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#rockbox log for 2010-11-11

00:03:04freddybSaint: I didn't have my latest posted. Get the new one from FS #8961. Here are the command line opts: Use negative trim to pad.
00:03:47S_a_i_n_taha: when I said "your latest" was "your latest on the tracker".
00:03:52S_a_i_n_tsorry for the confusion.
00:04:21S_a_i_n_tso, if you haven't added one in any recent ammount of's busted still.
00:04:52freddybI just added it a second ago.
00:04:55S_a_i_n_tthough it seems you have, nice.
00:05:12JdGordAren't the source files for the fonts text? You could probably just script a line adder easily
00:05:40freddybI have not touched it for a while so I'm sorry if my memory is wrong.
00:06:12freddybJdGord: truetype fonts, not BDF's
00:06:32S_a_i_n_tso (in theory if not in practice) "convttf -TA 10 font.ttf" adds 10 pix blank padding to ascent?
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00:06:54S_a_i_n_tis it possible to use the absolute height, and the padding flags together?
00:07:17freddybNo, convttf -TA -10 (minus)
00:07:56S_a_i_n_t so -p10 -TA -8 made an 8pt font with 2 pix ascent, being 10pt total??
00:08:07S_a_i_n_tsorry, I have a very specific need for a font.
00:08:12S_a_i_n_tdon't mean to be a pain.
00:09:22S_a_i_n_twhat I need is a 12px font, with 2px ascent and 2px descent to make it 16px total's been a royal PITA trying to guess how to do this, especially with (previously) broken max font height.
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00:11:53freddybSaint: a font with a 2px ascent and 2px descent is 4px, right?
00:12:23S_a_i_n_tsorry *additional ascent/descent
00:12:28S_a_i_n_t"padding" in your terms.
00:12:50S_a_i_n_tso, I want the font to be 12px chars, but the total font height to be 16px
00:13:03S_a_i_n_tso...2 px blank padding top and bottom
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00:17:46wodzAnyone have an idea why MPIO decided to have separate GPIOs connecting USB bridge VCC and GND to power rails?
00:17:50freddybSaint: try this and work from there: convttf -p 16 -d -s 65 -l 90 font.ttf and look at the ascii art. TTF fonts don't necessarily have a 'top' and a 'bottom'. Each glyph can go wherever it wants.
00:19:32freddybalso the -p option tries to make that font size after trimming/padding. so convttf -p 30 [other options] should give a 30px font
00:20:24S_a_i_n_tcan -p be used with -TA and firends?
00:20:36S_a_i_n_tit is usually the descent that needs adjustment.
00:21:00S_a_i_n_tI rather thought it would be similar to convbdf, but it seems not to be.
00:21:13freddybyes, the code makes the adjustments and scales the whole thing to -p
00:21:49freddybthat's why I used percentages instead of pixels when I started.
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00:32:53freddybconvttf -p 16 -d -Ta -2 -Td 3 Arial.ttf makes a 12px font with 2 px cushion above "T" and 2px below baseline
00:33:53S_a_i_n_tthankyou freddyb, I suspect that command will be font-specific, but I will adapt it to my needs.
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00:34:07S_a_i_n_tI was thinking along the same lines myself, again, thanks.
00:34:18freddybGood luck.
00:35:24S_a_i_n_tI need a Helvetica/Myriad/Podium Sans-esque font for my Apple rip-off needs the ascent/descent to make the line selector look right.
00:35:32S_a_i_n_tpain. in. the. ass!
00:35:40tmzt_dg2rootdoesn't android or ubuntu have a free one?
00:36:12S_a_i_n_ta free "..."?
00:37:04freddybWhere do you get your fonts?
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00:40:25S_a_i_n_tfreddyb: Hither and thither on the interwebz...'tis pretty hard to find nice, free fonts when you're going for a *very* specific look.
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00:41:05S_a_i_n_tMyriad and Podium Sans are (rightfully so) under copyright and there appears to be no free versions at all.
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03:14:00Unhelpfulsaratoga: *shouldn't* be a binsize hit on greyscale or mono, neither of which can use aafonts. *shouldn't.* been ages since i touched it.
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03:14:37Unhelpfulfreddyb: converting ttf directly to mono fonts should also be possible. freetype has no trouble rendering w/o antialiasing.
03:14:53Unhelpfulnobody's written support for mono fonts in convttf yet, though
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07:28:27mvahi there!
07:29:21mvaanybody knows, if it is some working issues to run subj on Samsung YP-P2?
07:29:26S_a_i_n_tmva: This isn't a social channel, but if you have a Rockbox related question...fell free to ask it.
07:29:46mvaalready ;)
07:31:11S_a_i_n_tmva: Rockbox does not support that player.
07:31:35S_a_i_n_tOnly the players listed here:
07:32:52mvai've found forum topic, where some guys reported, that they run Cowon D2 version on it. Also i've found an issue in bugtracker, with old patche, that needs rewriting for current code. But no one advice, how to upload Subj firmware on it :(
07:33:42S_a_i_n_tWhat is "Subj Firmware"?
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07:35:09mvarockbox ;) i mean, that player has its own firmware format, and i dunno, how to flash it even with D2 port of rockbox.
07:36:11krazykitmva, you can't. you'd need to do the hard work of updating the old code in line with the newer changes and continue the work on the port
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07:37:30S_a_i_n_tUnless someone else pops up in the near future and resumes work on this port, or starts a new effort into porting it you're on your own sorry.
07:37:46S_a_i_n_tThe good thing about that is, you have the motivation to do it ;)
07:38:43S_a_i_n_tRockbox ports are not done on request, the developers work on what they want to work on, usually with the targets thay have personally.
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07:41:01EviousIs there any way to deal with Windows 7 not mounting my Sansa Clip+ to a disk, but to a "Portable device"?
07:41:20EviousRunning as admin, copy+pasting path in Explorer, trying to rename the thing has not yet worked..
07:41:25n1sEvious: is it set to use msc/ums in the OF's settings?
07:41:44EviousDoh, this is an RTF issue, ain't it?
07:42:02S_a_i_n_twell...the manual does cover this.
07:42:19S_a_i_n_tnot for Win7 specifically, but for OSes as a whole.
07:42:59S_a_i_n_tSettings → System Settings → USB Mode → MSC
07:43:23mvabtw, some time ago i was update patches to actual on that moment code. I think, when i'll have some time to continue work ont — i'll try it ;)
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08:23:50EviousRockbox is amazing.
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08:26:49Stummigood morning
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09:58:23Ramlahey guys, where do i get frotz? :S
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10:08:36JdGordonS_a_i_n_t: ping
10:08:55Ramlahm, so it doesn't appear in plugin list but is associated in file browser?
10:10:01JdGordonthe z80 emulator? its a "viewer" which means you just use the file browser to select your .z80(?) and frotz loads it
10:10:25JdGordonwhic h is what (and probbaly the manual) says
10:10:46Ramlaok cool, thanks
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10:33:02S_a_i_n_tJdGordon: Mmmmmmmmyes?
10:33:24JdGordonare you still having Rp and Tp problems?
10:33:42S_a_i_n_tafaik yes.
10:33:51S_a_i_n_tI can't test it on device, though.
10:34:07JdGordonit works on sim though?
10:34:12S_a_i_n_tyou can pull the theme off my RBwiki page to test on yours if you'd like.
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10:35:33JdGordonif it works in the sim but not on target I'd be incredibl surprised or put it up to user error
10:35:51S_a_i_n_tI'm not sure it does work on the sim.
10:36:01S_a_i_n_tI haven't tested it as yet.
10:36:29S_a_i_n_tI just know it failed with an address that was somewhere near the middle of get_radio_token
10:36:42hen770i have joined to this room just to say thank you for the great work! i have installed it on Sansa e280 and it works flawlessly. again thanks.
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10:38:21Stummihm, you read just a "thanks" very seldom :)
10:40:14JdGordonS_a_i_n_t: the fms has the problem?
10:40:28S_a_i_n_tthe .sbs
10:40:46JdGordonsbs parses fine according to checkwps
10:40:49JdGordonditto wps
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10:41:19S_a_i_n_tJdGordon: You can tell if the .sbs is failing to load if the text for the menu starts up in the grey area.
10:41:34S_a_i_n_tand yes, it parses fine in the themeeditor too...but it doesn;t display.
10:41:44S_a_i_n_tparsing != working (as a rule)
10:41:56JdGordontake out the fms though, it is crashing checkwps
10:41:59JdGordon(fixing that now)
10:42:59JdGordonif the fms fails to load interesting things might happen which could make the wps or sbs appear to fail
10:43:18S_a_i_n_tYou can tell (additionally) if the .sbs hasn't loaded as you'll have no batter icon in the menus, and no "iPod / xx:xxAP/PM" alternating text.
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10:44:29S_a_i_n_tJdGordon: irrespective of the .fms...taking %Rp and %tp out of the .sbs makes it display.
10:44:38S_a_i_n_tso, I believe the problem lies in those tags.
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10:55:37JdGordonS_a_i_n_t: "Couldn't open simdisk/.rockbox/wps/iLike/Volume Bar.bmp"
10:57:39CIA-7New commit by jdgordon (r28552): Add a bit more debug output to checkwps
10:59:28JdGordonthe themeeditor shuold have complained about that...
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10:59:42CIA-7r28552 build result: 0 errors, 3 warnings (jdgordon committed)
11:04:43CIA-7New commit by jdgordon (r28553): fix warnings
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11:12:02JdGordonS_a_i_n_t: arg, I have nfi why this isnt working!
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12:00:11CIA-7r28554 build result: All green
12:01:44Stummiteru, ah, thanks :)
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12:27:50*JdGordon mentions something about hating the current bookmark implementation and voting for its removal so something better comes along!
12:35:00n1sJdGordon: carefull, if we start dropping everything someone hates, we'll end up with nothing left fairly quickly :P
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12:35:43CIA-7New commit by teru (r28555): maintain spaces and remove tabs for readability in apps/plugins/rockboy/rockboy.c
12:37:26CIA-7r28555 build result: All green
12:38:31JdGordonn1s: sweet! then we can start reimplementing everything from scratch!
12:39:03AlexPIf we get to chose what is going, I'll have Doom and the database :)
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12:39:49JdGordondoom can stay.. it isnt in the core :p
12:40:24JdGordonand skin stuff stays!
12:40:30*JdGordon preemts amiconn :D
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12:48:46pixelmaas if implementing from scratch is always a good idea and always helps solving bugs and never introduces new ones... ;)
12:59:30S_a_i_n_tJdGordon: Hmm... for some reason only the version on the wiki has that volumebar naming mess-up
12:59:56S_a_i_n_tThe version I have locally is named correctly, sorry about that.
13:00:25S_a_i_n_tHave you found what's messing up the tag(s)?
13:02:31JdGordonno, I got sidetracked making the checkwps verbose output nicer
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13:05:36CIA-7New commit by jdgordon (r28556): clean up checkwps' verbose output a bit
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13:08:06CIA-7New commit by teru (r28557): rest of FS #11632 by Michael Stummvoll with modification by me. ...
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13:40:31bertriksoap, I have some ideas to incrementally make iap cleaner and separate it a bit more from the serial driver, so iap can be done on other players too (nano 2g for example). I don't have the hardware myself. What do you think is the best way to get something going?
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13:41:34bertrikSomething like me creating patches, you hosting test builds somewhere and have a thread in the rockbox forums (or should it be on the tracker?)
13:46:21bertrikIn response to a new items about glibc memcpy change, I locally added a simple check for overlapping source and destinations. I haven't seen memcpy overlap problems so far in rockbox :)
13:47:39Bagderwe have the added benefit that we haven't built only with glibc's memcpy
13:48:15BagderI mean, there's less risk that all implementations have the same side-effects
13:48:23n1salso, our optimized memcpy's already assume no overlap and would probably break such code
13:49:51bertrikYeah, compiling and running your code on different platforms usually helps to find bugs :)
13:51:39n1shaha, our arm memcpy is a 100+ lines of asm function with ONE comment
13:52:47TorneThat seems like a reasonable ratio :)
13:53:44Tornethere's a lot more comments in the symbian one but it's 620 lines
13:54:17Torneit scares the crap out of me
13:55:20Stummi is this page still valid?
13:55:51Stummiwhat do i have to add to archlist for arm-eabi-builds?
13:56:24Bagderas in -archlist=arm,m68k,sh,mipsel,sdl,arm-eabi-gcc444
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14:04:05mc2739Zagor or Bagder: can you remove the reference to "source" on (Daily builds, voices, fonts and source) since a daily source tarball is no longer provided
14:04:26CIA-7New commit by mcuelenaere (r28558): Onda VX767: get some facts about the state of the current LCD driver straight ...
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14:19:03NEO_Xhello guys link to bootable win32 iso is not working
14:19:09NEO_Xdoes any one have another link
14:19:20Tornewhat iso?
14:19:45NEO_Xto unlock an older hdd
14:19:58Tornewhere is this link?
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14:21:54Tornei might be able to find you something with a bit more of a clue :)
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14:22:39NEO_Xi was googling to format my protected harddrive
14:22:47NEO_Xcame out to this channel
14:23:18Torneright, that's kinda offtopic.. we just happen to have needed to unlock Archos drives a few times
14:23:39NEO_Xbut you know how to unlock an 120 gig hitachi
14:27:06LambdaCalculus37Can someone take a look at FS #11730 and test it to see if it hopefully doesn't break the m200v4 builds? I haven't had a chance to test it yet.
14:27:35BagderNEO_X: no
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15:17:22froggymanwhats the current status of the fuzev2? As its not listed on the front page
15:18:42LambdaCalculus37froggyman: It's Stable.
15:18:46n1sfroggyman: it's included in the general sansa fuze category
15:18:57n1swhich doesn't include the fuze+ btw
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15:19:28froggymann1s, alright. Thats what I thought I was just making sure someone didn't forget to put it on the list
15:20:23LambdaCalculus37froggyman: AFAIK all of the AMS Sansas except for the c200v2 and m200v4 are all Stable. I know that the c200v2 is still Unstable and the m200v4 is still Unusable.
15:22:42LambdaCalculus37Speaking of the m200v4, what's keeping it in Unusable status? Just curious.
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16:06:19*LambdaCalculus37 should probably considering trying to hack on the m200 again :)
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16:19:25towolfsalve, if i want to try the usb enabling patch for clipv2 do i have to build or is there a build floating around somewhere?
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16:25:26towolfi’m referring to this patch:
16:27:17LambdaCalculus37towolf: You'll have to roll your own build.
16:28:10towolfLambdaCalculus37, i see, how much time should i put aside for this?
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16:45:10LambdaCalculus37towolf: It doesn't take very long at all.
16:51:26towolfalright, maybe some other time.
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17:50:23bertrikLambdaCalculus37, the m200v4 seems to have some kind of power supply problem, it shuts down or resets when the volume is too loud
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17:59:36LambdaCalculus37bertrik: Thanks for filling me in. :)
18:00:24bertrikAlso there is only one developer who has a m200v4 (Domonoky) IIRC
18:02:42LambdaCalculus37bertrik: And he hasn't been around as of late.
18:03:01LambdaCalculus37bertrik: I don't even remember who had Telechips-based m200s.
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18:09:36saratogai looked at the shutoff thing a while ago (without having a player) and coudln't see anything obviously wrong
18:09:50saratogaprobably just going to take some trial and error with the voltage settings
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19:25:43*TheSeven had some playback lockups when seeking around in a large mp3 file today
19:25:59TheSevenalso, the bitrate was detected incorrectly as 32kbit/s (should be 128kbit/s)
19:26:34TheSevenand there are playback lockups and weird glitches/noise when plugging in usb in charging mode
19:26:58pixelmaare you sure it was detected incorrectly and not that the metadata is wrong?
19:27:18TheSevenafaict there is no metadata in that file
19:27:26TheSevenjust raw mpeg frames, no id3
19:28:30pixelmaI was thinking of the mp3 header (not sure if this is what it's called exactly)
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19:36:28TheSeveniirc that directly influences the frame length assumed by the codec, so if that would be wrong nothing would work at all
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19:55:25AlchimystaWhere is a italian in this chat? Have a big problem!
19:55:53Stummihm, can an embedded cpu on an mp3 player overheat on big load over some time? I think not, or?
19:56:18BagderStummi: the old irivers did when we clocked them "too" high
19:57:19StummiBagder: concrete, i mean the arm in an sansa fuze. The sansa gets very warm when i play rockboy with an gbc zelda game
19:57:37Bagderit's not likely to cause a problem I would say
20:04:04dfktStummi, a clipv1 died on me, due to overheating
20:09:19Stummiok, nice to know. thanks
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20:31:25Buschelif anyone with an CF target is around: it would be fine if the latest patch in FS #11702 could be tested (mpc codec)
20:38:50BuschelTheSeven: your mp3 issue sounds like you've played a mp3 with variable bitrate that does not have a vbr haeader. in this case each frame may have another bitrate and the bitrate of the first frame is assumed as overall bitrate...
20:39:17amiconnTheSeven: Are you sure this is a cbr file? If it's some kind of vbr and the beginning is pure silence, the 32kbps are correct
20:39:31Buschelamiconn: exactly
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20:41:29amiconnsaratoga: Did you notice the brand new layer 2 and layer 1 test files?
20:42:07saratogaamiconn: no i'll check them out later
20:42:12saratogathanks for making them
20:48:14TheSevenBuschel, amiconn: do you know of any analyzer tool for that?
20:49:21KohlrabiTheSeven: you can use foobar2000 to correct VBR headers
20:49:41BuschelTheSeven: just open it with a hex-editor of your choice :o)
20:49:51TheSevenwhich bits?
20:49:53KohlrabiAnd you can check their integrity, too
20:50:13BuschelTheSeven: "XING" in the beginning of the file will show you whether a standard VBR header is used
20:50:22amiconnAnother useful tool is mp3val
20:50:34TheSeveni know there is none, i just want to know what the actual bitrate of the frames is
20:50:44TheSevenit's 128kbit/s, but it *might* be ABR
20:54:22TheSevenapparently it's CBR, but with some leading junk that could be misinterpreted as an mpeg 1 layer 2 32kbit/s header
20:54:54Buschelis it playing fine when deleting this junk from the file?
20:55:04*TheSeven is just trying that :)
20:55:20TheSevenediting a 300MB file on an ipod takes a while
20:56:17TheSevenseems to work well now
20:57:08Buschelso, just a more or less "broken" file
20:57:27TheSevenstill i don't undestand how this can lead to lockups when seeking
20:57:40TheSevenand in the morning it even locked up once when i just turned the hold switch off
20:59:37Buschelhmm, it should not lock up during seek. maybe this is connected to the file size?
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20:59:54*TheSeven just spotted another weird phenomenon:
21:00:09TheSevenif i bring up the quickscreen and keep holding menu, everything is fine.
21:00:36TheSevenbut if i press and hold center, then also press menu, and release center, it starts skipping
21:01:02TheSeveni'm holding the very same button, just avoided bringing up the quickscreen that way (it stays on the wps)
21:01:15AlchimystaThere are a italians in this chat?? I have a big big problem
21:03:55BuschelTheSeven: I do not really have an idea....
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21:09:12TheSevenoh, and when plugging in while holding menu (charging mode), *very* strange things happen
21:09:42TheSevensometimes playback just stops (it thinks it's still playing, but stuck), and can only be resumed by stopping playback completely
21:10:04Buschelsuch only happens with this fille? or in general?
21:10:17TheSeventhis happens with several files at least, not just this one
21:10:24TheSevenhowever i've only tested mp3
21:10:27TheSevenbut that's the simple case
21:10:33TheSevensometimes there's a bunch of garbage (half a second) played and then everything goes on normally
21:11:03Buschelare your use cases somehow touching the audio buffer?
21:11:18TheSevenand right now i had the most interesting one: half a second of garbage, another second of music, that chunk (the pcm buffer contents?) being looped three times, and then playback going on normally
21:11:30Buschelor the file buffer?
21:12:11TheSevenapparently something gets screwed badly when entering charging mode
21:12:25TheSeventhis used to work some time ago, but it's known broken on nano2g in 3.7 :/
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21:12:53TheSeveni've also heard of other people experiencing this
21:13:03TheSevenso you can probably try it on your own one
21:13:29*TheSeven suspects some kind of memory corruption
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21:17:23BuschelTheSeven: btw, I experience lock ups when wkaing up the nano via the lock-hardkey and connecting it via USB. the USB screen shows up and the nano is unusable. after a reset it works fine and can be re-connected lots of times w/o any issue.
21:18:27TheSevenrb bootloader? connecting usb before or after rb completes booting?
21:18:56BuschelTheSeven: after complete booting (in the main screen)
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21:19:54TheSevenhm, this works with iloader, so it must be some kind of init problem
21:20:02TheSevenbut what could be different after the reset?
21:20:25BuschelI am not sure it happens every time... but quite often.
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21:22:08TheSevencould a memory dump help to figure out the reason for the charging mode problem?
21:22:09saratogaoh wow the mdct lib looks bad for arm11
21:22:34TheSevenif yes, dumped at which point? is there some trigger i could use?
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21:23:59Buschelwho is our buffering guru?
21:24:04TheSevendo we have one?
21:24:16Tornei was gonna say, isn't that nobody
21:24:20*TheSeven has the impression that those are a dying breed
21:24:36bertrikNicoP worked on it
21:24:50TheSevenalso BlueDude, but i haven't seen him for ages
21:25:50*Buschel just reckons he did the last change...
21:27:07saratogaBlue Dude worked on the PCM side, not the file buffering side
21:27:20TheSevenyeah, but this seems to be a PCM side problem afaict
21:27:30saratogaPCM isn't that bad actually
21:27:41saratogaits the file side thats a mess
21:28:04*TheSeven will need to touch PCM buffering anyway if he wants to clean up the nano2g pcm driver (double buffering)
21:28:21saratogaso the current MDCT is really designed for the smallest possible RAM use so that all teh tables fit into IRAM, even if they have weird access patterns
21:28:42saratogafor arm11 and to a lesser extent arm9 w/o IRAM its probably better to not do that
21:31:23saratogait'd probably be a lot faster on arm11 if there was a special case for the 2048 mdct block (which is the main one most codecs use) where the table was arranged to be sequential in memory
21:31:36saratogait'd use 50% more RAM, but if we don't have IRAM its not a big deal
21:33:26TheSevenany ideas what could cause the (partly garbled) pcm buffer contents to be played three times and then continue normally?
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21:41:14TheSevenand why on earth does holding any unused button combination on the wps prevent the codec from keeping up? (even if i force-boost it)
21:43:49TheSevenalso, if i hold any unused button for ~4 seconds in the buffering debug screen, playback will stop until i let go of it, but only if i don't force-boost it (it says 48MHz and the codec apparently stops working at all after ~2 seconds of holding the button)
21:44:06TheSevenmight this be some kind of button event spam problem?
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22:13:32CIA-7New commit by bertrik (r28559): Signal strength meter for FM radio - FS #8151 by Przemysław Hołubowski
22:15:11CIA-7r28559 build result: All green
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22:41:43Super_DorkI have a Fuze V2 that I put Rockbox on and now it won't get past the splash screen. I looked on the forums and nobody has posted a solution there. Does anyone know how to solve this issue?
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22:43:16AlexPSuper_Dork: No, not yet
22:43:31AlexPUnfortunately none of the devs have a fuze with the issu
22:43:57AlexPSo until someone with the problem finds out what commit causes it, there isn't much that can be done
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22:44:08AlexP(reportedly old versions work)
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22:45:13Super_DorkWould it help if I sent my player to a dev so they could look at it and figure something out?
22:45:17pixelmabertrik: why do targets without radio see some binsize increase? It's not much but sometimes hints towards an oversight
22:45:38AlexPSuper_Dork: Possibly, where are you?
22:45:46tmzt_dg2rootis there usb debugging on fuzev2?
22:45:49bertrikpixelma, I don't know
22:45:52AlexPSuper_Dork: I say possibly as it depends on someone agreeing to :)
22:46:19bertrikPossibly an extra string in english.lang?
22:46:41Super_DorkSpeaking of radio, the radio on mine also doesn't work, although that's not related to Rockbox. I'm in Topeka, Kansas.
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22:47:17bertrikpixelma, I'll do a bloat-o-meter check
22:47:56AlexPSuper_Dork: I can't think of any devs in the US who have worked on the fuze offhand
22:48:16AlexPBut that isn't to say one of our US based people might not take an interest anyway :)
22:49:34Super_DorkWho would you suggest I ask?
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22:49:49Tornepost on the forums or email rockbox-dev
22:50:03tmzt_dg2rootthey issue isn't known or just the fix?
22:50:53AlexPwell, the cause of the issue and the fix
22:51:09AlexPSuper_Dork: dev mailing list is probably best
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23:09:15soapbertrik, the advantage of a test build _forum thread_ over FS entry is it is easier to remove the cruft and edit posts as needed to keep the dialog simple and to the point.
23:10:26soapI will not be leaving town until next Wednesday, at that point in time my internet may not be reliable enough to SSH home and build.
23:12:22bertriksoap, ok
23:15:05bertrikpixelma, largest binsize increases are in legal_tags (+48), core_language_builtin (+17) and get_radio_token (+12)
23:17:09bertrikI could #ifdef out the tokens for RSSI, but I'm not sure what would happen with an fms containing those tokens
23:18:40bertrikIt looks like currently all skin tokens are always present in the tag table
23:21:27JdGordonis the database used to get track metadata or does that only ever come from the file itself?
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