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| 01:36:28 | pixelma | hmm, the v1 Recorders can not be "powered or charged via USB"? |
| 01:38:39 | pixelma | charging I could understand somewhat as it is about NiMH cells but I would have thought that getting power through USB would be possible (as it is done for the Ondios) |
| 01:38:48 | scorche|sh | not that i know of |
| 01:41:21 | pixelma | well, I see that it is not defined in the config files but was curious about the technical reasons |
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| 01:45:04 | kkurbjun | Does anyone know what happened to the wiki users page? |
| 01:45:17 | [Saint] | in what respect? |
| 01:45:18 | JdGordon| | it dropped the t |
| 01:45:26 | kkurbjun | with the last edit by "BaseUserMapping_333" |
| 01:45:36 | kkurbjun | they added a user "SlutFuck" |
| 01:45:45 | kkurbjun | and it doesn't appear that they are a valid user |
| 01:46:04 | [Saint] | well...I should hope it's not a real name ;) |
| 01:46:16 | [Saint] | so, it's presumably safe to remove. |
| 01:46:34 | kkurbjun | well, I don't know what the user "BaseUserMapping_333" is either |
| 01:46:55 | [Saint] | no...that does seem suspicious. |
| 01:47:09 | [Saint] | I assume that that user doesn't appear on the wikiuserlist |
| 01:47:31 | [Saint] | BaseUserMapping_333 certainly isn't a real name either |
| 01:47:46 | [Saint] | ...I hope |
| 01:47:48 | kkurbjun | no, the last edit says that it was done by an admin user |
| 01:48:04 | [Saint] | ok...weird. |
| 01:48:15 | [Saint] | perhaps leave it then. |
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| 01:48:48 | kkurbjun | yeah, I'm guessing bagder or zagor, or someone that is an admin needs to look into it |
| 01:49:04 | kkurbjun | it looks like the wiki may have been broken into |
| 01:50:13 | [Saint] | You'd think they ("they" being said hackers in theory") would choose a less obvious name |
| 01:50:34 | kkurbjun | yeah, I would have thought |
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| 02:41:51 | pixelma | I saw this BaseUserMapping thing a few times recently and related it to the failed registration attempts (e.g. by MysteryKeeper) but am not sure |
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| 03:08:36 | soap | Buschel. Things have been really busy here, I'll be ready to test whatever you need Saturday morning (GMT -4). Sunday I take off again. |
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| 03:10:39 | ne | does anyone know how to play quick saved games from rockboy and copy the saved file onto our computer to play on the gba emulator? |
| 03:11:34 | soap | there is a forum thread on at least going the other direction, ne. |
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| 03:11:52 | soap | I don't recall if it mentions how to go your way. But it's a place to start. |
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| 03:12:31 | kjosh62 | does anyone know how to play gbc files on my gba emulator by moving my quick saved rockboy file onto my computer? |
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| 03:57:06 | jhMikeS | Buschel: Wow, that's sort of what I wouldn't expect. I agree about the battery life; the problem isn't really critical. How does it compare to bootup because that reset happens then as well? |
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| 04:13:09 | Antonio_ | hey folks |
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| 04:17:57 | Antonio_ | I'm trying to install rockbox on a 30 gig ipod video (5.5th generation)... |
| 04:18:10 | Antonio_ | I'm trying to install rockbox on a 30 gig ipod video (5.5th generation)... |
| 04:18:19 | Antonio_ | Do I need to have the apple firmware on it to install rockbox? |
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| 04:19:35 | [Saint] | not that I know of. |
| 04:19:54 | [Saint] | though, I have only ever removed the Apple OF *after* installing RB |
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| 04:23:41 | Antonio_ | saint: the ipodpatcher program returned with "firmware partition doesn't contain apple copyright, aborting. |
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| 04:25:19 | [Saint] | Hmmm, as I said, I've only removed the Apple OF after the fact. |
| 04:25:58 | [Saint] | I guess it makes perfect sense that it wouldn't work though...it's probably checking for some specific apple magic. |
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| 04:28:57 | [Saint] | http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IpodPatcher#A_4_41_OSOS_contains_only_Rockbox <−− is the info for removing dual-boot ability, and having only rockbox in the OSOS |
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| 04:29:46 | [Saint] | after that you can remove the apple directories on the root of the player if you'd like, they won't return unless the OF is booted. |
| 04:29:58 | [Saint] | (which can't happen unless you revert it) |
| 04:30:18 | Antonio_ | does anyone know how to install the apple firmware with ipodpatcher? |
| 04:30:52 | [Saint] | you have an .ipsw file for your player? |
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| 04:59:16 | Antonio_ | saint: yeah I have the .ipsw file |
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| 05:02:17 | Torne | unzip it, it's just a zipfile |
| 05:02:32 | Torne | there's a file inside which is the actual firmware |
| 05:02:41 | Antonio_ | yeah |saint|: I have the .ipsw file |
| 05:02:52 | Torne | You do nede to have the apple OF installed/working to install rockbox, though |
| 05:02:58 | Torne | well, most of it |
| 05:03:03 | Torne | You don't need the actual OF binary |
| 05:03:06 | Torne | (the OSOS image) |
| 05:03:12 | Torne | but you do need all the *other* stuff in the firmware partition |
| 05:03:15 | Torne | and the partition layout itself |
| 05:03:20 | Torne | So, restore in itunes first. |
| 05:03:20 | Antonio_ | um... |
| 05:03:23 | [Saint] | yes, as Torne said, open the .ipsw file with an archiver, and remove the file inside. |
| 05:03:29 | Antonio_ | it won't restore in itunes |
| 05:03:34 | Antonio_ | I've tried numerous times |
| 05:03:35 | [Saint] | then use ipodpatcher -wf <thatfile> |
| 05:03:40 | Torne | Then the device is proably broken |
| 05:03:47 | Torne | itunes is almost entirely reliable |
| 05:04:00 | [Saint] | yes....if iTunes won't restore it, she's probably dead. |
| 05:04:18 | Torne | ipodpatcher can't do -wf unless the firmware partition is intact and has a header |
| 05:04:28 | Torne | it doesn't know how to actually format the firmware partition. |
| 05:04:37 | Torne | it can only backup/restore it as a raw blob the same as dd would |
| 05:04:38 | Antonio_ | its weird, as I can do disk mode, diagnostic mode, etc.. and even add as many files to the ipod as I want |
| 05:04:52 | Torne | what does itunes actually do? |
| 05:04:53 | [Saint] | yeah, I was assuming that the OF was intact still but damaged somehow. |
| 05:05:12 | Torne | Antonio_: you mean in the emergency disk mde, or can you actually boot the OF? |
| 05:05:31 | Antonio_ | emergency disk mode is the "ok to disconnect" right? |
| 05:05:37 | Antonio_ | whats of by the way? |
| 05:05:40 | Antonio_ | original firmware? |
| 05:06:04 | Torne | emergency disk mode is the monochrome screen you get by holding menu+pla on poweron |
| 05:06:10 | Torne | which displays "ok to disconnect" when not mounted. |
| 05:06:19 | Antonio_ | yeah |
| 05:06:26 | Torne | as opposed to just plugging the ipod in while it's running the original firmware, whch is in colour |
| 05:06:30 | Torne | though it does display similar warnings |
| 05:06:50 | Torne | emergency disk mode, andd diagnostic mode, are both in the flash rom |
| 05:06:56 | Torne | so they will work even if the hard disk is totally toast/corrupt |
| 05:07:15 | Antonio_ | if the hd is corrupt, I shouldn't be able to copy files to it, right? |
| 05:07:15 | Torne | and emergency disk mode lets you access the disk even if the firmware partition is broken/nonexistent/whatever |
| 05:07:35 | Torne | Er, no, it may be that the disk has a bad area where the firmware partition is |
| 05:07:41 | Torne | you are copying files onto th edata partition |
| 05:07:44 | Torne | anyway, it could be lots of things. |
| 05:07:56 | Torne | the fact you can put files on it doesn't mean the hardwar is ok, anyway, is my point. |
| 05:08:05 | Torne | and itunes is normally pretty good at restoring ipods from whatever condition |
| 05:08:16 | Torne | has this ipodever worked? |
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| 05:09:47 | Antonio_ | I did a quick check on the drive and it says that there are no errors with the disk |
| 05:10:22 | Torne | that *also* doesn't prove the disk works |
| 05:10:30 | Torne | you mean with chkdsk/similar? |
| 05:10:34 | Torne | because that's only going to scan the data partition :) |
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| 05:10:50 | Torne | the firmware is not stored in the partition you cna see in your OS |
| 05:10:56 | Torne | it's stored in an invisible partition that your OS won't mount. |
| 05:11:16 | [Saint] | if the OF partition is toast, it's not going to tell you with chkdsk |
| 05:11:48 | Torne | aanyway. what exactly does itunes do? |
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| 05:12:42 | Antonio__ | damn...connection |
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| 05:16:11 | Antonio__ | I'm going to need some help on how to install rockbox... |
| 05:16:18 | Antonio__ | hopefully I can get the apple firmware on this ipod |
| 05:16:44 | Torne | what exactly does itunes do when you try to restore the ipod? |
| 05:17:01 | Torne | also, are you using windows/ |
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| 05:18:12 | Antonio__ | using windows... |
| 05:18:16 | Antonio__ | reinstalling itunes |
| 05:19:11 | Torne | ok, so while you do that, just to clarify, what you should be doing is booting the ipod into the black and white mergency disk mode, using select+play, then connecting it while itunes is running |
| 05:19:23 | Torne | it should pop up saying "itunes has detected an ipod in recovery mode, do you want to restore this ipod" or similar |
| 05:19:24 | Antonio__ | yeah that much I know... |
| 05:19:36 | Torne | sure, just making sure. |
| 05:19:42 | Torne | did it do that? |
| 05:19:47 | Antonio__ | hold up... |
| 05:19:52 | Antonio__ | downloading itunes again... |
| 05:19:56 | Antonio__ | and reinstalling it |
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| 05:20:01 | Torne | i mean, lsat time you tried |
| 05:20:12 | Antonio__ | can't remember what happened... |
| 05:20:23 | Antonio__ | it acted like it was going to restore it, but it never did... |
| 05:20:29 | Antonio__ | just went back to the same old sad face thing |
| 05:20:36 | Torne | ok, well, once youv'e reinstalled it, try again and tell me what happened |
| 05:20:47 | Torne | if we can get to the bottom of why itunes it'snt working tha's the easiest way to get it going again |
| 05:20:55 | Antonio__ | God, Steve Jobs annoys me |
| 05:21:01 | Torne | there is a harder way but you may need some command line skills and tools to do it |
| 05:21:22 | Antonio__ | dos or terminal? |
| 05:21:33 | Torne | linux, ideally |
| 05:21:42 | Torne | we don't have any docs on how to do it in windows :) |
| 05:21:53 | Torne | it's possible, but i dunno that anyone has ever bothered |
| 05:22:15 | Torne | i suggest we try to get itunes to work first |
| 05:22:27 | Antonio__ | god taking forever to download |
| 05:22:47 | Antonio__ | thank god I have win7 and ubuntu dual booted |
| 05:23:24 | Antonio__ | back in a few..waiting for it to download |
| 05:23:33 | Torne | ok. |
| 05:23:41 | Torne | are you reasonably comfortable with linuxcommand line stuff? |
| 05:24:22 | Antonio__ | not super comfortable, but I if you feed me lines I should be able to wing it |
| 05:24:41 | Antonio__ | are you talking about the instructions with the dd thing? |
| 05:24:48 | Antonio__ | for the mbr and the .ipsw file? |
| 05:25:09 | Torne | yes |
| 05:25:18 | Torne | from IpodManualRestore |
| 05:25:22 | Torne | on the wiki. |
| 05:26:00 | Antonio__ | I remember there is one part that was tripping me up |
| 05:26:23 | Torne | oh, ou tried that already? |
| 05:26:31 | Torne | well. .since you're getting itunes now yo umight as well give that another go first |
| 05:26:39 | Torne | but if we can't get anywhere i'll happily help you with the manual restore |
| 05:26:50 | Antonio__ | didn't do the whole thing... |
| 05:26:50 | Antonio__ | It was super late and my mind was kind of fuzzy |
| 05:28:39 | Antonio__ | ok itunes is installing |
| 05:28:59 | Antonio__ | so how is rockbox anyways? |
| 05:30:11 | Antonio__ | ok torne: itunes is up |
| 05:30:27 | Antonio__ | "detected an ipod in recovery mode" yada |
| 05:31:45 | Torne | o, well, hit yes and see what happens |
| 05:32:09 | Antonio__ | no!!!! |
| 05:32:11 | Antonio__ | I just did that... |
| 05:32:32 | Antonio__ | steve jobs has just gotten my soul ;) |
| 05:32:40 | Antonio__ | been restored and is restarting |
| 05:32:56 | Antonio__ | still getting the sad face thing... |
| 05:34:43 | Torne | OK, so itunes didn't display any errors or anything? |
| 05:34:46 | Torne | iut just said it had finished? |
| 05:34:58 | Antonio__ | so I just got it back in disk mode and plugged it back in...still getting the "need to restore this ipod" |
| 05:35:03 | Torne | ok. |
| 05:35:21 | Antonio__ | anything that can be done in windows or should I boot to linux? |
| 05:35:46 | Torne | hm. well, there is one thing but you'll need dd to do it which is already gonna be there on linux |
| 05:35:51 | Torne | i suggest you try the manual restore instructions |
| 05:36:01 | Torne | so, boot linux :) |
| 05:36:09 | Antonio__ | I'll see you in a minute... |
| 05:36:15 | Antonio__ | gonna have some questions I'm sure of it ;) |
| 05:36:23 | Antonio__ | back in a minute |
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| 05:38:34 | mylisto | hey torne: its me antonio |
| 05:40:16 | Torne | o k:) |
| 05:40:29 | Torne | well, start the pocess and ask me when you have a problem |
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| 05:42:16 | antonio__ | argh |
| 05:42:20 | antonio__ | bad int connection |
| 05:43:11 | antonio__ | torne: let me know when you're back around |
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| 05:44:47 | Torne | I'm always here |
| 05:44:50 | antonio__ | ok :D |
| 05:46:09 | antonio__ | so what do I need to do now? |
| 05:48:16 | Torne | this: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IpodManualRestore |
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| 05:48:53 | Torne | if you have a problem with any of the steps, just ask |
| 05:51:28 | antonio__ | ok for this line dd if=mbr-video30gb-2048.bin of=/dev/sdc1 |
| 05:51:43 | antonio__ | I'm not sure if I need to use sdc1 or sdc2 |
| 05:51:49 | Torne | Neither |
| 05:51:56 | Torne | just sdc |
| 05:52:00 | antonio__ | ah ok |
| 05:52:02 | Torne | the mbr is the part with the partition table |
| 05:52:06 | Torne | it goes at the start of the disk |
| 05:52:41 | Torne | are you suare the 2048 byte sector version is right? |
| 05:52:50 | Torne | jus checking because if not then this won't work |
| 05:53:03 | antonio__ | yes its right... |
| 05:53:13 | antonio__ | sudo hdparm -z /dev/sdc |
| 05:53:13 | antonio__ | /dev/sdc: |
| 05:53:13 | antonio__ | re-reading partition table |
| 05:53:13 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK antonio__ |
| 05:53:13 | antonio__ | BLKRRPART failed: Device or resource busy |
| 05:53:34 | Torne | Your linux has one of the partitions mounted |
| 05:53:36 | antonio__ | I'm sure I'm not supposed to get that error |
| 05:53:37 | Torne | You need to not do that :) |
| 05:53:38 | antonio__ | ah ok |
| 05:53:38 | tmzt | it's a scsi device |
| 05:53:41 | tmzt | isn't it? |
| 05:53:41 | antonio__ | let me unmount it |
| 05:54:08 | Torne | tmzt: yes. hdparm works on scsi device nodes, to a limited degree |
| 05:54:21 | tmzt | same ioctl then, ok |
| 05:54:22 | Torne | tmzt: -z is just prodding the block device system to rescan the partition table, so that doesn't care what the disk really is |
| 05:54:40 | Torne | it doesn't go to the actual controller, just the generic block layer |
| 05:55:57 | antonio__ | dd if=iPod_25.1.3.ipsw of=/dev/sdc1 dd: opening `/dev/sdc1': Permission denied |
| 05:56:40 | Torne | the previous ones succeeded? |
| 05:56:56 | Torne | disconnect the device and replug it, then try again |
| 05:57:17 | Torne | well. disconnect and replug, then unmount the data partition again |
| 05:57:19 | Torne | then try again :) |
| 05:58:14 | antonio__ | all of the steps, or just the last one that didn't work? |
| 05:59:05 | Torne | just the last one |
| 05:59:11 | Torne | it may not have reread the partition table properly |
| 05:59:14 | Torne | reconnecting it forces the issue :) |
| 05:59:30 | tmzt | also try fdisk /dev/sdc; w |
| 05:59:41 | tmzt | it does the same thing but seems to work better |
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| 06:00:02 | antonio__ | still getting permission denied |
| 06:00:50 | Torne | tmzt: if you've reconnected it the kernel can't be holding onto the old partition table. |
| 06:00:54 | antonio__ | fdisk gave me unable to open /dev/sdc |
| 06:01:06 | Torne | you need to run all of this as root |
| 06:01:18 | Torne | which i suspect you aren't |
| 06:01:24 | antonio__ | so sudo then |
| 06:01:30 | antonio__ | hah |
| 06:01:34 | Torne | yes.. none of these steps will work as a regular user |
| 06:01:34 | antonio__ | ok copied ;) |
| 06:01:43 | tmzt | Torne: ah, but it might get a new device |
| 06:01:53 | tmzt | but yeah, he wasn't root |
| 06:02:19 | antonio__ | now I need to format the 2nd partition right? |
| 06:03:00 | antonio__ | torne: this is the part that really trips me up... |
| 06:03:02 | antonio__ | mformat -S 2048 -M 2048 -F DRIVE_LETTER: |
| 06:03:09 | antonio__ | I'm not sure what the drive letter is |
| 06:03:20 | tmzt | -i /dev/sdc :: |
| 06:03:36 | tmzt | stop |
| 06:03:39 | tmzt | the partition of course |
| 06:03:43 | antonio__ | ? |
| 06:03:46 | tmzt | -i /dev/sdc2 :: |
| 06:03:59 | antonio__ | does that tell me what the drive letter is? |
| 06:04:10 | tmzt | it's a trick, you don't need one |
| 06:04:17 | tmzt | the drive letter is :: |
| 06:04:19 | Torne | use that instead of the drive letter. |
| 06:04:31 | antonio__ | oh do you mean append that to the end of that line? |
| 06:04:44 | antonio__ | to the end of this? |
| 06:04:44 | antonio__ | mformat -S 2048 -M 2048 -F DRIVE_LETTER: |
| 06:04:48 | tmzt | mcopy -i my-image-file.bin ::file1 ::file2 . |
| 06:05:22 | tmzt | mformat -S 2048 -M 2048 -i /dev/sdc2 :: |
| 06:05:30 | tmzt | but it's not mentioned in the man page |
| 06:06:44 | antonio__ | argsize must be less than 6 |
| 06:07:05 | antonio__ | I read something about that issue |
| 06:09:09 | antonio__ | "mformat: Hidden (192780) does not match sectors (2048) |
| 06:09:09 | antonio__ | " |
| 06:09:30 | Torne | Hmm |
| 06:10:25 | Torne | try mkfs.vfat -S 2048 -F 32 /dev/sdc2 |
| 06:10:39 | Torne | some people have reported that mkfs.vfat doesn't work right but it has worked fine for me in the past |
| 06:10:43 | Torne | and it's less weird and magical than mformat |
| 06:11:00 | antonio__ | permission denied |
| 06:11:53 | Torne | run it as root |
| 06:11:58 | Torne | absolutely everything here needs you to be root |
| 06:12:03 | antonio__ | :D |
| 06:12:12 | antonio__ | I thought I did...acidentally ran the mformat as root |
| 06:12:16 | antonio__ | ok its done |
| 06:12:39 | antonio__ | this is the output I recieved - mkfs.vfat 3.0.7 (24 Dec 2009) |
| 06:12:44 | Torne | ok, also do sudo eject /dev/sdc |
| 06:12:57 | Torne | then pull it out and the ipod shuld probably reboot on its own |
| 06:13:02 | Torne | and will hopefully start the original firmware :) |
| 06:13:17 | antonio__ | damnit! |
| 06:13:20 | antonio__ | nope |
| 06:15:13 | Torne | ok, so if everything above succeeded then that sounds like there's somethign wrong with the device, i'm afraid |
| 06:15:24 | Torne | it might be recoverable if someon was sufficiently determined |
| 06:15:34 | Torne | reboot it and enter diag mode |
| 06:15:41 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 06:15:41 | * | Torne finds his ipod to guide you through the menus :) |
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| 06:16:27 | Torne | ok, hit manual test, then io, harddrive, hdsmartdata |
| 06:16:49 | Torne | what does it say for reallocs and pending sectors? should be zero. |
| 06:17:30 | antonio__ | think I did this yesterday... |
| 06:17:33 | antonio__ | and it just hung |
| 06:18:21 | antonio__ | just says smart data at the top and a blank screen |
| 06:19:04 | Torne | it will take at least a few seconds, it has to spin the disk up |
| 06:19:13 | Torne | if that hangs then your disk is broken |
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| 06:19:20 | Torne | 99.99% certain :0 |
| 06:19:35 | antonio__ | crap |
| 06:19:47 | antonio__ | wonder how much a new hd is |
| 06:19:49 | Torne | if it doesn't do anything by now then reset it, go back in, and try HD Info in the same menu |
| 06:21:13 | Torne | does that also hang? |
| 06:22:05 | antonio__ | hold up |
| 06:22:47 | Torne | er, hdspecs even |
| 06:23:01 | antonio__ | hm |
| 06:23:06 | antonio__ | looks like that is hanging as well... |
| 06:23:10 | antonio__ | wasn't yesterday |
| 06:23:43 | antonio__ | um |
| 06:23:47 | antonio__ | just says model number: |
| 06:23:49 | antonio__ | with nothing after it |
| 06:24:57 | Torne | OK, the disk is definately not behaving then |
| 06:25:04 | Torne | i'm surprised you can access it at all in disk mode |
| 06:25:17 | antonio__ | ok..., |
| 06:25:17 | Torne | so yes, unfortuantely your disk is probably broken |
| 06:25:34 | Torne | on the bright side, you can get a bigger one maybe :) |
| 06:25:43 | antonio__ | model number I_ 7t hdsn: E)& K |
| 06:25:52 | Torne | yeah htat's not good ;) |
| 06:25:58 | antonio__ | ? |
| 06:26:15 | Torne | sounds broken |
| 06:26:15 | antonio__ | total lba 201326592 |
| 06:26:27 | antonio__ | total size: 96gb - thats definitely not right |
| 06:26:45 | antonio__ | is there any kind of software utility to try to repair this drive? |
| 06:28:29 | Torne | no. |
| 06:28:41 | Torne | either the drive, or the cable, or the controller is broken, i'm afraid |
| 06:28:48 | Torne | most likely the drive if the ipod previously worked |
| 06:29:48 | antonio__ | well looks like I have a fricking 30 gig flash drive at least :D |
| 06:30:31 | Torne | No, I would be very surprised if the player stored any files reliably |
| 06:30:39 | Torne | i wouldn't recommend using it for anything :) |
| 06:31:07 | [Saint] | HDD also != Flash ;) |
| 06:31:07 | antonio__ | its weird, as it actually holds files reliably |
| 06:31:18 | antonio__ | ? |
| 06:31:58 | Torne | No, that's not guaranteed :) |
| 06:32:11 | Torne | it may not work equally well across the entire disk surface. |
| 06:32:19 | Torne | and it may not work *deterministically* |
| 06:32:27 | Torne | if it can't even get a valid ATA IDENTIFY response then the drive is toast. |
| 06:32:31 | Torne | don't trust it. |
| 06:32:55 | antonio__ | I ain't |
| 06:32:58 | antonio__ | ah well... |
| 06:33:06 | antonio__ | besides it ain't my ipod, just fixing it for a friend |
| 06:33:09 | antonio__ | or was trying |
| 06:36:19 | antonio__ | thanks |
| 06:36:20 | antonio__ | night |
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| 06:59:15 | JdGordon| | bmmp scrollbars in the lists will have an interesting difference to the built in ones.... |
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| 06:59:41 | Llorean | Being? |
| 06:59:47 | JdGordon| | the slide bit wont resize for the list item count |
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| 07:00:01 | JdGordon| | so if there is only a few items offscreen it might look like there are heaps missing |
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| 07:11:20 | Llorean | JdGordon|: Why isn't that achievable? Couldn't you just truncate the image used, and tell people that "the image will be truncated if it needs to be smaller so use a pattern or something that can accept this"? |
| 07:13:37 | JdGordon| | we shall see..... |
| 07:14:38 | [Saint] | I don't see it as such a problem, personally. |
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| 07:24:10 | jhMikeS | How about, some number of pixels from either end are always displayed, but the middle part is cropped−− just one bitmap but variable length...? |
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| 07:26:52 | [Saint] | I don't see the problem in it being a fixed size. |
| 07:27:12 | [Saint] | it only needs to represent the position in the list quite approximately |
| 07:27:39 | jhMikeS | Buschel: Hello. Care to try a patch out? :> jhmikes.cleansoap.org/pp502x-usb-reset-on-disable.diff">http://jhmikes.cleansoap.org/pp502x-usb-reset-on-disable.diff |
| 07:27:58 | Buschel | jhMikeS: hi, will check this now |
| 07:28:00 | * | jhMikeS was just suggesting a way around the issue |
| 07:28:17 | jhMikeS | last line was @[Saint] |
| 07:31:45 | Buschel | jhMikeS: do I need to test some read/write in USB mode? |
| 07:32:12 | Buschel | jhMikeS: the currents look fine so far |
| 07:34:02 | Buschel | jhMikeS: additionally it seems FS #10719 is fixed :) |
| 07:34:02 | jhMikeS | connect then disconnect should be all that's necessary, or whatever you did before |
| 07:34:31 | jhMikeS | haha, don't even know what that is :) |
| 07:34:49 | Buschel | battery leakage after one time USB connect ;) |
| 07:34:55 | Buschel | some init stuff... |
| 07:35:41 | jhMikeS | I looked at the reg values after full reset and after running. Reset and running leave it the same, but full sets it back. |
| 07:36:35 | jhMikeS | Buschel: thanks for testing |
| 07:36:46 | Buschel | thanks for fixing :) |
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| 07:45:14 | CIA-7 | r29094 build result: All green |
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| 07:48:03 | * | jhMikeS got beat to the FS close :P |
| 07:48:12 | Buschel | hehe |
| 07:48:14 | Buschel | ;) |
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| 08:10:26 | AndrewM | I am just install the latest version of Rockbox to my Ipod video 5.5gen 80gb. I would like to ask why ipod can control volume when using Lineout function. This issue is not happen in the Ipod Nano 2nd. |
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| 08:14:01 | fml | [Saint]: (for the logs :-) if I remember correctly, scroll start delay is just the delay before the text begins to scroll. After that, there is no delay between scroll rounds. |
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| 08:14:45 | [Saint] | Hmmm, yes, have you tried messing with the bidir limit? |
| 08:14:58 | [Saint] | so that it bounces instead of scrolls through? |
| 08:15:15 | [Saint] | I find it easier to read that way, some people like the opposite |
| 08:17:46 | AndrewM | I am wonder if rockbox has a lineout bug on Ipod video. |
| 08:18:45 | Torne | Line out is at line level. |
| 08:18:48 | Torne | That's not a bug. |
| 08:18:56 | Torne | The hardware has no volume control on line out. |
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| 08:21:19 | AndrewM | Is it means that I should set 0db on Ipod video and using lineout? |
| 08:21:49 | Torne | It means that line out is at a fixed volume by definition |
| 08:21:56 | Torne | line out is always 0dB |
| 08:22:20 | Torne | use the volume control of whatever you have connected it to. |
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| 08:23:31 | AndrewM | But I scroll the click wheel, I can distinguish the 0db and max. 6db difference through headphone amplifier |
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| 08:24:19 | Torne | i'm not sure what you mean |
| 08:24:44 | Torne | the volume control controls the headphone output ont he DAC. |
| 08:24:56 | Torne | the line output doesn't have one |
| 08:26:58 | JdGordon| | do I add a tag to see if the scrollbar is actually needed? or just draw nothing for the scrollbar tag if it isnt? |
| 08:27:25 | AndrewM | Based on the offical firmware, If IPV is using lineout and connect to amplifer, the firmware is disable the volume control function.After I install rockbox in Ipod video, IPV can control the volume no matter it is phone out or line out. |
| 08:28:36 | JdGordon| | [Saint]: ^ |
| 08:29:04 | AndrewM | When I using the IPV (rockbox installed) lineout function to connect amplifier, IPV can control the volume output in Lineout side. |
| 08:29:33 | [Saint] | JdGordon|: It'd need a conditional to see if it's needed, otherwise it would always allocate the space for it even if it wasn't drawn I'd assume. |
| 08:29:35 | Torne | Oh, i misunderstood what you meant, sorry |
| 08:29:57 | Torne | We have a much wider range of volume adjustment than the original firmware. It's done by altering the actual digital samples when the volume is turned down very low. |
| 08:30:11 | Torne | to allow the volume to be adjusted outside the normal range of the DAC |
| 08:30:26 | Torne | this applies to line out as well since it's bascially a DSP effect |
| 08:30:52 | AndrewM | Oh, I would like to explain if I set -100db, 0db and 6db in IPV, it can control the output level through lineout. I can distinguish the level differences in lineout |
| 08:30:53 | Torne | It should remain constant as long as you don't reduce the volume below -30 or so |
| 08:31:11 | bluefoxx | So, I've got this 30 gig gigabeat, rockboxed, and it's been pretty great so far, but I've also got this 120 gig drive I want to stuff in it. Problem seems to be that between my OS of choice (win7 x64) and the new drive using 4K sectors, the OF on the gigabeat doesn't play nice upon a reboot of the device when I do get rockbox on it. |
| 08:31:13 | Torne | i forget what the lower limit is |
| 08:31:34 | bluefoxx | Anyone got some direction that I should go in? I'm a bit lost on where to restart now |
| 08:31:37 | Torne | bluefoxx: does the drive correctly allow unaligned reads/writes? |
| 08:31:49 | bluefoxx | Torne: Drive is http://www.samsung.com/global/business/hdd/productmodel.do?group=&type=94&subtype=100&model_cd=409 |
| 08:31:53 | Torne | r is it one of the broken toshiba drives that insists on aligned accesses, contrary to the spec? |
| 08:32:07 | Torne | the beast firmware doesn't check the sector size of the disk, it doesn't know about that stuff |
| 08:32:22 | Torne | so as long as unaligned accesses work it shouldn't know/care. |
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| 08:32:54 | bluefoxx | Doesn't seem to say if it insists on aligned writes |
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| 08:33:41 | Torne | it won't, no. |
| 08:33:46 | Torne | because insisting on that is a *defect* :) |
| 08:34:11 | Torne | the spec requires that you support unaligned reads at minimum, and strongly recommends that you support unaligned writes as well |
| 08:34:17 | Torne | drives that don't have broken firmware. |
| 08:34:25 | Torne | so it's not going to tell you on the spec sheet :) |
| 08:35:09 | Torne | are you doing anything to the disk to prepare it? |
| 08:35:20 | Torne | because the beast will not like virtually anything you try. |
| 08:35:20 | bluefoxx | I can't really |
| 08:35:38 | Torne | it should be happy to partition and format the disk itself, then you should just be able to sendfirm a firmware |
| 08:35:39 | bluefoxx | My main problem currently seems to be that windows 7 doesn't play nice with the gigabeat if it has no drive to boot some kind of firmware that can say "Hey, I have a storage device" |
| 08:35:54 | Torne | It doesn't need the drive to work |
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| 08:36:07 | bluefoxx | bluefoxx.selfip.net/img/scrn/gbs-sansdrvr.png">http://bluefoxx.selfip.net/img/scrn/gbs-sansdrvr.png |
| 08:36:09 | Torne | If the beast detects *anything* it doesn't like about the current state of the drive it just blows the contents away and reinitialises it |
| 08:36:20 | Torne | then waits for an MTP firmware download |
| 08:36:23 | bluefoxx | That's without the drive in the device |
| 08:36:35 | bluefoxx | Er, that's it without the drive while plugged into my machine |
| 08:36:42 | AndrewM | Oh Thx, Torne. Furthermore, does rockbox built in Constant volume Function. For example, I want to keep the volume remains 0db. Like disable the function of volume control. |
| 08:36:50 | Torne | It won't work without the drive in there at all, no |
| 08:36:57 | Torne | how could it? |
| 08:37:02 | Torne | the firmware is stored on the drive.. |
| 08:37:25 | bluefoxx | I get the exact same result with the new drive installed though |
| 08:38:27 | Torne | what does the player do when you power it on? |
| 08:39:02 | Torne | also, i don't know that windows *does8 have a driver for the beast when it's in firmware download mode.. |
| 08:39:14 | Torne | you probably need to use/install the beast updater to get it |
| 08:39:43 | bluefoxx | Gives me the #1 triangle, then the #2 triangle when I plug it in |
| 08:40:28 | Torne | right. so, did you try running the firmware recovery/update thing? |
| 08:41:15 | Stummi | iirc there is a list/statistik of all buildclients somewhere. Where can i find this? |
| 08:41:54 | bluefoxx | bluefoxx.selfip.net/img/scrn/beastupdater.png">http://bluefoxx.selfip.net/img/scrn/beastupdater.png |
| 08:43:12 | bluefoxx | That is, somewhat obviously, with the device plugged in, and the updater failing to see it |
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| 08:46:26 | Torne | ok, i don't recall offhand how that's supposed to work.. |
| 08:46:42 | Torne | try using sendfirm/beastpatcher to send nk.bin to the device. |
| 08:46:53 | Torne | i think we don't need a driver installed |
| 08:47:01 | Torne | as we just use libusb to poke the device directly |
| 08:47:35 | bluefoxx | Also fails. The only time it manages to succeed is when I have some other USB storage device plugged into my system, like a flash drive |
| 08:47:53 | Torne | er, what? |
| 08:47:59 | bluefoxx | It was initially targeting an MMC card I keep memtest on, so it would say it had succeeded, when it hadn't |
| 08:48:13 | Torne | beastpathcer doesn't use a drive letter |
| 08:48:17 | Torne | MTP devices don't have drive letters. |
| 08:48:29 | Torne | and are not USB storage devices at all |
| 08:48:41 | Torne | so, there is no way it can think another device is the beast.. |
| 08:48:48 | bluefoxx | That may be, but this seems to be what's happening |
| 08:48:54 | Torne | what did you run? |
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| 08:49:18 | Torne | no, that's not what's happening.. that's not possible :) |
| 08:49:29 | bluefoxx | bluefoxx.selfip.net/img/scrn/sendfirmmisfire.png">http://bluefoxx.selfip.net/img/scrn/sendfirmmisfire.png |
| 08:50:00 | bluefoxx | First one was with my boot card unplugged, second one I plugged it in and that's where it wound up |
| 08:50:10 | Torne | where what wound up? |
| 08:50:15 | bluefoxx | nk.bin |
| 08:50:21 | Torne | sendfirm doesn't copy files |
| 08:50:33 | Torne | files are not involved :) |
| 08:51:29 | bluefoxx | bluefoxx.selfip.net/img/scrn/bpatchwrongdev.png">http://bluefoxx.selfip.net/img/scrn/bpatchwrongdev.png |
| 08:52:51 | bluefoxx | So if files aren't involved, what exactly are beastpatcher and sendfirm supposed to be doing? |
| 08:53:21 | Torne | they send the contents of nk.bin as a special MTP transfer that makes the device treat it as an update |
| 08:53:25 | Torne | MTP doesn't use files |
| 08:53:55 | Torne | libmtp must be doing something particularly bizarre.. |
| 08:54:05 | Torne | this doesn't happen for me :) |
| 08:54:17 | Torne | it only sees devices that actually implement MTP. |
| 08:54:25 | Torne | mass storage devices are a totally different device class |
| 08:55:31 | Torne | Oh yuck. |
| 08:55:37 | Torne | it's not libmtp on windows |
| 08:55:46 | Torne | it's using ms's media abstraction thingy |
| 08:56:00 | Torne | okay. |
| 08:56:10 | Torne | use an OS where we aren't dependent on MS's drivers to work. |
| 08:56:25 | bluefoxx | Would a virtual machine do? |
| 08:56:44 | bluefoxx | Or cygwin, perhaps? |
| 08:57:03 | bluefoxx | Hang on, I appear to have uninstalled virtualbox :/ |
| 08:57:12 | Torne | a VM will work if the VM program knows how to connect the usb device to the guest, yes |
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| 08:59:31 | Torne | alternatively try and find the driver.. |
| 08:59:39 | Torne | but i have no idea where that's supposed to come from |
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| 08:59:44 | Torne | or if there is one for win64. |
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| 09:00:23 | bluefoxx | Missed everything past ender joining, sorry |
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| 09:07:58 | [Saint] | erll...yes, it's more often than not set in the .sbs |
| 09:08:10 | [Saint] | but, in the lack of an .sbs it is set there. |
| 09:08:21 | [Saint] | s/erll/well/ |
| 09:08:26 | [Saint] | wodz: ^ |
| 09:08:48 | [Saint] | Do you understand the use of a UI viewport? |
| 09:09:19 | bluefoxx | You know, I think MTP support might be broken in this install I have |
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| 09:11:31 | wodz | [Saint]: sorry I fail to parse() your statement |
| 09:11:52 | [Saint] | JdGordon|: The area that isn't UI viewport, or an .sbs viewport isn't being cleared properly when leaving the .wps |
| 09:12:41 | [Saint] | wodz: A UI viewport can be set in the .sbs, and it usually is...in the event that the theme has no .sbs and the author still wants to set a UI viewport, it can be set in the .cfg |
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| 09:14:13 | wodz | ok |
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| 09:18:05 | [Saint] | RaaA doesn't have HOTKEY? |
| 09:18:35 | * | [Saint] can'r seem to imagine why this is the case. |
| 09:18:40 | [Saint] | *can't too. |
| 09:19:27 | [Saint] | it's not like you need multi-touch screens for a key combo....you can just do "hotkey" in a touch area. |
| 09:20:13 | [Saint] | kugel: (logs) - RaaAoA not having HOTKEY is weird. |
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| 09:26:44 | bluefoxx | So I suppose it's safe to assume that little work has been done on the gigabeat S bootloader past what got it working to the point that it does then? IE we haven't figured out how to stop the thing from wiping itself when it sees funny changes on the disk |
| 09:27:49 | Llorean | I will say mine's never wiped itself, but I have mine set up with a dual boot install. |
| 09:28:46 | Unhelpful | Llorean: did you ever update the OF? that's been what generally causes the trouble. dual-boot is only *needed* w/ the update. :/ |
| 09:29:13 | bluefoxx | Llorean: Well I'm trying to upgrade the drive in mine, I can manage to get rockbox on it once, but if I reboot the thing it screams for a reinstall after wiping |
| 09:29:27 | Llorean | Unhelpful: I'm pretty sure I'm dual booting with 1.2 |
| 09:29:38 | Llorean | I've had it actually ask for a reinstall twice. |
| 09:29:48 | Llorean | But rebooting it with a hard power off got it back to Rockbox. |
| 09:30:07 | * | Unhelpful would really like to ditch the OF and have the (much faster) single-boot :/ |
| 09:30:21 | jhMikeS | downgrade? :) |
| 09:30:35 | * | Llorean would like to ditch the flash bootloader, and have USB charging before the disk is spun up |
| 09:30:50 | * | jhMikeS too |
| 09:31:02 | Llorean | That is the one thing my F does better. |
| 09:31:46 | bluefoxx | What I was asking is if anyone has figured out how to make what I suppose effects to the thing's BIOS not bother checking to see that the firmware it's booting is sanctioned or what-have-you |
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| 09:32:56 | jhMikeS | I'd love to work on the ROM aspect, except my first mistake would be my last most likely (unless it can recover from a scrambled i2c rom somehow) |
| 09:33:41 | bluefoxx | Make an image of the chip's contents first, that way you can reflash them when you screw up? |
| 09:34:04 | Llorean | bluefoxx: I think he means he doesn't have the tools to reflash. |
| 09:34:07 | jhMikeS | no guarantee I can do it with the device alone |
| 09:34:11 | bluefoxx | Ah |
| 09:34:32 | bluefoxx | I'd be up for learning how to do it myself if I had the means to deal with the chips in question |
| 09:34:52 | Llorean | jhMikeS: If there's enough room, maybe something like the H100 dual boot, where there's *very* simple code to fall back to the inbuilt ROM on a button hold? |
| 09:35:56 | jhMikeS | Llorean: hmmm....sounds like something to consider |
| 09:36:35 | Llorean | jhMikeS: Then you just flash over the custom code but never, ever, ever touch the safety net again. Of course, the safety net has to work from the get go. |
| 09:36:40 | jhMikeS | there might be a way to recover because there is an inbuilt rom on the i.MX31 that seems to touch usb registers iirc |
| 09:36:58 | Llorean | Some sort of DFU or recovery mode? |
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| 09:39:29 | bluefoxx | Okay, have a fresh ubuntu install in a VM up and running, just need to find out how to turn all the automagical things it does off. |
| 09:41:30 | jhMikeS | Llorean: it's the real boot code that jumps to the flash |
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| 11:16:09 | bluefoxx | Okay, so I have a VM up, I have it able to see the gigabeat, now what do I want to be doing? |
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| 11:32:01 | n1s | bluefoxx: try sending a firmware to it with beastpatcher or sendfirem |
| 11:32:05 | n1s | sendfirm |
| 11:43:13 | bluefoxx | Found sendfirm, how do I make it work here? I'm not familliar with working with raw source code |
| 11:44:07 | bluefoxx | I've successfully compiled something maybe all of twice in my life, and that was when it was all already zipped up for me and typing a couple commands was all I needed to do |
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| 11:45:48 | n1s | it should be available for download somewhere i think, beastpatcher certainly is |
| 11:46:00 | bluefoxx | I managed to find beastpatcher, yeah |
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| 12:01:16 | pixelma | Bagder, Zagor: any of you seen the logs this night with people wondering about some new wiki user names (and this BaseUserMapping thing)? |
| 12:01:54 | * | Bagd3r hasn't |
| 12:03:43 | jhMikeS | n1s: yes |
| 12:04:09 | n1s | jhMikeS: cool, should we perhaps release a new bootloader? |
| 12:04:49 | pixelma | Bagd3r: maybe worth checking to see if there's a security issue |
| 12:04:56 | jhMikeS | maybe. I was thinking I'd clean up the display to do verbose properly and add the splash |
| 12:05:05 | bluefoxx | So I'm trying compile sendfirm.c so that I can actually use it |
| 12:05:18 | n1s | jhMikeS: ok |
| 12:05:21 | bluefoxx | This is all the farther I've managed to get so far |
| 12:05:24 | bluefoxx | http://pastebin.com/Hzt6UqTg |
| 12:05:39 | n1s | how does bootloader updating work btw, just drop nk.bin on the fw partition? |
| 12:05:57 | n1s | bluefoxx: didn't beastpatcher work? |
| 12:06:13 | bluefoxx | n1s: No, it did not |
| 12:06:28 | jhMikeS | n1s: yeah, once you're in, it's that simple |
| 12:06:46 | n1s | bluefoxx: ok, "libmtp.h: No such file or directory" means you need the libmtp headers |
| 12:07:18 | n1s | jhMikeS: i'll try that then, have been meaning to go single boot anyway |
| 12:07:19 | bluefoxx | n1s: How do I get those? |
| 12:07:59 | n1s | bluefoxx: this was ubuntu? sudo apt-get install libmtp-dev should do it |
| 12:08:11 | bluefoxx | I'll do that and try again, thanks |
| 12:08:51 | bluefoxx | ...Beastpatcher seems to have crashed the VM. |
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| 12:13:41 | n1s | ah, firmware restore :) |
| 12:15:47 | n1s | heh, gnome thinks it's a camera in mtp mode |
| 12:18:00 | n1s | hmm, firmware restore again |
| 12:21:01 | bluefoxx | Right, so now after installing libmtp-dev, I get http://pastebin.com/LxnQL4A1 instead |
| 12:21:37 | n1s | then you probably need to install the actual library :) |
| 12:21:53 | n1s | just drop the "-dev" from the other command |
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| 12:22:40 | bluefoxx | Apparently it is installed already, either by default in 10.04 or having hitched a ride with -dev |
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| 12:24:42 | n1s | might be a version mismatch or something, sendfirm isn't maintained anymore i think, since beastpacher should be used |
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| 12:31:32 | n1s | hmm, my old dualboot nk.bin works so maybe i'm at that version where single boot doesn't :/ |
| 12:32:05 | jhMikeS | do the fix |
| 12:32:20 | n1s | how? |
| 12:32:54 | bluefoxx | Does anybody have a copy of the original nk.bin file that does work? |
| 12:32:59 | n1s | also that no backlight after usb hit again so it's not gone only hard to trigger :( |
| 12:33:25 | jhMikeS | see fs#9778 |
| 12:33:59 | n1s | bluefoxx: the one linked in the installation instructions should work |
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| 12:34:48 | bluefoxx | n1s: You mean the one for windows, which can't make heads nor tails of the device sans-firmware? |
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| 12:35:19 | bluefoxx | Whenever I've run it, it's gone and sent nk.bin to an mmc card that sits in a cardreader as a memtest boot disc |
| 12:35:42 | n1s | bluefoxx: ah, you used the updater included in the zip? |
| 12:35:55 | bluefoxx | n1s: See bluefoxx.selfip.net/img/scrn/gb/sendfirmmisfire.png">http://bluefoxx.selfip.net/img/scrn/gb/sendfirmmisfire.png |
| 12:35:55 | n1s | the instructions tell you what to do with the zip |
| 12:36:55 | n1s | (extract the nk.bin file and use it with beastpatcher) |
| 12:37:06 | bluefoxx | I'll try that then |
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| 12:45:27 | n1s | jhMikeS: is there anything else i need to do to my freshly built bootloader nk.bin? i installed the OF from the repair_gigabeats.zip and then used beastpatcher to transfer my bootloader nk.bin and now it wants to restore again |
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| 12:46:20 | jhMikeS | not to my knowledge, you flashed it back to 1.1? |
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| 12:47:28 | n1s | do i actually need to run the updater or is transferring the 1.1 nk.bin enough? |
| 12:47:40 | n1s | because that's what i did and it started fine |
| 12:48:29 | jhMikeS | think you need to run the updater. just dumping the nk.bin won't bring the flash revision back down. |
| 12:48:32 | fml | [Saint]: bidir limit only tells when to scroll in only one direction and when to bounce. Neither case case a pause in between (whether a new scroll round or before scrolling back in the bidir case). |
| 12:49:12 | jhMikeS | better follow that readme |
| 12:49:18 | n1s | ah, so i need to go into windows then |
| 12:50:30 | [Saint] | fml: do you by chance have a synced version of FS #9356? |
| 12:51:06 | n1s | meh, i'll stick with dualboot |
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| 12:56:44 | jhMikeS | lol...a few minutes of windows is worse than dual? |
| 12:57:47 | n1s | mybe i'll do it if i reboot into windows later but i don't really use the beast since i messed up the hp jack on it |
| 12:58:45 | * | jhMikeS has two extra boards with shiny headphone jacks |
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| 13:02:27 | n1s | that's good if you ever break them, the beast hp jack isn't as flimsy as some (sansas) but IIRC it doesn't have any support apart from the solder points |
| 13:03:16 | fml | [Saint]: no, sorry |
| 13:04:27 | [Saint] | that's cool...I was just checking. I saw the post regarding it in the forums and checked it out, as I've increased the timeout for RaaA myself. |
| 13:04:38 | [Saint] | but I didn't make it configurable ;) |
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| 13:09:47 | n1s | jhMikeS: do yu have any suspicions about what causes the problems with single boot after the update? except that it's in flash |
| 13:10:15 | n1s | and where can i find the code that decides it needs a restore? ;) |
| 13:11:22 | PurlingNayuki | Hi, |
| 13:11:24 | PurlingNayuki | Is anyone know a patch to make Rockbox support 24band EQ? |
| 13:11:28 | jhMikeS | no, I don't know yet but it's in the eboot.bin I believe |
| 13:11:37 | PurlingNayuki | I always saw it, but never found. |
| 13:11:55 | bluefoxx | Well, after a minor amount of cussing, I've managed to get beastpatcher to cooperate and just finished tossing a ./rockbox folder onto the second partition |
| 13:12:06 | n1s | jhMikeS: maybe i'll try poking around if i can find some motivation :) |
| 13:12:21 | bluefoxx | I seem to be able to consistantly boot the thing without it eating itself now |
| 13:12:30 | bluefoxx | But instead I get a file not found error |
| 13:12:44 | bluefoxx | Even though I'm quite and rather sure that there's a .rockbox folder there |
| 13:13:25 | jhMikeS | n1s: what's odd is that it seems to have a memory |
| 13:13:47 | jhMikeS | bluefoxx: now you need the .tar trick in the /Content/00/0b00 directory (make it if not there) |
| 13:13:53 | Zagor | pixelma, [Saint], kkurbjun: WikiUsers is automatically edited by the wiki software on registration. these are accounts where the registration process was terminated at some point. so they got an account and a line in WikiUsers but no user page was created. |
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| 13:14:07 | bluefoxx | jhMikeS: Uhm? |
| 13:14:29 | jhMikeS | or dump rockbox.gigabeat in that directory |
| 13:14:38 | [Saint] | Zagor: Thanks, so they are "safe" to remove? |
| 13:15:09 | Zagor | [Saint]: yes, although I think I want to it myself so I can remove their htpasswd lines at the same time |
| 13:15:43 | jhMikeS | bluefoxx: it's /Content/0b00/00/, not what I typed before |
| 13:15:50 | [Saint] | yes, no...sorry for the confusion. I wasn't suggesting I'd do it myself. |
| 13:15:57 | [Saint] | Zagor: ^ |
| 13:16:07 | bluefoxx | jhMikeS: And I want to be moving or copying rockbox into there |
| 13:16:13 | n1s | jhMikeS: how do you mean it has a memory? |
| 13:16:30 | bluefoxx | The disk seems to be working, but it's brilliantly sluggish as far as writes go |
| 13:16:41 | jhMikeS | n1s: afaiu it boots rb once then wants to restore after that |
| 13:17:00 | n1s | jhMikeS: ah, yes it did that for me every time |
| 13:17:43 | n1s | but that boot happens as soon as the mtp transfer completes automatically |
| 13:18:04 | jhMikeS | ah |
| 13:18:22 | jhMikeS | so it could be loading from two different places |
| 13:18:53 | fml | [Saint]: I wondered that we don't have an option for this since in all computers you can e.g. define how quickly you have to click the mouse to make it a double click. It depends very much on the person and makes you feel comfortable. |
| 13:19:31 | jhMikeS | n1s: so after the mtp, there's no reset, correct? (it's been so long I don't remember clearly) |
| 13:19:51 | [Saint] | I had a quick look at syncing the patch, but, most of it needs to be re-written...and I just don't have time right now. |
| 13:19:59 | [Saint] | fml: ^ |
| 13:20:25 | n1s | jhMikeS: hard to say but it boots whatever was uploaded even if the subsequent boot will fail |
| 13:21:06 | jhMikeS | does it go back to the gigabeat splash? |
| 13:21:30 | n1s | now i'm unsure, let me test |
| 13:22:52 | n1s | yes it does |
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| 13:26:20 | fml | [Saint]: first, we need to find out whether it's worth to do it. Nobody seemed to be interested in the feature at that time. |
| 13:27:13 | n1s | jhMikeS: yes, it goes back to the gigabeat splash and you can hear the hd park and spin down |
| 13:27:48 | bluefoxx | Cool |
| 13:28:11 | bluefoxx | Rockbox boots on the thing now, and I can cycle the power without the firmware eating the disk's contents |
| 13:28:26 | bluefoxx | Write speeds however, are positively abysmal. |
| 13:28:27 | n1s | bluefoxx: congratulations |
| 13:28:33 | bluefoxx | less than a meg per second :( |
| 13:28:37 | jhMikeS | ?? |
| 13:28:42 | jhMikeS | read speeds? |
| 13:28:48 | bluefoxx | Reads seem to be fine |
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| 13:30:17 | jhMikeS | Pehaps needing pio on write because of that drive bug? |
| 13:31:25 | jhMikeS | Sounds like it's running PIO0 or something |
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| 13:33:29 | bluefoxx | Averages a relatively flat 14 meg read |
| 13:37:35 | bluefoxx | bluefoxx.selfip.net/img/scrn/gb/dump01.png">http://bluefoxx.selfip.net/img/scrn/gb/dump01.png http://bluefoxx.selfip.net/img/scrn/gb/dump02.png |
| 13:37:55 | bluefoxx | Er, wait |
| 13:38:36 | bluefoxx | There, now those'll work |
| 13:38:50 | bluefoxx | Disk says it's in UDMA4 mode |
| 13:40:33 | jhMikeS | I'm wondering if ata.c is asking for too many sectors to DMA, the driver's limit is 256*512 atm |
| 13:41:15 | jhMikeS | if DMA setup fails for some reason, it uses PIO |
| 13:42:49 | bluefoxx | I tossed a couple of binary dumps into the /gb/ folder too, if those are any help at all |
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| 13:45:32 | bluefoxx | So how would I remedy this? |
| 13:46:34 | jhMikeS | a more cooperative drive :) for the moment anyway |
| 13:46:49 | bluefoxx | >.< |
| 13:47:00 | bluefoxx | I don't have another $90 to toss at another drive |
| 13:47:57 | jhMikeS | it probably should deal with target driver limitations (which can be increased a bit anyway) |
| 13:48:14 | bluefoxx | ...Meaning? |
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| 13:51:05 | jhMikeS | it can't just do whatever lba48 can ask of it, it needs to break it up |
| 13:52:18 | bluefoxx | How hard would this be to fix? |
| 13:53:52 | jhMikeS | not that bad I'd think and it probably should be fixed |
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| 14:03:55 | jhMikeS | I could make a patch and see if it fixes the problem (so it can dma the full memory size) |
| 14:04:32 | jhMikeS | or just make a build |
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| 14:05:47 | bluefoxx | Either of those would be nice. I'd be willing to try doing it myself, but as has been established, I lack an ability to code |
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| 14:11:18 | jhMikeS | I post it after it finishes compiling |
| 14:12:41 | * | PurlingNayuki is tired with compiling again and again. |
| 14:13:36 | jhMikeS | jhmikes.cleansoap.org/rockbox.gigabeat">http://jhmikes.cleansoap.org/rockbox.gigabeat |
| 14:15:29 | bluefoxx | How do I use this file? |
| 14:17:13 | jhMikeS | just overwrite the one in .rockbox |
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| 14:21:11 | bluefoxx | Seems it must be my disk :\ |
| 14:21:42 | bluefoxx | I'm averaging 600KB/s now, but when there's still ~110GB of space to fill |
| 14:22:04 | bluefoxx | Well I get an estimate of 6 hours for eleven and some gigs |
| 14:22:35 | jhMikeS | about the only thing left would be enabling the emulation layer :\ |
| 14:25:14 | bluefoxx | I presume there's documentation on this hiding someplace then? |
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| 14:26:25 | jhMikeS | it's either part of the build or not, not an option |
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| 14:40:37 | CIA-7 | r29095 build result: 44 errors, 0 warnings (teru committed) |
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| 14:57:29 | teru | errors of the last commit seems problem of a build client... |
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| 15:01:06 | n1s | Stummi: somethings up with sdl on your "argon-stummi" (i assume it's yours) |
| 15:01:21 | Stummi | yes its mine |
| 15:01:22 | Stummi | moment |
| 15:02:14 | Stummi | according to log all seems to be ok |
| 15:02:50 | Stummi | i just stopped my buildclient |
| 15:03:12 | n1s | the buils page has a lot of "configure didn't find sdl-config, which indicates that you |
| 15:03:12 | n1s | don't have SDL (properly) installed. Please correct and |
| 15:03:12 | n1s | re-run configure! " |
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| 16:31:53 | jhMikeS | Fuze v2 is considered stable or not (stupid question?) |
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| 16:39:29 | Zagor | wiki says "Rockbox is stable on the Fuze v1 and v2." |
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| 17:00:37 | jhMikeS | Zagor: meh, why am I missing that? I read release stuff and just say "Fuze". It seemed ambiguous (to me anyway). |
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| 17:01:36 | Zagor | I can agree with that |
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| 17:07:35 | bluefoxx | Three hours and I've managed barely seven and some gigs onto the new drive. There must be a way to eke some more speed out of this, 600KB/s write can't be the upper limit for this drive |
| 17:14:04 | Torne | jhMikeS: Rockbox never issues accesses bigger than 256 sectors, afaik |
| 17:14:21 | Torne | jhMikeS: the ATA code supports it, but none of hte clients of the storage system actually try. |
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| 17:20:32 | jhMikeS | Torne: not in PIO mode but in DMA mode setup it just sends the size straight up |
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| 17:49:49 | rasher | http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/RockboxUtility#Known_issues <−− These lists of known issues seem likely to be out of date (referring to 1.2.6 and 1.2.3) |
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| 17:55:52 | pixelma | both seem likely to still exist but I don't know if they do (1.2.3 may only be an issue in some OSs, when I tried last year on an old MacOS (10.4.11) the voicing was completely unusable but it is quite some time ago and may be better on newer or other OSs) |
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| 20:24:09 | dfkt_ | for the hell of it, i can't find the huge repository of unofficial rockbox fonts, hosted on some developer's site, anymore - anyone able to link me? |
| 20:27:00 | kugel | rasher.dk/rockbox/fonts/">http://rasher.dk/rockbox/fonts/ ? |
| 20:27:41 | dfkt_ | thanks kugel, exactly what i was looking for |
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| 20:40:23 | n1s | it looks like that button reading simplification could be done for fuzev1 and e200v2 too |
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| 20:40:59 | bertrik | what simplification? |
| 20:41:17 | n1s | r29079 |
| 20:41:28 | n1s | eh 29097 |
| 20:41:36 | n1s | eg, latest commit |
| 20:42:23 | n1s | seems to be some slight weirdness with the powerbutton though but that can be special cased |
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| 20:59:30 | n1s | bertrik: ah, i see you wrote the last big patch that touched that stuff, do you know why the power button is inversed? |
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| 21:02:41 | bertrik | no, but the power button is of course a bit special because it wakes up the player, I guess it's just the way it's wired |
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| 21:05:24 | n1s | is that reading done in an interrupt or is this stuff polling? |
| 21:05:48 | bertrik | in an interrupt as far as I remember |
| 21:06:24 | bertrik | oh wait, a tick task it was, I think |
| 21:06:50 | bluebroth3r | n1s: I've successfully separated voice string correction strings from voice.pl into a separate file :) |
| 21:07:03 | n1s | ah, i might look into simplifying it this weekend, will probably not have much impact though |
| 21:07:11 | n1s | bluebroth3r: nice :) |
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| 21:08:03 | n1s | i wonder if the cost of running button reading as a tick task is measurable |
| 21:08:26 | bluebroth3r | n1s: Now I need to check that against Qt's regexp documentation. They behave slightly different but unless too advanced features of Perls regexps are used (which shouldn't happen) I don't see much of a problem here. Might be necessary to do some replacement on them before running them through QRegExp. |
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| 21:12:03 | bluebroth3r | n1s: what do you think about the input file format? And all people familiar with Perl, does this look ok? http://pastebin.com/r46FD32r |
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| 21:14:06 | n1s | bluebroth3r: looks fine but isn't the / separator a little confusing? |
| 21:15:32 | n1s | i mean since it's used both in the replacement expression and between the various fields |
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| 21:16:36 | bluebroth3r | no, I treat all fields separately :) |
| 21:17:14 | bluebroth3r | so I have a search and a replacement field. The idea is to be able to use a different separator (I think I did that for one line to try it) |
| 21:17:33 | bluebroth3r | so if a string happens to contain a / you can simply use something else. |
| 21:17:53 | n1s | yes, i just meant that using the same separator char is a little harder to read |
| 21:17:59 | bluebroth3r | hmm. |
| 21:18:12 | n1s | not a big broblem though |
| 21:18:49 | bluebroth3r | I was thinking about tab-separating the fields but thought using / is a bit more to what one is used when knowing regexps |
| 21:19:01 | bluebroth3r | I'm missing syntax hilighting most :) |
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| 21:25:22 | thomasjfox | hey kugel. Does the database play count stuff (most played / recently played tracks) stuff work on android? |
| 21:26:23 | kugel | no idea |
| 21:26:38 | kugel | but you need to enable "gather runtime data" for it to work at all |
| 21:28:07 | thomasjfox | If enabled it |
| 21:28:15 | thomasjfox | It worked for two (?) tracks |
| 21:28:39 | thomasjfox | If = I have ;) |
| 21:28:59 | thomasjfox | Ok, so this probably needs investigation... |
| 21:29:11 | thomasjfox | So far the sigaltstack is running very fine! |
| 21:29:22 | thomasjfox | Use it daily for several hours |
| 21:29:39 | kugel | great |
| 21:29:58 | kugel | did you investigate why the arm one doesn't work? |
| 21:30:07 | thomasjfox | Not yet |
| 21:30:24 | kugel | does gcc use neon for ordinary code? |
| 21:30:41 | thomasjfox | no idea |
| 21:30:45 | kugel | I wonder we need to save the fp registers in the context switch |
| 21:31:03 | thomasjfox | IIRC that was not the source of the issue |
| 21:31:16 | thomasjfox | it was "make dep" / reconfigure |
| 21:31:28 | thomasjfox | but we could try |
| 21:31:57 | kugel | so the arm-asm threads work after make clean? |
| 21:32:25 | thomasjfox | No, it didn't work. |
| 21:32:27 | thomasjfox | Now I remember |
| 21:32:33 | thomasjfox | it was related to the increase of the stack size |
| 21:32:53 | thomasjfox | that's where I needed the "make dep" stuff after switching the thread implementations |
| 21:33:22 | thomasjfox | the arm-asm stuff didn't work for me |
| 21:33:31 | thomasjfox | the fp registers might be worth a try |
| 21:34:02 | thomasjfox | (as I had to enable neon support to get access to some arm assembler related commands) |
| 21:34:57 | kugel | you could try building for armv6, it should work then |
| 21:35:12 | kugel | and if it does it suggests some armv7 special case breaking it |
| 21:35:26 | kugel | but iirc you tried saving r12 and it did work also? |
| 21:36:32 | thomasjfox | the r12 thing was bogus |
| 21:36:45 | thomasjfox | downgrading the arm version is a good idea |
| 21:37:02 | thomasjfox | I'll also steal the neon support from the gcc config |
| 21:37:36 | kugel | did you play with pulseaudio in the meantime? |
| 21:38:33 | thomasjfox | Didn't have time yet. Currently planning a Japan vacation and this sucks up my free time. Hopefully this will be considered done by the weekend. |
| 21:38:54 | thomasjfox | First thing is to refactor the simcc() into maemocc() like you suggested |
| 21:38:59 | kugel | no hurry :) |
| 21:39:36 | thomasjfox | Oh well, I really like to get this upstream :) |
| 21:39:50 | thomasjfox | Pandora port will be next ;) |
| 21:40:11 | thomasjfox | (which will also benefit from the pulseaudio changes) |
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| 22:03:21 | thomasjfox | kugel: ASSEMBLER_THREADS also segfaults in arm v5 mode and disabled neon support |
| 22:03:36 | thomasjfox | kugel: Always at the same place. Here's a backtrace: http://pastebin.com/Yvb8VjDe |
| 22:03:55 | kugel | impossible :) that's the combination we use on android |
| 22:04:08 | thomasjfox | I know |
| 22:04:38 | kugel | can you log the stack usage somehow? |
| 22:05:07 | kugel | I'm willing to believe that my recent change put a bit more pressure on the stack |
| 22:05:11 | thomasjfox | I already increased the stack size to 0x40000 |
| 22:05:17 | thomasjfox | It always crashes at the same place |
| 22:05:35 | thomasjfox | which is rather odd as the thread switches shouldn't be that reproducable |
| 22:05:37 | kugel | does it recompile most of the c files when you change thread.h? |
| 22:05:43 | thomasjfox | I mean, it should crash in different places... |
| 22:06:02 | thomasjfox | I do a "make clean ; make dep ; make -j4" to be on the safe side |
| 22:06:16 | thomasjfox | I do = That's what I -did- |
| 22:06:21 | kugel | is it always the same file? |
| 22:06:25 | thomasjfox | Yes |
| 22:06:38 | kugel | the file could be the culprit |
| 22:06:41 | thomasjfox | I removed it and now it segfaults reproducable at another file |
| 22:06:51 | thomasjfox | let me remove the whole albume |
| 22:07:12 | kugel | you can use .database_ignore |
| 22:08:10 | thomasjfox | now it's another file |
| 22:08:49 | kugel | the last entry only shows ??(), I suspect that's a glibc call. is there a way to get debug symbols for it? |
| 22:08:55 | thomasjfox | one thing I noticed: It crashed around 31534 files and now it crashes after 32786 (not 32768) files |
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| 22:09:20 | thomasjfox | Hmm, I suspected the stack is corrupt and that's why it shows ??() |
| 22:09:36 | kugel | the metadata parser don't yield() afaik |
| 22:09:44 | thomasjfox | The amount of files is pretty close to a full 16 bit value |
| 22:10:15 | kugel | I've successfully scanned 1.3M files |
| 22:11:50 | thomasjfox | Are the registers on arm split like on x86, so you can have 2x 16 bit registers from a single 32bit register if you want? |
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| 22:12:22 | kugel | no |
| 22:14:06 | thomasjfox | I'll just try setting gcc's -mcpu switch to the "lower" CPU of the n8xx |
| 22:15:24 | thomasjfox | same difference |
| 22:16:21 | thomasjfox | too bad valgrind is not running properly (lacking some opcodes of the cortex-a8 cpu) |
| 22:17:56 | kugel | can yo |
| 22:18:09 | kugel | can you install libc6-dbg to see where it crashes? |
| 22:18:35 | thomasjfox | I think it's already installed, let me have a look |
| 22:18:55 | thomasjfox | Yep, already installed |
| 22:19:22 | thomasjfox | I just compared two backtraces from different mp3 files |
| 22:19:45 | wodz | kugel, thomasjfox: have you seen FS #11881 ? |
| 22:19:45 | thomasjfox | Both crash with the same pointer: setid3v2title (fd=25, entry=0x1bceb8) |
| 22:20:12 | kugel | the entry could be always the same |
| 22:21:27 | kugel | I don't think the stack is corrupt, you enlarged it sufficiently I'd say |
| 22:22:10 | kugel | did you try an #error if your stack size is really taken? (you see I'm beginning to get out of ideas) |
| 22:22:12 | thomasjfox | wodz: I guess the iriver h300 simulator uses another LCD_xyz define we didn't exclude for the "fast mode" and the LCD memory layout is not compatible |
| 22:22:34 | thomasjfox | kugel: I'll check it again. I'm running out of ideas, too... |
| 22:23:41 | kugel | one could try to save everything in the context switch that setjmp() also saves. I can't manage to find the setjmp source file in the damned glibc sources though |
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| 22:26:07 | * | fml kindly asks for comments for FS #11892 (Add a delay between text scroll rounds when scrolling forward). If nobody objects I'll commit it in the next days. |
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| 22:26:39 | thomasjfox | wodz: I think I found the source of the issue |
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| 22:27:15 | diode | where in source code do i change charge current sent to fuzeV2? |
| 22:27:23 | thomasjfox | wodz: The remote iriver h300 uses "LCD_REMOTE_PIXELFORMAT VERTICAL_PACKING" |
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| 22:33:00 | thomasjfox | wodz, kugel: Fix for FS #11881: http://pastebin.com/HD9p0jJA |
| 22:34:35 | kugel | isn't LCD_REMOTE_PIXELFORMAT always defined for targets with remote? |
| 22:35:00 | gbl08ma | Hi everyone. Lately, while reading the wiki, I've found some things I could easily update, mainly these things are outdated tables that don't include information for new devices. Also, I want to add some more information about the LUA interpreter that might be useful for people willing to develop for Rockbox in this language |
| 22:35:21 | gbl08ma | So, I'm asking for writing permission. My username on the wiki is GabrielMaia |
| 22:35:50 | AlexP | gbl08ma: One mo |
| 22:36:08 | thomasjfox | kugel: Yes. The fast blit mode doesn't support that, it's either VERTICAL_PACKED or VERTICAL_INTERLEAVED for remote LCDs |
| 22:36:55 | kugel | LCD_REMOTE alone would be a better check I think |
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| 22:37:36 | AlexP | Why does the wiki think every bloody change I make is suspicious? |
| 22:37:42 | thomasjfox | kugel: Is there such a thing? |
| 22:37:48 | AlexP | gbl08ma: OK, done - you should be able to edit stuff now |
| 22:38:01 | n1s | thomasjfox, kugel HAVE_REMOTE_LCD |
| 22:38:03 | kugel | HAVE_LCD_REMOTE (or HAVE_REMOTE_LCD) |
| 22:38:18 | gbl08ma | AlexP: Thanks |
| 22:38:23 | kugel | AlexP: you know why :) |
| 22:38:32 | AlexP | gbl08ma: Did you already register and do what the confirmation email said? |
| 22:38:36 | AlexP | kugel: Thanks :) |
| 22:38:39 | kugel | but seriously, it acts the same for me |
| 22:39:09 | AlexP | Ah well, it is just a little odd, but never mind |
| 22:39:12 | thomasjfox | that's why I didn't find it while grepping for HAVE_LCD_REMOTE ;) |
| 22:39:41 | thomasjfox | kugel: Ok, just change the check to HAVE_REMOTE_LCD |
| 22:40:04 | gbl08ma | AlexP: if the email would have been sent... i don't receive anything |
| 22:40:29 | AlexP | gbl08ma: Check spam etc., as you aren't showing as being registered at the moment I don't think |
| 22:40:38 | AlexP | gbl08ma: So it won't work until you complete that |
| 22:41:09 | gbl08ma | AlexP: btw, just after i sent the submission form, it showed the "suspicious" warning and confirmation, i clicked OK |
| 22:41:26 | AlexP | gbl08ma: yeah, it does that for me too, no idea why |
| 22:42:26 | AlexP | gbl08ma: Have a hunt around for the e-mail, if you haven't got it try prodding either Bagder or Zagor, one of them might be also to push it through |
| 22:43:30 | gbl08ma | AlexP: well, i'm not receiving any email, I'm going do something else and check back later. I entered the email of my site, which is my main email, and always worked with Rockbox things, I'm not sure why it doesn't work now. Perhaps it's just server slowdows. |
| 22:43:52 | thomasjfox | kugel: I verified with #error it takes my stack size. |
| 22:43:55 | AlexP | gbl08ma: Or wiki weirdness |
| 22:45:36 | thomasjfox | kugel: I'll finish the ASSEMBLER_THREADS tests for today. |
| 22:45:46 | gbl08ma | my email is under a afraid.org subdomain, g.ro.lt, perhaps that's preventing the wiki from sending the email. |
| 22:47:31 | AlexP | dunno, I'm not an admin. Let's see if it just got delayed before doing any poking |
| 22:47:50 | kugel | thomasjfox: okay, that's unfortunate :) |
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| 22:48:17 | thomasjfox | kugel: You got something test (soonish)? |
| 22:49:53 | kugel | copying set/loadjmp into load/store_context could be worth a try |
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| 22:49:55 | pixelma | AlexP: I also got the "suspicious change please check again" lately when doing some small changes in the wiki |
| 22:49:55 | gbl08ma | AlexP: I got to go. Tomorrow or later today I'll check if I receive anything and if not, I'll come back here :) thanks for your help, editing the wiki is not urgent for me but it'd be nice if i could help. |
| 22:50:14 | AlexP | gbl08ma: cool :) |
| 22:50:21 | AlexP | pixelma: As long as it isn't just me :) |
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| 22:51:54 | pixelma | maybe something became "overcautious" after the update. There also seem more and more reports about failed registration/activation mails |
| 22:52:01 | thomasjfox | kugel: Let's split this up: You prepare the patch and I brush my teeth. Sounds like team work, heh :o) |
| 22:52:42 | kugel | http://sourceware.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/~checkout~/src/newlib/libc/machine/arm/setjmp.S?rev=1.5&content-type=text/plain&cvsroot=src <- newlib saves fp regs also |
| 22:53:47 | kugel | I'll try |
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| 23:03:12 | kugel | newlib also saves ip, which IIRC is r12? |
| 23:05:12 | kugel | newlib doesn't save fp regs, it's within #if 0 |
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| 23:06:24 | kugel | but uclibc does |
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| 23:16:23 | thomasjfox | hmm. |
| 23:16:41 | thomasjfox | kugel: I have to leave now, sorry |
| 23:16:47 | kugel | no problem |
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| 23:17:12 | thomasjfox | Would be nice if you could apply the fix for fs #11881, I've updated the patch on pastebin |
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| 23:21:51 | thomasjfox | kugel: crap, updating the patch results in a new URL: http://pastebin.com/aexxF2aq is the correct one |
| 23:22:26 | kugel | alright |
| 23:22:42 | thomasjfox | good night |
| 23:22:47 | kugel | good night |
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| 23:27:32 | CIA-7 | New commit by kugel (r29098): Fix FS #11881. Patch by Thomas Jarosch |
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| 23:33:48 | wodz | perl gurus show up: FS #11893 |
| 23:34:16 | CIA-7 | r29098 build result: All green |
| 23:35:37 | kugel | wodz: why perl? :( |
| 23:36:18 | wodz | If you want to rewrite it once more in other language - no problem :-) |
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| 23:37:42 | kugel | if you re-write it completely any you could pick a sane language |
| 23:37:55 | kugel | but that's just my opinion, people seem to like perl |
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| 23:38:29 | newClipUser | hello people, I hooked up 3 AA alkaline batteries to power my sansa clip+ and it runs just fine |
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| 23:58:02 | Rasi | hi |
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| 23:58:11 | Rasi | i have a strange thing with rockbox on my e260v2 |
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| 23:58:37 | Rasi | if i copy music to it, using the rockbox firmware, it happens that it powers off automatically and cannot be turned on again |
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| 23:58:51 | Rasi | after like 20 minutes it works again, suddenly |
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