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#rockbox log for 2011-06-04

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00:27:12CIA-58New commit by gevaerts (r29950): Problem hopefully solved
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00:39:02CtcpVersion from HotSkull!
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00:39:44ZagorAlexP, Bagder and anyone else wanting to help with rockbuild testing:
00:40:59HotSkullcan i mod ipod nano 4g?
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00:46:26Zagoroh, I missed a line
00:47:52B4gderit'll take me a sec, my laptop doesn't have that compiler
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00:49:54ZagorB4gder: you can run it on your home box if you like. it uses a different port. is not playing nicely with us today
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00:52:11pixelmaZagor: what's needed to help out testing?
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00:52:37pixelmahmm... should have looked at the link first
00:52:55Zagorpixelma: :-)
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00:54:13ZagorB4gder: reload the page. I forgot some steps :-)
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03:06:20[Saint]Hmmm... bluebroth3r, could bluebrother-bot also link to the diff file on each commit? ie. if the FS# either isn't present, or not included in the commit message?
03:06:26[Saint](just an idea I had...)
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06:20:15Peddy[Saint], do you happen to have any spare working fuze scrollwheels?
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09:51:24bluebroth3r[Saint]: I think adding another link would be too much
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10:00:53[Saint]bluebroth3r: I was talking about things like "<CIA-58> New commit by gevaerts (r29950): Problem hopefully solved" for instance, that show a revision number but don't mention (or don't have) an FS#
10:01:38[Saint]I think it'd be nice if to review that commit I could just click a link in IRC, as opposed to having to fish out the diff manually.
10:02:01[Saint](again, just a biggie)
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10:08:05bluebroth3r[Saint]: hmm, that could be considered. Discussing on how to proceed with such notifications might be a good idea.
10:09:04[Saint]I notice you're on your phone now (or, I assume you are), a slightly more sane time, sure ;)
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11:19:08gevaerts[Saint]: sorry, I should have used a clearer message. That was to the build system
11:19:37[Saint]gevaerts: Oh...nothing against you personally, it was just an example I used.
11:19:58[Saint]Some commits for instance have no FS# task, so it'd be good to be able to link to the diff on the svn repo
11:21:20AlexPWe can make CIA do that I imagine
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11:47:04b1uebrotherkugel: trying that portrait vs landscape thing for Android
11:47:35*[Saint] wonders what "thing" this is...
11:48:03b1uebrother[Saint]: adjust AndroidManifest.xml to allow building a landscape version of Rockbox for Android
11:48:31[Saint]Oh, right...yeah. I knew that much, I was too hopeful about what I thought you meant ;)
11:49:17[Saint]the cool thing about Android, is, if you have a DPAD it's smart enough to remap the buttons if you swap the orientation in the manifest.xml
11:50:21[Saint]I tried having two RaaA builds on my phone, and using an app called Tasker to kill/run them based on screen orientation...didn't work out too well ;)
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12:01:02b1uebrother[Saint]: in a short time you'll need to port your theme to landscape :)
12:02:24[Saint]....any particular reason?
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12:03:13[Saint]Is there orientation sensitive switching going in? Or is it just decided it should be landscape?
12:03:44[Saint](the latter I wouldn't be too keen on, the former..."meh".)
12:04:48b1uebrotherno, just a configure "option"
12:05:03b1uebrother(it's not a real option, it's decided based on LCD width and height)
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12:15:34scorcherasher: I have upgraded a whole host of packages on my server
12:16:20scorcherasher: php in particular changed a ton of defaults, but everything seems to look to work for now - let me know if something needs to be changed if I dont catch any brokenness before you do
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12:19:43scorchesee: enable_dl, cgi.fix_pathinfo, and a few others
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12:35:19b1uebrotherso, after getting distracted by the webcam
12:35:32b1uebrotherback to the landscape thing
12:36:36CIA-58New commit by bluebrother (r29951): Android: adjust screen orientation based on LCD size. ...
12:36:47[Saint]Go back to the webcam thing, uStream sucks! :P
12:37:31b1uebrothernah, I was only helping to stick that thing to the wall
12:38:10[Saint]Oh, so *that* explains the funny angle :D
12:40:32CIA-58r29951 build result: All green
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12:44:12b1uebrotheroh, that angle is indeed funny
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12:53:58pamauryit looks like the fuze+ has some undocumented constraints on the clock path to ssp ! Now it seems close to someone working
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12:55:18CIA-58New commit by wodz (r29952): fix rockchip i2c driver
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12:58:49CIA-58r29952 build result: All green
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13:26:47scorche|shalright - it looks like I am through updating the server...
13:27:08scorche|shlet me know if you notice any oddities in the forums, theme, or translate sites
13:32:57bertrikpamaury, can you document those undocumented things somewhere?
13:34:06bertrikI feel for AMSv2 we have quite a few undocumented things figured out but nowhere documented and it's sometimes tricky to figure out afterwards why something has been done a certain way in sources
13:37:53pamauryI need to do more checks before documenting it
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14:05:04*bertrik remembers a patch for rockbox as an app on the zipit2 (whatever the zipit2 is)
14:05:30[Saint]there's maemo and pandora ports too...
14:05:52[Saint](no idea about the usable state of either of them)
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14:16:46amiconnThe maemo port is usable, but the wps is somewhat broken
14:16:58amiconn800*480 that is (landscape)
14:17:40[Saint]yeah, it's just the 480X800 wps carved up which is equally broken.
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14:21:59bertrikI experimented a bit with ormlite, this is a light-weight ORM framework that can run on top of the native android sqlite stuff, it looked simple and nice
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14:44:00bertrikkeyb_gr, what do you think of my most recent patch at ?
14:44:18keyb_grbertrik: Wait a s, I'll have a look. Good catch re: the wrong initial frequency problem on RDA5802 btw.
14:44:57bertrikthanks, I thought that was going to be a really hard problem, but it all fell into place when looking closer at the initialisation values
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14:53:02bertrikhere's another driver for the rda5802, it seems to use a much longer list of initial values (most of them to undocumented registers ...) :
14:53:46bertrikI'd like to rely on the soft reset to get default values and then only modify those undocumented registers where needed
14:56:34bertrikBTW, the OF seems to use a fixed channel spacing of 50 kHz, while most regions use either a 100kHz or 200kHz grid. It's convenient in the channel number calculation, but do you think there's a side effect from this (e.g. too small bandwidth used somewhere)?
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15:10:07beveis there a way to record from microphone to an mp3 or ogg file in a plugin ? i'm searching in plugin.h and it seems there only binding to pcm_record* functions
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15:34:34Cassandra2GOds I hate trying to use the net mobilely.
15:34:55Cassandra2Now is anyone at Devcon here?
15:35:58Cassandra2Is anyone here at all?
15:35:58keyb_grbertrik: makes sense to handle undocumented regs like that.
15:36:27Cassandra2Well, that's the latter question answered.
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15:38:03keyb_grbertrik: Settings for Italy use 50k steps, don't forget. Crowded airwaves down there. As long as steps are set up correctly for each region, we shouldn't get any issues.
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15:39:09keyb_grbertrik: BTW, I noticed that we don't handle OIRT FM at all AFAICT, even though the Si or RDA chips could tune down there.
15:39:42keyb_grbertrik: Uploaded a new version of your FS #12094 patch btw.
15:39:42bluebrother-bot RDA5802 tuner: clean up register 0x4 handling, drop implicitly enabled soft-mute (patches, unconfirmed)
15:40:07Cassandra2still looking to speak to someone at devcon if there are any out there.
15:40:34JdGordonCassandra2: sounds like they've gone to lunch
15:40:35keyb_grCassandra2: Try #rockbox-community
15:42:25Cassandra2jdgordon: if we knew where, I could probably find them in person.
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16:16:36bertrikkeyb_gr, I was wondering if the 50 kHz spacing would have some kind of bad effect for 100 kHz and 200 kHz regions
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16:22:36bertrikkeyb_gr, actually Italy uses 100kHz for the vast majority of it FM transmitters too, 50 kHz spacings in Italy are extremely rare, look them up at
16:23:59bertrikthe special region setting for Italy is there for those few transmitters that use a 50 kHz.
16:25:00bertrikTHere are probably other countries for which this applies too, but I guess no-one really looked at it.
16:25:08bertrikAnd it would make the
16:25:17bertrik"region" list explode very likely
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16:37:10pixelmabeve: you could record to mp3 - it's a format setting in the recording screen
16:37:42pixelmaor maybe I didn't understand why you needed it in a plugin
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16:47:31gevaertsFor those followingthe devcon discussion:
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16:49:56bevepixelma: thanks :) but i want to write my own plugin wich records sounds directly
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17:05:16keyb_grbertrik: Why do you think the 50 kHz frequency steps could cause problems? That's just the PLL synthesizer's resolution.
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17:08:03bertrikkeyb_gr, I'm not sure, I just think there's a possibility that there is something in the tuner narrowing the bandwidth when choosing a denser grid. On the si4700 (quite similar to the rda5802) we seem to take special care of getting the spacings to match the actual region
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18:00:58CIA-58New commit by wodz (r29953): rk27xx - missing semicolon
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18:04:33CIA-58r29953 build result: All green
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18:07:23bertrikkeyb_gr, I think I'll commit your new patch for FS #12094 soon
18:07:24bluebrother-bot RDA5802 tuner: clean up register 0x4 handling, drop implicitly enabled soft-mute (patches, unconfirmed)
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18:17:52bertrikOur current situation regarding (D)VCS with git-svn isn't so bad is it? Fans of git can use git locally and just have to use git svn dcommit instead of git push as far as I understand. And with svn as the main repo, we still have a consistent version number.
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18:23:30amiconnFor everyone who's not using quassel, that's how they do it: 0.8-pre+76 git-644837b
18:23:47amiconnEssentially they tag a <n+1>-pre after branching a release
18:24:01Zagoramiconn: I think our system should be: 3.8+112
18:24:13Zagornothing more
18:24:26B4gderZagor: I hash in there is more convenient
18:24:35amiconnBut then you can't distinguish whether this is on the release branch, or on trunk
18:24:46ZagorB4gder: convenient for who?
18:24:51B4gderfor git
18:25:08Zagorwhat does git have to do with this? it's a user thing
18:25:19B4gderbecause you may want to checkout or compare with that version
18:25:38B4gderso I advocate the git describe −−tags output
18:25:41Zagorright, in which case you need to look up which had that version had. displaying the hash is next to pointless.
18:25:57B4gderit's not that easy to look that up afaik
18:27:24Zagorso we'll write a script to do it
18:27:57B4gderit can be done, I just think it is an unnecessary extra step
18:28:28ZagorI think the exact opposite: having a hash in the version is an unnecessary extra step
18:29:21B4gderI disagree, it makes it a lot more convenient to get the exact version
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18:29:34B4gderit takes away the need for an extra script
18:29:46Zagorbah, " 3.8 112" isn't hard
18:29:54B4gderas the web ui etc often works with exact hashes
18:29:55Zagorand it makes it waaaay easier for users
18:30:12B4gderI think you're overdoing the trouble a 6-digit hash adds
18:30:24B4gderor 7 or 8
18:30:51amiconnZagor: How do you distinguish commits on trunk vs. commits on a release branch with that scheme?
18:30:59B4gderyou don't
18:31:05B4gderjust as svn rev numbers don't
18:31:12Zagorthis scheme is only for the trunk
18:31:25Zagorto identify bleeding edge builds
18:31:51amiconnPeople might want to test post-release fixes before making a point release
18:31:57Zagoranything more complex can just use the hash
18:32:13Zagorjust like all other branches
18:32:18amiconnOr would the number still be different?
18:32:59bertriksticking to svn, and using git-svn is fine for me so far
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18:41:10Zagorso we're going git then
18:42:00[Saint]...yay :-S
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19:05:15*bertrik usually tries a test-compile for amsv2, archos, a touch screen target, a sim and an ipod, depending on the scope of the change
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19:31:54B4gderthe player 185 times
19:31:58B4gderthe recorder 142 times
19:32:05B4gder3.8.1 downloads in May
19:33:19B4gderipod 3g 316 times
19:34:45Cassandra2in how long?
19:35:07B4gderduring May 2011
19:35:19B4gderarchos ondio SP 14 downloads =)
19:36:00B4gderondio FM 18 times
19:36:40Cassandra2I am probaably one of those 18.
19:36:56Cassandra2I occasuionally update all my devices.
19:37:15Cassandra2Oh, Ondio, sorry - I thought that was FM recorder.
19:37:49B4gderfm recorder, 26 times
19:38:56bertrikwhat's the most downloaded target?
19:39:47Cassandra2Do you have stats on how many of those DLs are from distinct IPsS?
19:39:51B4gdersansa clip+ 8336 times
19:40:26B4gderCassandra2: no, I guess I _can_ figure that out but I think this is mostly for a rough number
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19:42:35Cassandra2Just wondered how indicative those numbers were of unique users.
19:43:11B4gderwell, assumingly the same user rarely downloads the same image multiple times
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19:47:38Cassandra2That seems like a reasonable assumption
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19:54:16bertrikwhoever is experimenting with the rbtest stuff (Bagder, Zagor ?): my client seems to finish too quickly, I think it's not compiling at all
19:55:42Zagorbertrik: yes, I see that too. I haven't looked at it yet, still doing server-side adjustments.
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19:56:15Zagorfun facts: Our most popular target is Sansa Clip Plus
19:56:36Zagorthe 3.8.1 release for it has been downloaded 16422 times so far
19:57:45Zagorthe least popular target is Archos Recorder v2, at 121 downloads
19:58:44bertrikinteresting stuff :)
19:59:05B4gderZagor: scroll up, I pretty much said this =)
19:59:38Zagorno, I said it better ;-)
19:59:52B4gderis the ondio fm actually more popular than the v2?
20:00:35B4gderit certainly wasn't in May
20:00:45B4gderrecorder v2 67 downloads
20:01:43ZagorI don't see a single ondio download in this list
20:01:57B4gderhow do you list them?
20:02:21bertrikthe clip+ is recommended a lot at anythingbutipod, and also I think it's still available for sale (as far as I know)
20:02:32amiconnHmm, nobody seems to have noticed the stream stopped? o.O
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20:12:56webguest19Hi, isthere anyone here that can help a dim person to manyaly install RB on my sansa clip?
20:13:23webguest19I have no idea on how Terminal works.
20:14:03webguest19So when it says, "locate rbinstall folder" I cant figure out how to do that?
20:14:07GodEaterwhy manually?
20:14:15GodEaterwhy not just use RBUtil?
20:14:26webguest19Dos-nt work.
20:14:34GodEaterwe beg to differ
20:14:43webguest19An, article in the Forum told me to
20:14:51AlexPwhat forum?
20:15:48AlexPoh, you need the newer bootloader then
20:15:51bertrikhm, there's a newer version of the OF now?
20:16:15AlexPWhich step in the manual instructions in the manual is giving you problems?
20:16:23webguest19The terminal part.
20:16:49GodEatercould you be less vague?
20:16:49AlexPIn what way? That isn't very specific
20:16:52webguest19Have never used teminal. So to locate something for me was not as intuitive as I thought it would
20:17:04b1uebrotherwhich OS?
20:17:11webguest19Terminal = OSx
20:17:29b1uebrotherok. Thought that but it's always better to ask :)
20:17:39b1uebrotherwhere did you store the downloaded files?
20:17:49amiconnSVN bootloader is working fine on X5 as well as M3
20:18:13*amiconn will look into fs #5289
20:18:55webguest19I stored them both at my user folder and at the "Macintosh HD" root. Since I was unshure what "home-folder" ment
20:19:51b1uebrotherin Terminal, the home folder is /Users/webguest19
20:19:56b1uebrotherassuming your username is webguest19
20:20:46webguest19Hm.. I found out how to locat it, but now it says Permission denied.
20:22:32webguest19How do I give myself premition?
20:22:54b1uebrotherwhat are you trying to execute?
20:23:02b1uebrotheryou've downloaded sansapatcher.dmg, right?
20:23:23b1uebrotherthen double click it in Finder so it gets opened.
20:23:37b1uebrotherthen you should be able to run sansapatcher as /Volumes/sansapatcher/sansapatcher
20:23:47b1uebrother(sorry, can't verify right now, Mac not in reach)
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20:24:43bertrikthe sansa forums don't show the 01.02.16 version for the clip+ yet
20:25:39bertrikI wonder why they issued an updated, I hope it's a regular bugfix, not introducing support for some kind of new hardware feature or configuration
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20:28:26webguest19hm... I downloaded the mkamboot and ran the dmg and opened ran the file. The it said [process completed]
20:29:11b1uebrotherwebguest19: ah, sorry, my bad. You don't need sansapatcher. Mixed it up with the other devices :o
20:29:25b1uebrotheryou need to start Terminal itself first.
20:29:39b1uebrotherGo to Applications / Utilities / Terminal in the Dock
20:29:46b1uebrotherthen Terminal itself will start up
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20:43:54*beve_ is impressed by the work done by the rockbox contributors, downloaded svn, after 20mins cross compiling environnement ok, custom build for sansa clip+ working and device flashed and working with last svn version
20:44:25beve_simply awesome
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20:44:48amiconnThe stream should be working again now
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20:44:54bertrikbeve, nice eh?
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20:45:23*amiconn doesn't know whether the webcam driver or the flash plugin was at fault
20:45:25beveyes, definitely
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20:50:29Zagorhmm, I want to move to a single command line for rockbuild. but then how to do with make -jN ?
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20:50:36B4gderZagor: what's the problem with -j?
20:50:58Zagorwell, each client defines/knows how many cores it has so it wants to pass N to make
20:51:34*b1uebrother is going to commit FS #12097 soonish −− any final objections?
20:51:35bluebrother-bot Android: headphone detection (enabling pause on unplug) (patches, new)
20:51:40Zagorbut if we define the full command line on the server (i.e. "configure && make zip") then inserting -jN is non-obvious
20:52:39Zagortoday we basically have two command lines: 1) configure parameters and 2) make targets. and the client constructs the command lines from that.
20:52:46Zagorbut that's very rockbox specific
20:53:24b1uebrotherZagor: can't you just pass an array of commands to run?
20:53:42Zagorb1uebrother: same problem. where should the client inject "-jN" ?
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20:54:01b1uebrotherhmm. Maybe some template system?
20:54:09Zagors/make /make -jN / would work in most cases I guess
20:54:18GodEatercan't we just use "make -j" and leave out the N ?
20:54:18b1uebrotherlike "make $MAKEOPTS$ zip"?
20:54:35ZagorGodEater: no, that's disaster for low-mem clients on complex builds
20:54:40bertrikisn't make -j basically equivalent to make -j<infinity> ?
20:54:45Zagorbertrik: ye
20:54:50B4gderit is, if the build is made like that
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20:54:54*b1uebrother managed to make his netbook unusable by using make -j some time ago
20:55:03b1uebrotherwell, until the next reboot of course :)
20:55:26Zagorb1uebrother: right, a variable like that should to do it
20:55:53CIA-58New commit by bluebrother (r29954): Center Rockbox logo when smaller than the screen size.
20:56:09*b1uebrother would like to see the manual in the build system
20:56:34b1uebrothertime to look at that LaTeX error thing again
20:58:54CIA-58r29954 build result: All green
21:02:03pixelmarasher: around? Or anyone else knowing langtool?
21:02:22rasherpixelma: Maybe
21:02:49pixelmarasher: nice
21:03:27rasherZagor: Wait, MAKEOPTS already exists and works... Well, maybe I should read back and trying to see what problem you're solving I guess :)
21:04:18rasherAs in, if MAKEOPTS is set, make will read it and apply them, no hacking needed
21:04:35pixelmaI made a patch ages ago updating a features line for all languages at that time with langtool. Is there a simple way to find out or just run it again to update it for languages that were added later or got the string added?
21:04:43Zagoryes, but I only want -jN on builds marked multithread safe
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21:04:55pixelmaupdate it = the patch
21:05:06rasherZagor: so MAKEOPTS= make for builds which aren't?
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21:05:24rasheror even -j1
21:05:45rasherWhy are there multithread-unsafe builds anyway!
21:06:26rasherpixelma: not quite sure I understand the question. Can't you just run it on the new languages?
21:07:13pixelmathing is that I don't know for sure if there were new languages or that string added to other languages later
21:09:06rasherpixelma: hm actually, running it again shouldn't hurt, because it only checks for exact matches for the old target-value
21:09:14Zagorrasher: because make builds thread safe is not obvious unless you think about it. all rockbox builds are multithread safe, but only because we've put in some effort to make them so
21:09:40pixelmarasher: oh ok, I'll try (have to look up the exact use)
21:10:07B4gderwith the discussions being done, maybe... it.... is... time... fooooorr....
21:10:34rasherZagor: oh is this for making the build system a more general use thing?
21:10:55Zagorrasher: yes
21:11:19rasherah, I guess some people will want that then
21:11:26rasherI still say they should fix their builds instead though :)
21:12:22amiconnHmm, the iaudio dualboot patch predates target tree
21:12:23Zagorit turns out there's quite a lot of interest in our build system from other projects
21:12:46amiconn(and the beginning of it is even pre-svn
21:12:52bertrikZagor, cool
21:13:37Cassandra2Gods - I would have thought it's so specific to Rockbox making it more generally useful would be an awful lot of work.
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21:13:50ZagorCassandra2: it's not so bad, actually
21:14:40Zagorwe're basically doing configure && make in a lot of different combinations. and that's the same thing most other projects do too.
21:17:08CIA-58New commit by amiconn (r29955): iAudio boot: Unify common macro values
21:17:49CIA-58New commit by bluebrother (r29956): Android: implement headphone detection thus enabling pause on unplug (FS #12097). ...
21:17:49bluebrother-bot Android: headphone detection (enabling pause on unplug) (patches, new)
21:17:53CIA-58New commit by bluebrother (r29957): Android: listen to ACTION_AUDIO_BECOMING_NOISY for headphone (FS #12097). ...
21:17:54bluebrother-bot Android: headphone detection (enabling pause on unplug) (patches, closed)
21:18:18rasherwell that's noisy..
21:18:54rasherbluebroth3r: Maybe your bot should ignore CIA..
21:20:06bertrikdid anyone bring an ipod accessory to devcon?
21:20:14CIA-58r29955 build result: All green
21:20:16ZagorFS #12097 ?
21:20:16bluebrother-bot Android: headphone detection (enabling pause on unplug) (patches, closed)
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21:22:14amiconnHmm, not pre target tree, just not yet in there
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21:22:46b1uebrotherrasher: I was thinking about that but unsure which way to go
21:22:54b1uebrotherZagor: hmm?
21:23:19CIA-58r29957 build result: All green
21:23:31rasherb1uebrother: if a task is mentioned in a commit message, I'd hope the rest of the message include an explanation
21:24:08Zagorb1uebrother: I just wasn't aware the bot reacts to random mentions.
21:24:26ZagorI agree with rasher you should probably filter out messages from CIA-*
21:24:31b1uebrotherZagor: ah, ok.
21:24:54b1uebrothermaybe we should discuss if we want such a bot at all and what exactly it should do :)
21:25:14b1uebrothersince the current one is rather ugly and was merely a test to see how hard it is to write one ;-)
21:25:17gevaertsb1uebrother: we did discuss enough for today already!
21:25:37rasherprotip: hostmask matching in python can be outsourced to fnmatch.fnmatch
21:25:55b1uebrothergevaerts: we can safely spare that for tomorrow!
21:26:42LinusNthe H120 svn bootloader works fine for me!
21:26:52b1uebrotherLinusN: \o/
21:27:06bertrikso it broke and then spontaneously unbroke itself?
21:27:15LinusNwas it ever broken?
21:27:21bertrikI don't know
21:27:28*rasher remembers unknowingly testing the svn bootloader without realising the dangers
21:27:32rasher(it worked)
21:27:42LinusNword is that the h300 bootloader is in a worse state
21:28:32B4gderit struck me that with git we should adopt a slightly different commit message style
21:30:28b1uebrotherwouldn't that be good anyway?
21:30:52bertrikwhat needs to change with git?
21:31:32B4gderit benefits from messages in the style [50 letter summary] [newline][newline][long description]
21:32:23B4gdermakes git shortlog and git blame etc nicer
21:33:05CIA-58New commit by pixelma (r29958): Languages: make the Clip+ use the microSD specific string to refer to the external card instead of only the general multivolume fallback.
21:33:42b1uebrotherB4gder: that makes the svn log of TortoiseSVN nicer as well!
21:36:19CIA-58r29958 build result: All green
21:36:39kugel[Saint]: ping
21:37:00Zagorb1uebrother: tortoiseSVN for git? :)
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21:39:11b1uebrotherZagor: :o
21:39:25pixelmaLinusN: wasn't there some issue with petur's H100 and the bootloader?
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21:43:10LinusNpixelma: no, with his h380
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21:43:56pixelmaah, got it confused then
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22:03:34saratogaBertrik: seen FS #12147?
22:03:35bluebrother-bot Assigns bigger IRAM for libtremor (patches, unconfirmed)
22:04:00saratogai'm confused why he sees a speed up, as I recall the Clip+ runs all codecs from IRAM
22:04:28bertriksaratoga, I'm not so familiar with the memory layout on AMS and AMSv2 anymore
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22:07:41saratogabertrik: yeah I just checked, the entire codec is in IRAM always
22:10:36b1uebrotherkugel: I can set the timestamp of arbitraryFile to the same of Works for me.
22:10:44kugelso, didn't we plan for doing something this evening in the first discussion round?
22:11:18kugelb1uebrother: nice
22:13:05b1uebrotherdoing something? Like building a tower?
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22:18:16CIA-58New commit by bertrik (r29959): FS #12094 - RDA5802 tuner: clean up register 0x4 handling, drop implicitly enabled soft-mute by Stephan Grossklass and me
22:18:17bluebrother-bot RDA5802 tuner: clean up register 0x4 handling, drop implicitly enabled soft-mute (patches, unconfirmed)
22:18:37kugelI think it had to do with android or the build system (or both)
22:21:03CIA-58r29959 build result: All green
22:23:14bertrikI'll go after the 01.02.16 clip+ firmware and check if can be patched safely
22:23:55B4gderif there's any devcon attendee interested, I'm giving away a Recorder, an X5, a sandisk m200 and a jtag-soldered sansa e200 board
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22:24:58b1uebrotherB4gder: you're stopping working on Rockbox?
22:25:24B4gderthese are devices I haven't touched in years
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22:31:12CIA-58New commit by bluebrother (r29960): Move various logo files to a single location. ...
22:34:19CIA-58r29960 build result: All green
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22:39:57CIA-58New commit by kugel (r29961): Hopefully FS #12064 - Android: Possible fix for audio stopping on high CPU load. ...
22:39:58bluebrother-bot Android: Possible fix for audio stopping on high CPU load (patches, new)
22:42:28gevaertsFor the record, B4gder's jtagged e200 works :)
22:42:48B4gdernow running 3.8.1!
22:43:18CIA-58r29961 build result: All green
22:45:43*b1uebrother goes closing some tasks
22:45:48b1uebrotherkugel: yay!
22:46:21b1uebrothermight be interesting if it fixes the issue for GodEater
22:46:29bertrikbah, the sansa updater isn't offering the clip+ 1.02.16 firmware update
22:47:37kugelGodEater: ping :)
22:51:04b1uebrotherbertrik: is that not available as zip on the sandisk website?
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22:51:30bertrikbluebroth3r, I think sandisk wants you to use the upgrader
22:54:21bertrikI tried modifying the direct link for 1.02.15 but it doesn't work unfortunately. I read in one post that someone got this firmware pre-installed on a new clip+
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22:59:14bertrikok, so much for trying that ..
23:05:24B4gderkugel: can I suggest we close FS #11234 and open up specific tasks instead of there are remaining things?
23:05:25bluebrother-bot Rockbox as an Application (patches, new)
23:06:09kugelB4gder: good idea :)
23:14:05gevaertsLinusN: while you're working on h100 bootloaders, any opinion on FS #3039 ?
23:14:06bluebrother-bot iriver battery safe bootloader (patches, new)
23:14:33kugelGodEater: I tried to tell you multiple times but you didn't seem to listen :) I think random stops are possibly a different problem. the task was about (more or less) reproducable stops when high cpu load occurs
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23:15:02pixelmawasn't there also something about battery charging animation?
23:15:15pixelmain the Iriver bootloaders that was
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23:17:09LinusNpixelma: yes, but we ditched that idea
23:18:17pixelmais there not enough space for it? Just asking because I think I remember a discussion with wodz who wanted (or actually did) something like this for the MPIOs
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23:18:58Zagorcan anyone think of a case where the "result" file and the "upload" file are different? (the "result" output file is what is checked for build success)
23:19:26Zagorwe currently specify both, but I can't think of a case where that's needed
23:19:40wodzyes, I made some time ago the bootloader with "charging" animation for HD200 but the graphic itself was not perfect
23:19:48b1uebrotherZagor: you could pre-parse the result before uploading, f.e. for LaTeX logs which can become quite large
23:20:02b1uebrotherso it _might_ make sense to use that. No idea if it's actually necessary though
23:20:22LinusNgevaerts: wow, that patch is ooooooold
23:20:45bertrikdoes it still apply?
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23:21:04LinusNbertrik: nope, not even close
23:21:29Zagorb1uebrother: nah, the clients don't parse the result. that is for the server.
23:22:50GodEaterkugel: sorry - hard to listen whilst I'm testing out listening to music to see if it stops ;)
23:23:18kugelyou listened to gevaerts ;)
23:23:26GodEaterI did?
23:23:29GodEaterwhat was he telling me?
23:23:37gevaertsLinusN: but does it work? :)
23:23:46kugelI don't know either :P
23:25:17*bertrik wonders if git can magically merge that
23:25:39LinusNgevaerts: most of it is already implemented in svn
23:26:06bertrikoh, this is a patch from back when we used *cvs*
23:26:17gevaertsLinusN: too late anyway, b1uebrother just closed it :)
23:26:47B4gderwho can close the most bug or patch entries before midnight?
23:28:34*Zagor starts writing a perl scripts
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23:38:28wodzsince we have M3 here it may be interesting to look at FS #12026
23:38:29bluebrother-bot iaudio m3: display/screen goes blank after a while and never recovers (bugs, unconfirmed)
23:39:44peturrasher: ping
23:41:08rasherpetur: pong
23:42:06peturif I would change the name of a LANG ID in all lang files and code, would that break any of your scripts?
23:42:09wodzpixelma or amiconn : ^^^
23:42:45amiconnDoesn't happen for me... :\
23:43:03amiconn(not that I'm using the M3 much, but I tried it some time ago)
23:43:11rasherpetur: I don't see any reason why it would. I'm not sure what the implications are for lang files. I *think* it shouldn't make any difference
23:43:21rasherI think Bagder is the real authority on that part
23:43:22wodzso we should close this probably
23:43:34B4gderpetur: I think its fine, I can't think of any problems with that
23:43:49*b1uebrother just rejected a patch with the comment "no realname"
23:44:05amiconnThis is most probably a problem with transfer speed, but (a) I have no idea how much to lower it in order to make it work for the problematic devices and (b) lowering transfer speed is not that good an idea
23:44:38wodzso let's close this as non reproducible
23:44:59bertrikCan you measure the transfer speed somehow?
23:45:08amiconnAn possible alternative would to just reinit the lcd every so often
23:46:25b1uebrotherJdGordon: ping
23:46:26pixelmawodz: I didn't have a remote for my M5 until... yesterday and haven't seen it either in my short tests
23:46:44pixelmabut I believe there were reports like this every now and then :\
23:46:47b1uebrotherJdGordon: FS #9514 is outdated, isn't it?
23:46:47bluebrother-bot make simple list accept a viewport (patches, new)
23:48:38Zagoris there any way to list (with a command-line tool) which android sdk version(s) you have installed?
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23:50:16Zagorhmm, "android list target" seems to do it
23:50:42b1uebrotherZagor: just wanted to mention that :)
23:51:08ZagorThe "API level field is nice": 7,8,9,10,Honeycomb,11...
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