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#rockbox log for 2010-11-01

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01:24:57saratogaanyone with good with ARM still awake?
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02:17:23saratogathrew my atrac iQMF in ARMv5e up on the tracker
02:17:35saratogadoesn't work yet, i'm obviously missing something about how the atrac codec works
02:17:54saratogai think i'm scaling the same samples either 2 times or missing some :)
02:18:13saratogamaybe MT or Buschel can look at it and tell me if I'm missing something
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02:23:04kugelsaratoga: weren't you working on libmad?
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02:25:06kugelJdGordon|: did you have further progress on your open() remake?
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02:26:04kugelI'm thinking it would make enabling some plugins a lot easier, the current solution isn't implemented for plugins yet (and all plugins would need the same changes as the core did)
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02:31:04tmztwhy not use something like newlib?
02:31:08tmzttoo bi?
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02:32:16kugeltmzt: this is not about implementing open() but wrapping the path passed to open()
02:32:54saratogakugel: yeah I am, but I wanted to try out something easier first
02:33:12saratogathe atrac optimization is for the same function libmad uses, but the atrac one is less complicated
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02:35:01kugelcould they use the same implementation?
02:35:28saratogano, they're quite different in terms of implementation
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02:35:35saratogabut the general idea is sort of the same
02:37:42saratogai think on paper the armv5e version should be 2x as fast as the armv4 version, but i want to see in practice how fast it really is and also how much rounding error using 16 bit multiplies actually introduces
02:40:00*JdGordon| has a pretty good idea how to do multi-screen-size support in the skin code :)
02:40:32JdGordon|at least on load anyway, switching to portraight/landscape after load could be interesting
02:42:09saratogawhy does arm have a "16 * 16 bit and accumulate long" instruction, and a "32 * 16 bit and accumulate" but no "32 * 16 bit and accumulate long" instruction
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02:42:24saratogawhy would i want a higher precision output of the instruction that only takes low precision inputs
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02:44:02tmztyou always throw those extra bits away anyway??
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02:46:24saratogai guess you're supposed to use SMLSLD ((Signed Multiply Subtract accumulate Long Dual) with the second multiplicand set to 0
02:46:33saratogathe manual suggests that it will use early termination
02:46:43saratogaso i guess its just as fast as a real instruction for doing this
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02:50:16saratogahuh no its not the same
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02:51:54saratogastupid arm
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03:47:41Topy44hm, i have been wondering... is it possible to get rockbox to only charge by usb but not connect to it? so i cant continue using it (especially for recording) while its connected to a pc or usb charger or something?
03:48:03JdGordon|read the manual... holding menu should do that
03:48:11Topy44oh, must have missed that one
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03:51:00Topy44its the A-B button actually, and it works, thanks
03:51:12Topy44(also i have never, ever used that button before, just discovered what it does :)
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07:33:12S_a_i_n_tliar: ping?
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08:55:50bluefoxxAny olympus m-robe owners alive in here tonight?
08:57:28S_a_i_n_tbluefoxx: Just ask you're question, if someone can help, they will.
08:58:07bluefoxxWell I've come into ownership of a nice little mrobe, but I've no cable for it
08:59:12bluefoxxI scrounged the connector for it off of it's dock, managed to find the power pins, but the pinout I was given was off, power/ground were reversed for one, having corrected that, I've failed to find the USB pinout
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08:59:43bluefoxxIt's a cute little unit and I'd love to manage to rockbox it, but so far I've no way to connect it to a PC
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09:01:26S_a_i_n_twas it simply a charging dock? I take it you couldn't use the dock to connect it to the PC...especially now.
09:01:26bluefoxxIf anybody could tell me what the correct pinout for USB is, it'd be of some good help to me
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09:02:02bluefoxxWell it was a full-on-dock, but the cable that would have connected it to a PC was the exact same thing as what the mrobe itself uses
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09:02:22S_a_i_n_tbluefoxx: First hit on google:
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09:02:35S_a_i_n_tjust searched for m-robe+pinout
09:02:56bluefoxxYeah, that's backwards.
09:03:00S_a_i_n_tsince you know the power pins, it is easy to work out the rest.
09:03:29bluefoxx1 and 2 were actually power
09:03:44bluefoxxNot ground
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09:04:33bluefoxxI mean, hell, it even says it's wrong on that page >
09:07:18S_a_i_n_tseems to fit your finding of pins 1&2
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09:10:12S_a_i_n_tlet me know how you get on bluefoxx, that's from the development wiki for the m-robe 500i so I would expect it to be correct
09:11:01S_a_i_n_tthat should also give you what you need to make a lineout adapter ;)
09:11:41bluefoxxWell now I've got windows saying that it can't recognize the device
09:11:50bluefoxxThat's *something* I guess
09:12:04bluefoxxOh wait
09:12:08bluefoxxThere it goes
09:12:08S_a_i_n_tI believe the m-robe needs it's own driver...but I'm not 100%
09:12:12bluefoxxSuddenly decided to work
09:12:13S_a_i_n_tAh, nice.
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09:12:24S_a_i_n_tGlad I could help.
09:12:50S_a_i_n_tI hope you're going to rockbox it this isn;t all offtopic ;p
09:13:16bluefoxxThat's the idea
09:14:26bluefoxxNeed to get it to boot *something* first though, it's only ever complained "invalid/missing file" since I managed to get it to power on
09:15:02S_a_i_n_tWell, you're a lot closer to that now that you can transfer to the device.
09:15:18bluefoxxThe microdrive in it was replaced, the new one was blank, I tried tossing the portal player firmware file on there and a rockbox folder, but it didn't care about those apparently
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09:18:11S_a_i_n_tbluefoxx: Perhaps this can help
09:20:34S_a_i_n_tth windows installer is here:
09:20:54S_a_i_n_tbluefoxx: ^
09:21:47bluefoxxThat'll help, thank you
09:23:12S_a_i_n_tNo worries, apparently my google-fu is working correctly tonight.
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09:51:40Buschelsaratoga: regarding your AMRv5e patch -> the scaling looks strange... if e.g. smlawb() does y=a*b>>16 the fixmul15() should do the same (>>=16). from what I can see so far (just compiling now) the sim will internally overflow. when doing >>=16 within fixmul15() the >>=16 after atrac3_imdct_windowing() should be obselete as well. also, I am not sure why you perform >>=7 at some place...
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10:19:09Buschelsaratoga: I have updated your patch. issue solved for sim.
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10:42:26Buschelcan anyone with an iPod 4G, Color and/or nano 1g please check FS #11707 ?
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11:31:53Tornegevaerts: we should take out the 64mb ipodvideo build from the current builds/buildsystem too...
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11:56:54liarS_a_i_n_t: pong
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11:57:49S_a_i_n_tI had some interesting effects with your v4 LCD sleep patch, it inverts the LCD until after it wakes for the first time (colours are negative).
11:59:30S_a_i_n_tI thought I should let you know, for now I'm using the v3 patch with LCD sleep ifdef'd out of the bootloader build.
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12:16:25JdGordonwho would be the best person to talk to about the text drawing? specifically ltr/rtl type stuff?
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12:36:52JdGordon1amiconn: You know the text drawing code right? can you have a look at and point in the right direction to fix it?
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13:13:52CIA-8New commit by teru (r28428): reduce casts between "unsinged char *" and "fb_data *". make calculation precise. maintain spaces.
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13:15:26amiconn<no files> :P
13:15:54CIA-8r28428 build result: All green
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13:28:30pixelmaJdGordon: even with your clarification the above thread is very hard to follow. Do you reckon it's a problem of the "RTL/LTR" WPS tags or something more general? I first read it along the lines that there is a problem when everything is set to RTL because of the chosen language and then the metadata is RTL again
13:28:31pixelmaas I said, I'm quite confused by the thread in general though
13:28:46JdGordonyeah it is pretty confusing
13:28:58JdGordonthe full hebrew line is backwards
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13:30:49JdGordonthat really makes no sense to me, but is actually happning... the mixed line has the text in the correct order
13:31:08*amiconn also doesn't understand the problem
13:31:09JdGordonwhich probably means I need to do some magic in the skin rendering, but not sure what is expected
13:31:27amiconnProbably because I don't understand which part is what
13:32:39JdGordonI'll mangle the image in a few miinutes to make it obvious
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13:38:26pixelmaJdGordon: I believe tomers did the RTL/LTR theme tags, maybe you could get a hold of him
13:38:55JdGordonI'm not sure if this is a skin problem or text drawing problem...
13:39:44JdGordonbooting into windows to get a usable paint program...
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13:50:08JdGordonpixelma: amiconn: I've attached an image which hopefully makes it clearer
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13:53:13pixelmais this "only" an issue if the metadata is LTR then? Trying to understand...
13:53:43JdGordonI doubt it
13:54:13JdGordonI'm guessing it is an issue with how the skin text is rendered... each text section is concated
13:54:20JdGordonI dont understand why its wrong though
13:57:16JdGordonactually.. I think its more or less doing what it shuold
13:57:22pixelmaso where do the two different ways to display it come from, is one a mockup then?
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13:57:58LambdaCalculus37Bagder, Zagor: Could one of you guys add the GoGear HDD6330 bootloader, checkwps, and sim to the build system? They all build green.
13:58:09JdGordonhmm, no
13:58:28*LambdaCalculus37 wants to add the links to the installation instructions on the wiki
13:58:29JdGordonpixelma: no, they are actual screenshots
13:59:32JdGordonhow does gdb handle utf8 strings?
14:01:09pixelmaI wonder about the role of the "%Sr" tag there. I'm still confused though
14:03:53JdGordon%?Sr is "is the language rtl?"
14:05:07pixelmaI think so, explanation in the manual says: "Use as a conditional to define options for left to right, or right to left languages. %?Sr<RTL|LTR>"
14:05:10*JdGordon is now confused on %aR
14:05:37JdGordonalign right + rtl? does that mean left for rtl and right for ltr?
14:06:11JdGordoncode says yes
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14:11:01JdGordonok, maybe %ac is confusing everything
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14:13:52JdGordonif %ax is used on the viewport then I think %aR might end up actually forcing right aligned on rtl
14:14:21JdGordonwhich would explain the hebrew being backwards... although it doesnt explain why the half+half line is backwards also
14:14:48pixelmabut in this part "%?Sr<%aR%t(3)%s%?it<%it|%fn>" isn't %aR unneeded as this part is only used for RTL anyway ? I'm about to give up trying to understand though
14:14:55JdGordoni mean, the half+half line is the correct order
14:15:35JdGordonthat aligns to the left in the rtl case.
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14:17:13pixelmabut it wouldn't need the special "decide this based on language direction" tag then, it seems to be doubling up something
14:20:15JdGordonwell you still want to say where to align the text in the viewport
14:20:26JdGordonif %ax is used then yes it probably isnt needed
14:21:55pixelma"simple" %ar/%al do nothing with RTL languages?
14:22:50JdGordonsure they do, they align the text left or right in the viewport, *always* left or right
14:23:12JdGordonaR/L do left or right depending on the language
14:23:48pixelmayes, but the info is already aquired by %?Sr, no?
14:24:46pixelmaexcept maybe for the metadata
14:25:33JdGordon%Sr checks which direction the language is (so you can change the order of the tags)
14:25:46JdGordonit doesnt touch the actual alignment at all, or drawn direction
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14:28:03pixelmasure, but where's the difference if you use the "simple" %ar inside the true part of the %?Sr conditional? I don't know what additional voodoo the %aR does and which is why I find the use a bit weird and could imagine that it can cause trouble
14:28:54JdGordon%ar doesnt care about the language direction, so will always draw on the right of the viewport
14:29:07JdGordonsomethign is very wrong with this wps I think
14:29:30JdGordonif he posts the full one we can figure out what is actually happening
14:30:50pixelmaif the %aR is in the true part of the %Sr then it means that you could just use the simple %al inside it to get the same effect. I basically want to understand if the checking for language direction twice could have an influence
14:31:39pixelmaor maybe I miss something basic like %ar or %al can not be used conditionally
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14:45:06preglowwhat screens can one get stuck in in absolute mode?
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14:47:29KenHello Guys!
14:47:29kugelno screen on Android
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14:49:55Keni speak english xD
14:50:06LambdaCalculus37Ken: Do you have a question?
14:50:13KenHem, Yes
14:51:31Kenthere is a gba emulator for Rockbox, or if you know to quit?
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14:52:01LambdaCalculus37Ken: There is no GBA emulator for Rockbox. There's only Rockboy, which is a GB/GBC emulator.
14:52:10AlchimystaI have a question: I found this page about the plugin that emulates the NES on the rock box, what is the file you download? and how do I run it on my Sansa Fuze?
14:52:23Ken<LambdaCalculus37> Thanks
14:53:08KenWant to visit my forum?
14:53:14LambdaCalculus37Alchimysta: There's a patch in Flyspray that you have to search for. You'll have to compile your own build with the patch applied.
14:53:23KenWant to visit my forum?
14:53:27LambdaCalculus37Ken: No. Don't start spamming.
14:53:59KenI don't want to spam, just to ask: (
14:54:54LambdaCalculus37Ken: Advertising forums and such like that is considered spamming and off-topic for this channel.
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14:55:45Alchimysta<LambdaCalculus37>: How do you build a patch? with that program?
14:56:30LambdaCalculus37Alchimysta: and
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14:57:09AlchimystaThanks!!! I love you xD
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15:00:26Alchimysta<LambdaCalculus37>: Someone else is not already completed the program or do I do?
15:00:50AlexPYou need to set up a dev environment, apply the patch, maybe fix it, then compile Rockbox
15:00:56AlexPJust as I told you yesterday
15:01:14LambdaCalculus37Alchimysta: You can work on the patch if you're interested.
15:01:35CIA-8New commit by zagor (r28430): Added HDD6330 boot, sim and wps
15:02:31LambdaCalculus37Zagor: Thanks! :)
15:06:37AlchimystaSome are interested fill out the NES emulator??
15:07:05AlexPAlchimysta: The answer hasn't changed since yesterday
15:07:16AlexPPlease don't just repeat the same question
15:08:23AlchimystaI don't have asked the same question yesterday -.-"
15:09:13AlexPYou were asking the same questions about the NES emulator yesterday
15:09:20AlexPNobody is going to do it for you
15:10:01AlchimystaYesterday I asked if he left the emulator.. -.-"
15:10:11AlexPI don't understand that
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15:14:20AlchimystaNothing... -.-" The google translator sucks
15:17:11AlchimystaBecause every now and then (the version 3.7 of Rockbox) does not connect via USB?
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15:23:45LambdaCalculus37Alchimysta: Are you experiencing flaky USB with Rockbox? And on what player?
15:24:38joem86hey guys, just installed rockbox on my sansa fuze v2. I can't seem to mount it as a USB device while booted into rockbox. It mounts just fine in the factory firmware
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15:27:40AlexPjoem86: I don't think USB is implemented in rockbox for the fuzev2 yet
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15:29:57_joem86sorry if this is a repost but my internet crapped out on me. My sansa fuze v2 won't mount as an external hd running rockbox, but mounts just fine running stock. Any ideas?
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15:30:51Alchimysta<LambdaCalculus37>: My player is Sandisk Sansa Fuze
15:31:53n1sjoem86: is that with the 3.7 release?
15:32:00AlexP[15:27:38] <AlexP> joem86: I don't think USB is implemented in rockbox for the fuzev2 yet
15:33:09Buschelsaratoga: you there?
15:33:23AlexPfrom the SansaAMS wiki page "Clip+/Clipv2/Fuzev2: USB support is currently disabled because it fails randomly. Until its ready, use the OF's USB by booting the OF before connecting the USB cable."
15:35:14AlchimystaI have a sansa fuze v1 and usb is activated
15:36:17AlexPAlchimysta: yes, I wasn't talking to you
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15:37:02joem86nls, yes. It's the most up-to-date afaik
15:37:17AlexPjoem86: I've answered, see above
15:37:17joem86AlexP: thanks, good catch
15:37:24n1sjoem86: well, as AlexP said usb is disabled in rockbox on those players
15:37:38n1sit is mentioned in the release notes
15:38:08joem86yeah, I missed that. Thanks guys!
15:38:30AlexPno worries :)
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15:38:51saratogaBuschel: am now, did you see my comment?
15:39:12saratogabasically I want to get rid of that shift by 15 in the fixmul function, then port that to the arm assembly
15:39:54Buschelsaratoga: yes, I am a bit confused... why do you need to get rid of it? I thought the asm command does >>=16 before storing the result to the register?
15:40:44Tornehm, why does init_tagcache take 37 centiseconds on a device where the db isn't initialised and isn't loaded to ram?
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15:41:09Tornethat seems kinda sucky :)
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15:42:04saratogaBuschel: the arm manual says it is "providing the top 32-bits of the result"
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15:42:17saratogai read that to mean it returns the results unshifted
15:42:22saratogamaybe i misunderstand though?
15:42:38n1s "The top 32 bits of the 48-bit product are written to the destination register. The bottom 16 bits of the 48-bit product are ignored."
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15:43:12n1si read that as >>= 16
15:43:14saratogaso it is shifted
15:43:16Buschelsaratoga: I think so, because the result is 32x16 = 48 bits. so, the keeping the top most bits is the same as >>=16 before storing the results to 32 bit register.
15:43:17saratogahuh ok
15:43:23zvoneXpcan someone help me
15:43:28saratogaso this is really a lot easier then i thought
15:43:42n1szvoneXp: if you tell us what you want help with, maybe
15:43:42TornezvoneXp: only if you say what the problem is, instead of asking if we can help
15:43:50zvoneXpi have a problem when i go in itunes recovery mode that resotre my ipod 4g
15:44:02zvoneXpbut when finsh he stock on apple logo
15:44:06zvoneXpand cannot boot
15:44:11zvoneXpi tryed instal rockbox
15:44:11Buschelsaratoga: so, the >>15 in fixmul15 is fine. in ASM you'll just need to perform a <<=1 to the result of the multiply-add section
15:44:13zvoneXpbut error
15:44:28TornezvoneXp: if the ipod doesn't boot the original firmware properly to start with, then installing rockbox isn't going to work
15:44:40Torneif it wasn't working to start with then there's something wrong with your ipod, not rockbox...
15:44:49zvoneXpbut ipod dont work
15:44:54zvoneXpbecause i go in recovery mode
15:44:58zvoneXpand i restore
15:45:05zvoneXpbut when he need reboot
15:45:09zvoneXphe stock on apple logo
15:45:14Buscheln1s: you saw my comment regarding the mpc filter?
15:45:14Tornethen there's something wrong with your ipod.
15:45:28zvoneXpFLASH memory
15:45:40saratogawhat flash memory
15:45:42Torneif it doesn't work immediately after restoring in iTunes then it's almost certainly broken...
15:45:54Tornealso, the ipod 4g has a hard drive, not flash
15:45:54Buscheln1s: and you said you could free a register? this could help with reducing stalls for arm9tdmi
15:46:20n1sBuschel: yes, that idea works only on armv6 though
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15:47:05n1sby using the 32*32=64>>32 instructions that accumulate in a 32 bit acc and so only needs one register
15:47:13TornezvoneXp: look on apple's support pages. you might want to boot it into diagnostic mode and let it test itself: hold rewind and select immediately on poweron
15:47:26Tornerockbox can only be installed on ipods which are working properly
15:47:32Tornei.e. booting the original firmware
15:47:35zvoneXpbecause i can enter in diagnostic mdoe
15:47:53Torneand if you restored it then any problem you are having can't be to do with rockbox :)
15:48:18Torneprobably, either hte logic board has failed or hte hard drive has failed
15:48:34zvoneXpi will go in apple service
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15:53:30saratogahah tried on target and its just static, so i guess i have more then just the precision wrong :)
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15:56:18zvoneXpguy thanks on help but NOW WORKING
15:56:31zvoneXpi installed recovery via notebook and work
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16:00:51*LambdaCalculus37 needs links to the HDD1630 and HDD6330 bootloaders
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16:01:39Buschelsaratoga: at least the sim should give you a reference now ;o)
16:03:50LambdaCalculus37There are no bootloaders for either the HDD1630 or HDD6330 in for some reason.
16:06:48mc2739LambdaCalculus37: did you provide bootloaders to Bagder or Zagor to upload to the server?
16:07:14LambdaCalculus37mc2739: They're already in the build system.
16:07:49mc2739the build system only saves firmware builds - the bootloaders and sims are never uploaded
16:08:13LambdaCalculus37mc2739: Ahh, okay.
16:08:46*LambdaCalculus37 will build bootloaders for both devices and email them to Zagor and Bagder
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16:13:26LambdaCalculus37Zagor: Once I send the bootloader for the HDD1630, I think it's time the port got a promotion to Unstable. Everything on the port works well enough for daily use, and all that's needed is just a manual.
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16:14:16dan23does rockbox support the ipod nano 4th generation?
16:14:31n1sdan23: no
16:14:45dan23ok, thanks
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16:16:18Buscheln1s: I managed to squeeze another 1.4 MHz out of mpc's synthesis filter for arm9tdmi. would you mind to check on your armv6 target? ->
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16:16:51n1sBuschel: gtg now, might be able to check later or tomorrow
16:17:00Buscheln1s: effect on PP will be quite negative though...
16:17:13Buscheln1s: ok, that's fine, bye.
16:17:18n1sis that with the other patch or clean svn
16:17:19AlexPLambdaCalculus37: If you are building bootloaders for release, don't forget to build with correct version numbers, tag SVN etc.
16:17:25Buscheln1s: clean svn
16:18:19LambdaCalculus37AlexP: Righto.
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16:23:50wodzLambdaCalculus37: You may be interested in
16:25:05LambdaCalculus37wodz: Ahh, perfect. Many thanks!
16:26:25wodzLambdaCalculus37: You need revision after 28427 for make VERSION=x.y work correctly
16:27:43LambdaCalculus37wodz: I'll update my local trunk before I do this, then.
16:27:54LambdaCalculus37I haven't updated since yesterday morning.
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16:35:51LambdaCalculus37wodz: Dumb question since this is the first time I'm actually doing this... do I have to commit the tagged bootloader release?
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16:36:49wodzWhat do you mean by commit tagged bootloader?
16:37:24wodztag is just a matter of marking some particular revision
16:37:38LambdaCalculus37wodz: <−− This is what I meant.
16:39:03wodzif you do tag as described it will appear in tags dir
16:39:25LambdaCalculus37Ahh, so it's handled automatically, then.
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16:43:54AlexPwell sort of, that is what tagginng is
16:46:10LambdaCalculus37AlexP: Well, this is going to be the first time I actually do this, and it's also to shake the rust off from not having done any active Rockbox-related anything for a few months. :)
16:46:25AlexPsure, 'tis good to do :)
16:50:12LambdaCalculus37Can someone take a look at FS #11705 and see if it looks good?
16:50:32LambdaCalculus37I have no programs that can open SVG files on my work PC.
16:51:09LambdaCalculus37Ditto for FS #10329
16:59:10Buschelsaratoga: regarding the static noise as result of your atrac-change -> could this simply be overflowing? you may make a quick experiment and pre-scale the windowing coefficients by another >>=4 and see what is happening.
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17:26:51saratogaanyone with a coldfire player available to verify fs#11710?
17:29:19AlexPyeah, give me a few minutes
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17:37:28AlexPsaratoga: Froze on 37 seconds on H100
17:37:54AlexPFroze on the WPS, I had to get the paperclip out
17:38:41saratogaok so its some coldfire problem
17:38:45saratogait works normally on ARM
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17:45:07gevaertsLambdaCalculus37: you can add targets yourself!
17:45:38LambdaCalculus37gevaerts: I'm going to tag bootloaders for release for the HDD1630 and HDD6330 now.
17:45:51LambdaCalculus37gevaerts: And I couldn't add targets before because I didn't have SVN access! ;)
17:49:37LambdaCalculus37Aaaaaand.... it's tagging time! :)
17:50:05CIA-8New commit by rmenes (r28431): Tag release v1 of the Philips GoGear HDD16x0 bootloader
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17:51:53n1sBuchsel: your asm patch speeds up mpc on the beast ~3.3MHz 29.56->26.20MHz for the 128k sample
17:52:37CIA-8New commit by rmenes (r28432): Tag release v1 of the Philips GoGear HDD63x0 bootloader
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17:58:09AlexPLambdaCalculus37: The tag should have a version number
17:59:28LambdaCalculus37AlexP: Snap... =/
18:00:02LambdaCalculus37AlexP: Can I fix those or is it too late?
18:00:08AlexPI don't know
18:00:28saratogacan you just check them out, change them, and then commit?
18:01:01LambdaCalculus37saratoga: I suppose I could do that.
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18:08:08LambdaCalculus37AlexP: So I guess do an svn delete of the tag and just do it again.
18:09:29AlexPFrom reading that I think you can just rename them - svn mv xxx yyy
18:09:41AlexPBut I'd double check with someone that knows svn
18:10:05n1sif we migrate coldfire to gcc4.4.4 do we want to keep 3.4.6 around and have configure handle building with either?
18:10:19LambdaCalculus37AlexP: Like I said earlier... shaking the rust off here. :)
18:11:00AlexPn1s: If all targets work on 4.4.4 would we need to?
18:11:23n1sAlexP: i dunno, for point releases maybe?
18:11:40AlexPah yeah, maybe until 3.8
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18:12:08AlexPsame as we still have arm in along with arm-eabi
18:13:06n1syes but arm is a bit more complicated since we have many different SoC's with different cores, also since we switched abi at the same time keeping the old toolchain was no problem
18:13:20gevaertsyes, arm cheated a bit
18:13:33n1sour coldfire targets have the same core and only 2 different chips which are very similar
18:13:59*n1s tries a toolchain build with a suffix to see if it works at all
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18:18:01LambdaCalculus37AlexP: I think that just doing svn delete on the tag release and doing it again with the version number should be okay.
18:18:33AlexPyeah, either way
18:19:03LambdaCalculus37AlexP: Here goes, then.
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18:25:14LambdaCalculus37Hmmm, svn delete doesn't seem to be doing anything. =/
18:25:26*LambdaCalculus37 can't look at it now though... gotta go back to work
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18:25:49*n1s has a feeling something went wrong with his config
18:26:59kugeln1s: we don't support the old ARM toolchain anymore I think. it could break at any time (eg I'd someone makes a static function in another section as the caller)
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18:28:04n1skugel: yes, but that transition is done now and it took weeks before all targets were using the new eabi toolchain
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18:28:39kugelthe transition would be faster and simpler on cf
18:29:19kugelI'm saying we don't need to keep the old toolchain around after the switch
18:29:32n1shopefully yes
18:29:51n1sproblem is if we want to keep the old toolchain for point releases
18:31:41kugelwhy gcc 4.4.4 btw? 4.4.5 is out
18:32:16n1syes, but wouldn't it be nicer if we used the same version?
18:32:38n1si glanced over the bugfixes in .5 and don't think they affect us
18:33:24kugelbest would be to upgrade ARM too. updating to point releases of gcc should be harmless
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18:37:40n1skugel: i have a feeling it's a bit of a hassle to update the buildclients but yeah, i don't really think sticking with 4.4.4 will make things significantly simpler so i'll try out 4.4.5 once i have this config thing working
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18:42:41LambdaCalculus37AlexP: I guess I was wrong. I managed to do svn delete and take out the mistagged tags/bootloader_gogearhdd6330 directory from SVN.
18:45:57LambdaCalculus37AlexP: Scratch that... it's still there. =/
18:46:12*LambdaCalculus37 noticed it's still sitting in SVN, so it didn't work after all
18:46:32LambdaCalculus37AlexP: I'll tackle it again later.
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18:49:08gevaertsLambdaCalculus37: did you commit the delete?
18:49:43LambdaCalculus37gevaerts: It doesn't appear to have gone through.
18:51:21LambdaCalculus37I just sent Bagder and Zagor the bootloaders for the HDD1630 and HDD6330, but when I went to do the tag, I forgot to add _v1 to each of the directory names for the tags.
18:51:42LambdaCalculus37But I mentioned them as being tagged as v1 in each of the commit messages.
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18:52:04AlexPThat doesn't help much
18:52:24AlexPbut you did svn rm ... then svn commit?
18:52:25CIA-8New commit by gevaerts (r28433): Tag properly
18:53:22CIA-8New commit by gevaerts (r28434): Tag properly
18:53:27gevaertsThere. That should do it
18:53:27LambdaCalculus37AlexP: I was trying svn delete. I'll make a mental note not to.
18:53:34LambdaCalculus37gevaerts: Thanks. :)
18:53:46gevaertsLambdaCalculus37: svn rename svn:// svn://
18:54:04LambdaCalculus37gevaerts: Noted.
18:59:33n1shmm, i wonder if givving 4.5 a try is worth it too
19:01:21bluefoxxGot my mrobe working with some fuss
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19:04:15LambdaCalculus37bluefoxx: A beast flanked by PP targets?
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19:06:27bluefoxxAnd sitting on top of an h10 I lack a drive/cable for
19:06:47LambdaCalculus37bluefoxx: Is that a v1 or v2 Sansa?
19:06:56bluefoxx(Surrounded in a sea of spare parts from old cheapies and my other old e200)
19:07:05bluefoxxV1, e280
19:07:27bluefoxx1st generation even, has the earlier scrollwheel and nicer backing
19:07:55bluefoxxWith luck, I'll have a v1 e260 and a v2 e260 in the near future too
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19:11:31*bluefoxx ponders musings of recycling the SOC from his dead e200 to design his own rockbox-based DAP around, using parts from a few other mp3 players that have met some kind of issue resulting in their ends
19:13:18SaitoI would just like to thank you'all for working on rockbox and working on getting it to work on the iAudio7 <3
19:14:31LambdaCalculus37Saito: You are aware that the iAudio 7 port is far from complete, right?
19:15:06SaitoI know :) I'm not using it yet just cheering you on! :)
19:15:28bluefoxxNobody in here would happen to know of a way to replace the drive in an iriver h10 with a CF card, would they?
19:15:32gevaertsSomehow we know you're not using it yet!
19:15:47SaitoI haven't even tried :P
19:15:53LambdaCalculus37Saito: There was only one developer that was really working on it, and he hasn't been around for quite some time.
19:16:04Saitommm too bad
19:16:11LambdaCalculus37bluefoxx: H10 5/6GB or 20GB?
19:16:35bluefoxxDammed thing used an ST1 drive with the flat-flex connector, and I've utterly failed to find a replacement that wasn't another ST1 drive.
19:16:51bluefoxxI'm also lacking a cable, but that comes after getting the thing together
19:17:01LambdaCalculus37bluefoxx: Unless you can find some kind of converter, I don't think you can easily replace the drive with a CF card.
19:17:22bluefoxxLambdaCalculus37: Well, a converter is the general idea, but again, failed to find such a thing
19:17:35LambdaCalculus37bluefoxx: I wanted to do the same with my m:robe 100, but I know that won't be happening any time soon.
19:18:04LambdaCalculus37Saito: If you want to continue the port, feel free to.
19:18:07*bluefoxx has evil plans of reparing a small pile of rockboxable DAPs that he came into, loading them with good music and distributing them randomly to friends and family as presents
19:18:27SaitoI'm cheering people on because I can't :P
19:19:29Saitoits not like the official firmware on the i7 is that horrible
19:19:37LambdaCalculus37Saito: While you may have good intentions on doing so, understand that people work on ports and parts of the code that they're interested in. Usually, ports are done by people that own the hardware.
19:19:39SaitoI just think rockbox could greatly improve it.
19:19:54saratogai don't think rockbox is ever going to work on the i7
19:20:38bluefoxxFailing an ability to find a cable/drive for the h10, the most likely thing to happen to it will be breaking it down to individual components for salvage and reuse in other projects. Better than throwing it out, but I'd rather not destroy something that potentially works just fine with a little TLC
19:21:06bluefoxxLambdaCalculus37: I presume that the microdrive in your mrobe suffered an unfortunate end?
19:21:27LambdaCalculus37bluefoxx: No, mine works fine. I just want to switch it to something solid-state is all.
19:21:39SaitoWell it's a improvement over a few months back when no one was working on it :)
19:21:53bluefoxxYeah, can't blame you for that
19:22:28bluefoxxReminds me, did I not see whisperings someplace relating to activity with the Sansa View?
19:23:40LambdaCalculus37bluefoxx: That port hasn't been touched for a very long time, either. And IIRC only a small bit of work was done on it.
19:24:34bluefoxxShame, a 32GB view with a 32GB microSDHC card would be _very_ nice combined with rockbox
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19:26:20SaitoThere should be a big "last updated" within the first few lines of the project pages :P
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19:58:42CIA-8New commit by bertrik (r28435): Another (hopefully final) fix for FS #11453 (AMSv2 powerdown fails sometimes when wakeup timer set) by Fabian Vogel. ...
20:00:34CIA-8r28435 build result: All green
20:01:33n1swell, a build made with gcc4.4.4 works fine on my h300
20:03:15n1snot really a surprise as i have done it before and all issues that came up have been fixed
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20:21:59kugeln1s: I doubt it
20:23:27n1skugel: ?
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20:24:25kugelthat it's worth trying gcc4.5
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20:25:26n1s4.4 annoyinly makes some codecs faster and some don't change but only vorbis gets significantly slower for some reason
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20:32:08TheSevenS_a_i_n_t: i bet you know the keyclick patch fs# by heart :)
20:32:59*LambdaCalculus37 hopes to see the bootloaders for the GoGear HDD1630 and HDD6330 available soon :)
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20:35:59Buscheln1s: thanks for the speed test, sounds promising −− maybe I should add another #elif-path to the asm.
20:36:44Buscheln1s: and thanks for the hint in fs#11710, just compiling a sim with get_code_from_buffer()
20:36:54TheSevenS_a_i_n_t: I just uploaded a resynced patch at
20:38:02confuselingHi again. Can anyone tell me which function is called when I go to Settings -> Manage Settings -> Browse .cfg Files? Is there a specific configuration loader function, or does it just load the file browser?
20:38:29confuselingCan't figure it out from the source (more my fault than the source's, no doubt...)
20:39:44TheSevenit's calling the file browser functions in a special way, just like the plugin menu or whatever does. i don't know the details though
20:40:13LambdaCalculus37TheSeven: I can give FS #5111 a test on my iPod video if you'd like.
20:40:14confuselingThanks. Do you know roughly which file I should be looking in to find the call?
20:40:37TheSevenLambdaCalculus37: It seems to be broken on PP since ages
20:40:42TheSevenno idea why...
20:40:55LambdaCalculus37TheSeven: So nano2g only for now?
20:41:07TheSevenIIUC that's the only currently working one
20:41:44TheSevenhowever it used to work on PP some time ago, and it would be nice if someone could have a look why it isn't any more
20:41:47LambdaCalculus37TheSeven: Does it build green on other iPods or does it cause errors?
20:42:00TheSevenIIRC it's green but just plain doesn't work
20:42:09TheSeveni.e. doesn't do anything when it should click
20:42:23*LambdaCalculus37 wonders if it's worth committing just to get piezo only on one iPod model
20:42:51TheSeventhere were also some other issues with it, someone didn't like the way the configuration options are placed in the menu
20:43:00LambdaCalculus37TheSeven: dreamlayers knows the PP iPods quite well, but he hasn't been around lately.
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20:44:44LambdaCalculus37TheSeven: I could send him a message and ask him if maybe he would like to take a stab at fixing the patch.
20:45:41*TheSeven would have thought that PP ipods are popular enough to have several people who could fix this
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20:59:51confuselingCan anyone perhaps tell me the name of the function which opens the file browser, so I can ack-grep for it? Sorry... Bit lost here :)
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21:08:15slaterhello everybody. I managed to be able to run custom scripts on my modified original firmware for my samsung yp-r0
21:08:41slateris there a way i could test run rockbox with a custom script?
21:08:53slateror start a rockbox bootloader with a script?
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21:14:06wodzslater: If you have possibility to dlopen() code than maybe yes. But I doubt you can dlopen() from script
21:14:31slateri dont think you can do this in sh :(
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21:25:58Buscheln1s, AlexP: can you check whether this patch fices FS #11710 for you? ->
21:26:22*Buschel hates this "new" bitstream handling in mpc
21:29:59saratogaslater: do you have enough permissions to overwrite the linux kernel in memory? if so I would say use your script to directly jump into a rockbox bootloader
21:30:30n1sBuschel: fixes the sim crash here
21:30:33slateri have full root permission
21:30:46Buscheln1s: same for me
21:30:58BuschelAlexP: can you also gice it a try?
21:31:25AlexPyep, one mo
21:31:52slatersaratonga: this is the full filesystem of the player
21:32:07slatermaybe you find the bootloader I am looking and looking dont find it yet
21:32:23saratogaslater: then zero the devices RAM and branch into your own code
21:32:48slaterhow would I do that? i am not following you
21:33:57AlexPBuschel: Incidently, if it does this looks like an ideal 3.7 backport :)
21:34:09Buschelyes, it does :)
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21:35:41Buschelit's a pitty this was found so late...
21:36:30saratogaslater: if you've got control of the system, you're ready to port rockbox, so start with something easy (maybe a driver that blinks a light) and then stick it at the start of RAM and branch to it from your script
21:36:32robin0800Can You use Viewports in alternating sub lines?
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21:38:26AlexPBuschel: yep, it's fixed
21:38:29AlexPon H140
21:38:55Buschelok, checking out v3_7 now
21:38:56slatersaratonga: ok so I should try to use the orignal firmware and try some of the drivers with my script right?
21:39:32saratogaslater: to be clear, I mean drivers that you have written for rockbox
21:39:58wodzsaratoga: the point is it is not possible to jump into arbitrary memory location from sh script. But it is trivial to prepare simple program which loads something into ram and do the jump of course.
21:40:29slaternow i got you guys
21:40:38saratogawodz: yeah thats what I was thinking
21:40:41slaterok that'll be my next step
21:40:51slaterthanks for the heads up
21:40:55saratogaor even have the build process make whatever binary (elf?) the system is expecting
21:41:57slater sorry ;)
21:42:12saratoga"/sys/bus/i2c/drivers/AS3543 I2C:"
21:42:24slateryap :)
21:43:08slater64 mb anything I should consider about ram size?
21:43:11wodzMX37 - quite powerful
21:43:19CIA-8New commit by Buschel (r28437): Fix FS #11710. On Coldfire CPU's mpc uses a speed optimization which was not correctly re-initialized when rebuffering.
21:43:24slateryes indeed hardware video decoding too
21:45:01CIA-8r28437 build result: All green
21:45:26wodzpixelma: ping
21:45:59slaterdo we have a driver for Si4709 fm transmitter? i didnt find it yet
21:46:23n1swe have one for 4700/1/2
21:46:49slaterdang, think its possible to reuse the .so if same kernel is used?
21:47:04n1si.Mx37 looks similar to i.Mx31 used in the beast
21:47:34n1soh transmitter, no we don't have any drivers for transmitters
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21:48:19slater2.6.24-445-g48ec830 thats the kernel I have a .so for I could extract these from the system
21:48:33slaterbut would need help to reuse them if even possible
21:48:45saratogacan't you just pull the files off the device somehow?
21:48:58slaterI can pull all of the drivers
21:49:32slaterbut I think you need to run the exact same kernel for them to work don't you?
21:49:35n1swhat do you mean by "reuse them"
21:50:15slaterthe original firmware is already based on linux kernel 2.6.24-445-g48ec830 . I have modified the original firmware to run scripts on the player
21:50:34slaterso I can run a script to copy all the files to 8gb nand
21:50:56slaterso I could theoretically pull all the drivers from the original firmware
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21:51:22n1srockbox cannot use linux drivers
21:51:38slaterwell its actually arm sorry
21:51:47TheSevengevaerts: I'm wondering if usb_handle_transfer_complete should be passed the endpoint number with out without bit 7 set for IN endpoints
21:51:53saratogawe know that arm11 CPU is arm ;)
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21:52:39slatersaratonga: so it could be possible to pull drivers and use them for rockbox?
21:52:41TheSevenif it's meant to pass ith with that bit, what is the direction argument good for?
21:52:46saratogano of course not
21:52:48n1sslater: no
21:53:29bertrika good datasheet is more help than a binary linux driver
21:53:30slatern1s: ok thats what I wanted to know :)
21:53:36saratogai don't really understand that dump you posted, but it looks like theres various files that contain a lot of the drivers for the system, if you can pull those off you can disassemble them and use them as a guide to write your own
21:53:46TheSevenif it's not meant to be passed it with that bit, you can't just compare the endpoint numbers to the endpoint numbers returned by the endpoint allocator
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21:54:20n1sslater: have samsung released the source for their linux system used on the player?
21:54:24slaterwhich disassembler do you guys use?
21:54:53gevaertsTheSeven: right. Maybe
21:55:14gevaertsI'm not awake enough to think this through properly right now though
21:55:25slatern1s: well kind of. not all of it. most is precompiled but I think most of the drivers could be source
21:55:57slateri just check looks like most is source on the driver side
21:56:10saratogado you have a link?
21:56:12n1sthen looking at the source is probably easier than a disassembly
21:57:19slaterpunch in the search bar : yp-r0
21:57:24slaterdownload source code
21:57:41slaterand untar YP-R1_YP-R0_KERNEL.tar.bz2
21:57:54wodzdepends how code is obscufated
21:57:55slaterinside the download archive
21:58:04CIA-8New commit by Buschel (r28438): Fix FS #11710. On Coldfire CPU's mpc uses a speed optimization which was not correctly re-initialized when re-buffering.
21:58:17saratogathis would be a great thing to put on the wiki if its not already there
21:58:28slaterok will do that
21:58:29bertrikthe si4708/9 looks very similar to the si4700/02 for which we already have a driver
21:58:51slaterthank you bertrik I'll keep that in mind!
22:01:17pixelmawodz: pong
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22:02:25wodzpixelma: does "View I/O ports" in debug menu uses MENU as cancell on your ondio?
22:02:51kugelBuschel: is FS #11710 in 3.7?
22:03:13Buschelyes. just submitted the fix the v3.7 branch
22:03:38kugeloh didn't notice, sorry
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22:05:30pixelmawodz: yes (well "Mode") it's possible that it is called "Menu" in the code though. I would have to look that up
22:06:29pixelmait is
22:08:00slatersorry for the stupid question whats the usb switching ic for?
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22:12:36kugelJdGordon: cancel in the keyboard widget doesn't actually cancel
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22:14:18Buschelwhere is ARM_ARCH defined?
22:14:50kugelgrep says config-h
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22:16:38kugelr28429 should be backported as well imo
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22:17:18kugelor perhaps we put that on some kind of to-backport list, to consider it if/when the point release is due
22:17:43wodzpixelma: is there some fundamental reason it isn't just ACTION_STD_CANCEL (BUTTON_LEFT)?
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22:19:27AlexPsomeone should also correct the spelling in r28429
22:20:01pixelmawodz: I'd guess to get some info about left button presses but I don't know these details for sure (also the debug menu was made special on purpose AFAIK)
22:20:16AlexPI'll try to tomorrow if I get a minute
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22:21:05saratogathat source dump has both build instructions, and instructions for flashing a compiled build to your player
22:21:06Buschelwhich armv4-architecture CPU's will benefit from reducing stalls after ldr/ldm?
22:21:18BuschelI am searching for the right #ifdef'ing
22:21:30saratogaBuschel: arm9 and above
22:21:50saratogaarm7 doesn't hurt, but i don't think it helps
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22:26:29Buschelsaratoga: so, arm7 = PP and PNX0101? all other ARMv4 are arm9, correct?
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22:30:58n1sBuschel: yes
22:31:16LambdaCalculus37Bagder: Ping, did you see your email?
22:31:17n1sand the only pnx0101 port is dead
22:31:32BagderLambdaCalculus37: yes I got it
22:31:41LambdaCalculus37Bagder: Awesome. :)
22:32:14n1shmm, a profile build hangs on bootup with a white screen on my h300 when using gcc 4.4.4, works fine with 3.4.6
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22:36:33Luca_SHello everybody. Does anybody know what should I edit in the sources or RB config to speed up the update of the "Next Track" indicator in the WPS? Sometimes, especially when skipping tracks, it takes a half minute to update and shows the currently playing song.
22:37:59CIA-8New commit by nls (r28439): Fix typo from r28026 causing warnings on newer gcc.
22:39:12bertrikLuca_S, I guess somewhere in buffering.c or playback.c, but no-one dares making a change in those
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22:40:07saratogamaybe it doesn't have the info yet because those tracks haven't been buffered?
22:40:10Luca_Sif the problem is slow tag loading, I'd be happy with displaying just the file name
22:40:58Luca_Showever I'm talking about fuzev2, which is flash based and shouldn't take that long. sometimes the song is even already playing...
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22:41:28saratogaah well if its playing then its obviously been buffered
22:41:51saratogabut if the next track hasn't been buffered I don't see how you could display the tags for it
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22:41:58simpleshi, anyone know what to change in source in order to have the rb filebrowser start somewhere else other than root?
22:42:01saratogaunless maybe it was in teh database already
22:42:38bertriksimples, that is configureable now
22:42:58Luca_Smaybe I can tweak cabbie to show the next track filename instead of its tags
22:43:05Luca_Sthat should be fast..
22:43:35simplesbertrik, in the current settings menu?
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22:43:59S_a_i_n_tLuca_S: That's like one of the easier changes I could imagine.
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22:44:35pixelmaJdGordon: if no other viewports are used (everything drawn into the default), you don't need to put the progressbar into one to make it update correctly, I think. Is that correct?
22:44:42Luca_SI'll study the WPS docs then :)
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22:44:56S_a_i_n_tLuca_S: what target?
22:45:08S_a_i_n_tI could do it now.
22:45:13bertriksimples, I don't know exactly where (it's probably in the manual). You can select a folder in the file browser and use the context menu (usually long press IIRC) to get the option
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22:46:00S_a_i_n_tpixelma: IIUC the progressbar needs to be in a viewport no matter what.
22:46:27S_a_i_n_tLuca_S: don't happen to know the screen size of the fuze do you ?
22:47:19Bagderbtw, if anyone wants a good thing to play with I'd suggest getting a rockbox sim checked with scan-build
22:47:26Luca_Ssomething like 220x176
22:48:03S_a_i_n_tand you just want the next track filename, not the metadata?
22:48:14S_a_i_n_tthe current is use filename if no metadata present
22:48:30Luca_Swhat happens when metadata is loading?
22:48:52S_a_i_n_tit will display the filename for a short period, then switch to the metadata IIUC
22:48:55Luca_Sdoes it show filename or waits until metadata is (not) found to show the filename?
22:49:10Luca_Sif that's the case, then something is wrong
22:49:29S_a_i_n_tOk...Hmmm, that's not something I can solve with WPS code then. :/
22:49:30Luca_Sbecause on my fuze it does not update anything,not even the filename
22:49:54Luca_Swell, if I can force the file name
22:50:05Luca_Sit could be an easy test
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22:50:30bertrikBagder, do you already have that running?
22:50:52Bagdernot for rockbox no, but I've used it elsewhere and it is really powerful
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22:51:02Luca_SI suppose the line I have to edit is %s%al%?It<%It|%Fn> ==> %s%al%Fn
22:51:12Bagderit is packaged for debian so it's quite easy to install
22:51:24S_a_i_n_tLuca_S: done
22:51:28S_a_i_n_tand, yes. ;)
22:51:52n1sBagder: is that the clang thing?
22:52:08n1sgevaerts: ran that a few weeks ago i think
22:52:26Bagderoh, I missed that
22:52:46bertrikbah, make dep seems to make deps twice
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22:54:18n1sbertrik: yep, i noticed that a long time ago, afaiu it's a WONTFIX issue :)
22:54:55bertrikI hoped it was one of those WILLMAGICALLYFIXITSELF issues
22:56:48n1smake foo will make deps only once and then error out
22:57:01n1sor make sandwitch for that matter
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22:57:27pixelmaS_a_i_n_t: I'm quite sure about that (not a 100% which is why I asked). If it wasn't true though, then rockbox_failsafe wouldn't work correctly
22:57:50Luca_SS_a_i_n_t: I fail to see your changes in the pastebin you attached, checking against the default cabbie
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22:59:09JdGordPixelma: that is correct. It is only needed if other viewports are used (need to double check the code to be 200% sure though)
23:00:11pixelmaI checked the failsafe wps in apps/gui/wps.c . It doesn't have viewport definition and I checked that it works, should be good enough
23:00:15Luca_Sactually, I can't find any reference to the Ix, Dx, Fx tags in cabbiev2.wps o_O (found these tags in the CustomWPSwiki page)
23:00:30pixelmaJdGordon: together with your opinion. Thanks
23:01:05Luca_Sahhhr... just readthe line about the uppercase version of the tags
23:02:15S_a_i_n_tLuca_S: In the first pastbin I forgot the "No AA" viewport....this fixes that. Changes are on lines 66 and 75 (commented so you can see them)
23:02:59wodzBagder: I played with scan-build and rb yesterday but I can't remember if this where regular builds or sims
23:03:00Luca_Sthank you S_a_i_n_t
23:03:06Luca_Stesting now :)
23:03:08S_a_i_n_tNo worries Luca_S
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23:03:52S_a_i_n_tYou should speak to JdGord / JdGordon about the update issues though...that definitely sounds wrong.
23:04:15S_a_i_n_tEspecially as it is visible in CabbieV2 and not some user-made theme.
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23:04:58Luca_Snope, I can reprodce the problem even with filename only
23:05:18S_a_i_n_tLuca_S: What happens with just filename?
23:06:26Luca_Sif I skip three, four songs, the next track indicator shows the currently playing song and stays like that even ten seconds later, when backlight goes off. when I move the wheel to turn on backlight again, the display is updated with the correct next track
23:07:46S_a_i_n_tHmmmm...that is quite odd. But it is an update issue that has been seen before on other screens. (popped up on the RM screen originally IIRC)
23:08:26S_a_i_n_twhat revision are you running Luca_S?
23:08:36LambdaCalculus37Hmmm, looks like setting the GoGear HDD6330 buffer to 64MB causes playback to crash.
23:08:40S_a_i_n_tsorry ;)
23:08:50LambdaCalculus37I'm going to set it back to 32MB for now.
23:09:21Luca_Sr28360M-101025 (applied the USB patch by pamaury)
23:10:58S_a_i_n_tCould you please try 28439 (current SVN) and see if the problem persists?
23:11:58CIA-8New commit by rmenes (r28440): Set the GoGear HDD6330 back to 32MB RAM again; 64MB causes ...
23:12:25Luca_Ssure. updating now
23:13:03Luca_S(now... well.. as soon as the OF refreshes its db)
23:13:46CIA-8r28440 build result: All green
23:13:56Buschelsaratoga: did you solve your noise issue with your patch?
23:15:41Luca_SS_a_i_n_t: reproducible with current SVN.
23:17:16S_a_i_n_tLuca_S: Ok, my only suggestion now is to add an entry on Flyspray describing the problem in as much detail as you can (but in a concise manor ;)).
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23:18:24Luca_Sthanks for your time S_a_i_n_t. I'll do it tomorrow. see you!
23:18:40 Quit Luca_S (Quit: CGI:IRC)
23:18:55S_a_i_n_tNow worries Luca_s. o/
23:19:39saratogaBuschel: sorry been a little busy this afternoon
23:19:46saratogaoverflow seems quite possible though
23:19:50LambdaCalculus37Yay, now I have working playback on the HDD6330 again. :)
23:20:59bertrikDid it get broken somehow in recent times?
23:21:52LambdaCalculus37bertrik: No, but in tools/configure it was set to build with 64MB of RAM, which is incorrect (at least on mine!)
23:22:18LambdaCalculus37I reverted it back to 32MB to be on the safe side. 64MB causes playback crashes on my HDD6330.
23:22:31Buschelsaratoga: ok, no prob. I am just curious ;)
23:23:15kugelLambdaCalculus37: perhaps they have different ram setup
23:23:22kugellike ipod videos
23:23:22S_a_i_n_tliar: Are you able to repost the link to the LCD Sleep v4b patch please?
23:23:30S_a_i_n_tOr put it on the tracker.
23:23:54kugelif yes, I suspect the trick used on them would also work on the philips hdds
23:24:09LambdaCalculus37kugel: Quite possible. b0hoon was the one who set tools/configure to give it 64MB RAM.
23:24:24LambdaCalculus37His may have 64MB RAM, but I have one that has 32MB.
23:24:27kugelI'm sure he had da strong reason for it :)
23:24:50saratogaBuschel: yes I am quite eager to see how much of a difference this makes
23:25:37LambdaCalculus37kugel: b0hoon has an HDD6320 IIRC. Perhaps those models are the ones that have 64MB of RAM, and HDD6330s have only 32MB?
23:26:42bertrikIf you open it and take pictures of the RAM chips, you could tell for sure
23:26:55kugelLambdaCalculus37: r27960 implemented the 32MB/64MB-unified build trick for the ipod videos, you could try it on your player
23:27:50saratogaBuschel: a quick shift by 6 didn't change the result, so its probably a bug in my asm code
23:27:51kugelr27937 is also important (for probing the ram size) r27937
23:29:40Buschelsaratoga: ok. nevertheless your asm code looked fine from what I could see so far... nothing else changed against the v02-patch?
23:29:58saratogai don't think so
23:30:14saratogai'll try and find time to look at it more carefully
23:30:39LambdaCalculus37kugel: I can give it a try. I'll also talk to b0hoon.
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23:33:29pixelmaAlexP: no time / chance to fix the typo in 28249 (and I guess you are referring to "ohter")?
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23:35:00pixelmahuh, it looks like there could be a problem with the columns too, but hard to tell by just looking at the diff
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23:36:27wodzFS should give option to report bugs agains 3.7 :-)
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23:37:06pixelmamaybe not, but the order of the '&'s is weird and could break if someone fills in a remote button mapping
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23:39:59wodzplease look at FS #11712
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23:45:16dutchiehi, having a little trouble with my ipod nano 2g. having not used it for a long time, i just went to use it again, and I can only get a white screen with a flickery line across it. i tried holding menu+select, reinstalling rockbox (both stable and current build), but I can't get rid of it. it's definitely fully charged. any ideas?
23:46:14S_a_i_n_tCan you boot the Apple firmware?
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23:46:46n1ssomething's fishy the hang goes away if i comment out the call to profile_thread_stopped in switch thread, but remains even if i comment out all the contents of that function, hmm
23:47:12kugelwodz: from a quick glance, you shouldn't be calling get_action() from firmware
23:47:37kugelalso perhaps the patch would be easier too look over if the s/__dbg_ports/dbg_ports/ was a separate patch
23:48:03n1sfrigging nullpointer crap
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23:49:08wodzkugel: regarding get_action() this is only refactoring - I didn't changed functions. This is how it is now in svn
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23:49:17S_a_i_n_tdutchie: Can you boot the Apple firmware?
23:49:28S_a_i_n_tIf so, does it have the same screen issues?
23:49:29dutchieno, can't boot anything
23:49:39dutchiewell, it might be booting the apple firmware
23:49:51kugelwodz: right, but the refactoring shouldn't break the no apps-calls-from-firmware rule
23:50:09S_a_i_n_tdutchie: Sounds like a hardware problem.
23:50:19dutchiethought you might say that :(
23:50:19S_a_i_n_tIf it is, there's nothing that can be done.
23:50:20wodzkugel: I see your point
23:51:10S_a_i_n_tdutchie: RBUtil now supports the Nano2G...try uninstalling .rockbox or just doing a restore with iTunes
23:51:23dutchiei did try with the utility thing
23:51:34dutchiemight try an itunes restore if i can be bothered to reboot into XP
23:52:08n1shmm, it still doesn't work
23:52:16n1sbut now boots...
23:52:27n1sdoes anyone understand the threading code?
23:52:30kugelwodz: I find it somewhat strange that the debug functions implement a UI in firmware anyway, maybe something cleaner should be found (but that would be a separate beast)
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23:53:07S_a_i_n_tdutchie: If that fails, I can only suggest reinstalling Rockbox, and making sure you download the voice files, and using RBUtil to generate .talk files for your audio.
23:53:16S_a_i_n_tat least then you can use it without a screen.
23:53:18dutchieah, good idea
23:53:36S_a_i_n_tI have them occasionally ;)
23:54:33wodzkugel: debug_menu.c is hack of the hack which was originally a hack :-)
23:54:48kugelhaha :)
23:55:12kugelbut that means it's still a hack with your work :)
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23:55:38n1sthis makes no sense, if the pointer was null, the next deref should break just as well
23:56:00wodzkugel: but you are right - functions implemented in firmware should return some struct with info and let it be interpreted/displayed from app layer
23:56:54stacker55I just tested the new build for the Philips HDD63x0 and can confirm it works. I saw the missing bootloaders, and i can provide the one i used. I am unsure where to place the firmware, can someone help me put it somewhere ?
23:57:22wodzkugel: it is a hack but the one which introduce some small amount of order in the chaos of debug_menu.c

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