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#rockbox log for 2011-02-15

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04:05:46cobyhey does anybody know if coby mp3 players are working with rockbox?...any of them (sorry cant find anywhere to post this lol) ...or philips gogear sa3025/37
04:06:16LloreanThe players supported are listed on the front page of the site.
04:06:37cobyoh well i guess not
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04:07:04cobyok thanks
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09:12:59sugerfunkhas anyone experimented with using setting_inc and/or setting_dec in their WPS markup? I notcied some unexpected (maybe?) behavior
09:14:24sugerfunkit seems that if you alter a sound-related (e.g. EQ) setting it doesn't reflect in the sound output
09:14:36[Saint]I assume you're using it in a touchscreen .wps?
09:14:36sugerfunkeven though it indicates in the menus that the setting has been changed
09:14:42sugerfunkoh yes, sorry
09:15:23[Saint]It doesn't change it realtime, sometimes there is a delay of a few seconds, but...it definitely should apply.
09:15:44sugerfunkwell the setting change applies, but it doesn't change the sound output
09:15:57sugerfunkso when i go back to the setting menu, it HAS changed
09:15:57[Saint]what target is this?
09:16:20sugerfunkit could just be because I am using an alpha target −− an Android phone
09:17:10sugerfunkbut I tried to trace into the code and it seems that after a sound change via the menu, a function called eq_apply() is called
09:17:34sugerfunkand i'm wondering if it doesn't get called via a touchscreen setting_inc
09:17:43[Saint]Hmmm....I'll test it on my phone when I can later on, I can't right now...but it's worth looking into.
09:17:58[Saint]you're welcome to lodge a bug on the tracker for this.
09:18:03sugerfunkby the way, the setting i'm talking about is "eq enable"
09:18:53[Saint]hmmmm, ok...I thought you were using setting_inc/dec on individual eq bands.
09:19:05sugerfunkno just trying to toggle it on and off
09:19:22sugerfunkalthough i suspect the problem would occur with the other ones as well
09:19:24[Saint]I'm not sure if it works this way for eq_enable, perhaps...but I can't say for certain.
09:19:26sugerfunki can try to test it out
09:20:39sugerfunki wanted to add it so i can toggle the EQ on/off depending on whether i'm listening through headphones or in a host sound system with EQ already built in
09:22:14sugerfunkit also doesn't seem to write the setting change to disk, so if i shutdown Rockbox and restart it, the setting change reverts
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09:24:43sugerfunki wasn't sure if it made sense to file it as a bug, but i guess it would qualify as unexpected behavior so it probably makes sense to add it to the bug list
09:25:30[Saint]sure.
09:25:35[Saint]http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/index.php?show_task=
09:26:44[Saint]Just be sure to outline the issue in as much detail as you think is necessary to describe it adequately, and a recipe to reproduce the issue if possible is also good.
09:27:06[Saint](ie. an example of your .wps syntax)
09:38:19sugerfunkthanks [Saint] −− I added it to Flyspray
09:38:35[Saint]No problem.
09:39:44sugerfunki might even try to take a wack at it myself −− i haven't coded in C in a while, but i was able to follow the code reasonably well
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10:22:13linuxstbAnyone know how portrait/landscape mode works on Android? i.e. can I use lcd_width/height either way around and Rockbox will choose the appropriate mode, or do I need to, for example. pick the portrait resolution?
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10:25:53JdGordon|linuxstb: IIRC you need to set a flag in the java code to go landscape
10:26:33JdGordon|you prob also need to handle a change in the lcd driver so it doesnt have the screen rotated 90 deg
10:32:21dionoeayou need to change the AndroidManifest.xml file (and as JdGordon| suggested the lcd driver would probably need changes too)
10:33:18linuxstbJdGordon|: OK, so the default is portrait? Or is that target-specific?
10:33:54dionoeaAndroidManifest explicitly sets it to portrait
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10:44:03JdGordon|RaaA builds really should be lcd size agnostic
10:44:17JdGordon|there is a working proof-of-concept patch
10:45:01JdGordon|IIRC the only argument against it is plugins, which imo is nonesense because games are never going to be worked on for RaaA and 90% of other plugins dont care about the lcd size
10:45:15Zagorthat patch doesn't fix the themes, does it?
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10:46:14JdGordon|it "handles" them
10:46:34Zagorhow?
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10:46:53JdGordon|i.e config.cfg loads "sbs: cabbie.sbs", the theme loader tries to load cabbie.sbs, if that isnt found it then loads cabbie.WxH.sbs
10:46:59JdGordon|ditto background images
10:47:21Zagoraha. that's not too bad.
10:48:04Zagorof course, it still means we have to include a half-dozen themes
10:48:23JdGordon|the other "problem" was it makes the apk huge (including all the extra bmp's and fonts) but then IMO they shouldnt be in the apk to begin with
10:48:49JdGordon|there is no reason we cant download the desired cabbie on first load
10:50:40Zagorfair enough.
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10:58:18linuxstbIs there a reason the android Java code is built during "make apk", rather than as part of the normal build? (IIUC)
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11:02:18Zagoras far as I can tell, it isn't
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14:01:44prg318Is there a feature comparison between rockbox fb and iPod firmware around somewhere? i'd like to see if there any feature-benefits that are relevant to me other than FLAC playback
14:02:03prg318nvm i'm an idiot
14:02:46linuxstbZagor: (During your big build system rework) did you look at replacing that big #if #elif #elif ... monster in config.h with #include "config/$(MODELNAME).h" ?
14:04:03Zagoriirc #include lines do not parse macros
14:04:49linuxstbWhat a pain...
14:05:14*linuxstb is sure there must be a way to do it though...
14:05:53Zagormaybe. I haven't looked at it.
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14:06:30B4gderit does parse defines
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14:06:50B4gder#include MOO and gcc '-DMOO="include-this.h"' test.c
14:07:08ZagorB4gder: excellent
14:07:23B4gderthe define just has to have the double quotes in the definition
14:07:37B4gderor < brackets
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14:23:04sideralZagor: I'd like to close the autoresume FS task ASAP, as the feature is now complete. Is there a date by which the RBS will have made a decision?
14:23:50Zagorthere is nonot a fixed one, but
14:24:11Zagorit will not take long, I think
14:24:42Zagorwe have to decide before the release, at the very latest
14:25:02sideralOK, thanks
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17:27:26NikolasZHi ppl.
17:28:00NikolasZI got ipod nano 4g thats g4 IS there anything i can do? im not programer :(
17:28:41[Saint]Not really, no.
17:30:01[Saint]While there is some work ongoing for the Nano4G, there's nothing available that's of any use tothe casual user.
17:30:04NikolasZI will check next week if you need helps with nano 4g.
17:30:32NikolasZOk,np.
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17:31:01NikolasZas i hear there is nano 6g out?
17:31:25[Saint]correct. and no, that's not supported either ;)
17:33:30NikolasZI got diferent question, BOX is community that got lots of diferent box sites? like GSMbox ?
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17:34:17[Saint]If you are asking if Rockbox is related to that project, or any other with a similar name, the answer is no.
17:34:36NikolasZok
17:34:42[Saint]It's just a coincidence.
17:34:46TorneNikolasZ: better to check back in 3-6 months about the nano 4g
17:34:54Torneone week is not gonna make any difference :)
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17:39:01NikolasZOk guys. Cya soon
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19:09:23n1srasher: would it be possible for your translation statistics page to exclude deprecated strings from the calculation of how many percent complete a translation is?
19:09:33n1s(see fs#11942)
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19:10:09rasherMaybe!
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19:13:00LambdaCalculus37Would anyone have any qualms about closing FS #7331 (GBS codec)? There's a new GBS codec in the tracker at FS #11906 which looks to be much more up to date.
19:14:56BuschelNo. I would say close it as a double entry and add 11906 as related task.
19:15:45rashern1s: I think this is an edge-case. Normally the strings would already be in the file, and genlang would simply automaticly deprecate it (and not produce a comment)
19:16:09LambdaCalculus37Buschel: So close with "duplicate" and comment with "See FS #11906 for an updated version"?
19:17:04Buschelyes, and just add 11906 as "related task" to 7331. this way you'll even find this link from the 11906 entry.
19:19:06LambdaCalculus37Done.
19:19:30rashern1s: It'd complicate the stats generating significantly. Right now I just count how many ### This phrase was not present is in the output, which is nice and simple :\
19:19:44Buschelhmm, the "related task" thing did not work. will do it now
19:20:00Buscheldone
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19:25:09BuschelLambdaCalculus37: no problem :) you're also cleaning up flyspray? ;)
19:25:10LambdaCalculus37Buschel: I'm just poking around to look for any interesting patches. :)
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19:26:08rashern1s: I think I'm leaning towards "not worth it". It's unlikely to happen very often (a string being added and deprecated again before any other string is added/changed)
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19:28:44LambdaCalculus37Buschel: But I do agree that Flyspray needs a very big cleaning up. There are a whole bunch of old patches that I doubt very much would build now, and some that look like they're outdated versions of code that's already in Rockbox.
19:28:49n1srasher: ah, ok
19:30:27rashern1s: Sorry for being lazy about it, but..
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19:35:09n1srasher: no problem, i didn't realize this was a special case (quick deprecation after adding the string)
19:35:54n1sand it sounds like the fix should go in genlang anyway
19:36:39rasherWell, that would actually confuse my stats counting :)
19:36:58n1sheh
19:37:04rasher(because it assumes the number of <phrase> lines should be equal in english.lang and translations)
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19:38:18*n1s closes that task
19:38:33rasherDoing it the Right Way would involve parsing the languages and completely ignoring deprecated strings, I guess.
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19:38:55rasherCode already exists for parsing, of course, so it might not be *that* much work
19:38:59n1ssomething like it
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19:39:21rasherBut enough that I'm currently inclined to not bother, I'm afraid
19:41:05n1si wonder if fs#10869 should be closed too, not related though
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20:00:40linuxstbn1s: Did you mean to write FS #10869?
20:01:01n1syes
20:01:05n1si think
20:01:10linuxstbThat was closed 13 months ago
20:01:28n1s?
20:01:44pixelmalinuxstb: not here
20:01:58n1snot closed here either
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20:05:20n1sit's probably also irrelevant now, rockbox usb has been enabled since that report
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20:34:55thomasjfoxBuschel: Yes
20:35:29Buschelthen I will most likely submit one in a few minutes :)
20:35:37gevaertsBuschel: sure. Otherwise the freeze would be rather more useless than some people are already claiming :)
20:37:22Buschelin fact this process is quite similar to what is done in the company I am working for :)
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20:38:57n1sit's quite common for other open source projects too IIUC
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20:46:07linuxstbthomasjfox: Why does that commit exclude Android?
20:46:19thomasjfoxlinuxstb: It doesn't use the SDL event queue
20:46:46thomasjfoxI have to ask kugel how the app shutdown is done on android
20:47:03kugelnot at all
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20:48:11thomasjfoxkugel: hey. Is there a kind of "user wants to quit" event on android?
20:48:54kugelyes and no
20:49:20kugelthe user can close activities, but not the entire app
20:49:50thomasjfoxso the app stays active all the time?
20:50:05kugelwell, they can close the app (if the app offers this or through the application manager)
20:50:28kugelbut the application manager isn't something you should use regularly, and not to force close apps anyway
20:50:45thomasjfoxso how does one exit rockbox right now?
20:50:45kugelthe standard way is closing the activity (that is, the user interface) and leave the rest to the system
20:51:00gevaertsthomasjfox: "exit" is not an android concept :)
20:51:09gevaertsIt's java, apps get garbage collected!
20:51:14thomasjfoxgevaerts: Luckily I read the basic about it yesterday :)
20:52:16thomasjfoxkugel: onDestory() in RockboxActivity might be the place?
20:52:19kugelno
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20:52:29kugelI have no desire currently to add an exit option to android
20:54:34kugelthe activity isn't the right place, it's getting destryoed if you hit the back button, even if music is playing
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20:54:35thomasjfoxah ok. It just would be nice to get the last.FM scrobbler file or play counts running on Android, too
20:54:36thomasjfoxwhich reminds me of the last.FM scrobbler file location
20:54:36thomasjfoxCurrently its "/.scrobbler-something.log" - in the root partition :o)
20:54:36DBUGEnqueued KICK thomasjfox
20:54:36thomasjfoxWe need a better location for that in RaaA
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20:55:11thomasjfoxWhat about $HOME/.scrobbler.log?
20:55:23kugelfine with me
20:55:37thomasjfoxWith regard to "-timeless.log" of course
20:55:50thomasjfoxRTC emulation is something that needs fixing, too ;)
20:56:19kugelI don't scrobble (or whatever the terms there are) so I have no idea about this
20:56:26thomasjfoxMe neither
20:56:39kugelI don't think we need RTC emulation, we can just call the library function directly
20:56:56kugelrockbox is posixy in this regard IIRC
20:57:21thomasjfoxI'll have to try what happens if I just define CONFIG_RTC
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20:58:06thomasjfoxThe scrobbler log file also records the daytime of a playback
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21:00:39Buschelnooooo.....
21:00:41Buschel:/
21:00:50Buschelf*ck
21:01:43Buschelthat were just all my local patches...
21:02:15gevaertsTime for a revert?
21:02:23Buschelyep, working on it
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21:14:00thomasjfoxkugel: Is $HOME/.scrobbler.log fine on android, too?
21:14:24kugelno :)
21:14:49kugelROCKBOX_DIR/.scrobbler.log is
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21:15:16thomasjfoxHmm. If we stick to that, we should make it the same on all RaaA platforms
21:15:54thomasjfoxThough I remember someone said the scrobbler.log is not a config file the first time I brought it up
21:16:08thomasjfoxSo it shouldn't go into ROCKBOX_DIR...
21:16:35kugelthat's the problem with implicitely created files
21:19:08thomasjfoxHmm. We could put it in ROCKBOX_DIR and make this a setting later on
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21:22:21kugelnot sure why it should be in $HOME. the file is hidden, probably for a reason
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21:26:43thomasjfoxkugel: Ok, let's stick it in ROCKBOX_DIR for now until someone comes up with something better
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21:27:57kugelthomasjfox: is the location the only problem of writing scrobbler.log or is there more?
21:28:18thomasjfoxkugel: The location + the fixed shutdown sequence
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21:28:38thomasjfoxkugel: Besides that it seems to work
21:28:50kugelnice
21:29:13thomasjfoxCONFIG_RTC in RaaA is also an issue I'm hunting down right now
21:29:20kugelI dont think anyone reported scrobbler.log failure for android so the maemo port is already useful :P
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21:31:13Buschelwhat is most likely: AAC is VBR or AAC is CBR? right now we just set mp3entry to CBR for all AAC files. imho it is more likely that AAC files are VBR...
21:32:48BuschelALAC should natively be VBR
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21:35:43thomasjfoxkugel: Found something: http://www.audioscrobbler.net/wiki/Portable_Player_Logging
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21:36:01thomasjfoxkugel: The .scrobbler.log file should be in the location of the USB mass storage area
21:36:23kugelthen it's all messed up
21:36:33thomasjfoxI know the location for maemo ;)
21:36:46kugel /sdcard on android
21:36:52thomasjfoxExactly
21:37:22thomasjfoxSo let's put it in a known location if possible or into ROCKBOX_DIR as fallback on RaaA
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21:37:50kugelgood idea
21:39:15saratogaBuschel: CBR AAC files are very rare, although technically possible
21:39:47Buschelsaratoga: so, we should set id3->vbr to true for ALAC/AAC.
21:39:54saratogayes i think so
21:40:06Buschelis this seen as fix? ;)
21:40:24kugelno way to detect this?
21:40:30saratogaalthough its probably not very useful for AAC, since a lot of what people think of as CBR are really just VBR with a fixed average bitrate
21:40:34saratogaso ABR or something similar
21:40:51saratogaso the technically correct answer will often not agree with the users expectation
21:41:19n1sBuschel: what is the effect of changing that flag?
21:41:40Buschelthe best would be to remove the VBR flag from mp3entry. as we cannot really tell reliably for all formats
21:42:00Buscheln1s: some WPS use it to diplay "VBR" or "CBR"
21:42:05Buschelthat's all
21:42:32n1sah
21:43:05Buscheland mpegplayer/mpa use it for seek
21:43:22Buschelbut that's specific to those XING headers
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21:47:58Buschelso, anybody contradicting setting ALAC/AAC to vbr=true ?
21:49:45amiconnAll lossless compression formats are inherently vbr. So alac reporting cbr is an outright bug
21:49:59Buschelyes
21:50:03amiconnIf aac can be either, it should report what it actually us
21:50:07amiconns/us/is/
21:50:23Buschelwe cannot detect as far as I can tell
21:51:45n1swhy is that interesting in a wps?
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21:52:33Buschelask the authors and users. to me it is not interesting. but as long as it is available we should provide the best possible answer
21:54:30*amiconn likes to have that information available
21:54:56Buschelwe could save some binsize when we just delete the vbr flag from our wps parsing code and the metadata parsers (as long as only needed for WPS)... but this would break existing WPS
21:55:08Buschelnot much savings though...
21:56:00pixelmathere are way more complex WPS features I'm pretty sure... and I also use this info in my WPS
21:56:32Buschelso, I'll just change both ALAC and AAC to vbr=true. that seems to be the easiest of all options ;)
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22:17:08thomasjfoxcrap :)
22:18:02n1sah, so the poster of FS #10869 sent me a mail now that i closed it and want's it reopened, shouldn't there be a button for people to request re-opens?
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23:01:02JdGordon1thomasjfox: ehy, why isnt the scrobllber filee just using ROCKBOX_DIR so it gets handled magically?
23:01:24thomasjfoxJdGordon1: See http://www.audioscrobbler.net/wiki/Portable_Player_Logging
23:01:45thomasjfoxJdGordon1: It should be located in the USB mass storage area for the existing tools to pick it up
23:02:25thomasjfoxJdGordon1: Or at least pick it up automatically :)
23:02:47JdGordon1ok
23:03:03thomasjfoxThat also explains why native rockbox stores it in "/"
23:03:40thomasjfoxbtw: How does the "recent bookmarks" feature work normally?
23:04:06thomasjfoxI just created a bookmark in a song and it doesn't show up under that root menu item on the next rockbox run
23:05:22JdGordon1you have to enable the recent bookmarks listing
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23:05:51thomasjfoxI though I had. Does the root menu item show up if it's disabled?
23:06:36JdGordon1it shouldnt
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23:07:42thomasjfoxI guess the feature is broken on RaaA ;)
23:08:12JdGordon1unlikely
23:08:19JdGordon1but blame sideral if it is! :D
23:10:39thomasjfoxHmm. Where does the list of recent bookmarks get stored? Tagcache?
23:11:00thomasjfoxah crap
23:11:04thomasjfoxIt's another file in "/" :o)
23:11:04sideral:)
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23:18:50thomasjfoxups, that path is prefixed by ROCKBOX_DIR already
23:19:14thomasjfoxThough I guess "most-recent.bmark.tmp" is not the correct filename on the disc...
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23:31:06thomasjfoxkugel: Any reason app_rename() doesn't do ROCKBOX_DIR lookup for the target path?
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23:31:33kugelthomasjfox: didn't you just fix that stuff in there?
23:31:48thomasjfoxkugel: I didn't touch that part (yet) :)
23:32:20thomasjfoxkugel: The ROCKBOX_DIR lookup functions don't get called at all for the rename target path
23:32:27thomasjfoxkugel: So I'll just fix it then
23:32:36kugelI thought r29148
23:33:07kugelthat commit message even mentions app_rename()
23:33:32thomasjfoxThat was a different problem / I missed the other problem in app_rename()
23:33:52thomasjfoxRecent bookmarks should be working soon...
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23:55:06thomasjfoxkugel: What about having built-in ignore entries for /proc and /sys for the database on RaaA?
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23:55:52Torne(or a filesystem blacklist?)
23:56:39thomasjfoxYes, that might work too
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23:58:09Tornethough that involves statvfs and so on ;)
23:58:12thomasjfoxTorne: Though filesystem type lookup is more tied to the OS than a blacklist based on filename/dirname
23:58:18kugelthomasjfox: we could possible re-use the autoresume configuration for multiple search roots
23:58:31kugel(defaulting to /sdcard or $HOME or whatever)

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