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#rockbox log for 2010-12-18

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01:32:08peterfcan you run code other than lua in rockbox?
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01:33:23rizeI just installed rockbox on my sansa... and it did not delete my existing songs which is nice. Except that, it's only 12 songs and I DO want to delete them and start fresh. Problem is I can't find them
01:33:52rizeI connected it to windows and browsed all folders (I have hidden and system folders visible) and I do not see the mp3's anywhere
01:34:23rizewindows cannot find any mp3's in a search either. but they play back just fine either in the original firmware or rockbox
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01:36:51peterfdid you try finding them in the rockbox file manager?
01:37:26AlexP_rize: They are hidden in a sansa OF folder somewhere with odd names etc.
01:37:44AlexP_You can delete any odd folders that show up in the rockbox file browser
01:38:00rizethey wouldn't show up in windows somewhere?
01:38:06AlexP_peterf: lua is the only interpreter in that sense
01:38:25AlexP_rize: I don't know how windows does it, maybe they are hidden
01:38:41peterfcan you make your own .rock executables?
01:38:46rizeperhaps. I have all types of hidden files showing, but who knows with windows
01:38:47AlexP_peterf: You can of course write native plugins etc.
01:38:56AlexP_rize: or are not mp3s
01:39:12peterfin lua?
01:39:16AlexP_peterf: in C
01:39:33rizenope, they are definitely mp3's and I have windows showing all files. they must be embeddeding in an existing file... only I don't see any files with enough size to hold 9 mp3's
01:39:47AlexP_How do you know they are mp3?
01:40:06rizewell, I put them on the player two weeks ago myself
01:40:15AlexP_And Rockbox won't play/find them if they are embedded in something else
01:40:23AlexP_Maybe they are in a recycle bin then
01:40:28AlexP_Try the disk tidy plugin
01:40:31rizeno it will play and find them just fine, windows doesn't seem them
01:40:37rizeah, recycle bin... that's an idea
01:40:55peterfhow do you compile the c code for rockbox
01:41:08peterfby the way, im using an ipod nano 2g
01:41:28AlexP_peterf: You set up a dev environment - check out the source from svn, then run tools/ to build the cross compilers
01:41:38AlexP_Then tools/configure, make
01:42:11AlexP_svn:// is what you want to check out
01:42:55rizeok, in the player they show up in ##MUSIC#
01:43:11AlexP_you can just delete that folder if you don't want them
01:43:20AlexP_The OF will recreate it everytime you boot it
01:43:40rizeok. I'm just curious though as I'm a sys admin, a programmer and a computer science grad student... just curious where the files are being stored at this point :)
01:44:52AlexP_peterf: Oh, and you need to add your plugin to apps/plugins/SOURCES too. I think there is some info on the wiki, one mo
01:45:34AlexP_peterf: Lots of stuff here:
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03:23:38marinesafter inserting sd card into sansa c240v2 i get "*PANIC* microSD init failed: -2"
03:25:55S_a_i_n_tjust to clarify, are you inserting the card before or after turning the player on?
03:26:41S_a_i_n_tI believe you should try to insert the card before turning the player on.
03:26:47S_a_i_n_tsee if it helps, anyway.
03:26:56marinesit does not
03:27:10marinescard isn't detected then
03:27:19marinesit happened today
03:27:38marinesi guess i will have to try one of the previous builds
03:27:53S_a_i_n_thave you tried verifying that the card can be read by another device/reader?
03:28:02marinesit's ok
03:28:24marinesrockbox info says that mscard is not present
03:29:24marinesyeah :/
03:31:01saratogait shouldn't matter when you insert a card
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03:32:44marinesnow "...failed: -3"
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03:35:32marinesdoes it mean hardware is damaged? :/
03:37:40marinesthere are builds only from three days ago?
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03:42:19saratogaits probably just because the c200v2 port isn't very stable
03:42:51saratogaalthough trying an older build to see if something broke SD recently isn't a bad idea
03:43:25marineseven if it worked very well for a month?
03:43:35marinesi tried with build from 3 days ago
03:43:38marinesnothing changed
03:43:54marinesi tried with another sd card
03:44:04marinesand rb doesn'tcomplain about it
03:44:14marinesit just isn't recognized at all
03:44:31marinesthe first one caused panic
03:45:41saratogaif it used to work figure out what build broke it
03:46:12marinesit worked with the same build i've noticed it doesn't work
03:46:37marinesi didn't change rb in recently
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03:50:14marinescan low temperature damage electronics?
03:51:10marinesi mean down to -20 grades
03:52:11S_a_i_n_tit's certainly not withing the usual safe operating range.
03:52:58S_a_i_n_tmost electronics state the operating range as (approx) -2C ~ 50C
03:53:34marineswhile it was operating i was keeping player tight in hand so temp should be much higher there
03:53:59marinesi was keeping it in a pocket for about 20 minutes on low temp but it was turned off
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04:04:51S_a_i_n_tI'm not sure the tem[erature is so much of an issue itself (unless it is very high or low extremes) but sudden transitions between hot/cold causing condensation which is the main problem as I understand it.
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04:07:58marinesi see
04:12:35marineson original firmware it works
04:12:46marinesat least i know hardware is ok
04:12:49marinesthat's good
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04:22:22marinesyes, it's rockbox fault
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04:22:53marinesafter firmware reinstall it doesn't work
04:23:28marinesperhaps somebody has build from a week ago or so?
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04:39:25marinesso there is no way to get older build without recompiling?
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04:44:20marinesit works
04:44:47marinesi got a build from old opera's temporary download dir
04:44:53marinesand sd card works
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05:01:45krazykitmarines, the useful thing would be to do a binary transect; build the halfway point between r28654 and the current version and see if that works, then keep going until you find where it breaks
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06:27:52CrazyKidhello. first time here
06:28:36S_a_i_n_tGreat, welcome. If you have a question it's best to just ask it.
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06:31:31CrazyKidCowon iAudio x7 just came out a couple weeks ago. . Touch Screen & 4.3 inch wide screen video. Wondering about how long it takes for rockbox to get crackin' on new gadgets. The iAudio x5 rockbox was so good, that I'm excited to see what Rockbox can do with the x7; or is there reason to believe it might not be able to hack into the device like it did the x5?
06:32:13[Saint]Well, there's no time period given on new ports. It doesn't work that way.
06:33:46[Saint]Someone needs to do the work that's actually interested in that particular device.
06:34:39[Saint]The developers basically work on what they want to, when they want to (or when they can), in their free time.
06:35:41CrazyKidif i could code. i would do it in a heartbeat. Guess I'll just have to check back from time to time. Hopefully something will come up within the next year. Thanks
06:36:59[Saint]To get a port started, you don't necessarily have to be able to code.
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06:37:39[Saint]you could start by gathering info about the device, scanning the PCB if you happen to own one and strip it down, identify components, etc.
06:38:52CrazyKidis there any walkthroughs on how to do that stuff? i dont know what PCB is
06:39:12CrazyKidand where do i post it after i collect the data
06:39:32[Saint]CrazyKid: To give you an idea of the work that needs to be done, you can check out:
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06:47:30CrazyKidwow. they want me to take it apart. is there anything else i can do?
06:47:54[Saint]That's how every port was done so far.
06:48:16[Saint]It seems like a lot of work because it really is.
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07:01:50[Saint]Would it be possible for the build system to include the .map file in the .zip? It wouldn't hurt anyone, I imagine it would be quite helpful in some instances.
07:02:38[Saint]data aborts, in particular.
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07:12:41LloreanIs the MicroSD slot expected to work in Rockbox 3.7.1 for Sansa Clip+?
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07:14:45the_KyleLlorean: The first Rockbox I put on my Clip+ was 3.7.1. I use svn trunk now with my own customizations, but the microSD slot worked from the beginning for me.
07:15:26LloreanJust got a new 16GB MicroSD card and it's not visible from within Rockbox.
07:17:53the_KyleI think I remember something being mentioned about 16 and 32GB cards sometimes not working. I also think I remember seeing a fix, but I'm not absolutely sure. My card is only 2 GB. Perhaps someone can tell me if this problem was in fact fixed in svn?
07:18:10[Saint]Llorean: Someone mention earlier their uSD card stopped working in RB
07:18:53[Saint]in a sansa c240v2
07:19:22[Saint]I believe he got it working going back some could try that.
07:20:23LloreanIt certainly works in an extremely old revision on my e200
07:20:47LloreanI have to go for a bit, but when I get back I'll update the e200v1 and see if it works, then see about rolling back my Clip+
07:21:32[Saint]perhaps you could try find a revision where it works on your Clip+, and bisect from there.
07:21:35[Saint]Good luck.
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07:49:08LloreanIs there a current vmware image that will work immediately, or will I need to rebuild compilers?
07:51:55Llorean3.7.1 on e200v1 works fine, on Clip+ it doesn't.
07:52:15LloreanMore or less to be expected since it was most likely a hardware issue.
07:55:25Lloreanscorche: What's up with forum user courserelal? I'm seeing several threads where the software thinks he has the most recent post, but when I visit them it's not there. And "show the last posts of this person" shows nothing.
07:55:48LloreanIs this an after-effect of the anti-spam stuff?
07:56:53*scorche hits the nuke spam button
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09:27:17Buschel[Saint]: could you please check if FS #11807_v10 works for you as well? especially when CPU is boosted?
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11:30:02bertrikdo we have a datasheet for ams v2 sd card controller?
11:37:57*bertrik would very much appreciate if driver code had some kind of reference to the information it's based on, or at least explain what device it is a driver for
11:38:02Bushmillscan i see somewhere the CPU clock of the device? sansa clip here.
11:39:27bertrikyes, in the debug menu, can't remember the exact sub-menu
11:40:36Bushmillsright, there it is. "CPU frequency". thanks
11:40:57Bushmills(the "keep out" on Debug menu item was kind of misleading :) )
11:41:37pixelmayou shouldn't usually need to enter it - why is this misleading?
11:41:56Bushmillscause i didn't bother to look in there
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12:01:58AlexPBushmills: It isn't misleading, you shouldn't go in there
12:02:08AlexPPeople don't generally need to see the cpu freq
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17:53:28phixxorhello y'all −− I'm having a problem where I can access my songs through the database, but if I browse by files, all I see are empty folders where the songs could be
17:53:33phixxoris this in the documentation?
17:53:53phixxorif it is, could you give me a hint as to where information is about that
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17:56:34domonokyphixxor: make sure the file view is set to "supported" or "all"
17:56:50phixxordomonoky, ok −− i'll give it a shot
17:57:04phixxori was able to see it until one day it stopped working
17:57:47domonokythen its very likely that you accidently changed the fileview to "playlists" or similar
17:58:25phixxorreally? fantastic :D I hope that's what happened. One more question if you have time: every time i turn on my DAP I get a message "database is NOT ready" −− is there any way I can make it ready?
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18:00:47phixxorright now my settings are to load the database to RAM, and auto update
18:00:47domonokytake a look at the database section in the manual :-)
18:00:55phixxorhaha, thanks :D
18:00:57phixxorI will
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18:02:09phixxorwould that be "section 8 general settings?"
18:03:55phixxorok i found it but gotta go
18:03:59phixxorthanks for your help!
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18:10:35saranacis anyone in here?
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18:14:15saranacis there any hope for recovering a nano 2g from FTL damage? the ipod will not mount
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18:17:08gevaertsI think so, but I don't have a nano2G myself, so I don't know any details
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18:19:40saranacdo you know of any command line tools for debugging via usb (unmounted)?
18:20:12gevaertsYou're sure it's FTL and not "just" filesystem corruption?
18:22:38saranacwell, i'm not totally sure, but it seems to boot into one of two states, depending on a delicate timing of button presses
18:23:37saranacone will say: "The FTL seems to be damaged." "Forcing check" "Scanning Flash..." "*PANIC*" "Division by Zero!"
18:24:07saranacanother says: "Entering recovery mode." "Connect via usb."
18:27:35saranacI should mention that it not only doesn't mount, but it does not show up as a disk device i.e. sda1
18:27:51gevaertsI think I've heard you can reset the FTL (i.e. low-level wipe the thing), but as I said, I don't have a nano...
18:33:33pixelmaTheSeven is the one who knows the most about the 2nd gen Nano and the FTL. If you stay here for a while, he may be able to help you. I don't know though if/when he's really around
18:34:21TheSevensaranac: known bug
18:35:48TheSeventhis is pre-r213 emBIOS, right?
18:36:04TheSevenas this isn't really a rockbox issue, we should probably move this discussion to #freemyipod-support
18:36:47saranacyes, should we move there now? its emBIOS version 0.1.2 r206
18:37:13TheSevenyou'll have to install half a dozen pc-side tools and then update it in recovery mode
18:37:28TheSevenr213 and newer can handle this case properly
18:37:38TheSevenif you're lucky, you don't even need to wipe it completely
18:37:55TheSevenapparently you're using linux?
18:38:14saranacyes, are the tools linux based?
18:38:35TheSeventhey should work on both windows and linux
18:38:50TheSevenwhich python versions do you have installed?
18:39:41TheSevenget 1.0/1.0.0-alpha-0/ and run install in the place where you extracted it
18:39:55TheSevenmake sure it's run in python 2.6/2.7
18:40:24TheSeventhat's fine
18:40:41TheSevenalso download, and libembios*.py from here:
18:41:05TheSevenand you'll also need">
18:42:09saranaci'm downloading them now
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18:43:30TheSevenonce you go all of those, run the following command in the directory where you placed the files:
18:43:57TheSeven(the ipod should be in recovery mode, i.e. turn on the hold switch immediately after resetting)
18:44:06TheSevenpython ipodnano2g-installer*.bin
18:44:52TheSevenif you're lucky that will already fix it and update emBIOS/iLoader. if not, you'll need to completely wipe the flash
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18:47:42saranacok, i'm doing this now.
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19:01:15saranacafter running I get the following: "Connected to emBIOS Loader Recovery Mode on iPod Nano 2G, USB version 1" but it also says to provide a command and parameters as command line arguments
19:02:29*TheSeven mixed things up
19:02:51TheSevenpython upload 08000000 ipodnano2g-installer*.bin && python execute 08000000 0a000000
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19:07:20saranacTheSeven, thank you so very much. You are awesome!
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19:11:58saranacNow, the partition table is said to be invalid, but luckily i can just copy the first 512 bytes from another nano 2g using dd.
19:12:15TheSevendepends on how you installed it
19:12:24TheSevendid you remove the apple firmware partition?
19:12:40saranacyes. is there another way then?
19:13:00TheSevenit's formatted as a "superfloppy" in that case
19:13:19TheSeveni.e. /dev/sdb, or whatever it is, is directly the file system
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19:13:23TheSevenno partition table at all
19:14:36saranacso, should there be a partition table? i.e. should i create one?
19:15:41TheSevenjust mount /dev/sdb directly, not /dev/sdb1
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19:16:23saranacoh! i get it now.
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19:19:12saranacso should i mount as vfat?
19:19:52TheSevenmount should usually autodetec that
19:23:03saranacmount is asking me to specify.. tried vfat, got wrong fs type message
19:23:56TheSevenso the superblock is corrupted?
19:24:31saranacpossibly.. mount didn't say for sure. how can i tell?
19:26:50zichodoes anyone know if rockbox is compatible with ipod video?
19:27:02zichooh, sorry
19:27:07zichoi missed it on the website
19:27:26TheSevenzicho: if it's really an ipod video (and not for example an ipod classic, the one apple is selling currently), it will work
19:27:58TheSevensaranac: if it doesn't mount that's a pretty clear sign
19:28:07TheSevendid you try to dd a partition table to it?
19:28:14TheSevenif yes, you probably screwed it that way
19:28:22TheSevenif not, it was probably corrupted by the ftl problems
19:28:32saranacno, i didnt do that yet.
19:29:20saranaccan it simply be reformatted?
19:29:35TheSevenwhat does the ipod do currently?
19:29:42TheSevencomplain that it can't find a theme?
19:30:25zichowhich ipod is the one mentioned as 5.5g?
19:31:02TheSeven5.5g is an ipod video
19:31:37TheSevensaranac: ok, go back to that state (don't run disk mode), then execute the following command
19:32:39TheSevenpython ipodnano2g_wipenand /tmp/wipelog.bin
19:33:10TheSevenonce that completes, reboot it (or run python reset), disconnect it from the pc, and then run disk mode
19:33:39TheSevenit will stay at a white screen for some seconds (reinitializing the FTL), and then go back to the "no theme" menu
19:33:49TheSevenconnect it to the pc again, and run the following command:
19:33:59TheSevenpython runfirmware 08000000 ipodnano2g-installer*.bin
19:34:21TheSeventhe installer will run again, complain that it can't mount the file system, and ask you if you want to reformat it. choose yes.
19:34:44TheSeventhat way it will automatically reinstall the theme etc.
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19:37:37saranacok, its sitting at the whitescreen now. i'll post results when i complete these steps
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19:46:50TheSevensaranac: it shouldn't stay on the white screen for more than like 10 seconds
19:47:00saranacok, i repeat: TheSeven, you are awesome!
19:47:08TheSevendid everything work?
19:47:22saranacit even installed rockbox apparently
19:49:05TheSevenhm? that's interesting :)
19:49:44TheSeventhe installer i linked shouldn't contain rockbox
19:50:28TheSeveni have one that does, but didn't ever publish this (because it would be outdated rather soon)
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19:51:11saranaccorrection.. i got excited and jumped the gun on that one.
19:51:32saranaciloader simply had the rockbox "button"
19:52:45saranacTheSeven: thanks so much for your help with this. should this discussion be copied to another forum as you had mentioned earlier?
19:53:13TheSevenit has been there a couple of times :)
19:53:31TheSevenmaybe it was good to have it in the #rockbox logs one time as well, for reference
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19:54:39saranacyou must be very patient then, which i appreciate. i wonder why google didn't find the earler discussions
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19:59:41Self-PerfectionWould anyone be so kind as to reopen bug FS #11168? It seems for me it is not actually solved.
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20:01:17Self-PerfectionDefault font on my iPod Video takes 6.0-6.1 seconds to load according to bootchart.
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20:02:22TheSevenhm, any other patches applied?
20:02:39TheSevenif that would be like this on all ipods, i'd expect way more people to be complaining
20:04:01Self-PerfectionNope, only bootchart enabled.
20:04:07gevaertsSelf-Perfection: do you have .glyphcache files in .rockbox?
20:04:29Self-PerfectionYes. I tried to wipe it - did not help.
20:06:02gevaertshm, ok
20:06:37gevaertsOK, I reopened it. Please add your findings there :)
20:07:09CIA-7New commit by alex (r28849): Manual: change wording slightly in the USB charging section.
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20:07:33Self-Perfectiongevaerts: thank you
20:09:06CIA-7r28849 build result: All green
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20:16:30pixelmaAlexP: on the Ondio at least (probably all players that don't automatically turn on while connecting to USB) you can also hold the button while turning them on (USB already connected, of course)
20:17:15AlexPI suppose we should do some tests
20:17:23AlexPBut, another time
20:17:28gevaertsI think this is fine
20:17:40AlexPWhat is there now isn't any more right or wrong that what there before at least :)
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20:18:55gevaertsThe point is to avoid confusing people. If that means that some people with reasonably rare players don't realise that they can start holding the button a bit earlier, then I'm not too worried about that
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21:12:36kiddyshaq34Is there going to be sdl for rockbox?
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21:14:35kiddyshaq34Is there going to be sdl for rockbox?
21:14:44saratogaapparently songbird can sync with android phones automatically
21:14:49saratogai wonder if it works with rockbox
21:15:07saratogakiddyshaq34: what do you mean?
21:16:28kiddyshaq34excluding the simulator, sdl for rockbox
21:17:33kugelsaratoga: why shouldn't it?
21:18:23saratogakugel: maybe it requires some kind of database or something?
21:18:27saratoganever looked at it
21:18:34kugelsyncing with android means copying the files and trigger a media scanner re-run; but we don't use the builtin media library (partly because it doesn't know the formats we can play)
21:18:42saratogaah ok
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21:18:56saratogakiddyshaq34: I'm not entirely sure what you want, but my guess is no
21:19:03kugelI cannot imagine other magic being part of it
21:19:08stripwaxwhat does sdl "for" rockbox mean?
21:19:10saratogathough if you explain yourself i can probably give you a better answer
21:19:32stripwaxkiddyshaq34 - you want to write sdl applications, and run them on rockbox?
21:19:39kiddyshaq34remember? simple directmedia layer
21:19:55stripwaxyes, know what it means, don't understand the connection to rockbox
21:20:28AlexPkiddyshaq34: We all know what sdl is, we don't know what "sdl for rockbox" means
21:20:39kugelsaratoga: apparently it's done via a plugin that works for any UMS device, not only android phones
21:20:45saratogasomeone on HA was saying they got a lot of clipping with the dynamic range compressor, does anyone know why this would happen?
21:20:47kiddyshaq34stripwax: yes, I might develop sdl applications for rockbox
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21:20:54saratogakugel: ah ok, so we don't really have to support anything
21:21:12stripwaxkiddyshaq34 - then the answer is 'no, we will never implement sdl that runs within rockbox itself'
21:21:26stripwaxrockbox plugins will always be rockbox-native
21:21:54kiddyshaq34I meant libsdl
21:22:08*gevaerts isn't sure how big such a hypothetical sdl-for-rockbox would be
21:22:35saratogaprobably wouldn't work very well with our stripped down c library and lack of malloc, but i guess you could try and get it to compile inside a plugin
21:22:35stripwaxkiddyshaq34 - rockbox applications don't have libs in the way that you're probably thinking about things
21:22:53kugelkiddyshaq34: you would need to port sdl yourself if you want to use it
21:23:26stripwax'porting sdl' might be harder than 'just writing the plugin specifically for rockbox'
21:23:31kiddyshaq34how can you convert pc code into rockbox code?
21:23:55stripwaxkiddyshaq34 - there's no "one" answer to that question
21:24:27stripwaxthe most obvious answer is "take a look at the code, and replace system library calls with the rockbox equivalents, and, if there is no rockbox equivalent, implement your own"
21:24:41stripwax^system library^library
21:25:03stripwaxkiddyshaq34 - let's turn this around. what are you trying to do?
21:25:21kiddyshaq34port the sdl fire demo to rockbox
21:25:29stripwaxrockbox already has a fire demo
21:25:46kiddyshaq34I mean the red fireworks demo
21:25:56stripwaxrockbox already has a fireworks demo
21:26:03stripwaxmaybe you can just enhance the existing ones
21:27:40kiddyshaq34I'll try my best ;)
21:28:35kiddyshaq34see you later
21:28:37stripwaxjust note that rockbox has only basic graphics libraries
21:28:46stripwaxso it might be a fun project .. :)
21:28:48kiddyshaq34ok... :O
21:29:02kiddyshaq34ok bye
21:29:10kiddyshaq34see you ;)
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22:20:55CIA-7New commit by jethead71 (r28850): MPEGPlayer playlist should as well support all viewer-handled file extensions...indeed.
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22:34:51mc2739pixelma: does your c200 have fmradio?
22:35:38pixelmayes, AFAIK all have and the ones sold without only have it disabled in the Sansa OF
22:36:17Rob2222is there a dev that is working on the sansa targets?
22:36:29Rob2222-that +who
22:36:42mc2739Can you try something for me then? In the fm radio, if you press the submenu button, do you see the volume decrease as it enters the menu?
22:38:30pixelmait does indeed. Something is not "protected" with pre-conditions or so
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22:40:00pixelmaor some problem with linked contexts
22:41:39b0hoonLambdaCalculus37: (logs) i suppose any target with the external charging possibility has it, so yes.
22:45:15*b0hoon has just repaired his hdd63330 - Yeah!!!
22:51:06mc2739pixelma: thanks for testing - I'm not too familiar with this target, but knew that did not look proper
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23:05:34Rob2222Hmm, is anyone working on the "Sansa AMS doesnt recognize 16GB cards sometimes" problem? I just wantet to say, that if the card completes the initialisation (sometimes) ist works without any problems until the next reboot.
23:06:04Rob2222have problems with a 16GB sandsisk on fuze2 AND clip+
23:07:24Rob2222and card is working without any problems on OF
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23:10:28telliottAnyone try this patch to fix the microsd problem on the Clip+?
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23:16:50pixelmaRob2222: this may also answer your question. If you read the patch's description (link without the getfile part) it looks like bertrik is looking into it a bit and the guy at the tracker who provided the patch
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