding style (tabs, brace placement) |
| 12:48:45 | Lear | Oh, the default statusbar is tiny. :) |
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| 13:40:51 | CIA-8 | New commit by wodz (r28413): Fix and extend imageviewer png support. FS #11641 by me |
| 13:41:13 | LambdaCalculus37 | Bagder, Zagor: (for the logs) Could one of you add the HDD6330 bootloader, sim, and checkwps to the build system? |
| 13:42:06 | teru | can anyone please check the patch on FS #11682, especially manual part? patch is http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11682?getfile=22745 |
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| 13:43:00 | LambdaCalculus37 | teru: Sure. |
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| 13:45:50 | LambdaCalculus37 | teru: I'll fix the wording in the manual portion of your patch and commit it. |
| 13:46:51 | teru | thank you. |
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| 13:48:05 | LambdaCalculus37 | teru: Let me make sure it builds green and works. |
| 13:48:05 | Francy | Hello |
| 13:48:21 | Francy | Hello |
| 13:48:26 | AlexP | yes, hello |
| 13:48:34 | AlexP | If you have a question please just ask |
| 13:48:43 | Francy | Hi, where can I find the gameboy emulator? On the page the plugin do not link to the download ... |
| 13:48:49 | AlexP | It is included |
| 13:48:53 | AlexP | as are all plugins |
| 13:49:06 | AlexP | Just click on a ROM as you would a music file |
| 13:49:40 | AlexP | (assuming it works on your player) |
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| 13:50:50 | Francy | What do you call the plugin that emulates the Game Boy? |
| 13:50:56 | LambdaCalculus37 | Rockboy. |
| 13:51:37 | Francy | Among the plugins do not play ... |
| 13:51:39 | AlexP | I just told you, click on the ROM image. It is a viewer, it doesn't appear on the plugin list (the manual explains this) |
| 13:51:54 | Francy | Not else between games |
| 13:52:01 | AlexP | I don't understand |
| 13:52:42 | Francy | Excuse me if I do not speak English well, I'm Italian |
| 13:54:07 | Francy | gameboy emulator where it should be? |
| 13:54:10 | AlexP | [13:51:38] <AlexP> I just told you, click on the ROM image. It is a viewer, it doesn't appear on the plugin list (the manual explains this) |
| 13:54:29 | Francy | I understand thanks = D |
| 13:55:04 | Francy | Just download the roms and the select and start? |
| 13:55:15 | AlexP | Don't ask about ROMs here |
| 13:55:39 | AlexP | Unless the legal homebrew type |
| 13:55:40 | Francy | I know |
| 13:55:50 | Francy | I download the legal roms |
| 13:55:51 | AlexP | But yes, once you have the rom, select it as you would a music file |
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| 13:56:40 | JdGordon | why does the "DB not read, Initialize now" splash not end in a ? |
| 13:56:49 | JdGordon | or have I messed up the c->java again? |
| 13:57:09 | AlexP | I thought it did, but I couldn't swear to it |
| 13:57:23 | LambdaCalculus37 | teru: Your patch builds green and works. In it goes. :) |
| 13:57:30 | JdGordon | looks like it doesnt |
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| 14:00:36 | LambdaCalculus37 | teru: Want to commit it? |
| 14:01:42 | teru | yeah. does the manual look ok? |
| 14:02:11 | LambdaCalculus37 | teru: I did make a little change to the manual portion of the patch. If you'd like, I can also commit the patch for you on my end and include the wording fixes I made to the manual. |
| 14:03:01 | CIA-8 | New commit by rmenes (r28414): Commit FS #11682 by Teruaki Kawashima: fix the disktidy plugin ... |
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| 14:05:02 | LambdaCalculus37 | teru: I didn't intend of committing it right away, and my message was incomplete. |
| 14:05:09 | Francy | I downloaded a game for the gbc, how do I get it to work? |
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| 14:05:41 | Francy | I downloaded a game for the gbc, how do I get it to work? |
| 14:07:04 | LambdaCalculus37 | Francy: Pleaes stop repeating your question. AlexP already explained to you how to play GB/GBC games. |
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| 14:08:04 | teru | LambdaCalculus37: thank you for checking. |
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| 14:08:43 | LambdaCalculus37 | teru: You're welcome. |
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| 14:12:04 | CIA-8 | New commit by jdgordon (r28415): Use a native yes/no dialog instead of rockbox's internal one on android |
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| 14:26:12 | kugel | JdGordon: was that change to KeyboardActivity intented? |
| 14:26:41 | JdGordon | yes |
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| 14:29:42 | wodz | AlexP: Do I need to change something to include png imageviewer plugin in manual for non color targets? |
| 14:31:29 | AlexP | wodz: Yes, edit manual/plugins/main.tex and change the \opt(s) |
| 14:31:43 | AlexP | What is it now dependent on? |
| 14:33:26 | AlexP | also edit manual/plugins/pngviewer.tex for things like buttonmaps |
| 14:33:32 | AlexP | And screenshots too :) |
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| 14:34:43 | knopper | hi |
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| 14:36:37 | knopper | hmm my brother just bought a new Sansa Fuze MP3 player, but he dont wants, to make me rockbox on it, and so im considering to buy a fuze+, but does rockbox run on this model also? |
| 14:36:44 | knopper | i think its very new or? |
| 14:37:26 | Alchimysta | Hi |
| 14:37:33 | AlexP | knopper: No it doesn't |
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| 14:38:01 | knopper | my brother has a fuze v2, i think it is also new or? |
| 14:38:03 | Alchimysta | Posso fare una domanda? Svilupperete rockbox per Ipod Nano 3G? |
| 14:38:08 | AlexP | English please |
| 14:38:09 | Alchimysta | Can I ask a question? Will develop Rockbox for Ipod Nano 3G? |
| 14:38:15 | AlexP | If someone does it |
| 14:38:25 | AlexP | Ports are done by interested owners, not on demand |
| 14:38:36 | AlexP | knopper: The Fuze v2 is supported |
| 14:38:42 | knopper | and how long does the fuze v2 port take? |
| 14:38:51 | knopper | a year? |
| 14:39:00 | AlexP | Do you mean how long did it take? |
| 14:39:12 | knopper | yes from the v1 port to the v2 port |
| 14:39:22 | AlexP | That is irrelevent |
| 14:39:27 | knopper | because v2 is very new or |
| 14:39:32 | AlexP | New hardware = nobody knows |
| 14:39:42 | knopper | i only know that v1 was released in 2008 |
| 14:39:51 | knopper | v2 also? |
| 14:39:58 | AlexP | That doesn't matter, they are different players |
| 14:40:09 | AlexP | They may have the same name and case, but they are different inside |
| 14:40:22 | knopper | so the fuze+ too? ^^ |
| 14:40:26 | AlexP | It is impossible to say how long a port will take |
| 14:40:38 | AlexP | Nobody is working on the Fuze+ to my knoweldge |
| 14:40:46 | knopper | ah ok |
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| 14:41:27 | Alchimysta | I did not understand. So do not go out no version of Rockbox for iPod nano 4G? |
| 14:41:34 | AlexP | no |
| 14:42:20 | knopper | ipod is irrelvant, u can buy an ipod touch, than jailbreak it, and then you can do nearly everything |
| 14:42:30 | AlexP | That is just silly |
| 14:42:30 | Alchimysta | Ho sbagliato a scrivere: Non ho capito bene. Quindi non uscirà mai la versione di rockbox per ipod nano 3g? |
| 14:42:36 | AlexP | English only |
| 14:42:43 | Alchimysta | I was wrong to write: I did not understand. So do not go out no version of Rockbox for iPod nano 3G? |
| 14:42:49 | AlexP | no, there is not |
| 14:43:06 | AlexP | All the models that work with Rockbox are listed on www.rockbox.org |
| 14:43:28 | Alchimysta | I know |
| 14:43:41 | AlexP | So what is there not to understand? |
| 14:43:42 | knopper | but i wonder why there is no port for an ipod touch, because soo many people have it |
| 14:43:52 | AlexP | Because nobody has done it |
| 14:44:02 | knopper | so my conclusion is, they jailbreak it, and there is no more need for rockbox |
| 14:44:02 | AlexP | Ports are done by interested owners |
| 14:44:28 | AlexP | Rockbox as a firmware replacement makes no sense on the touch |
| 14:44:35 | AlexP | Rockbox as an application might do |
| 14:44:46 | knopper | so rockbox is not an os? |
| 14:44:48 | AlexP | But a port is hard work, and is only done by those that want to use it |
| 14:44:49 | knopper | linix os? |
| 14:44:52 | knopper | linux |
| 14:44:53 | AlexP | Yes, it is on OS |
| 14:44:54 | Alchimysta | I did not understand. But the version created for ipod nano 3g? |
| 14:44:58 | AlexP | No, it is not based on linux |
| 14:45:04 | knopper | ah ok |
| 14:45:07 | AlexP | Alchimysta: There is NO version for nano 3g |
| 14:45:11 | knopper | ok than its hard ^^ |
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| 14:45:31 | Alchimysta | Ma uscirà ? |
| 14:45:34 | AlexP | ENGLISH |
| 14:45:45 | Breaking | Hi guys.... |
| 14:45:45 | Alchimysta | But it will come out? |
| 14:45:57 | AlexP | Alchimysta: Only if someone who wants it does the work |
| 14:46:04 | AlexP | Alchimysta: Nobody is working on it |
| 14:46:56 | Breaking | Why? |
| 14:47:03 | AlexP | Why what? |
| 14:47:22 | Alchimysta | Breaking sei Alchimista? |
| 14:47:27 | Breaking | yep |
| 14:47:38 | AlexP | really, for the last time - English only in here |
| 14:47:40 | knopper | if it is not based on linux and so a completly new os, than its hard work |
| 14:47:44 | knopper | yes^^ |
| 14:47:47 | AlexP | That is already done |
| 14:47:55 | AlexP | For new ports drivers need writing |
| 14:47:57 | AlexP | etc. |
| 14:48:07 | knopper | hmm so a new port there are only small changes? |
| 14:48:10 | AlexP | There is also a port of Rockbox to work as an application |
| 14:48:16 | AlexP | That depends on the hardware |
| 14:48:19 | knopper | ok |
| 14:48:23 | AlexP | Usually a new player = new hardware |
| 14:48:29 | AlexP | So it is not easy, no |
| 14:48:30 | knopper | ok |
| 14:48:32 | AlexP | Read read www.rockbox.org/wiki/NewPor |
| 14:48:36 | AlexP | er, read www.rockbox.org/wiki/NewPort |
| 14:48:39 | Alchimysta | Is there a emulator to emulate the Game Boy Advance on Rockbox? |
| 14:48:45 | AlexP | No |
| 14:48:59 | Alchimysta | out? |
| 14:49:04 | AlexP | ? |
| 14:49:21 | knopper | ahh ive red it |
| 14:49:28 | knopper | c and assembler ^^ |
| 14:49:30 | AlexP | That is how it works |
| 14:49:33 | knopper | thats not easy |
| 14:49:38 | AlexP | well yes, it is an OS |
| 14:50:24 | Alchimysta | Where can I find more games for Rockbox? |
| 14:50:30 | AlexP | They are included |
| 14:50:39 | Breaking | Thank you for your work. We look for the version for iPod Nano 3G. Hello and good day |
| 14:50:42 | knopper | i think these are all games already or? |
| 14:51:03 | AlexP | Other than that, there is a gameboy emulator, the spectrum zx emulator, the frotz port |
| 14:51:16 | AlexP | Breaking: Don't hold your breath, nobody is working on it |
| 14:51:54 | Alchimysta | Where do I find other versions of doom? |
| 14:52:08 | AlexP | You mean wad files? |
| 14:52:35 | Alchimysta | Yes |
| 14:52:37 | AlexP | The internet |
| 14:52:50 | AlexP | No idea if they will work with the Doom port in Rockbox |
| 14:53:27 | Alchimysta | ok.. |
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| 14:54:57 | Alchimysta | <AlexP>: Che lavoro svolgi per rockbox? |
| 14:55:06 | Alchimysta | <AlexP>: What work plays in Rockbox? |
| 14:55:13 | AlexP | I asked you four times now, ENGLISH ONLY |
| 14:55:23 | AlexP | And I don't understand that question |
| 14:56:02 | Alchimysta | <AlexP> :Why do you always respond? |
| 14:56:14 | AlexP | Because I'm trying to help you |
| 14:56:35 | S_a_i_n_t | And to tell you repeatedly that this channel is ENGLISH only |
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| 14:56:52 | Alchimysta | Ah ok I understand |
| 14:57:26 | Alchimysta | But you have to put one that responds in Italian because it is difficult to talk with the translator of google ...! |
| 14:57:37 | AlexP | Not that I know of |
| 14:57:52 | AlexP | If someone can help you in Italian, they can PM you |
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| 14:59:05 | Alchimysta | The release of Rockbox are created by whom? |
| 14:59:12 | AlexP | The developers |
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| 14:59:44 | Alchimysta | So anyone can create a version of Rockbox? |
| 14:59:54 | AlexP | If they obey the licence, sure |
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| 15:01:05 | Alchimysta | Ok, thanks for answering :D |
| 15:01:13 | AlexP | We would prefer people to work with us and contribute, but it is open source so if people stick to the licence they can do what they want |
| 15:01:30 | wodz | AlexP: png viewer should depend on lcd_bitmap now |
| 15:02:24 | AlexP | wodz: great - the changes in manual/plugins/main.tex is trivial, the ones in manual/plugins/pngviewer.tex are slightly longer, the buttonmaps need adding |
| 15:02:40 | AlexP | Then screenshots are just a pain in the backside, but the sim can do them |
| 15:03:45 | wodz | AlexP: hmm I can see buttons defined for B&W and grey targets in pngviewer.tex |
| 15:03:52 | AlexP | oh, cool |
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| 15:04:18 | AlexP | oh yes, me too |
| 15:04:21 | AlexP | good spot :) |
| 15:04:56 | wodz | so trivial change to plugins/main.tex and screenshots right? |
| 15:04:57 | AlexP | Actually, there aren't any screenshots for anything |
| 15:05:11 | AlexP | So don't worry about them |
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| 15:05:17 | AlexP | Just main.text then |
| 15:05:21 | wodz | :-) |
| 15:05:26 | AlexP | :) |
| 15:06:08 | n1s | screenshots for an image viewer makes no sense :) |
| 15:06:15 | AlexP | there are a couple of opts to change |
| 15:06:20 | AlexP | n1s: Indeed not :) |
| 15:06:31 | wodz | would you be so kind to make such change - I don't feel confident with manual thing |
| 15:06:32 | AlexP | wodz: lcd_color for lcd_bitmap for the include |
| 15:06:34 | AlexP | sure |
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| 15:07:13 | wodz | have to go :/ |
| 15:07:16 | teru | jpeg viewer, png viewer and bmp viewer share button map, so tables in the manual would be same. |
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| 15:07:26 | AlexP | Not in the manual |
| 15:07:36 | AlexP | they are seperate tex files |
| 15:08:48 | pixelma | they could share one extra buttontable file which could be linked from pngviewer.tex (or whatever it is called) |
| 15:09:01 | AlexP | yep, but they don't currently :) |
| 15:10:17 | pixelma | would be nice probably - same reason I split out the keymaps from the main platform files (e.g. before all Ipods that share same keypad defined their own and would have needed editing a few different files for one change |
| 15:10:40 | pixelma | if the c code is shared... |
| 15:10:48 | AlexP | yep, would be goo |
| 15:10:49 | AlexP | d |
| 15:11:29 | pixelma | do we have a Mr.ManualSomeone? ;) |
| 15:12:13 | AlexP | hehe :) |
| 15:12:35 | AlexP | We do have a ManualToDo or somesuch |
| 15:12:58 | pixelma | true but when was it last changed? Must be aaaages ago |
| 15:13:54 | CIA-8 | New commit by kugel (r28416): Factor out the start/stopForeground and notification icon management into a separate class, don't let RockboxService.java become a beast. |
| 15:15:40 | CIA-8 | New commit by alex (r28417): Manual: PNG Viewer is no longer only for colour LCDs |
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| 15:25:35 | pixelma | AlexP: did you also have a look at the disktidy patch which LambdaCalculus committed before? I find the use of '*' a bit too much |
| 15:25:48 | AlexP | I'm just looking now |
| 15:26:05 | AlexP | There is also a "the" not capitalised after a full stop |
| 15:26:23 | pixelma | in the manual part. I know teru asked before and LambdaCalculus said he'd have a look |
| 15:26:30 | AlexP | yeah, manual part |
| 15:27:50 | AlexP | I'm rewriting a bit now |
| 15:30:12 | AlexP | also US spelling :) |
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| 15:31:38 | S_a_i_n_t | me finds the UK manual/US source bloody confusing... |
| 15:31:43 | S_a_i_n_t | +/ |
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| 15:34:32 | AlexP | pixelma: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/283847/ |
| 15:34:49 | AlexP | S_a_i_n_t: I don't see why - US source code is standard, so we use that |
| 15:35:10 | AlexP | We chose to use UK spelling for the manual/user facing stuff |
| 15:35:28 | AlexP | We have to suffer all the bloody time with US spelling, so for once they can do likewise :) |
| 15:36:23 | S_a_i_n_t | It's just the mix of the two I find weird...should flip a coin for one or the other ;) |
| 15:36:35 | S_a_i_n_t | (a loaded one, so UK wins ;p) |
| 15:36:38 | AlexP | No, as source isn't going to change |
| 15:36:59 | AlexP | there isn't really a choice there |
| 15:37:35 | AlexP | You wouldn't find e.g. English source code and French UI weird, think of it like that |
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| 15:42:55 | pixelma | AlexP: sounds nicer but I'm not sure about the "OS" thing getting lost - if you know th plugin a bit, you know that there are predefined choices for cleaning Windows, Mac or some Linux filebrowser specific files and folders. It wasn't very descriptive before either though, so I guess leaving it to the user to see while trying is enough |
| 15:43:30 | AlexP | pixelma: I mainly removed that as "OS's" is wrong and "OSs" looks funny |
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| 15:43:45 | pixelma | ah, I see that it is in the menu item's description |
| 15:44:00 | n1s | Operating systems? |
| 15:44:10 | AlexP | yes, it could be expanded |
| 15:44:13 | pixelma | AlexP: so yeah, no objections :) |
| 15:44:51 | AlexP | also, it isn't just OS files |
| 15:44:58 | AlexP | I'm not fussed one way or the other :) |
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| 16:25:52 | Biont | Hello! I'm back with some fresh error messages that occur while trying to compile for android |
| 16:27:08 | Biont | oh wait, let me try something first |
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| 16:32:58 | CIA-8 | New commit by kugel (r28421): Add support multimedia keys/buttons to the core, and adapt Rockbox on android for it (multimedia buttons are found on wired headsets and the lock ... |
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| 16:35:03 | Biont | alright... http://pastebin.com/7pMGLnax |
| 16:35:16 | Biont | any idea what I need to do? |
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| 16:36:04 | gevaerts | install a java compiler, possibly? |
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| 16:36:49 | kugel | Biont: you should have a java compiler if you followed the installation guide for the sdk |
| 16:38:00 | kugel | hm, it seems RaaAoA got a lot more user friendly just today |
| 16:38:55 | Biont | hm...I didn't read about that anywhere |
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| 16:40:46 | CIA-8 | New commit by kugel (r28422): tabs -> spaces in the new Yesno java files and remove unused imports. |
| 16:41:56 | kugel | Biont: if you have debian/ubuntu/mind do sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jdk |
| 16:42:33 | Biont | thank you |
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| 16:44:55 | Biont | I can't believe it! I just compiled rockbox :D |
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| 17:04:23 | kugel | oh iap makes firmware->apps calls |
| 17:04:55 | kugel | maybe not |
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| 17:08:36 | kugel | iap seems to be an ideal candidate for the multimedia buttons |
| 17:09:01 | kugel | the buttons are apparently currently used for the action system, but it's probably a lot more useful to use them as multimedia buttons |
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| 17:12:34 | kugel | perhaps it would be more useful on other devices with a remote as well, although I can imagine that on remotes with a display you want to use the buttons in the classic way |
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| 17:22:35 | CIA-8 | New commit by kugel (r28423): Default to absolute point mode on RaaA and Onda targets. Cowon D2 and MRobe 500 stick to grid mode for now. |
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| 17:25:26 | webguest13 | Why isn't the new multimedia code protected by #ifdef? |
| 17:25:40 | webguest13 | kugel: ^^ |
| 17:25:45 | kugel | where? |
| 17:26:22 | webguest13 | In the .c files |
| 17:26:40 | kugel | which? |
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| 17:27:47 | webguest13 | kugel: menu.c |
| 17:28:55 | kugel | it's ifdeffed in misc, in the other places it's too minor to obfuscate the code with #ifdefs |
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| 17:30:15 | webguest13 | It's not much, but it's a bit weird to see the code with HANG_UP in the "simple" builds. But I agree that it may be isn't worth the hassle |
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| 17:40:46 | Biont | test |
| 17:41:05 | Biont | ?? |
| 17:41:38 | Biont | okay my connection seems to be acting up :/ |
| 17:42:06 | Biont | http://pastebin.com/SRbFDe0p I don't know if this got through |
| 17:44:23 | kugel | Biont: my bad |
| 17:44:31 | kugel | I wonder why the build system didn't catch that |
| 17:44:37 | Biont | okay |
| 17:45:16 | CIA-8 | New commit by kugel (r28424): Fix red. Why did it go unnoticed through the build system? |
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| 17:46:55 | kugel | I think we could start handing out android builds soon |
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| 17:47:19 | Biont | that would be great XD |
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| 17:50:20 | preglow | i sure want a new one :> |
| 17:50:45 | Biont | can't wait to test that kinetic scrolling |
| 17:50:49 | preglow | indeed |
| 17:50:52 | preglow | and absolute mdoe |
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| 17:50:57 | preglow | grid mode made me a bit crazier than usual |
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| 17:51:56 | pixelma | you could have switched to absolute point before |
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| 17:56:35 | hstammlerj | Hi there! |
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| 17:59:18 | hstammlerj | Can anybody help me by inserting some data to the wiki? I've tested an ipod accessory and would like to share the data... |
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| 18:00:34 | kugel | preglow: I put new builds up |
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| 18:01:30 | Alchimysta | Hello |
| 18:01:43 | pixelma | hstammlerj: did you already register (which wiki name then) and ask for write access? |
| 18:02:15 | Alchimysta | I would have to ask yourself one question: Is there a 'NES emulator for Rockbox? |
| 18:02:21 | AlexP | no |
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| 18:02:27 | Alchimysta | no? |
| 18:02:31 | AlexP | Alchimysta: In future, please check the manual |
| 18:02:41 | Alchimysta | Ah ok , excuse me... |
| 18:03:01 | hstammlerj | pixelma: I tried, but the page only refreshs by clicking register, seems there is something going wrong... so my idea was to give the data somebody who has access... |
| 18:03:42 | Alchimysta | But come out the other emulators for Rockbox? |
| 18:04:45 | AlexP | Alchimysta: I don't understand the question |
| 18:05:57 | Alchimysta | In the future, create new emulators for Rockbox? |
| 18:06:23 | AlexP | Anyone can work on anything they want |
| 18:06:26 | preglow | pixelma: interesting :> |
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| 18:06:31 | preglow | kugel: sweet, i'll try em out |
| 18:06:37 | AlexP | Alchimysta: Developers just work on what they are interested in |
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| 18:07:04 | AlexP | Alchimysta: However more recent consoles will be difficult - daps have very limited resources |
| 18:07:29 | kugel | there's a patch for nes emulator but it has license problems |
| 18:08:41 | Alchimysta | The NES console in 1990 |
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| 18:08:59 | AlexP | yes, but emulation is very very hardware intensive |
| 18:09:08 | AlexP | Anyway, NES should just about be possible |
| 18:10:30 | Alchimysta | <kugel>: What patch? |
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| 18:12:35 | kugel | Alchimysta: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/2911 |
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| 18:13:44 | cormon | What is the best device to rockbox with the most features? |
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| 18:16:22 | Alchimysta | What happened to the project of 'NES emulator? |
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| 18:17:09 | hstammlerj | seems there is nobody to catch the info? |
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| 18:18:14 | soap | cormon, there is no one device with the most features. |
| 18:18:18 | AlexP | cormon: All targets have all features that the hardware supports |
| 18:18:22 | AlexP | (more or less) |
| 18:18:46 | cormon | ok |
| 18:18:49 | soap | cormon, http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/BuyersGuide |
| 18:19:50 | AlexP | although that is incomplete these days |
| 18:20:00 | soap | hstammlerj, if you wish to email me the info, just make sure to give me data for every table column. hstammlerj@cleansoap.org |
| 18:20:18 | soap | it's a wiki, fix it AlexP! |
| 18:21:16 | hstammlerj | soap: Thank you very much, you'll have mail in some minutes. :-) |
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| 18:21:35 | AlexP | soap: thanks :) |
| 18:23:25 | Alchimysta | as that between a song and another, when I change, there's a space of 2-3 seconds? |
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| 18:26:27 | Alchimysta | as that between a song and another, when I change song, there's a space of 2-3 seconds? |
| 18:26:49 | AlexP | Alchimysta: Please don't repeat your question, wait for someone to answer |
| 18:27:14 | AlexP | I take it you mean that when you skip song, there is a pause? |
| 18:27:19 | AlexP | What player, what codec? |
| 18:28:01 | Alchimysta | Mp3 |
| 18:28:11 | Alchimysta | sansa Fuze |
| 18:28:30 | hstammlerj | Have a nice day, I appreciate your work. |
| 18:28:49 | soap | hm GAH |
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| 18:29:08 | soap | hstammlerj, I got your email. Did you have accessory power turned on? |
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| 18:30:08 | Alchimysta | Never mind .. |
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| 18:34:09 | Alchimysta | Where can I download the NES emulator for Rockbox? I have read around the internet that have downloaded it .. |
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| 18:34:42 | AlexP | Alchimysta: You can't, it is an old patch |
| 18:35:05 | AlexP | Alchimysta: You need to set up a build environment, patch the source code, maybe fix the patch, then compile rockbox |
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| 18:36:02 | Alchimysta | I am not able .. I'll wait for someone to do these things .. |
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| 18:40:10 | soap | Alchimysta, considering the most recent work on that plugin is almost a year old, I don't think it is going out on a limb to say it will not compile without some work. So there is very little incentive for someone who hasn't cared enough to already do this to now do it. If you are interested you are much more likely to receive help with your efforts than someone to come out of the blue and do it for you. |
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| 19:00:54 | Alchimysta | What is this page? http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/ConsoleEmulators |
| 19:02:41 | evilnick | Alchimysta: It's a wiki page that "lists various game systems and emulators to help with the porting to rockbox." |
| 19:05:48 | Alchimysta | the translator translates badly, you can rewrite it in simpler words? |
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| 19:06:49 | evilnick | It shows projects that *could* one day maybe become part of Rockbox. Provided that a developer is interested enough |
| 19:07:24 | evilnick | i.e. emulators for PCs that are under compatible licenses and written in C (I think) |
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| 19:08:31 | Alchimysta | evilnick:thanks for your kindness |
| 19:12:01 | Alchimysta | Does anyone speak Italian? |
| 19:16:36 | Alchimysta | ... |
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| 19:36:04 | kugel | preglow: how's it? |
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| 20:02:25 | MTes | hello |
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| 20:02:57 | MTes | Anyone available? |
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| 20:04:00 | krazykit | in general, it's best to just ask the question then wait patiently |
| 20:04:10 | MTes | I don't have that kinda time |
| 20:04:13 | MTes | lol |
| 20:04:14 | MTes | sorry |
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| 20:04:38 | krazykit | unfortunately, irc doesn't stand for instant reply chat. maybe ask on the mailing list? |
| 20:04:57 | evilnick | Try asking anyway, and if anyone does know then they'll reply |
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| 20:05:09 | MTes | I was curious if rockboxing an ipod would affect how it behaves with things like iPod ready car sterios and such |
| 20:05:30 | MTes | or docks |
| 20:05:32 | AlexP | yes |
| 20:05:38 | AlexP | It could do |
| 20:05:41 | MTes | and to what degree |
| 20:05:55 | AlexP | It depends how they interact |
| 20:06:09 | evilnick | In the OF it won't affect it at all, in Rockbox things might or might not work depending on how much of the Ipod Accessory Protocol is used |
| 20:06:30 | MTes | and if it does will I be able to un-rockbox the player |
| 20:06:32 | AlexP | Or if it is just MSC, and if it does stupid thing dependent on USB IDs |
| 20:06:42 | evilnick | Remember that Rockbox is dual-boot on the iPods so reverting to the Original Firmware is trivial |
| 20:06:43 | AlexP | MTes: Yes, you can uninstll, but Rockbox does dual boot |
| 20:06:49 | AlexP | MTes: Please read the manual |
| 20:06:51 | MTes | oh |
| 20:06:57 | MTes | sweet I didnt know that it was dualbootr |
| 20:07:02 | MTes | dualboot** |
| 20:07:05 | AlexP | That's what the manual is for |
| 20:07:09 | AlexP | To tell you stuff |
| 20:07:14 | MTes | yeah well |
| 20:07:19 | MTes | thanks guys |
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| 20:46:06 | tcm1998 | hi all |
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| 20:59:38 | Biont | kinetic scrolling is awesome :) |
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| 21:02:05 | tcm1998 | do you mean that the device takes the speed your finger goes over the screen in account? |
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| 21:02:28 | tcm1998 | like on the iphone? |
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| 21:09:06 | preglow | kugel: theme seems to be broken in the new build, or do i need to do something fancy? |
| 21:09:19 | kugel | define broken |
| 21:09:25 | preglow | it's the default one |
| 21:09:28 | preglow | tiny, tiny font |
| 21:09:39 | preglow | impossible to hit any menu items |
| 21:09:49 | kugel | 320x480? |
| 21:10:05 | preglow | aye |
| 21:10:06 | preglow | htc legend |
| 21:11:05 | kugel | what do you have in /sdcard/rockbox? |
| 21:11:37 | preglow | sec, gotta get my cable |
| 21:11:46 | kugel | the default font (27-Adobe-..) is in the apk, but if you have a fonts folder in /sdcard/rockbox which doesn't have that font rockbox won'tsee it |
| 21:11:58 | kugel | no filebrowser app? :) |
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| 21:12:18 | preglow | haha, i do have one |
| 21:12:22 | preglow | but touch is broken because of the font |
| 21:12:28 | preglow | and the trackball thing is impossible to use |
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| 21:12:55 | kugel | hit the home button to get out |
| 21:13:15 | preglow | just gotta set the browser to view all files |
| 21:13:35 | Biont | tcm1998: yep |
| 21:13:47 | preglow | kugel: practically nothing in there |
| 21:14:03 | preglow | kugel: never needed to zip anything to it before, just assumed i didn't have to now either |
| 21:14:04 | tcm1998 | in that case, I agree, it's a pretty cool feature |
| 21:14:24 | tcm1998 | IF it works propery |
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| 21:14:39 | kugel | preglow: I don't know what went wrong for you, but I suggest uninstalling, deleting /sdcard/rockbox, then reinstalling |
| 21:14:52 | preglow | will do |
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| 21:14:58 | kugel | the apk I uploaded works fine on my legend |
| 21:14:59 | tcm1998 | on my archos tablet, it often ignores my movements :( |
| 21:15:54 | Biont | I have yet to find a longer list to scroll through, but it works fine for me. The only thing I niticed is that it immediately stops moving if I move my finger over the edge of the screen |
| 21:16:21 | tcm1998 | hmm, thats' weird |
| 21:16:41 | preglow | kugel: talking http://www.alice-dsl.net/simonemartitz/rockbox/rockbox-320x480.apk still, yeash? |
| 21:16:47 | kugel | yes |
| 21:17:00 | preglow | still the same |
| 21:17:21 | preglow | deleted the rockbox folder from within rockbox, uninstalled and reinstalled |
| 21:17:24 | * | kugel tries the same procedure |
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| 21:19:15 | kugel | preglow: WFM |
| 21:19:37 | preglow | meaning? :> |
| 21:19:41 | kugel | works for me |
| 21:19:45 | preglow | wonderful |
| 21:19:48 | kugel | what's the md5sum of your apk? |
| 21:20:06 | preglow | i'll try to work again |
| 21:20:10 | preglow | eh |
| 21:20:13 | preglow | i'll try to download again |
| 21:22:18 | Biont | is there supposed to be more in the rockbox folder than a bunch of files? |
| 21:22:19 | preglow | same shit |
| 21:22:25 | preglow | i'll get the cable |
| 21:23:37 | preglow | 93a3017918e28d95a544df7df88b12b6 *rockbox-320x480.apk |
| 21:23:51 | kugel | same here |
| 21:24:36 | preglow | but how does the android package work? there's no resources in it i can see, just the rb binary |
| 21:24:50 | kugel | there's libmisc.so |
| 21:24:58 | kugel | that's rockbox.zip with a different name |
| 21:25:05 | preglow | nice :> |
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| 21:25:43 | preglow | nothing i can zip by hand to /rockbox? |
| 21:26:06 | preglow | it looks exactly like that is what i can do :> |
| 21:26:46 | kugel | you can download the font zip and extract it to /sdcard/rockbox |
| 21:27:04 | preglow | unzipping libmisc.so worked |
| 21:27:53 | preglow | kinetic scrolling seems nice, it probably be even more kinetic, to match android closer |
| 21:28:08 | preglow | some more inertia |
| 21:28:43 | preglow | hm, it's actually not bad at all |
| 21:29:30 | preglow | zomg, absolute seeking seekbar |
| 21:29:34 | kugel | unzipping libmisc.so to /sdcard/rockbox will not work |
| 21:29:35 | preglow | i gotta learn android coding |
| 21:29:40 | preglow | kugel: amazingly, it did |
| 21:29:50 | kugel | but you won't be able to play music |
| 21:29:55 | preglow | i am as we speak |
| 21:30:25 | kugel | then the unzipping to the internal storage worked and the issue that the theme doesn't work is even mroe stranger |
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| 21:30:36 | kugel | is, by any chance, your internal rom full? |
| 21:30:43 | preglow | hm |
| 21:30:50 | preglow | don't think so, but will check |
| 21:31:08 | preglow | oh sweet god, can't they give us froyo soon |
| 21:31:19 | kugel | get cyanogenmod :) |
| 21:31:39 | kugel | (totally worth it) |
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| 21:32:03 | preglow | got 84 megs left internal |
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| 21:32:48 | kugel | with a trick you can browse the internal folder of rockbox, maybe you can do it to see if cabbiev2 was extracted properly |
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| 21:33:24 | kugel | set something as "Start filebrowser here", then edit config.cfg to let it point to /data/data/org.rockbox/ |
| 21:34:28 | kugel | btw, what did you mean with "zomg, absolute seeking seekbar"? |
| 21:34:46 | kugel | the progressbar in the wps? |
| 21:35:16 | preglow | yea :> |
| 21:35:33 | preglow | wonderful, phone rebooted |
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| 21:36:30 | saratoga | bluebrother: could you change the rockbox utility text a little? I dislike the bold message saying that releases are recommended, perhaps just saying that releases are well tested and linking to the release notes would be better? |
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| 21:37:21 | preglow | kugel: what am i looking for? |
| 21:37:40 | kugel | what do you mean? |
| 21:37:51 | kugel | do you see the internal rockbox folder? |
| 21:37:55 | preglow | yes |
| 21:38:16 | preglow | app_rockbox/ and lib/ is all i see |
| 21:38:20 | kugel | app_rockbox/rockbox/ has the unzipped libmisc.so |
| 21:38:30 | preglow | it's got a dir named codecs/ |
| 21:38:33 | preglow | which is empty :> |
| 21:38:47 | kugel | that can't be :\ |
| 21:39:10 | kugel | the codecs are loaded from there. you couldn't play music |
| 21:39:23 | preglow | wait a sec, show files reset itself to supported |
| 21:39:43 | preglow | yeah, codecs are here |
| 21:39:50 | preglow | and database.ignore, and viewers.config |
| 21:39:54 | preglow | that's it for rockbox/ |
| 21:40:09 | preglow | org.rockbox/lib constains libmisc.so and librockbox.so |
| 21:40:13 | kugel | and you can't load them from the sdcard since that's mounted with noexec |
| 21:40:29 | kugel | ah ok |
| 21:40:53 | kugel | any themes, wps, fonts directories? |
| 21:41:18 | preglow | nah, what i mentioned is it |
| 21:41:35 | kugel | so codecs are being extracted, but the themes not? |
| 21:41:57 | kugel | I have no fking idea what's going on there |
| 21:42:14 | preglow | org.rockbox/ has app_rockbox/ in it, which contains rockbox/, which contains codecs/* and database.ignore and viewers.config |
| 21:42:18 | preglow | that's it |
| 21:42:39 | preglow | apart from org.rockbox/lib which contains the usual suspects |
| 21:42:44 | kugel | libmisc.so has clearly more files in it |
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| 21:42:51 | preglow | yep, i've opened it to check |
| 21:42:57 | preglow | and also extracted it, for that matter |
| 21:44:01 | kugel | what you could do is uninstalling again, but then hooking up adb logcat to see if it reports some error during extraction |
| 21:44:18 | kugel | (upon first start after reinstalling) |
| 21:44:33 | kugel | but if you got the codecs and libmisc.so on the sdcard it should work fine for now |
| 21:44:52 | kugel | the codecs is the only thing that must go into the internal rom |
| 21:45:40 | preglow | explain how to do the adb logcat business and i'm game |
| 21:45:52 | preglow | i have a beer handy in case it gets frustrating :> |
| 21:46:00 | kugel | you need the sdk, the adb tool is in the tools folder |
| 21:46:07 | preglow | yep, got that |
| 21:46:32 | preglow | need to enable usb debugging? |
| 21:46:45 | kugel | you need to you need to execute "adb devices" with root before otherwise it won't see the legend |
| 21:46:52 | kugel | yes |
| 21:47:57 | Biont | did I get that right? fonts and themes can be added by putting them into sdcard/rockbox? |
| 21:48:22 | kugel | before you start rockbox for the first time do "adb logcat | grep -i Rockbox", then it should print some debug stuff |
| 21:48:34 | kugel | Biont: yes you did |
| 21:48:53 | kugel | but if you do it won't see the default theme anymore so be careful :) |
| 21:49:02 | kugel | (we need to find a solution for this) |
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| 21:49:58 | Biont | ?? so only the themes on the sdcard will show up? |
| 21:50:19 | kugel | right |
| 21:50:56 | preglow | kugel: ok, so i do "adb devices", install rockbox, do "adb logcat", check for rockbox entries, ok? |
| 21:51:26 | Biont | okay, I guess I can live with that. I just want to get back to theming soon. |
| 21:51:37 | kugel | preglow: yes |
| 21:51:51 | kugel | check if adb devices really shows some device |
| 21:51:54 | preglow | it does |
| 21:52:02 | preglow | but adb logcat made my vim nonresponsive :/ |
| 21:52:04 | preglow | guess i should reboot |
| 21:55:21 | preglow | hmm |
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| 21:55:24 | preglow | things seem different now |
| 21:55:31 | preglow | kugel: it worked now :/ |
| 21:55:48 | preglow | but rockbox also didn't crash on first launch after install now |
| 21:55:53 | preglow | i guess that figures into it :P |
| 21:56:09 | preglow | it now instead said "rockbox is loading" or something for a while |
| 21:56:36 | kugel | it's supposed to do that |
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| 21:56:56 | kugel | unzipping takes a while |
| 21:57:02 | preglow | yeah, i figured |
| 21:57:14 | preglow | earlier, android reported rockbox had crashed pretty fast after installing |
| 21:57:40 | michael_cheah | so with 3.7 the Fuze v2 is considered "stable"? |
| 21:57:45 | michael_cheah | does the USB works? |
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| 21:58:15 | kugel | preglow: uhm that you could've given that info earlier |
| 21:58:45 | preglow | how was i supposed to know rockbox should autostart and init after installing? |
| 21:59:11 | kugel | it is not |
| 21:59:18 | preglow | then surprise, it does |
| 21:59:59 | kugel | no app auto starts after installing |
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| 22:00:15 | kugel | there seems to be strange things happening on your phone |
| 22:00:24 | preglow | it's a stock install |
| 22:00:30 | preglow | recently reset |
| 22:00:58 | preglow | i installed it via the net browser, that might autostart it |
| 22:01:10 | kugel | did logcat report something that looks like an error? |
| 22:01:14 | preglow | logcat hangs |
| 22:01:25 | kugel | :\ |
| 22:01:30 | preglow | nah, wait, it didn't |
| 22:01:36 | preglow | broken buffering |
| 22:01:47 | saratoga | michael_cheah: read the release notes |
| 22:01:54 | kugel | yea it can kind of overflow |
| 22:02:22 | preglow | kugel: just a bunch of extracting msgs |
| 22:02:28 | preglow | all seems normal |
| 22:02:41 | kugel | then I guess extracting worked this time |
| 22:02:51 | michael_cheah | saratoga: well, no mention of USB on v2 as far as i can see |
| 22:02:53 | preglow | any fancy code involved in that? |
| 22:02:53 | michael_cheah | :( |
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| 22:03:20 | kugel | no, not really |
| 22:03:23 | michael_cheah | oh sorry it's under Known Bugs |
| 22:03:33 | kugel | just java's inbuilt zip support |
| 22:03:37 | preglow | oh well, i'll check the logs next time it happens |
| 22:04:16 | preglow | btw, how to get to the root menu from the file browser without pressing back ten times? |
| 22:05:22 | kugel | hit the (tiny) rockbox icon at the top left or long press the back button |
| 22:05:41 | kugel | oh long press doesn't work |
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| 22:05:48 | kugel | we need bigger icons anyway |
| 22:06:01 | preglow | don't see a rockbox icon |
| 22:06:14 | kugel | we could have menu go to the main menu instead of context menu |
| 22:06:23 | preglow | i think that makes more sense |
| 22:06:33 | preglow | long press something for context feels more right |
| 22:06:41 | preglow | long press screen, probably |
| 22:06:49 | kugel | meh, sorry. I mean the icon on the left of the menu title (what's a rockbox icon in the main menu) |
| 22:07:07 | kugel | but it's hard to hit, so no there's no easier way :) |
| 22:07:20 | kugel | long press screen already works |
| 22:07:27 | kugel | for context menu |
| 22:07:38 | preglow | ah, yes it does, kinda exptected it to pop up before i released |
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| 22:09:36 | CIA-8 | New commit by wodz (r28425): Separate mas35xx lowlevel stuff. Move SH specific bits to target tree. FS #11189 by me. |
| 22:10:12 | preglow | cyanogenmod looks interesting anyway |
| 22:10:25 | kugel | I installed it, the htc bug was too much for me |
| 22:11:00 | Biont | what is the htc bug? |
| 22:11:02 | preglow | yeah, it's goddamn annoying |
| 22:11:09 | preglow | try to background rockbox :> |
| 22:11:37 | kugel | with launcher pro you can get most of the htc widgets back (but it costs $2). for the rest there are pretty damn good other alternatives |
| 22:11:54 | kugel | (if you like sense, as I do :)) |
| 22:12:03 | CIA-8 | r28425 build result: 0 errors, 3 warnings (wodz committed) |
| 22:12:21 | Biont | works for me, but I'm running the wildpuzzle rom |
| 22:12:23 | wodz | hmm |
| 22:12:50 | kugel | Biont: grabbing cpu power when in background doesn't work on htc phones |
| 22:12:57 | preglow | sense is pretty ok, but don't care too much |
| 22:13:07 | preglow | only thing i need i pretty much the calendar app :> |
| 22:14:21 | Biont | hm well playback doesn't seem to be affected if rb is in background |
| 22:14:49 | kugel | the stock calendar app is ok. what sucks is the agenda widget (which shows the upcoming events), but the android agenda widget (on the market) is a great replacement |
| 22:15:36 | wodz | kugel: have you tried clang for arm to build android RaaA? |
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| 22:15:45 | kugel | no |
| 22:16:21 | kugel | I have never tried clang at all :) |
| 22:16:42 | preglow | it's pretty sweet |
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| 22:16:49 | preglow | promising project as a whole |
| 22:16:56 | Biont | btw. is switching between portrait and landscape somewhere on the horizon? |
| 22:17:11 | wodz | kugel: apple use it to compile stuff for iOS so I think it may be pretty well optimizing on arm v6 |
| 22:17:14 | Biont | I guess that will make the theme system pretty interesting |
| 22:18:10 | kugel | the theme system is what's blocking any dynamic screen resolution stuff |
| 22:18:33 | preglow | we pretty much need separate wpses for each mode |
| 22:18:41 | preglow | too different for dynamic resizing to work |
| 22:21:15 | Biont | hm well separate wps would be okay as long as lists and AA get rotated properly :P |
| 22:21:38 | kugel | Biont: rockbox will work in landscape, you just need to compile it, change the AndroidManifest.xml and port cabbiev2 |
| 22:22:32 | kugel | patches for a flexible theme engine is welcome of course :) |
| 22:23:08 | CIA-8 | New commit by wodz (r28426): fix yellow |
| 22:23:30 | preglow | kugel: using a calendar widget is a good idea :D |
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| 22:24:16 | kugel | there's nothing special about the sense calendar app really |
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| 22:25:18 | CIA-8 | r28426 build result: All green |
| 22:25:45 | wodz | \o/ |
| 22:26:16 | wodz | now codebase is a little bit cleaner :-) |
| 22:26:53 | kugel | wodz: nice cleanup! |
| 22:27:19 | kugel | mp3_playback.c and sound.c bugged me also |
| 22:28:37 | wodz | there are still some calls to mas stuff left but I wanted this to be commited before something break my patch :-) |
| 22:30:06 | kugel | if like doing this kind of work, look at apps/debug_menu.c, it also screams for moving lots of stuff into the target tree :) |
| 22:31:24 | kugel | preglow: the procedure for installing custom roms on the legend isn't trivial but I can only recommend doing it |
| 22:32:26 | wodz | kugel: hehe I have local branch where I started to clean up debug_menu.c but this is tremendous work |
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| 22:33:30 | kugel | i have started with sh sometime but I lost interest |
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| 22:37:55 | wodz | kugel: Refactoring debug_menu.c is really huge task. I think it may be easier to do it in small steps. For example moving GPIO stuff to target tree is fairly trivial. |
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| 22:52:50 | CIA-8 | New commit by wodz (r28427): fix make VERSION=x.y to work again |
| 22:54:52 | CIA-8 | r28427 build result: All green |
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| 22:56:41 | JdGordon | so much for accepting the voting consensus.... |
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| 22:57:05 | wodz | ? |
| 22:57:39 | JdGordon | not you :) |
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| 22:59:03 | wodz | you mean absolute mode went in for anything but d2 and mrobe500? |
| 22:59:06 | kugel | the vote was for the other targets which I didn't touch |
| 22:59:37 | wodz | hmm I understood it other way round. |
| 22:59:51 | kugel | what to do about them was the whole point of the discussion, not what to do about the ones I changed |
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| 23:00:35 | JdGordon | no, I made it very clear i was staying no while it was possible to get stuck in any screen... so android maybe, pretty sure the onda has no hardware buttons so it can get stuck |
| 23:00:50 | wodz | kugel: My understanding of the discussion was that general issues should be resolved BEFORE commit |
| 23:00:59 | kugel | +1 from the maintainer was enough for me |
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| 23:02:24 | saratoga | i don't think potential issues with an unusable port are a big deal, particularly if the port's developers are onboard |
| 23:03:07 | kugel | that RaaA would be changed was clear from the beginning, the discussion was what to do about the other touchscreens (whether to just force absolute point to get people fix the remaining issues or do it differently) |
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| 23:08:30 | wodz | kugel: I appreciate your work but personally I don't like the way you force your solution |
| 23:09:09 | kugel | I didn't force my solution, I didn't even apply it |
| 23:09:34 | kugel | JdGordon: I have two patches for the yesno screen, perhaps you want to have a look? |
| 23:10:11 | kugel | the one is using wakeup_wait() instead of polling for the activity result, the other is using the localized yes/no text for the buttons |
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| 23:13:14 | JdGordon | put them on fs, im off to work |
| 23:13:44 | wodz | kugel: shouldn't FS #11686 be closed? |
| 23:13:54 | kugel | right, thanks |
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| 23:19:22 | kugel | JdGordon: I noticed if I click cancel in the keyboard widget it doesn't actually cancel |
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| 23:20:30 | pixelma | I wondered about the commit too btw. and understood the discussion like there still have to issues to be solved for all touchscreen targets |
| 23:21:11 | saratoga | is there an atrac3 test sample somewhere? |
| 23:21:11 | pixelma | but I didn't see myself in a position to comment on it much because I don't have a touchscreen target |
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| 23:23:50 | * | pixelma wonders if the "may" in kugel's mail is a typo that makes the whole thing sound even more unfriendlly |
| 23:24:32 | kugel | probably |
| 23:25:01 | pixelma | ? You don't know if it should have been a "maybe" |
| 23:25:24 | preglow | probably not :Z |
| 23:26:13 | Bagder | I think some of our regulars should consider their tone on the ML more often |
| 23:26:27 | kugel | no, not a typo, but it wasn't my intention to be unfriendly. I've stated several times in the thread that I believe that nothing will be done for the issues in question if they're left untouched |
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| 23:26:51 | Bagder | and I agree with the action, I think it was the correct one |
| 23:26:52 | pixelma | with the "may" it sounds like a bad wish |
| 23:27:18 | preglow | Bagder: yeah, threads seem to end up in an unfriendly tone pretty quick |
| 23:27:21 | kugel | I definitely don't wish it |
| 23:27:23 | pixelma | to my understanding |
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| 23:27:51 | preglow | but that seems to be the big internet trend for the last 10 years, so |
| 23:28:51 | kugel | but yea, I see that it wasn't worded very nicely |
| 23:29:15 | preglow | kugel: is the background scheduler thing a htc bug or a 2.1 bug? |
| 23:29:34 | kugel | I'm pretty sure it's htc specific |
| 23:30:03 | kugel | there's a bug report on android's tracker where only htc users complain |
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