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#rockbox log for 2011-01-01

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00:47:59TheSevenwhat's the maximum chunk size a PCM driver needs to be able to handle?
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00:59:01TheSevencan i safely assume that we'll only ever do 16bit stereo PCM transfers?
00:59:08TheSevensome other drivers seem to rely on that as well
00:59:46TheSevenhm, "16 bit samples, and an even sample count" fits it better
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01:52:13TheSevenseems like there are only two drivers left before we can start testing: LCD and ATA
01:52:53TheSevenlinuxstb: would you like to have an updated patch? or are you sure you won't have time anyway?
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03:28:42soapBuschel, I'll be up and awake in about 9 hours and should be ready to test then. Sorry for the 24 hour delay.
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05:59:56the_KyleHappy New Year!
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06:44:17[Saint]soap: ping?
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06:45:22[Saint]Is FS #11830 v7 the ATA patch in the iPod Colour build you built for me?
06:45:50[Saint]I'm compiling my own builds, and I'd like to keep testing it for testings sake.
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07:27:59[Saint]TheSeven: Ping?
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11:05:22Buschel[Saint]: you had the chance to test FS11843 v11 on one of your ipod color's ? or are the devices still in the locker ;)
11:06:54TheSeven[Saint]: gnip
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11:21:11[Saint]TheSeven: I noticed a change to enable USB interrupts snuck into the piezo patch, was that intentional?
11:21:35TheSevenprobably not
11:21:41[Saint]I'm rebuilding my tree, and I couldn't figure out why I was getting HID enabled Nano2G builds. ;)
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11:48:00*TheSeven decides to do some ATA driver rework
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12:14:07CIA-7New commit by mt (r28937): Fix FS #11845 by rejecting unknown header signatures in the audio stream info block. RALF uses a different header signature than ('.', 'r', 'a', 0xfd). ...
12:14:58*TheSeven throws http://pastie.org/1421150 into the room
12:15:14TheSevendo we want such a change in general?
12:15:25TheSevendid i get all the endianness logic right?
12:15:47TheSevenwho wants to test it?
12:16:28CIA-7r28937 build result: All green
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12:48:11AlexPIt is new year's day, I suspect there are a few sore heads around (including mine)
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13:25:04thomasjfoxhappy new year to everyone
13:36:26pixelmasame to you and all the others :)
13:42:40Dreamxtremeanyone get a change to look at the bug i said about ?
13:42:48*TheSeven wonders if Torne or some other ATA guru is awake :)
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14:04:16soap1/1/11
14:10:36thomasjfoxkugel: As you usually read the IRC logs, happy new year to you and I've fixed the database duplication issue for the application.
14:10:45Buschelsoap: does FS #11843 v11 work for you?
14:11:14soapI'm about to test
14:12:50soap94.0 and 376.0 were the numbers for v10 with FORCE FIFO WAIT commented out IIRC.
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14:16:19soap83.5 / 335.0 at 80Mhz, Buschel
14:16:44soapand I caught a brief glimpse of screen corruption of a splash when launching the plugin.
14:17:15soapyes, corruption of all in test_viewports
14:17:57Buschelhmm, is this also happening with v09?
14:18:14soapwas about to build 10, let be roll back again and check
14:21:43soaptest-viewports looks fine, splashes look fine with v09
14:22:38Buschelok, will take a look at this after lunch
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14:38:04Buschelsoap: this takes back the change I think is the cause -> http://pastie.org/1421298
14:38:12Buschelcan you verify?
14:38:21soapyes
14:46:09soap83.5 / 335.0 fps boosted (YUV) with this one (v11), hmm, a minor issue with test_viewports. Might be something i missed previously with stock
14:47:12Buschelok, now just change the following manually in target\arm\ipod\lcd-color_nano.c
14:47:23Buschelline 316, change to "#if 1"
14:47:52Buschelline 320, change to "addr += (LCD_WIDTH)/2;
14:47:59soapin a sec, rebuilding v09 to verify the test_viewports odd hang isn't somehow related to v11
14:48:04Buschelok
14:48:52soapjust those two changes?
14:48:55Buschelyes
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14:55:03soapok the slight viewport glitch verified as having existed with v09, so ignore that as it isn't new. V12 = 83.5 and 335.0 again.
14:55:58Buscheldid you already compile and test with local manual changes?
14:56:17soapthat's what I'm calling v12
14:56:27soapso yes.
14:57:08Buschelok, then this issue was dumb error :)
14:57:24Buschel(which is good as this can be easily fixed)
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15:01:14Buschelso, this should work properly now -> http://pastie.org/1421328
15:08:17soapv13 = 83.5 / 335.0 fps again, no text corruption.
15:16:30Buschelgood, updates FS #11843. now I only need a verification for iPod color (by [Saint]?)
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16:04:41Buschelsoap: another refactoring (simplify loops for YUV updates) -> http://pastie.org/1421416
16:04:52Buschelsoap: do you still have got some time for this?
16:05:20soapjust a few more minutes, I need to go to the gym
16:05:47Buschelthen let's hope there is no issue ;)
16:09:23soapv14 result: 84.0, 335.5
16:10:08soapI forget which one now was "too fast for [Saint]'s ipod screen", but it was still significantly faster.
16:10:08Buschelmovies play fine?
16:10:49soapI believe so. We need a new test file.
16:10:52Buschelsoap: v10 was too fast
16:11:12Buschelyou have the sample videos (elephants dream)?
16:11:14soapthe current encodes of elephant's dream have too many artifacts.
16:11:33soapfine for legacy testing of fps, but worthless for looking for flaws.
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16:12:05Buschelwell, if the code is not working properly the artifacts would be obvious and distracting
16:12:30Buschellike the screen shots you've sent me in the past days
16:12:53soapI hear you and know what you mean, but I consider the current state "obvious and distracting"! ;)
16:18:13Buschelyou're talking of elephants dream in general and not of the last patch?
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16:29:34soapyes, sorry, did not intent to confuse. I find the Nano screen irritating to watch because of its poor off-axis response and I find (at least the) Rockbox Nano encodes of Elephant's Dream very distracting to watch carefully because of the significant artifacting.
16:29:44soaps/intent/intend/
16:30:09Buschelunderstood
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17:19:49BuschelSaint: (for the logs) can you please check what lcd_type your iPod color has? this can be seen in the debug menu under "View HW info"
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18:02:38*TheSeven starts playing around with an iPod Classic Rockbox build! \o/
18:03:04TheSevenit's still locking up before I see anything on the LCD
18:03:15TheSevenbut I'm pretty sure I'll figure out the cause soon
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18:05:44TheSevenhm, it reaches main()
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19:06:08BuschelTheSeven: what is so bad with it?
19:06:54TheSevenif i knew that
19:07:12TheSevensomething in your LCD asm locks up on the ipod classic, and i have absolutely no idea why
19:07:36TheSeveni bet the root cause isn't in your code though :)
19:07:46Buschelwhich function in detail? and copied from which driver?
19:07:54Dreamxtremebest update the status on the home page then :D
19:08:02TheSevenlcd_write_line from nano2g
19:08:37Buschelthe C code is comparable for both targets?
19:10:05TheSeventhe LCD controller core seems to be identical, just at a different AHB address
19:10:11Buschelsomething wrong with the alignment?
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19:10:17TheSevenno idea
19:10:38Buschelis there working c code available?
19:10:40TheSevenwith caches enabled, it seems to lock up at "ldr lr, [r2, #0x1C]", with caches disabled it doesn't lock up but doesn't influence the lcd contents either
19:10:57TheSevenyes, but that C code works in a totally different way
19:11:19TheSevenhttp://websvn.freemyipod.org/filedetails.php?repname=freemyipod&path=%2Fembios%2Ftrunk%2Ftarget%2Fipodnano3g%2Flcd.c
19:11:40TheSeven(that's using DMA)
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19:14:29Buschelok, totally different approach...
19:14:43TheSevenyep, i just offload it all to the hardware
19:15:45Buschelwhy not keep using DMA for the classic port?
19:16:07TheSevenbecause we would need to block for DMA completion anyway
19:16:34TheSevenrockbox can't handle double buffering right now, neither for audio nor video
19:16:43TheSevenfor audio i used some hack, but for video it isn't that easy
19:17:09Buschelyou're right
19:18:57Buschelare you sure the lock up is in "ldr lr, [r2, ...]" and not in the command before?
19:22:36TheSeveni branched out of the code immediately before and after that instruction, and if the branch was before it, it worked (and resetted the SoC), if it was after the instruction it didn't seem to be reached
19:27:37Buschelstrange
19:28:23TheSevenwell, as the caches had an impact, I'd expect something with my MMU setup to be wrong
19:28:36TheSevenbut even with a disabled MMU it still doesn't show anything on the LCD
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20:25:11CIA-7New commit by Buschel (r28938): Save some binsize in LCD driver of iPod nano 2G. No impact to speed.
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21:01:58TheSevenYEEEEEAAAAAHHH!!!!
21:02:20*Buschel wonders if this a good or bad sign
21:02:20TheSevenrockbox logo on the screen, followed by "ATA error: -22\n\nPress ON to debug"
21:02:29Buschelgood sign :)
21:03:09Buschelwhat was the trick?
21:03:12TheSevenhowever only if i replace your ASM code with something more stupid
21:03:30TheSeven for (y = y0; y <= y1; y++)
21:03:30TheSeven for (x = x0; x <= x1; x++)
21:03:30TheSeven s5l_lcd_write_data(lcd_framebuffer[y][x]);
21:03:33TheSeventhis does the trick
21:03:51Buschelthe old code
21:04:07Buschelisn't it?
21:04:12TheSevenbasically yes
21:04:21TheSeveni can't see any obvious difference though
21:04:57Buschelwell, the alignment is critical. x must be even and width must be a multiple of 4 to use my asm code
21:05:08TheSevenbut i'll probably go after the ATA error first, no that i have a working lcd driver to print debug info
21:05:29TheSevenBuschel: if that doesn't hold true, it should at least do *something*
21:05:36TheSeventhe LCD didn't show any reaction at all
21:05:44Buschelbut this should not lead to a crash like you described...
21:08:55Buschelhmm, and s5l_lcd_write_data polls for (STATUS & 0x10) each pixel and not for (STATUS & 0x08) each 4 pixels.
21:09:25*Buschel spots an error in a comment
21:10:20CIA-7New commit by Buschel (r28940): Fix comment.
21:11:32Buschelhowever, you're able to proceed with other stuff now
21:12:15CIA-7r28940 build result: All green
21:14:16TheSevenBuschel: but even if that fifo check doesn't work right, i would at least expect some garbage on the screen
21:14:33TheSeventhe CPU is running with caches disabled, so at a ridiculously slow speed
21:14:41TheSevenyou could remove the fifo checks altogether and it wouldn't matter
21:15:03Buschelif the FIFO registers work the same...
21:19:10Buschelwhat does the S5L8702 do, if you access a 2-byte aligned address with a 4-byte read?
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21:33:37saratogaBuschel: IIRC unaligned loads with ldr generate an error, while unaligned loads with ldm just return the lower aligned word on armv5
21:34:55Buschelok, would also not explain TheSeven's experiences (as your 2nd case is relevant)...
21:35:44TheSevendepends on some cp15 setting IIRC
21:36:29Torneif you have alignment faults on it faults, otherwise it returns the wrong data rotated
21:37:10Torneyou get the wrong data whether you se ldr or ldm
21:37:31TheSevenTorne: what do you think about the ATA changes btw?
21:37:36TheSevenhttp://pastie.org/1421150
21:38:25Torneseems sensible..
21:38:57TheSeveni might have broken it in some places wrt. endianness
21:39:42TheSevenespecially line 365 of the paste
21:40:23Torneer, i can't really have a thorough look atm, just passing throgh :)
21:44:03thomasjfoxhey
21:44:24thomasjfoxcould any of the devs have a quick look at a patch I'd like to upstream?
21:45:30thomasjfoxIt's really small
21:45:34thomasjfoxhttp://repo.or.cz/w/maemo-rb.git/commitdiff/eeb6d692b209f2a6f74de05e863f5d8af999c218
21:50:11gevaertsthomasjfox: I'm not sure if I like the general idea
21:50:52thomasjfoxgevaerts: What do you prefer?
21:51:11thomasjfoxgevaerts: Right now we have non-working menus in the app build
21:51:16gevaertsI know
21:51:35thomasjfoxOr non-working picture flow menu entries
21:51:42gevaertsBut I think that technically a rockbox build with non-working credits is a license violation
21:52:24gevaertsAs long as this is a temporary issue, I don't think people will have a problem with that, but this patch seems to make that a permanent "feature
21:52:27gevaerts"
21:52:50thomasjfoxso maybe credits should be a core function instead of a plugin?
21:52:56thomasjfoxthere are other targets without plugins, too
21:53:44saratogai thought we wanted at least some plugins on app builds (e.g. fft, etc)
21:54:08gevaertsWell, as long as it's "plugins don't work yet", I think that's fine. And not having games is also fine
21:54:23gevaertsBut "no plugins" as an end goal isn't
21:54:39thomasjfox"No plugins" is not the desired end goal, that's for sure
21:54:49thomasjfoxI already got them working somewhat, it's still very broken
21:55:09TheSevenhm. our arm-elf-eabi-gcc isn't exactly clever
21:55:31gevaertsSo the question is "Do we want in-progress ports to be able to look complete?"?
21:55:37soapBuschel, latest YUV = 84.0 / 335.5 / no corruption
21:55:42gevaertsMy personal answer would be "Why?
21:55:44gevaerts"
21:56:07thomasjfoxThe more it looks working, the better?
21:56:16gevaertsIs it?
21:56:28thomasjfoxI don't want to show features to the user which just crash. Users will click on it
21:56:30gevaertsIf it *looks* finished, why would anyone try to fix the remaining bits?
21:56:53gevaertsDoes it crash?
21:56:53Buschelsoap: v16 ?
21:57:08thomasjfoxThe picture flow menu outputs a very ugly error message
21:57:15thomasjfoxSame for the credits screen
21:57:41gevaertsWhat does it say? A "plugin error" splash?
21:57:56thomasjfoxLet me just re-enable plugins ;)
21:59:32soapBuschel, yes, v16
21:59:42thomasjfox"failed to load /opt/rockbox/lib/rockbox/rocks/demos/pictureflow.rock"
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22:00:04gevaertsright
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22:00:37thomasjfoxhmm
22:00:48Buschelsoap: thanks! I now _really_ need Saint for further testing on iPod Color/Photo... I would like to submit this stuff :)
22:01:53gevaertsI can see your point for the pictureflow thing, but I'd say a "DISABLE_PICTUREFLOW_INTEGRATION" define in config/application.h (possibly #ifdeffed) is cleaner
22:02:19gevaertsI don't think having the Credits menu item go away is a good idea though
22:02:29gevaerts(even if it gives an error)
22:02:59thomasjfoxOk. Almost the same idea: Keep the patch like it is except for the credits part?
22:04:51thomasjfoxIdea for the future: Provide a minimal non-plugin credits screen
22:05:32gevaertsWhy? What's wrong with having it as a plugin?
22:05:57thomasjfoxSo we have a credits screen if for whatever reason the plugins are disabled?
22:06:10thomasjfoxJust as an alternative
22:07:06gevaertsDisabled plugins should really be a temporary state while developing, just like e.g. having no LCD driver yet
22:07:49gevaerts(note: "enabled plugins" is not the same as "we build all games")
22:08:38thomasjfoxThat is true, see this one (which is hopefully temporary): http://repo.or.cz/w/maemo-rb.git/commitdiff/67edd22cca548e677e24f0b8237717e7a21d3e2f
22:09:16gevaertsYou're allowed to reorder entries if that makes things more readable :)
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22:11:19OghamHi all, I don't suppose anyone here owns a Sansa Clip+ ?
22:11:53AlexPjust ask any questions
22:13:11OghamJust a random query, my Clip+ makes a loud creaking noise when I hold/press the right hand corner lightly.. I was just wondering if other people have noticed this on theirs, or if mine may have been damaged in transit?
22:13:33gevaertsAlexP: did you see http://www.rockbox.org/irc/log-20101230#23:12:42 ?
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22:14:33AlexPgevaerts: no
22:14:57AlexPgevaerts: But I'd say if it works, get it in, do a 3.7.2 and then that is probably the last before 3.8
22:15:04AlexPunless anything massive comes up
22:15:20gevaertsbertrik: ping
22:15:20LloreanOgham: I don't know what you mean by "right hand corner" since there's two corners on the right side, but neither of them make any loud noises when I squeeze lightly.
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22:16:31OghamLlorean: Oops, yes I meant to add 'bottom' to that, thanks for checking.. I'm not sure if I should return it or not, it works without any issue, rockbox is great on it :)
22:17:26OghamI'm a little concerned about having my IE-8's plugged in if the unit has taken a beating!
22:18:46gevaertsOgham: just to clarify, does the case (i.e. the plastic) make this noise, or is it on the headphones?
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22:19:36gevaertsIf it's in anything electrical, and you can return it, I think that's the best option. This is the sort of thing that may easily get worse over time
22:19:59Oghamgevaerts: Its the casing of the Clip+, just holding it there in normal use causes a nasty creaking sound and there is some movement..
22:21:24Buschelanother candidate for a 3.7.2 is FS #11830. it can be submitted with some proper nano1g-ifdefing to not touch other targets.
22:21:32Oghamother than that there does not seem to be anything wrong, but if Llorean does not notice the same thing.. I think I'll see if I can return it :(
22:22:19gevaertsBuschel: that's not in trunk yet I think?
22:22:30thomasjfoxgevaerts: http://repo.or.cz/w/maemo-rb.git/commitdiff/6fef275a8c20882ae3f10bc76f241ff84a2425b5
22:22:40LloreanOgham: There's not really any movement in mine either.
22:22:43Buschelnot yet. might submit this next week, if there are no side effects reported
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22:23:45OghamLlorean: So the whole thing feels pretty solid to you?
22:24:09LloreanOgham: Yeah, no real give anywhere.
22:24:34OghamLlorean: ah well, better see if I can get this one exchanged :( Thanks for checking for me!
22:24:35LloreanI mean the plastic flexes a little if I press down on the word "sansa" but that's not what you're talking about, I'm sure
22:24:43Buschelgevaerts: when would 3.8 most likely be branched off?
22:24:48saratogaanyone notice that none of the gigabeat players can be "ejected" in windows, but the sansa players can (when using rockbox USB)?
22:24:49saratogawhy is that
22:25:19AlexPBuschel: See the Rockbox calendar!
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22:25:46AlexPBuschel: https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=rockbox.calendar@gmail.com
22:26:10gevaertssaratoga: the last few lines of firmware/usbstack/usb_storage.c
22:26:48BuschelAlexP: cool, didn't knwo about this
22:26:58gevaertsPersonally I think any drive that's not hotswap in rockbox itself shouldn't be marked as removable, but I seem to be the only one in the world to think that way
22:26:58AlexPBuschel, gevaerts: And yeah, I think FS #11830 should be OK, but it should go in trunk for a while first to check it all out :)
22:27:08OghamLlorean: nope, just the bottom right corner, I'm guessing a clip inside is broken..
22:27:10AlexPBuschel: I sent two emails to -dev about it! :P
22:27:15wah_wah_69Hi everyone! I've just found that my player (packard bell vibe 300) uses
22:27:26OghamThanks again, have a good new year all :)
22:27:26wah_wah_69crap this irc client
22:27:32saratogagevaerts: well its nice to be able to unmount the disk easily in windows
22:27:40Lloreangevaerts: That makes sense to me. If you can't re-insert it without replugging the cable, don't mark it as "removable" basically?
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22:28:08Lloreansaratoga: I can still safely remove hardware on my gigabeat, I just don't have an "eject" option in the right click menu.
22:28:20wah_wah_69I mean my packard bell player seems to use portal player 5020, or at least has mi4 file with the name pp5020.mi4 on the system directory
22:28:20gevaertsWell, that "removable" bit really is about the media, not the SCSI device
22:28:42saratogaLlorean: yes thats what i'm refering to
22:28:49wah_wah_69I've open it as text
22:28:56gevaertsSCSI hotswap (which USB basically provides) is really distinct for removable media drives
22:30:11wah_wah_69It seems to use PP5020AF, the thing is I'd like to post about this in the forum, and I'm not sure where to post
22:30:27saratogaalso, does the GBS charge off USB?
22:30:34Torneyes
22:30:34LloreanYes.
22:30:39Tornebut not if it's flat
22:30:46LloreanIt has to be "on" to charge.
22:30:46Torneit has to boot up successfully first
22:30:53LloreanUnlike the F. =/
22:31:20gevaertswah_wah_69: a new thread in New Ports I'd say (unless there is an existing one, but I don't think so)
22:32:20wah_wah_69gevaerts, I must be blind or something, I didn't notice that subforum
22:33:09wah_wah_69I'm tempted to try the mi4 from iriver h10, there's no risk as long as I have a backup of the original mi4, right?
22:33:38AlexPUnless it is identical hardware it won't work
22:35:02wah_wah_69it uses the same chip from portal player, 5020, maybe a different revision hence the AF ending in the text from the firmware
22:35:10AlexPand all the other hardware?
22:35:23AlexPAnd is everything connected up the same?
22:35:52AlexPAnd ...
22:36:10wah_wah_69I'm not sure, haven't even tried to open it.
22:36:44Torneit will only work if the player is literally identical apart from the plastics
22:37:04Tornebeing similar makes it less work to do a port, but you still need to do a port
22:37:05gevaertsthomasjfox: that (well, I'm looking at 229da89f31cbe13bf5b32e9ce559e9c27563105f..3fae73d38325395cb4a3512d37f0ffd72c676d71 now) looks reasonable. I'm still not sure about it (the entire HAVE_PLUGINS thing) though, but maybe I'm alone there...
22:37:05wah_wah_69I'll make a post in the forum with as many details as I can about this player (vibe 300), i'll try to open it later
22:37:09saratogawah_wah_69: do you have any experience with programming hardware devices?
22:37:19wah_wah_69Yeah
22:37:38wah_wah_69I'm finishing my degree in computer engineering
22:37:50saratogathen this should be a fun project
22:38:02saratogabut you've picked a really obscure device so you're probably on your own
22:38:44gevaertsIf you're lucky, it might be similar to the vibe 500?
22:39:49wah_wah_69lets suppouse the vibe 300 bootloader is similar to the vibe 500, so its already known, and the portal player chip is well understood, apart from that what's left to figure out? all the remaning glue logic?
22:39:52thomasjfoxgevaerts: Don't keep your mind occupied with HAVE_PLUGINS. In the end that patch is going to die, atleast for maemo
22:40:20gevaertsthomasjfox: I hope so :)
22:40:20thomasjfoxgevaerts: I'm just doing another binary .deb build with plugins enabled. If all goes well (doesn't crash/hang), I'll push it out soon.
22:40:26gevaertsNice
22:40:40thomasjfoxPeople are really happy with rockbox on the n900
22:41:05thomasjfoxStuff like "Where should I send my firstborn?" is mentioned ;)
22:42:56thomasjfoxgevaerts: Maybe I asked this before, do you own a n8xx device?
22:43:01gevaertsI don't
22:43:11thomasjfoxI'm wonderin how high the CPU usage might be
22:43:17gevaertsI know petur has one though, and IIRC soap as well
22:50:45soapcorrect
22:51:20soappeople on maemo.org are happy whenever the benevolent gods drop crumbs in their direction. ;)
22:52:24gevaertsWell, only if you keep dropping crumbs
22:52:42gevaertsAs soon as you don't drop a crumb one week, you'll know what they *really* think :)
22:53:45thomasjfoxsoap: Would you have time to play around with the maemo port on a n8xx?
22:53:55thomasjfoxI'll have a new build up in about 20min
22:54:05soapsure, If I can recall how to install apps on it!
22:54:10thomasjfoxdpkg -i ;)
22:54:28soapI need to run an errand, I'll be back in about 90 minutes, I'll highlight you then.
22:54:58thomasjfoxok
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23:14:40thomasjfoxkugel: Seen my message in the irc log? ;)
23:14:53kugelyep
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23:17:36thomasjfoxkugel: The app_* and sim_* wrapper layer leave room for improvement. The plugins have again trouble saving their config as they want to write to the "rocks" dir...
23:17:55thomasjfoxkugel: Maybe we can unify the file functions?
23:21:54kugelunify how?
23:23:09thomasjfoxmaybe have just one open function which does the /.rockbox/ path expansion?
23:23:24kugelare there more than one?
23:23:43thomasjfoxapp_open calls sim_open which also does some kind of path transformation IIRC
23:23:56kugelonly on the sim though
23:24:40kugeland android doesn't call sim_open()
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23:24:51thomasjfoxkugel: Have a look at firmware/common/rbpaths.c
23:25:18thomasjfoxFor PLATFORM_SDL it also calls sim_open
23:25:34kugeli mean sim_open() only transforms paths on the sim
23:26:50thomasjfoxso get_sim_pathname() is not used if APPLICATION is defined
23:28:37kugelright
23:29:14thomasjfoxhmm. Anyhow, I manage to get the plugins running and they also need path translations as I could determine via strace
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23:30:30kugeli know
23:31:13kugelwe thought some PLUGIN_DATA_DIR where plugins need write access could work
23:32:30thomasjfoxso that would map to $(HOME)/.config/rockbox.org/rocks.data?
23:34:12thomasjfoxsoap: the n8xx build can be found here: http://simonv.com/rockbox/n8xx-rockbox_3.7.2maemo2_armel.deb
23:35:03CIA-7New commit by jethead71 (r28941): Gigeabeat S: Reset DMA size info when stopping audio playback and recording transfers so that size remaing/peak buffer calls return 0/NULL when ...
23:36:58CIA-7r28941 build result: All green
23:41:00kugelthomasjfox: it's wrong to call it 3.7.2 imo
23:41:15thomasjfoxkugel: I know. 3.7.1 wasn't right either
23:41:34thomasjfoxkugel: Dunno how I can set svn version numbers with debian packaging
23:41:57thomasjfoxSo many things to fix, so little time :)
23:42:36kugelcan you run version.sh?
23:42:57thomasjfoxI need to enter the version number manually into debian/changelog
23:43:19thomasjfoxSo I would need another script that automates debian packaging
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23:44:32gevaerts3.7.2 and 3.7.1 are equally wrong I think :)
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23:45:32thomasjfoxI'll see what I can do about version.sh for the next build
23:46:44thomasjfoxbtw: Would be nice to run "make veryclean" without a full build setup
23:47:12thomasjfoxTook me a while to find out there are tools which don't get removed by "make clean"
23:47:15Tornethere are debhelper scripts to do svn/cvs/etc version numbering, i'm pretty sure
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23:48:59thomasjfoxThough the svn # is wrong also as the maemo port contains code that is not yet in subversion :o)
23:49:11AlexPgive it your own random one for now
23:49:40AlexPImplying it is either an existing release or a release that hasn't yet happened that it won't be in is not quite right :)
23:49:41gevaertsA date-based one may be best
23:49:54AlexPyes, good idea
23:49:58thomasjfoxIndeed
23:50:07thomasjfoxSimple as that
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23:56:52tuxifierhmm
23:58:47tuxifierI don't get it - got 2 identical sansa clip+ with rockbox r28932-101229 and two identical 16GB microSD cards

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