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| 00:39:44 | Zagor | AlexP, Bagder and anyone else wanting to help with rockbuild testing: http://rockbuild.haxx.se/test/ |
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| 00:49:54 | Zagor | B4gder: you can run it on your home box if you like. it uses a different port. |
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| 00:52:37 | pixelma | hmm... should have looked at the link first |
| 00:52:55 | Zagor | pixelma: :-) |
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| 00:54:13 | Zagor | B4gder: reload the page. I forgot some steps :-) |
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| 03:06:20 | [Saint] | Hmmm... bluebroth3r, could bluebrother-bot also link to the diff file on each commit? ie. if the FS# either isn't present, or not included in the commit message? |
| 03:06:26 | [Saint] | (just an idea I had...) |
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| 09:51:24 | bluebroth3r | [Saint]: I think adding another link would be too much |
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| 10:00:53 | [Saint] | bluebroth3r: I was talking about things like "<CIA-58> New commit by gevaerts (r29950): Problem hopefully solved" for instance, that show a revision number but don't mention (or don't have) an FS# |
| 10:01:38 | [Saint] | I think it'd be nice if to review that commit I could just click a link in IRC, as opposed to having to fish out the diff manually. |
| 10:02:01 | [Saint] | (again, just a thought...no biggie) |
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| 10:08:05 | bluebroth3r | [Saint]: hmm, that could be considered. Discussing on how to proceed with such notifications might be a good idea. |
| 10:09:04 | [Saint] | I notice you're on your phone now (or, I assume you are), so...at a slightly more sane time, sure ;) |
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| 11:19:08 | gevaerts | [Saint]: sorry, I should have used a clearer message. That was to the build system |
| 11:19:37 | [Saint] | gevaerts: Oh...nothing against you personally, it was just an example I used. |
| 11:19:58 | [Saint] | Some commits for instance have no FS# task, so it'd be good to be able to link to the diff on the svn repo |
| 11:21:20 | AlexP | We can make CIA do that I imagine |
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| 11:47:04 | b1uebrother | kugel: trying that portrait vs landscape thing for Android |
| 11:47:35 | * | [Saint] wonders what "thing" this is... |
| 11:48:03 | b1uebrother | [Saint]: adjust AndroidManifest.xml to allow building a landscape version of Rockbox for Android |
| 11:48:31 | [Saint] | Oh, right...yeah. I knew that much, I was too hopeful about what I thought you meant ;) |
| 11:49:17 | [Saint] | the cool thing about Android, is, if you have a DPAD it's smart enough to remap the buttons if you swap the orientation in the manifest.xml |
| 11:50:21 | [Saint] | I tried having two RaaA builds on my phone, and using an app called Tasker to kill/run them based on screen orientation...didn't work out too well ;) |
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| 12:01:02 | b1uebrother | [Saint]: in a short time you'll need to port your theme to landscape :) |
| 12:02:24 | [Saint] | ....any particular reason? |
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| 12:03:13 | [Saint] | Is there orientation sensitive switching going in? Or is it just decided it should be landscape? |
| 12:03:44 | [Saint] | (the latter I wouldn't be too keen on, the former..."meh".) |
| 12:04:48 | b1uebrother | no, just a configure "option" |
| 12:05:03 | b1uebrother | (it's not a real option, it's decided based on LCD width and height) |
| 12:07:07 | [Saint] | Ah. |
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| 12:15:34 | scorche | rasher: I have upgraded a whole host of packages on my server |
| 12:16:20 | scorche | rasher: php in particular changed a ton of defaults, but everything seems to look to work for now - let me know if something needs to be changed if I dont catch any brokenness before you do |
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| 12:19:43 | scorche | see: enable_dl, cgi.fix_pathinfo, and a few others |
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| 12:35:19 | b1uebrother | so, after getting distracted by the webcam |
| 12:35:32 | b1uebrother | back to the landscape thing |
| 12:36:36 | CIA-58 | New commit by bluebrother (r29951): Android: adjust screen orientation based on LCD size. ... |
| 12:36:47 | [Saint] | Go back to the webcam thing, uStream sucks! :P |
| 12:37:31 | b1uebrother | nah, I was only helping to stick that thing to the wall |
| 12:38:10 | [Saint] | Oh, so *that* explains the funny angle :D |
| 12:40:32 | CIA-58 | r29951 build result: All green |
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| 12:44:12 | b1uebrother | oh, that angle is indeed funny |
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| 12:53:58 | pamaury | it looks like the fuze+ has some undocumented constraints on the clock path to ssp ! Now it seems close to someone working |
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| 12:55:18 | CIA-58 | New commit by wodz (r29952): fix rockchip i2c driver |
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| 12:58:49 | CIA-58 | r29952 build result: All green |
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| 13:26:47 | scorche|sh | alright - it looks like I am through updating the server... |
| 13:27:08 | scorche|sh | let me know if you notice any oddities in the forums, theme, or translate sites |
| 13:32:57 | bertrik | pamaury, can you document those undocumented things somewhere? |
| 13:34:06 | bertrik | I feel for AMSv2 we have quite a few undocumented things figured out but nowhere documented and it's sometimes tricky to figure out afterwards why something has been done a certain way in sources |
| 13:37:53 | pamaury | I need to do more checks before documenting it |
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| 14:05:04 | * | bertrik remembers a patch for rockbox as an app on the zipit2 (whatever the zipit2 is) |
| 14:05:30 | [Saint] | there's maemo and pandora ports too... |
| 14:05:52 | [Saint] | (no idea about the usable state of either of them) |
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| 14:16:46 | amiconn | The maemo port is usable, but the wps is somewhat broken |
| 14:16:58 | amiconn | 800*480 that is (landscape) |
| 14:17:40 | [Saint] | yeah, it's just the 480X800 wps carved up which is equally broken. |
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| 14:21:59 | bertrik | I experimented a bit with ormlite, this is a light-weight ORM framework that can run on top of the native android sqlite stuff, it looked simple and nice |
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| 14:44:00 | bertrik | keyb_gr, what do you think of my most recent patch at http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12094 ? |
| 14:44:18 | keyb_gr | bertrik: Wait a µs, I'll have a look. Good catch re: the wrong initial frequency problem on RDA5802 btw. |
| 14:44:57 | bertrik | thanks, I thought that was going to be a really hard problem, but it all fell into place when looking closer at the initialisation values |
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| 14:53:02 | bertrik | here's another driver for the rda5802, it seems to use a much longer list of initial values (most of them to undocumented registers ...) : http://www.hackchina.com/en/r/148513/RDA_FM_drv.c__html |
| 14:53:46 | bertrik | I'd like to rely on the soft reset to get default values and then only modify those undocumented registers where needed |
| 14:56:34 | bertrik | BTW, the OF seems to use a fixed channel spacing of 50 kHz, while most regions use either a 100kHz or 200kHz grid. It's convenient in the channel number calculation, but do you think there's a side effect from this (e.g. too small bandwidth used somewhere)? |
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| 15:34:34 | Cassandra2 | GOds I hate trying to use the net mobilely. |
| 15:34:55 | Cassandra2 | Now is anyone at Devcon here? |
| 15:35:58 | Cassandra2 | Is anyone here at all? |
| 15:35:58 | keyb_gr | bertrik: makes sense to handle undocumented regs like that. |
| 15:36:27 | Cassandra2 | Well, that's the latter question answered. |
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| 15:38:03 | keyb_gr | bertrik: Settings for Italy use 50k steps, don't forget. Crowded airwaves down there. As long as steps are set up correctly for each region, we shouldn't get any issues. |
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| 15:39:09 | keyb_gr | bertrik: BTW, I noticed that we don't handle OIRT FM at all AFAICT, even though the Si or RDA chips could tune down there. |
| 15:39:42 | keyb_gr | bertrik: Uploaded a new version of your FS #12094 patch btw. |
| 15:39:42 | bluebrother-bot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12094 RDA5802 tuner: clean up register 0x4 handling, drop implicitly enabled soft-mute (patches, unconfirmed) |
| 15:40:07 | Cassandra2 | still looking to speak to someone at devcon if there are any out there. |
| 15:40:34 | JdGordon | Cassandra2: sounds like they've gone to lunch |
| 15:40:35 | keyb_gr | Cassandra2: Try #rockbox-community |
| 15:42:25 | Cassandra2 | jdgordon: if we knew where, I could probably find them in person. |
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| 16:16:36 | bertrik | keyb_gr, I was wondering if the 50 kHz spacing would have some kind of bad effect for 100 kHz and 200 kHz regions |
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| 16:22:36 | bertrik | keyb_gr, actually Italy uses 100kHz for the vast majority of it FM transmitters too, 50 kHz spacings in Italy are extremely rare, look them up at fmlist.org |
| 16:23:59 | bertrik | the special region setting for Italy is there for those few transmitters that use a 50 kHz. |
| 16:25:00 | bertrik | THere are probably other countries for which this applies too, but I guess no-one really looked at it. |
| 16:25:08 | bertrik | And it would make the |
| 16:25:17 | bertrik | "region" list explode very likely |
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| 16:37:10 | pixelma | beve: you could record to mp3 - it's a format setting in the recording screen |
| 16:37:42 | pixelma | or maybe I didn't understand why you needed it in a plugin |
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| 16:47:31 | gevaerts | For those followingthe devcon discussion: http://www.rockbox.org/mail/archive/rockbox-dev-archive-2010-10/0038.shtml. |
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| 16:49:56 | beve | pixelma: thanks :) but i want to write my own plugin wich records sounds directly |
| 16:50:02 | beve | which* |
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| 17:05:16 | keyb_gr | bertrik: Why do you think the 50 kHz frequency steps could cause problems? That's just the PLL synthesizer's resolution. |
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| 17:08:03 | bertrik | keyb_gr, I'm not sure, I just think there's a possibility that there is something in the tuner narrowing the bandwidth when choosing a denser grid. On the si4700 (quite similar to the rda5802) we seem to take special care of getting the spacings to match the actual region |
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| 18:00:58 | CIA-58 | New commit by wodz (r29953): rk27xx - missing semicolon |
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| 18:07:23 | bertrik | keyb_gr, I think I'll commit your new patch for FS #12094 soon |
| 18:07:24 | bluebrother-bot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12094 RDA5802 tuner: clean up register 0x4 handling, drop implicitly enabled soft-mute (patches, unconfirmed) |
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| 18:17:52 | bertrik | Our current situation regarding (D)VCS with git-svn isn't so bad is it? Fans of git can use git locally and just have to use git svn dcommit instead of git push as far as I understand. And with svn as the main repo, we still have a consistent version number. |
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| 18:23:30 | amiconn | For everyone who's not using quassel, that's how they do it: 0.8-pre+76 git-644837b |
| 18:23:47 | amiconn | Essentially they tag a <n+1>-pre after branching a release |
| 18:24:01 | Zagor | amiconn: I think our system should be: 3.8+112 |
| 18:24:13 | Zagor | nothing more |
| 18:24:26 | B4gder | Zagor: I hash in there is more convenient |
| 18:24:35 | amiconn | But then you can't distinguish whether this is on the release branch, or on trunk |
| 18:24:46 | Zagor | B4gder: convenient for who? |
| 18:24:51 | B4gder | for git |
| 18:25:08 | Zagor | what does git have to do with this? it's a user thing |
| 18:25:19 | B4gder | because you may want to checkout or compare with that version |
| 18:25:38 | B4gder | so I advocate the git describe −−tags output |
| 18:25:41 | Zagor | right, in which case you need to look up which had that version had. displaying the hash is next to pointless. |
| 18:25:50 | Zagor | s/had/hash |
| 18:25:57 | B4gder | it's not that easy to look that up afaik |
| 18:27:24 | Zagor | so we'll write a script to do it |
| 18:27:57 | B4gder | it can be done, I just think it is an unnecessary extra step |
| 18:28:28 | Zagor | I think the exact opposite: having a hash in the version is an unnecessary extra step |
| 18:29:21 | B4gder | I disagree, it makes it a lot more convenient to get the exact version |
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| 18:29:34 | B4gder | it takes away the need for an extra script |
| 18:29:46 | Zagor | bah, "findhash.sh 3.8 112" isn't hard |
| 18:29:54 | B4gder | as the web ui etc often works with exact hashes |
| 18:29:55 | Zagor | and it makes it waaaay easier for users |
| 18:30:12 | B4gder | I think you're overdoing the trouble a 6-digit hash adds |
| 18:30:24 | B4gder | or 7 or 8 |
| 18:30:51 | amiconn | Zagor: How do you distinguish commits on trunk vs. commits on a release branch with that scheme? |
| 18:30:59 | B4gder | you don't |
| 18:31:05 | B4gder | just as svn rev numbers don't |
| 18:31:12 | Zagor | this scheme is only for the trunk |
| 18:31:25 | Zagor | to identify bleeding edge builds |
| 18:31:51 | amiconn | People might want to test post-release fixes before making a point release |
| 18:31:57 | Zagor | anything more complex can just use the hash |
| 18:32:13 | Zagor | just like all other branches |
| 18:32:18 | amiconn | Or would the number still be different? |
| 18:32:59 | bertrik | sticking to svn, and using git-svn is fine for me so far |
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| 18:41:10 | Zagor | so we're going git then |
| 18:41:32 | thomasjfox | yeah! |
| 18:42:00 | [Saint] | ...yay :-S |
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| 19:05:15 | * | bertrik usually tries a test-compile for amsv2, archos, a touch screen target, a sim and an ipod, depending on the scope of the change |
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| 19:31:54 | B4gder | the player 185 times |
| 19:31:58 | B4gder | the recorder 142 times |
| 19:32:05 | B4gder | 3.8.1 downloads in May |
| 19:33:19 | B4gder | ipod 3g 316 times |
| 19:34:45 | Cassandra2 | in how long? |
| 19:35:07 | B4gder | during May 2011 |
| 19:35:19 | B4gder | archos ondio SP 14 downloads =) |
| 19:36:00 | B4gder | ondio FM 18 times |
| 19:36:40 | Cassandra2 | I am probaably one of those 18. |
| 19:36:56 | Cassandra2 | I occasuionally update all my devices. |
| 19:37:15 | Cassandra2 | Oh, Ondio, sorry - I thought that was FM recorder. |
| 19:37:49 | B4gder | fm recorder, 26 times |
| 19:38:56 | bertrik | what's the most downloaded target? |
| 19:39:47 | Cassandra2 | Do you have stats on how many of those DLs are from distinct IPsS? |
| 19:39:51 | B4gder | sansa clip+ 8336 times |
| 19:40:26 | B4gder | Cassandra2: no, I guess I _can_ figure that out but I think this is mostly for a rough number |
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| 19:42:35 | Cassandra2 | Just wondered how indicative those numbers were of unique users. |
| 19:43:11 | B4gder | well, assumingly the same user rarely downloads the same image multiple times |
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| 19:47:38 | Cassandra2 | That seems like a reasonable assumption |
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| 19:54:16 | bertrik | whoever is experimenting with the rbtest stuff (Bagder, Zagor ?): my client seems to finish too quickly, I think it's not compiling at all |
| 19:55:42 | Zagor | bertrik: yes, I see that too. I haven't looked at it yet, still doing server-side adjustments. |
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| 19:56:15 | Zagor | fun facts: Our most popular target is Sansa Clip Plus |
| 19:56:36 | Zagor | the 3.8.1 release for it has been downloaded 16422 times so far |
| 19:57:45 | Zagor | the least popular target is Archos Recorder v2, at 121 downloads |
| 19:58:44 | bertrik | interesting stuff :) |
| 19:59:05 | B4gder | Zagor: scroll up, I pretty much said this =) |
| 19:59:38 | Zagor | no, I said it better ;-) |
| 19:59:52 | B4gder | is the ondio fm actually more popular than the v2? |
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| 20:00:35 | B4gder | it certainly wasn't in May |
| 20:00:45 | B4gder | recorder v2 67 downloads |
| 20:01:43 | Zagor | I don't see a single ondio download in this list |
| 20:01:57 | B4gder | how do you list them? |
| 20:02:21 | bertrik | the clip+ is recommended a lot at anythingbutipod, and also I think it's still available for sale (as far as I know) |
| 20:02:32 | amiconn | Hmm, nobody seems to have noticed the stream stopped? o.O |
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| 20:12:56 | webguest19 | Hi, isthere anyone here that can help a dim person to manyaly install RB on my sansa clip? |
| 20:13:23 | webguest19 | I have no idea on how Terminal works. |
| 20:14:03 | webguest19 | So when it says, "locate rbinstall folder" I cant figure out how to do that? |
| 20:14:07 | GodEater | why manually? |
| 20:14:15 | GodEater | why not just use RBUtil? |
| 20:14:26 | webguest19 | Dos-nt work. |
| 20:14:34 | GodEater | we beg to differ |
| 20:14:43 | webguest19 | An, article in the Forum told me to |
| 20:14:51 | AlexP | what forum? |
| 20:14:54 | webguest19 | http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,27926.0.html |
| 20:15:48 | AlexP | oh, you need the newer bootloader then |
| 20:15:51 | bertrik | hm, there's a newer version of the OF now? |
| 20:16:15 | AlexP | Which step in the manual instructions in the manual is giving you problems? |
| 20:16:23 | webguest19 | The terminal part. |
| 20:16:49 | GodEater | could you be less vague? |
| 20:16:49 | AlexP | In what way? That isn't very specific |
| 20:16:52 | webguest19 | Have never used teminal. So to locate something for me was not as intuitive as I thought it would |
| 20:17:04 | b1uebrother | which OS? |
| 20:17:11 | webguest19 | Terminal = OSx |
| 20:17:29 | b1uebrother | ok. Thought that but it's always better to ask :) |
| 20:17:39 | b1uebrother | where did you store the downloaded files? |
| 20:17:49 | amiconn | SVN bootloader is working fine on X5 as well as M3 |
| 20:18:13 | * | amiconn will look into fs #5289 |
| 20:18:55 | webguest19 | I stored them both at my user folder and at the "Macintosh HD" root. Since I was unshure what "home-folder" ment |
| 20:19:51 | b1uebrother | in Terminal, the home folder is /Users/webguest19 |
| 20:19:56 | b1uebrother | assuming your username is webguest19 |
| 20:20:46 | webguest19 | Hm.. I found out how to locat it, but now it says Permission denied. |
| 20:22:32 | webguest19 | How do I give myself premition? |
| 20:22:54 | b1uebrother | what are you trying to execute? |
| 20:23:02 | b1uebrother | you've downloaded sansapatcher.dmg, right? |
| 20:23:23 | b1uebrother | then double click it in Finder so it gets opened. |
| 20:23:37 | b1uebrother | then you should be able to run sansapatcher as /Volumes/sansapatcher/sansapatcher |
| 20:23:47 | b1uebrother | (sorry, can't verify right now, Mac not in reach) |
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| 20:24:43 | bertrik | the sansa forums don't show the 01.02.16 version for the clip+ yet |
| 20:25:39 | bertrik | I wonder why they issued an updated, I hope it's a regular bugfix, not introducing support for some kind of new hardware feature or configuration |
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| 20:28:26 | webguest19 | hm... I downloaded the mkamboot and ran the dmg and opened ran the file. The it said [process completed] |
| 20:29:11 | b1uebrother | webguest19: ah, sorry, my bad. You don't need sansapatcher. Mixed it up with the other devices :o |
| 20:29:25 | b1uebrother | you need to start Terminal itself first. |
| 20:29:39 | b1uebrother | Go to Applications / Utilities / Terminal in the Dock |
| 20:29:46 | b1uebrother | then Terminal itself will start up |
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| 20:43:54 | * | beve_ is impressed by the work done by the rockbox contributors, downloaded svn, after 20mins cross compiling environnement ok, custom build for sansa clip+ working and device flashed and working with last svn version |
| 20:44:25 | beve_ | simply awesome |
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| 20:44:48 | amiconn | The stream should be working again now |
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| 20:44:54 | bertrik | beve, nice eh? |
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| 20:45:23 | * | amiconn doesn't know whether the webcam driver or the flash plugin was at fault |
| 20:45:25 | beve | yes, definitely |
| 20:45:39 | amiconn | http://j-tv.me/mB8J6r |
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| 20:50:29 | Zagor | hmm, I want to move to a single command line for rockbuild. but then how to do with make -jN ? |
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| 20:50:36 | B4gder | Zagor: what's the problem with -j? |
| 20:50:58 | Zagor | well, each client defines/knows how many cores it has so it wants to pass N to make |
| 20:51:34 | * | b1uebrother is going to commit FS #12097 soonish −− any final objections? |
| 20:51:35 | bluebrother-bot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12097 Android: headphone detection (enabling pause on unplug) (patches, new) |
| 20:51:40 | Zagor | but if we define the full command line on the server (i.e. "configure && make zip") then inserting -jN is non-obvious |
| 20:52:39 | Zagor | today we basically have two command lines: 1) configure parameters and 2) make targets. and the client constructs the command lines from that. |
| 20:52:46 | Zagor | but that's very rockbox specific |
| 20:53:24 | b1uebrother | Zagor: can't you just pass an array of commands to run? |
| 20:53:42 | Zagor | b1uebrother: same problem. where should the client inject "-jN" ? |
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| 20:54:01 | b1uebrother | hmm. Maybe some template system? |
| 20:54:09 | Zagor | s/make /make -jN / would work in most cases I guess |
| 20:54:18 | GodEater | can't we just use "make -j" and leave out the N ? |
| 20:54:18 | b1uebrother | like "make $MAKEOPTS$ zip"? |
| 20:54:35 | Zagor | GodEater: no, that's disaster for low-mem clients on complex builds |
| 20:54:40 | bertrik | isn't make -j basically equivalent to make -j<infinity> ? |
| 20:54:45 | Zagor | bertrik: ye |
| 20:54:45 | Zagor | s |
| 20:54:50 | B4gder | it is, if the build is made like that |
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| 20:54:54 | * | b1uebrother managed to make his netbook unusable by using make -j some time ago |
| 20:55:03 | b1uebrother | well, until the next reboot of course :) |
| 20:55:26 | Zagor | b1uebrother: right, a variable like that should to do it |
| 20:55:53 | CIA-58 | New commit by bluebrother (r29954): Center Rockbox logo when smaller than the screen size. |
| 20:56:09 | * | b1uebrother would like to see the manual in the build system |
| 20:56:34 | b1uebrother | time to look at that LaTeX error thing again |
| 20:58:54 | CIA-58 | r29954 build result: All green |
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| 21:02:03 | pixelma | rasher: around? Or anyone else knowing langtool? |
| 21:02:22 | rasher | pixelma: Maybe |
| 21:02:49 | pixelma | rasher: nice |
| 21:03:27 | rasher | Zagor: Wait, MAKEOPTS already exists and works... Well, maybe I should read back and trying to see what problem you're solving I guess :) |
| 21:04:18 | rasher | As in, if MAKEOPTS is set, make will read it and apply them, no hacking needed |
| 21:04:35 | pixelma | I made a patch ages ago updating a features line for all languages at that time with langtool. Is there a simple way to find out or just run it again to update it for languages that were added later or got the string added? |
| 21:04:43 | Zagor | yes, but I only want -jN on builds marked multithread safe |
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| 21:04:55 | pixelma | update it = the patch |
| 21:05:06 | rasher | Zagor: so MAKEOPTS= make for builds which aren't? |
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| 21:05:24 | rasher | or even -j1 |
| 21:05:45 | rasher | Why are there multithread-unsafe builds anyway! |
| 21:06:26 | rasher | pixelma: not quite sure I understand the question. Can't you just run it on the new languages? |
| 21:07:13 | pixelma | thing is that I don't know for sure if there were new languages or that string added to other languages later |
| 21:09:06 | rasher | pixelma: hm actually, running it again shouldn't hurt, because it only checks for exact matches for the old target-value |
| 21:09:14 | Zagor | rasher: because make builds thread safe is not obvious unless you think about it. all rockbox builds are multithread safe, but only because we've put in some effort to make them so |
| 21:09:40 | pixelma | rasher: oh ok, I'll try (have to look up the exact use) |
| 21:10:07 | B4gder | with the discussions being done, maybe... it.... is... time... fooooorr.... |
| 21:10:16 | Zagor | coffee? |
| 21:10:20 | B4gder | TOWER! |
| 21:10:25 | Zagor | oooh |
| 21:10:34 | rasher | Zagor: oh is this for making the build system a more general use thing? |
| 21:10:55 | Zagor | rasher: yes |
| 21:11:19 | rasher | ah, I guess some people will want that then |
| 21:11:26 | rasher | I still say they should fix their builds instead though :) |
| 21:12:22 | amiconn | Hmm, the iaudio dualboot patch predates target tree |
| 21:12:23 | Zagor | it turns out there's quite a lot of interest in our build system from other projects |
| 21:12:46 | amiconn | (and the beginning of it is even pre-svn |
| 21:12:52 | bertrik | Zagor, cool |
| 21:13:37 | Cassandra2 | Gods - I would have thought it's so specific to Rockbox making it more generally useful would be an awful lot of work. |
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| 21:13:50 | Zagor | Cassandra2: it's not so bad, actually |
| 21:14:40 | Zagor | we're basically doing configure && make in a lot of different combinations. and that's the same thing most other projects do too. |
| 21:17:08 | CIA-58 | New commit by amiconn (r29955): iAudio boot: Unify common macro values |
| 21:17:49 | CIA-58 | New commit by bluebrother (r29956): Android: implement headphone detection thus enabling pause on unplug (FS #12097). ... |
| 21:17:49 | bluebrother-bot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12097 Android: headphone detection (enabling pause on unplug) (patches, new) |
| 21:17:53 | CIA-58 | New commit by bluebrother (r29957): Android: listen to ACTION_AUDIO_BECOMING_NOISY for headphone (FS #12097). ... |
| 21:17:54 | bluebrother-bot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12097 Android: headphone detection (enabling pause on unplug) (patches, closed) |
| 21:18:18 | rasher | well that's noisy.. |
| 21:18:54 | rasher | bluebroth3r: Maybe your bot should ignore CIA.. |
| 21:20:06 | bertrik | did anyone bring an ipod accessory to devcon? |
| 21:20:14 | CIA-58 | r29955 build result: All green |
| 21:20:16 | Zagor | FS #12097 ? |
| 21:20:16 | bluebrother-bot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12097 Android: headphone detection (enabling pause on unplug) (patches, closed) |
| 21:20:52 | Zagor | hmm |
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| 21:22:14 | amiconn | Hmm, not pre target tree, just boot.lds not yet in there |
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| 21:22:46 | b1uebrother | rasher: I was thinking about that but unsure which way to go |
| 21:22:54 | b1uebrother | Zagor: hmm? |
| 21:23:19 | CIA-58 | r29957 build result: All green |
| 21:23:31 | rasher | b1uebrother: if a task is mentioned in a commit message, I'd hope the rest of the message include an explanation |
| 21:24:08 | Zagor | b1uebrother: I just wasn't aware the bot reacts to random mentions. |
| 21:24:26 | Zagor | I agree with rasher you should probably filter out messages from CIA-* |
| 21:24:31 | b1uebrother | Zagor: ah, ok. |
| 21:24:54 | b1uebrother | maybe we should discuss if we want such a bot at all and what exactly it should do :) |
| 21:25:14 | b1uebrother | since the current one is rather ugly and was merely a test to see how hard it is to write one ;-) |
| 21:25:17 | gevaerts | b1uebrother: we did discuss enough for today already! |
| 21:25:37 | rasher | protip: hostmask matching in python can be outsourced to fnmatch.fnmatch |
| 21:25:55 | b1uebrother | gevaerts: we can safely spare that for tomorrow! |
| 21:26:42 | LinusN | the H120 svn bootloader works fine for me! |
| 21:26:52 | b1uebrother | LinusN: \o/ |
| 21:27:06 | bertrik | so it broke and then spontaneously unbroke itself? |
| 21:27:15 | LinusN | was it ever broken? |
| 21:27:21 | bertrik | I don't know |
| 21:27:28 | * | rasher remembers unknowingly testing the svn bootloader without realising the dangers |
| 21:27:32 | rasher | (it worked) |
| 21:27:42 | LinusN | word is that the h300 bootloader is in a worse state |
| 21:28:32 | B4gder | it struck me that with git we should adopt a slightly different commit message style |
| 21:30:28 | b1uebrother | wouldn't that be good anyway? |
| 21:30:52 | bertrik | what needs to change with git? |
| 21:31:32 | B4gder | it benefits from messages in the style [50 letter summary] [newline][newline][long description] |
| 21:32:23 | B4gder | makes git shortlog and git blame etc nicer |
| 21:33:05 | CIA-58 | New commit by pixelma (r29958): Languages: make the Clip+ use the microSD specific string to refer to the external card instead of only the general multivolume fallback. |
| 21:33:42 | b1uebrother | B4gder: that makes the svn log of TortoiseSVN nicer as well! |
| 21:36:19 | CIA-58 | r29958 build result: All green |
| 21:36:39 | kugel | [Saint]: ping |
| 21:37:00 | Zagor | b1uebrother: tortoiseSVN for git? :) |
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| 21:39:11 | b1uebrother | Zagor: :o |
| 21:39:25 | pixelma | LinusN: wasn't there some issue with petur's H100 and the bootloader? |
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| 21:43:10 | LinusN | pixelma: no, with his h380 |
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| 21:43:56 | pixelma | ah, got it confused then |
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| 22:03:34 | saratoga | Bertrik: seen FS #12147? |
| 22:03:35 | bluebrother-bot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12147 Assigns bigger IRAM for libtremor (patches, unconfirmed) |
| 22:04:00 | saratoga | i'm confused why he sees a speed up, as I recall the Clip+ runs all codecs from IRAM |
| 22:04:28 | bertrik | saratoga, I'm not so familiar with the memory layout on AMS and AMSv2 anymore |
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| 22:07:41 | saratoga | bertrik: yeah I just checked, the entire codec is in IRAM always |
| 22:10:36 | b1uebrother | kugel: I can set the timestamp of arbitraryFile to the same of libmisc.so. Works for me. |
| 22:10:44 | kugel | so, didn't we plan for doing something this evening in the first discussion round? |
| 22:11:18 | kugel | b1uebrother: nice |
| 22:13:05 | b1uebrother | doing something? Like building a tower? |
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| 22:18:16 | CIA-58 | New commit by bertrik (r29959): FS #12094 - RDA5802 tuner: clean up register 0x4 handling, drop implicitly enabled soft-mute by Stephan Grossklass and me |
| 22:18:17 | bluebrother-bot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12094 RDA5802 tuner: clean up register 0x4 handling, drop implicitly enabled soft-mute (patches, unconfirmed) |
| 22:18:37 | kugel | I think it had to do with android or the build system (or both) |
| 22:21:03 | CIA-58 | r29959 build result: All green |
| 22:23:14 | bertrik | I'll go after the 01.02.16 clip+ firmware and check if can be patched safely |
| 22:23:55 | B4gder | if there's any devcon attendee interested, I'm giving away a Recorder, an X5, a sandisk m200 and a jtag-soldered sansa e200 board |
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| 22:24:58 | b1uebrother | B4gder: you're stopping working on Rockbox? |
| 22:25:24 | B4gder | these are devices I haven't touched in years |
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| 22:31:12 | CIA-58 | New commit by bluebrother (r29960): Move various logo files to a single location. ... |
| 22:34:19 | CIA-58 | r29960 build result: All green |
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| 22:39:57 | CIA-58 | New commit by kugel (r29961): Hopefully FS #12064 - Android: Possible fix for audio stopping on high CPU load. ... |
| 22:39:58 | bluebrother-bot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12064 Android: Possible fix for audio stopping on high CPU load (patches, new) |
| 22:42:28 | gevaerts | For the record, B4gder's jtagged e200 works :) |
| 22:42:48 | B4gder | now running 3.8.1! |
| 22:43:18 | CIA-58 | r29961 build result: All green |
| 22:45:43 | * | b1uebrother goes closing some tasks |
| 22:45:48 | b1uebrother | kugel: yay! |
| 22:46:21 | b1uebrother | might be interesting if it fixes the issue for GodEater |
| 22:46:29 | bertrik | bah, the sansa updater isn't offering the clip+ 1.02.16 firmware update |
| 22:47:37 | kugel | GodEater: ping :) |
| 22:51:04 | b1uebrother | bertrik: is that not available as zip on the sandisk website? |
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| 22:51:30 | bertrik | bluebroth3r, I think sandisk wants you to use the upgrader |
| 22:54:21 | bertrik | I tried modifying the direct link for 1.02.15 but it doesn't work unfortunately. I read in one post that someone got this firmware pre-installed on a new clip+ |
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| 22:59:14 | bertrik | ok, so much for trying that .. |
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| 23:05:24 | B4gder | kugel: can I suggest we close FS #11234 and open up specific tasks instead of there are remaining things? |
| 23:05:25 | bluebrother-bot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11234 Rockbox as an Application (patches, new) |
| 23:06:09 | kugel | B4gder: good idea :) |
| 23:14:05 | gevaerts | LinusN: while you're working on h100 bootloaders, any opinion on FS #3039 ? |
| 23:14:06 | bluebrother-bot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/3039 iriver battery safe bootloader (patches, new) |
| 23:14:33 | kugel | GodEater: I tried to tell you multiple times but you didn't seem to listen :) I think random stops are possibly a different problem. the task was about (more or less) reproducable stops when high cpu load occurs |
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| 23:15:02 | pixelma | wasn't there also something about battery charging animation? |
| 23:15:15 | pixelma | in the Iriver bootloaders that was |
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| 23:17:09 | LinusN | pixelma: yes, but we ditched that idea |
| 23:18:17 | pixelma | is there not enough space for it? Just asking because I think I remember a discussion with wodz who wanted (or actually did) something like this for the MPIOs |
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| 23:18:58 | Zagor | can anyone think of a case where the "result" file and the "upload" file are different? (the "result" output file is what is checked for build success) |
| 23:19:26 | Zagor | we currently specify both, but I can't think of a case where that's needed |
| 23:19:40 | wodz | yes, I made some time ago the bootloader with "charging" animation for HD200 but the graphic itself was not perfect |
| 23:19:48 | b1uebrother | Zagor: you could pre-parse the result before uploading, f.e. for LaTeX logs which can become quite large |
| 23:20:02 | b1uebrother | so it _might_ make sense to use that. No idea if it's actually necessary though |
| 23:20:22 | LinusN | gevaerts: wow, that patch is ooooooold |
| 23:20:45 | bertrik | does it still apply? |
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| 23:21:04 | LinusN | bertrik: nope, not even close |
| 23:21:29 | Zagor | b1uebrother: nah, the clients don't parse the result. that is for the server. |
| 23:22:50 | GodEater | kugel: sorry - hard to listen whilst I'm testing out listening to music to see if it stops ;) |
| 23:23:18 | kugel | you listened to gevaerts ;) |
| 23:23:26 | GodEater | I did? |
| 23:23:29 | GodEater | what was he telling me? |
| 23:23:37 | gevaerts | LinusN: but does it work? :) |
| 23:23:46 | kugel | I don't know either :P |
| 23:25:17 | * | bertrik wonders if git can magically merge that |
| 23:25:39 | LinusN | gevaerts: most of it is already implemented in svn |
| 23:26:06 | bertrik | oh, this is a patch from back when we used *cvs* |
| 23:26:17 | gevaerts | LinusN: too late anyway, b1uebrother just closed it :) |
| 23:26:43 | LinusN | hehe |
| 23:26:47 | B4gder | who can close the most bug or patch entries before midnight? |
| 23:28:34 | * | Zagor starts writing a perl scripts |
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| 23:38:28 | wodz | since we have M3 here it may be interesting to look at FS #12026 |
| 23:38:29 | bluebrother-bot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12026 iaudio m3: display/screen goes blank after a while and never recovers (bugs, unconfirmed) |
| 23:39:44 | petur | rasher: ping |
| 23:41:08 | rasher | petur: pong |
| 23:42:06 | petur | if I would change the name of a LANG ID in all lang files and code, would that break any of your scripts? |
| 23:42:09 | wodz | pixelma or amiconn : ^^^ |
| 23:42:45 | amiconn | Doesn't happen for me... :\ |
| 23:43:03 | amiconn | (not that I'm using the M3 much, but I tried it some time ago) |
| 23:43:11 | rasher | petur: I don't see any reason why it would. I'm not sure what the implications are for lang files. I *think* it shouldn't make any difference |
| 23:43:21 | rasher | I think Bagder is the real authority on that part |
| 23:43:22 | wodz | so we should close this probably |
| 23:43:34 | B4gder | petur: I think its fine, I can't think of any problems with that |
| 23:43:49 | * | b1uebrother just rejected a patch with the comment "no realname" |
| 23:43:52 | petur | ok |
| 23:44:05 | amiconn | This is most probably a problem with transfer speed, but (a) I have no idea how much to lower it in order to make it work for the problematic devices and (b) lowering transfer speed is not that good an idea |
| 23:44:38 | wodz | so let's close this as non reproducible |
| 23:44:59 | bertrik | Can you measure the transfer speed somehow? |
| 23:45:08 | amiconn | An possible alternative would to just reinit the lcd every so often |
| 23:45:25 | amiconn | s/An/A/ |
| 23:46:25 | b1uebrother | JdGordon: ping |
| 23:46:26 | pixelma | wodz: I didn't have a remote for my M5 until... yesterday and haven't seen it either in my short tests |
| 23:46:44 | pixelma | but I believe there were reports like this every now and then :\ |
| 23:46:47 | b1uebrother | JdGordon: FS #9514 is outdated, isn't it? |
| 23:46:47 | bluebrother-bot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/9514 make simple list accept a viewport (patches, new) |
| 23:48:38 | Zagor | is there any way to list (with a command-line tool) which android sdk version(s) you have installed? |
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| 23:50:16 | Zagor | hmm, "android list target" seems to do it |
| 23:50:42 | b1uebrother | Zagor: just wanted to mention that :) |
| 23:51:08 | Zagor | The "API level field is nice": 7,8,9,10,Honeycomb,11... |
| 23:51:14 | Zagor | food! |
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