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#rockbox log for 2011-03-03

00:01:06		Join mc2739 [0] (~mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739)
00:01:46	thomasjfox	kugel: Almost got it. Need to adjust, the configuration_save()/load() code, too.
00:03:26		Quit bertrik (Quit: :tiuQ)
00:05:07		Quit L-Strife89 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
00:05:11	sideral	jhMikeS: The sim has a different issue: It randomly pauses playback of my MP4 file. Hrmpf.
00:05:45	jhMikeS	?? logf that!
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00:06:13	jhMikeS	sideral: the playback engine shows itself paused ?
00:06:31	thomasjfox	sideral: If you compile the sim using "−−sdl-threads", you can run it inside valgrind and check for uninitialized memory access or buffer overflows
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00:08:24	sideral	Yes, the WPS says it's paused, and I can unpause. This is with an old release though. I don't have time to dig into this too deeply now, but I'll retry with a current release when I'm finished (or have given up) finding a good release for my ClipV2 and bisecting
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00:09:09	[Saint]	wtf?!?
00:09:19	[Saint]	there's no "create widget" anymore :/
00:09:49	[Saint]	either it's not there...or the huge RB logo combined with the addition of the cover art category bumped it off the bottom.
00:10:21	[Saint]	(I dislike the massive RB logo personally...too much for 240x320)
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00:11:36	JdGordon	we really need a way to reboot RaaA on android :/
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00:11:42	JdGordon	how am i supposed to enable the databse?
00:11:49	[Saint]	yeah...it's pushed off the bottom of the screen...I can select it with the dpad (but not see it) and create the widget like that, but it's the only way to do it.
00:12:03	[Saint]	JdGordon: shutdown the service.
00:12:07	[Saint]	that's what I did.
00:13:04	JdGordon	PF sucks on my phone
00:13:09	JdGordon	and apparently doesnt find any images
00:14:43	[Saint]	Hmmm, if you start playback with the widget, if you launch the app with the widget the UI viewport doesn't change but the other %mp conditional tags do.
00:15:09	[Saint]	the UI viewport switches ok if the app is entered normally.
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00:16:10	[Saint]	JdGordon: Is it embedded? I don't think pictureflow does embedded AA.
00:17:06	JdGordon	nope
00:17:45	[Saint]	Hmmm...actually, perhaps the UI viewport doesn't behave correctly and switch on %mp, but it "just works" because I can't alter playback from the .sbs and leaving the .wps causes a fullscreen redraw.
00:18:23	[Saint]	Yes, I believe that's it actually...pissing around with the widget stopping playback and entering/laving the app suggests as much.
00:18:56	[Saint]	*leaving
00:19:10	sideral	jhMikeS: I'm now testing with r28308, a pre-3.7 rev, and I still cannot play back these two MP4 files on the device. Sometime I can see a "codec error" splash for a few milliseconds
00:19:39	[Saint]	JdGordon: Does that sound likely? As that is what is appearing to happen.
00:19:47	JdGordon	I dont understand :p
00:19:58	JdGordon	and dont blame me if the widget doesnt work :) not my beast
00:20:14	sideral	jhMikeS: So it looks like nothing between 3.7 and 3.8 broke it for these particular files :)
00:20:17	kugel	thomasjfox: why plugins.data?
00:20:23	thomasjfox	kugel: Better idea?
00:20:27	[Saint]	The UI viewport doesn't seem to change (it's conditional to %mp) unless I leave the menu and come back to it again.
00:20:38	kugel	rocks.data, or just rocks?
00:21:03	thomasjfox	kugel: If we just call it just "rocks" or "plugins", then the path on android would be easy "/sdcard/rockbox/rocks"
00:21:11	thomasjfox	One can't guess it's a data directory
00:21:16	JdGordon	[Saint]: well yeah, thats how is always worked...
00:21:17	thomasjfox	kugel: rocks.data is fine with me
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00:21:31	JdGordon	it only takes effect when the list is (re)inited
00:21:46	[Saint]	JdGordon: well, the fail case is things that can affect playback without the current screen changing.
00:21:55	[Saint]	as it doesn't draw the UI viewport correctly.
00:22:33	[Saint]	In this case I discovered it with the widget, but enabling playback control from the .sbs will uncover it also.
00:23:19	JdGordon	yeah
00:23:40	[Saint]	it worked, as the conditions I has previously guaranteed that the screen was changing, the widget makes this not true.
00:23:55	[Saint]	so would enabling playback control in the .sbs.
00:24:09	[Saint]	but I'm not smart enough to figure out how to make it work ;)
00:24:36	thomasjfox	kugel: final version: http://pastie.org/1626609
00:24:42	[Saint]	(forcing a fullscreen redraw when the UI viewport changes?)
00:24:56	kugel	[Saint]: plugins can also change playback state without changing the screen
00:25:29	[Saint]	kugel: any that use a UI viewport?
00:25:45	[Saint]	if so, they should display this also.
00:26:18	[Saint]	(well, not necessarily, but they could if the .sbs had a conditional UI viewport set)
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00:26:38	thomasjfox	kugel: Corrected one more typo in the solitare rock
00:26:55	thomasjfox	kugel: Anyhow, pictureflow is now saving/caching correctly :)
00:27:05	*	kugel wonders if thomasjfox heard of strcat :)
00:27:23	thomasjfox	kugel: Which place needs a strcat? ;)
00:27:33	JdGordon	[Saint]: I thought I had it so it would tr to reinit the list if the ui vp changed?
00:28:09	kugel	thomasjfox: path creation for sdl apps
00:28:30	thomasjfox	kugel: Good idea!
00:28:35	thomasjfox	kugel: I'll add it
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00:29:20	thomasjfox	kugel: Maybe not that good: We get HOME from outside
00:29:21	kugel	Google found a simple mkdirs() implementation
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00:29:46	thomasjfox	kugel: strncat might be better
00:30:06	kugel	strlcat even
00:30:17	JdGordon	[Saint]: apps/gui/statusbar-skinned.c there is a fucntion sb_set_info_vp(), copy the to two lines staring with viewportmanager_theme from sb_skin_get_info_vp() into it after the line thats there now, that might fix it
00:30:30	kugel	it was more about the cat part anyway ;)
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00:32:20	kugel	JdGordon: I think you took that out?
00:32:22	sideral	thomasjfox: I haven't used valgrind much in the past. Are there instructions on how to use it with rockbox somewhere?
00:32:59	[Saint]	JdGordon: Yeah...it's definitely not drawing the UI viewport correctly if I launch the app with it's shortcut, start & stop playback (to make sure the "stopped" condition is true), exit the app, start playback with the widget, then launch the app with the widget.
00:32:59	thomasjfox	sideral: Just compile a normal sim build. Then do "valgrind ./rockboxui" and follow the on-screen messages
00:33:08	[Saint]	JdGordon: I can'
00:33:22	thomasjfox	sideral: It's important to configure rockbox with "−−sdl-threads", otherwise valgrind won't work
00:33:25	kugel	viewportmanager_theme_changed() has no case for ui viewport anymore
00:33:27	[Saint]	t try your suggested fix either sorry, as I have no way to compile an .apk
00:33:57	JdGordon	bah :p
00:34:13	JdGordon	I'll hook you up with a pak?
00:34:16	JdGordon	apk?
00:34:39	[Saint]	kugel: do you know if the widget scales AA? Or what the minimum AA size it will display is?
00:34:39	thomasjfox	kugel: I'll leave the snprintf in there for now as it's a separate thing
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00:34:52	kugel	thomasjfox: okay
00:34:53	thomasjfox	kugel: my box doesn't have strlcat
00:34:54	[Saint]	It doesn't seem to display any AA for me unless I'm doing something wrong.
00:35:10	kugel	[Saint]: the widget scales, but with worse quality than rockbox
00:35:32	kugel	it can't do embedded aa yet if you're using it
00:35:53	JdGordon	is aa supposed to work in svn in the widget?
00:35:58	JdGordon	[Saint]: what screen size?
00:36:03	[Saint]	no, I have all my AA as Folder.jpg
00:36:25	[Saint]	240x320 <−−- JdGordon
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00:37:31	JdGordon	you'll have to uninstall first because of changed key :/
00:37:35	JdGordon	building
00:38:03	[Saint]	you don't have AA fonts in your tree by chance do you?
00:38:10	JdGordon	plain svn
00:38:10	[Saint]	and the list height patch? :P
00:38:15	[Saint]	Ah, np ;)
00:38:51	JdGordon	can we setup a wiki page to keep track of everyones git repos?
00:38:52	[Saint]	Hmmmm....I just can't get a widget to display AA, I have no idea what I'm doing wrong here.
00:38:58	JdGordon	or at least interesting links?
00:39:10	kugel	JdGordon: or get write acess to the mirror and have all our repos there!
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00:39:50	JdGordon	it wont be seperate repos there though will it? wont it be branches?
00:40:22	kugel	separate repos are also possible
00:43:44	JdGordon	[Saint]: jdgordon.info/rockbox/rockbox.apk">http://jdgordon.info/rockbox/rockbox.apk
00:43:58	CIA-70	New commit by thomasjfox (r29506): RaaA: Fix write locations of plugins
00:44:16	sideral	thomasjfox: Thanks! Valgrind finds a few uses of uninitialized values in libasound, but not in Rockbox or the mp4 codec
00:44:36	[Saint]	JdGordon: Thanks, I'll give you a hoot yay or nay in a bit.
00:44:36	kugel	JdGordon: git.kernel.org is full of separate repos :)
00:45:28	JdGordon	[Saint]: also, i tinhk for the tablet 4 direction buttons (in a popup maybe) as it doesnt have any dpad and plenty of space
00:46:13	[Saint]	Way ahead of you ;) You'll be getting a big navigation/playback panel on the right of the "desktop".
00:46:28	JdGordon	cool!
00:46:51	[Saint]	So, more incentive to make playback controls work inthe .sbs if you'll have a pretty device with a pretty .sbs ;)
00:47:27	CIA-70	r29506 build result: All green
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00:52:09	thomasjfox	kugel: btw: I hope I didn't break the android build with the new "power" thread. Did you do a build today/tonight?
00:55:49	kugel	no
00:56:53	sideral	jhMikeS, thomasjfox: I just reproduced the strange self-pausing sim with r29505
00:57:47	thomasjfox	sideral: Did you do anything special?
00:58:02	sideral	Don't think so
00:58:08	jhMikeS	if we wanted it to do that, things would be perfect
00:58:24	sideral	except playing the mp4 file my ClipV2 doesn't play at all
00:58:49	jhMikeS	maybe it's actually two different things?
00:58:58	sideral	the default debug output doesn't show anything special
00:59:10	sideral	jhMikeS: Quite likely
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01:01:28	jhMikeS	maybe there's some memory issue on clip?
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01:02:04	sideral	jhMikeS: Why would it manifest with mp4 files only?
01:02:08	JdGordon	kugel: some things we really need to handle... losing the sdcard (it getting mounted) and headphone insert/remove
01:02:49	jhMikeS	sideral: you've verified that? if so, I'd generally lean towards the codec.
01:02:58	sideral	When I had differences between sim and target behavior in the past, it typically was related to a synchronization issue
01:03:50	sideral	jhMikeS: I'll try to reproduce self-pause with another codec tomorrow. I need to leave now, unfortunately
01:04:36	jhMikeS	ok, keep me posted. later.
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01:08:14	[Saint]	where is the cabbie graphics pack located?
01:08:23	[Saint]	JdGordon: ^
01:08:41	[Saint]	I need to construct some new images rather than bother trying to resize anything and further degrade it.
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01:10:16	[Saint]	kugel: ^ ?
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01:14:02	JdGordon	[Saint]: no idea
01:14:16	JdGordon	it REALLY REALLY should be in svn as svg
01:14:52	[Saint]	aha! found it in an ancient forum post.
01:15:19	JdGordon	link?
01:15:26	[Saint]	they're .psd files iirc, i may be able to convert them to scalable .svg
01:15:36	[Saint]	http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/pub/Main/DefaultWPS/cabbie2graphics.zip
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01:22:12	kugel	[Saint]: an icon pack is on the wiki, some files are in svn
01:22:59	kugel	wps/cabbiev2/sources/
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01:24:01	[Saint]	JdGordon: Nup, that messes things up pretty badly (not all bitmaps loaded in the .sbs, no input from the screen (can't scroll, can't select anything), and after launching the app forces close in ~30 seconds)
01:24:31	JdGordon	ok
01:24:44	JdGordon	did you backup your old apk?
01:25:08	CIA-70	New commit by thomasjfox (r29507): Fix bookmark creation on sleep timer. Fixes FS #11493
01:25:09	[Saint]	Y'know...that would have been a great idea huh? ;)
01:26:15	[Saint]	kugel: thomasjfox: Is the widget either one of you guys babies?
01:26:29	[Saint]	Or, who should I speak to about it?
01:26:47	*	thomasjfox didn't sell his soul to google yet
01:27:35	kugel	[Saint]: dionoea made the widget but I dived in
01:27:40	[Saint]	Oh, that's right... dionoea made it initially I think.
01:27:49	[Saint]	dionoea: Ping?
01:28:02	kugel	what's your question?
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01:28:46	CIA-70	r29507 build result: 90 errors, 0 warnings (thomasjfox committed)
01:29:25	[Saint]	kugel: Oh, right...it's not really a queation. If the size of the buttons can't be physically reduced, or the screen cannot be made to scroll, the widget creation screen needs to disinclude the logo on 240x320 targets
01:29:32	JdGordon	thomasjfox: you dont need to bother taking ownership if patches 2min before commiting them :)
01:29:56	kugel	[Saint]: can you make a screen shot?
01:29:58	thomasjfox	JdGordon: ok. That's just the workflow I'm used to in case the user reopens the bug
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01:30:24	kugel	the widget should work equally well on all resolutions (it's using android's density independent pixels)
01:30:28	JdGordon	thomasjfox: ok, well you can keep doing it if you want, just not sure if you thought you had to or not
01:30:29	[Saint]	the Rockbox logo on the widget creation screen (with the new addition of the cover art category) makes it exceed the dimensions of the screen.
01:30:45	[Saint]	kugel: Um, no sorry...what would I need to be able to do so?
01:30:51	kugel	ah you only mean the creation screen?
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01:31:06	kugel	ddms in the sdk can make screen shots
01:31:07	[Saint]	kugel: Correct.
01:31:22	[Saint]	the creation screen exceeds the screen dimensions.
01:31:26	kugel	scrolling should be possible
01:31:41	[Saint]	it used to fit, but the cover art addition pushed it over the limit.
01:31:53	[Saint]	and, I can't scroll the screen.
01:32:30	kugel	with possible I meant it's doable but not working right now
01:32:40	kugel	pixelma reported that some time ago
01:32:52	[Saint]	Oh, I see.
01:33:13	[Saint]	Yes, she has the same resolution screen as I do, so most likely saw the same or similar issue.
01:34:05	CIA-70	New commit by thomasjfox (r29508): Fix red in bootloader
01:34:31	*	thomasjfox kicks CIA-70. Work faster!
01:35:09	pixelma	on my phone the list to chose the widget's buttons when my phone's display is in landscape mode
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01:38:41	[Saint]	pixelma: regardless of the phones orientation?
01:39:06	[Saint]	errrr...sorry, nvm.
01:39:11	[Saint]	I read that incorrectly.
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01:39:52	pixelma	uh, the display is landscape when the keyboard is slid out
01:40:00	pixelma	+mode
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01:46:15	Vovad	the rockbox 3.8 download link doesn't seem to be working for me
01:46:20	Vovad	it takes me to the rockbox utility page
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01:50:26	Vovad	nevermind
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02:01:30	kugel	thomasjfox: android compiles at least, [Saint] can tell you in a few if it works ;)
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02:41:40	Vovad	alright a new issue has arisen
02:41:53	Vovad	ive got rockbox on the clip+ but when i plug it in, the device isnt showing up in my computer
02:42:07	Vovad	on the device its recognizing that its being plugged in but my computer doesnt see it
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02:43:35	Vovad	anyone there?
02:43:49	[Saint]	yes, you just need to be patient.
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02:51:53	Vovad	my device is not automatically switching to OF when usb is inserted, thats all
02:52:00	Vovad	(im not holding select)
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02:55:22	pixelma	yes, you need to manually start the OF or plug it in from the off state, automatic reboot into the OF has been disabled in you device since the procedure left some devices in a freeze state where you could only ger out by runninhg the battery flat - as far as I remember. Slight inconvevience for some was considered better than big inconvenience for others
02:55:37	mc2739	Vovad: you need to boot the original firmware for usb connection. the easiest way is to plug in with power off. after disconnecting, power off and back on to restart Rockbox.
02:57:01	Vovad	okay that makes sense, when i was reading the documentation it made it sound like even if it was already booted
02:57:04	Vovad	it would reboot automatically
02:57:13	Vovad	it seems as though this is how it is meant to work so thanks for the clarification
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03:17:38	ubi4	hey hey hey
03:18:12	ubi4	does upgrading firmware on clip+ is reseting settings?
03:25:03	krazykit	upgrading rockbox will not reset your settings
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04:34:28	edboyer93	i just started initlize the database on fy Fuze about 4 mins ago and it is stuck at 1119 found, what is wrong?
04:35:49	edboyer93	it is stuck on my Clip+ as well
04:36:29	edboyer93	and this is 3.8
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04:40:49	JdGordon\|	edboyer93: is it actually stuck?
04:41:08	JdGordon\|	if it has failed on both on the same file that would be very interesting...
04:41:38	JdGordon\|	in system > debug menu there should be an option to enable "metadata logging", enable that and retry the build
04:41:47	JdGordon\|	a file will be created which should say which file is causing the problem
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04:47:14	edboyer93	this just started to happen with 3.8
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05:08:21	edboyer93	after trying the metadata.log, windows is ask me to format my drive
05:09:05	JdGordon\|	sounds like filesystem corruption
05:09:39	JdGordon\|	oh.. what did you update from?
05:09:51	edboyer93	yeah i guess so, so should I format it and just use 3.7.1, since I had no problems with it
05:11:07	JdGordon\|	a bug got in between 3.7 and 3.8 and we dont know where or how to reproduce it quickly/reliably but 3.8.1 should be safe
05:12:33	edboyer93	so use 3.7.1 one until then
05:12:54	JdGordon\|	unless you want to help us track down the bug
05:13:16	JdGordon\|	did you do any copying to disk after installing 3.8?
05:13:36	edboyer93	just a config file that I always use
05:14:41	JdGordon\|	on both the clip and fuze?
05:14:51	edboyer93	yeah
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05:16:07	JdGordon\|	can you format one of them, install 3.8 then do a bunch of copying to it, then do a filescan and see if the filesystem got corrupted?
05:16:38	edboyer93	what do you mean by a filescane?
05:16:52	JdGordon\|	dilesystem scan
05:18:01	edboyer93	how do i do that?
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05:19:05	JdGordon\|	windows?
05:19:14	edboyer93	yeah
05:19:16	JdGordon\|	right click on the disk and go "scandisk"
05:19:38	JdGordon\|	right click > properties > tools > "check now"
05:20:33	edboyer93	ok
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05:23:45	edboyer93	and can I do a quick format?
05:23:58	JdGordon\|	yes, yes
05:31:18	edboyer93	I installed it, should I run rockbox before I do the copying?
05:32:40	JdGordon\|	yes :)
05:32:57	JdGordon\|	you need to be in the broken build to see if its problmeatic
05:33:30	edboyer93	so, then do the copying and boot into rockbox again?
05:34:03	JdGordon\|	boot rockbox, copy some files across (in rockbox usb), eject, reconnect and run checkdisk
05:34:44	edboyer93	i didn't know usb transfers were enabled in 3.8
05:35:34	edboyer93	when i plug it in while in rockbox it just charges it
05:35:52	JdGordon\|	ah ok
05:35:56	JdGordon\|	I thught it was enabled
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11:18:30	dionoea	[Saint]: pong
11:19:04	dionoea	[Saint]: if you were talking about the logo in the 2x2 widget, we can add an option in the configuration activity to remove it if you want.
11:19:28	dionoea	In fact I'll probably change the configuration activity to provide better layout configuration options (such as chosing item ordering)
11:20:17	pixelma	which makes it even more necessary that you can scroll the options (you can't currently and I guess that's one of his questions too)
11:21:01	dionoea	I plead guilty to only testing on 800x480 resolution emulators and devices :)
11:23:53	kugel	dionoea: logo in that configuration activity is the problem, not in the widgets
11:24:14	kugel	or that you can't scroll in it
11:24:56	dionoea	ah ok
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11:26:30	pixelma	I think the configuration dialogue should be scrollable anyway and the logo is really wasteful
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12:34:41	JdGordon\|	gevaerts: it was file system corruptuin, i was tihnking the same ata dma thing but i just realised its completly different SoC so maybe not?
12:36:07	gevaerts	JdGordon\|: yes, exactly. There might of course be file system corruption on AMSv2, but I doubt it's related to ATA DMA on PP502x :)
12:40:10	JdGordon\|	does anyone want to guess a bunch of changes which might cause the problem between 3.7 and 3.8?
12:40:47	JdGordon\|	im going to do a bunch of builds and store them on my ipod and just switch whenever the errors happen (away from comp for the weekend so doing a head of prebuilds)
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12:49:05	JdGordon\|	is there a ncie listing of the svn changes since 3.7?
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12:51:14	Zagor	JdGordon\|: I could make you a html page like the one on the front page
12:51:35	JdGordon\|	yes please if its not too much effort :)
12:52:10	JdGordon\|	that output makes it pretty easy to guess which revs to try
12:53:22	Zagor	since 3.7 or 3.7.1?
12:53:54	JdGordon\|	3.7
12:56:13	Zagor	http://www.rockbox.org/since-3.7.html
12:56:25	JdGordon\|	thanks
12:58:01	JdGordon\|	1100 changes, maybe i just do every ~250 and hope it narrows it down enough
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13:31:24	JdGordon\|	ah no, but it is a bug fix which meas its probably the break!
13:32:09	JdGordon\|	nope, the diff wouldnt affect my mini
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18:09:00	pixelma	deeice_: if it's Rockbox code then yes
18:19:37	deeice_	yes. rockbox code. I built it as an sdl app for the zipit but it doesn't build if I remove HAVE_TOUCHSCREEN and/or HAVE_BUTTON_DATA.
18:20:44	deeice_	The zipit doesn't have a touchscreen or a mouse, so I don't think I should need those.
18:22:10	gevaerts	That's probably true, but you may well be the first to try building the sdl app without them
18:22:37	gevaerts	So I'm not entirely surprised that there are errors
18:23:54	deeice_	Ahh, ok. Should I separate those bug fixes from my zipit patch?
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18:27:48	deeice_	Also, I see the log last month had some talk about 3 different thread options. Is that just in the android code?
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18:38:10	gevaerts	deeice_: that should fix some of the issues. The remaining one that I can see is that there's no get_context_mapping() implementation for SDL targets without touchscreen
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18:41:08	CIA-63	r29511 build result: All green
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18:42:19	deeice_	So, to build plugins I need to add an SDL_PAD mapping to all of them?
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18:47:23	gevaerts	Probably.
18:47:23	gevaerts	I'm not sure what else is neede
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19:50:00	Galaxor	Hi. I have a sansa clip+. I just got rockbox installed on it. When I plug it back into the usb, the computer does not notice it.
19:50:02	Galaxor	When I boot back to the original firmware, it does connect to the computer.
19:50:02	pixelma	currently you need to manually start the Sansa firmware for USB (by holding a certain button during boot, the manual should tell you the correct one) or by plugging USB from an off-state
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19:50:07	pixelma	Rockbox USB is currently not working on your device and the automatic reboot was disabled because it caused major trouble for some
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19:52:32	Galaxor	pixelma: Dang. I used to have the sansa e250. I had it for years and just now it got usb support and I was thrilled, and just then, it broke. I got the sansa clip because it's available at any drugstore and rockbox said it was a stable port. I think the "Stable ports" thing should mention if usb doesn't work on a device.
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19:53:28	Galaxor	(btw, when I say "it broke", I mean my e250 physically broke)
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20:02:35	Luca_S	Galaxor: you can always enable it by compiling yourself a custom build
20:03:05	Luca_S	I'm using rockbox USB on a FuzeV2 and lately it became much more stable than in the past
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20:14:22	Galaxor	Luca_S: Oh? A custom build? I figured it was disabled for a reason. Are we talking about bricking the machine? Always crashing it and having to reboot? Occasionally crashing?
20:14:51	Torne	usb crashing at random and your file transfers being interrupted
20:15:04	Torne	which may leave the filesystem corrupt
20:16:31	Luca_S	sure, it's disabled for a reason: some users seem to have bad luck and find their player locked up, sometimes until battery drains down (which can take even a whole week)
20:17:06	Torne	Luca_S: that's why rebooting automatically is disabled.
20:17:08	Luca_S	more frequently, the filesystem becomes corrupted (as Torne said)
20:17:11	Torne	not why USB in rockbox is disabled.
20:17:16	Torne	the two are seperate
20:17:50	Torne	rebooting automatically to the OF to do USB causes the player to lock up sometimes requiring waiting a week for it to discharge. rockbox USB just loses connection at random, possibly while you are transferring data and corrupting the fs as a result
20:17:52	Luca_S	well... i was referring to the whole set of usb functionalities, but yes, your precisation is useful
20:18:00	Torne	There's no such "whole set"
20:18:02	Torne	the two are mutually exclusive
20:18:08	Torne	either you reboot to the OF, or you use rockbox USB :)
20:18:09	Galaxor	Torne: When the filesystem is corrupted, is that fixable?
20:18:11	Torne	or neither.
20:18:19	Torne	Galaxor: you can format it :)
20:18:26	Torne	chkdsk may be able to repair corruption, or may not
20:18:30	Torne	and even if it repairs it you may lose data
20:18:41	Torne	but you can always just format it and start over, it won't ever permanently damage anything
20:18:51	Galaxor	Torne: How often does the fs get corrupted?
20:18:58	Torne	Totally unpredictable
20:19:01	Torne	Could be every time you try adn use it
20:19:02	Torne	could be never
20:19:13	Torne	Depends at exactly what moment usb disconnects, if it does.
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20:19:25	Galaxor	Cuz I tell ya, every time I have to boot to the OF, I gotta wait for it to scan the device twice. Pain in the $#$@
20:20:10	Luca_S	in my experience, only when rockbox crashes (I had some problems with the database) or when I forget to safely disconnect the device from windows
20:20:43	Torne	It depends entirely on luck, though
20:20:58	Torne	there are plenty of times during file copying/whatevwer where if it's interrupted at that exact moment it will corrupt the fs
20:21:09	Torne	you just have to hope that it doesn't choose to crash at one of those times
20:21:22	Galaxor	I wish I could help with this stuff. I've never done such low-level stuff.
20:22:49	Galaxor	I'd like to learn, but I've overcommitted my free-time programming :(
20:22:54	Galaxor	I wish I was three people.
20:31:31	CIA-12	New commit by bluebrother (r29512): Don't link libz explicitly on Windows. ...
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20:37:17	Buschel	mshathlonxp: you there?
20:37:30	mshathlonxp	no I'm not :>
20:38:03	Buschel	that's bad. then I cannot ask you if you could test the patch in FS #11973
20:38:05	Buschel	;)
20:38:28	mshathlonxp	I tought you are going to ask me something like that, so I'm not here
20:38:31	*	mshathlonxp laughs
20:38:54	mshathlonxp	is it in newest release?
20:39:09	mshathlonxp	current build*
20:39:19	Buschel	I guess you're not there because you cannot build the software on your own?
20:39:37	Buschel	in this case I'll build it right now and send you a link to download it
20:39:41	mshathlonxp	ok
20:39:42	Buschel	will take ~20 min
20:42:18	Galaxor	Okay, I put a bunch of stuff on my sansa clip+, and then I rebooted over to rockbox. I told it to initialize the database. It said the number of files it had found, which climbed and climbed. Now it hit 903 files, and it's been there for several minutes, and the disk-access indicator is not on or flashing or anything. I can make that info window go away, and explore the rest of the UI, but it won't let me in to the database.
20:43:34	saratoga	theres been a lot of trouble with the database lately, particularly on the Sandisk players, so its probably just hung
20:44:08	Luca_S	Galaxor: I have the same problem, with my fuze. Now your only option is to force shutdown (i don't know how to do it on the clip+, probably just keep pressed the power button until it shuts down)
20:44:24	Luca_S	unluckily, your file system will probably be broken when you restart it
20:44:38	Luca_S	(replace broken with corrupted in my previous sentence)
20:45:16	Luca_S	so you should run a chkdsk on your clip+
20:45:20	Galaxor	Luca_S: Well, I restarted it, and the device seems to work just fine, but it still thinks the database is not initialized.
20:46:09	Galaxor	Dude, what are the unstable ports like???
20:46:25	Luca_S	Galaxor: don't judge rockbox so fast
20:47:03	Luca_S	it's great, and if you'll have the time to help the developers pinpoint the problem, these things will be ironed out
20:47:29	Galaxor	Luca_S: I used it for years on my e250. I loved it there.
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20:47:42	Luca_S	in my experience, building the database without the uSD inserted works (of course it doesn't index the files on uSD)
20:47:52	Luca_S	is it the same for your player?
20:48:17	Galaxor	Luca_S: I don't have an sd card in there right now.
20:48:39	Luca_S	so there it goes my only driver related explanation :D
20:49:06	Luca_S	i'm not a rockbox developer, just to make it clear...
20:49:14	gevaerts	There's still the "metadata parser chokes on one particular file" option
20:49:35	Luca_S	Galaxor: have you tried toggling dircache?
20:50:03	Galaxor	Luca_S: No, I don't know what that means.
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20:51:18	Luca_S	Settings > General > System > Disk > Directory Cache, then reboot
20:51:31	*	gevaerts doesn't see a real reason to suspect dircache
20:52:05	Galaxor	Hm. Now I rebooted to OF and plugged it in to my machine to fsck. My machine can't read the device. Here's a line from dmesg: usb 4-1: device descriptor read/64, error -71
20:52:26	Luca_S	gevaerts: me neither, but at some point while fiddling with those options my player succesfully built the database... i'm just trying to see if any of those options help anybody else
20:52:39	Galaxor	(now, I occasionally have problems with my external hard drive dropping out on this machine, so it may not be the device's fault)
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20:55:42	saratoga	Galaxor: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/TargetClassifications
20:56:50	gevaerts	Galaxor: after you've tried the dircache change, if it still doesn't work, go to "System -> Debug (Keep Out)", and pick "Metadata log". Then try rebuilding the database again
20:57:23	bluebrother	any objections to deleting the old wpseditor from svn? It's unmaintained and we have the new shiny themeeditor since quite a while now
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20:59:30	Galaxor	gevaerts: That'll log its efforts to build the db, so I can figure out what the problem is?
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21:00:04	gevaerts	Galaxor: that will log all files as they're scanned, so if it's one of your audio files triggering the problem, you'll know which one
21:00:43	Galaxor	gevaerts: Okee doke. Logging.
21:01:46	Galaxor	gevaerts: Though I'm not sure I'll be able to get any data off of there. Still unable to connect to usb even from OF. Rebooted a couple times. My computer is not usually that flaky with usb.
21:02:00	Galaxor	and the hard drive has not dropped out today.
21:02:03	gevaerts	Galaxor: you can view the log file on the device if needed
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21:02:35	Buschel	mshathlonxp: here you go (nano 1G build) -> http://www.sendspace.com/file/c71cz6
21:02:38	Galaxor	gevaerts: How do I view the log on the device?
21:03:25	saratoga	its a text file stored on the root of the player
21:03:44	gevaerts	Galaxor: the file ends up as "metadata log" in the root of the filesystem. Navigate to it, get its context menu, pick "open with", and pick "text_viewer"
21:03:55	saratoga	but i think it won't show much, it seems like a lot of the problems reported aren't due to the file itself, but rather something wrong with the file system or database itself
21:04:36	Galaxor	I don't see the file in the files list. I wonder if the machine is just stuffed too full to write anything?
21:05:01	Luca_S	Galaxor: you may have to set the file filter to 'All'
21:05:31	Luca_S	on fuze, long press the center button on the Files menu entry to access its context menu, then select Show Files... > All
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21:06:15	Galaxor	Oh. The metadata.log file is there now.
21:06:19	Galaxor	I'm reading it.
21:07:17	gevaerts	Galaxor: If this is the problem, the last file listed will be the culprit
21:07:28	Galaxor	Okay, the last entry is something in ##MUSIC# −− something that came with the player, not something I put there.
21:10:14	*	mshathlonxp pulls his nano out of the dock
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21:12:13	mshathlonxp	twice turned recording on and off, afterwards still sound
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21:13:08	mshathlonxp	Buschel but I hope it's problem with your build and not patch that my nano crashed when I plugged it back :D
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21:14:26	mshathlonxp	damn
21:15:03	*	mshathlonxp just understood that in order to upload other rockbox version, default firmware now has to be booted :D
21:15:13	gevaerts	huh?
21:16:23	mshathlonxp	Undefined instruction at 0150058 (0)
21:17:42	gevaerts	When doing what?
21:18:27	mshathlonxp	connecting to PC
21:19:04	mshathlonxp	it briefly shows usual "USB keyboard mode" and then crash
21:19:13	Buschel	you are not running my build yet?
21:19:21	mshathlonxp	eh, welcome to original shitty firmware
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21:19:42	*	gevaerts tries to find the connection with "in order to upload other rockbox version"
21:20:05	mshathlonxp	Buschel we can say that I'm not using it anymore ;)
21:20:37	Galaxor	All right. I deleted the offending file, and it can now complete the database scan.
21:20:39	Buschel	could you test it or do you have any issues with installing it
21:20:45	Galaxor	I got music playing and everything!
21:20:54	mshathlonxp	...
21:20:56	gevaerts	Galaxor: you don't happen to have a copy of it?
21:21:10	mshathlonxp	[20:13] <mshathlonxp> twice turned recording on and off, afterwards still sound
21:21:34	Galaxor	gevaerts: Man, I couldn't keep it cuz I couldn't get connected to the pc. I deleted it thru the interface. Sorry.
21:21:42	mshathlonxp	is that enough?
21:21:45	Buschel	mshathlonxp: ooops ;) didn't see that.
21:21:54	Buschel	yes, fixed then. so I'll commit
21:22:04	gevaerts	Galaxor: ah, right. Pity, it would have been nice to look at it to figure out what went wrong. Oh well...
21:22:26	mshathlonxp	as I said, I hope your patch isn't the cause for my current problem
21:22:31	Galaxor	gevaerts: Yeah. If this happens again, I'll know what steps to take, and I'll make sure to keep a copy.
21:22:37	Galaxor	gevaerts: Thanks.
21:23:01	gevaerts	Galaxor: don't thank me. Thank the people who added the logging :)
21:24:01	Galaxor	Meanwhile, re: connecting to the pc −− I don't get any "error reading..." type messages in dmesg anymore. It just says "usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning" and then apparently the device never settles, cuz I never hear from it again.
21:24:06	Buschel	mshathlonxp: what _exactly_ was the problem? crashing when connecting USB?
21:24:11	mshathlonxp	yes
21:24:27	Buschel	and current svn works for you?
21:24:35	Galaxor	gevaerts: Indeed. I love adding logging to things.
21:25:06	*	mshathlonxp pulls nano out of the dock, bye bye shitty firmware, I hope nobody will ever mess up rockbox again and I won't see you again :D
21:25:28	mshathlonxp	Buschel yes
21:25:45	Galaxor	Any ideas about this inability to connect to pc, even from OF? Or should I reboot my pc to see if that was the problem?
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21:26:31	Buschel	mshathlonxp: my build has been built against r29502. you do not have this one available? otherwise I'll just resync, rebuild and ask for another test run
21:26:39	gevaerts	Galaxor: have you tried another cable or USB port?
21:27:22	*	mshathlonxp just installed newest, r29512
21:27:35	mshathlonxp	what do you want from 29502?
21:27:39	Galaxor	gevaerts: Yes and yes.
21:28:01	gevaerts	Galaxor: in that case, either rebooting or reloading the EHCI driver.
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21:28:23	Buschel	r29502 = the version from svn I used to patch and build for you. I'll now build again using r29512
21:28:43	Buschel	will be done in ~3 minutes...
21:28:49	mshathlonxp	to see if USB will work?
21:29:15	Buschel	yes. and an unpatched r29512 works fine?
21:29:28	mshathlonxp	of course it does
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21:31:03	Galaxor	gevaerts: Okay. Rebooting. brb.
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21:31:22	Buschel	build takes longer
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21:36:44	Galaxor	Okay. Rebooted. Same usb problem. Looks like it's broken forever. Hope I like the music I put on there!
21:37:07	gevaerts	Weird
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21:37:31	Luca_S	Galaxor: don't you have access to a windows box? it's the first time i ever heard of such a problem
21:37:56	Galaxor	Luca_S: Hm. I don't have windows around right now. How would that help?
21:39:06	Luca_S	you said usb is sometimes flaky on your box, it could be a driver problem and maybe the clip+ is quite sensitive. usually windows has more forgiving drivers
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21:41:53	Galaxor	Oh, y'know what? I bet that after I installed rockbox, the original firmware lost its settings and forgot that it should be in MSC mode and not MTP.
21:42:31	Galaxor	Bingo!
21:42:38	Luca_S	nice to hear :)
21:42:55	Galaxor	Dang, I wish I'd thought of that in time to save that evil file.
21:43:03	gevaerts	Oh, indeed
21:43:22	Luca_S	I should have somewhere the OF music files
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21:43:29	Luca_S	do you remember which one was?
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21:44:17	Galaxor	Luca_S: It was from someone with a first name of "Andrew", I think. The title of the album was "Single".
21:44:24	Buschel	mshathlonxp: http://www.sendspace.com/file/fwdstt
21:44:27	Luca_S	andrew paul woodworth
21:44:31	Luca_S	:)
21:44:32	Galaxor	Luca_S: Yeah.
21:44:41	notlistening	Would anyone be intrest in feedback on the Android Port?
21:45:05	Luca_S	I still have it, unluckily that song never gave me any problems :(
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21:45:51	Luca_S	well, let's delete the db on my device and see if it rebuilds correctly. I have about 10 gb of music, if it's song related it will happen again..
21:46:01	Galaxor	Luca_S: Hm. I wonder if it was just too full to write the database file, then. The device only had like 8MB free until I deleted that file.
21:46:11	gevaerts	Maybe
21:46:27	Luca_S	Galaxor: in my case, I had plenty of space.
21:46:58	Galaxor	Luca_S: Yeah, this device is only 2GB. I've got a 2GB card at home I'm hoping to use with it.
21:47:53	Galaxor	Now, that "Andrew Paul Woodworth" song was in a directory called /##MUSIC#, which was visible from the rockbox file browser, but is not visible when I mount the device as a drive.
21:48:10	Galaxor	Is that just some magic from the original firmware to prevent people from copying those files?
21:48:59	Luca_S	not really, it's just the folder that gets exposed under MTP mode
21:49:27	mshathlonxp	Buschel it's fine now :)
21:49:32	Luca_S	if you sync music using windows media player or any other mtp client, you won't see it in MSC mode
21:49:36	Buschel	good :)
21:50:22	Buschel	then I'll prepare the submit
21:50:25	Luca_S	uhm.. isn't there a "trash database option"?
21:50:37	Luca_S	what can I do to delete my existing database?
21:50:42	Luca_S	just delete the idx files?
21:51:59	Luca_S	oops, I meant tcd files :)
21:53:34	CIA-12	New commit by Buschel (r29513): Fix FS #11973. iPod nano1G needed reboot after entering record mode to have audio again.
21:54:18	Galaxor	Okay, well I think I am good to go now! Thanks, everybody!
21:55:18	*	Buschel thinks it would be good to have r29513 fixed for 3.8.1 as well
21:55:38	Buschel	ahem, "migrated to" not "fixed for"
21:57:11	CIA-12	r29513 build result: All green
21:58:41	*	bluebrother uploaded Windows svn build of Rockbox Utility
21:58:52	CIA-12	New commit by Buschel (r29514): Integrate r29513 to v3.8 branch. Fixes FS #11973.
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22:04:01	Luca_S	gevaerts: are you still interested in a file that blocked my player during db rebuild?
22:04:39	gevaerts	Luca_S: I personally am not, since I don't know anything about that area of the code. Other people definitely will be though
22:05:05	Buschel	Luca_S: I am interested
22:07:25	stripwax	is this a 'blocked during db rebuild and definitely NOT related to ata dma random memory corruption' ?
22:08:12	Luca_S	Buschel: uploading now, will give the address in Query if you don't mind
22:08:22	Buschel	fine for me
22:08:24	Luca_S	stripwax: I have no idea to what it's related to
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22:09:27	stripwax	Luca_S - does your metadata.log (or your symptoms) look anything like the one in here http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11976
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22:09:47	gevaerts	stripwax: IIRC Luca_S has a fuze
22:10:12	Luca_S	FuzeV2, right
22:10:18	gevaerts	So unrelated to the PP DMA thing
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22:11:12	stripwax	ah, sorry. i was trying to read back through irc and guess I misread.
22:11:38	Luca_S	no path corruption here...
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22:20:05	Buschel	Luca_S: file parser normally on sim
22:20:12	Buschel	parses
22:21:35	Luca_S	tough luck :(
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22:22:08	Buschel	Luca_S: it was a fuzev2, correct?
22:22:43	Luca_S	yes, and the song was on a uSD, like many others that blocked the db in the past and that I had deleted
22:22:58	Luca_S	ejecting the uSD, the db rebuilds correctly
22:24:19	Luca_S	now retrying building with the uSD inserted again
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22:25:44	Luca_S	stuck on a different song, one that was parsed succesfully before :/
22:25:46	Buschel	the file has a _really_ large ID3v2 tag
22:26:05	Buschel	~370 KB
22:27:27	Buschel	~250 KB of that are 0x0
22:27:31	Luca_S	uhm... this time is not really stuck... it takes about 1 minute per file however
22:29:25	pixelma	Buschel: I wonder why but I once found a 6MB jpg embedded in a file of mine and it didn't cause trouble in Rockbox. That was all before your recent fixes and before embedded albumart support
22:29:53	Luca_S	pixelma: I had troubles even before embedded AA support
22:29:56	Buschel	wow, the file has 350KB id3v2 tag at the file beginning, a classic id3v tag preceeded by apev2 and some other tag format which I do not know
22:30:23	pixelma	I only use the database occasionally though and usually do a full "initialise", not update
22:30:46	Luca_S	mp3tag reports ID3v2.3, ID3v1 and APEv2
22:31:14	Buschel	pixelma: I am just wondering. there could be some filesize and space saved
22:32:02	pixelma	just saying that it's probably not a simple "large tag = trouble" problem
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22:33:00	Buschel	yes. as it is working in the sim here. I was just impressed by the vast number or 0x0's
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22:38:59	Luca_S	the same file plays fine, doesn't show the embedded AA, but I think that's not a jpeg file
22:39:15	Buschel	the tag says it is a bmp file
22:39:38	Luca_S	however it plays and shows metadata in track info
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22:40:09	Buschel	yep, I don't think the file or it's tags were your problem...
22:40:57	Buschel	however, need to get some sleep now
22:41:01	Buschel	good night!
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22:41:08	Luca_S	good night, thank you
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22:46:42	pamaury	does someone now which tools is used to compute the crc of a rockbox image ? scramble ?
22:50:43	linuxstb	pamaury: Yes. But for most targets it's just a simple checksum (a sum of all the bytes in the file, plus the value of "modelnum"), not a crc.
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22:53:51	pamaury	how does scramble know the offset of the crc field since it's not the same for all targets ?
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23:04:05	linuxstb	pamaury: I'm not sure which offset you mean, but scramble is passed the name of the target, and then it does the right thing. Have you looked at its source?
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23:05:02	pamaury	linuxstb: I don't understand the source
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23:13:41	S_a_i_n_t	[23:31] <dionoea> it filled empty space nicely on my device <−−−− )n a 240x320 device, there is no free space ;)
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23:17:35	pamaury	does the file produced by scramble has a different format depending on the target ?
23:19:10	linuxstb	pamaury: Yes. Maybe searching tools/configure for the various calls to scramble will be helpful.
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23:20:22	linuxstb	The "-add" option is Rockbox's own format - an 8 byte header consisting of a 4-byte target identifier, and a 32-bit checksum. Other options will be for when Rockbox needs to be in a specific format - e.g. we use the "mi4" format for a lot of the PortalPlayer devices (Sansa etc)
23:21:25	Torne	scramble just does "whatever has to be done to turn a bin into what the loader needs on this target"
23:23:06	pamaury	ok, I was looking for the rockbox's own format, now I have my answer :)
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