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| 00:48:34 | CIA-7 | New commit by jethead71 (r29032): SA9200: Adjust touchpad sensitivities so that actual contact with the player is needed to cause button presses and hopefully those settings will work ... |
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| 00:50:58 | CIA-7 | r29032 build result: All green |
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| 01:21:50 | JdGordon1 | no comments on the peak meters? lame |
| 01:26:10 | jhMikeS | which peak meters? |
| 01:26:33 | JdGordon1 | i put up a patch last night to make them more usable in skins |
| 01:26:53 | jhMikeS | ah |
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| 02:28:01 | scorche | Gareth: oh hai...sorry i havent gotten back to you - in the precess of moving actually |
| 02:28:33 | scorche | i dont think i will be able to do it this year...unless another rockboxer wants to join me |
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| 02:28:47 | Gareth | no one else around? |
| 02:28:54 | Gareth | You had quite a few folks that one year. |
| 02:29:15 | scorche | these sorts of things work best with at least 2 people, but there isnt anyone else i know of in the area, and after asking a few others who have been around, they cant make the trip this year |
| 02:29:31 | scorche | yeah - i nabbed some people from UT, OH, and someone who used to live in CA |
| 02:30:04 | Gareth | Okay. no worries. If you don't think it'll happen this year, understood completely. |
| 02:30:20 | scorche | i mean, i could get a few other folk to help man the booth (GF, other friends, etc), but i am the only one who really could say much about rockbox besides "it is awesome!" |
| 02:32:39 | Gareth | Nod. |
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| 03:49:51 | Unhelpful | Torne: i abandoned subpixel AA because i spent way too much time fiddling with implementation details and lost interest, and because i couldn't figure out how best to deal w/ 1) apps that want rotated rendering 2) rendering on either vertical or horizontal subpixel layout. |
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| 03:52:58 | Unhelpful | the "best" solution i could come up w/ was for fonts to store both renderings in-file and add the desired subpixel layout as another bit in the glyph cache index |
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| 08:36:05 | CIA-7 | New commit by Buschel (r29033): Fix FS #11820. Implement LCD shutdown for iPod Photo/Color and iPod nano 1G. The code was taken from FS #10034 and slightly changed to avoid white ... |
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| 08:38:46 | CIA-7 | r29033 build result: All green |
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| 09:33:04 | sideral | gevaerts, Saint: With the unmount-sync patch, my filesystem is still good after 1.5 days of intense use |
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| 10:07:37 | TheSeven | wodz: gnip |
| 10:10:07 | wodz | TheSeven: I cannot access nano2g 'disk' either in diskmode or rb. But rockbox boot fine |
| 10:11:07 | wodz | I have tons of usb reset messages in dmesg |
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| 10:22:24 | TheSeven | wodz: so you can see files in the rockbox file browser? |
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| 10:27:13 | wodz | TheSeven: yes |
| 10:28:18 | TheSeven | wodz: Interesting... I'm currently hunting down a similar problem on the iPod Classic |
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| 10:28:50 | TheSeven | seems like the combination of our USB driver, linux and USB2.0 doesn't work well |
| 10:28:59 | TheSeven | however disk mode not working doesn't fit into that pattern |
| 10:29:36 | TheSeven | the thing is that my linux box only has USB1.1, so I haven't ever seen that problem locally |
| 10:33:11 | JdGordon| | anyone want to volanteer to add %pL/R (peak meter values) to the manual? |
| 10:33:13 | JdGordon| | AlexP: ? :D |
| 10:33:42 | AlexP | yep, can do - could you stick it on flyspray with a short description and I'll do it this evening |
| 10:33:57 | wodz | and CustomWPS wiki please |
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| 10:41:20 | wodz | BTW. themeeditor seems to be unmantained |
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| 10:44:48 | JdGordon| | indeed it is |
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| 10:47:43 | wodz | that makes it mostly useless |
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| 10:51:35 | JdGordon| | a bit |
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| 10:53:52 | AlexP | I thought it was meant to be tied into the main code? Or was that just rendering and not tags or something? |
| 10:54:30 | wodz | JdGordon|: I applied FS #11867 patch and changed %pb(0,0,158,8,pb-160x128x2.bmp) with %pL(0,0,158,8,pb-160x128x2.bmp). It doesn't work |
| 10:54:38 | wodz | in cabbiev2 that is |
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| 10:56:55 | pixelma | wodz: in the FM screen there is no peakmeter available on swcodec targets I think (or won't show much) |
| 10:57:24 | wodz | wps |
| 10:57:41 | pixelma | oh sorry, nixed up your two patches |
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| 11:07:09 | wodz | n1s: ping |
| 11:07:26 | n1s | wodz: pong |
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| 11:09:10 | wodz | n1s: I inspected battery_bench from yesterday and it starts from 80% battery. This is in line with archived runtime. Currently I run another bench. |
| 11:10:13 | JdGordon| | wodz: you sure it applied? thats all i changed to test also |
| 11:10:28 | wodz | JdGordon|: yes I am sure |
| 11:10:28 | JdGordon| | have you got it set to linear or log scale? |
| 11:10:34 | n1s | wodz: ah, ok, hopefully nothing has been screwed up then :) |
| 11:11:32 | wodz | JdGordon|: ? |
| 11:11:51 | JdGordon| | %pb works though? |
| 11:13:49 | * | wodz just checking |
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| 11:17:12 | wodz | JdGordon|: %pb works %pL does not |
| 11:17:16 | pixelma | wodz: testing on a greyscale screen target? |
| 11:17:21 | wodz | yes |
| 11:17:35 | wodz | hd300 sim to be strict |
| 11:18:44 | pixelma | does a "simple" peakmeter work (maybe in the failsafe WPS)? |
| 11:19:05 | JdGordon| | wodz: silly question.... peakmeter is implemented on it? |
| 11:19:48 | wodz | failsafe WPS works as expected |
| 11:20:10 | n1s | could someone dp a test of either m5 or x5 bootloaders compiled with the new toolchain and with a small patch that fixes a warning, http://dl.dropbox.com/u/17484767/m5_fw.bin http://dl.dropbox.com/u/17484767/x5_fw.bin |
| 11:20:16 | n1s | s/dp/do/ |
| 11:20:50 | * | JdGordon| will "quickly" compile a hd300 sim then |
| 11:20:54 | wodz | JdGordon|: hmm do I miss something fundamental? |
| 11:20:54 | JdGordon| | back in 4 hours |
| 11:21:40 | JdGordon| | maybe |
| 11:21:55 | JdGordon| | although if the failsafe one works then it should work |
| 11:22:03 | JdGordon| | I really didnt add much code to do it |
| 11:24:51 | wodz | %pm in the place of %pb or %pL works also in cabbie |
| 11:31:37 | wodz | pixelma: Maybe you will know - what and where should I add to automatically install cabbiev2.fms + fmbackdrop graphic on suitable devices? |
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| 11:35:23 | pixelma | I guess you need to adjust wpsbuild.pl and then WPSLIST (both in the wps folder). I further guess that you also need to add something else to have it automatically selected as default if the fms is there, can't tell you where though. Maybe you could find something by searching through the cabbiev2 files' SVN history |
| 11:38:14 | wodz | thanks |
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| 11:58:29 | JdGordon| | wodz: wierd... |
| 11:58:39 | JdGordon| | hd300 isnt hwcodec is it? |
| 11:59:17 | wodz | it is SWCODEC |
| 11:59:49 | JdGordon| | have you tried on the actual target? |
| 11:59:55 | wodz | no |
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| 12:00:05 | wodz | it is running battery_bench now |
| 12:00:06 | JdGordon| | no ignore that.. %pm works and %pL doesnt? |
| 12:00:10 | wodz | yes |
| 12:00:11 | JdGordon| | that makes no bloody sense |
| 12:03:07 | JdGordon| | WTF? its now working |
| 12:03:55 | wodz | ? |
| 12:04:29 | JdGordon| | I'm randomly changing text lines and it is working |
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| 12:07:26 | wodz | I love such bugs |
| 12:08:02 | JdGordon| | I dont! |
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| 12:52:18 | wodz | there is no support for .fms in wpsbuild.pl at all :/ |
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| 12:57:09 | PurlingNayuki | Is there a Cabbie V2 style fms? |
| 12:59:05 | wodz | I just done one for 160x128x2 |
| 12:59:28 | wodz | and I try to figure out how to add it properly |
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| 13:01:47 | PurlingNayuki | I don't know about it at all. |
| 13:02:07 | PurlingNayuki | I only know how to add C files properly. |
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| 13:25:37 | JdGordon| | AlexP: FS #11867... %rL is used exactly like %pv/bl.. i.e value, bar or condtioional... |
| 13:25:50 | JdGordon| | %pL is left meter, %pR is right meter |
| 13:26:25 | [Saint] | nice, it's in now? |
| 13:26:42 | wodz | JdGordon|: have you tracked down the problem with pL/pR ? |
| 13:26:42 | [Saint] | iLike+ is about to get some more alternate sexy things. |
| 13:26:57 | JdGordon| | it was going to be, but wodz' problem is stopping me from commiting |
| 13:27:08 | Stummi | hm, i am trying to get in the application build atm. So as first try i selected the application-build in the configure-dialoge, then Android, the default values for width and height and simulator build. Make gives me a lot of warnings and exits with an error then |
| 13:27:15 | [Saint] | sorry, slept all day. missed it. |
| 13:27:27 | pixelma | Stummi: which OS? |
| 13:27:35 | Stummi | Debian |
| 13:27:42 | [Saint] | Stummi: Android app, or SDL? |
| 13:27:53 | Stummi | Android, as i said ;) |
| 13:28:04 | [Saint] | did you run the toolchain scripts? |
| 13:28:24 | wodz | JdGordon|: and btw you seems to touch wpsbuild.pl from time to time - could you look at .fms support there? This perl thing is far beyond my skills |
| 13:28:32 | Torne | you dno't want a simulator build, also.. |
| 13:28:34 | Stummi | [Saint], no, how do i this? |
| 13:28:43 | Torne | read android/README |
| 13:28:51 | Torne | it explains how to set up your environment and build |
| 13:29:11 | [Saint] | you need to run installApk and installToolchain |
| 13:29:26 | [Saint] | or, README is a good bet too ;) |
| 13:29:31 | [Saint] | thanks Torne |
| 13:30:04 | n1s | Zagor: did you push the rbclient update? |
| 13:30:04 | [Saint] | all those things are in rockbox/android |
| 13:30:50 | Zagor | n1s: ah no, I meant to do it last night but forgot |
| 13:31:24 | Zagor | I'll try to remember tonight |
| 13:31:28 | n1s | ok |
| 13:32:04 | JdGordon| | installToolchain is wrong |
| 13:32:16 | JdGordon| | it doesnt install the required sdk/ndk |
| 13:32:24 | JdGordon| | wodz: :'( dont make me do that! |
| 13:32:41 | [Saint] | I thought it was changed to install the correct one? |
| 13:32:53 | [Saint] | errr...r5? |
| 13:33:08 | wodz | JdGordon|: who should I bugg than? |
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| 13:33:18 | JdGordon| | dunno :D |
| 13:34:09 | Stummi | erm... |
| 13:34:12 | Stummi | export $ANDROID_SDK_PATH=/home/mst/android-sdk-linux_x86 |
| 13:34:12 | Stummi | export $ANDROID_NDK_PATH=/home/mst/android-ndk-r5 |
| 13:34:16 | Stummi | this is wrong :) |
| 13:34:26 | Stummi | the $ shouldn't be there |
| 13:34:52 | Torne | indeed |
| 13:36:17 | [Saint] | ok...I'm having a total search-fail here...anyone got a link to the pre-built .apk's that apparently reside on the wiki? |
| 13:36:39 | Torne | http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/AndroidPort |
| 13:36:43 | Torne | at the bottom |
| 13:36:51 | [Saint] | Gah! |
| 13:36:56 | CIA-7 | New commit by stummi (r29034): corrected the export-commands on the output. It should be "export ANDROID..." and not "export $ANDROID..." |
| 13:37:05 | [Saint] | I tried pretty much every possible combo of RaaA |
| 13:37:18 | [Saint] | Thanks Torne |
| 13:37:38 | gevaerts | Stummi: you could also just do ANDROID_SDK_PATH=ANDROID_SDK_PATH first :) |
| 13:38:07 | Stummi | already r29034? Wow :) I am wondering how long it will take to revision 30000 |
| 13:38:08 | PurlingNayuki | Waiting for build result..... |
| 13:38:28 | Torne | 966 revisions. :) |
| 13:39:10 | Stummi | at the moment we have above 8-10 commits per day |
| 13:39:22 | JdGordon| | not that high |
| 13:39:35 | CIA-7 | r29034 build result: All green |
| 13:39:59 | JdGordon| | 1000 revs ago was sep 8 |
| 13:40:33 | Stummi | 4 months. |
| 13:40:48 | Stummi | so 30000 will be reached somewhen around may |
| 13:42:00 | JdGordon| | depends how active I get again :p |
| 13:42:07 | * | JdGordon| is very good at commit mulitplication |
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| 14:18:40 | PurlingNayuki | Hi every. |
| 14:18:55 | PurlingNayuki | What's the usage of make veryclean ? |
| 14:23:49 | Stummi | make help :) |
| 14:23:54 | wodz | to clean tools also |
| 14:25:28 | Bagder | make -n [whatever] is also helpful |
| 14:25:36 | Bagder | as it just shows what it would do without doing it... |
| 14:25:37 | PurlingNayuki | Thanks. Another question, there is SYSFONT in rockbox, and how can I use user font? Can I use USERFONT to instead it? |
| 14:25:50 | Stummi | I just made a working SDL-Build. Can i tell it anyway not to use my systems root as root-directory but something else? |
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| 14:26:41 | Stummi | oh, found it :) |
| 14:26:44 | Stummi | thanks anyway |
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| 14:28:55 | Stummi | hm, no, the −−root-parameter doesn't seems to work |
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| 14:45:55 | whippiii | TheSeven: are you there? I'm trying right now to install RockBox, would you help me with some problems related with WinUSB? |
| 14:47:17 | Stummi | hm, doesn't the application build plugins (games, viewers, etc)? |
| 14:49:10 | TheSeven | whippiii: what's going on? |
| 14:49:55 | whippiii | TheSeven: guide me with in the process, I'm not good at Windows xD |
| 14:50:16 | whippiii | TheSeven: look, when you say: "If a "new hardware found" wizard pops up, point it to the winusb.inf file. " |
| 14:50:22 | whippiii | what should I do? |
| 14:50:27 | TheSeven | which windows version? |
| 14:50:40 | whippiii | XP SP 3 |
| 14:50:53 | TheSeven | is the ipod in DFU mode? |
| 14:51:03 | TheSeven | do you have itunes installed? |
| 14:51:07 | TheSeven | did windows ask for a driver? |
| 14:51:27 | whippiii | iTunes is uninstalled |
| 14:51:40 | whippiii | wait lemme try again, then I'll tell you |
| 14:54:16 | whippiii | have to reboot this PC, be right back |
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| 15:04:17 | whippiii | TheSeven: I connect the iPod to the USB port and put in on DFU mode, but Windows seems to be ignoring that |
| 15:04:29 | whippiii | doesnt notice any new device |
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| 15:04:59 | TheSeven | so the display of the ipod stays dark? |
| 15:05:12 | TheSeven | do you see anything ipod-related in the device manager? |
| 15:06:08 | whippiii | then after a half minute, it gets back to the normal mode |
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| 15:14:44 | whippiii | uf |
| 15:14:58 | whippiii | this Internet connection is gonna kill me :S |
| 15:15:05 | PurlingNayuki | Why? |
| 15:15:14 | whippiii | TheSeven: how much could you read from me? |
| 15:15:22 | TheSeven | [15:06] <whippiii> then after a half minute, it gets back to the normal mode |
| 15:15:23 | TheSeven | [15:10] * whippiii (c8378cb5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.200.55.140.181) Quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) |
| 15:15:37 | whippiii | uhu |
| 15:15:47 | whippiii | that was the last line I could read |
| 15:16:16 | whippiii | Windows doesnt notice the DFU mode |
| 15:16:26 | wodz | wpsbuild.pl is extremly hard to extend |
| 15:16:50 | TheSeven | there's no "apple ipod dfu device" or something? |
| 15:16:58 | whippiii | nope |
| 15:20:38 | TheSeven | that's weird |
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| 15:20:45 | TheSeven | do you get a sound if you plug/unplug it? |
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| 15:20:54 | whippiii_ | uff |
| 15:21:09 | whippiii_ | TheSeven: disconnected again :( |
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| 15:23:10 | Nikolasz | hi |
| 15:23:39 | Nikolasz | i want to use my ipod nano winth rockbox, is there anything i can do to help out? |
| 15:24:04 | TheSeven | which generation? |
| 15:24:09 | Nikolasz | got ipod nano 4g |
| 15:24:26 | Nikolasz | 16gb |
| 15:24:28 | whippiii_ | TheSeven: when iPod gets into DFU mode, I can hear an "unplugged sound" and Explorer shows for a second an unknown device without name, but it disapears quickly |
| 15:24:29 | TheSeven | Nikolasz: do you have programming skills? |
| 15:24:45 | Nikolasz | no, i got flashing skills... |
| 15:24:53 | Nikolasz | like beta tester,lol |
| 15:24:55 | LambdaCalculus37 | Nikolasz: http://www.freemyipod.org |
| 15:25:02 | TheSeven | that won't help much currently |
| 15:25:10 | LambdaCalculus37 | Nikolasz: Rockbox doesn't work on the 4th gen nano. |
| 15:25:30 | Nikolasz | yea, i read somthing abaut that issue 4g nano need special programers |
| 15:27:08 | whippiii_ | should I give up? :S |
| 15:27:42 | Nikolasz | i got question if i flash not flash for g4 is there a way to flash to apple ipod os? |
| 15:28:05 | TheSeven | Nikolasz: we haven't even figured out how to access the flash yet |
| 15:28:29 | whippiii_ | TheSeven: got it, Windows now can see the DFU mode :) |
| 15:28:34 | TheSeven | ok |
| 15:28:45 | Nikolasz | s there tool for spy data transfet beatwin usb and 4g? |
| 15:28:47 | TheSeven | whippiii_: did it find an itunes driver somewhere or ask you for one? |
| 15:29:11 | TheSeven | Nikolasz: wireshark on linux can do that, but that won't help much currently |
| 15:29:59 | TheSeven | the next step is figuring out how to access the flash, and how to initialize all the hardware when booting through DFU |
| 15:30:04 | Nikolasz | hmm, how come is so complicated, as manufacture same data as itunes sends to ipod... |
| 15:30:41 | TheSeven | Nikolasz: the biggest problem is that there is no documentation at all |
| 15:31:00 | TheSeven | we need to figure out how all the hardware works, and that's a damn lot of hardware... |
| 15:31:06 | Nikolasz | no documents of arm processor, if it is arm inside |
| 15:31:20 | TheSeven | the ARM core itself is documented, but that's about it |
| 15:31:37 | Nikolasz | oh, |
| 15:31:40 | TheSeven | all the peripherals, be it the memory controller, display controller, power manager or whatever aren't |
| 15:31:59 | Nikolasz | what abaut memory map and ip map? |
| 15:32:05 | Nikolasz | io map |
| 15:32:36 | TheSeven | all IO on ARM is memory-mapped |
| 15:32:46 | whippiii_ | TheSeven: now it sounds "plugged" on DFU mode but doesnt pop up anything at all, I cant see any notification. Windows doesnt ask to me for new driver of something related with iTunes |
| 15:33:41 | TheSeven | we roughly know where the RAM etc. is and where all the IO stuff is, and there should be a lot of similarities to the iPod Touch 2G, for which there is a map of the base addresses of most peripherals, but we have no docs on most of the registers inside those ranges |
| 15:34:05 | TheSeven | whippiii_: anything apple-related visible in the device manager? |
| 15:34:32 | whippiii_ | TheSeven: "Apple Movile USB Driver" |
| 15:34:37 | whippiii_ | Mobile* |
| 15:34:51 | TheSeven | the screen of the ipod is dark? |
| 15:34:53 | Nikolasz | brb smoke |
| 15:34:55 | whippiii_ | Apple Mobile Device USB DRiver |
| 15:35:03 | whippiii_ | TheSeven: yes, it's dark |
| 15:35:16 | TheSeven | ok, then take that entry and choose "update driver" |
| 15:35:56 | TheSeven | choose the bottom option on the next steps of the wizard (specifying everything yourself, and not letting it search itself) |
| 15:36:06 | TheSeven | search by itself* |
| 15:36:52 | TheSeven | if it asks you for a device category, choose "all devices" |
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| 15:37:15 | TheSeven | then if it asks you select from that huge list of vendors and drivers, choose "have disk" and point it to winusb-xp.inf |
| 15:38:34 | whippiii_ | wait |
| 15:40:34 | Nikolasz | is there any diferende betwin 1.0.2 1.03 1.04 data comunication with pc and g4 nano ? |
| 15:40:42 | whippiii_ | TheSeven: oh, it isnt working, maybe because I must use Internet through a proxy server :( |
| 15:41:14 | TheSeven | what isn't working? IRC? |
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| 15:42:38 | wodz | I give up - I don't think there is simple, elegant way to extend wpsbuild.pl to install .fms correctly |
| 15:43:24 | whippiii_ | TheSeven: the wizzard for hardware updating gets frozen, searching on Internet, 'cause there's a proxy server... |
| 15:43:37 | TheSeven | it shouldn't search on the internet |
| 15:43:44 | TheSeven | always select the bottom-most option |
| 15:44:27 | whippiii_ | done |
| 15:44:50 | whippiii_ | TheSeven: but the wizzard ends with the message: An error ocurred during the installation of the device |
| 15:44:51 | whippiii_ | :S |
| 15:45:06 | wodz | TheSeven: Regarding my issues with nano2g and usb - I think I have similar problem with my mini1g. That would mean that my laptop is (partially?) responsible for this. |
| 15:45:12 | TheSeven | did it ask you for the location of the driver? |
| 15:45:21 | whippiii_ | yes |
| 15:45:21 | TheSeven | if not, you made some mistake somewhere |
| 15:45:24 | TheSeven | ok |
| 15:45:34 | TheSeven | and it didn't accept winusb-xp.inf? |
| 15:45:46 | TheSeven | did you extract that into the same folder where winusb.inf is? |
| 15:45:51 | TheSeven | if yes, delete winusb.inf and retry |
| 15:46:08 | whippiii_ | oh |
| 15:46:09 | whippiii_ | wait |
| 15:46:10 | whippiii_ | hehe |
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| 15:47:07 | wodz | TheSeven: If I boot Apple firmware from iloader and connect USB the volume appears twice |
| 15:47:51 | TheSeven | huh? |
| 15:47:58 | TheSeven | that's funny :) |
| 15:50:26 | wodz | running fsck on this voluem gives me warning: There is no backup boot sector. |
| 15:50:38 | wodz | TheSeven: is it normal? ^ |
| 15:50:40 | TheSeven | yep |
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| 15:50:58 | wodz | so ignore it and run without backup? |
| 15:51:05 | TheSeven | yes |
| 15:51:56 | whippiii_ | TheSeven: it seems like device manager got frozen, doesnt see any DFU now :( it emits a quickly double unpuggled sound |
| 15:52:51 | whippiii_ | I dont know why firstly it showed Apple Mobile Device USB Driver while iPod was in DFU mode |
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| 15:58:01 | Stummi | hm, when i make a application build (SDL) it doesn't build plugins. Does Somebody have an idea why? |
| 15:58:21 | wodz | n1s: battery_bench ended after 16:39 and discharge curve is exactly like for builds with old gcc. |
| 15:58:26 | LambdaCalculus37 | Stummi: Which platform? |
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| 15:58:45 | Nikolasz | the7 you kmow all abaut 4g nano i se you all over net |
| 15:58:51 | [Saint] | plugins would need all the screen resize magic? no? |
| 15:59:01 | Stummi | LambdaCalculus37, what do you mean? I am building on debian |
| 15:59:03 | pixelma | LambdaCalculus37: it is in his question... |
| 15:59:37 | LambdaCalculus37 | Stummi: Oops, sorry. Misread. |
| 15:59:42 | Stummi | np :) |
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| 16:00:09 | [Saint] | some plugins should work in theory, but the rest would need magic to resize bitmaps which we don't have. |
| 16:00:18 | Stummi | overall, application build could be documented a bit better *g* |
| 16:00:49 | whippiii_ | TheSeven: doesnt exist the way to install rockbox from Linux? |
| 16:01:25 | TheSeven | whippiii_: http://www.freemyipod.org/wiki/Talk:IPod_Classic_iLoader_Installation#Other_Platforms |
| 16:02:12 | Stummi | [Saint], no one is builded here. /usr/local/lib/rockbox/rocks/*/ are all empty except of the data-files ( e.g. sokoban.levels ) |
| 16:02:47 | [Saint] | plugins are probably disabled. |
| 16:02:48 | Stummi | and the apps-directory in the build dir doesn't have this plugins too |
| 16:02:55 | [Saint] | I've never actually tried to use any. |
| 16:02:57 | Stummi | how can i enable them? |
| 16:04:07 | [Saint] | I'm not entirely certain, it's probably a bit much expecting the same level of functionality as the sim due to dynamic screen sizing. |
| 16:04:21 | whippiii_ | TheSeven: I'll switch to Linux and try that way, be right back, sorry for all the problems I've give you trying to install Rockbox |
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| 16:08:09 | LambdaCalculus37 | TheSeven: Did a little checking out of the HW Info on my iPod Classic; I've got LCD type 1 in mine. |
| 16:10:04 | whippiii_ | TheSeven: that Python script, how can I use it from Linux? |
| 16:10:26 | TheSeven | sudo python ipoddfu.py bootstrap-ipodclassic.dfu |
| 16:11:15 | whippiii_ | okay |
| 16:11:47 | whippiii_ | TheSeven: and... the .dfu file, where is it? |
| 16:12:00 | TheSeven | http://files.freemyipod.org/misc/bootstrap-ipodclassic.dfu |
| 16:12:57 | whippiii_ | 18 kb? |
| 16:13:16 | whippiii_ | TheSeven: does it use Internet access to install the main program? |
| 16:13:34 | TheSeven | no, it doesn't, and 18kB is fine |
| 16:14:28 | * | pixelma isn't too happy about the actual language string behind LANG_AUTORESUME_ENABLE_YES |
| 16:14:35 | whippiii_ | it means: on linux, I can install Rockbox using: that Python script and the .dfu file? |
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| 16:16:04 | whippiii_ | TheSeven: I'm only comparing the Windows installer: 3.3 mb with these little 18 kb :S |
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| 16:19:27 | TheSeven | that .dfu file is contained in the .exe, which is rather small |
| 16:19:41 | TheSeven | the big .ubi file will be needed on linux as well, you'll need to copy that to the UMSboot volume |
| 16:19:48 | TheSeven | (as on windows) |
| 16:20:03 | TheSeven | and the other huge files are the winusb driver core :) |
| 16:20:23 | whippiii_ | ok, gonna copy .ubi and switch to linux |
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| 16:22:24 | sideral | pixelma: What's the problem with the lang string, and do you have a suggestion for improving it? |
| 16:22:29 | [Saint] | is there no touchscreen area for hold?!? |
| 16:23:06 | pixelma | [Saint]: how would you switch it, especially off? |
| 16:23:49 | [Saint] | Hmmm...good point. |
| 16:26:58 | pixelma | sideral: I don't like that it contains "(requires initialised database" - is this really something a user needs to always see in the menu? I would imagine that a generic yes/no would be used there and then on enabling an internal check could happen if it already is enabled, if not the user could get a splash to initialise it. That's my personal feel at the moment |
| 16:26:58 | sideral | pixelma: What's the problem with the LANG_AUTORESUME_ENABLE_YES lang string, and do you have a suggestion for improving it? |
| 16:28:11 | pixelma | of course you could discuss this in a "the user is informed beforehand" way, but if the changes happen to just add the affected tracks to the database then this string might become outdated anyway (in its current form) |
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| 16:29:45 | sideral | Yes, it's kind of ugly. But I'd like to set expectations before the user changes anything. On the other hand, I don't care too much and would be fine with the error splash as well |
| 16:30:39 | sideral | I guess even if we add support for incremental DB extensions, the DB still needs to be in some initialized state |
| 16:31:57 | sideral | I think it will be no problem to just deprecate the string should we ever not need it any more |
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| 16:32:45 | sideral | did you mean an error-message splash or a splash prompt line "initialize now?"? |
| 16:32:55 | sideral | s/line/like/ |
| 16:33:29 | whippiii | TheSeven: I'm on Linux and the iPod is on DFU mode, what I have to do is just execute python ipoddfu.py with root permission? |
| 16:33:47 | whippiii | TheSeven: I've located the .dfu and ibu file on the same folder |
| 16:33:54 | TheSeven | yes, assuming you have all the neccessary prerequisites installed |
| 16:34:01 | whippiii | together with .py files |
| 16:34:03 | TheSeven | (python, libusb and pyusb >=1.0.0a1) |
| 16:34:17 | whippiii | yes |
| 16:34:26 | whippiii | gonna try, lemme cross my fingers xD |
| 16:36:29 | pixelma | sideral: hmm, good question |
| 16:37:50 | whippiii | TheSeven: is pyusb the same thing that python-usb on Ubuntu? |
| 16:38:28 | whippiii | TheSeven: I've installed python-usb and usb module hasnt the same components you use on libipoddfu |
| 16:38:35 | whippiii | usb.core doesnt exist |
| 16:38:43 | whippiii | but usb exists |
| 16:39:20 | TheSeven | [16:34] <TheSeven> (python, libusb and pyusb >=1.0.0a1) |
| 16:39:30 | TheSeven | this looks like you're using pyusb 0.1 |
| 16:39:34 | whippiii | ohh |
| 16:39:39 | whippiii | I see |
| 16:39:40 | whippiii | sorry |
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| 16:40:29 | sideral | Apropos autoresume: I believe saratoga's HWCODEC fix after the autoresume commit has a small error (a misplaced #endif breaks playback statistics for HWCODEC). He's busy and hasn't gotten to around to fix it yet. Anyone care to commit the fix? http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11748?getfile=23087 |
| 16:40:37 | [Saint] | sideral: "Error: Database is not initialized - Initialize now? Yes/No" |
| 16:40:47 | [Saint] | (not one one line, if it can be avoided) |
| 16:41:03 | [Saint] | I think that's a fairly elegant solution. |
| 16:41:39 | whippiii | TheSeven: just to be sure: once I've installed RockBox and something goes wrong, can I get back the former AppleOS? |
| 16:42:30 | TheSeven | no warranty for anything, but you should be able to uninstall iloader and restore using itunes |
| 16:42:42 | whippiii | ok |
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| 16:45:18 | sideral | pixelma, Saint: I'll ponder this for a while and will come up with a patch if I don't find a good reason not to. Anyone of you care enough to put this up for discussion in FS #11748? |
| 16:46:05 | [Saint] | If I remember, I'll add a link to the IRC log on that tracker |
| 16:46:22 | sideral | thanks |
| 16:46:32 | whippiii | TheSeven: upload finished, the iPod shows a prompt asking for me to copy the UBI file, where do I have to copy it? |
| 16:47:10 | TheSeven | to the USB mass storage device that just connected |
| 16:47:23 | pixelma | sideral: the patch you posted right before - do I read correctly that the "gather runtime data" option doesn't appear on hwcodec builds at all currently? |
| 16:47:38 | pixelma | I could try actually, but... |
| 16:47:49 | pixelma | haven't updated in a while |
| 16:48:15 | whippiii | TheSeven: I think I must mount it manually... |
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| 16:48:30 | whippiii | TheSeven: fdisk doesnt show any device |
| 16:49:09 | sideral | pixelma: I believe so −− or maybe HWCODEC doesn't build at all? Not sure what the impact is |
| 16:49:31 | pixelma | the build table would show the latter |
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| 16:51:24 | TheSeven | whippiii: does dmesg show it? |
| 16:51:31 | whippiii | wait |
| 16:53:06 | whippiii | TheSeven: would be this: "scsi 9:0:0:0: Direct-Access UMSboot RAMDISK..."? |
| 16:53:23 | TheSeven | yes |
| 16:53:52 | pixelma | sideral: looks like a "safe" thing to commit, even for me as a next to non-coder |
| 16:54:00 | whippiii | TheSeven: but I cant find the device name :S |
| 16:54:13 | whippiii | TheSeven: on /dev |
| 16:54:29 | TheSeven | should be in the dmesg output |
| 16:54:57 | TheSeven | if you only have one HDD, it will probably be /dev/sdb |
| 16:56:14 | sideral | pixelma: I think so. If you would be so kind? Your chance to crank up your commit stats by one ;) |
| 16:56:40 | pixelma | I plan to, currently test-building |
| 16:57:10 | whippiii | TheSeven: the device doesnt show :( fdisk only shows only HDD partitions |
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| 16:58:26 | TheSeven | you aren't supposed to do *anything* with fdisk |
| 16:58:27 | whippiii | TheSeven: gonna put on pastebin the dmesg output |
| 16:59:12 | whippiii | TheSeven: but I guess that if "there's a device" fdisk should "see it" |
| 16:59:13 | sideral | pixelma: I just checked in my sim what happens when that line is ifdef'd out: The setting menu shows a beautiful "Not done yet!" warning, and the sim crashes when I select that item |
| 16:59:22 | TheSeven | whippiii: not neccessarily |
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| 17:00:31 | pixelma | sideral: ooh nice. BTW: hwcodec does have the database, "just" not database in RAM. Why is this needed for autoresume? |
| 17:01:17 | sideral | autoresume relies on the DB, but not on DB-ramcache |
| 17:01:23 | whippiii | TheSeven: take a look: http://pastebin.com/RSfGQ35P |
| 17:01:44 | TheSeven | "sdc" all over the place |
| 17:01:49 | TheSeven | so that will be /dev/sdc |
| 17:01:51 | whippiii | so? |
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| 17:02:33 | whippiii | TheSeven: /dev/sdc doesnt exist :S |
| 17:02:52 | sideral | pixelma: it's just that autoresume is not yet supported for HWCODEC. The playback.c changes would have to be ported to mpeg.c |
| 17:02:55 | TheSeven | probably because dmesg says that the device was unplugged again after some minutes |
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| 17:03:37 | sideral | pixelma: it's probably trivial, but I have no device to test it on, and the simulation of HWCODEC is said to be not faithful enough to allow such a port |
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| 17:04:14 | whippiii | TheSeven: can I reboot the iPod and try again? |
| 17:04:30 | TheSeven | what does it say on the lcd? "no ubi file found"? |
| 17:04:41 | whippiii | yes |
| 17:04:43 | TheSeven | you need to start over in that case |
| 17:04:48 | TheSeven | just enter DFU mode again |
| 17:04:53 | whippiii | ok |
| 17:06:44 | pixelma | sideral: well, yes the codec chip is not emulated and playback doesn't really work, it wouldn't be easy to do |
| 17:08:51 | whippiii | TheSeven: now it's on sdb, I executed "mount", it's "mouting" since 1 minute |
| 17:09:01 | whippiii | gets frozen too |
| 17:09:32 | pixelma | sideral: at least trying to enter "Not done yet!" doesn't crash the device |
| 17:10:03 | TheSeven | whippiii: just wait |
| 17:10:10 | whippiii | ok |
| 17:10:14 | TheSeven | that's some linux-related bug |
| 17:10:31 | TheSeven | it seems to hit lots of read timeouts, and we don't yet know why |
| 17:10:36 | TheSeven | only happens with usb2 linux machines |
| 17:10:37 | whippiii | how much could it take? ÑS |
| 17:10:41 | TheSeven | a few minutes |
| 17:10:41 | whippiii | how long* |
| 17:10:48 | whippiii | okay |
| 17:11:14 | TheSeven | someone said killing mount with SIGKILL worked and the volume was accessible after that, but that might just have been luck |
| 17:11:24 | whippiii | TheSeven: done, it's mounted, now it's just to copy the ubi file |
| 17:11:35 | TheSeven | yes |
| 17:11:37 | whippiii | umount and disconnect the iPod |
| 17:11:39 | whippiii | right? |
| 17:11:41 | TheSeven | yep |
| 17:11:44 | whippiii | and reboot it |
| 17:11:45 | whippiii | ? |
| 17:12:30 | TheSeven | no, it should boot the installer after unplugging it |
| 17:12:41 | whippiii | ok |
| 17:12:54 | TheSeven | what does the LCD say? |
| 17:13:08 | whippiii | yes |
| 17:13:10 | whippiii | booted |
| 17:13:13 | whippiii | its formatting |
| 17:13:15 | whippiii | the old data |
| 17:13:39 | whippiii | fingers still crossed :S |
| 17:17:41 | whippiii | TheSeven: finished and the LCD got white |
| 17:17:45 | whippiii | TheSeven: so? |
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| 17:19:49 | TheSeven | whippiii: known bug, just reboot it manually |
| 17:19:55 | whippiii | done |
| 17:20:00 | whippiii | gonna copy some music and try |
| 17:20:50 | CIA-7 | New commit by pixelma (r29035): Fix the 'Gather Runtime Data' language string on HWCODEC which accidentally got disabled in r28943. Patch taken from FS #11748, author: Michael ... |
| 17:21:16 | whippiii | TheSeven: which is the way to copy music, videos, etc? |
| 17:21:34 | whippiii | mount it and...? |
| 17:21:42 | LambdaCalculus37 | Just copy them in. |
| 17:21:56 | TheSeven | whippiii: videos probably won't work yet |
| 17:22:01 | whippiii | ok |
| 17:22:17 | LambdaCalculus37 | whippiii: Videos don't work yet. Mpegplayer crashes on the iPod Classic currently. |
| 17:22:22 | whippiii | it's not grouped on folders or something? |
| 17:22:35 | whippiii | LambdaCalculus37: thanks for that tip |
| 17:22:40 | LambdaCalculus37 | whippiii: You can copy your music in however you feel comfortable. |
| 17:22:50 | whippiii | ok |
| 17:23:01 | sideral | thanks pixelma! |
| 17:23:16 | whippiii | uf |
| 17:23:22 | whippiii | dmesg shows errors |
| 17:23:25 | pixelma | sideral: you're welcome |
| 17:23:25 | whippiii | usb 2-4: device descriptor read/64, error -110 |
| 17:23:30 | CIA-7 | r29035 build result: All green |
| 17:23:33 | whippiii | I'm about to panic |
| 17:24:06 | [Saint] | this is where the "no warranty" part comes in. |
| 17:24:14 | whippiii | hehe |
| 17:27:47 | [Saint] | that seems to be some *nix related high speed USB thing if google is to be believes. |
| 17:27:54 | [Saint] | *believed.' |
| 17:28:03 | whippiii | can it be fixed? |
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| 17:28:16 | [Saint] | try another OS? |
| 17:28:35 | whippiii | gonna try on Windows |
| 17:29:03 | n1s | you could try unloading the ehci driver to disable high speed usb |
| 17:29:39 | whippiii | n1s: how can I do that? |
| 17:31:19 | n1s | modprobe -r <whatever the ehci thing is called< |
| 17:31:25 | n1s | s/</>/ |
| 17:31:39 | whippiii | n1s: dmesg told me: "usb 2-1: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 17" |
| 17:31:46 | whippiii | how can I restar it? |
| 17:31:49 | whippiii | restart* |
| 17:31:58 | n1s | try unloading ehci_hcd then |
| 17:32:03 | whippiii | ok |
| 17:32:04 | whippiii | wait |
| 17:33:27 | whippiii | n1s: sorry for my "stupidness", where I find the ehci name? |
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| 17:33:46 | n1s | try: modprobe -r ehci_hcd |
| 17:34:02 | whippiii | not found |
| 17:34:37 | n1s | well, you need to be rot or use sudo ofc |
| 17:34:40 | n1s | root |
| 17:35:23 | whippiii | ofc? |
| 17:35:55 | n1s | of course |
| 17:35:58 | n1s | sorry |
| 17:36:42 | whippiii | the same answer, ehci_hcd not found :S |
| 17:38:33 | n1s | your dmesg log says it's in use so that makes no sense |
| 17:38:46 | pixelma | bertrik: wasn't there a patch to improve sound quality on the AMS Sansas and is it on flyspray? |
| 17:39:40 | bertrik | pixelma, yes there is a patch, for AMSv2 sansas (fuze v2, clip v2, sansa clip+), I'll look it up |
| 17:40:30 | bertrik | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11304 |
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| 17:41:24 | pixelma | thanks |
| 17:42:52 | whippiii | n1s: gonna try on Windows, be right back on minutes |
| 17:43:12 | n1s | whippiii: ok, i won't be able to help with that at all though |
| 17:43:22 | whippiii | ok |
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| 18:01:16 | whippiii | it's a problem of Linux module |
| 18:01:22 | whippiii | on Windows copied some music and it Works :D |
| 18:01:26 | whippiii | thanks a lot |
| 18:01:31 | whippiii | :) |
| 18:01:38 | whippiii | TheSeven: thanks man |
| 18:01:44 | whippiii | n1s: thansk to you too :D |
| 18:01:47 | n1s | np |
| 18:02:22 | whippiii | just a little thing more: i choose Clear Backdrop on the theme menu |
| 18:02:26 | whippiii | how can I get them back? |
| 18:02:32 | * | pamaury find it suspicious when something usb related works under windows and not under linux... |
| 18:02:33 | whippiii | the backdrops |
| 18:02:37 | Torne | choose a backdrop |
| 18:02:41 | Torne | or choose a theme which includes one |
| 18:02:48 | whippiii | ok |
| 18:03:03 | whippiii | worked |
| 18:03:04 | whippiii | thanks |
| 18:03:13 | whippiii | gonna have lunch, see ya :) |
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| 18:03:46 | TheSeven | pamaury: i'd really like to know why. also it only fails with EHCI on linux. UHCI works fine. |
| 18:04:05 | TheSeven | and I usually don't get these enumeration fails but just bulk transfer timeouts followed by bus resets |
| 18:04:14 | pamaury | which device ? I don't want to read the log :) |
| 18:04:18 | TheSeven | on windows, not a single transfer bus reset occurs |
| 18:04:26 | TheSeven | s5l8701/2 |
| 18:04:30 | TheSeven | so the sysnopsys thing |
| 18:04:43 | pamaury | the same as in the nano2g ? |
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| 18:04:46 | TheSeven | yep |
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| 18:06:04 | pamaury | I basically have the same problem with the amsv2 one; except that there is my patch on FS with a nasty workaround. Perhaps a timing problem, linux might ensure the usb timing more stricly than windows |
| 18:06:41 | pamaury | it's strange than it works with ehci and uhci. On the other hand, with uhci you are bound to FS |
| 18:06:50 | pamaury | *uhci and not ehci |
| 18:07:27 | * | [Saint] found many of the same sorts of errors with different devices on *nix using Google |
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| 18:07:41 | [Saint] | I suspect it's not related to the port at all. |
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| 18:08:20 | pamaury | but in the case of the amsv2, I strongly suspect that the controller is not initialised correctly |
| 18:09:22 | n1s | do the OF's of these ipods have the same bad behvaiour when connected to a linux machine with hi speed |
| 18:09:24 | n1s | ? |
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| 18:11:52 | TheSeven | i can't test that myself, but i haven't heard of similar problems with the OF so far |
| 18:12:25 | TheSeven | also there seem to be very few devices where USB doesn't work at all, unless the device was booted through DFU (and thus the USB controller initialized by the bootrom) |
| 18:12:45 | TheSeven | a SoC reset doesn't break it in that case, a real powerdown does |
| 18:12:58 | TheSeven | i have absolutely no clue what kind of state that could be... |
| 18:13:31 | n1s | tricky but does indeed sound like a missing init |
| 18:14:23 | pamaury | the thing is that the clip+ usb code in the OF is written in C++ and is horrible to understand, and we don't even understand well the SoC itself so finding out is hard |
| 18:14:56 | pamaury | and in the case of the ipod, well we know even less about the SoC no ? |
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| 18:15:26 | TheSeven | pamaury: the bootrom code is rather trivial though |
| 18:15:57 | TheSeven | (and I think I have duplicated it rather well in our driver ;-) |
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| 18:16:33 | pamaury | did you duplicate all the init code as well ? |
| 18:17:04 | pamaury | because then it should work ! |
| 18:18:07 | TheSeven | at least roughly |
| 18:18:28 | TheSeven | the driver originates from the nano2g, and i have adjusted some values to make it work on the classic, but haven't compared all the code |
| 18:20:48 | pamaury | if I'm extremely motivated, I could try to go through the clip+ usb code to find out but than would extremely painful and clearly is not my priority since with the patch it works rather well |
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| 18:21:05 | TheSeven | what does the patch do? |
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| 18:21:27 | pamaury | dead simple: could bus reset and if there are too many, do a hard reset (soft disconnect, reconnect) |
| 18:21:31 | pamaury | *count |
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| 18:24:02 | pamaury | huh soft reset sorry |
| 18:24:27 | pamaury | well, just disconnect and reconnect. It works pretty well which is why I thing there an init problem |
| 18:26:11 | TheSeven | pamaury: that doesn't sound like the same bug then |
| 18:26:41 | TheSeven | soft disconnecting doesn't seem to make the bus resets go away |
| 18:26:58 | pamaury | no luck then |
| 18:27:05 | TheSeven | except maybe if linux is clever enough to degrade the device to USB1.1 after a few reconnects |
| 18:27:21 | * | [Saint] wonders if it's possible to build a landscape orientated version of RaaA |
| 18:27:30 | TheSeven | and also the bus resets happen on like every 10th to 20th bulk transfer, but only on transfers from the device to the PC |
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| 18:28:52 | pamaury | I my case then bus reset arise between enumeration and the first few transfers, the controller suddenly doesn't report transfers anymore |
| 18:28:53 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 18:29:31 | pamaury | perhaps you can physical disconnect the device, if there is some register to do so |
| 18:29:36 | pamaury | *physically |
| 18:30:15 | TheSeven | actually i didn't try soft disconnects but physical disconnects instead (manually unplugging the cable) |
| 18:30:52 | TheSeven | for me there is one timeout every 10 to 20 transfers, followed by a bus reset and re-enumeration |
| 18:31:19 | TheSeven | then the next 10 to 20 transfers make their way through the bus before it locks up again, gets reset again, etc. |
| 18:31:30 | pamaury | strange, good luck ;) |
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| 19:52:27 | * | [Saint] wishes that the "NOW PLAYING" wasn't a part of the backdrop in cabbiev2 |
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| 20:00:59 | thomasjfox | [Saint]: Quick question regaring cabbiev2: Is it supposed to hide the current playing track when one skips to the next track and show the popup menu instead? |
| 20:01:58 | [Saint] | I would say not...but, I can't see your WPS code...so. |
| 20:02:29 | [Saint] | that's either one hell of a bug, or you have two touch areas overlapping |
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| 20:02:46 | thomasjfox | Saint: http://repo.or.cz/w/maemo-rb.git/blob/maemo-port:/wps/cabbiev2.800x480x16.wps |
| 20:03:16 | thomasjfox | I already fixed that the prev/next track buttons only appear when the popup menu is active |
| 20:05:12 | [Saint] | Is that just the one from our SVN, repositioned? |
| 20:05:29 | [Saint] | our 480x800? |
| 20:07:52 | [Saint] | My suspicion is over-lapping touch areas, dump your .wps code to pastebin and PM me...I don't have time to look at it right now, but I can do this afternoon. |
| 20:07:58 | [Saint] | thomasjfox: ^ |
| 20:08:28 | [Saint] | (when I say afternoon, it's 8am here...so ;)) |
| 20:17:37 | thomasjfox | kugel did a quick port, guess it's based on the 480x800 android theme |
| 20:17:58 | thomasjfox | the link I posted above contains the .wps file |
| 20:18:27 | [Saint] | Ok, what time is it there for you? |
| 20:18:45 | thomasjfox | It's currently 20:20 ;) |
| 20:18:49 | [Saint] | If you're still on when I've sorted it out (assuming I do) I'll ping you if you're on. |
| 20:18:56 | thomasjfox | So I will be asleep |
| 20:19:14 | [Saint] | PM me a mail if you go off-line |
| 20:19:16 | thomasjfox | Thanks. Don't worry about it, I'll try to look for overlapping areas |
| 20:19:50 | [Saint] | I'd suggest the theme editor, but there seems to be a pretty bad bug with touch areas |
| 20:20:14 | [Saint] | touch areas aren't shown as viewport relative, so it'd be impossible to spot overlaps there. |
| 20:20:38 | thomasjfox | Looks like I need to get out paper and pen :) |
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| 21:37:08 | * | jhMikeS wonders if there was ever any particular reason PP bootloaders don't change the hardware settings or if that was just overly prudent |
| 21:40:43 | n1s | i'd guess that it could break the OF's in interesting ways |
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| 21:42:38 | jhMikeS | the OF I've looked at simply sets up it's own stuff from scratch, while the bl merely turns off the mem manager and interrupts |
| 21:44:04 | n1s | i think i remember something about lcd controller settings that caused an OF on some ipod to be mirrored or upsidedown or somesuch |
| 21:46:27 | jhMikeS | I don't think I'll need to change anything for LCD. I need the mem manager and interrupts though to do bl USB mode. It can avoid being forced on every bootloader of course. |
| 21:47:42 | gevaerts | jhMikeS: can that be done after checking for OF boot? |
| 21:49:01 | jhMikeS | after they key is checked? |
| 21:49:05 | gevaerts | yes |
| 21:49:10 | gevaerts | n1s: I'm charging my x5 now |
| 21:49:52 | n1s | gevaerts: great, it IS true that they can easily be recovered from a bad bootloader, right? |
| 21:50:03 | gevaerts | n1s: so I've been told :) |
| 21:50:37 | jhMikeS | gevaerts: it's complicated as all hell to late init that stuff, I was thinking mapping cached physical addresses to themselves would make it simpler for the bl |
| 21:50:45 | n1s | awesome, i really don't expect trouble from the lds patch, but maybe the toolchain switch itself |
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| 21:51:29 | gevaerts | jhMikeS: true. I guess the usual testing is good enough for making sure the thing works for OF loading too |
| 21:51:36 | jhMikeS | then with the mem manager setup, no addresses are altered, more of the bootloader can go in DRAM |
| 21:52:49 | jhMikeS | gevaerts: I wanted to not touch anything at all if the OF key is down, yes, bl USB mode would be "point of no return" and anything goes after that |
| 21:54:18 | * | jhMikeS would like two boot.lds files instead of dozens 1) PP5002 and 2) PP502x |
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| 22:00:12 | CIA-7 | New commit by gevaerts (r29036): Add test_gfx and test_resize to CATEORIES so they show up in the right place |
| 22:02:46 | CIA-7 | r29036 build result: All green |
| 22:02:50 | gevaerts | kugel: lcd_putsxy is *slightly* slower with the AA patch on ipod video, around 1.3% |
| 22:04:38 | * | [Saint] wonders what it is that is blocking that patch. |
| 22:04:47 | [Saint] | (AA Fonts) |
| 22:05:26 | jhMikeS | some feel it's pure "eye candy"? |
| 22:06:13 | [Saint] | Oh...we should drop .wps support then ;) |
| 22:06:16 | gevaerts | Well, it *is* pure eye candy. |
| 22:06:44 | gevaerts | Its impact seems to be a lot less than lots of other pure eye candy things we have though |
| 22:06:58 | [Saint] | what's wrong with eye candy? anyway...if it's low impact. |
| 22:07:07 | [Saint] | (which I understand this to be) |
| 22:07:19 | [Saint] | Ah, yes...what gevaerts said. |
| 22:08:49 | gevaerts | Adding an UNLIKELY to the if() gains about 0.1% back :) |
| 22:09:12 | [Saint] | wooo...commit! |
| 22:09:12 | gevaerts | That's pure lcd_putsxy speed of course, not counting actually updating the lcd |
| 22:09:14 | [Saint] | :P |
| 22:11:09 | [Saint] | On some targets, it could drastically impact LCD update spped and still have no visible impact. |
| 22:11:15 | [Saint] | *speed |
| 22:11:38 | gevaerts | It doesn't impact LCD update speed :) |
| 22:12:10 | gevaerts | It impacts the speed of the actual drwaing of the characters |
| 22:12:35 | [Saint] | by any amount that a human could register? |
| 22:12:36 | n1s | is it reading the background pixels from the fb? |
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| 22:13:12 | n1s | gevaerts: did you test how the speed differs between drawing an AA font and a non-AA one? |
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| 22:13:46 | gevaerts | n1s: no. I only really care about the impact on people who don't want AA |
| 22:14:08 | n1s | understandable, i was just curious |
| 22:15:51 | gevaerts | Testing that would need changes to test_gfx. That currently uses SYSFONT only |
| 22:16:13 | n1s | aha |
| 22:22:18 | n1s | gevaerts: if you test the bootloader today just post results in here or if you want to experiment if it fails, the only change i did was mark the .bss section as NOLOAD in the boot.lds file |
| 22:22:45 | gevaerts | n1s: it works |
| 22:22:50 | gevaerts | on x5 at least |
| 22:22:54 | n1s | ah, great |
| 22:22:56 | * | gevaerts just tested |
| 22:23:01 | n1s | the one i built? |
| 22:23:03 | gevaerts | yes |
| 22:23:11 | n1s | awesome, thanks |
| 22:23:23 | gevaerts | Zagor: did you remember the build client push? |
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| 22:24:46 | CIA-7 | New commit by nls (r29037): Fix warning when linking booltoaders with the new toolchain by marking .bss section NOLOAD, thanks for gevaerts for testing on his x5. |
| 22:25:13 | wodz | speaking about ehci problems - I can't reliably copy files to both of my ipods (nano2g and mini1g). I get tons of bus resets. If transfer is small sometimes it is successful but device hangs on sync anyway. |
| 22:25:47 | wodz | gl811e usb->ide bridge in MPIOs works like a charm on the other hand |
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| 22:26:41 | wodz | n1s: have you seen my message about battery_bench? |
| 22:27:02 | n1s | wodz: yes, forgot to reply |
| 22:27:09 | CIA-7 | r29037 build result: All green |
| 22:27:24 | n1s | so no significant difference, right? |
| 22:27:36 | wodz | yes |
| 22:27:54 | n1s | great, thanks for testing :) |
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| 22:29:18 | wodz | no problem |
| 22:30:03 | CIA-7 | New commit by zagor (r29038): Require client version 36. |
| 22:30:10 | Zagor | gevaerts: yes |
| 22:30:20 | n1s | we are set then i think |
| 22:30:49 | gevaerts | Zagor: ah, good. I hadn't noticed :) |
| 22:31:35 | n1s | so i commit changes to rockboxdev.sh and configure, and the build list needs an update? |
| 22:31:38 | gevaerts | Zagor: hm, don't you also have to tell the clients about this? Mine is still happy with 35 |
| 22:32:02 | Zagor | yes, I will restart the master which then tells everyone to upgrade |
| 22:32:23 | gevaerts | ok. Can you see how many clients announce m68k-gcc-452 somehow? |
| 22:33:26 | gevaerts | n1s: it's probably a good idea to first make sure we have enough updated build clients to not make build rounds last an hour :) |
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| 22:33:34 | Zagor | no, I don't log that |
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| 22:33:46 | B4gder | perhaps email the dev list about it? |
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| 22:34:18 | n1s | B4gder: yes, i'll push the rockboxdev.sh change and mail the list |
| 22:34:35 | gevaerts | not the dev list. We have a dedicated build client list after all |
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| 22:35:02 | B4gder | I totally forgot about thato ne |
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| 22:35:05 | n1s | ok, i'm not on that list so could someone else send that mail? |
| 22:36:07 | * | gevaerts can have a go |
| 22:36:31 | gevaerts | At least if I can figure out what to say |
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| 22:38:39 | * | wodz wonders what a genius compiled EHCI support stright into kernel in ubuntu 10.04.1. |
| 22:38:51 | Zagor | oops, wrong svn version |
| 22:39:04 | CIA-7 | New commit by nls (r29039): rockboxdev.sh: coldfire toolchain upgrade, now using gcc 4.5.2 and binutils 2.20.1. The configure switch will come as soon as a few buildclients are ... |
| 22:41:44 | CIA-7 | New commit by zagor (r29040): Bumped update client version |
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| 22:49:14 | gevaerts | n1s: sent |
| 22:49:27 | gevaerts | I also asked for replies so we know when we can go on |
| 22:49:41 | n1s | good idea :) |
| 22:49:55 | gevaerts | Do you have the configure patch ready? |
| 22:50:05 | n1s | yes, it's only 2 lines |
| 22:51:21 | n1s | it's also in fs#7832 in case a comet hits my ads modem or something |
| 22:51:27 | n1s | adsl |
| 22:51:51 | bertrik | which target should I build to test the new compiler? |
| 22:52:50 | n1s | bertrik: iriver h100/h300 iaudio m3,m5,x5 or mpio hd200/hd300 |
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| 23:17:43 | Zagor | n1s: "WARNING: Your cross-compiler m68k-elf-gcc 4.5.2 is not of the recommended version 3.4.6!" |
| 23:18:00 | Zagor | tools/configure:387 should be changed, no? |
| 23:18:32 | n1s | Zagor: yes but gevaerts told me to wait untill some clients had upgraded |
| 23:18:34 | Zagor | duh, *facepalm* you delayed that commit. ignore me :) |
| 23:18:35 | gevaerts | Zagor: as soon as we have a a reasonable amount of switched clients |
| 23:19:15 | gevaerts | Zagor: http://build.rockbox.org/dev.cgi says that there's a stuck build |
| 23:19:18 | bertrik | my desktop now has the updated m68 compiler and is advertising it in runclient script, I'll leave it on during this night |
| 23:19:33 | n1s | bertrik: great |
| 23:19:59 | thomasjfox | kugel: Present for you: FS #11868 |
| 23:20:45 | thomasjfox | kugel: I try to test the ucontext branch the next days, preparing the initial maemo patch took longer than I thought |
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| 23:21:07 | n1s | gevaerts: there are 8 coldfire builds if i count correctly and we should have 4 upgraded clients now, do you think that's enough? |
| 23:21:22 | n1s | not counting bl builds |
| 23:22:38 | gevaerts | hm, we'd have pretty slow rounds for a while, but that's not the end of the world |
| 23:22:45 | Zagor | oh, my mistake. I do log the supported archs |
| 23:23:16 | gevaerts | I'd say we update the builds file first, so the server does the right thing when the configure update goes in |
| 23:23:46 | thomasjfox | gevaerts: Would it make sense to have an "Application" player in FS? |
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| 23:24:07 | gevaerts | thomasjfox: probably. Prod Zagor for that :) |
| 23:24:30 | thomasjfox | Thanks |
| 23:24:35 | Zagor | it certainly sounds sensible |
| 23:24:38 | gevaerts | Zagor: what do the numbers there say? |
| 23:25:29 | n1s | gevaerts: yes, forgot about that one, i'll just hold off for now and do it tomorrow then |
| 23:25:41 | gevaerts | n1s: that one is ready here :) |
| 23:25:52 | gevaerts | Shall we go for it? |
| 23:26:02 | n1s | ah, ok then |
| 23:26:05 | n1s | :) |
| 23:26:20 | CIA-7 | New commit by gevaerts (r29041): Switch coldfire to gcc 4.5.2 |
| 23:27:02 | Zagor | there are 5 updated clients at the moment |
| 23:27:15 | gevaerts | Zagor: do you remember if the new builds file is picked up immediately? |
| 23:28:06 | Zagor | yes it is. rbmaster svn up:s it before each round |
| 23:28:14 | gevaerts | ok. great |
| 23:28:18 | gevaerts | n1s: your turn then :) |
| 23:28:49 | CIA-7 | New commit by nls (r29042): Switch coldfire builds over to new toolchain using gcc 4.5.2 and binutils 2.20.1 ... |
| 23:29:01 | * | n1s crosses fingers |
| 23:29:14 | B4gder | does rockboxdev.sh work fine with -j flags to make? |
| 23:29:21 | n1s | B4gder: yes |
| 23:29:25 | B4gder | nice, thanks |
| 23:29:36 | n1s | it even lets you set MAKEFLAGS |
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| 23:32:24 | n1s | Anyone building a gcc 4.5 crosscompiler, note that the build needs a c++ compiler |
| 23:32:47 | * | n1s goes to update some wiki pages about that |
| 23:33:57 | CIA-7 | r29042 build result: All green |
| 23:34:20 | n1s | \o/ |
| 23:34:23 | Zagor | whee! nicely done, n1s |
| 23:34:27 | gevaerts | \☺/ |
| 23:34:30 | gevaerts | Weird deltas |
| 23:34:39 | n1s | indeed |
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| 23:37:39 | n1s | i'll take a look at the deltas tomorrow |
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| 23:42:58 | thomasjfox | jhMikeS: btw: I tried my luck with the Rio developers about the Karma's PortalPlayer ecos changes. The submitted changes to Redhat are lost and it looks like they won't hand them out... |
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| 23:44:01 | thomasjfox | jhMikeS: Would have been nice to get the diff files, they should contain good information about the used PortalPlayer chipset |
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| 23:53:55 | jhMikeS | not sure what to make of that. why the heck won't they share it? was there new info in it? |
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