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#rockbox log for 2011-02-12

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00:03:07Suit_Of_SablesHmmm I don't seem to have write permission to my device's "MUSIC" dir. but I can't chown it while it is mounted. I have chowned the mount point but that doesn't seem to help
00:04:31gevaertsFAT doesn't have traditional unix permissions
00:05:38TorneOnly the user who mounted it will be able to write to it
00:05:49Torneunless you specifically request otherwise at mount time with options
00:06:47Suit_Of_SablesTorne: I mounted it with root yet when I try and rsync with root I get the same error
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00:23:25sideralgevaerts, saratoga: It looks like you guys didn't reach a consensus while I was away :)
00:27:27Suit_Of_Sablescould someone please enlighten me as to how I can mount my vfat samsa fuze as writable under linux? I'm going banannas here
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00:30:49sideralSuit_Of_Sables: has your filesystem perhaps been remounted read-only due to filesystem errors? Check dmesg to check.
00:32:31Suit_Of_Sablessideral: dmesg | grep read returns no output
00:33:30sideralwhat does mount say? id? ls -l <mountpoint>?
00:34:23Suit_Of_Sablesmount returns no error output
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00:35:13Suit_Of_Sablesdrwxr-xr-x from ls -l and root owns the subdirectories
00:35:20sideraldoes it say the vfat fs is mounted rw?
00:36:26sideral(I mean mount)
00:36:26sideralAnd what does `id' say?
00:37:04Suit_Of_Sablesthis is the output of ls -l /mnt/point
00:37:30Suit_Of_Sablesid outputs uid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root),1(bin),2(daemon),3(sys),4(adm),6(disk),10(wheel),19(log)
00:38:16Suit_Of_Sablesmount shows the device to be mounted (rw) :/
00:38:57sideralhmm... what's the exact error message when attempting to write to the device?
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00:39:36sideralAlso, have you tried rebooting the device?
00:40:03Suit_Of_Sablesrsync: recv_generator: mkdir "/mnt/fuze/MUSIC/Neko Case & Her Boyfriends - Furnace Room Lullaby" failed: Permission denied (13)
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00:42:30sideralcan you write to the device's root directory? try "touch /mnt/fuze/foo"
00:42:53Suit_Of_Sablespermission denied
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00:43:55sideralHave you tried rebooting the device?
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00:50:41Suit_Of_Sablesone thing that is odd. with the sansa fuze, It is off but goes into the orinial firmware when plugged in, when unplugged it boots into the factory firmware. and I always have to turn it off and on again to get back into rockbox
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00:51:39sideralthat's normal I guess
00:53:57sideralhow are you mounting the device? do you do that manually or is it done automatically?
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00:56:14sideralas root I guess...
00:58:03Suit_Of_Sablesmount /dev/sdb -t vfat -w /mnt/point
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01:00:54sideralstupid question: what's your umask?
01:02:25Suit_Of_Sablesstupid answer: i don't know. I don't have anything set for this device in fstab
01:03:33sideraltype "umask"
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01:05:21sideralI was asking because the mount manpage indicates that the umask is used for all kinds of permission stuff on FAT filesystem. But this looks sane
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01:05:48*TheSeven is confused
01:05:56TheSevenhow does that USB_DETECT_BY_CORE thing work?
01:06:10TheSevenif i define that, i can't manage to make it detect USB, no matter what I do
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01:06:21sideralSuit_Of_Sables: can you do a "strace touch /mnt/fuze/foo" and report which system call is returning ENOACCESS?
01:07:38sideral(or EACCES)
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01:10:02Suit_Of_Sablesi managed to get it to mount as readable by adding /dev/sdb to fstab with users,rw,owner,umask=000 0 0
01:10:25Suit_Of_Sablesbut this will not always be /dev/sdb when plugged in
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01:12:43sideralstrange. perhaps some funky udev/hal/policykit interaction. I'm out of ideas.
01:12:51*sideral goes bananas as well
01:13:04Suit_Of_Sableswell thanks for your help! :)
01:13:22sideralno problem!
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01:20:52linuxstbSuit_Of_Sables: You can use /dev/disk/by-id/whatever (or by-uuid or by-something-else...) instead of /dev/sdb
01:24:22pamauryTheSeven: USB_DETECT_BY_CORE means (if I'm correct) that basically the system is notified of usb insertion on the first usb event on the bus (typically, get device descriptor). However I don't really know how the driver initalization works in this case
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01:26:27TheSevenpamaury: I basically copied the logic from your AS3525v2 driver
01:26:51pamauryyou are taking risks :)
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01:29:02pamauryActuallt, I'm not quite sure AS3525v2 uses USB_DETECT_BY_CORE
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01:35:34pamaurythe usb initialization code is really a mess
01:37:24CIA-70New commit by dave (r29287): Remove unused variable "need_full_path" - it was removed in r28592
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01:40:01pamauryon as3525 for example, the init path is: ascodec detects insert -> calls usb_insert_int -> set connected=1. At the same time, a usb thread is polling usb status by calling usb_detect. So usb_detec() -> connected==1 -> return USB_POWERED -> usb.c calls usb_enable(true) -> calls usb_core_init -> calls usb_drv_init
01:41:50CIA-70r29287 build result: All green
01:43:44Suit_Of_Sablesargh... rysnc looked like it was working. It made a folder in /mnt/fuze/MUSIC but nothing was written within that folder...
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02:32:18badcamHey Everyone. Could I have some advice please on how to use the [options] in a Bar Tag? I'd like to be able to show the current file position with no background fill bar and only an Image showing the current file position. No prior fill. I presumed I could use something like %pb(x,y,width,height,slider myimage.bmp,nofill) Am I on the right track?
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03:50:24Suit_Of_Sablesso vfat is a pain in the but. but i suppose it would be a bad idea to make a new file system on my sansa fuze eh? like ext3? it would probobly brick it right?
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05:03:54S_a_i_n_tsideral: my issue with FS #11821 has...for lack of a better way of putting it, vanished.
05:04:48S_a_i_n_tThe end result left the DB in an un-inited state, but I'm not so sure it had anything to do with the actual DB or not.
05:05:33S_a_i_n_tSVN magically works again now, without any*stumped*.
05:05:49S_a_i_n_tI stil get terrible disk corruption though :/
05:07:18S_a_i_n_t[12:43] <JdGordon1> S_a_i_n_t: ok, if we had a proper "current screen" system... what would you expect the current screen to be when you enter the (example) WPS context menu? <−− I would expect it to have the parent screens titlebar.
05:09:16S_a_i_n_t[13:17] <JdGordon1> RaaaAA really should be have an AA scraping activity for when it isnt found locally <−− I suggested using the "albumthumbs" dir on the SDcard if we could understand it a while ago, failing that...embedded AA.
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05:56:13Suit_Of_Sablescan you turn screen dump on from within the rockbox firmware?
05:56:31Suit_Of_Sablesoops found it
05:56:46S_a_i_n_tas I understand, that's the *only* way to do so.
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08:44:11deadatomhey all
08:46:26S_a_i_n_tthere are people here...if you have a question about Rockbox, ask away.
08:47:34deadatomi will wait i fear.. dont mind me..
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09:16:34badcamYo! I'd appreciate a little help please.
09:19:17badcamI'd like to set up a Bar Tag for the progress bar. I'd like there to be no Bar at all. Only a slider.
09:28:21S_a_i_n_t"slider-bitmap" needs to be %xl'd
09:29:26S_a_i_n_thmmm...actually, I don't think slider-image *does* need to be %xl'd
09:29:29S_a_i_n_ttry it and see.
09:30:42pixelmahmm, wouldn't it be more logical if the slider-bitmap and stuff was in () too? I know it currently isn't and I don't know if nested () would work - just thought it would be more inline with other tags
09:31:05S_a_i_n_tpixelma: I have thought that myself, actually.
09:31:25S_a_i_n_toption,image,option,option is weird.
09:31:45badcamSo it may be the syntax (?). I have to have a comma between the word slider and the bitmap. Correct? Are slider image and slider bitmap the same?
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09:32:02S_a_i_n_tbadcam: No.
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09:32:14S_a_i_n_tslider-bitmap is the name on your slider bitmap.
09:32:18S_a_i_n_tso is "slider"
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09:32:35Luca_SHello everybody, just a line to confirm that latest SVN with USE_ROCKBOX_USB works fine on FuzeV2, multiple reinsertions no longer cause USB1.1 mode :-)
09:32:54S_a_i_n_tslider == the name of your slider bitmap
09:33:19S_a_i_n_tdon't listen to me ;)
09:33:22badcamSay I had a bitmap that was 6 x 6. All I want to see is the Image moving from say left to right, with nothing being filled in behind it on the left side).
09:33:23*pixelma still doesn't use bitmap progressbars much, actually all the newer own ones have a drawn progressbar
09:33:47S_a_i_n_thaha..."slider" == the slider option, "slider-bitmap" is the name of the bitmap you're using for the slider.
09:33:53S_a_i_n_tbadcam: ^
09:34:36pixelmaLuca_S: which OS? I'm asking because I seem to remember that there was more trouble with Rockbox USB on the Fuze v2 with Windows than with linux
09:34:49Luca_SWindows 7
09:35:28badcam So, I would have something like this −−> %pb(0,0,-,-,slider,mybitmap.bmp,nobar)
09:36:41S_a_i_n_tI don't *think* it needs the extension, might.
09:37:47S_a_i_n_tthe manual is a little vague...and I didn't follow the "lets pack a million things into the bar-style tags" movement too closely ;)
09:38:11Luca_Sjust started synchronizing an entire 8gb uSD with mediamonkey - btw, the rockbox+mediamonkey combo is great. if only there was a way to sync song rating... :)
09:40:20pixelmaS_a_i_n_t: you wished for one more parameter yourself ;)
09:40:44badcamI've tried a %xl If I use that, then I should be able to use the assigned letter. Correct? Not working for me though. I'll try the %pb with just the name of the bitmap and no .bmp
09:40:45S_a_i_n_tpixelma: one out may? ;)
09:41:01pixelmadon't know, see above
09:44:06badcamI'm getting nowhere. Does anyone know of a theme where someone has used a slider image?
09:44:45pixelmadid you have a look at the theme site?
09:46:52badcamSome. There's certainly NOTHING like that on the Clip themes. I'll have another look see...
09:48:13badcamBesides, it's hard to tell as they're still images.
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09:49:09badcamI'll just have to look for themes that don't look like they have progress bars (or volume bars etc) ;)
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10:05:15sideralLuca_S: Can Mediamonkey sync song ratings with another MP3 player, and if so, how is it done?
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10:13:13pixelmaLuca_S: it's been done for other players, see,24936.0.html . If mediamonkey is open source maybe you could get someone to do it or code it yourself
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10:18:58badcamThe closest I've come so far, to finding a theme that uses Bar Tag Options is S_a_i_n_t 's Symmetry. Heh heh. But, you've only named one of your bitmaps slider. Symmetry Slider.
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10:23:18pixelmabadcam: the "SMART" ones on the e200 page look like the use a slider
10:23:35pixelmathe two in the ttop row
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10:27:07badcamI'm actually looking at the E200 now. Top row? They just look like standard PB's to me. I'll download them and check for sure...
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10:30:45S_a_i_n_tSymmetry doesn't actually use any of the "advanced" bartag options.
10:31:10S_a_i_n_tI named that bitmap *looooong* before (about a year, probably) those options were in SVN ;)
10:31:57S_a_i_n_tand yes, pixelma is correct, SMART and SMARTie themes should give you a clear exapmple of what you need to do to achieve this.
10:32:46S_a_i_n_tbadcam: when you figure it out, post the syntax here...the wiki/manual may well be incorrect, or, it might be broken in SVN.
10:32:58badcampixelma: None of those use Bar Tag options. And yes S_a_i_n_t exactly as I was saying. You just use the word slider. No bar tags there. Do you recall ever using them in any of your themes?
10:34:24pixelmano, as mentioned above I didn't even use bitmapped progressbars lately...
10:37:09badcamSmart and Smartie don't use bar tags. In fact, I can't even see a %pb in those WPS's.
10:38:19pixelmathey do, the progressbar is in the SBS though
10:39:16badcamAh ha! I haven't been near an SBS yet. I'm a WPS kind-a-guy ;) Thanks. I'll look...
10:39:26S_a_i_n_thmmm...the SMART/ie's seem to be different between the different hardware evrsions.
10:39:51S_a_i_n_tI do seem to remember a theme doing exactly what you wanted, though. and I'm sure it was one of those two.
10:40:04badcamYup. They're there all right. Excellent.
10:40:38badcamThanks Guys. That'll get me going. Thank you.
10:41:22S_a_i_n_tcan you paste the syntax out of interest?
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10:42:16Luca_Ssideral, pixelma: sounds like someone already did the hard work: :-) i'm gonna try it soon
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10:44:07badcamS_a_i_n_t: Is that Q for me?
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10:45:40badcam%pb(0,0,98,4,-,slider,I,nofill,nobar) %xl(I,slider.bmp,0,0)
10:45:58badcamWhy is it in the SBS and not the WPS?
10:47:01S_a_i_n_tbadcam: so it can be easily re-used without excess code duplication.
10:47:08S_a_i_n_tthe fms probably uses it too.
10:47:38badcamI never knew you could do that. Handy.
10:47:51S_a_i_n_tI KNEW I'd been it somewhere before!!
10:47:58S_a_i_n_t <−− badcam
10:48:07n1samiconn: are you fine with closing FS #11921 since it's a hardware bug and already listed in KNOWN_ISSUES ?
10:48:16S_a_i_n_tthat does *exactly* what you want, and, he's a good there (in some respects)
10:49:29amiconnn1s: yes
10:50:43n1sgreat, closed
10:50:55*amiconn thinks that if we ever implement that framewalker, restarting the recording might not even be necessary
10:51:20n1sseems unlikely anyone will implement it though
10:51:26badcamGreat. Plenty to go on, for now. Thanks and have a good night.
10:51:44amiconnSince we know it's a bit shift, we could apply bit shift correction on the fly if we're able to detect the shift amount quickly
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12:21:37Luca_Suhmmm... is a database refresh expected to be _really_ slow (1hr?) with 10gb of music (fuzev2)?
12:25:39pamaurysounds strange
12:25:46pamaurydid the refresh finish ? Maybe it's stuck
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12:27:30Luca_Sactually no, it's not finished yet. I can hard reset however
12:28:15Luca_Si loaded music with rb usb, it could be that some fat corruption sent it in a loop?
12:30:37pamaurypossible, there have been report of database refresh never finishing but you should check the fat before
12:31:50Luca_Sok, hard reset > rockbox stuck at bootloader image, never loads the main menu. something is wrong.. booting OF now
12:31:52Luca_Sok, hard reset > rockbox stuck at bootloader image, never loads the main menu. something is wrong.. booting OF now
12:31:56Luca_Smmm cgi lagging, sorry
12:38:32Luca_Sscandisk found and corrected errors. how can I delete all traces of the database, to try to rebuild it from scratch?
12:40:16pamauryin the .rockbox/ directory, there are a few files like *database*, don't remember the names
12:40:28Luca_Srm *.tcd I suppose
12:40:54Luca_Scan I just delete them?
12:41:40*pamaury takes no responsability if you accidentaly destroy your device :)
12:41:42Luca_Sdoes the db building process require a lot of empty space on the drive? my uSD has about kust 300kb available
12:42:20Luca_Spamaury: i'm not worried, there's always the OF :)
12:42:49pamauryI don't remember exactly, it needs temporary space but don't know the amout, depends on the size of the DB I guess
12:43:58pamauryahahahahahahahaha, a mirable happened today, I finally completely bypasses WinCE on my Mio. Now I just need to figure out the format to get rid of it
12:44:16Luca_Scongrats :D
12:44:49Luca_Srebooted in rockbox, it just said playlist control file invalid, I reset the playlist and it's all fine. now let's rebuild the db
12:45:32Luca_Sit hangs at 317 found :/
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12:46:23Luca_Sis there a way to find on which file it is stuck?
12:46:59pamaurynot sure, check the debug screen but I don't think it prints the current file
12:48:05Luca_Snope, and if hard reset it hangs at the bootloader image again
12:48:14Luca_Slet's restart the of...
12:49:04pamaurytry to run the disk check several times, perhaps there are still errors. Make sure it corrects them
12:49:32Luca_Salready did that, however I have the suspicion that it's the hard reset that's causing them, not vice versa
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12:51:41pamauryyes, but it should not block on db refresh in the first place :)
12:52:08pamaurydo you have dircache enabled ?
12:52:23Luca_Swhat's dircache? whatever the default is :)
12:53:49pamaurydefault is on, we never know but I doubt it is the reason. This is strange
12:54:13Luca_Sas soon as the of ends refreshing its db i'll check
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13:02:49Luca_Schkdsk found errors and recovered a file, something full of text like /<microSD1>/Music/Apocalyptica/Metallica by Four Cellos/Fade to Black.mp3
13:05:27Luca_Sa second pass did not find anything. now testing uSD...
13:07:50AlexPpamaury: Is default on? It hasn't been for years and years
13:08:02AlexPBut I may have missed it being switched :)
13:08:58pamauryah no you're right :)
13:09:30Luca_Sdircache is on
13:09:36Luca_Sshould I try turning it off?
13:10:07pamauryyes you can try
13:13:50Luca_Sok, with dircache off it successfully rebuilt the internal memory database (i had unplugged the usd)
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13:14:09Luca_Snow i plugged in the usd and started a db update
13:14:18Luca_Si'm also in the debug > db screen
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13:14:33Luca_Sand it shows the songs paths as soon as it scans them
13:14:49Luca_Sand... it stopped with curfile: −−- :/
13:15:57pamaurythen maybe it's stuck after the scanning, when committing
13:16:03Luca_Sif I unplug the usd, the process resumes with local files
13:16:16Luca_Sno, it has resumed scanning...
13:16:21AlexPMaybe it needs a bit of tempory space on the µSD
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13:16:36Luca_SAlexP: I left 10Mb
13:17:02AlexPI've no idea how much if any, I don't use the database so have no experience
13:17:58pamauryhow many left space on the flash ? (the sb is not important)
13:18:08Luca_S>2 Gb
13:18:11CIA-70New commit by jethead71 (r29288): Fix move_handle in buffering. Calculating wraps by buffer_len - 1 is incorrect. Switch handle movement to memmove calls exclusively.
13:22:12CIA-70r29288 build result: All green
13:24:48Luca_Syep, it's definitely something with the uSD or the files that are over there. when asking to update the db it hangs and restarts only if i unplug the uSD, after that the process works fine, it even commits after a reboot
13:25:51pamauryLuca_S: can you build a custom rockbox firmware or are you using the prebuilt images ?
13:26:22Luca_SI'm using a custom image (defined USE_ROCKBOX_USB)
13:27:09pamauryok, so can you modify a bit the code to enable logging for the database, this way you'll have more information on what is going on
13:27:27S_a_i_n_tisn't that already in SVN?
13:27:42S_a_i_n_tI'm *damn* sure DB logging was committed.
13:27:44*Luca_S powers up vmware
13:27:54pamauryS_a_i_n_t: on by default ? I doubt it
13:28:02S_a_i_n_tit's in the debug menu.
13:28:20pamaurybut it's not enable
13:28:25pamauryit's not global
13:28:41S_a_i_n_tsystem - debug - metadata log
13:28:43pamauryeach file can enable or not the log output. By default nothing is logged
13:28:57S_a_i_n_tyou simply need enable it, in SVN.
13:29:03S_a_i_n_tit's right there in the debug menu.
13:29:17pamauryyes, you need to enable it
13:29:31S_a_i_n_tbut by "enable", I mean, "select from a menu"
13:29:36S_a_i_n_tno compile necessary
13:29:56pamauryreally ? And what is logged ?
13:30:50S_a_i_n_tit logs each file that's touched during the db update, and if it fails...the last entry is where it failed as I understand it.
13:30:56Luca_Sjust to be sure, let's try S_a_i_n_t's way, it will be a quick test
13:31:29pamaurybut if it just logs the file, it will not be sufficient if it fails after (like on comitting)
13:32:07S_a_i_n_tI'm not quite so sure *what* it logs, only that it was created for this purpose.
13:32:53*pamaury missed that
13:33:32Luca_Swhere should the log reside?
13:33:45CIA-70New commit by jethead71 (r29289): Oops. Put back some changes to go only with others.
13:35:36pamauryapparently in system > debug > metadata log
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13:38:03pamauryLuca_S: my mistake, looking at the code, you first enable it with system > debug > metadata log and then everything is written to /metadata.log
13:38:15pamaury(in a rather inefficient way, so you disable it afterwards)
13:38:29Luca_Spamaury: don't worry, I have something stranger: with the metadata log enabled, it's working!
13:41:15pamaurythere is weird :-/
13:42:03Luca_Sno, ok, it locked after a lot of parsing
13:42:09Luca_Sthe metadata log is there, let's se
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13:44:53Luca_Sok, it logs file names only. not bad. is there some tool I can point the file to and get an integrity report? mp3tag says nothing especial.
13:45:25Luca_Sactually, i will just delete it and let it run again
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13:51:02Luca_Si have an idea... where is the database file?
13:51:07Luca_Sthe source file I mean
13:53:15pamauryif you want more debugging, you can enable much more precise logging
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13:54:04Luca_Show? I think that it fails on files that have the 'Date' tag set to 'yyyy-mm-', without a day (Musicbrainz tagger does that sometimes)
13:54:51pamauryrerun configure, do an advanced build and enable logf. Then in apps/tagcache.c, you add #define LOGF_ENABLE just BEFORE #include "logf.h"
13:55:39pamauryLuca_S: which tags ? (MP3 ?)
13:56:03pamauryactually, the tagcache.c itself doesn't do tag parsing, it's the metadata parsers' job
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13:56:43Luca_SID3v2.4, tag YEAR, value "2005-02"
13:57:48pamauryhuh, 2005-02 is hardly a year :)
13:58:35pamaurythen you can have a look at apps/metadata/{metadata_common.c,id3tags.c}
14:04:56Luca_Sit seems fine to me... id3tags does just an atoi of the input string to get the year, which should work. back to square one...
14:06:12Luca_Slet's do a logf build
14:09:16Luca_Sit's not my day :D configure halted :D
14:09:57Luca_Sit freezes right after "logf support enabled"
14:10:02BuscheljhMikeS: r28289 survived some heavy skipping fwd/rwd, rebuffering and seeking so far −− including album art loading. are there any special use cases I should test? or should I just let it play for some hours?
14:10:35Luca_Slet's Ctrl+C and build anyway
14:11:06Buschel(on iPod Video 30GB, btw)
14:11:08jhMikeSBuschel: I've been playing on my clip for hours with albums alternating track ogg/mp3 without issues. I'd just say try to beat the heck out of it.
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14:18:15Buschellocked up :/
14:18:17jhMikeSThere's still only one spot I found where the overflow could happen
14:18:38sideralLuca_S: you could quickly test your earlier theory (year-month-nothing breakage) by removing the file in question, retry the DB build, and in a second step putting it back (or throwing a bootload of test files with this signature on your player)
14:18:45jhMikeSBuschel: what sort of lockup? hard?
14:19:20Buschelquite hard, it even does not swith off the backlight. no reaction, will reset now
14:20:00BuschelI played an atrac3 (high cpu load) and selected a AAC-HE file for playack via file browser.
14:20:07jhMikeSpure SVN or the patch I have?
14:20:11Buschelit shows "loading..." −− since minutes
14:20:25Buschelsvn @r28289
14:21:22*S_a_i_n_t seems to have some complicated balance of svn and various patch magic going on in his buffering code.
14:21:41jhMikeShmm...there's still not the other fixes
14:22:06BuscheljhMikeS: of course this is not reproducible...
14:23:53pamauryomg, it works !!!!!
14:23:53jhMikeSis dircache enabled (recall that randomness I and others had)?
14:24:08pamauryI can run custom code on my mio with a custom wince image \o/
14:24:46BuscheljhMikeS: yes, dircache is activated
14:25:15Luca_Ssideral: I just ruled out my theory - it crashed on a file without date tags...
14:25:33Luca_Spamaury: congratulations! but which device?
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14:26:02pamaurymio c510e, it's a GPS device :)
14:26:31*S_a_i_n_t demands the rockbox port for it yesterday!
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14:27:23Luca_Ssure it's a strange device to port rockbox on :D
14:28:01pamaurywell, apart from the fact that is has a GPS receiver, it's a perfect rockbox device: touchscreen, HP, audio out, mic, bluetooth, usb
14:28:25pamauryexcept that it runs windows ce :-[
14:28:44pamauryand it's using a s3c2440 for which rockbox has a port
14:28:51Buschelwtf. I was playing mp3 files from a folder and skipped fwd/rwd haevily. somehow it now entered a sub-folder and plays file from it. I did not enter the file browser to move to this folder...
14:29:25Luca_Swith GPS and bluetooth, I demand Facebook integration in rockbox! -> /me is listening to Whatever
14:29:38Luca_Scongratulations - going to have lunch now, see you
14:30:01jhMikeSBuschel: I doubt it could get that info except from the playlist
14:30:33pamaurywho told me a device also had a wince kernel and could benefit from my hacking on the format ?
14:30:37BuscheljhMikeS: I don't think this is caused by your changes. just another underlying issue rockbox has...
14:31:36jhMikeSBuschel: folders don't always play in the expected order I've noticed...going in reverse vs. forward :)
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14:33:32Buschelin the forums there is the next guy reporting iPod Video does not play any files using 3.7.1
14:34:58jhMikeShmmm...clearly not the case for everyone
14:35:07LloreanBuschel: Sometimes people think they're using the release, when they're really talking about the current build. There's this whole "3.7.1 means ever version after that came out right?" thought process.
14:35:13LloreanIt might be best to double check somehow
14:37:11BuschelLlorean: good point, just asked him how current build behaves. maybe I'll just ask for the revision in the info screen to be sure
14:38:04jhMikeSwhich topic is that?
14:40:49jhMikeSbad COP? :)
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14:43:02jhMikeSout of sync .lang files can do that too (just a thought)
14:43:42S_a_i_n_tBuschel: You may want to check what "rebooted" means also.
14:44:01S_a_i_n_the's probably riddled with disk corruption from menu+select resets
14:44:16jhMikeSwon't a restore fix that?
14:45:57jhMikeSgreylib is just so wrong on OLED :\
14:46:23jhMikeSfire looks more like "millions of fleas jumping"
14:47:04S_a_i_n_tby tge sounds of his last post, he could easily have a corrupted disk.
14:48:07S_a_i_n_trebooting while the db is trying to init, where I almost guarantee that "rebooting" is a hard reset.
14:48:20Buscheljust asked if it is possible for him to join us here
14:55:43jhMikeSBuschel: I can haz commit patch? I'm not convinced one can rule out buffer without it (or blame it for anything new that show itself).
14:58:42BuscheljhMikeS: you're talking of submitting the large patch in FS #11863?
14:59:53jhMikeSI'd rather any real testing be done with it
14:59:56BuschelI'd say -> submit. The playback/buffering is buggy as it is. If the patch gives the chance to fix some bugs it should go in. If there sould occure too many side effects we could just remove it from the 3.8 release..
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15:00:43BuschelI will put it on my iPod immediately and let it run for a while :)
15:00:46jhMikeSrighto, I can stop watching/syncing that mess in my tree now, excellent ;)
15:01:01jhMikeSI've been using that change all week
15:01:10*S_a_i_n_t too
15:02:28Buschelany ideas how to proceed with all those multiple bug reports? I would like to reduce it to a few reports kept open (e.g. FS #11863) and close the others...
15:03:08jhMikeSwhich in particular?
15:04:11Buschelfor example: 11390, 11764, 11846. maybe 11775
15:04:42Buschelmaybe also 11746
15:05:05jhMikeS11390, wtf?
15:05:11Buschelthey are stated as "related tasks" in FS #11863
15:06:32jhMikeSwas 11390 pre-EABI? I had the same issue but it just vanished and never returned.
15:06:50jhMikeSI think there was a conflict after some skin change with the DMA blob
15:08:50jhMikeSLlorean: Is FS #11390 still valid?
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16:05:13LloreanjhMikeS: That one was fixed some time ago, I think. But I've mainly been using a different player, so I don't know what build is on my beast, or even where it is at the moment, sorry.
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18:03:45*TheSeven experienced some really weird skipping behavior today and wonders if that's a bug or one of sideral's new features
18:04:21sideralvery unlikely, unless you've enabled autoresume
18:04:35sideralI'd suspect the recent buffering changes...
18:05:22TheSevenwell it behaved a bit as if it wanted to prevent me from losing a resume position, but i haven't enabled any of those features, at least not intentionally, and it seemed to behave inconsistent
18:06:08TheSevenin the middle of a track, i skipped forward to the next one, decided that i didn't like that one as well, and skipped some more tracks forward
18:06:36TheSeventhings didn't get better, so i decided to go backwards instead, back to the beginning of the track i had been listening before starting to skip around
18:07:10TheSevenwhile skipping back, it always jumped into the middle of songs, which confused me, as i couldn't get back to their beginning
18:07:25TheSevenafter that, when skipping forward again, I also ended up in the middle of songs
18:07:43TheSevenis there any feature that would cause such behavior?
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18:09:14TheSevenwhat I have enabled is this "pause/resume on headphone plug/unplug" thing
18:10:27[Saint]TheSeven: Buschel reported heavy seeking in SVN head ended him up in a subdir earlier
18:10:39[Saint]also unreproducible
18:11:05[Saint]and I mean, how the *f**ck* does that happen?
18:11:22TheSevenwell, there seem to be two cans of race conditions in rockbox
18:11:32TheSevenone is skipping vs. buffering vs. whatever
18:11:39TheSeventhe other one is plugging/unplugging USB
18:12:34[Saint]jhMikeS mention submitting the FS #11863 though I'm not sure he has yet.
18:12:53[Saint]he's looked at buffering quite extensively iiuc
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19:44:13*TheSeven is surprised how fast his ipod classic's disk is after tweaking a few things
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19:45:24TheSevenhow does our kernel deal with wakeup_signal() being called by IRQs while sleeping?
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19:45:59TheSevendoes it fall asleep again when the IRQ handler terminates, or does it look for threads wanting to be executed?
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22:28:28CIA-70New commit by dave (r29290): Use target names instead of model numbers in #if statements - nowhere else uses MODEL_NUMBER.
22:32:32CIA-70r29290 build result: All green
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22:43:17wodzwhat is the difference in arm asm between mov r0, #0x30000000 and ldr r0,=0x30000000 ?
22:46:05badcamCan anyone confirm if the "nobar" option in Bar Tags actually works? Example: %pb(0,0,-,-,-,slider,T,nobar)
22:46:13benedikt93wodz: the latter is IIRC only some pseudo-instruction which the assembler will resolve to something like the first one or some ldr r0, [PC,#whatever] depending on the value
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22:51:12wodzSo what's the purpose of ldr variant? Are there some constraints of immediate argument to mov?
22:52:05Buschelwodz: afaik there are restrictions to the first variant.
22:53:31benedikt93it can only be a 8bit value shifted to any even bit position in a 32bit word
22:53:49Buschelyes, something like this
22:54:17pamaurywodz: simple enough, each arm instruction is 32-bit width, so you can't load any constant :)
22:55:16wodzok, so in general one should just write ldr r0,=0xabcdef00 and let the asembler do the job right?
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22:59:19badcamStrike my request. I've found that the Simulator still shows the bar but after transferring the cope to the MP3 player, I see it's working fine in there.
22:59:33badcamcope s/b code
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23:01:26pamauryWho knows SD programming ? Who is the rockbox sd expert :D ?
23:02:16wodzpamaury: bertrik I guess
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