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#rockbox log for 2010-11-23

00:00:25saratogaBuschel: does it happen in the pGain1->num_gain_data == 1 case?
00:01:09BuschelI'll tell you in a sec
00:01:57saratogathis is strange, these are all parts of the codec we never touched
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00:08:12Buschelarrg, did some mistake
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00:13:46Buschelsaratoga: always happening in applyFixGain() in the (pGain1->num_gain_data == 1)-path
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00:17:22Buschelouch, bad thing
00:18:12Buschelfound it...
00:18:17Buschelfixed it...
00:20:41Buschelbug was introduced by myself with r24668 (February)
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00:26:42CIA-7New commit by Buschel (r28642): Fix bug in libatrac which lead to playback errors and/or distortions with some atrac3 files.
00:28:22Buschelgood one, isn't it? ;)
00:28:38CIA-7r28642 build result: All green
00:28:51saratogayeah nice find
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00:34:10Buschelsaratoga: if you find time, could you just give a chance on your beast? if at all the difference should be small, but the MEM_ALIGN macro is used instead of the __attribute__ stuff
00:34:43saratogaBuschel: is this different then the one last night?
00:39:09Buschelneeded to check. for the beast its the same. so, no need to check again
00:40:08saratogaah ok
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00:40:56saratogabtw i just figured out how to remote desktop into a windows 7 machine running an ubuntu vm running the rockbox simulator and get audio played on my local machine
00:41:14eWillOk, I've posted the bug report. Play/Pause button no longer returns to WPS from View Current Playlist. (revision where this started is known)
00:42:02CIA-7New commit by Buschel (r28643): Use MEM_ALIGN_ATTR in libatrac3.
00:43:56LloreaneWill: So it works in r28138 but not in r28140?
00:43:57CIA-7r28643 build result: All green
00:44:17eWillLlorean: correct
00:44:19LloreanYou mention the test was on 28641, which is 500 revisions different from the numbers you mentioned.
00:44:26Buschelgood night!
00:44:54eWillLlorean: side panel asked what version i was using.
00:45:02eWillLlorean: should i word better?
00:45:36LloreaneWill: Well, you should mention the last version it worked, the first version it didn't, and then the most current version that's still not working.
00:45:57*eWill is working on it...
00:46:08LloreanIt's okay, but it just wasn't entirely clear
00:46:45eWilloh wow −− I can't edit that can I?
00:46:59eWillyou can if you want.
00:47:09LloreanYou can just post a reply clarifying. It's not too big a deal, but since you said you tested on 28641 it sounds a little unclear
00:47:25eWillok thanks
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00:58:31eWillHow hard would it be to rotate the screen 90° when using the Text Viewer plugin?
00:59:17JdGordon|depends what effect you want
00:59:35JdGordon|very simple if you dont mind the text being rotated 90deg also :p
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01:02:30sideralHi JdGordon, did you need any further information regarding the remaining tagcache fixes? (FS #11721 and FS #11723)
01:03:43JdGordon|11721 is correct now?
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01:03:54JdGordon|looks like i missed the reply when you added it
01:04:11sideralYes it is
01:04:44eWillJdGordon: Me, yeah. Good?
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01:05:48JdGordon|alrighty, may was well get them in now while I wait for shit to compile at work :p
01:06:01sideral:) thank you
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01:13:18CIA-7New commit by jdgordon (r28644): Accept FS #11721 by Michael Hohmuth ...
01:15:06CIA-7r28644 build result: All green
01:15:18CIA-7New commit by jdgordon (r28645): Accept FS #11723 by Michael Hohmuth ...
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01:17:02CIA-7r28645 build result: 16 errors, 0 warnings (jdgordon committed)
01:17:45JdGordon|oh poo
01:21:53saratogaBuschel: (for the logs) is it just me or is the dct32 in libmad (and I guess mpc) needlessly shifting by 1 bit?
01:22:24saratogait seems like you can just rescale the trig coefficients by one bit (losslessly) and then you don't need to shift
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01:22:29saratogaunless i'm completely missing something
01:22:43sideralJdGordon: Hmm, why didn't I see this one? What is it trying to build, the database tool? Sorry for this one. Back to the drawing board I guess...
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01:24:19JdGordon|sideral: looks correct right?
01:25:26sideralYes it does, assuming the db tool doesn't use the command-queue craziness :) thanks
01:25:39JdGordon|well it cant, because it isnt compiled in :p
01:25:51CIA-7New commit by jdgordon (r28646): fix red
01:26:38sideralargh, should be ifndef instead of ifdef
01:26:58krazykitis it supposed to take a while (or sendfirm not give any output) while recovering a gigabeat s?
01:27:36CIA-7r28646 build result: 16 errors, 90 warnings (jdgordon committed)
01:27:36siderallike this:
01:28:07CIA-7New commit by jdgordon (r28647): once more
01:28:34JdGordon|gotta keep my commit:fix ratio even :p
01:29:43CIA-7r28647 build result: All green
01:31:15sideralthank you JdGordon!
01:31:23JdGordon|no, thank you!
01:31:31JdGordon|we need more people looking into the db :)
01:31:57sideralis there a make command to build everything (or another way I could have prevented this)?
01:31:58krazykiti'm running sendfirm, and it fails with the following output . beast users, some help please?
01:32:44krazykitthe gigabeat S screen doesn't update when i use sendfirm, either
01:33:18sideralI actually think the db is pretty neat, but I don't understand it fully yet
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01:34:26JdGordon|sideral: there are various hacks you can do, and people have their own scripts, but really it isnt a big deal
01:36:12saratogahuh a shift by 32 works in the sim, but if i try smmul on the beast its distorted
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01:39:34sideralBTW: I use Emacs... does anyone have a standard Emacs c-mode setup that produces the Rockbox coding style, by any chance?
01:40:17saratogagod damn it why isn't dircache on by default on the beast
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01:49:59krazykitif i have an unformatted hard drive in the beast, do I need to recover the OF before I can install rockbox?
01:51:23Unhelpfulkrazykit: i imagine so, probably with the upgrader would be the *easiest* way, but that particular firmware installs a boot firmware that will require the use of dual-boot rockbox (unless things have gotten better?)
01:53:32krazykitwell, i've been trying to use sendfirm to send an original NK.bin and it fails the first time straight away then errors out the second time i try after a few minutes. relevant output:
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01:57:12Unhelpfulkrazykit: that makes me wonder if you need either a newer or an older libmtp
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02:09:47eWillDebug Menu > CPU Frequency −−- When my e200v1 goes from 80MHz to 30MHz does the voltage go down too (saving battery)? Also, what is the "boost_counter".
02:13:50JdGordon|the counter is how many things have asked for boost
02:13:56JdGordon|usually it should be <2
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02:15:27eWillIf I hit "right" button, freq. goes down to 24MHz.
02:16:51JdGordon|best to leave that screen alone
02:17:31DerPapst <−− some wiki error
02:18:59eWillJdGordon: ok, but I didn't hurt anything by going down to 24MHz - right?
02:19:18*eWill knows he was warned
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03:56:26keenerdAnyone with a Fuze V2 and an SD card want to try to reproduce an error? I get crashes when playing a certain albumn from the sd card.
04:00:50Lloreanbut not when you copy the files from the card to internal storage?
04:00:54keenerdIt is fairly high bandwidth ogg. And freely redistributable. In 15 minutes I'll have a zipfile of it uploaded.
04:01:31LloreanHow did you copy it from the memory card to internal storage?
04:01:46keenerdUsed Rockbox's copy.
04:01:58keenerdWhich is much faster than it was in years paste :-)
04:02:33LloreanWhat kind of crash is it?
04:03:02keenerdHard lockup. You eon't even see an error message unless you are already siting in the debug menu.
04:03:40keenerdTwo different error messages:
04:04:15LloreanYou should probably file a bug report, then.
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04:04:24LloreanIf the album's freely distributable you can then attach it to the report
04:04:28keenerdPrefetch abort at EA000034 FSR 0x8 (domain 0, fault 8)
04:04:34keenerdData abort at 30815260 FSR 0x8 (domain 0, fault 8) address 0x9000069D
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04:05:26keenerdI'd like try to make sure it is really a bug first.
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04:08:55LloreanI'm not sure how you'd confirm it's really a bug based on someone else's results.
04:09:00LloreanYou'd have to rule it out or in locally.
04:09:55keenerdI could just be insane. Could be a hardware problem.
04:10:08keenerdIt is nice to have a confirmation on such stuff.
04:10:25LloreanYeah, but even if the person who tests can't reproduce it, that doesn't really confirm nor disprove it being a bug.
04:10:36LloreanThe fact that you can use Rockbox copy to get the files of the card, and then play them without crashes from the internal storage, while if they're played from the card you consistently (I assume) get crashes suggests pretty strongly that the files aren't corrupt. So assuming the card's good, it's the combination of Rockbox playback and the card, right?
04:11:07keenerdI'd like to narrow it down further.
04:11:09LloreanSo if it's hardware, there's no way to verify other than trying a different card with the exact same everything else, and then a different player but same build and same card, or something.
04:11:53LloreanDoes it always crash in the same file? Have you tried other very high bitrate files, other high computation but lower bitrate files, or combination high-cpu-high-bitrate files?
04:12:02keenerdFor all I know, it is a slow spot on the flash, where it can't read off fast enough.
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04:12:53keenerdBut I'll try those.
04:13:06keenerdAny suggestions for a good high cpu plugin?
04:14:47LloreanI think lossy wavpack is one of the least optimized lossy codecs.
04:15:06LloreanAnd of course ApeV2 is the highest CPU codec at high bitrate (which means decoding while reading often)
04:15:16LloreanEr Monkey's Audio
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04:15:47keenerdThis is crashing on <150kbs ogg though.
04:16:56LloreanYes, but the idea would be to see if you could reproduce the crash in other circumstances, no?
04:17:22LloreanOf course if it's just a bad part of the card, I would assume copying it from the card to internal storage would've had difficulty
04:17:38LloreanAs well, deleting it from the card then recopying (or making a second copy of it on the card, then playing that, to ensure it didn't re-use the same blocks) would be an idea
04:17:40keenerdI've done forensic recovery of flash.
04:17:47keenerdAnd have seen odder things.
04:18:16LloreanOdder things than what? Aren't both cases "rockbox reads the file from flash"?
04:19:01keenerdOdd things like controllers crashing when you dd out a 1MB chunk, but work find when you read out the same bytes as two 512KB chunks.
04:19:44keenerdBut those were some pretty messed up circumstances :-)
04:20:08LloreanBut this is one specific album consistently crashing, rather than anything from the card, right?
04:20:14LloreanHave you tried a second copy of the album on the card?
04:20:36keenerdDoing that now.
04:20:57keenerdAlbum is here: 47MB.
04:23:48saratogaanyone available who can look at one line of ARM asm and tell me why it doesn't do the same thing as 2 lines of c?
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04:36:35keenerdLlorean: I'm starting to think the whole things was a bad block problem.
04:38:30krazykitUnhelpful, i tried using libmtp-.3.0.1 to no avail. beastpatcher couldn't send an NK.bin either
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04:54:11saratogaTheSeven: ping
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05:14:29saratogabah I give up
05:14:46saratogaBuschel: if you could look at this, I don't understand:
05:15:09saratogathe last version thats written in all c and uses a 32 bit shift works fine
05:15:13saratogabut the two arm asm versions do not
05:15:19saratogai don't understand the difference
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05:22:21saratogaheres a more complete pastebin:
05:22:32saratogai stared at this for about an hour
05:22:37saratogai'm obviously missing something stupid
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08:08:00TheSevensaratoga: gnip
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08:39:20CIA-7New commit by kugel (r28648): Playlist viewer: Fix regression introduced by r28138 which made some buttons not work in the playlist viewer. ...
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08:41:19CIA-7r28648 build result: All green
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09:05:06CIA-7New commit by kugel (r28649): Backport r28648: Playlist viewer: Fix regression introduced by r28138 which made some buttons not work in the playlist viewer. ...
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09:08:53eWillThe time zone in the change log is "CET" what does that stand for?
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09:11:56eWillkugel: Your comment for the last commit references r28138. I think it should be r28139.
09:12:38kugelno, the actual change was 38, 39 only fixed compilation failure
09:13:03eWill38 compiled for me. 39 didn't and 40 fixed it
09:13:09kugeloh wait
09:13:15kugelyes, oops
09:15:59kugelI copy&pasted the wrong revision from the flyspray task :/
09:16:21eWilljust glad to help
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09:21:27eWillJust installed latest. Thanks kugel.
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09:24:10kugelBuschel (logs): shouldn't r28642 be backported?
09:25:22kugelgevaerts, AlexP: 3.7 gets 1 month old in a week. are we going for a 3.7.1?
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10:08:24pixelmaZagor: any news on the Go and Search box problem in the wiki?
10:09:11Zagorno, I haven't had time to look at it yet
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10:10:16pixelmaok, I just don't want it to be forgotten :)
10:11:14Zagorthat's good. feel free to remind me every few days.
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10:40:11gevaertskugel: yes. There are some vague plans to look at things in detail tonight
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10:57:52Stummia developer here who want's to look at my rockboy-patch?
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14:44:17Zagorpixelma: fixed
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15:20:26pixelmaZagor: nice, thanks :)
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16:50:20saratogaZagor: could you upload this file to the download server:
16:51:07Zagorsaratoga: done
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17:02:15saratogaanyone around who can look at a tiny bit of arm asm?
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17:13:22AlchiystaWhat is italian? i'm italian!
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17:25:15Stummiscorche, i got an mail with developer-invitation which said i can ask you for an cloak here :)
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17:46:50saratogain arm asm, is it possible to do a signed multiply of a signed and an unsigned integer without the unsigned getting interpreted a signed?
17:47:45saratogafor instance, using 16 bit integers as an example, can I multiply 60,000 by -7 without having the 60,000 converted to a large negative number by the op?
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17:50:00mortalscanmorning folks
17:50:36mortalscancan anyone tell me if ipod nano 3g is supported yet ?
17:50:47mortalscanor will be at some point?
17:50:48saratogathis website:
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18:03:53*Dreamxtreme throws his Ipod Classic 3G into the ring to help develop Rockbox on it once TheSeven is finished doing embios for it
18:04:40mortalscani take it no then
18:04:54Dreamxtremesoon maybe
18:04:58Dreamxtremei think
18:04:58TheSevensaratoga: you pinged me tonight?
18:05:24TheSevenand regarding your ARM ASM question: do you need the full 64bit result or only the lower 32 bits, and what ranges can the numbers be in?
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18:06:03TheSevenmortalscan: it probably will be at some point, but that point will be months, if not years, away
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18:07:57saratogaTheSeven: was going to ask you about that ASM
18:08:37saratogaI want to multiply a 32 bit unsigned value that takes the entire 32 bits by a signed integer and then only return the top 32 btis
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18:08:59saratogabasically, I want to use the smmul operation, except with one argument unsigned
18:09:03saratogai'm not sure if thats possible
18:09:08saratogai may have to rethink my optimization
18:09:33TheSevenit probably won't work in a single instruction
18:09:37saratogahmm buschel just PMed me saying its not
18:09:54saratogai'll try and rework the code so that i can use signed for both values
18:10:24TheSevenfor the bottom 32 bits it would have been doable :)
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18:20:36saratogaguess i'll have plenty to do during the holidays
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18:50:11Stummiscorche or scorche|sh: are you there?
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19:30:39gevaertsAlexP: ping
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19:44:41gevaertsAlexP: is my shortlist
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19:54:21gevaertsAlexP: I'm not sure what to do with the r28000 situation. I guess it's best not to touch stable for that though
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20:04:26Guest9567843Hey I started using Rockbox like 4-5 years ago on my iPod Video 60gb, and I seem to recall trying it out first in some kind of emulator that I swear I found on the site, to see if I liked it before I tried to install. Now that Rockbox has a solid build for sansa clips I'd like to put that on my mom's Clip, but it would help if I could show her what it would be like first. Any help please?
20:05:05gevaertsGuest9567843:"> is probably what you're looking for
20:06:31gevaertsOr rather">
20:06:37Guest9567843Thanks, exactly what I was looking for! They should have that easily accessible from the front page for people
20:08:41gevaertsThose binaries aren't actually provided by the project. They're provided by an individual developer on a best-effort basis. I'm not sure if we should have front page links to them...
20:11:08Guest9567843I see. Well I sure understand your point. You don't want to confuse people that it's official. It is very helpful though, so maybe a link with a warning?
20:12:52*gevaerts isn't sure
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20:14:12gevaerts says "Because it is mainly aimed at developers, there are no official downloads of ready-to-run Rockbox UI simulators", and that's at least partly true. The simulators are always going to have limitations that may give a wrong impression
20:14:56gevaertsI'm not saying we shouldn't publicise them more. I just think it's not a clear-cut thing
20:15:34pixelmamaybe put a link on the "extras" page?
20:16:00gevaertsActually, there is one there
20:16:02pixelmahaven't checked though if there already is a link
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20:32:45Nerdy3_14159265hey guys, my Fuze v2 won't display it's screen but at startup it will show the rockbox logo and sometimes while I'm playing it it will flick on then back off
20:32:59Nerdy3_14159265I know it's software because the ofw works fine
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20:36:15pixelmaNerdy3_14159265: did you try resetting settings (from PC) now? Also, which version are you running exactly?
20:36:35Nerdy3_14159265pixelma: I'm using the latest and I need to ask how to reset them from pc
20:37:30pixelmadelete the config.cfg (in the .rockbox folder)
20:37:51Nerdy3_14159265okay, now I just need to figure out how to unhide the folder in ubuntu
20:38:06pixelma"the latest" is not exact, what number can you read on the boot screen?
20:38:28Nerdy3_14159265pixelma: It's waaaay to fast to pick that out
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20:39:31pixelmaok, then you should find a rockbox-info.txt (also in the .rockbox folder) which has the info too
20:40:08pixelmacan't help you with ubuntu though
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20:40:39Nerdy3_14159265pixelma: I've deleted the config and I'll relaunch rockbox and find out later
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20:57:33Nerdy3_14159265Back and I think I've figured it out
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20:59:54Nerdy3_14159265pixelma: I think I've got it now
21:02:02pixelmado you know what happened? Maybe it would have been better to just rename the file or copy it somewhere else in case it gives some info (forgot about it myself though)
21:02:58Nerdy3_14159265pixelma: My battery was basically dead but rockbox didn't warn me when I was playing that game or anything
21:03:21Nerdy3_14159265pixelma: since the battery was so low it can support that level of brightness but rockbox is still acting weird
21:03:42Nerdy3_14159265pixelma: I'm charging and the screen will work until I try to scroll then it stops working for awhile
21:05:43Nerdy3_14159265pixelma: back later
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21:15:39bertrikranmachan, can you test this patch on your c200v2
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21:34:12pixelmabertrik: it may help if you mention which patch you are talking about (maybe I missed something though)
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22:06:20AlexPgevaerts: sorry, was unexpectedly out
22:06:43AlexPgevaerts: The list looks good, and I think we should leave r28000 as is for 3.7
22:06:44ranmachanbertrik: What does the changed R_DCDC_SET value do?
22:07:49gevaertsAlexP: actually, forget r28409. That's not classic on-target code...
22:09:22AlexPah yes (I didn't look at the actual commits) :)
22:09:26bertrikit lowers the display bias a bit, this value currently seems too high, limiting the allowable contrast range
22:09:43gevaertsAlexP: hm, is r28360 serious enough, or actually a bug (as opposed to a change in how we deal with things)?
22:10:20scorcheStummi: i am here
22:10:33AlexPgevaerts: arguable I think
22:10:58gevaertsOK. I'd say that means "no backport"
22:11:46AlexPyeah, probably right
22:12:05gevaertsEspecially for a thing this minor
22:14:26CIA-7New commit by gevaerts (r28651): 3.7 branch: backport r28418 (disktidy: handles user abort properly)
22:15:43CIA-7New commit by gevaerts (r28652): 3.7 branch: backport r28608 (Wait for the db to be ready before trying to to any runtime stats, FS #11722 by Michael Hohmuth)
22:16:42bertrikWhat's the deal with the backports?
22:17:06bertrikWill we have some official bug backport branch now for each release now?
22:17:41AlexPbertrik: That's the plan
22:17:54gevaertsah, that translation update is there alreasy
22:18:00AlexPWe are shortly going to do 3.7.1
22:20:05gevaertsOK, that means 3.7.1 has
22:20:39AlexPgevaerts: Awesome, I was just about to do that :)
22:21:03AlexPI'll do the provisional release notes
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22:24:53ranmachanbertrik: Patch is ok
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22:56:21gevaertsAlexP: it seems that TheSeven is good at understatement :)
22:56:41AlexPyes :)
22:56:48AlexPMaybe that small should go
22:56:59gevaertsWell, the bug was small
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22:57:45gevaertsIIRC the result of that fix is something like "writing is three times faster now"
22:57:47AlexPI need to add to one of the manual ones, it doesn't mean anything on its own
22:58:10gevaertsI'd ignore manual fixes in the release notes actually
22:59:08AlexPyes, the other one is superseded anyway
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23:01:43gevaertsSo what's the plan for getting this out?
23:02:51AlexPI don't think there is too much - build everything, get it uploaded, announce?
23:02:55AlexPtag etc.
23:03:08AlexPWhat I mean is we don't need to wait for anything
23:03:31gevaertsMaybe we want to backport r28427 too?
23:04:08AlexPI doesn't really matter for the release though, where version is done via the scripts
23:04:21AlexPI always matter :)
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23:05:40gevaertsWe should probably start incrementing those version numbers
23:06:50*gevaerts starts on that
23:06:58AlexPOK, cool :)
23:09:07gevaertshm, did any user-visible string change?
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23:09:40gevaertsIn other words, do we increment "voicerelease" in tools/
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23:10:40AlexPa good question
23:11:43gevaertsapps/lang didn't change apart from this one Russian update
23:11:51*gevaerts decides to leave that one at 3.7
23:13:51gevaertsAlexP: any educated guess on when we release? That script has a date in it!
23:14:06AlexPhehe :)
23:14:21AlexPI'm out tomorrow night (not sure when back), but am there Thursday
23:14:33gevaertsok, let's try for Thursday then
23:14:40AlexPsounds good
23:15:03CIA-7New commit by gevaerts (r28653): Bump version numbers in preparation for 3.7.1
23:17:12gevaertsMaybe a mail to the dev list to see if people have other stuff to propose?
23:18:20AlexPyeppers, why not indeed :)
23:18:42*gevaerts prepares to toss a coin
23:18:48gevaertsAlexP: heads or tails?
23:19:07gevaertstails it is. I'll get to work
23:19:13AlexPhaha :)
23:19:19AlexPI don't mind sending it :)
23:21:27*gevaerts is on it
23:21:36AlexPk, cool :)
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