#rockbox 2010-11-05

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#rockbox log for 2010-11-05

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00:15:54	CIA-7	New commit by kugel (r28484): Adapt icon loading to get_user_file_path()
00:17:38	JdGordon\|	:( we really want to get rid of that, not add more calls
00:17:41	CIA-7	r28484 build result: All green
00:19:32	kugel	until it's done I'd like to be able to load icons
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00:21:42	kugel	JdGordon\|: what is the #else .. maloc() #endif case for in skin_buffer.c?
00:21:53	kugel	is anything actually doing it?
00:22:11	JdGordon\|	thats when it is a stand alone lib
00:22:14	JdGordon\|	i.e the theme editor
00:23:09	kugel	does it free properly?
00:23:21	JdGordon\|	yes
00:23:32	kugel	I assume so. can APPLICATION and theme editor not use the same code?
00:24:13	JdGordon\|	no, for the allocs in the parser it can but the rockbox code does a ton of other allocs which are easily to mess up if we dont keep careful track of them
00:24:39	JdGordon\|	look at the skin_buffer_alloc() calls in apps/gui/skin_neinge/skin_parser.c
00:25:08	kugel	I see
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00:25:59	JdGordon\|	so doing the list thing does suck a bit, but there isnt really a better alternative
00:26:12	JdGordon\|	and yeah, rolling the 2 mallocs into one could help a tiny bit
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00:27:01	JdGordon\|	but because so many of the allocs are under 200 bytes whatever we do is bad
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00:27:41	JdGordon\|	we could allock 4KB chunks and then just pass a pointer into that so much less mallocs but more hassle to get working
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00:28:19	b0hoon	bertrik: your new patch works (tuner detection)
00:28:48	bertrik	b0hoon, are the first four bytes in the debug menu always the same value?
00:29:24	bertrik	thanks for testing so far BTW :)
00:29:54	b0hoon	bertrik: this is the problem, no but the fourth byte has always 4 bits !=0 and that is enough :)
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00:30:32	b0hoon	bertrik: 4 youngest bits
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00:33:38	pixelma	JdGordon\|: did you do anything with the themesite VM (maybe update it)?
00:34:00	b0hoon	bertrik: it is necessary to have the tea detection for the HDD63X0 and the HDD1XX0, ifdefs are useless here, there is no way to distinguish between models
00:34:12	kugel	JdGordon: 3 things. a) IMO r28475 reall should have been two separate commits, b) the second part of r28475 doesn't work properly (when you re-enter rockbox the hw buttons don't work), c) canceling in the keyboard dialog also doesn't work (anymore? I think it worked after the initial commit)
00:35:08	JdGordon\|	can you please stop saying IMO? obviously it is your opinion...
00:35:27	kugel	why should I?
00:35:57	kugel	maybe it's obvious for you, it may not be for others
00:36:54	b0hoon	bertrik: no problem. Thank you for the patch. night.
00:37:18	kugel	anyway...I would appreciate if you could look into the 2 issues
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00:38:18	JdGordon\|	1) because everything anyone says is their opinion, 2 we don't like abbreviations and imo shouldnt be different, 3 not untill i ahe a working android build again
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00:39:13	JdGordon\|	what in 28475 should have been 2 commits?
00:40:24	kugel	a) repare dpad and b) make android handle back when in main menu
00:40:27	kugel	repair*
00:40:44	JdGordon\|	meh
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00:41:08	ChrisTheOne	hey
00:41:22	ChrisTheOne	anyone here?
00:42:11	pixelma	JdGordon\|: I take that as a "no" ;)
00:42:53	pixelma	ChrisTheOne: if you have a Rockbox question just ask
00:43:28	kugel	JdGordon: we like abbreviations that are on http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IrcTalk
00:43:45	ChrisTheOne	i got the Rockbox Utility on my PC, but it won't connect to my Sansa Clip
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00:44:21	ChrisTheOne	it says 'its not writable'
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00:45:10	pixelma	when does it say that? You start the Utility, your Sansa is connected and then...
00:47:14	ChrisTheOne	actually, i think it does connect to Rockbox Utility
00:47:16	ChrisTheOne	but then
00:48:52	pixelma	well, what are you doing exactly, was it found by "auto-detect" or is this the point where it breaks?
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00:51:14	pixelma	kugel: I wouldn't say "we like them", they are somewhat acceptable but if still not nice for people using screenreaders
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00:54:39	ChrisTheOne	hye
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00:54:45	ChrisTheOne	hmmm
00:54:57	ChrisTheOne	seems to me not everything i say gets uploaded
00:55:08	ChrisTheOne	but as i was saying some earlier
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00:55:19	ChrisTheOne	Rockbox Utility crashes
00:55:31	ChrisTheOne	when i try to use the auto-detect
00:57:31	pixelma	hmm, sounds weird. What version of the Utility and which OS are you using? Also, is your Sansa Clip in MSC mode?
00:57:33	ChrisTheOne	and i cant connect using the browse function, its not in the list
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00:57:51	martii	hey :)
00:57:52	ChrisTheOne	Vista, and the latest version of Utility
00:58:02	ChrisTheOne	MSC mode = ?
00:58:20	martii	Guys I wanted to report that lates rockbox supports well my iTrip LCD with 4G iPod 20GB
00:58:30	martii	looks like I can't edit wiki
00:58:56	bertrik	What kind of device is that?
00:59:10	pixelma	ChrisTheOne: it's a setting in the original firmware, if it is set correctly you'll get a drive letter in Windows
00:59:37	pixelma	the installation instructions in our manual should explain this
00:59:54	ChrisTheOne	it is in MSC mode now
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01:00:13	ChrisTheOne	great, it's now an 'F:'
01:00:20	martii	so who can edit wiki?
01:00:21	ChrisTheOne	it'll probably work now
01:00:23	ChrisTheOne	thanks!
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01:01:50	ChrisTheOne	it is connected now! :D
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01:03:39	pixelma	martii: everyone who's registered and given permission (you'd have to ask here but it's easily granted, it's just a measure against spam bots)
01:04:58	pixelma	ChrisTheOne: glad it's working. The utility shouldn't crash though if it only sees a player in the wrong USB mode (and ideally warn about it)
01:05:33	ChrisTheOne	yes, it did warned the first 2 times, but the 3rd time it crashed..
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01:08:09	martii	pixelma: great I read about it
01:08:27	martii	pixelma: but I don't think I'll contribute much more
01:08:35	martii	pixelma: just one report that's all
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01:09:49	pixelma	hmm, someone volunteered to accept mails from people who just wanted to contribute one time, need to ask around who it was (and maybe he isn't arount at the moment)
01:10:46	pixelma	or around
01:10:53	martii	pixelma: OK I'll come back later
01:11:01	martii	pixelma: thanks
01:11:26	ChrisTheOne	Pixelma
01:11:43	ChrisTheOne	i got to the installing the boatloader part
01:11:55	ChrisTheOne	but what file is the Sansa firmware?
01:12:15	ChrisTheOne	i read .bin, but i don't see a .bin file on it
01:13:22	ChrisTheOne	mtable.sys could be it, it's the biggest file in it...
01:13:40	pixelma	you need to download it somewhere I think but I'm not too familiar with the newer Sansas' installation instructions. The manual should explain it
01:14:41	soap	martii, if you email me all the info asked for in the wiki, I'll edit it for you. martii@cleansoap.org is a fine email address for you to use.
01:14:53	ChrisTheOne	allready got it
01:15:05	martii	soap: ok
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01:15:28	ChrisTheOne	i accidentaly deleted it earlier :P
01:15:37	martii	soap: this is entry about Griffin iTrip LCD
01:16:02	soap	ok. email me all details and that would be great. I gotta run.
01:16:10	martii	soap: will do - thanks
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01:25:09	ChrisTheOne	@pixelma: is it possible to play all the files instead of just 1 album?
01:25:30	ChrisTheOne	if i look into 'music' then it says i dont have anything there
01:25:54	ChrisTheOne	cuz i got everything in albums
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01:27:52	ChrisTheOne	pixelma?
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01:31:48	ChrisTheOne	pixelma?
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01:45:25	Atlanx	Hello
01:45:52	Atlanx	I want to upload an FM-Radio Preset to the Rockbox-Wiki. How can i do it?
01:46:58	Atlanx	It looks like i have to register me in the Wiki and then put it there at an Attachement. Is this right way of doing it?
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01:47:58	Atlanx	Your personal Foswiki topic MarkusStadler has been created
01:48:08	Atlanx	Please note that you cannot edit any pages yet. Not even your personal page. You need to ask (in IRC preferrably)
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01:57:36	moos	Hello Atlanx, you indeed canot edit wiki page without asking for permission before. To edit a Wiki page you have to be listed in our Wiki Users Group
01:57:51	moos	let me few seconds and I'll add you
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02:00:02	Atlanx	thanks
02:01:38	moos	Done !
02:01:59	moos	You can edit wiki pages now
02:05:11	Atlanx	Ok, thanks. I will try uploading my Preset now.
02:05:51	moos	You are welcome.
02:20:23	alexbobP	I had to exchange a broken sansa fuze, and all best buy had left was the fuze + :(
02:21:18	alexbobP	so I figured I'd give it a try... predictably, it's utter crap
02:21:34	alexbobP	apparently whoever designed it was so stoned they forgot to even put in a "hold" switch, so you can't even put the thing in your pocket
02:22:01	alexbobP	and it has pointless touch-sensitive buttons for some reason, so it's a pain to use...
02:22:13	alexbobP	and worst of all, even crappier OF than before and no rockbox! D:
02:25:28	Atlanx	Ok, have added FM-Preset Germany: Landshut_Niederbayern to the wiki ( http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/FmPresetsEurope )
02:25:31	Atlanx	thx for help
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02:28:59	moos	No problem, and thanks to you too
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03:25:55	Atlanx	good night by by
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07:53:39	drama	Anyone know I can install Rockbox on my iPod 5G Using a Macbook Pro?
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09:06:52	bertrik	amiconn, do you think the extra binsize for the new tea5767 detection is too much?
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09:13:40	Stummi	could a developler kindly apply my rockboy-patch to svn, please?
09:15:58	Stummi	*developer
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09:22:30	wodz	pixelma, AlexP: The caption for the screenshot of the fractals plugin is wrong in manual.
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09:32:40	TheSeven\|Mobile	audio dma / clock scaling improvements?
09:33:35	TheSeven\|Mobile	does rockbox buffering provide the neccessary infrastructure for double-buffered dma?
09:33:37	Stummi	TheSeven\|Mobile, i have an patch for rockboy which i want applied to svn :)
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09:34:00	Stummi	just if you don't know what to do g
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09:40:05	TheSeven\|Mobile	was that improved crossfeed patch ever applied?
09:40:38	TheSeven\|Mobile	i just played around with crossfeed on my ride to work, and it doesn't seem to work quite right
09:42:59	Stummi	erm no. I mean this: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11632
09:44:14	Stummi	oh sry, misreaded this. You didn't meant me :)
09:49:24	wodz	Stummi: maybe you will know - why there is condition in apps/plugins/SOURCES: #if PLUGIN_BUFFER_SIZE <= 0x20000 && defined(HAVE_LCD_BITMAP) for building rockboy, zxbox, chessbox goban and pictureflow
09:49:32	wodz	it looks weird to me
09:50:02	wodz	why we build this when buffer is small?
09:50:07	pixelma	those are plugins that need the overlay loader
09:50:33	Stummi	no, i don't know this
09:50:35	bertrik	TheSeven\|Mobile, I worked on crossfeed but haven't applied anything yet
09:51:26	bertrik	The adjustable delay for crossfeed is nice and has a big subjective effect, but it requires changes to ASM for various targets that I'm not familiar with
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09:51:49	wodz	pixelma: In this case I think there is a bug - iriver h100 has PLUGIN_BUFFER_SIZE 0x80000 which will mean this plugins will not be build
09:51:57	pixelma	wodz: and only this loader is handled in SOURCES, for the big mem targets inclusion of these plugins is handled in SUBDIRS (maybe the actual plugin in generel, don't know)
09:51:58	bertrik	The currently used delay of 300 microseconds turns out to be actually a good choice anyway
09:52:33	wodz	pixelma: ok I'll look
09:52:37	Stummi	pixelma, i think wodz wanted to point to the thing, that this should be "=>" instance of "<="
09:52:45	pixelma	no
09:52:54	Stummi	ok
09:53:14	pixelma	only the low mem targets need the special loader
09:53:33	wodz	Ok, now I see but this deserves comment at least
09:54:09	wodz	pixelma: have you seen my post about caption for fractals screenshot in manual?
09:55:05	pixelma	yes, haven't looked at the code yet
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10:03:08	pixelma	it's not completely wrong ;) but outdated. While the plugin was extended and renamed to possibly support others it still only supports the Mandelbrot set if I haven't missed anything
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10:03:51	wodz	yes but the caption is confusing a bit
10:04:07	wodz	other captions refer to plugin name
10:04:19	pixelma	should be an easy fix
10:04:38	wodz	this manual preparation drive me crazy :/
10:05:19	pixelma	I think you can commit it in smaller chunks
10:06:30	pixelma	like an initial commit with the platform files, then installation instructions, then screenshots, then buttontables (they don't need to happen all at once)
10:06:55	wodz	yeh this is good idea probably
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10:15:30	pixelma	wodz: there is a small comment in plugins/SOURCES right above, it's a bit simple and probably needs you to investigate further a bit if you aren't familiar with it yet: /* Overlays loaders */
10:16:08	pixelma	small typo in there maybe
10:17:48	wodz	pixelma: but SOURCE usually shows what will be compiled so this should state something like 'for targets with larger plugin buffer look at SUBDIRS' IMO
10:18:24	wodz	it's not big deal but I found this confusing when looking why rockboy is not compiled for hd200
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10:19:42	pixelma	as far as I know SUBDIRS handles all plugins that are in well subdirs, SOURCES only the single file one so I think you are expected to look into both (or the "correct" one)
10:23:48	pixelma	hmm, maybe the confusion comes from the fact that the overlay loader source files are called exactly like the plugin's - so you have two "rockboy.c", one in the plugin directory (which is the loader) and one in a "rockboy" subdirectory
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10:52:32	notlistening	Hi, all I know there is a pitch function in rockbox but is there a rate function to increase speed of the playback of a track?
10:52:59	bertrik	yes I think so
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10:59:06	notlistening	where is it hidden?
10:59:30	notlistening	or was that not a reply to me bertrik
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11:00:30	PurlingNayuki	I must Patch every files one by one... Is there any convenient way?
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11:01:28	bertrik	notlistening, it's in the pitch screen, this screen has several modes (pitch/rate/pitch+rate) that you can switch between
11:03:43	notlistening	ah right have to find those just getting used to the android version that and where to touch the screen :D
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11:08:48	rasher	Do we want a 20px artwiz-snap? - http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/9633?getfile=18089
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11:20:52	notlistening	The only difference that I can see on the pitch screen is the units that you adjust the pitch, is it possible the the touch screen screen does not allow you to adjust those settings between pitch/rate/pitch+rate
11:21:49	pixelma	notlistening: look for "timestretch" in your player's Rovkbox manual
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11:22:16	pixelma	*Rockbox
11:22:22	notlistening	ah ok I have seen that before i will go have a look
11:22:26	notlistening	sorry to be a pain
11:22:36	pixelma	what player is this?
11:23:59	notlistening	Dell Streak :P
11:24:01	notlistening	Android
11:25:52	rasher	Zagor, Bagder, LinusN: The font pack seems to not be getting updated automatically
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11:25:58	pixelma	notlistening: then check another players manual ;) As long as you can switch the modes in the pitch screen it should work
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11:26:19	pixelma	but needs to be enabled before
11:26:42	notlistening	I have just enabled it which other target is touch screen?
11:27:06	pixelma	the D2 manual is probably closest
11:27:25	notlistening	Thank pixelma
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11:32:04	notlistening	Hum right maybe a reboot in terms of Android as it runs as a service is not enough just to shutdown the app...?
11:36:10	notlistening	As i suspected it now gives me the options I wanted ;)
11:36:37	notlistening	When the manual is written might be worth mentioning that you have to restart the phone
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12:05:22	PurlingNayuki	I must Patch every files one by one... Is there any convenient way?
12:05:26	PurlingNayuki	I must Patch every files one by one... Is there any convenient way?
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12:05:27	PurlingNayuki	I must Patch every files one by one... Is there any convenient way?
12:06:27	Torne	please don't do that
12:07:01	Torne	if you mean it prompts you for each filename to tell yo uwhere it is, then you are using the wrong value for -p in patch
12:07:10	Torne	try -p0 if you are using -p1 or vice versa
12:07:22	PurlingNayuki	I'm sorry. I don't want to either, but my network connection has some thing wrong.
12:07:35	Torne	http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/WorkingWithPatches <- see here
12:07:50	PurlingNayuki	I'm using -p0. But how if the file are in different folders?
12:08:10	Torne	patch uses the path name..
12:08:26	Torne	run it from the root directory of the source.
12:08:29	gevaerts	which reminds me...
12:08:49	Torne	if that doesn't work then you are using the wrong -p, most likelu
12:09:01	gevaerts	Zagor: would it be hard to tell flyspray to use diffstat with -p0?
12:09:02	Torne	patches generated by some tools generally need -p1, other tools -p0, unfortunately
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12:10:12	PurlingNayuki	All of my patches are created by svn under Ubuntu. How about the patches on Rockbox site?
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12:11:32	Torne	svn, or bzr, or git, or diff :)
12:11:39	Torne	depending on the preference of the author
12:13:53	Stummi	PurlingNayuki, i create my patches by using "svn diff" from the svn-root
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12:16:52	Stummi	some users creating patch with a normal diff and comparing the orginal-sorce-tree and theirs. The first you have to apply with "patch -p0", the secound type with -p1
12:17:01	Stummi	s/patch/patches/
12:17:25	Torne	Stummi: some version control systems other than svn specifically add a dummy directory to the front of the paths so that the paatch works iwth -p1 to be consistent with diff
12:17:30	Torne	:)
12:17:39	Torne	so.. yeah. you just have to be able to use both :)
12:18:46	Stummi	apropos patch. I still want my rockboy-patch applied to svn. If a developer could kindly... :)
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12:21:14	AlexP	Stummi: You've discovered the flaw in our plan - we always tell people to go and produce the patches, then when people call our bluff... :)
12:21:42	dfkt	bertrik, did you create a new page for the meier crossfeed on the tracker already?
12:22:15	Stummi	lol :D
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12:39:11	n1s	hmm, my fuze only mounts over usb if i connect while it's off
12:39:38	Torne	Stummi: i'll test it at the weekend if i remember ;)
12:39:59	n1s	otherwise it pretends the usb connection is a charger after initially displaying the usb plug screen for a second or two
12:46:10	pixelma	n1s: the automatic reboot to the OF has been disabled because it caused a serious freeze for some people where the only way out was to fully drain the battery
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12:46:23	pixelma	on the AMS Sansas
12:46:54	n1s	pixelma: on amsv1 we have well working usb in rockbox
12:46:56	pixelma	you could test pamaury's Rockbox USB patch for it though
12:47:03	pixelma	we do?
12:47:13	n1s	that problem is only for amsv2 afaiu
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12:50:27	n1s	yes, the rockbox usb works nicely but for me it doesn't connect when plugged in while rockbox is running for some reason
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12:56:09	Stummi	Torne, would be great. thanks
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12:59:33	Songs_0f_Failure	hi to all!
12:59:33	Songs_0f_Failure	i have some problems with Cue Support on my Sansa Clip+
12:59:33	Songs_0f_Failure	i get "Codec Failure" message -_-'
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13:02:01	soap	and you don't get a Codec Failure message when not using cue sheets?
13:02:46	Songs_0f_Failure	yep)
13:02:53	Songs_0f_Failure	description - http://anythingbutipod.com/forum/showpost.php?p=511438&postcount=1095
13:03:38	Songs_0f_Failure	by the way
13:03:38	Songs_0f_Failure	Second problem with rockbox.org -
13:03:38	Songs_0f_Failure	Where i can get latest Fonts ? (Fonts Pack not updating ? Is it a "bug" ?)
13:03:38	DBUG	Enqueued KICK Songs_0f_Failure
13:03:38	Songs_0f_Failure	http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/RockboxExtras
13:03:38	Songs_0f_Failure	If you open rockbox-fonts.zip then you'll see in Date Modified column '24.09.2009' -_-
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13:03:39	Songs_0f_Failure	Sizes of fonts different too. I compared it with with latest rb-builds.
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13:06:52	mc2739	Songs_0f_Failure: the 3.7 release fonts pack is here: http://download.rockbox.org/release/3.7/rockbox-fonts-3.7.zip
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13:21:30	Songs_0f_Failure	d'oh. big thanks, mc2739!
13:21:30	Songs_0f_Failure	Font-pack updating only with new Realese ?
13:21:30	Songs_0f_Failure	I thought it builds like Rockbox Builds after every changes.
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13:25:06	mc2739	it used to build with the daily builds, but that appears to be broken now
13:25:29	Stummi	teru, the commont for my patch is from you, i am right?
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13:25:51	teru	Stummi: yes.
13:27:27	Stummi	teru, i just tried with 100 savegames. It stucks for a few seconds, when i go to load/save-menu, but it does not crashes (sansa fuze v2).. would it suffice to limit the max slot count to 100?
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13:31:30	Songs_0f_Failure	I hope Fonts-pack updating will be fixed
13:33:44	Songs_0f_Failure	what about Codec Failure & Flac & Cue Support ?
13:33:46	teru	Stummi: did you also try to load/save the data? from my experience, 2000 bytes is bit too many for stack. but i don't actually know where is border.
13:34:24	Stummi	teru, does this not depends on the device?
13:34:34	n1s	teru: the main stack is usually 8k
13:34:50	n1s	nano2g has a bigger stack i think
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13:36:21	Stummi	teru, hm, you are right. It seems to freeze when i try to load something
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13:44:38	bertrik	silly question, which number most closely resembles the the value 1 when used with FRACMUL?
13:45:03	bertrik	is it 0xffff.ffff or 0x7fff.ffff ?
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13:50:25	wodz	I just found news about rockbox 3.7 on polish site devoted to Open Source - http://osnews.pl/rockbox-3-7-wydany/ . The comments below the news are VERY positive.
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13:51:14	n1s	bertrik: not enough background, what is FRACMUL in this context?
13:51:33	bertrik	a multiplication macro in dsp.h
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13:53:31	n1s	bertrik: they are signed so ffffffffff would be ~-1
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13:54:01	n1s	uh. no
13:54:48	n1s	it would be ~ -0
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13:55:23	n1s	80000000 is about -1
13:55:34	n1s	and 7fffffff is about 1
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13:57:20	bertrik	thanks for confirming, I think my crossfeed filter is then off by a factor of two :(
13:57:50	bertrik	I'll do some white noise measurements again
13:58:27	Stummi	is there an easy way to make something like "make fullinstall" in a simdisk-directory, but not with copying the files but symlinking?
13:58:39	Stummi	especialy the .rock-files
13:58:56	n1s	Stummi: no
13:59:25	Stummi	with a special reason or just because noobody needed this to yet? :)
13:59:49	n1s	noone has made the install script do that
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14:00:04	Stummi	ok
14:00:24	Stummi	i am not very fit with makefiles but maybe i can find out how to do that.
14:00:36	Stummi	It would be nice for continous developing
14:01:04	Stummi	just type "make && ./rockboxui" a new time after changing a file
14:01:43	n1s	it calls buildzip that makes a zip of the files that is then extracted to the simdisk dir so maybe start making it do a straight copy which should be much faster
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14:04:49	teru	when i test particular plugin on simulator, i often run sometihng like "var=/path/to/rock && make $ver && cp $ver simdisk/... && ./rockboxui"
14:04:53	n1s	hmm, now only the sd card mounted, not the internal storage
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14:09:02	mcuelenaere	wodz: add it to the ArticlesAboutRockbox wiki page
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14:18:57	AlexP	wodz: For the manual you're adding, I'd do it in bits - as long as it doesn't break existing ones it doesn't matter if it doesn't work straight away
14:19:08	AlexP	After all, it doesn't work now :)
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14:26:11	wodz	AlexP: You mean workflow or svn commits?
14:26:47	AlexP	Either/both
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14:28:30	Stummi	teru, i uploaded a new patch with a limit to max 50 slots now
14:33:32	pixelma	teru: pong
14:34:47	teru	pixelma: i think you said something about duplicating slash in the recording screen. maybe you can test FS #11725 to see if it fixes?
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14:37:00	teru	Stummi: i'll try it later.
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14:41:40	wodz	S
14:42:03	wodz	tummi: rockboy uses greylib on grey targets right?
14:42:44	rasher	kugel: Is the 480x800 build recent? I can't seem to play anything
14:43:34	pixelma	teru: JdGordon explained to me why it happens - did you see it? I haven't looked at your patch yet but will try later
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15:03:56	qwd	I see that this bug http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5035 is fixed but when I tried to add multiple tags to an ogg file with Ex Falso I only saw the last one added. Should I add the tags in a particular way?
15:04:45	qwd	Oh wait, it's not due in any version. "Fixed" doesn't really mean fixed here does it?
15:06:31	Torne	Additional comments about closing: Closing all feature requests.
15:06:40	Torne	All feature requests got deleted.
15:06:51	Torne	so, no
15:07:04	gevaerts	Arguably we shouldn't have set them to "fixed"
15:07:19	Torne	yeah probably not
15:08:31	wodz	Torne: about your S.M.A.R.T implementation - what about CFed minis for example? CFs doesn't support smart usually
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15:10:25	Torne	wodz: well then it won't report anything
15:10:30	Torne	i've not submitted it yet, anyway, been too busy
15:11:10	wodz	Torne: I meant to check first if drive support SMART
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15:13:07	Torne	well of course it checks..
15:13:34	Torne	it has to check if it's enabled as well
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15:36:51	saratoga	what are the issues involved with getting android builds into the build system?
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16:27:30	ChrisTheOne	anyone here who can help with my crashing Rockbox on my Sansa Clip?
16:27:37	mcuelenaere	saratoga: looks like the we're able to build debug-signed apk's from the makefiles, so I guess only some (minor) modifications are needed to the build system (something like make zip && make apk)
16:27:46	mcuelenaere	s/the//
16:27:58	ChrisTheOne	i got an panic audio reset_buffer
16:28:06	ChrisTheOne	when it boots
16:28:10	mcuelenaere	(keep in mind I'm not up2date on current Rockbox work)
16:30:08	ChrisTheOne	anyone?
16:33:31	bertrik	ChrisTheOne, possibly some old buggy rockbox version (which are you running now?) or maybe file system corruption
16:34:01	ChrisTheOne	3.7, so not so old buggy :P
16:34:12	bertrik	Is it a v1 or v2 clip?
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16:34:15	ChrisTheOne	V1
16:34:42	ChrisTheOne	i got the v1.0.35 firmware from sansa
16:34:52	ChrisTheOne	it's the latest
16:35:14	bertrik	I don't know what the problem is exactly. You could back up your audio files somewhere, then reformat the player from the original firmware and put your audio files back.
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16:38:45	bertrik	and reinstall rockbox again (there's no need to install the bootloader again)
16:39:11	ChrisTheOne	dunno why, but my music is gone
16:39:14	ChrisTheOne	well
16:39:25	ChrisTheOne	i dont know where it is exactly on the player
16:40:14	ChrisTheOne	all the maps are empty..
16:40:38	saratoga	that usually means you switched USB modes
16:40:40	ChrisTheOne	normally, under Sandisk's firmware, it was under 'albums' ,
16:40:46	ChrisTheOne	yeah, its in MSC mode
16:40:59	ChrisTheOne	needed to do that for the Rockbox installation
16:41:23	bertrik	The sandisk firmware may have put them in ##MUSIC#, but that directory is only visible in rockbox
16:41:33	saratoga	i think installing the bootloader will actually put you into MTP mode, not MSC mode
16:42:03	ChrisTheOne	changed it back to MSC mode because of reinstalling Rockbox, so thats why
16:42:32	bertrik	Maybe you can get at your audio files by switching to MTP mode, copying them, then switching back to MSC mode
16:42:50	ChrisTheOne	i got it in autodetection mode and got i all back :)
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16:51:09	Alchimysta	what is the ultimate firmware released for sansa fuze?
16:51:46	alexbobP	rockbox, obviously
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16:52:54	*	LambdaCalculus37 thinks that exchange is pretty full of win :)
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17:00:48	ChrisTheOne	so... music backupped, formatted, now installing Rockbox again :)
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17:08:35	ChrisTheOne	thanks guys, rockbox is up and running again :)
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17:20:20	Alchimysta	hello
17:20:30	Alchimysta	uau its red!
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17:21:03	Alchimysta	tanto non mi capite pezzi di merda froci! hahahah xD
17:21:21	Alchimysta	tanto non mi capite pezzi di merda froci! hahahah xD
17:21:26	gevaerts	Alchimysta: stop it
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17:29:04	Alchimysta	ho bisogno di un aiuto e nessuno mi aiuta...
17:29:37	n1s	Alchimysta: english only, please. You have been told that numerous times btw.
17:31:09	Alchimysta	Someone else who speaks Italian, translator sucks and I can not explain my problems! Help me!
17:33:21	Alchimysta	Help me!
17:33:48	kugel	the sdl app seems broken
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17:34:53	kugel	it quickly allocates lots of ram, until the system is OOM
17:34:57	Luca_S	Alchimysta: I'm Italian. Ask your question in query and I'll try to help you.
17:35:28	Alchimysta	Thanks >
17:37:59	kugel	wth, r28478 also changed the allocation for the sim
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17:44:31	kugel	that needs to be undone imo
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17:58:26	rasher	kugel: quite. The sim certainly needs to act like the targets wrt memory allocation
17:58:49	rasher	Er, assuming you don't actually mean r28478
17:59:37	kugel	I don't mean the whole
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18:04:21	CIA-7	New commit by bertrik (r28493): Implement tea5767 tuner detection - FS #11714 by me
18:05:30	mcuelenaere	hmm, is the YesNoActivity supposed to crash?
18:06:15	CIA-7	r28493 build result: All green
18:10:21	kugel	mcuelenaere: yes, new feature :)
18:10:28	mcuelenaere	ah ok :)
18:10:37	mcuelenaere	kugel: same for keyboard? (when pressing no)
18:10:38	kugel	well, not the crash of course
18:10:42	mcuelenaere	oh
18:11:03	mcuelenaere	W/dalvikvm( 558): JNI WARNING: invalid null pointer (Check_ReleaseStringUTFChars)
18:11:07	mcuelenaere	for both crashes
18:11:13	kugel	it didn't crash for me last time I used it
18:11:58	kugel	pressing no doesn't actually work anyway
18:12:34	kugel	(regardless of the crash)
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18:26:44	rasher	kugel: well r28478 is a commit tot he manual from where I'm sitting
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18:27:13	kugel	I don't understandn
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18:36:07	dnivra	hello. I am trying to install rockbox on my apple iPod shuffle(1GB). I downloaded rockbox utility. could someone tell me what category does shuffle come in rockbox utility?
18:36:45	Torne	it doesn't, the shuffle is not supported
18:37:00	Torne	if it was, it would be listed on the main page and in the utility
18:37:25	dnivra	Torne, oh bummer! i thought it would be one of the 1st, 2nd or 3rd gen.
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18:44:09	kugel	ok, it didn't break the sdl app, it breaks only when a theme fails to load
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18:49:37	rasher	kugel: http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi?view=rev&revision=28478 didn't change any allocation I should hope?
18:50:30	saratoga	did anyone ever find a hardware revision number or something for the AMS players? it seems like theres a bunch of weird versions floating around
18:50:37	kugel	rasher: I mean 28480, sorry
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18:50:54	kugel	I had the previous revision in the clipboard because I pasted it to revert locally to check if it's the cause :)
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18:58:36	devrandom	I'm trying to build rockbox from source
18:58:45	devrandom	built the cross compiler
18:58:57	devrandom	no stuck at:
18:59:04	devrandom	apps/action.c:26:18: error: lang.h: No such file or directory
18:59:14	devrandom	did I forget something?
18:59:58	devrandom	tried trunk and branches/v3.7
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19:00:41	low_light	bertrik: can you add PHILIPS_HDD6330 to the define in tea5767_init too
19:01:11	bertrik	low_light, I thought the HDD6330 always had this tuner
19:01:14	saratoga	devrandom: usually that means your build got screwed up and you need to run make clean, then configure again
19:01:43	devrandom	ok, I'll try
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19:03:31	devrandom	seems to do the trick. thanks!
19:04:03	low_light	bertrik: The HDD63x0 series is defined as PHILIPS_HDD6330. The 6330 has the tuner, the 6320 does not. But they both run the same build
19:05:20	bertrik	ok, I'll add it
19:05:39	low_light	Same for the HDD16x0 series (PHILIPS_HDD1630): 1630 has tuner, 1620 does not
19:06:11	low_light	And the HDD18x0 series runs the 16x0 builds as well :)
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19:06:38	low_light	but there's not a separate port for the HDD18x0
19:06:58	LambdaCalculus37	The HDD18x0 is the same as the HDD16x0, just with an 8GB microdrive.
19:07:19	LambdaCalculus37	low_light: Although I haven't seen the HDD18x0 in the wild. :)
19:07:54	LambdaCalculus37	low_light: Do you remember if there was a UMS mode for the SA9200 like on the HDD models? I'm trying similar button combinations but keep getting the Recovery mode and the 16MB rescue drive.
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19:09:02	low_light	I have one, somewhere. I think it's an hdd1835. Looks the same as the 1630. Don't know what the extra "5" means.
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19:10:59	low_light	LambdaCalculus37: I don't believe there's a UMS mode for the SA9200, just recovery. I'm sure I tried every possible key combo at some point :)
19:12:01	LambdaCalculus37	low_light: I wonder what's different with the HDD1635/1835 versus the 1630/1830.
19:14:17	low_light	LambdaCalculus37: Don't know. But doesn't seem to be anything significant
19:15:11	bertrik	Do they use a unified firmware for the OF too?
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19:17:27	CIA-7	New commit by mcuelenaere (r28495): Android port: NewStringUTF() JNI call doesn't need freeing, these will get garbage collected. ...
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19:21:23	CIA-7	New commit by bertrik (r28496): Enable tea5767 tuner detection for Philips GoGear HDD63x0 too (HDD6320 does not have a tuner, HDD6330 does)
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19:26:36	low_light	bertrik: thanks!
19:30:29	low_light	I wonder if I can setup a "cloud" build machine using Amazon ec2 with a ubuntu image.
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19:40:11	kugel	found the culprit
19:43:24	kugel	did we ever consider __attribute__((warn_unused_result))?
19:43:41	kugel	it would've been of great help for the bug I've tracked down
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19:55:40	kerradeph	anyone else have a sansa fuze V2 and running windows 7?
19:57:52	saratoga	just ask a question
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19:57:58	mcuelenaere	http://efreedom.com/Question/1-1083154/Can-Catch-SIGSEGV-Segmentation-Fault-Get-Stack-Trace-JNI-Android could be interesting to implement
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20:03:31	kerradeph	anyone?
20:03:59	kerradeph	I tried installing it but it can't find it in the meadia mode and it can't update in the file mode
20:04:33	kerradeph	let me clarify, the installer can't find my sansa while it is in the media mode
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20:11:09	devrandom	kerradeph: just did my fuze v1 with manual installation
20:11:57	kerradeph	ok, I guess I will try that
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20:23:36	CIA-7	New commit by kugel (r28499): Make the context menu pop up instantly after the long press timeout when holding a list item instead of just after the thumb/styles left the screen.
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20:50:11	mcuelenaere	kugel: well I meant more in general, not only related to your patch
20:50:25	kugel	I realized that
20:50:43	kugel	and so I also meant in general :)
20:50:49	mcuelenaere	currently it will silently fail on most stuff I guess
20:50:59	mcuelenaere	at least some warning in logcat would be nice :)
20:51:11	kugel	it'll simply force close
20:51:32	kugel	did you experience a failure?
20:51:43	mcuelenaere	kugel: NewDirectByteBuffer could throw an OutOfMemory exception
20:51:44	mcuelenaere	no
20:51:49	mcuelenaere	it's just good coding practice :)
20:52:13	kugel	we can't sensibly continue if one of the object instantiation fails, so whether we check or not, we're doomed and have to exit
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20:52:59	kugel	we could have ASSERT() for debug builds but I don't think it's needed in normal builds
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20:53:45	mcuelenaere	hmm the VM will probably give some hints to what caused the failure, if one would occur
20:54:02	mcuelenaere	so perhaps there wouldn't even need to be an assert
20:54:02	kugel	how can NewDirectByteBuffer throw OOm if it's based on static storage?
20:54:40	kugel	yea, I bet there'll be logcat output about failure anyway
20:54:58	mcuelenaere	eh I just picked a JNI call that looked like it could alloc some memory as example :)
20:55:16	kugel	hehe :)
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20:55:33	kugel	NewDirectByteBuffer though just wraps a java object around already allocated memory :P
20:55:37	mcuelenaere	(I wouldn't be surprised if that call results in a malloc though, doesn't it create a Java object?)
20:55:50	mcuelenaere	yes I just realised that :)
20:56:29	kugel	I don't think we need defensive coding here
20:56:59	mcuelenaere	and it does: http://google.com/codesearch/p?hl=en#atE6BTe41-M/vm/Jni.c&q=NewDirectByteBuffer&sa=N&cd=1&ct=rc but I guess this is getting off-topic :)
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22:50:50	CIA-7	New commit by kugel (r28500): Make −−zoom option of the sdl port correctly work with mouse clicks.
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23:04:37	soap	mcuelenaere, Is the Onda 747 usable w/o the stylus? Is it finger friendly?
23:05:01	mcuelenaere	soap: it is usable, if you have a big-enough font
23:05:32	mcuelenaere	although somethings aren't optimized yet, like returning to the home screen is a bit hit-and-miss
23:05:33	soap	thank you
23:05:39	mcuelenaere	(accuracy around the edges isn't that good)
23:06:49	mcuelenaere	keep in mind that this is a resistive touchscreen, which'll never be as finger friendly as a capacitive
23:07:29	soap	right, but since I've never used a capacitive one in my life I won't know what I'm missing.
23:09:01	kugel	mcuelenaere: you could increase the default font, the current is only 16px isn't it?
23:09:24	mcuelenaere	kugel: yes, hence I said "if you have a big-enough font"
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23:09:52	kugel	yea, why not default to a bigger font?
23:10:53	CIA-7	New commit by alle (r28501): More concrete names for the head and the tail of the linked list (no functional changes)
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23:11:34	kugel	mcuelenaere: hehe, just had a case of GetMethodID failure
23:11:48	kugel	(because I failed to recompile correctly)
23:12:00	kugel	but the logcat output is sufficient
23:12:02	mcuelenaere	kugel: hehe, did the VM point out the failure?
23:12:03	mcuelenaere	ok
23:12:31	kugel	it's better than any WARN_ON we could make
23:12:34	CIA-7	r28501 build result: All green
23:13:00	mcuelenaere	kugel: IIRC I set the default font size at a pretty good value, as I'm not using my VX747 anymore I can't give a better suggestion
23:13:35	kugel	judging from my legend which has about the same dpi, 16-adobe would be way too small for me
23:15:53	kugel	mcuelenaere: http://pastie.org/1276003 :(
23:16:25	mcuelenaere	hmm I have had Makefile/Android toolchain issues too
23:16:27	mcuelenaere	but not that one
23:16:35	mcuelenaere	usually removing the file or re-running make apk fixed it
23:17:30	*	Strife89 wonders why FS #9633 is still open.
23:20:46	kugel	ah gen dir wasn't created
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23:34:32	S_a_i_n_t	Farthen brought this to my attention http://download.rockbox.org/daily/manual/rockbox-ipodnano2g/rockbox-buildch3.html#x5-280003.1.2 I had been wondering why so many people seem to think that molding menu+select on the ipods == reboot (for example, when database init asks to reboot the player so changes can take effect) and I beilive Farthen found it. At the very least the wording in the manual need be changed. Some form of statement actively discouragin
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23:36:38	Farthen	at least something needs to be done on this matter because there are many people who reboot rockbox with menu+select on the nano 2g
23:36:53	Farthen	and this can cause serious ftl trouble
23:37:58	S_a_i_n_t	Well, a lot less trouble now, after TheSeven's extensive work on the matter...but only if the user has an emBIOS/iLoader'd Nano2G
23:40:56	TheSeven	S_a_i_n_t: weren't you saying that you didn't manage to break a rockbox bootloader installation that way?
23:41:10	TheSeven	but still, menu+select resets have nothing to do with regular reboots
23:41:38	TheSeven	i know there is no other way of exiting the apple firmware, but this table in the manual is highly misleading
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23:42:53	S_a_i_n_t	I have had all my .tcd files horribly corrupted using that key combo to reboot, but I haven't had anything anywhere near some of the troubles people have been having in #freemyipod
23:43:20	TheSeven	yes, fs level corruption is to be expected, but not ftl level corruption
23:43:50	S_a_i_n_t	nothing I couldn't fix myself...but I seem to have had some remarkable luck with the Rb bootloader.
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23:45:26	TheSeven	no "use itunes to restore"?
23:48:37	TheSeven	btw, does anybody want to try an all-in-one automated installation with iloader by just copying a file to the ipod?
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23:50:04	S_a_i_n_t	TheSeven: Nope, I have not had that since the days when everyone was having the WSOD's on a daily basis. It does bother me somewhat however, that that was never fixed and that it simply "fixed" itself.
23:50:23	S_a_i_n_t	It makes me think it could decide to come back whenever it wants to.
23:50:37	*	TheSeven honestly doesn't want to bisect that :/
23:51:15	S_a_i_n_t	Yes, I'm quite glad in a way that it "fixed" itself...but on the other hand it bother me.
23:51:23	S_a_i_n_t	*bothers
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