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00:03:07	Suit_Of_Sables	Hmmm I don't seem to have write permission to my device's "MUSIC" dir. but I can't chown it while it is mounted. I have chowned the mount point but that doesn't seem to help
00:04:31	gevaerts	FAT doesn't have traditional unix permissions
00:05:38	Torne	Only the user who mounted it will be able to write to it
00:05:49	Torne	unless you specifically request otherwise at mount time with options
00:06:47	Suit_Of_Sables	Torne: I mounted it with root yet when I try and rsync with root I get the same error
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00:23:25	sideral	gevaerts, saratoga: It looks like you guys didn't reach a consensus while I was away :)
00:27:27	Suit_Of_Sables	could someone please enlighten me as to how I can mount my vfat samsa fuze as writable under linux? I'm going banannas here
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00:30:49	sideral	Suit_Of_Sables: has your filesystem perhaps been remounted read-only due to filesystem errors? Check dmesg to check.
00:32:31	Suit_Of_Sables	sideral: dmesg \| grep read returns no output
00:33:30	sideral	what does mount say? id? ls -l <mountpoint>?
00:34:23	Suit_Of_Sables	mount returns no error output
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00:35:13	Suit_Of_Sables	drwxr-xr-x from ls -l and root owns the subdirectories
00:35:20	sideral	does it say the vfat fs is mounted rw?
00:36:26	sideral	(I mean mount)
00:36:26	sideral	And what does `id' say?
00:37:04	Suit_Of_Sables	this is the output of ls -l /mnt/point http://pastebin.com/TYu16LBH
00:37:30	Suit_Of_Sables	id outputs uid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root),1(bin),2(daemon),3(sys),4(adm),6(disk),10(wheel),19(log)
00:38:16	Suit_Of_Sables	mount shows the device to be mounted (rw) :/
00:38:57	sideral	hmm... what's the exact error message when attempting to write to the device?
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00:39:36	sideral	Also, have you tried rebooting the device?
00:40:03	Suit_Of_Sables	rsync: recv_generator: mkdir "/mnt/fuze/MUSIC/Neko Case & Her Boyfriends - Furnace Room Lullaby" failed: Permission denied (13)
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00:42:30	sideral	can you write to the device's root directory? try "touch /mnt/fuze/foo"
00:42:53	Suit_Of_Sables	permission denied
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00:43:55	sideral	Have you tried rebooting the device?
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00:50:41	Suit_Of_Sables	one thing that is odd. with the sansa fuze, It is off but goes into the orinial firmware when plugged in, when unplugged it boots into the factory firmware. and I always have to turn it off and on again to get back into rockbox
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00:51:39	sideral	that's normal I guess
00:53:57	sideral	how are you mounting the device? do you do that manually or is it done automatically?
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00:56:00	Suit_Of_Sables	manually
00:56:14	sideral	as root I guess...
00:56:19	Suit_Of_Sables	yeah
00:58:03	Suit_Of_Sables	mount /dev/sdb -t vfat -w /mnt/point
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01:00:54	sideral	stupid question: what's your umask?
01:02:25	Suit_Of_Sables	stupid answer: i don't know. I don't have anything set for this device in fstab
01:03:33	sideral	type "umask"
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01:04:19	Suit_Of_Sables	0022
01:05:21	sideral	I was asking because the mount manpage indicates that the umask is used for all kinds of permission stuff on FAT filesystem. But this looks sane
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01:05:48	*	TheSeven is confused
01:05:56	TheSeven	how does that USB_DETECT_BY_CORE thing work?
01:06:10	TheSeven	if i define that, i can't manage to make it detect USB, no matter what I do
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01:06:21	sideral	Suit_Of_Sables: can you do a "strace touch /mnt/fuze/foo" and report which system call is returning ENOACCESS?
01:07:38	sideral	(or EACCES)
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01:10:02	Suit_Of_Sables	i managed to get it to mount as readable by adding /dev/sdb to fstab with users,rw,owner,umask=000 0 0
01:10:25	Suit_Of_Sables	but this will not always be /dev/sdb when plugged in
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01:12:43	sideral	strange. perhaps some funky udev/hal/policykit interaction. I'm out of ideas.
01:12:51	*	sideral goes bananas as well
01:13:04	Suit_Of_Sables	well thanks for your help! :)
01:13:22	sideral	no problem!
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01:20:52	linuxstb	Suit_Of_Sables: You can use /dev/disk/by-id/whatever (or by-uuid or by-something-else...) instead of /dev/sdb
01:24:22	pamaury	TheSeven: USB_DETECT_BY_CORE means (if I'm correct) that basically the system is notified of usb insertion on the first usb event on the bus (typically, get device descriptor). However I don't really know how the driver initalization works in this case
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01:26:27	TheSeven	pamaury: I basically copied the logic from your AS3525v2 driver
01:26:51	pamaury	you are taking risks :)
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01:29:02	pamaury	Actuallt, I'm not quite sure AS3525v2 uses USB_DETECT_BY_CORE
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01:35:34	pamaury	the usb initialization code is really a mess
01:37:24	CIA-70	New commit by dave (r29287): Remove unused variable "need_full_path" - it was removed in r28592
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01:40:01	pamaury	on as3525 for example, the init path is: ascodec detects insert -> calls usb_insert_int -> set connected=1. At the same time, a usb thread is polling usb status by calling usb_detect. So usb_detec() -> connected==1 -> return USB_POWERED -> usb.c calls usb_enable(true) -> calls usb_core_init -> calls usb_drv_init
01:41:50	CIA-70	r29287 build result: All green
01:43:44	Suit_Of_Sables	argh... rysnc looked like it was working. It made a folder in /mnt/fuze/MUSIC but nothing was written within that folder...
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02:32:18	badcam	Hey Everyone. Could I have some advice please on how to use the [options] in a Bar Tag? I'd like to be able to show the current file position with no background fill bar and only an Image showing the current file position. No prior fill. I presumed I could use something like %pb(x,y,width,height,slider myimage.bmp,nofill) Am I on the right track?
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03:50:24	Suit_Of_Sables	so vfat is a pain in the but. but i suppose it would be a bad idea to make a new file system on my sansa fuze eh? like ext3? it would probobly brick it right?
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05:03:54	S_a_i_n_t	sideral: my issue with FS #11821 has...for lack of a better way of putting it, vanished.
05:04:48	S_a_i_n_t	The end result left the DB in an un-inited state, but I'm not so sure it had anything to do with the actual DB or not.
05:05:33	S_a_i_n_t	SVN magically works again now, without any patches....so...stumped.
05:05:49	S_a_i_n_t	I stil get terrible disk corruption though :/
05:05:56	S_a_i_n_t	*still
05:07:18	S_a_i_n_t	[12:43] <JdGordon1> S_a_i_n_t: ok, if we had a proper "current screen" system... what would you expect the current screen to be when you enter the (example) WPS context menu? <−− I would expect it to have the parent screens titlebar.
05:09:16	S_a_i_n_t	[13:17] <JdGordon1> RaaaAA really should be have an AA scraping activity for when it isnt found locally <−− I suggested using the "albumthumbs" dir on the SDcard if we could understand it a while ago, failing that...embedded AA.
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05:56:13	Suit_Of_Sables	can you turn screen dump on from within the rockbox firmware?
05:56:31	Suit_Of_Sables	oops found it
05:56:46	S_a_i_n_t	as I understand, that's the only way to do so.
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08:44:11	deadatom	hey all
08:46:26	S_a_i_n_t	there are people here...if you have a question about Rockbox, ask away.
08:47:34	deadatom	i will wait i fear.. dont mind me..
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09:16:34	badcam	Yo! I'd appreciate a little help please.
09:19:17	badcam	I'd like to set up a Bar Tag for the progress bar. I'd like there to be no Bar at all. Only a slider.
09:28:04	S_a_i_n_t	%pb(0,0,-,-,slider,slider-bitmap,nobar)
09:28:21	S_a_i_n_t	"slider-bitmap" needs to be %xl'd
09:28:29	S_a_i_n_t	(iiuc)
09:29:26	S_a_i_n_t	hmmm...actually, I don't think slider-image does need to be %xl'd
09:29:29	S_a_i_n_t	try it and see.
09:29:48	S_a_i_n_t	s/slider-image/slider-bitmap/
09:30:42	pixelma	hmm, wouldn't it be more logical if the slider-bitmap and stuff was in () too? I know it currently isn't and I don't know if nested () would work - just thought it would be more inline with other tags
09:31:05	S_a_i_n_t	pixelma: I have thought that myself, actually.
09:31:25	S_a_i_n_t	option,image,option,option is weird.
09:31:45	badcam	So it may be the syntax (?). I have to have a comma between the word slider and the bitmap. Correct? Are slider image and slider bitmap the same?
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09:32:02	S_a_i_n_t	badcam: No.
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09:32:14	S_a_i_n_t	slider-bitmap is the name on your slider bitmap.
09:32:18	S_a_i_n_t	so is "slider"
09:32:29	S_a_i_n_t	s/on/of/
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09:32:35	Luca_S	Hello everybody, just a line to confirm that latest SVN with USE_ROCKBOX_USB works fine on FuzeV2, multiple reinsertions no longer cause USB1.1 mode :-)
09:32:54	S_a_i_n_t	slider == the name of your slider bitmap
09:33:14	S_a_i_n_t	shit!
09:33:19	S_a_i_n_t	don't listen to me ;)
09:33:22	badcam	Say I had a bitmap that was 6 x 6. All I want to see is the Image moving from say left to right, with nothing being filled in behind it on the left side).
09:33:23	*	pixelma still doesn't use bitmap progressbars much, actually all the newer own ones have a drawn progressbar
09:33:47	S_a_i_n_t	haha..."slider" == the slider option, "slider-bitmap" is the name of the bitmap you're using for the slider.
09:33:53	S_a_i_n_t	badcam: ^
09:34:36	pixelma	Luca_S: which OS? I'm asking because I seem to remember that there was more trouble with Rockbox USB on the Fuze v2 with Windows than with linux
09:34:49	Luca_S	Windows 7
09:35:28	badcam	So, I would have something like this −−> %pb(0,0,-,-,slider,mybitmap.bmp,nobar)
09:36:41	S_a_i_n_t	I don't think it needs the extension, but...it might.
09:37:47	S_a_i_n_t	the manual is a little vague...and I didn't follow the "lets pack a million things into the bar-style tags" movement too closely ;)
09:38:11	Luca_S	just started synchronizing an entire 8gb uSD with mediamonkey - btw, the rockbox+mediamonkey combo is great. if only there was a way to sync song rating... :)
09:40:20	pixelma	S_a_i_n_t: you wished for one more parameter yourself ;)
09:40:44	badcam	I've tried a %xl If I use that, then I should be able to use the assigned letter. Correct? Not working for me though. I'll try the %pb with just the name of the bitmap and no .bmp
09:40:45	S_a_i_n_t	pixelma: one out of....how may? ;)
09:41:01	pixelma	don't know, see above
09:44:06	badcam	I'm getting nowhere. Does anyone know of a theme where someone has used a slider image?
09:44:45	pixelma	did you have a look at the theme site?
09:46:52	badcam	Some. There's certainly NOTHING like that on the Clip themes. I'll have another look see...
09:48:13	badcam	Besides, it's hard to tell as they're still images.
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09:49:09	badcam	I'll just have to look for themes that don't look like they have progress bars (or volume bars etc) ;)
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10:05:15	sideral	Luca_S: Can Mediamonkey sync song ratings with another MP3 player, and if so, how is it done?
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10:13:13	pixelma	Luca_S: it's been done for other players, see http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,24936.0.html . If mediamonkey is open source maybe you could get someone to do it or code it yourself
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10:18:58	badcam	The closest I've come so far, to finding a theme that uses Bar Tag Options is S_a_i_n_t 's Symmetry. Heh heh. But, you've only named one of your bitmaps slider. Symmetry Slider.
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10:23:18	pixelma	badcam: the "SMART" ones on the e200 page look like the use a slider
10:23:35	pixelma	the two in the ttop row
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10:27:07	badcam	I'm actually looking at the E200 now. Top row? They just look like standard PB's to me. I'll download them and check for sure...
10:27:09	badcam	thanks.
10:27:13	badcam	:)
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10:30:45	S_a_i_n_t	Symmetry doesn't actually use any of the "advanced" bartag options.
10:31:10	S_a_i_n_t	I named that bitmap looooong before (about a year, probably) those options were in SVN ;)
10:31:57	S_a_i_n_t	and yes, pixelma is correct, SMART and SMARTie themes should give you a clear exapmple of what you need to do to achieve this.
10:32:46	S_a_i_n_t	badcam: when you figure it out, post the syntax here...the wiki/manual may well be incorrect, or, it might be broken in SVN.
10:32:54	S_a_i_n_t	*when/if
10:32:58	badcam	pixelma: None of those use Bar Tag options. And yes S_a_i_n_t exactly as I was saying. You just use the word slider. No bar tags there. Do you recall ever using them in any of your themes?
10:34:24	pixelma	no, as mentioned above I didn't even use bitmapped progressbars lately...
10:37:09	badcam	Smart and Smartie don't use bar tags. In fact, I can't even see a %pb in those WPS's.
10:38:19	pixelma	they do, the progressbar is in the SBS though
10:39:16	badcam	Ah ha! I haven't been near an SBS yet. I'm a WPS kind-a-guy ;) Thanks. I'll look...
10:39:26	S_a_i_n_t	hmmm...the SMART/ie's seem to be different between the different hardware evrsions.
10:39:51	S_a_i_n_t	I do seem to remember a theme doing exactly what you wanted, though. and I'm sure it was one of those two.
10:40:04	badcam	Yup. They're there all right. Excellent.
10:40:38	badcam	Thanks Guys. That'll get me going. Thank you.
10:41:22	S_a_i_n_t	can you paste the syntax out of interest?
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10:42:16	Luca_S	sideral, pixelma: sounds like someone already did the hard work: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=26696.0 :-) i'm gonna try it soon
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10:44:07	badcam	S_a_i_n_t: Is that Q for me?
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10:45:40	badcam	%pb(0,0,98,4,-,slider,I,nofill,nobar) %xl(I,slider.bmp,0,0)
10:45:58	badcam	Why is it in the SBS and not the WPS?
10:47:01	S_a_i_n_t	badcam: so it can be easily re-used without excess code duplication.
10:47:08	S_a_i_n_t	the fms probably uses it too.
10:47:38	badcam	I never knew you could do that. Handy.
10:47:51	S_a_i_n_t	I KNEW I'd been it somewhere before!!
10:47:58	S_a_i_n_t	http://themes.rockbox.org/index.php?themeid=1264&target=ipodcolor <−− badcam
10:48:07	n1s	amiconn: are you fine with closing FS #11921 since it's a hardware bug and already listed in KNOWN_ISSUES ?
10:48:16	S_a_i_n_t	that does exactly what you want, and, he's a good there (in some respects)
10:48:26	S_a_i_n_t	s/there/themer/
10:49:29	amiconn	n1s: yes
10:50:43	n1s	great, closed
10:50:55	*	amiconn thinks that if we ever implement that framewalker, restarting the recording might not even be necessary
10:51:20	n1s	seems unlikely anyone will implement it though
10:51:26	badcam	Great. Plenty to go on, for now. Thanks and have a good night.
10:51:44	amiconn	Since we know it's a bit shift, we could apply bit shift correction on the fly if we're able to detect the shift amount quickly
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12:21:37	Luca_S	uhmmm... is a database refresh expected to be _really_ slow (1hr?) with 10gb of music (fuzev2)?
12:25:39	pamaury	sounds strange
12:25:46	pamaury	did the refresh finish ? Maybe it's stuck
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12:27:30	Luca_S	actually no, it's not finished yet. I can hard reset however
12:28:15	Luca_S	i loaded music with rb usb, it could be that some fat corruption sent it in a loop?
12:30:37	pamaury	possible, there have been report of database refresh never finishing but you should check the fat before
12:31:50	Luca_S	ok, hard reset > rockbox stuck at bootloader image, never loads the main menu. something is wrong.. booting OF now
12:31:52	Luca_S	ok, hard reset > rockbox stuck at bootloader image, never loads the main menu. something is wrong.. booting OF now
12:31:56	Luca_S	mmm cgi lagging, sorry
12:38:32	Luca_S	scandisk found and corrected errors. how can I delete all traces of the database, to try to rebuild it from scratch?
12:40:16	pamaury	in the .rockbox/ directory, there are a few files like database, don't remember the names
12:40:28	Luca_S	rm *.tcd I suppose
12:40:54	Luca_S	can I just delete them?
12:41:15	pamaury	yes
12:41:40	*	pamaury takes no responsability if you accidentaly destroy your device :)
12:41:42	Luca_S	does the db building process require a lot of empty space on the drive? my uSD has about kust 300kb available
12:42:20	Luca_S	pamaury: i'm not worried, there's always the OF :)
12:42:30	Luca_S	s/kust/just
12:42:49	pamaury	I don't remember exactly, it needs temporary space but don't know the amout, depends on the size of the DB I guess
12:43:58	pamaury	ahahahahahahahaha, a mirable happened today, I finally completely bypasses WinCE on my Mio. Now I just need to figure out the format to get rid of it
12:44:16	Luca_S	congrats :D
12:44:49	Luca_S	rebooted in rockbox, it just said playlist control file invalid, I reset the playlist and it's all fine. now let's rebuild the db
12:45:32	Luca_S	it hangs at 317 found :/
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12:46:23	Luca_S	is there a way to find on which file it is stuck?
12:46:59	pamaury	not sure, check the debug screen but I don't think it prints the current file
12:48:05	Luca_S	nope, and if hard reset it hangs at the bootloader image again
12:48:14	Luca_S	let's restart the of...
12:49:04	pamaury	try to run the disk check several times, perhaps there are still errors. Make sure it corrects them
12:49:32	Luca_S	already did that, however I have the suspicion that it's the hard reset that's causing them, not vice versa
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12:51:41	pamaury	yes, but it should not block on db refresh in the first place :)
12:52:08	pamaury	do you have dircache enabled ?
12:52:23	Luca_S	what's dircache? whatever the default is :)
12:53:49	pamaury	default is on, we never know but I doubt it is the reason. This is strange
12:54:13	Luca_S	as soon as the of ends refreshing its db i'll check
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13:02:49	Luca_S	chkdsk found errors and recovered a file, something full of text like /<microSD1>/Music/Apocalyptica/Metallica by Four Cellos/Fade to Black.mp3
13:05:27	Luca_S	a second pass did not find anything. now testing uSD...
13:07:50	AlexP	pamaury: Is default on? It hasn't been for years and years
13:08:02	AlexP	But I may have missed it being switched :)
13:08:58	pamaury	ah no you're right :)
13:09:30	Luca_S	dircache is on
13:09:36	Luca_S	should I try turning it off?
13:10:07	pamaury	yes you can try
13:13:50	Luca_S	ok, with dircache off it successfully rebuilt the internal memory database (i had unplugged the usd)
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13:14:09	Luca_S	now i plugged in the usd and started a db update
13:14:18	Luca_S	i'm also in the debug > db screen
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13:14:33	Luca_S	and it shows the songs paths as soon as it scans them
13:14:49	Luca_S	and... it stopped with curfile: −−- :/
13:15:57	pamaury	then maybe it's stuck after the scanning, when committing
13:16:03	Luca_S	if I unplug the usd, the process resumes with local files
13:16:16	Luca_S	no, it has resumed scanning...
13:16:21	AlexP	Maybe it needs a bit of tempory space on the µSD
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13:16:36	Luca_S	AlexP: I left 10Mb
13:17:02	AlexP	I've no idea how much if any, I don't use the database so have no experience
13:17:58	pamaury	how many left space on the flash ? (the sb is not important)
13:18:08	Luca_S	>2 Gb
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13:22:12	CIA-70	r29288 build result: All green
13:24:48	Luca_S	yep, it's definitely something with the uSD or the files that are over there. when asking to update the db it hangs and restarts only if i unplug the uSD, after that the process works fine, it even commits after a reboot
13:25:51	pamaury	Luca_S: can you build a custom rockbox firmware or are you using the prebuilt images ?
13:26:22	Luca_S	I'm using a custom image (defined USE_ROCKBOX_USB)
13:27:09	pamaury	ok, so can you modify a bit the code to enable logging for the database, this way you'll have more information on what is going on
13:27:18	Luca_S	great!
13:27:27	S_a_i_n_t	isn't that already in SVN?
13:27:42	S_a_i_n_t	I'm damn sure DB logging was committed.
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13:27:54	pamaury	S_a_i_n_t: on by default ? I doubt it
13:28:02	S_a_i_n_t	it's in the debug menu.
13:28:20	pamaury	but it's not enable
13:28:25	pamaury	it's not global
13:28:41	S_a_i_n_t	system - debug - metadata log
13:28:43	pamaury	each file can enable or not the log output. By default nothing is logged
13:28:57	S_a_i_n_t	you simply need enable it, in SVN.
13:29:03	S_a_i_n_t	it's right there in the debug menu.
13:29:17	pamaury	yes, you need to enable it
13:29:31	S_a_i_n_t	but by "enable", I mean, "select from a menu"
13:29:36	S_a_i_n_t	no compile necessary
13:29:56	pamaury	really ? And what is logged ?
13:30:09	S_a_i_n_t	yes.
13:30:50	S_a_i_n_t	it logs each file that's touched during the db update, and if it fails...the last entry is where it failed as I understand it.
13:30:56	Luca_S	just to be sure, let's try S_a_i_n_t's way, it will be a quick test
13:31:03	pamaury	ok
13:31:29	pamaury	but if it just logs the file, it will not be sufficient if it fails after (like on comitting)
13:32:07	S_a_i_n_t	I'm not quite so sure what it logs, only that it was created for this purpose.
13:32:53	*	pamaury missed that
13:33:32	Luca_S	where should the log reside?
13:33:45	CIA-70	New commit by jethead71 (r29289): Oops. Put back some changes to go only with others.
13:35:36	pamaury	apparently in system > debug > metadata log
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13:38:03	pamaury	Luca_S: my mistake, looking at the code, you first enable it with system > debug > metadata log and then everything is written to /metadata.log
13:38:15	pamaury	(in a rather inefficient way, so you disable it afterwards)
13:38:29	Luca_S	pamaury: don't worry, I have something stranger: with the metadata log enabled, it's working!
13:41:15	pamaury	there is weird :-/
13:42:03	Luca_S	no, ok, it locked after a lot of parsing
13:42:09	Luca_S	the metadata log is there, let's se
13:42:11	Luca_S	see
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13:44:53	Luca_S	ok, it logs file names only. not bad. is there some tool I can point the file to and get an integrity report? mp3tag says nothing especial.
13:45:25	Luca_S	actually, i will just delete it and let it run again
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13:51:02	Luca_S	i have an idea... where is the database file?
13:51:07	Luca_S	the source file I mean
13:52:35	pamaury	apps/tagcache.c
13:53:15	pamaury	if you want more debugging, you can enable much more precise logging
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13:54:04	Luca_S	how? I think that it fails on files that have the 'Date' tag set to 'yyyy-mm-', without a day (Musicbrainz tagger does that sometimes)
13:54:51	pamaury	rerun configure, do an advanced build and enable logf. Then in apps/tagcache.c, you add #define LOGF_ENABLE just BEFORE #include "logf.h"
13:55:38	Luca_S	ok
13:55:39	pamaury	Luca_S: which tags ? (MP3 ?)
13:56:03	pamaury	actually, the tagcache.c itself doesn't do tag parsing, it's the metadata parsers' job
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13:56:43	Luca_S	ID3v2.4, tag YEAR, value "2005-02"
13:57:48	pamaury	huh, 2005-02 is hardly a year :)
13:58:35	pamaury	then you can have a look at apps/metadata/{metadata_common.c,id3tags.c}
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14:04:56	Luca_S	it seems fine to me... id3tags does just an atoi of the input string to get the year, which should work. back to square one...
14:06:12	Luca_S	let's do a logf build
14:09:16	Luca_S	it's not my day :D configure halted :D
14:09:57	Luca_S	it freezes right after "logf support enabled"
14:10:02	Buschel	jhMikeS: r28289 survived some heavy skipping fwd/rwd, rebuffering and seeking so far −− including album art loading. are there any special use cases I should test? or should I just let it play for some hours?
14:10:35	Luca_S	let's Ctrl+C and build anyway
14:11:06	Buschel	(on iPod Video 30GB, btw)
14:11:08	jhMikeS	Buschel: I've been playing on my clip for hours with albums alternating track ogg/mp3 without issues. I'd just say try to beat the heck out of it.
14:11:16	Buschel	:)
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14:18:15	Buschel	locked up :/
14:18:17	jhMikeS	There's still only one spot I found where the overflow could happen
14:18:38	sideral	Luca_S: you could quickly test your earlier theory (year-month-nothing breakage) by removing the file in question, retry the DB build, and in a second step putting it back (or throwing a bootload of test files with this signature on your player)
14:18:45	jhMikeS	Buschel: what sort of lockup? hard?
14:19:20	Buschel	quite hard, it even does not swith off the backlight. no reaction, will reset now
14:20:00	Buschel	I played an atrac3 (high cpu load) and selected a AAC-HE file for playack via file browser.
14:20:07	jhMikeS	pure SVN or the patch I have?
14:20:11	Buschel	it shows "loading..." −− since minutes
14:20:25	Buschel	svn @r28289
14:21:22	*	S_a_i_n_t seems to have some complicated balance of svn and various patch magic going on in his buffering code.
14:21:41	jhMikeS	hmm...there's still not the other fixes
14:22:06	Buschel	jhMikeS: of course this is not reproducible...
14:23:53	pamaury	omg, it works !!!!!
14:23:53	jhMikeS	is dircache enabled (recall that randomness I and others had)?
14:24:08	pamaury	I can run custom code on my mio with a custom wince image \o/
14:24:46	Buschel	jhMikeS: yes, dircache is activated
14:25:15	Luca_S	sideral: I just ruled out my theory - it crashed on a file without date tags...
14:25:33	Luca_S	pamaury: congratulations! but which device?
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14:26:02	pamaury	mio c510e, it's a GPS device :)
14:26:20	Luca_S	WTF!
14:26:21	Luca_S	:D
14:26:31	*	S_a_i_n_t demands the rockbox port for it yesterday!
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14:27:23	Luca_S	sure it's a strange device to port rockbox on :D
14:28:01	pamaury	well, apart from the fact that is has a GPS receiver, it's a perfect rockbox device: touchscreen, HP, audio out, mic, bluetooth, usb
14:28:25	pamaury	except that it runs windows ce :-[
14:28:44	pamaury	and it's using a s3c2440 for which rockbox has a port
14:28:51	Buschel	wtf. I was playing mp3 files from a folder and skipped fwd/rwd haevily. somehow it now entered a sub-folder and plays file from it. I did not enter the file browser to move to this folder...
14:29:25	Luca_S	with GPS and bluetooth, I demand Facebook integration in rockbox! -> /me is listening to Whatever
14:29:27	Luca_S	:)
14:29:38	Luca_S	congratulations - going to have lunch now, see you
14:30:01	jhMikeS	Buschel: I doubt it could get that info except from the playlist
14:30:33	pamaury	who told me a device also had a wince kernel and could benefit from my hacking on the format ?
14:30:37	Buschel	jhMikeS: I don't think this is caused by your changes. just another underlying issue rockbox has...
14:31:36	jhMikeS	Buschel: folders don't always play in the expected order I've noticed...going in reverse vs. forward :)
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14:33:32	Buschel	in the forums there is the next guy reporting iPod Video does not play any files using 3.7.1
14:33:49	Buschel	strange...
14:34:58	jhMikeS	hmmm...clearly not the case for everyone
14:35:07	Llorean	Buschel: Sometimes people think they're using the release, when they're really talking about the current build. There's this whole "3.7.1 means ever version after that came out right?" thought process.
14:35:13	Llorean	It might be best to double check somehow
14:37:11	Buschel	Llorean: good point, just asked him how current build behaves. maybe I'll just ask for the revision in the info screen to be sure
14:38:04	jhMikeS	which topic is that?
14:38:52	Buschel	http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,27227.0.html
14:40:49	jhMikeS	bad COP? :)
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14:43:02	jhMikeS	out of sync .lang files can do that too (just a thought)
14:43:42	S_a_i_n_t	Buschel: You may want to check what "rebooted" means also.
14:44:01	S_a_i_n_t	he's probably riddled with disk corruption from menu+select resets
14:44:16	jhMikeS	won't a restore fix that?
14:45:57	jhMikeS	greylib is just so wrong on OLED :\
14:46:23	jhMikeS	fire looks more like "millions of fleas jumping"
14:47:04	S_a_i_n_t	by tge sounds of his last post, he could easily have a corrupted disk.
14:47:12	S_a_i_n_t	*the
14:48:07	S_a_i_n_t	rebooting while the db is trying to init, where I almost guarantee that "rebooting" is a hard reset.
14:48:20	Buschel	just asked if it is possible for him to join us here
14:55:43	jhMikeS	Buschel: I can haz commit patch? I'm not convinced one can rule out buffer without it (or blame it for anything new that show itself).
14:58:42	Buschel	jhMikeS: you're talking of submitting the large patch in FS #11863?
14:58:56	jhMikeS	yeah
14:59:53	jhMikeS	I'd rather any real testing be done with it
14:59:56	Buschel	I'd say -> submit. The playback/buffering is buggy as it is. If the patch gives the chance to fix some bugs it should go in. If there sould occure too many side effects we could just remove it from the 3.8 release..
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15:00:43	Buschel	I will put it on my iPod immediately and let it run for a while :)
15:00:46	jhMikeS	righto
15:01:00	S_a_i_n_t	oh...wow, I can stop watching/syncing that mess in my tree now, excellent ;)
15:01:01	jhMikeS	I've been using that change all week
15:01:10	*	S_a_i_n_t too
15:02:28	Buschel	any ideas how to proceed with all those multiple bug reports? I would like to reduce it to a few reports kept open (e.g. FS #11863) and close the others...
15:03:08	jhMikeS	which in particular?
15:04:11	Buschel	for example: 11390, 11764, 11846. maybe 11775
15:04:42	Buschel	maybe also 11746
15:05:05	jhMikeS	11390, wtf?
15:05:11	Buschel	they are stated as "related tasks" in FS #11863
15:06:32	jhMikeS	was 11390 pre-EABI? I had the same issue but it just vanished and never returned.
15:06:50	jhMikeS	I think there was a conflict after some skin change with the DMA blob
15:08:50	jhMikeS	Llorean: Is FS #11390 still valid?
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18:04:21	sideral	very unlikely, unless you've enabled autoresume
18:04:35	sideral	I'd suspect the recent buffering changes...
18:05:01	sideral	bisect?
18:05:22	TheSeven	well it behaved a bit as if it wanted to prevent me from losing a resume position, but i haven't enabled any of those features, at least not intentionally, and it seemed to behave inconsistent
18:06:08	TheSeven	in the middle of a track, i skipped forward to the next one, decided that i didn't like that one as well, and skipped some more tracks forward
18:06:36	TheSeven	things didn't get better, so i decided to go backwards instead, back to the beginning of the track i had been listening before starting to skip around
18:07:10	TheSeven	while skipping back, it always jumped into the middle of songs, which confused me, as i couldn't get back to their beginning
18:07:25	TheSeven	after that, when skipping forward again, I also ended up in the middle of songs
18:07:43	TheSeven	is there any feature that would cause such behavior?
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18:09:14	TheSeven	what I have enabled is this "pause/resume on headphone plug/unplug" thing
18:10:27	[Saint]	TheSeven: Buschel reported heavy seeking in SVN head ended him up in a subdir earlier
18:10:39	[Saint]	also unreproducible
18:11:05	[Saint]	and I mean, how the fck does that happen?
18:11:22	TheSeven	well, there seem to be two cans of race conditions in rockbox
18:11:32	TheSeven	one is skipping vs. buffering vs. whatever
18:11:39	TheSeven	the other one is plugging/unplugging USB
18:12:34	[Saint]	jhMikeS mention submitting the FS #11863 though I'm not sure he has yet.
18:12:53	[Saint]	he's looked at buffering quite extensively iiuc
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22:28:28	CIA-70	New commit by dave (r29290): Use target names instead of model numbers in #if statements - nowhere else uses MODEL_NUMBER.
22:32:32	CIA-70	r29290 build result: All green
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22:43:17	wodz	what is the difference in arm asm between mov r0, #0x30000000 and ldr r0,=0x30000000 ?
22:46:05	badcam	Can anyone confirm if the "nobar" option in Bar Tags actually works? Example: %pb(0,0,-,-,-,slider,T,nobar)
22:46:13	benedikt93	wodz: the latter is IIRC only some pseudo-instruction which the assembler will resolve to something like the first one or some ldr r0, [PC,#whatever] depending on the value
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22:51:12	wodz	So what's the purpose of ldr variant? Are there some constraints of immediate argument to mov?
22:52:05	Buschel	wodz: afaik there are restrictions to the first variant.
22:53:31	benedikt93	it can only be a 8bit value shifted to any even bit position in a 32bit word
22:53:49	Buschel	yes, something like this
22:54:17	pamaury	wodz: simple enough, each arm instruction is 32-bit width, so you can't load any constant :)
22:54:23	pamaury	*wide
22:55:16	wodz	ok, so in general one should just write ldr r0,=0xabcdef00 and let the asembler do the job right?
22:55:53	pamaury	yes
22:56:00	wodz	thanks
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22:59:19	badcam	Strike my request. I've found that the Simulator still shows the bar but after transferring the cope to the MP3 player, I see it's working fine in there.
22:59:33	badcam	cope s/b code
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23:02:16	wodz	pamaury: bertrik I guess
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