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| 01:13:24 | kugelp | B4gder: there already runs a script on the servers vto push to a git remote |
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| 01:16:27 | kugelp | you could add github as another remote and do git push −−all |
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| 01:22:04 | Unhelpful | kugelp: those are intended for moving the front of the buffer. |
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| 01:34:12 | kugelp | Unhelpful: towards the end? |
| 01:35:02 | Unhelpful | or away from - it can add or remove space @ the bottom of the buffer, depending on which you call. |
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| 06:50:48 | JoshuaChang | why some targets don't build pdbox plugin? |
| 06:55:40 | JdGordon | not enough ram? |
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| 07:00:56 | JoshuaChang | i don't think so, the sansa fuze v2 build it, but cowon d2/gigabeat s don't. |
| 07:15:31 | pixelma | pdbox is a half-finished project as far as I know, just not adapted for many different screen sizes, buttonmaps and whatever eles is needed |
| 07:18:01 | JoshuaChang | thanks for the explain |
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| 09:48:06 | wodz|work | Regarding rockbox git mirror on github - I would preffer the mirror that is not under jurisdiction of US law. PSGroove case showed that it is not a wise idea to public reverse engineered code on US servers |
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| 10:23:00 | sideral | Zagor: Seems like I accidentally removed the assignment of FS #11297 to funman with my last edit of the task. I wanted to correct this, but I can't: funman isn't in Flyspray's list of developers anymore −− which is probably the reason why the deassignment happened in the first place |
| 10:24:27 | S_a_i_n_t | wodz|work: Hmmm...that is an interesting point indeed. |
| 10:25:17 | S_a_i_n_t | wodz|work: Perhaps that should be mentioned on the dev mailing list? |
| 10:26:50 | Bagder | with a DVCS everyone would have the full code though so we could have it served all over with no problem |
| 10:27:16 | Bagder | so if a US based server would stop serving it, it wouldn't really be a problem |
| 10:27:32 | Bagder | as long as one or more have it checked out |
| 10:28:24 | S_a_i_n_t | I'm wondering if perhaps wodz|work doesn't mean to avoid the issue before it (potentially) happens. |
| 10:29:21 | Bagder | I honestly think it would be more of a good thing than a bad to us |
| 10:29:33 | Bagder | as it'd bring publicity |
| 10:29:40 | S_a_i_n_t | Heh ;) |
| 10:29:58 | Bagder | as long as no US citizen in our project would be targeted |
| 10:30:08 | S_a_i_n_t | then we'd be over-run by iPod Classic owners in a heartbeat :P |
| 10:30:23 | S_a_i_n_t | and yes, that would be a concern. |
| 10:31:15 | gevaerts | Seriously though, the *code* being on a US server and a developer being in the US aren't really related |
| 10:31:19 | * | n1s remembers the days of the early ipod ports |
| 10:31:21 | n1s | urg |
| 10:31:54 | gevaerts | They won't leave someone alone just because the git server he uses isn't in the US |
| 10:32:51 | Bagder | well, the previous encounters with legalese we've had have been all about the distribution |
| 10:33:19 | Bagder | for a while, the owner of rockbox.org was a US citizen and he got the letter |
| 10:33:45 | Bagder | when we fixed that issue, we got the letter in Sweden and it was much easier to dismiss |
| 10:34:01 | * | gevaerts nods |
| 10:36:07 | gevaerts | That doesn't have to be an issue for something that's essentially a mirror though |
| 10:36:17 | CIA-87 | New commit by sideral (r29827): Better version reporting for git-tracked repositories: Include the git ... |
| 10:36:27 | Bagder | right |
| 10:37:27 | Bagder | we're also a very old and established project, I consider the risk of someone stepping forward waving their hands against us now to be very slim |
| 10:38:32 | S_a_i_n_t | Perhaps we might gain a lot more attention when the Classic port ultimately takes off, as it will I'm sure. |
| 10:38:35 | gevaerts | s/we're also a/we also tend to work on/ and s/established project/obsolete devices/ :) |
| 10:38:43 | Bagder | true |
| 10:38:52 | S_a_i_n_t | well, not entirely. |
| 10:39:06 | S_a_i_n_t | There's still at least one "brand new" target. |
| 10:39:18 | S_a_i_n_t | do they still sell the clip+ new? |
| 10:39:38 | sideral | Yes, but it seems to be on sale now |
| 10:39:43 | n1s | sandisk are probably not going to sue us |
| 10:39:53 | gevaerts | There's one real difference between us and things like psgroove though: we don't do anything with DRM, and we don't really help other people doing it |
| 10:40:12 | CIA-87 | r29827 build result: All green |
| 10:40:30 | S_a_i_n_t | gevaerts: Well, that it true. |
| 10:40:30 | n1s | gevaerts: in some cases we even knowingly break drm so it will never work on that device again :) |
| 10:41:02 | S_a_i_n_t | I do wish that PSgrove wasn't associated with ROckbox at all...that's a pain in the ass. |
| 10:41:16 | S_a_i_n_t | It's a good thing psgroove is irrelevant now pretty much. |
| 10:42:14 | gevaerts | I mean, it's all very nice to say "This is for homebrew, not for piracy", and it may even be true for the people who did the original work, but if happens to allow piracy as a side effect, people will notice anyway |
| 10:42:32 | * | S_a_i_n_t nods. |
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| 10:45:43 | [Saint] | I couldn't give a rats ass either way about what who was using psgroove for, but the thing I hated was when it broke things and the "support" flowed over here. |
| 10:46:13 | [Saint] | all the "rockbox broke my <DAP>"...and then having to explain "no, psgroove did, go bug them" |
| 10:46:37 | n1s | [Saint]: no, *you* broke your dap! |
| 10:47:02 | [Saint] | Well, yes, good point ;) |
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| 11:14:56 | kugel | Bagder: we already push to our git mirror on svn commit commit (an intermediate git repo does the svn rebase), so a github mirror could just be added to the repo and then run git push −−all |
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| 11:16:30 | kugel | Unhelpful: I understand that buflib_buffer_out() moves *all |
| 11:16:34 | Bagder | hm that has to be done using ssh |
| 11:17:11 | Unhelpful | kugel: iirc it cuts some data "out" of the buffer. at the lower-address end. |
| 11:17:25 | kugel | *all* allocations towards the end (e.g. |xxx|−−−−−−−−-|t| becomes |−−−−−−−−|xxx|t| [x - allocations, t - handle table]), and the buffer front is returned? |
| 11:21:11 | kugel | it also moves the buffer front, so that new allocations only happen with that |xxx|t| part |
| 11:22:05 | kugel | and buflib_buffer_in() basically undoes this |
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| 11:27:44 | kugel | Bagder: is that a bad thing? |
| 11:28:15 | Bagder | well, it will basically require a key without password for the account that does the automated pushing |
| 11:29:21 | Bagder | just a bit of a nuisance I guess |
| 11:30:35 | kugel | would that be safer within git-shell? |
| 11:31:38 | amiconn | Bagder: You'd seriously want to switch to git? |
| 11:32:00 | Bagder | yes, given the choice between svn and git I'll pick git any day |
| 11:32:29 | amiconn | meh |
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| 11:48:30 | kugel | Bagder: will you look into the github mirror? |
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| 11:54:23 | Bagder | I'll see what I can do |
| 11:54:37 | kugel | nice :) |
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| 11:59:57 | kugel | Bagder: what would also be nice is if we can get the svn branches into the mirror(s), IIRC sideral showed a way how to do it without breaking all clones |
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| 12:02:37 | kugel | it worked on my machine |
| 12:04:48 | kugel | btw, I'm not a strong proponent of a git switch, I'm largely fine with git-svn and the revision number thing is indeed a bummer. But I'm still happy if it should happen |
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| 12:22:49 | kugel | my current buflib work is now at kugel-/buflib/commits/master">https://github.com/kugel-/buflib/commits/master |
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| 12:25:54 | kugel | [Saint]: either my ears are just bad or meier crossfeed doesn't actually have an effect |
| 12:26:25 | [Saint] | It is a *very* subtle effect. |
| 12:27:10 | [Saint] | Some tracks you probably won't notice it on, it's good on tracks with a lot of quiet periods and a lot of left/right splits. |
| 12:27:38 | [Saint] | like, some classical music that's been newly mastered etc. |
| 12:30:35 | kugel | I'm not into classical music :) |
| 12:43:39 | kugel | [Saint]: the list item spacing takes dpi into account, so it should be about the same across devices |
| 12:44:19 | kugel | dpi*4/11 |
| 12:44:34 | rasher | kugel: dpi isn't everything |
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| 12:45:06 | rasher | although I guess our devices are similar enough |
| 12:45:28 | rasher | ignore that |
| 12:45:44 | kugel | ok :) |
| 12:47:18 | rasher | I still think it would make sense to be theme configurable because different spacing will be appropriate depending on which font is used |
| 12:49:37 | rasher | and on a general note, it controls how the interface looks, so it makes sense, even if It's not for aesthetic reasons primarily |
| 12:50:02 | kugel | rasher: I don't see that. the line spacing doesn't apply to the wps btw |
| 12:50:41 | rasher | what donc't you seek? |
| 12:51:03 | kugel | that the font size is relevant |
| 12:51:12 | kugel | or the font generally |
| 12:51:12 | [Saint] | kugel: it's *way* too much spacing on 240x320 |
| 12:51:16 | [Saint] | it looks terrible |
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| 12:51:48 | kugel | [Saint]: I'd be interested in how large the lines are, in centimeter |
| 12:52:15 | kugel | the resolution isn't really relevant |
| 12:52:18 | [Saint] | Most people would rather handle the list spacing through the fonts I thought |
| 12:53:30 | [Saint] | and, it's a bit hard for me to tell how high the lines are, it's been a while since I used it, I remember with a "sane" font size, the main menu didn't even fit on the screen. |
| 12:53:57 | kugel | that doesn't surprise me |
| 12:54:00 | [Saint] | It was bad enough for me to uninstall it immediately, really. |
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| 12:54:05 | rasher | I don't see why that matters |
| 12:54:48 | [Saint] | rasher: because you could look at it and see that it easily could fit on the screen, and there's a whole lot of "excess" space. |
| 12:54:52 | rasher | scrolling is cheap on a touchscreen |
| 12:54:59 | kugel | [Saint]: it would be nice if you could measure it for me |
| 12:55:16 | rasher | It's not excess - it means you can hit it! |
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| 12:55:34 | rasher | It's there for very good reason |
| 12:55:36 | [Saint] | I can hit it fine with a 22pt font |
| 12:55:44 | [Saint] | pixelma: uses 19 iirc |
| 12:56:01 | [Saint] | all this excess space isn't *needed* |
| 12:56:35 | [Saint] | that's why I'd like to see it configurable...I don't want the space to be less. I want to be able to switch it *off* if it goes in svn. |
| 12:56:40 | rasher | maybe the calculation should take the physical font size into account |
| 12:56:48 | [Saint] | probably, yes. |
| 12:58:06 | kugel | rasher: that's what it does, hence dpi |
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| 13:00:25 | [Saint] | Another reason it should be configurable is that a lot of themes rely on use of fonts with added ascent/descent, or split off the title from the lists, etc. |
| 13:00:46 | [Saint] | there's a whole bunch of stuff this could break with themes if it was forced. |
| 13:02:12 | [Saint] | a theme author says "hmm, right, so I'm using a 20pt font, I want three lines of text in this vp in the .sbs, so it's 60px high viewport" |
| 13:02:21 | [Saint] | ...what does he do with this patch applied? |
| 13:02:50 | kugel | the spacing should be 43px on your device, considering that your display is a bit denser that the generalized dpi android provides (120 vs 143), it should be even smaller on your device than on mine |
| 13:03:00 | kugel | if that's the case I can't understand it's too large for you |
| 13:03:17 | [Saint] | you can't see how 43px is too large? |
| 13:03:23 | [Saint] | 43px is insane! |
| 13:03:30 | [Saint] | I use a 22pt font... |
| 13:03:51 | [Saint] | and that's very readable, and very usuable for me. |
| 13:03:58 | kugel | I use a 25px, with 58px item spacing and it's perfectly usable |
| 13:04:22 | [Saint] | Honestly, I *really* think this needs to be configurable. |
| 13:04:40 | [Saint] | if it can't be, then it should stay out until it can be. |
| 13:06:20 | [Saint] | also...if you really think about it, at 43px each list wil show like....what? 6 items max? |
| 13:06:22 | kugel | the font size makes the items bigger if needed, so ascent/descent is not an argument |
| 13:06:37 | kugel | 6 + the title |
| 13:06:46 | kugel | one more on my screen |
| 13:06:54 | [Saint] | assuming you're using the default viewport. |
| 13:07:30 | kugel | do you also hate android for having item spacing so much? |
| 13:07:43 | kugel | it should be comparable, perhaps a bit less spacing in rockbox |
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| 13:08:22 | [Saint] | it's quite a bit less in Android than it is with the patch applied in RaaA |
| 13:08:32 | kugel | rasher: I guess the problem with the scrolling main menu is mainly that the scrollbar is so damn ugly :) |
| 13:09:07 | kugel | [Saint]: I would welcome if you measure it so I can improve it |
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| 13:09:36 | [Saint] | kugel: I'd welcome you making it congigurable too :) |
| 13:09:44 | [Saint] | *configurable |
| 13:10:19 | kugel | no OS has an setting for this. if we need one we're doing it wrong |
| 13:10:20 | [Saint] | this is *not* something that should be forced, from a themeing perspective. |
| 13:10:41 | [Saint] | a themer should be able to do what he wants with the lists. |
| 13:10:47 | [Saint] | including turning this shit off. |
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| 13:12:17 | [Saint] | This doesn't take custom themes into consideration at all. |
| 13:12:46 | [Saint] | and, Rb apparently prides itself on it's UI customization. |
| 13:12:48 | sideral | kugel, Bagder: Yes, I found a noninvasive way of patching the existing Rockbox git config to seamlessly track all branches. Here's what I changed in my .git/config: http://pastebin.com/z2yW5nXf |
| 13:12:48 | sideral | It would be great if the official Rockbox git mirror would have a similar change applied so that I could fetch the branches from it rather than from the SVN server |
| 13:14:15 | sideral | Depending on how the git mirror is operated, this might be all that is required. For example, if the mirror simply is triggered to do a "git svn fetch" each time there's been an svn commit |
| 13:14:25 | [Saint] | I personally think the "right" way to handle this is to have more ability to customize the lists. |
| 13:14:48 | [Saint] | an additional VP param for list height. |
| 13:15:30 | * | [Saint] pokes JdGordon so he can look at this later, remember when we spoke about that? ^ |
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| 13:33:21 | Peddy | is there a way to achieve fullscreen boot logos? |
| 13:35:37 | Torne | what do you mean by that? the rockbox boot logo is fullscreen :) |
| 13:37:16 | kugel | it isn't :) it has an offset which you need to fix up if replace the image |
| 13:37:33 | kugel | but that, and a sufficiently large image does it |
| 13:37:42 | kugel | Peddy: you need to compile from source for this |
| 13:37:43 | Torne | oh? Heh. |
| 13:37:44 | amiconn | Imo list item spacing in its current form doesn't make much sense |
| 13:38:21 | Peddy | kugel, I'm already compiling from SVN. Are you saying that if I just replace the bootlogo image with a bigger one, it'll work? |
| 13:38:24 | amiconn | I rather think line spacing should be configurable independent of font size, or perhaps have an additional spacing (in pixels) |
| 13:38:40 | amiconn | This would then apply to *all* text, not just lists |
| 13:39:00 | kugel | no, not all text |
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| 13:39:21 | Peddy | Torne, it takes up about a quarter of my fuze screen (at the top), the rest is black with some version text at the bottom |
| 13:39:42 | kugel | Peddy: you need to find where the offset is generated (it's like 8px or so) and remove that as well |
| 13:40:02 | kugel | the black part above the image isn't part of it |
| 13:40:06 | amiconn | Why not? |
| 13:40:22 | Peddy | kugel, I'm okay with 8 pixels of version text - so as long as I replace the image with a full-resolution one (minus 8 pixels) it should work? |
| 13:40:53 | [Saint] | amiconn: it doesn't make much sense out of the context of the lists |
| 13:40:57 | kugel | I don't know the exact offset. the offset is at the top. the version text is at the bottom and will be shown regardless of the image |
| 13:41:14 | [Saint] | since the other screens can be configured with the same effect with viewport placement |
| 13:41:26 | Torne | amiconn: isn't the point to make sure things are big enough to hit with your finger |
| 13:41:36 | [Saint] | the liasts can't, but I do agree with your other points. |
| 13:41:36 | Torne | amiconn: and thus it's irrelevant for things that aren't touch targets |
| 13:41:47 | pamaury | Peddy: won't the logo look horribly streched ? |
| 13:41:52 | kugel | amiconn: what do you mean by "configurable independant of the font size" and "additional space in pixels"? my current patch is independant of the font size and adds empty space |
| 13:42:09 | Peddy | pamaury, no, I'll be using a custom one (some picture I made) |
| 13:42:16 | [Saint] | I agree that there should be an *optional* configurable param for list hight though. |
| 13:42:22 | [Saint] | *height |
| 13:42:38 | [Saint] | but I think this should be handled by the UI viewport vp declaration |
| 13:43:00 | [Saint] | not by some <add X> non-configurable "always on" setting :/ |
| 13:43:02 | Peddy | kugel, to clarify, I can just modify the appropriate bootlogo in apps/bitmaps/natives with a higher-resolution one and it should work? |
| 13:43:14 | kugel | yes |
| 13:43:20 | kugel | if you ignore the offset |
| 13:43:40 | Peddy | okay, thanks. the background of the new fullscreen logo will be black so it won't be apparent |
| 13:43:40 | kugel | it needs to be full-width IIRC but the height isn't important |
| 13:44:03 | kugel | I'm not even sure about full-width |
| 13:44:18 | [Saint] | no, it justifies left if it's not full width |
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| 13:45:38 | amiconn | kugel: I mean that you can configure an additional line spacing (in pixels) for the user font (several when using multifont), which will then be used for all text output using that font |
| 13:46:17 | amiconn | This value should be part of the theme/ theme settings, nothing that's hardcoded in the core |
| 13:46:31 | [Saint] | that i agree with |
| 13:46:40 | [Saint] | but not for all text |
| 13:46:46 | [Saint] | just the lists |
| 13:47:41 | [Saint] | everything but the lists is configurable enough to not need it. |
| 13:47:58 | kugel | amiconn: I want a default that works on most if not all devices, this cannot work with fixed pixels |
| 13:48:08 | [Saint] | the lists are our "themeing letdown" |
| 13:49:04 | [Saint] | kugel: sweet....so have it default off, or a different default per screen size. fixed. |
| 13:49:28 | kugel | hardly "fixed" |
| 13:49:58 | [Saint] | better thanyour "forced, one size fits all" imo |
| 13:50:15 | kugel | because it's not working properly yet |
| 13:50:46 | [Saint] | the way to do this is via themes, not the core. |
| 13:51:05 | [Saint] | this really hurts custom themes doing it your way. |
| 13:51:24 | kugel | amiconn: with your setting the item height is still font size dependant isn't it? |
| 13:52:47 | [Saint] | I wouldn't think so...why should it be other than not allowing a minimum size lesser than the currently loaded font. |
| 13:54:23 | [Saint] | An additional viewport parameter seems the ideal way to do this IMO, this isn't something to be forced by the core. |
| 13:55:04 | [Saint] | if it's done with a vp param, then you could have multiple different list heights, allowing different effects. |
| 13:55:14 | kugel | the line height isn't part of the internal viewport struct |
| 13:55:25 | [Saint] | no, it isn't, presently. |
| 13:55:30 | [Saint] | this could be changed. |
| 13:55:39 | [Saint] | JdGordon and I talked about this ages ago. |
| 13:55:54 | [Saint] | I believe this is the "DoItRight" version of this idea. |
| 13:56:07 | kugel | viewports don't currently know the "line concept", and it's good that way |
| 13:56:32 | [Saint] | I couldn't be more passionate about believing this a: needs to be configurable, and b: should be handled by the theme, preferably a vp param |
| 13:56:40 | kugel | hm, no, that's not entirely true, the line selector colors are part of the viewport struct |
| 13:57:01 | kugel | I noticed that |
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| 14:05:52 | amiconn | kugel: Viewports *do* know the line concept - otherwise they could never display more than one line of text |
| 14:05:59 | linuxstb | kugel: Why shouldn't the line concept be part of the viewport? Where else could it be stored? |
| 14:06:03 | amiconn | Atm it's just implicitly defined by the font height |
| 14:06:52 | kugel | amiconn: what? they are defined by a rect, not n lines |
| 14:09:49 | kugel | linuxstb: I guess if the line selector color is in there the minimum line height can be as well |
| 14:11:10 | amiconn | I'm not talking about how they're defined. Text output happens in viewports, and text output has a line conecpt |
| 14:12:03 | linuxstb | kugel: I see it this way: the font is stored in the viewport struct, so so should the line height. |
| 14:13:21 | kugel | you're probably right |
| 14:14:05 | kugel | that could simplify my patch |
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| 14:21:32 | Peddy | thanks for your help kugel, I now have pretty fullscreen boot logos. Night! |
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| 14:21:50 | kugel | you're welcome |
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| 15:33:49 | kugel | but the skin buffer seems replaceable with a static buffer |
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| 16:11:38 | nerdy_kid | I cant get my sansa e260v2 into either recovery or manufacture mode |
| 16:12:21 | gevaerts | recovery and manufacturer mode are modes for the v1 |
| 16:12:53 | nerdy_kid | how do I get access to the system partition with the v2? |
| 16:13:07 | nerdy_kid | I need to fix a screwed up boot loader |
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| 16:13:36 | gevaerts | http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaAMSUnbrick |
| 16:16:12 | nerdy_kid | gevaerts: I've tried that, rockbox just starts as normal |
| 16:16:24 | nerdy_kid | ive tried it like half a dozen times at that |
| 16:17:56 | gevaerts | All I know is that that's the procedure |
| 16:18:28 | gevaerts | If it doesn't work, you're likely doing something wrong, but I've never done it myself so I can't tell you more |
| 16:18:59 | nerdy_kid | dang, I didn't have to go through this to patch the bootloader in the first place, but I cant remember how I did it. |
| 16:19:27 | linuxstb | I didn't think you did patch the bootloader - I thought the AMS install was to patch the main firmware? |
| 16:19:52 | linuxstb | Can you start the Sansa firmware? |
| 16:20:31 | nerdy_kid | yes, I can start the sansa firmware |
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| 16:22:02 | gevaerts | What exactly is the problem you're trying to solve? |
| 16:22:59 | nerdy_kid | when I connected the player to my pc, each time it would crash and show *PANIC* SD Xfer read err:0x8 Disk0 |
| 16:23:09 | nerdy_kid | that happened with both Windows and Ubuntu |
| 16:23:52 | nerdy_kid | I used the sansa firmware to format the player, but it didn't help. |
| 16:24:23 | gevaerts | Which rockbox version is this? |
| 16:24:34 | nerdy_kid | it now seems to have decided to work to the point that I can read the device, but I am concerned that I cant get into recovery mode, I think I might have patched the wrong firmware or something |
| 16:24:38 | nerdy_kid | 3.8.1 |
| 16:24:46 | nerdy_kid | I tried 3.8 with the same result |
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| 16:25:16 | kugel | cuesheet handling is also tricky (w.r.t. to buflib) |
| 16:25:24 | gevaerts | Did rockbox ever work on it? |
| 16:26:06 | nerdy_kid | I've used it for months, and the only trouble I've had is that the music partition got corrupted several times −− I had to use windows to do a fsck \F |
| 16:26:35 | nerdy_kid | yes, I've used rockbox for months with no issues except the above |
| 16:27:50 | * | gevaerts doesn't know then |
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| 16:35:18 | Torne | I think you can only get into the recovery mode if the sansa firmware is broken... |
| 16:35:58 | Torne | (but i could easily be wrong) |
| 16:37:00 | kugel | gevaerts: did you see that I put up a git repo on github? |
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| 16:55:32 | nerdy_kid | ok great, I fixed it. |
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| 18:50:09 | * | bluebrother really likes to have _no_ additional spacing in the lists on Android |
| 18:50:16 | kugel | gevaerts: the repo also contains my analysis about current buffer_alloc() calls |
| 18:50:40 | kugel | bluebrother: huge font? |
| 18:51:01 | bluebrother | kugel: no, default font. I still like it that way. |
| 18:51:23 | kugel | it's nearly uncontrollable for me |
| 18:51:28 | bluebrother | you need to be a bit more careful when selecting but it works. And I like it that way since it allows a lot of items on the screen |
| 18:51:35 | kugel | have you actually used that list spacing patch? |
| 18:51:55 | bluebrother | I have used an apk some time ago that seems to have had that. The spacing was ... huge. |
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| 18:58:24 | [Saint] | yay! I'm glad I'm not the only one. |
| 18:58:24 | [Saint] | the spacing is just too much...but, IMO *any* is too much. |
| 18:58:43 | [Saint] | However, I don't want to get into this again ;) We'll see what JdGordon has to say about making line height in the UI viewport/lists configurable. |
| 18:59:01 | [Saint] | (the "propper" fix IMO) |
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| 19:11:10 | gevaerts | kugel: I saw, yes. I haven't looked closely yet |
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| 19:33:45 | [Saint] | bluebrother: I noticed that there's a couple (or a few?) different versions of the "big rockbox" logo...can you explain why? Are you even aware of it? |
| 19:34:14 | [Saint] | I noticed sometimes the "b" in box is behind the "k" from Rock, and sometimes vice versa |
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| 19:36:35 | [Saint] | website logo Vs. bootloader logo for example |
| 19:37:13 | [Saint] | actually...some of the bootloader logos have the k in front, some behind as well. |
| 19:39:25 | [Saint] | so, perhaps when you add the source image in to svn, perhaps you could look at batch converting some bootloader splash logos also so we have some consistency? |
| 19:40:18 | bluebrother | [Saint]: I don't know but it _might_ be related to some using the svg version as start, others the one on the website (which show exactly this difference) |
| 19:40:57 | bluebrother | the problem with the svg logo is that it doesn't contain the grey texture on the "box" text |
| 19:41:23 | bluebrother | I guess nobody noticed this difference when the svg was introduced |
| 19:41:50 | [Saint] | I noticed it the other day when I was "sprucing the logo up" |
| 19:43:39 | bluebrother | so my proposal would be to make the svg logo the "original" logo and replace all bitmap versions with that (or a bitmapped version of the svg that is ;-) |
| 19:44:47 | [Saint] | Yep, I'm cool with that. |
| 19:44:55 | [Saint] | I'd just like them to be consistent. |
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| 19:46:18 | bluebrother | yep. I guess I should commit the all-logo-svgs-in-one-place patch the next days. Discussing how to handle that is on the DevCon discussion list. |
| 19:46:41 | bluebrother | since (afaics) the real original bitmap logo is the png in the manual folder which is (at least for me) broken |
| 19:46:42 | [Saint] | Ah, right. |
| 19:46:58 | bluebrother | hence my vote for dropping the png and going for the svg |
| 19:48:23 | [Saint] | I just thought the bootsplash logo shouldn't differ from the website logo |
| 19:48:47 | [Saint] | I was kinds surprised when I found out it did, makes me wonder why the wheel was reinvented. |
| 19:48:52 | [Saint] | *kinda |
| 19:49:45 | [Saint] | (and the "box" looks better behind the "Rock" IMO anyways ;) |
| 19:49:49 | [Saint] | ) |
| 19:51:58 | * | bluebrother just found a 3rd variant: "box" in front of the "Rock" but with the grey texture |
| 19:52:42 | bluebrother | hmm, we really have too much variants of the same logo around |
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| 20:49:25 | pixelma | I drew the SVG from the png used in the manuals before which has the box in front of the k, didn't notice it was another version |
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| 22:12:26 | saratoga | maybe its time to update the AMSv2 bootloaders: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,27926.0.html |
| 22:12:41 | saratoga | current SVN worked on that player, but not last summers release (prior to the recent SD fixes) |
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| 22:50:12 | sideral | I'd like to commit FS #11931 (Do a short rewind when playback is paused), which generalizes the existing rewind-on-headphone-unplug feature to allow a short rewind in all instances of pause and make fade in/out more consistent. Any concerns or encouragements? |
| 22:53:24 | Llorean | sideral: If I understand the description correctly - it makes all instances of pause follow a single setting of how far to rewind when unpaused, and makes all instances of pause respect the fade on stop/pause option, and that's it? |
| 22:55:29 | sideral | right. one clarification though: the rewind occurs on pause, not on unpause |
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| 22:56:47 | Llorean | sideral: Ah. I think it might be ideal to separate the bug-fixing from the new feature, but overall it sounds pretty good. |
| 22:58:31 | sideral | Llorean: Yeah, I could make it 2 commits, but I guess that's not worth the trouble |
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| 23:02:57 | pamaury | sideral: depends, if possible 2 commits are better but if it's too artificial I guess it's not worth it |
| 23:03:29 | pamaury | (although I have no opinion on the commit itself) |
| 23:04:00 | pamaury | sideral: (completely unrelated) I'm rewriting the AMSv2 usb driver to use PIO mode, we'll see if it's more stable |
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| 23:04:46 | sideral | pamaury: I stand by my word that you'll be my hero when AMSv2 officially supports Rockbox USB :) |
| 23:05:08 | sideral | Let me check how difficult it would be to divide the patch into 2 commits... |
| 23:06:43 | pamaury | Actually, I had a new idea about corruption although that seems crazy: the usb controller is a dma master and has configurable burst length. If the buffer size is not a multiple of the burst size and the controller is badly designed, it could write past the buffer |
| 23:08:04 | sideral | that would match the failure I observed (and we discussed) recently, although I wasn't sure in the end whether I just forgot to set the buffer size IIRC |
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| 23:10:32 | sideral | pamaury: BTW, I have verified that setting (1 << DEPTSIZ0_pkcnt_bitp) is not necessary to receive setup packets on EP0, but not setting it didn't fix my problem either |
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| 23:11:36 | pamaury | which is to be expected since corruption doesn't arise with control transfers |
| 23:12:01 | sideral | perhaps the buffer size in DOEPTSIZ is not in bytes but in max bursts? |
| 23:12:22 | pamaury | no, the code I have proves it |
| 23:12:51 | pamaury | (and the few documents I have too) |
| 23:13:07 | pamaury | where did you say the corruption took place ? |
| 23:15:13 | sideral | It was in the ep0_state variable, which is allocated directly behind the setup-packet buffer |
| 23:15:54 | pamaury | setup-packet doesn't really match, it's 8 bytes and aligned |
| 23:16:27 | pamaury | anyway, that's just a theory |
| 23:18:28 | sideral | but I saw the "ignore spurious setup (xfersize=X)" warning. Doesn't that indicate that there was an unexpected payload? |
| 23:19:40 | pamaury | hum true, but when the dma points to the setup packet, the maximum xfer size is set to 8 |
| 23:20:53 | sideral | that's why I suspected an error in the logic there |
| 23:21:39 | pamaury | or the dma allows itself to transfer up to the maximum packet size but that would be weird |
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| 23:22:43 | sideral | Llorean, pamaury: turns out the pause-rewind patch is easy to split. I'll run my array of compilation tests to make sure |
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| 23:24:13 | Llorean | Cool, I think it would be best. |
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| 23:31:17 | sideral | pamaury: I tried enlarging the buffer allocated for setup packets to the size used for other transfers, but that did not fix the problem either |
| 23:32:25 | pamaury | fuck it, on one side the driver assume the register gives a byte count and the other side the doc I have says it a word count :( |
| 23:32:35 | pamaury | which one should I trust ?! |
| 23:32:56 | B4gder | roll a dice! =) |
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| 23:34:59 | pamaury | apparently the doc is the right, the linux patch gives a 2 vs 1 balance |
| 23:35:14 | pamaury | not sure that's much better than a dice though ;) |
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| 23:40:10 | sideral | Sound like you nailed it |
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