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#rockbox log for 2010-11-07

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01:49:59soapThe Wiki is barfing about 25% of the time upon page edits.
01:50:14soapGetting generic "Internal Server Error"s.
01:51:21soapThis is happening both when I do a "raw edit" and that horrible GUI editor.
01:54:06Drisesoap: The gui could be worse. At least it is somewhat functional.
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03:45:32soapFinally found the time.
03:46:07soapIpodAccessories fully updated and fixed. 15 accessories added. Lots of formatting cleanup.
03:47:09soapFive more pending PM replies from the forums.
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04:20:32LambdaCalculus37scorche: What is required for a port to get a subforum for installation/removal?
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04:37:26LambdaCalculus37bluebroth3r: Can you take a peek at FS #11732 when you get the chance?
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04:52:44LambdaCalculus37webguest79: There are people here. If you have a question, go ahead and ask.
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04:53:17webguest420any idea why my sansa e280 isnt mounting anymore (windows)
04:53:48webguest420it still charges according to rockbox but i cant find the removable drive
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05:20:09WPSeditorIs the GSOC theme editor available ?
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10:44:13*Buschel needs some benchmarks of FS #11716 on MCF5249, MCF5250 and non-PP ARM CPUs
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10:47:45*[Saint] wonders what "major problems" are exactly...
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11:39:47n1sBuschel: i can test but i don't think it's true that the coldfire cpus suffer from having code in iram in general, they do sometimes which may depend on cache effects
11:47:24n1shmm, i'll need to restore my cf toolchain first it seems :/
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11:54:02Buscheln1s: ok, let's see :) I am also somehow doubting that we did such a mistake in the libmad configuration...
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12:01:45n1ssvn takes 26.50MHz and with your patch 26.47MHz for a 128k sample so it is very slightly faster
12:01:55n1son h300 (mcf5249)
12:02:29n1smcf5349 and mcf5250 should be performing identically btw
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12:10:45CIA-7New commit by jdgordon (r28526): remove an unused variable and #include
12:12:25CIA-7r28526 build result: All green
12:12:28Buscheln1s: then let's just do it. do you have any non-PP ARM for benchmarking, too?
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12:23:27n1si have a fuzev1 and the beast, the beast at least doesn't use iram
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12:30:26LambdaCalculus37It appears that the Sansa m200 v1/v2/v3 build no longer builds in recent SVN revisions. I contributed a patch to partially fix the problems in FS #11730.
12:31:04LambdaCalculus37The patch renames the keymap buttons to match what's in button-target.h for the m200.
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12:33:28*LambdaCalculus37 will look at what else is wrong later on
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12:33:38n1sBuschel: on the fuze your patch slows it down about 1MHz
12:33:54Buscheln1s: interesting...
12:34:20Buscheln1s: what happens, if you switch off ICODE for this CPU?
12:34:36n1sBuschel: i can test later, gtg now
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12:35:36Buschelsee you
12:37:45*JdGordon likes the new rockbox loading screen on android
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12:45:22CIA-7New commit by teru (r28527): set mode argument for open() where O_CREAT flag is/can be set.
12:47:05CIA-7r28527 build result: All green
12:53:14*JdGordon has dynamic screen size workng on android
12:56:07JdGordonwho has an android phone that isnt 480x800?
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13:07:14pixelmagevaerts: what do you think of marking the early USB bug report as 50% complete? I'd think it would make it easier to spot that it was partially fixed but not completely
13:09:38pixelmamaybe the "reopen" from yesterday's incident is drawing enough attention already though
13:09:50JdGordonrasher: GodEater: scorche: Zagor: Bagder: lambda: anyone_else_with_an_android:"> <- svn with dynamic screen size patch. scrolling is broken but otherwise needs testing
13:11:17JdGordonit's 7MB because it contains most of the fonts and all the cabbie images for all sizes
13:21:57amiconnn1s, Buschel: If performance on coldfire goes down when moving code to iram, this does definitely not come from iram itself
13:22:59amiconnIt's rather that by moving code to iram, the functions remaining in dram move to different addresses relative to each other, which may affect caching
13:23:51amiconnThe coldfire instruction cache is direct mapped, that's why this effect can be quite noticeable
13:24:15amiconnThat said, coldfire profits much more from moving data to iram rather than code
13:29:22CIA-7New commit by teru (r28528): Fix themeeditor building by correcting spelling of 'seperate'.
13:31:02CIA-7r28528 build result: All green
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13:35:35JdGordonanyone know where the scrolling text is copied into the line buffer in the scroll enginge?
13:35:37JdGordonI can't seem to find it
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13:36:54terusomewhere in lcd-bitmap-common.c, i think.
13:37:24JdGordonah, found it
13:37:39JdGordonstrlcpy(s->line, string, sizeof s->line); <- that sizeof looks slightly suspicious
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13:38:55JdGordonbecause in the dynamic screen size patch that changes to a run time sized array instead of known at compile time
13:39:01JdGordonwhich is why scrolling is snafu :)
13:39:06JdGordon p sizeof s->line
13:39:08JdGordon$7 = 8
13:39:45JdGordonwee :) easy fix
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14:03:00n1sBuschel: something weird is going on, you rpatch doesn't change anything for the fuze and the md5 sums of the codec with and without the patcha re indded the same so this is probably just inaccurate measurement for some reason
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14:03:45Buscheln1s: i am also struggling right now. measuring my patch against current svn does not change anything...
14:04:01Buscheln1s: even patching v01 of the patch has no effect...
14:04:30teruI'd like to ask for testers for FS #6321 - Universal Image Viewer.
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14:21:15Buscheln1s: i cannot reproduce the speed up anymore... maybe just a mis-measurement? :/
14:25:05Buscheln1s: even tried with the exact build environment (r28428)
14:25:54*Buschel is sorry for the waste of time...
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15:03:35taodihcould i ask for some guidance in installing rockbox? (I have a problem with a bad checksum)
15:04:08taodihit's for the ipod nano 1ste gen
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15:07:27soapwhere are you seeing a bad checksum error?
15:07:51amoeHi all
15:08:22amoeanyone know if rockbox works on the Sandisk Fuze+ models? they seem to be new, don't know if they are different from the fuzev2.
15:09:30taodihright after starting up checksum would be 399A9A9 if that would be any help
15:09:56soaptaodih, what? where? You've lost me.
15:11:06taodihright after unplugging and the ipod would restart (black background with silver apple logo , when booting up)
15:11:19taodihow wait nvm
15:11:33[Saint]amoe: No, it doesn't.
15:11:34taodiharg yea right after that
15:12:14taodihdid it again when said to restart ipod and go disk mode
15:12:32soapHow did you install Rockbox, and have you ever successfully booted into Rockbox?
15:12:39taodihdidint do diskmode though because i have done it already and no avial when reinstalling
15:12:43amoe[Saint]: cheers :) do you know if there's any plans for this, or I should buy a fuzev2 instead?
15:12:59amoe[Saint]: I think I will probably buy a fuzev2 anyway but it would be good to know.
15:13:01taodihthe loader installed fine , rockbox also
15:13:02gevaertstaodih: did you install manually?
15:13:44taodihmanually and auto
15:14:05soapand you're sure you have a 1st generation nano and you are sure you installed a 1st generation nano firmware?
15:14:16gevaertsA checksum error *usually* means that a rockbox build for the wrong player was installed
15:14:39taodih:s weird.. i even checked with itunes again >.>
15:15:21taodihipod nano 1ste gen 2gb
15:15:51taodihsilver colour but don't think that matters :s
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15:16:25soapit sure does
15:16:35soapas there was never a silver 1st gen Nano.
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15:18:08soapPlease follow that link I posted and verify what, exactly, you have.
15:18:54taodihi'll see if it's the 2gen
15:19:40taodihthanks for the support ^^
15:20:02soapHow about you determine if it is even a _Nano_ and not a _Mini_. RBUTil should have picked your iPod correctly in Auto mode.
15:20:35taodihthe rockbox installer?
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15:20:44soapYes. Rockbox Utility
15:20:59taodihi did autocheck and it showed 1ste gen , that's why i'm so confused , but i will try 2de gen
15:21:07soapDid you happen to follow directions found on some other site than
15:21:12gevaertspixelma: I set it to 50% now. I doubt if anyone ever notices that bar though
15:21:31taodihwent to rockbox
15:21:33pixelmagevaerts: I doo ;)
15:21:41pixelmaerr... do
15:21:44soapDon't just randomly try firmwares. Properly determine what you have first.
15:21:49taodihok then
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15:23:16gevaertsI think rockbox utility will look for an existing .rockbox directory first to determine the model, and only look at things like USB ids if it doesn't find one
15:23:22taodihwell , i checked the link you gave me and looked at 2de gen and it does looks like mine right here , htough wonder why it showed as 1ste gen , i'll try it.
15:23:38gevaertsSo if you first installed the wrong build, it will get it "wrong"
15:24:15taodihwell that could have been it if i didint restore it via itunes (still had the serial so)
15:25:27taodihwhats the best way ? uninstall via rockbox?
15:26:16gevaertsremove the .rockbox directory
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15:30:46taodihseems it got me the wrong version , thanks soap for the link , didint check that way , and thanks gevaerts for helping me to ^^
15:30:55taodihhave a nice sunday ^^
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15:37:05CIA-7New commit by teru (r28529): pictreflow: tweak alpha value for the case number of slides < 3 so that fading looks a bit more smooth. ...
15:38:51CIA-7r28529 build result: All green
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17:23:23B4gderthere will be a picture online shortly
17:23:38wodzCan I ask someone with windows machine to compile binary of mkmpioboot (rbutil/mkmpioboot directory)?
17:24:09[Saint]sure, may take a while to upload on a shitty connection here though.
17:25:35wodz[Saint]: how work on 2bit battery is going BTW :-)
17:25:35B4gder and scroll down... =)
17:26:51[Saint]wodz: I was meaning to ask you the screen dimensions, so I could size it correctly.
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17:31:21wodz[Saint]: thx
17:32:19wodzB4gder: could you upload the tool from the link provided by [Saint] to directory with mpio bootloader on download server?
17:32:55wodzB4gder: hmm unpacked probably.
17:33:16[Saint]yeah, I couldn't uplaod it as an .exe
17:33:18B4gderI can do it later, I'm on a train right now and I rather not fiddle with those things right now
17:33:24[Saint]probably a sensible restriction
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17:34:02wodzB4gder: sure
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18:44:36wodzBadger: - linux x86 binary of mkmpioboot: Please upload it to the download server also
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21:59:43cmdbbqi have an old sansa e280 (e200 series v1) with an old version of rockbox on it. i want to revert to the stock firmware, so the device boots into that by default. i have no desire to revert to the original bootloader or whatever, i just want it to boot into sansa firmware by default. i remember doing this before, but not how. I think it just involved moving a file so it could not be found, but i do not remember. can anyone help?
22:00:41JdGordonI've rebuilt the dynamic screen size rockbox.apk so it copies the theme stuff onto the sdcard instead of flash, drops the disk usage from 40MB to 15MB (which is probably still too large)."> uninstall or clear rockbox's data to reclaim the space
22:07:03JdGordonanyone who downloaded the apk last night should reget it anyway, I left in so it always unzips the which is a bit crap
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22:10:25CIA-7New commit by jdgordon (r28530): android: don't crash if the user presses HOME while the loading screen is showing, this shuld also be made canceleable later
22:12:03CIA-7r28530 build result: All green
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22:15:16CIA-7New commit by Buschel (r28531): Tiny refactoring of libmad's synthesis filter. This allows minor speed up and higher precision on ARM, plus a simplification in dct32 configuration.
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22:42:33CIA-7New commit by Buschel (r28532): Clean up libmad, remove unused compile options and source paths.
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23:20:30Buschelwow, r28531 had only minor effect on PP502x but quite large effect in S5L870x -> ~7% faster
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23:28:47amiconnBuschel: Double negation error: "case of Coldfire it doesn't loose no additional precision."
23:29:27Buschelamiconn: :( might change this with an upcoming commit
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23:32:27amiconnAlso, doesn't r28532 make the plain C version slower, or is y always a constant (and the >>3 merged in at compile time)?
23:34:33Buschely is always a constant and >>3 is done at compile time
23:37:36amiconnOn armv6(+) you can save one more cycle (and a scratch reg) by replacing smull -> smmul
23:38:05Buschelyes, but I cannot test as I do not have an armv6+
23:38:13amiconnHowever, this code is sub-optimal on armv6 because of the mul result latency
23:38:33Buschelyes, there are some possible optimization in the synthesis asm
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23:39:21Buscheldamn, too many typos.... should better get some sleep
23:39:47amiconnThat's a general problem with longer asm blocks. Different arm versions need different scheduling for best performance
23:46:14Buschelif anyone finds time to test libmad with vs. svn on a non-PP ARM target, this would be fine :) I would like to avoid damaging any performance before submitting
23:50:30n1salso libmad is dualthreaded on pp so an optimization has to help the thread doing the most work for it to show up IIUC
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23:57:12Buscheln1s: r28532 sped up PP502x by 0.25 MHz. This is nearly identical the theoretically expected max gain (2 channels * 44100 samples * 2.5 cycles per sample)
23:58:10Buscheln1s: the effect on the S5L is much bigger −− don't ask me why...

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