#rockbox 2011-03-30

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00:55:32	Hindu_	Ah I suppose , my net conn. went off , sry for that
00:56:47	Hindu_	Yeah , I was saying that I understand the kind of work involved , thats why I am constantly struck with this project
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01:00:55	Hindu	Anyways , thanks stripwax for your suggestions . I shall certainly follow them. :0
01:02:21	stripwax	any time
01:02:23	stripwax	happy to help!
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03:44:57	saratoga	scorche: ban cenfdavuj
03:53:31	timccc	moved
03:54:01	L-Strife89	timccc: If you're going to format your iPod's disk, DEFINITELY follow IpodManualRestore.
03:54:09	krazykit	timccc, the easiest thing to do would be to install the new hard drive and let itunes take care of reformatting
03:54:23	L-Strife89	krazykit: He is on Ubuntu
03:54:45	krazykit	that doesn't make my statement any less wrong ;)
03:55:00	krazykit	it just means timccc uses the manual restore or finds a friend
03:57:27	L-Strife89	Yeah
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04:07:38	timccc	so http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IpodManualRestore sends me to http://www.felixbruns.de/iPod/firmware/ but felix's device lookup thing doesn't work. i know i need either 5.5 or 5(13) or 5(20)
04:10:54	saratoga	why can't you use the 5.5?
04:11:37	timccc	is it correct for an ipod video 60gb?
04:12:24	saratoga	is it a 5.5?
04:13:19	timccc	! thats my question
04:14:10	saratoga	well i can't tell you what ipod you have
04:14:17	timccc	i mentioned it here because rb.org links to a place that claims to have the answer, but doesn't
04:15:25	saratoga	did you try apple's support page? i think they have an article explaining what each ipod is
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04:16:03	oldbushie	hallo
04:16:29	oldbushie	I'm trying to compile the Android port under Cygwin but I keep getting error messages about a missing arm-linux-androideabi-gcc
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04:17:04	JdGordon	didnt it warn you about missing the NDK?
04:17:21	oldbushie	I had tried running installToolchain.sh but although it downloaded and extracted the sdk and ndk correctly, it failed with a weird Java error afterwards
04:17:36	oldbushie	it said that sdk and ndk were present I think
04:18:07	JdGordon	i doubt that script would work with cygwin
04:18:24	oldbushie	hm
04:18:47	oldbushie	well, at least I have the sdk and ndk now, so I thought as long as I ran ../tools/configure && make -j3 with the right paths set I would be fine
04:18:55	oldbushie	and I did confirm that those environment variables got set
04:19:10	JdGordon	if it cant find the compiler they havnt been set
04:19:14	oldbushie	hm
04:20:16	Strife89	timccc: If it's a 60GB, it's probably a 5 (not 5.5)
04:20:39	Strife89	timccc: That would mean you want firmware 20.1.3
04:21:09	timccc	ya, i got it now Strife89, thanks :D
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04:25:28	oldbushie	well, CygWin's being an utter pain...
04:25:45	oldbushie	does anyone have a recent build for Android? preferably 480x800
04:26:22	oldbushie	I don't have a full-fledged irc client though so a url would be much appreciated, thanks
04:27:40	*	JdGordon is feeling generous.. gimme a min
04:27:51	timccc	so the last step in IpodManualRestore tells me to 'mkfs.vfat -F 32 /dev/sdX2' but mkfs.vfat complains 'mkfs.vfat: failed whilst writing reserved sector'
04:27:52	oldbushie	heh, thanks :)
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04:31:07	JdGordon	oldbushie: jdgordon.info/rockbox/rockbox.apk">http://jdgordon.info/rockbox/rockbox.apk
04:31:44	oldbushie	awesome, thanks!
04:31:56	oldbushie	that should tide me over until I manage to figure out what's screwing up cygwin
04:32:04	oldbushie	probably have to dick around with the main PATH
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04:35:09	oldbushie	hm, the logo was all screwed up when it first started, wrong dimensions inserted maybe? it does run though :)
04:35:26	oldbushie	also, <3 AndFTP, I have an FTP server on my home machine and it's so easy to move files around
04:35:33	oldbushie	I just got a smartphone for the first time Sunday
04:36:00	JdGordon	ignore the logo issue, i didnt do a full rebuild from my patched version, it shoud have all the current bits though
04:36:09	oldbushie	ah, gotcha
04:36:21	oldbushie	should be enough at least to test if I can stream music to the phone
04:36:29	oldbushie	I have an edna mp3 server set up
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04:43:09	oldbushie	oh, and I think I found out the issue
04:43:21	oldbushie	the bins that do exist are not executable under cygwin for some reason
04:43:27	oldbushie	thus why they're "not available"
04:43:45	oldbushie	I guess I need a different sdk+ndk version to get things working
04:46:46	oldbushie	oh, you know what??
04:46:52	oldbushie	I think this might be a 64 bit version of cygwin
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04:48:08	[Saint]	oldbushie: don't waste your time trying to build RaaA on CygWin
04:48:16	oldbushie	heh, ok
04:48:32	[Saint]	the lead developer of RaaA said a long time ago that it's probably not even possible.
04:48:37	oldbushie	gotcha
04:49:13	[Saint]	Someone looked into it a while back, and there was a patch...but that was a long time ago and a lots changed since then.
04:49:20	oldbushie	nod
04:49:29	[Saint]	I couldn't even get it to build on CygWin when it was supposed to work ;)
04:49:29	oldbushie	so, I'm better off just using virtualbox then
04:49:35	[Saint]	yeppers.
04:49:40	oldbushie	which is fine, I do have a Linux vm already
04:52:27	oldbushie	cygwin is a pain in the arse anyways
04:54:29	[Saint]	If you don't use it for anything else specifically, it's a bit painful to set up for this sole purpose.
04:55:03	oldbushie	well, I had already used it for something before, namely a font editing program, but yeah
04:55:15	oldbushie	I should just stick with a vm for anything linux related from now on
04:55:25	oldbushie	cygwin is slow as balls
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04:57:09	oldbushie	hm, it's not playing m3u files
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05:15:52	oldbushie	doing a ton of updates
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06:15:22	Leif	So, I'm just about ready to send my GSoC proposal. Did any of you have any of you who read it have any recommendations? (Too short, too long, not technical enough, etc.)?
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06:16:11	DJeXeCute	I have a question will Ipod Classic ever be supported?
06:17:29	JdGordon	depends how long you wait
06:17:57	Leif	DJeXeCute, A quick search on the webpage: http://www.rockbox.org/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2007-09/0216.shtml
06:18:31	Leif	Meh, actually, that's really old: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IpodClassicPort
06:18:51	Leif	^^^May be more relevant^^^
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06:31:04	[Saint]	DJeXeCute: It's "supported" now.
06:31:19	Leif	[Saint], Cool. :)
06:31:37	[Saint]	It's classed as "unusable" (it's actually very usable), but it's still "supported".
06:31:54	[Saint]	As in, "there is a functional port, that works, and plays audio"
06:32:29	[Saint]	there is however, no dual-boot support, and until very recently installation was a bit of a PITA
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06:37:09	DJeXeCute	Ok so how do I go about doing this I tried to install EmCore but it need me to boot it into DFU mode and my Ipod Refuses
06:37:25	[Saint]	I assure you it doesn't.
06:37:31	[Saint]	you just won't be doing ti right.
06:37:34	[Saint]	*it
06:37:52	DJeXeCute	What?
06:38:02	[Saint]	if you plug in the dock connector, and hold menu+select for ~12+ seconds, it will go into DFU mode.
06:38:24	DJeXeCute	It does but then boots back into normal Ipod mode
06:38:40	[Saint]	you're releasing the key combination too quickly then.
06:39:25	[Saint]	you need to hold menu+select, the iPod will reboot, keep holding menu+select, the apple screen will show, keep holding it, it will fade to black, this is DFU mode.
06:40:11	DJeXeCute	It says Found new Hardware DFU blah blah driver failed then reboots
06:40:36	[Saint]	are you pointing it to the driver whn it asks?
06:40:41	[Saint]	*when
06:41:03	DJeXeCute	Ok tried the USB 3.0 PCI card and it worked
06:41:22	DJeXeCute	My Ipod now says UMSboot
06:41:35	DJeXeCute	And something about a UBI file
06:43:36	[Saint]	http://www.freemyipod.org/wiki/EmCORE_Installation/iPodClassic
06:44:29	[Saint]	DJeXeCute: follow that link, answer the questions, do what it says.
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06:45:02	DJeXeCute	Ok I got the File but I see no "UMSBoot" volume its just a blank drive no files or folders
06:45:16	DJeXeCute	Should I drop it straight in
06:45:18	DJeXeCute	?
06:45:29	[Saint]	the volume label should be "UMSboot", and it should be 64MB
06:45:39	DJeXeCute	Oh nvm forget I asked that
06:45:53	DJeXeCute	I clicked finish on drivers and it changed from Ipod to UMS
06:45:53	[Saint]	there's no directory called UMSboot, that's the volume label of the RAMdisk
06:49:39	DJeXeCute	Booted into rockbox
06:49:51	[Saint]	congrats
06:50:06	DJeXeCute	Now how do I get doom and gameboy emulators on it?
06:50:16	DJeXeCute	Thats why I bought this
06:51:11	[Saint]	they are already there, for rockboy (the gameboy/gameboy colour emu) you need to provide your own ROMs, and we can't talk about that here unless it's legal homebrew.
06:51:23	[Saint]	and for doom, you need to freedoom WAD from our extras page.
06:51:48	DJeXeCute	There nothing under Games apps or demos though there already on there?
06:52:05	DJeXeCute	And I already have my roms pulled from cart
06:52:18	[Saint]	what? there's nothing under games apps or demos?
06:52:27	DJeXeCute	Nope
06:52:34	[Saint]	Hmmm.
06:52:37	DJeXeCute	You can go any further then plugins
06:52:53	DJeXeCute	can"t
06:54:26	[Saint]	TheSeven: This sounds like your area of expertise...I'm not that clued up on how complete the Classic port is, but I assumed that plugins would "just work" from what's already there with the Video port. ^
06:54:59	[Saint]	DJeXeCute: TheSeven is the lead developer of that port, he's been pinged now...so if he can answer he will, but you might have to idle here for a while.
06:55:58	DJeXeCute	Thats fine
06:56:33	DJeXeCute	I just want to use this for music, movies, homebrew, and gameboy games thats all so I can wait
06:59:14	DJeXeCute	Oh theres no .rockbox directory
06:59:53	DJeXeCute	Is there something I could just drop in like the video's .rockbox folder?
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07:00:39	[Saint]	there's no .rockbox dir? What OS are you using?
07:01:15	DJeXeCute	Windows XP but its my ipod that says it
07:01:25	DJeXeCute	Rockbock is giving me the no .rockbox error
07:01:58	DJeXeCute	"No .rockbox Directory" "Installation Incomplete"
07:02:24	DJeXeCute	Thats what it says when i try to play a song I dropped on it
07:02:49	[Saint]	has it been rebooted since the installation?
07:03:36	DJeXeCute	Yep
07:04:07	*	[Saint] shrugs
07:04:23	[Saint]	Sorry, this has definitely moved into TheSeven's feild of expertise ;)
07:05:07	DJeXeCute	Crap how can i get it back to DFU to reformat it as a normal Ipod?
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07:06:25	[Saint]	Uninstallation is another reasonably tricky subject (it just got a lot easier, thanks to TheSeven's recent work), but it's almost certainly best to wait for him to confirm how to resotre the device.
07:06:47	DJeXeCute	Crap I broke my brand new ipod
07:07:01	[Saint]	No, it's recoverable.
07:07:22	DJeXeCute	You sure?
07:07:29	[Saint]	You just need someone with more insight into it's inner workings than I.
07:07:52	[Saint]	And yes, anything past the Nano3G has DFU mode and can be recovered.
07:07:58	DJeXeCute	I held down select and menu for 40 seconds and all it did was reboot into emCore
07:08:05	[Saint]	(unless it's a serious HW error, which this is not)
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07:12:35	DJeXeCute	I wish I would have looked into this more before buying the classic or I would have just got a ipod video and a 160gig replacement drive
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07:23:50	*	[Saint] wonders if any sweetheart has a "mute-bug free" (r29653+) RaaA build for 240x320 precompiled.
07:24:15	[Saint]	JdGordon: what's the state of your res-independant build?
07:24:54	JdGordon	fucked if I know... I didnt get any sort of answer last night, android is stopping me committing it
07:25:16	*	JdGordon can do a 240x320 for you
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07:25:41	[Saint]	when it's in, you could still specify a build at X res? or all .apk's become massive?
07:25:53	[Saint]	not that I mind the latter, I've got a lot of space left.
07:26:18	JdGordon	when its in plugins are excluded from the build which is why im hesitant
07:26:32	JdGordon	otherwise what ends up in the zip is up to whoever is making the zip
07:27:05	[Saint]	Ah...right. It's only random_folder_advance_config which is broken with symlinks, and coverflow
07:27:32	[Saint]	errr...pictureflow (don't sue, don't sue! ;))
07:27:36	JdGordon	[Saint]: jdgordon.info/rockbox/rockbox.apk">http://jdgordon.info/rockbox/rockbox.apk
07:27:38	JdGordon	and credits
07:27:57	[Saint]	ah, yeah...credits is one that matters if it's borked I guess.
07:28:19	[Saint]	thanks for the build
07:29:12	JdGordon	RFA config will work as it only uses the standard list widgets
07:29:26	JdGordon	credits really shuold be reworked to use the multi screen api
07:29:36	JdGordon	and i dont particularly care about pictureflow
07:29:56	DJeXeCute	I have a way to fix my ipod now but it won't show as connected now
07:30:09	[Saint]	It's nice to have...but it's one of those things I kinda know that if it gets broken, someone will fix it.
07:30:19	[Saint]	(re: pictureflow)
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07:48:17	[Saint]	"Installing */206"
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07:50:08	JdGordon	files in the zip probab;y
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07:52:40	[Saint]	it'd probably be of more use if that was converted to a percentile.
07:52:49	[Saint]	which, shouldn't be hard to represent.
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08:50:16	silbo	hey
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08:59:26	silbo	I was just wondering which of them is more critical and essential: Codec Library and Optimization or Standalone playback core/library
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09:53:47	JdGordon	silbo: standalone playback is probably more interesting
09:54:20	silbo	JdGordon: ok
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10:02:34	silbo	JdGordon: So as I understand this playback is enrooted to the rockbox kernel
10:03:10	Zagor	no
10:03:21	Zagor	it's just very entangled with the application code
10:03:30	silbo	ok
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10:04:32	silbo	so the goal of the standalone project is to make a fully working standalone playback project
10:04:50	JdGordon	with as minimal an interface as possible
10:05:58	Zagor	I'd say the goal is rather to make rockbox use this library
10:06:12	Zagor	I guess it can be debated though
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10:07:15	Zagor	in any case, I'd say the library should not be a fork
10:10:03	silbo	ok
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10:18:20	silbo	And which functionality does it need to have included
10:18:57	silbo	like you give it a mp3 file and you say play() forward() backward() get_curr_time() and so on?
10:19:26	Zagor	it needs to include all rockbox playback features
10:19:40	silbo	ok understood
10:19:58	Zagor	we want the current code, just layered into a tidy library
10:20:43	Zagor	defining the library api is a big part of the task
10:21:00	silbo	ok, sound like a pretty cool project
10:21:04	silbo	sounds*
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10:38:13	silbo	Zagor: sorry, but I did not understand if one of the goals is that this library could be used by other projects
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10:39:34	JdGordon	silbo: well, that could be a goal, the bigger one (arguable of course) is to make debugging out playback more easy. right now its almost impossible
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10:39:52	JdGordon	getting the actual playback engine otside of the rest of rockbox gives us more options
10:39:53	silbo	i see
10:40:25	Zagor	yes, external use is just one of the options a library would provice.
10:41:21	JdGordon	I'm not sure where the break would be though.. at buffering or below it?
10:42:11	Zagor	the library needs to include the buffering
10:43:57	JdGordon	well hang on, why?
10:44:11	JdGordon	give the buffering a good API and it could be easily replaced also
10:45:08	Zagor	sure, if/when you have layered the buffering that can be done. but not before.
10:45:30	JdGordon	i thought buffering actually had a reasonable api now?
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10:47:49	Zagor	yes. I'm just not confident it can be replaced easily. no work or tests in that direction has been done afaik.
10:49:25	[Saint]	JhMikes work greatly simplified the buffering system iiuc
10:49:49	[Saint]	Not sure that means much in the respect of how easy it will be to achieve this, though.
10:50:55	Zagor	the rockbox library needs buffering code. until we can offer rockbox-compatible buffering code separately, the logical solution is to bundle it with the library
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10:51:19	Zagor	having test code or third-party apps implement it would be quite burdensome
10:51:36	B4gder	I agree that it seems logical to start off seeing them as one
10:53:02	gevaerts	There's also of course the possibility of someone working on buffering too. Not wanting to refactor it at the same time that someone else is extending/changing it makes sense
10:55:09	JdGordon	anyone have any idea how the API would look? that a good qualification task?
10:57:27	Zagor	it's probably a good qualifier. the library task requires rather deep knowledge of gritty rockbox internals. the api design would give an indication how much of it an applicant grasps.
10:58:18	Zagor	I have been sceptical about having it as a gsoc task at all, due to the intimate rockbox knowledge required
10:58:53	Zagor	but I'd be happy to be proven wrong
10:58:57	JdGordon	can it be broken down to smaller tasks? or is it really all or nothing?
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11:02:43	gevaerts	Can someone ban denki75?
11:02:54	Zagor	I'm not sure "layering" smaller code portions out of the application code is necessarily making the job easier. you'd have to define a new api for each new code segment.
11:05:44	*	B4gder thinks gevaerts should get banning superpowers in the forum... scorche?
11:06:20	*	JdGordon too while you're at it...
11:06:32	JdGordon	considering the timezones and me being online pretty much all day
11:06:44	B4gder	yes
11:07:58	B4gder	gevaerts: done
11:11:18	*	[Saint] decides to start chewing over the skin var code needed for the popups in the .wps and .sbs
11:11:32	[Saint]	and also the new .sbs conditional viewport panel.
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11:13:30	[Saint]	Hmmm...I also wonder if I have the coding chops required to kick %cs in the arse and add the missing screen(s) to it.
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11:14:04	[Saint]	quickscreen, <other?>,
11:16:46	*	JdGordon remembers thinking about that, cant remember if it was commited?
11:16:56	[Saint]	nup
11:17:26	[Saint]	Oh..yeah, that's right..you did do some work there no?
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11:18:15	[Saint]	Aha...right, yes, now I remember something too
11:18:28	JdGordon	i cant remember how far it got
11:18:31	[Saint]	%Ts 's timeout is borked.
11:18:40	JdGordon	I actually ihnk i asked about it and got no response
11:18:44	JdGordon	%Ts?
11:18:51	[Saint]	I was supposed to put that on the tracker but I forgot.
11:19:01	[Saint]	shit %Tl
11:19:12	[Saint]	rather
11:20:09	[Saint]	JdGordon: Nope...you did do something
11:20:16	[Saint]	FS #11925
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11:21:14	JdGordon	cool! :p
11:21:20	[Saint]	hehe
11:21:47	[Saint]	"here's one I prepared earlier"
11:25:25	JdGordon	that patch is mostly done, it just needs more calls to change screens which you should be able to do if oyu';re game :)
11:25:53	*	JdGordon goes back to trying to figure out why dyn screen size break android if it is disabled
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11:39:44	JdGordon	BUGGER.... my tree is crashing in the font cache code now...
11:39:53	JdGordon	this patch just doesnt want t get commited!
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11:55:25	silbo	hey guys, can anybody comment on my proposal http://enos.itcollege.ee/~skuusik/proposal
11:56:15	JdGordon	link no worky
11:56:31	silbo	aww
11:56:55	mshathlonxp	it does
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11:58:13	silbo	feel free to but me donw to misery xD
11:58:16	silbo	down*
11:58:45	[Saint]	link works here.
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12:02:30	JdGordon	is our open()/read()/lseek() posix compliant? can buffering even be compiled (forget about linked) outside of rockbox?
12:04:10	gevaerts	silbo: one quick comment for now: I'm not sure if splitting out the code, reworking it, and then update rockbox to work with the new library is a good way to do this (I'd try to do it more incrementally)
12:04:41	gevaerts	silbo: also, you know you can submit the proposal to the melange site and still update it later (until the deadline)?
12:05:17	silbo	yes, but all revisions will be there xD
12:05:48	silbo	and if the text is like crap then .....
12:06:09	gevaerts	Well, you're showing it to the same people now
12:06:30	silbo	I know xD
12:08:01	silbo	gevaerts: ok so I would build up the new library project class by class, that is what you mean ?
12:09:04	gevaerts	"class"?
12:09:28	JdGordon	my initial thought was fix the build script to build the playback code to a seperate .a and do just enough code to make it compile/link.. then once thats done clean up the API
12:13:14	silbo	hmm ok
12:16:02	kugel	JdGordon: they should be
12:17:01	mshathlonxp	how about updating estonian translation first? shouldn't take more than one day, presuming jokes that latvians are cracking about estonians aren't true :D
12:18:50	gevaerts	mshathlonxp: is that supposed to be a constructive comment?
12:19:19	mshathlonxp	forget about second half of it if you don't like it
12:21:53	silbo	what xD I am an estonian I could make the translation xD
12:23:04	JdGordon	kugel: ?
12:23:16	kugel	open/read/lseek
12:23:19	gevaerts	silbo: feel free to work on it (see http://translate.rockbox.org/, or do it the old fashioned way in the source), but don't feel obliged by mshathlonxp's comment
12:23:20	JdGordon	ah
12:23:48	silbo	gevaerts, JdGordon: I think I did not quite get what you were suggesting me to write for the task descrition, I updated it a little http://enos.itcollege.ee/~skuusik/proposal
12:23:55	kugel	the reason we don't use them directly from the library is the paths thingy
12:24:03	kugel	(.rockbox path)
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12:27:25	JdGordon	anyone have any idea what the heck would cause the messed up text in http://imagebin.org/145691 ?
12:27:48	JdGordon	my first guess is a buffer overrun but no crash?
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12:28:44	JdGordon	hmm, it looks like lines which scroll dont have this problem
12:29:11	JdGordon	annoyingly i dont see this in sdl, only android
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12:30:52	JdGordon	and then only if dynamic screen size is enabled... and i cant see anywhere in the diff which might cause this :/
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12:34:36	*	JdGordon is baffled
12:36:03	[Saint]	filesmstsaybac?
12:36:15	[Saint]	databasesayba?
12:36:16	[Saint]	weird.
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12:46:31	JdGordon	kugel: DEBUGF() isnt hooked up by default?
12:46:52	kugel	it is in DEBUG builds
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12:57:36	[Saint]	No idea.
12:57:40	[Saint]	Black screen hang?
12:57:56	[Saint]	like, not actually crashing, or an FC...but a black screen hang?
12:58:08	JdGordon	no, full on crashing
12:58:29	[Saint]	Hmmm, it happens to me as I describe.
12:58:42	[Saint]	I need to force close it.
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13:00:14	JdGordon	yeah, I'm almost willing to bet its because of the great java<->c lcd code initing in the wrong order
13:00:26	JdGordon	but i cant get the debugger going so me
13:01:42	JdGordon	meh*
13:03:07	JdGordon	ok, well lcdputs is sending the correct string, so the framebuffer is getting updated wrongly
13:03:11	*	JdGordon confused
13:03:13	JdGordon	someone help! :p
13:07:06	mc2739	scorche\|sh: or AlexP: please ban cenfdavuj
13:08:42	JdGordon	didnt he get banned once already?
13:13:45	mc2739	I don't think so - he is still online
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13:16:57	Zagor	banned
13:19:32	mc2739	thank you
13:24:26	n1s	are these accounts created by bots or real spammers?
13:25:11	B4gder	I think we have both kinds
13:25:28	JdGordon	aren't we lucky! :p
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13:38:05	JdGordon	WTF? seriously, what could cause such not-random garbage being displayed on the lcd when the sstring being sent to putsxy() is sane?
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13:46:01	n1s	bugs in putsxy
13:46:42	JdGordon	which noone has seen in 5 years?
13:47:21	n1s	maybe they like you more than other people? :)
13:47:39	JdGordon	and it apparently works fine with android with the dynamic screen patch enabled, the only difference being LCD_WIDTH/HEIGHT are #defined to a number when disabled
13:47:50	JdGordon	driving me insane!
13:51:47	kugel	JdGordon: perhaps compiler optimization
13:54:16	JdGordon	ok, so it looks like it is actually trying to draw garbage
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13:55:32	JdGordon	bidi_l2v() seems to be broken
13:57:30	JdGordon	AH! makes sense now./.. thats returning a non-static array
13:57:43	B4gder	!
13:58:32	JdGordon	the patch broke it
13:58:59	JdGordon	unsigned short utf16_buf[SCROLL_LINE_SIZE]; <- that isnt really related to scroll line size... how should I fix this?
13:59:17	JdGordon	or just malloc that in scroll_init() and pretend it is related?
13:59:54	JdGordon	malloc() on first use?
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14:04:34	JdGordon	\o/ fixed :)
14:06:56	dionoea	Hello. I had a small question about the dynamic screen size patch. Wouldn't it be more logical to first try using WPSes with a filename containing the screen size/depth and then fallback to the generic one than the other way around? That way you can provide customised versions for some common sizes and provide a fallback for other targets.
14:08:24	JdGordon	dionoea: well, doing it that way means theme zips cant be shared between targets as easily
14:08:54	JdGordon	i.e 320x240 android, sdl, real target can currently share the zip, with your suggestion they couldnt because the filenames in the config would be wrong
14:08:55	kugel	dionoea: that only works if the fallback is entirely text based
14:09:41	kugel	which doesn't make sense for 99% of the themes
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14:12:25	dionoea	hum ... ok. It still feels weird to test the sizeless version first :)
14:12:50	*	JdGordon intends to add the ability to change the lcd size at runtime next
14:13:00	TheSeven	DJeXeCute: why don't you just follow the instructions?
14:13:07	JdGordon	i.e portait <->landscape shenanigans :)
14:13:15	TheSeven	it's really, really dead simple
14:13:36	dionoea	btw, what happens if you load a backdrop that doesn't match the current screen size? will it just crop/padd? or does the core provide a scaling engine?
14:13:38	TheSeven	[07:01] <DJeXeCute> "No .rockbox Directory" "Installation Incomplete" << this means that you haven't followed the instructions to the end and haven't extracted a rockbox build yet
14:13:58	[Saint]	TheSeven: Um..no.
14:14:03	TheSeven	[06:59] <DJeXeCute> Is there something I could just drop in like the video's .rockbox folder? << that's a surefire way to break it even more
14:14:11	[Saint]	He did manage to get it to boot...so it must have dissappeared after.
14:14:23	TheSeven	just use the one for the ipod classic that's pointed to by the instructions?
14:14:38	[Saint]	eeeek, lag?
14:14:43	TheSeven	[07:05] <DJeXeCute> Crap how can i get it back to DFU to reformat it as a normal Ipod? << as always. connect to USB and hold menu+select for about 12 seconds
14:14:54	[Saint]	he did manage to get RB to boot, so...something happened to break it after the install.
14:15:24	[Saint]	TheSeven: ^
14:16:57	TheSeven	[14:14] <[Saint]> He did manage to get it to boot...so it must have dissappeared after. << yes, he booted it from the NOR flash (there's a compressed "recovery" rockbox in there since the transition to emcore)
14:17:17	TheSeven	he just needs to continue following the instructions step by step and not break out in the middle of them
14:17:40	TheSeven	[14:14] <[Saint]> eeeek, lag? << nope, just me answering to the backlog
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14:18:11	[Saint]	Oh, wow...shit. I didn't realise there was an RB image in there already.
14:18:53	[Saint]	if that's the case, why doesn't it just stay there...or get written to the correct location if another build isn't loaded?
14:19:36	[Saint]	"RB works, then seemingly vanishes" seems a bit weird (if you don't follow the instructions...apparently)
14:19:57	[Saint]	though, you can't really accomodate for not following instruction too much.
14:20:12	TheSeven	there's just the bare minimum on the flash, not a full rockbox build, that wouldn't fit
14:20:19	[Saint]	Ah.
14:20:23	TheSeven	so no codecs, plugins, fonts, themes, ...
14:20:28	TheSeven	just the builtin fallback stuff
14:20:37	TheSeven	it behaves as if you delete everything but rockbox.ipod
14:21:08	[Saint]	Right...well, I distinctly said "here's a link, answer the questions, do what it says"
14:21:11	[Saint]	I assumed he had.
14:21:12	TheSeven	and if explicitly moans about rockbox.ipod and .rockbox missing during boot
14:21:13	[Saint]	sorry.
14:21:34	TheSeven	http://www.freemyipod.org/wiki/EmCORE_Installation/iPodClassic/UMSboot
14:21:51	[Saint]	that's the one.
14:21:51	TheSeven	he apparently broke out after "Wait for Rockbox to boot (Complaints about the rockbox.ipod file being missing are normal at this point.) "
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14:23:59	[Saint]	I wonder what made him choose to ignore ~50% of the instruction.
14:24:15	[Saint]	Is there a misleading step in the installation one could interpret as being finished?
14:27:00	TheSeven	well, "Oooh, Rockbox is running, let's try playing around"
14:27:27	TheSeven	I'm wondering what's so hard to understand here: "Please follow the instructions closely, step by step. If any doubts arise, please ask for support before playing around. You could permanently damage your device!"
14:27:55	[Saint]	...nothing.
14:28:11	[Saint]	You can't accomodate for people chosing to ignore instruction.
14:29:32	[Saint]	maybe bold the "any" in "if any doubts arise" and the "permanently" in "permanently damage your device"
14:31:08	TheSeven	that whole thing is bold!
14:31:21	TheSeven	and "support" is linked to a #freemyipod-support webchat and NOT here
14:32:37	[Saint]	well...
14:32:40	*	[Saint] shrugs
14:33:45	[Saint]	I didn't suggest he try copy anything else to the disk as I'd assumed he'd actually gotten to the end of the instruction, it failed for whatever reason, and I didn't want to risk breaking things more.
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14:49:37	kugel	but it comes in asynchron, possibly after the first lcd operations
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17:27:04	[Saint]	Hmmm...could someone add "touchscreen" as "Player Type" in Flyspray please?
17:28:02	[Saint]	otherwise there's no real way to accurately define the player type for a touchscreen specific skin bug.
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18:19:23	kugel	did someone see my mail on the ml? it's not a lot of time left until the deadline
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18:24:09	kugel	yes
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18:25:37	n1s	assuming that the rules allow it and you feel equally strongly about both projects i think two separate applications is better
18:29:35	kugel	I think both are fun, interesting and can help rockbox a lot
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19:15:13	kugelp	it just came to my mind. we've talked about a tickless or dynamic tick system. that would be a nice gsoc project
19:17:10	gevaerts	I don't know
19:17:24	gevaerts	Would that really be that much work?
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19:18:05	gevaerts	hm, maybe it would be
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19:18:12	gevaerts	But do we really need it enough?
19:25:10	AlexP	kugelp: I don't see the problem in two applications
19:26:15	kugelp	gevaerts: it would be a win on all devices
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19:29:15	gevaerts	In genral the tick tasks are easy to deal with I suspect. The tricky bit would be current_tick
19:31:47	gevaerts	kugelp: about the other question, I'd say that while I don't believe that relocatable plugins are "completely pointless" as some people have said, I do agree that without memory management changes they're rather crippled. Maybe start with buffer management and work on the plugins if there's time left?
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20:16:22	DJeXeCute	Hey I rockboxed my Ipod Classic 80gig with emCORE and now it won't link up to any of my computers at all It shows the USB Picture on the ipod screen but no drive under my computer on windows xp 32x pro any ideas on how to either reset it to factory since hard reboot set it back into emCORE and it won't go into DFU with emCORE?
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20:44:22	TheSeven	DJeXeCute: it will go into DFU
20:44:32	TheSeven	you're once again not following the instructions correctly
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20:53:06	DJeXeCute	No matter how long I hold Select and Menu it does not
20:53:34	ChickeNES	Is there anyone on that I can discuss GSoC with?
20:53:48	DJeXeCute	No Matter how long I hold it it continualy does looping restarts
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21:01:10	AlexP	ChickeNES: It depends in what detail about what project :)
21:01:29	ChickeNES	I would like to do the Arm Emulator
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21:02:57	*	AlexP thinks who to prod about that :)
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21:06:00	saratoga	ChickeNES: i can talk for a little bit
21:06:24	ChickeNES	saratoga: ok
21:07:03	saratoga	basically we spend a lot of our time reverse engineering devices, and writing assembly code, so having an emulator would be useful for testing, reverse engineering, etc
21:08:32	ChickeNES	saratoga: how much documentation exists for each device?
21:08:55	saratoga	some have a lot of documentation, others have no documentation
21:09:07	saratoga	beyond the reverse engineered stuff in the source code
21:09:20	saratoga	do you have a rockbox player?
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21:09:53	DJeXeCute	Sorry I Got a bluescreen
21:11:20	ChickeNES	I've never used rockbox, but I have various iPods lying around (4th gen and Video)
21:11:47	AlexP	That's outrageous, get it installed :)
21:12:03	ChickeNES	I was thinking of trying it out this weekend.
21:12:37	ChickeNES	The emulator drew my attention as I have written emulators in the past
21:12:56	DJeXeCute	Don't put it on any ipod classics unless you really know what your doing I think I permanently bricked a 80gig ipod classic I just bought yestarday
21:13:16	AlexP	Unless you can follow all the instructions to the letter
21:13:50	saratoga	DJeXeCute: hopefully someone writing an emulator is a bit better with computers
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21:14:21	DJeXeCute	I did and I was going to use my xbox 360 vision cam to record a vid of how its not working but my computer wont pick it up microsoft wont provide drivers im begining to think the source of my problems is crappy windows xp
21:14:32	saratoga	ChickeNES: so you would be targeting an ipod?
21:15:10	saratoga	that could be challenging because theres no documentation for the CPUs used in the 4G and Video, although they have undergone an enormous amount of reverse engineering over the years
21:15:20	ChickeNES	I would be willing to buy another player or two if necessary
21:15:25	DJeXeCute	I'm gunna search for my windows 7 box
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21:16:13	saratoga	ChickeNES: you said you'd worked on another emulator?
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21:16:33	DJeXeCute	Got it im gunna install Windows 7 and see if itle work then
21:16:47	AlexP	DJeXeCute: We don't need a running commentary
21:17:47	saratoga	AlexP: can you unflag me as spam
21:17:55	AlexP	yep
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21:18:24	ChickeNES	saratoga: I've written a couple of different emulators
21:18:31	saratoga	can you talk about them
21:18:35	ChickeNES	sure
21:18:47	AlexP	saratoga: Done. I don't know why it keeps getting you
21:19:17	saratoga	theres no way we can improve that system to not flag existing users?
21:19:19	ChickeNES	I first wrote a NES emulator in C, with graphics and input support
21:19:40	ChickeNES	I've been in the process of rewriting it in C++
21:19:43	AlexP	saratoga: No idea, scorche's plaything
21:20:04	ChickeNES	I also used the same cpu core to write an Apple II emulator
21:20:33	saratoga	ah nice, so working with peripherals shouldn't be too hard for you
21:20:43	scorche	saratoga: nope - it is one of those magical "cloud" things that shouldnt need any configuration because it works perfectly for everyone
21:20:56	saratoga	is it at least flagging a lot of spam?
21:21:04	ChickeNES	And I've also written a partial Z80 emulator for Space Invaders
21:21:06	scorche	saratoga: however, between using it and not using it, it has caught a lot of spam and has proved its use to me
21:21:06	AlexP	228 messages so far
21:21:28	ChickeNES	and a partial MIPS emulator that is intended as the core for a N64 emulator
21:21:40	scorche	AlexP: well, that is how many it has flagged - i would be willing to be around 20-40 of those at least are valid
21:21:46	scorche	but still - worth it in my opinion
21:21:53	saratoga	ok
21:22:06	AlexP	scorche: Oh, I assumed that was non-unflagged messages
21:22:17	AlexP	I've unflagged probably 25 or so
21:22:28	saratoga	ChickeNES: theres already a lot of open source arm emulators, so you'd probably be able to start with an existing one
21:22:54	saratoga	theres also a half working emulator on our patch tracker that emulates a sandisk player with the same SOC as your ipods
21:23:11	saratoga	so you may want to look into existing work when writing your application
21:24:03	ChickeNES	saratoga: yeah, I'm going to check those out and see if they would be easy to build on
21:24:28	ChickeNES	otherwise, they'll at least be good reference material
21:24:31	saratoga	the one on our patch tracker is pretty cool, although i have my doubts about the correctness of its ARM emulation, but its neat to look at
21:25:40	saratoga	unrelated note, the AMSv2 SD issues seem vastly reduced if not fixed entirely, so maybe a point release in a week or two would be a good idea
21:26:06	AlexP	I can do it whenever, I'm just waiting for the all clear
21:26:24	AlexP	Have all the relevant patches been backported?
21:26:24	saratoga	is it just a matter of forking the current 3.8 branch and then doing builds?
21:26:30	saratoga	no not yet
21:26:35	AlexP	Just tag the 3.8 branch then build
21:26:37	AlexP	Essentially
21:26:49	AlexP	Change a few scripts for version numbers etc.
21:26:54	AlexP	Write release notes
21:27:01	saratoga	we probably want a couple days just to make sure something else didn't break
21:27:07	AlexP	OK
21:27:13	linuxstb	ChickeNES: Were any of these emulators you wrote released as open source?
21:27:56	linuxstb	(or released at all?)
21:28:14	ChickeNES	linuxstb: I plan on putting the C++ nes emulator on github soon, the C one is a bit messy as I wrote it when I first taught myself C
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21:33:01	bertrik	AlexP, saratoga, I think I fixed a lot of minor things in the AMSv2 sd driver and we might as well copy the entire driver over to the branch, but maybe we should wait a week or so to see if any problem pops up anyway
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21:33:17	AlexP	er, woops
21:33:21	AlexP	Sorry :)
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21:37:13	ChickeNES	linusstb: https://github.com/blanham/BNESplus
21:37:24	ChickeNES	linuxstb: https://github.com/blanham/BNESplus
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21:54:01	AlexP	pixelma: I remember you having an inputenx issue on cygwin, did you manage to sort it? http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,27615.msg179624.html#new
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22:02:34	sharperguy	Hey. Does anyone know if there's a workaround for the Clip+ bug where 16gb cards aren't always detected? I looked around on the wiki etc. but haven't seen anything obvious.
22:03:12	AlexP	sharperguy: What build are you on?
22:03:28	sharperguy	Hang on I'll just check.
22:03:48	sharperguy	3.7.1
22:03:55	funman	get the current build
22:03:56	AlexP	Could you try a current build?
22:03:57	sharperguy	I should've checked what the newest was actually.
22:04:11	AlexP	Not 3.8, but the one labelled current build
22:04:12	sharperguy	Can I just update using the rockbox installer?
22:04:15	AlexP	Yes
22:04:21	AlexP	But current build, not release :)
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22:07:04	pixelma	AlexP: no, I haven't. The problem is that the tex package that's usually provided (and still recommended) in our wiki is too old to include inputenx. I'm not sure how to go on from there (I had a quick look at the texlive installation but wasn't sure), bluebrother also wanted to look into it
22:07:37	AlexP	OK
22:08:36	sharperguy	Ok copying.
22:09:07	ChickeNES	saratoga: do you have a link to the emu in the patch tracker? I tried searching emulator and sandisk in the tracker but couldn't find it
22:10:11	pixelma	AlexP: the tetex packages are too old and not developed anymore
22:10:25	saratoga	ChickeNES: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6524
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22:11:59	ChickeNES	saratoga: ok, I'll take a look at that tonight
22:12:10	ChickeNES	What else do I need to do?
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22:14:40	sharperguy	Wow nice the new build seems to work no problem.
22:14:56	AlexP	Great :) We should have a 3.8.1 with it soon.
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22:17:36	sharperguy	Cool. Thanks.
22:18:54	Buschel	pixelma: I am currently checking this inputenx installation -> http://www.tex.ac.uk/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/oberdiek/inputenx.pdf
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22:36:31	Buschel	pixelma: works :)
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23:38:59	s1ashdot	Hello, I am having an issue where my Sansa Fuze v1 is randomly unmounting. This never occurred until I installed RB 3.8. I saw that a Mac user also reported it happening.
23:39:00	s1ashdot	I am using Ubuntu 10.0.4.2.
23:39:39	s1ashdot	http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,27475.0.html
23:39:39	s1ashdot	Any suggestions on what I could try? I suppose I could work around it about booting the original firmware.
23:41:21	gevaerts	Have you tried a current build yet?
23:41:40	s1ashdot	Isn't 3.8 the current build?
23:41:54	gevaerts	No. 3.8 is the latest release.
23:42:15	gevaerts	New current builds appear whenever we work on the code, several times per day
23:42:37	gevaerts	Rockbox Utility should be able to install a current build for you
23:42:42	s1ashdot	I simply erase the .rockbox folder and place the current build .rockbox folder in?
23:43:01	gevaerts	Yes, or just overwrite it, or use Rockbox Utility
23:43:12	s1ashdot	Alright, I'll try that. Thanks for your help.
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23:57:54	CIA-48	New commit by nls (r29662): Delete empty dir.

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