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| 00:46:26 | sideral | gevaerts: Thanks for responding. Yes, it seems like freqmod is the original author. I'll attempt to verify with him. |
| 00:47:32 | sideral | Looks like storebror-daniel again has problems building the simulator |
| 00:48:54 | CIA-58 | New commit by sideral (r29978): FS #12132 patch 2: add_uniqbuf: Fix confusing indentation in if condition |
| 00:48:55 | bluebrother-bot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12132 tagnavi: Support "basename" in formats and conditions; replace <Untagged> in track views (patches, new) |
| 00:48:59 | CIA-58 | New commit by sideral (r29979): FS #12132 patch 3: Rename read_numeric_tag to find_tag, as it is indeed ... |
| 00:49:00 | bluebrother-bot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12132 tagnavi: Support "basename" in formats and conditions; replace <Untagged> in track views (patches, new) |
| 00:49:03 | CIA-58 | New commit by sideral (r29980): FS #12132 patch 4: Added a comment for the tagcache_search.type field. |
| 00:49:04 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK bluebrother-bot |
| 00:49:04 | bluebrother-bot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12132 tagnavi: Support "basename" in formats and conditions; replace <Untagged> in track views (patches, new) |
| 00:49:11 | CIA-58 | New commit by sideral (r29981): FS #12132 patch 5: check_clauses: Optimizations. ... |
| 00:49:12 | bluebrother-bot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12132 tagnavi: Support "basename" in formats and conditions; replace <Untagged> in track views (patches, new) |
| 00:53:51 | CIA-58 | r29978 build result: 4 errors, 8 warnings (sideral committed) |
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| 00:55:27 | sideral | Interesting, more unused-but-set variables. Not by me, alas ;) |
| 00:57:02 | sideral | And storebror-daniel causing more problems |
| 00:57:58 | CIA-58 | r29981 build result: 8 errors, 0 warnings (sideral committed) |
| 00:58:38 | sideral | same thing |
| 00:59:29 | sideral | Zagor: http://build.rockbox.org/dev.cgi doesn't report binsize diffs any more |
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| 01:03:33 | CIA-58 | New commit by sideral (r29982): FS #12107: Remove track-number guessing code. |
| 01:03:34 | bluebrother-bot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12107 Remove track-number generation heuristic from database (patches, new) |
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| 01:07:40 | CIA-58 | r29982 build result: 4 errors, 0 warnings (sideral committed) |
| 01:08:05 | sideral | storebror-daniel strikes again |
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| 01:36:19 | JdGordon | jhMikeS: \o/ coooool! |
| 01:36:19 | jhMikeS | PCM mixer is ready for an actual task: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12150 |
| 01:36:31 | jhMikeS | heh, you got there already :) |
| 01:37:47 | JdGordon | only read the description |
| 01:37:50 | JdGordon | very cool indeed |
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| 01:44:15 | jhMikeS | needless features! :) |
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| 02:27:11 | gartral | i have a small bug, sansa e250 r29969 from site: system will report "too low to boot" battery status at aound %5-%6 left.. tht's about 30 minutes of music i'm out.. |
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| 03:12:11 | JdGordon | Torne: as annoying as it could be, I tihnk we should require reviews before anything can be pushed |
| 03:12:32 | JdGordon | even if it is only 1 other commiter reviewing |
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| 03:21:19 | JdGordon | sideral: n1s: AlexP: amiconn: per dir config I tihnk only makes sense in a "dirplay" playlist. it would be insane to do in a regular playlist because of the problem with needing to undo changes between track changes. Also how would it make sense for DB users? |
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| 04:14:03 | [Saint] | Is it known that there aren't voicefiles being built? |
| 04:14:27 | [Saint] | I thought it was RBUtil being an ass...but it seems they're not actually there. |
| 04:16:01 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 04:16:01 | * | [Saint] wonders who's domain that is...or who to bug. |
| 04:18:14 | [Saint] | trying to use RBUtil to download a voicefile results in a 404, and, interestingly on My N2Gs trying to build a voicefile results in the Nano disconnecting halfway through the decoding and freezing in some weird state where it won't even respond to the HW poweroff (long play). |
| 04:23:27 | JdGordon | rbutil is bluebrother mostly |
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| 04:27:19 | [Saint] | Yeah, that much I know...it's the build system that's my immediate concern. |
| 04:27:31 | [Saint] | Though I suspect that might be related to the recent changes. |
| 04:27:55 | [Saint] | Just wasn't sure if it's a known thing or not. |
| 04:27:56 | JdGordon | the buildsystem builds voices? |
| 04:28:19 | [Saint] | Yeah. It....*should* do. |
| 04:28:50 | [Saint] | There should be voice dailies available. |
| 04:29:48 | [Saint] | JdGordon: http://www.rockbox.org/dl.cgi?bin=ipodnano2g for instance. |
| 04:30:04 | [Saint] | "voice" == "absent". |
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| 04:48:45 | jhMikeS | JdGordon: Mr. Someone should test that patch eh? |
| 04:49:45 | JdGordon | nono |
| 04:49:53 | JdGordon | Mr Someone is a doer, not a tester |
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| 04:51:38 | jhMikeS | mr. someone does verb things |
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| 05:05:04 | JdGordon | whats the ram usage change with the patch? |
| 05:05:23 | jhMikeS | a few KB |
| 05:05:26 | JdGordon | and how many streams can be mixed? |
| 05:05:57 | jhMikeS | no limit per se but at most 3 are defined right now. if you want more, just add another channel assignment |
| 05:06:24 | JdGordon | cool |
| 05:06:50 | jhMikeS | it's about as general purpose as it could be |
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| 05:12:30 | jhMikeS | I was just about to mess around with metronome playing while music going as an experiment |
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| 05:24:06 | jhMikeS | gagibyte? |
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| 06:07:12 | jhMikeS | well, it works nicely, playing metronome with music...but sounds a bit off tempo :) |
| 06:09:09 | jhMikeS | and that's because prerecorded bands don't obey the new click track |
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| 06:32:28 | * | [Saint] wonders about FS #12150 .... |
| 06:32:29 | bluebrother-bot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12150 Fully-functional audio mixer (patches, new) |
| 06:32:36 | [Saint] | "fully functional"? |
| 06:32:42 | [Saint] | Commit the bastard then! ;) |
| 06:32:48 | jhMikeS | as I told Jd, just like Data |
| 06:33:18 | jhMikeS | if I do that so quickly, I often receive ire |
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| 06:36:13 | [Saint] | well...I'll chuck it at my tree and hope it doesn't bounce off any of my local changes...then I'll comment on the task after some stress testing. |
| 06:36:45 | jhMikeS | probably should check android if PCM there has been so iffy (but I did notice r29963) |
| 06:38:10 | [Saint] | until that commit I waas running the V2 of the patch that commit related too...prior to that commit playback with clean svn was a nightmare. |
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| 06:38:49 | [Saint] | locking up/stopping/freezing the UI on heavy seeking and/or track skip. |
| 06:39:01 | [Saint] | But current svn is fine for my handset now though. |
| 06:40:55 | [Saint] | Oh...whoops, it was r29961 I was thinking about. |
| 06:41:26 | [Saint] | I didn't notice a difference myself with r29963 |
| 06:43:30 | jhMikeS | heck of a latency on that (32k) |
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| 06:47:26 | [Saint] | JdGordon: Have you noticed that "Current Playlist Screen" and "Pitchscreen" don't display the correct values for %cs? |
| 06:47:47 | [Saint] | (all the other conditions do, though) |
| 06:48:08 | JdGordon | no? |
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| 06:48:44 | [Saint] | current playlist displays the main menu case, pitchscreen gets nothing. |
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| 06:48:57 | JdGordon | file a bug, or better yet add the 2 lines that are needed :) |
| 06:49:16 | JdGordon | push_current_Activity(ACTIVITY_PITCHSCREEN); and pop_current_activity(); in pitchscreen.c somewhere |
| 06:49:38 | * | [Saint] feels like digging through his logs ;) |
| 06:49:50 | [Saint] | I *distinctly* remember you saying you tested thing :P |
| 06:49:58 | JdGordon | yeah, i remember adding it |
| 06:50:02 | [Saint] | *s/thing/this/ |
| 06:50:13 | JdGordon | must have got lost in the git-svn-git-shenanigans here |
| 06:50:23 | JdGordon | it is seriously 4 lines of code to add :) |
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| 06:52:02 | JdGordon | file a bug or a patch :) I'm AFK till thursday evening (or will be after 4pm here) |
| 06:52:57 | [Saint] | Ok, will do. I'll at least attempt the latter. I'll see if I can't poke it into life in my tree. |
| 06:53:31 | JdGordon | root_menu.c is where the playlist viewer part goes |
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| 09:28:37 | n1s | any comments on moving sscanf to the pluginlib and committing FS #12144 ? |
| 09:28:37 | bluebrother-bot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12144 Use -fPIC -fvisibility=hidden for 32 bit x86 builds too to fix link errors. (patches, new) |
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| 10:10:08 | n1s | hmm, this can probably be fixed without moving sscanf.c if i can get some help with makefile voodoo |
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| 10:15:25 | GodEater | B4gder: what's the plan for the git transfer? Torne seems to be working on a plan, but is server access still going to be you scandic fellows only? So you want some sort of documented process to follow, or what? |
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| 10:17:24 | B4gder | good question, I figure we need to make sure that committers can push to the repo, as then we can just make a fresh svn2git conversion and go live |
| 10:18:36 | GodEater | I think it would be nice if we could get the gerrit install done at the same time |
| 10:18:59 | B4gder | true |
| 10:19:00 | GodEater | then we can test to see if commiters can push directly through that |
| 10:19:18 | GodEater | and patch authors can push to the code review queue on it |
| 10:19:37 | GodEater | (long time patch authors, I think we agree that hit-n-run patchers still just submit via email?) |
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| 10:27:47 | n1s | ah, fixed the sscanf problem by adding it to the plugins' SOURCES |
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| 10:30:53 | sideral | B4gder: please don't create a new svn2git conversion, this will break all repos cloned from the existing git repo |
| 10:31:34 | B4gder | but the current one doesn't have correct authors, does it? |
| 10:32:10 | kugel | sideral: it's better since (assuming it's doing fast-import) handling names better |
| 10:32:23 | sideral | I don't think that's a big deal. It has unique <username@hash> authors |
| 10:32:36 | B4gder | I think we should do it right |
| 10:32:53 | kugel | the converson will make that "Real Name <real@email.com>" though |
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| 10:33:23 | kugel | which is way nicer |
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| 10:33:38 | B4gder | indeed |
| 10:33:44 | B4gder | and what I consider to be "right" |
| 10:35:22 | sideral | hmm... perhaps we can provide a way to rewrite (filter-branch) existing git repos to conform to the new standand so that people don't have to port over their branches manually |
| 10:35:56 | bluebrother | shouldn't that be possible by exporting them as patches and reimporting them again? |
| 10:36:10 | B4gder | sideral: is that really such a big problem and if so why? |
| 10:36:26 | sideral | I don't know what your git repos look like, but I have 30+ feature branches |
| 10:36:37 | kugel | bluebrother: git format-patch/am should work fine |
| 10:37:49 | sideral | kugel: I'd prefer an automated process. If this is not a problem for you guys, I can perhaps roll my own though. |
| 10:38:22 | kugel | it should be doable in a script. please upload it somewhere if you make one :) |
| 10:40:39 | sideral | Anyway, I think I'd prefer compatibility with existing git repos people already host publicly on github & friends over a clean start. |
| 10:41:14 | sideral | But I don't want to block anyone doing the hard part of the switching work |
| 10:41:24 | sideral | So consider it moot |
| 10:41:39 | * | bluebrother definitely prefers a clean start |
| 10:42:10 | kugel | git branch returns 45 lines for me, so it'll be a slight PITA for me too :) I still prefer a proper conversion |
| 10:43:31 | bluebrother | if using git format-patch and git am works, what's the problem? You just need to recreate the branches in the new repository and git am the correct patches on it |
| 10:43:46 | bluebrother | (never tried if git am checked for the repo by some hashes or so) |
| 10:43:55 | sideral | It's no so simple, because t |
| 10:44:08 | sideral | each branch wants to be applied at a certain staring point |
| 10:44:28 | sideral | just branching freshly from HEAD won't cut it |
| 10:44:57 | sideral | I think I'll look into a script doing a "git filter-branch" once the repo structure is known |
| 10:45:07 | kugel | it's not a necessity, though |
| 10:45:10 | bluebrother | that raises the question if we will keep the svn revision info in the commit messages. If so finding the correct starting point shouldn't be that hard. |
| 10:45:38 | bluebrother | and it might be a good reason to rebase all your branches :) |
| 10:45:40 | kugel | bluebrother: I don't think we want that :) |
| 10:45:54 | sideral | You're assuming a largely tree-ish branching structure. But there are merges as well ;) |
| 10:46:11 | [Saint] | all your rebase are belong to git |
| 10:46:57 | [Saint] | whoopsie. lets pretend that was in *-community. :/ |
| 10:47:12 | bluebrother | if old branches are already merged then there is no real need to move them to the new repository :) |
| 10:47:18 | * | kugel will probably just convert the 3-4 branches that actually matter right now, not all the legacy ones that I don't work on anymore |
| 10:47:22 | sideral | bluebrother: To your point: I think we need to preserve the SVN rev numbers for historical reference, if only as git tags |
| 10:47:42 | kugel | and leave the old clone on disk, of course |
| 10:48:21 | bluebrother | same here |
| 10:50:36 | sideral | If I have to cut a new repo, we might as well switch to Mercurial!!1! |
| 10:50:39 | * | sideral ducks |
| 10:51:01 | B4gder | we had a vote... |
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| 10:54:56 | kugel | "I think we need to preserve the SVN rev numbers for historical reference, if only as git tags |
| 10:55:06 | kugel | "^ I think that's a good point |
| 10:55:07 | bluebrother | we didn't vote on that! |
| 10:55:32 | kugel | but not tags, please :) |
| 10:56:02 | B4gder | if not tags, how? |
| 10:56:39 | bluebrother | in the commit message as git-svn does? |
| 10:56:57 | bluebrother | having 30k tags would be really annoying |
| 10:57:28 | kugel | or some external tool |
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| 11:02:13 | kugel | perhaps export the svn<->git mapping to some file and use an external tool for the historical reference |
| 11:06:33 | kugel | btw, 'git log −−pretty=oneline | wc -l' might be sufficient to get an increasing linear version number for current builds |
| 11:07:06 | sideral | sounds pretty expensive |
| 11:07:20 | B4gder | but slightly annoying to convert back to an exact revision |
| 11:09:28 | kugel | I'm not talking about svn revs for historical reference now. for the future, didn't we want to have an increasing number for the builds (to say "ah the build is about X old"). we append the exact revision to that number like we do now |
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| 11:09:37 | sideral | B4gder: Did you notice that storebror-daniel had issues again last night? |
| 11:09:53 | B4gder | still the 32bit sim crap, was it |
| 11:09:55 | B4gder | ? |
| 11:10:01 | sideral | right |
| 11:10:25 | kugel | (yes, it's not sufficient to get the exact revision alone, so not usable for historical svn rev reference) |
| 11:11:19 | n1s | B4gder: i made a patch to fix that in FS #12144 |
| 11:11:20 | bluebrother-bot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12144 Use -fPIC -fvisibility=hidden for 32 bit x86 builds too to fix link errors. (patches, new) |
| 11:11:36 | B4gder | kugel: right, but I'm thinking when user say "I'm running rev N" and you want to run exactly that to test it, or just diff against that compared to HEAD |
| 11:12:24 | kugel | we want that for pre-git-conversion revisions yes. but also for post-git-revisions? |
| 11:12:38 | kugel | post-git-conversion revisions |
| 11:12:48 | kugel | we can ask for the hash after the conversion |
| 11:12:54 | B4gder | well, for pre-git we want the exact svn rev and not an approximation methinks |
| 11:13:03 | GodEater | indeed |
| 11:13:35 | kugel | well, that's what I said |
| 11:13:52 | B4gder | it was? then what would wc -l before? |
| 11:13:52 | kugel | but we don't need to maintain that historical mapping for the future |
| 11:14:02 | B4gder | "be for" even |
| 11:14:17 | kugel | for the post-conversion era |
| 11:14:18 | Torne | re hosting git.. gerrit is itself a git host |
| 11:14:51 | Torne | so if we are going to use that we don't need a git host set up |
| 11:14:56 | Torne | well possibly a read only anonymous one |
| 11:15:50 | GodEater | does using gerrit as the host make the svn import harder? |
| 11:15:55 | Torne | but gerrit handles authenticated git over ssh and also handles both anonymous and authenticated access over http |
| 11:16:03 | kugel | B4gder: after the conversion we only need an approximation, don't we? |
| 11:16:06 | Torne | nope, gerrit just uses standard git repos |
| 11:16:15 | GodEater | cool |
| 11:16:17 | Torne | you would convert the repo first |
| 11:16:24 | Torne | and then just fire up gerrit on top of the converted history |
| 11:16:57 | B4gder | kugel: that's being debated, I vote for using "git describe −−tags" output in general |
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| 11:17:09 | Torne | B4gder: yes, describe output is way better than counting commits |
| 11:17:24 | kugel | I don't want a tag for each commit |
| 11:17:32 | Torne | you don't have to make a tag for each commit. |
| 11:17:43 | B4gder | kugel: did you try the command? |
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| 11:18:49 | kugel | yes |
| 11:18:58 | Torne | B4gder: if you can get me a copy of the svn repo i can experiment with conversion options |
| 11:19:25 | kugel | B4gder: you mean this for the post-conversion era? |
| 11:19:30 | B4gder | yes |
| 11:20:07 | kugel | will that work for master? we tag from the 3.X branch |
| 11:21:06 | B4gder | Torne: making a tarball... |
| 11:21:11 | Torne | kugel: you tag the branch point |
| 11:21:46 | Torne | kugel: the only slightly confusing result will be that 3.8+foo is not beween 3.8 and 3.8.1 |
| 11:22:00 | Torne | or similar. |
| 11:22:12 | Torne | It can be worked out, anyway |
| 11:22:32 | kugel | do we want references to the last release in master? |
| 11:22:43 | Torne | kugel: the tag needn't literally be "3.8" |
| 11:22:59 | kugel | sure |
| 11:22:59 | Torne | we could always have codenames :) |
| 11:23:13 | Torne | ledpig+535 |
| 11:23:14 | Torne | :) |
| 11:24:15 | Torne | B4gder: cheers. I will have a fiddle with it this evening. |
| 11:24:35 | GodEater | that sounds wrong |
| 11:24:50 | GodEater | don't intefere with it in an unnatural way ;) |
| 11:24:59 | Torne | B4gder: in terms of hosting the post-conversion git repo.. gerrit is java but has no special dependencies, and will want to listen on two ports, one for http and one for ssh+git |
| 11:25:08 | Torne | ideally the http one would be on port 80 |
| 11:25:13 | Torne | to preserve access for firewalled folks |
| 11:25:24 | kugel | isn't git describe essentially commit counting with nicer output? |
| 11:25:33 | gevaerts | Torne: can it handle reverse proxying? |
| 11:25:35 | Torne | gevaerts: yes |
| 11:25:41 | Torne | for http. |
| 11:25:44 | B4gder | kugel: basically, yes |
| 11:25:45 | Torne | the ssh+git port needs to be real |
| 11:25:59 | Torne | kugel: nicer output and easier to reverse map |
| 11:26:21 | kugel | we could tag the very first commit and almost continue as before then :) |
| 11:26:35 | B4gder | kugel: it counts since the last tag |
| 11:26:52 | Torne | right, but his point is we needn't actually make any more tags on master :) |
| 11:26:59 | B4gder | right |
| 11:27:00 | Torne | we could tag some version as "git" or something |
| 11:27:08 | Torne | and then the versions would just be git+1 git+2 etc |
| 11:27:14 | kugel | the last reachable one, which means we need to make tags from master (somehow) for it to be useful |
| 11:29:04 | Torne | are people generally happt with the gerrit idea, btw? |
| 11:29:10 | Torne | i realise only a few people actually played witht he demo i had up |
| 11:29:18 | Torne | i can/will put that back up if desired |
| 11:29:40 | Torne | if nothing else it does have a nice interface for adding ssh keys and so on which just works fine for normal git pull/push :) |
| 11:30:16 | GodEater | As one of those who did play with the demo, I'd be keen to see us use it "properly" :) |
| 11:30:33 | Torne | GodEater: Well sure |
| 11:30:45 | Torne | I just mean, we don't have to require people post patches there |
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| 11:30:57 | Torne | and we certainly don't have to require that committers get stuff reviewed |
| 11:31:02 | Torne | we can change *policy* any time |
| 11:31:16 | Torne | the tool has a moderate amount of innate value anyway |
| 11:31:50 | Torne | and we have to use something to host it, since i doubt B4gder wants to give us all ssh accounts |
| 11:32:15 | B4gder | right, it would be convenient to have something that helps us take care of the auth part |
| 11:33:14 | Torne | yah. the "flow" for that with gerrit is you sign in with an openid from anywhere you feel like (e.g. google/yahoo/whatever) |
| 11:33:21 | Torne | then you set your real name and username |
| 11:33:27 | Torne | paste in an ssh key |
| 11:33:29 | Torne | and done |
| 11:33:37 | Torne | you can also have it generate you a password to push over authenticated http |
| 11:33:47 | GodEater | oooh |
| 11:33:50 | GodEater | open ID? |
| 11:33:51 | Torne | (you can't choose/change it, you have to go with the generated gibberish, but you just cache it locally) |
| 11:33:54 | Torne | Yah |
| 11:33:57 | GodEater | amiconn will bust a blood vessel |
| 11:34:04 | GodEater | :D |
| 11:34:15 | Torne | You can auth against something esle if you want |
| 11:34:21 | GodEater | phew :) |
| 11:34:23 | Torne | but openid is the only really sensible option for non-coporate deployments |
| 11:34:42 | Torne | basically all the other methods require that accounts be created somewhere else first |
| 11:34:45 | GodEater | I agree |
| 11:34:54 | Torne | which is a barrier to noncommitters signing up to upload patches. |
| 11:34:57 | GodEater | I'm just not sure our paranoid German friends will agree |
| 11:35:19 | Torne | heh |
| 11:35:51 | GodEater | did you tell amiconn his retinas were scanned as he entered the google office, and are now held in the cloud? :) |
| 11:35:58 | Torne | Oh, the othe rpart of the flow i didn't mentoin there is of course a gerrit admin would have to add committers to a committer group |
| 11:36:04 | Torne | since the idea is that anyone can register |
| 11:36:13 | Torne | but only committers have certain permissions ;) |
| 11:36:15 | Torne | but that's easy. |
| 11:37:20 | Torne | that's a lot less effort than actually creating accounts and setting passwords (as we do now for svn) and it's a *lot* less than having to update authorized_keys on someone else's behalf :) |
| 11:38:10 | GodEater | yeah. Easier == win |
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| 11:43:46 | kugelp | Torne: gerrit seems nice indeed. I don't see a reason to not try it, provided we can undo the gerrit stuff later |
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| 11:45:09 | Torne | yup, it writes teh repo to disk exactly as git does |
| 11:45:35 | Torne | dropping gerrit *might* abandon, hm, comments on code reviews and stuff. but i think even the patches in code reviews are in the repo |
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| 11:45:53 | Torne | and gerrit is in the process of moving basically all its metadata into the git repo anyway |
| 11:47:42 | GodEater | Do we have a 540x960 theme for RaaA yet? |
| 11:47:47 | * | GodEater pokes [Saint] |
| 11:48:01 | [Saint] | Nope. |
| 11:48:07 | GodEater | make it so |
| 11:48:15 | [Saint] | (also: My god that's a weird resolution) |
| 11:48:30 | B4gder | qHD, what lots of things come with now... |
| 11:49:08 | B4gder | where things are Android phones =) |
| 11:50:03 | [Saint] | GodEater: Firstly I need to a: Get a result that everyone is happy with... (not anywhere near as easy as I'd thought, and I thought it'd be a royal PITA ;)), and b: do the 340X480 port |
| 11:50:27 | [Saint] | then, iirc (mental ToDo list) I need to do 180X600 |
| 11:50:35 | [Saint] | *1280X600 |
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| 11:51:26 | * | [Saint] apparently needs an "RaaA theme wishlist" page ;D |
| 11:54:02 | GodEater | [Saint]: a) isn't ever going to happen |
| 11:54:03 | GodEater | :) |
| 11:54:16 | [Saint] | I guesse what I should *really* be doing in my spare time is creating a "mega resolution - master .svg" image package for cabbie, so future ports don't require me up-sizing/recreating from scratch every time. |
| 11:54:27 | GodEater | good plan |
| 11:54:45 | GodEater | 1920x1280 seems a good starting place |
| 11:54:48 | GodEater | :D |
| 11:55:17 | [Saint] | my end goal is to replace all svn cabbie images, if you look at the /wps/cabbiev2/ folder...the colouration is all over the place. |
| 11:55:29 | [Saint] | I'm colourblind, and I can see it, so it must be pretty bad. |
| 11:55:31 | kugelp | yea, one which allows for a 1920*1080 cabbie at least :-) |
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| 11:56:53 | [Saint] | kugelp: fullscreen desktop SDL apps? ;) |
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| 11:57:25 | kugelp | though there's a "mega resolution master. psd" on the wiki |
| 11:57:26 | GodEater | desktop schmektop - we want a tablet version! |
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| 11:58:36 | [Saint] | kugelp: that's not exactly "mega resolution" iirc. |
| 11:58:49 | [Saint] | I think the biggest images are "beast-sized". |
| 11:59:31 | [Saint] | (aslo, bleach!! .psd ;)) |
| 11:59:35 | [Saint] | *also |
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| 12:01:20 | GodEater | is headphone remote support for RaaA on the todo list somewhere too? |
| 12:01:51 | kugelp | have you looked at it? |
| 12:02:03 | GodEater | not recently :) |
| 12:02:13 | [Saint] | kugelp: Yeah, long time ago. |
| 12:02:13 | GodEater | I also don't have any headphones with a remote currently |
| 12:02:16 | [Saint] | oh, oops. |
| 12:02:37 | kugelp | its definitely much bigger than beast sized |
| 12:03:32 | [Saint] | Ah, Hmmm. Perhaps I'm thinking of another one then. I'm reasonable sure the one I have is built around 230X320-ish images. |
| 12:04:47 | [Saint] | I do have original source images from ZincAlloy sitting on my disk *somewhere*, I know that much. |
| 12:04:57 | [Saint] | (in .psd format) |
| 12:07:35 | kugelp | I think I scaled down by 1/2 or so for the 480*800 cabbie |
| 12:10:14 | [Saint] | Are you able to point me in the direction of the pack you're talking about? I'd like to check it out on the offchance it is indeed different from the one I have. |
| 12:24:07 | [Saint] | sideral: You about? |
| 12:24:19 | * | [Saint] wishes to talk Database with you. |
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| 12:33:15 | kugelp | [Saint]: its on the wiki. page DefaultWPS or so |
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| 13:16:44 | mc2739 | any forum admins available? media132011 needs to be banned |
| 13:22:38 | sideral | Saint: I'm back |
| 13:23:59 | sideral | Let's talk Database! |
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| 13:29:02 | [Saint] | I'm wondering for FS #12132 ...it's just 006 and 007 needed now, correct? the rest is commited. |
| 13:29:03 | bluebrother-bot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12132 tagnavi: Support "basename" in formats and conditions; replace <Untagged> in track views (patches, new) |
| 13:29:44 | sideral | right |
| 13:30:12 | [Saint] | Also, I'm wondering how hard it'd be for me to strip <all tracks>, <untagged> & co out of the db. |
| 13:30:26 | [Saint] | does that stuff "have" to live in there to any extent? |
| 13:30:42 | sideral | should be fairly easy, but I haven't looked into it yet |
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| 13:31:21 | [Saint] | Ah ;) The Database scares me, the brief look I've had at it. I was hoping you'd have a clue, no worries :D |
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| 13:32:37 | sideral | I think I saw some code that added these two special entries (and increased the entry count by 2) in tagtree.c |
| 13:33:58 | [Saint] | thanks, my "if all else fails" plan was to just grep for "<Untagged>" and hope. |
| 13:34:03 | [Saint] | ;) |
| 13:34:16 | sideral | Try this (untested): http://pastebin.com/75TfNGGP |
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| 13:40:33 | sideral | BTW Saint, I'd appreciate highly if you'd test the FS #12132 <http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12132> patches |
| 13:40:34 | bluebrother-bot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12132 tagnavi: Support "basename" in formats and conditions; replace <Untagged> in track views (patches, new) |
| 13:41:16 | sideral | Make sure you use the new version of 0006 posted in a later comment |
| 13:52:17 | * | n1s threatens to commit FS #12144 if noone opposes in the near future |
| 13:52:18 | bluebrother-bot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12144 Use -fPIC -fvisibility=hidden for 32 bit x86 builds too to fix link errors. (patches, new) |
| 13:53:42 | B4gder | n1s: go ahead, it makes things better |
| 13:54:06 | n1s | ok |
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| 13:56:28 | CIA-58 | New commit by nls (r29983): FS #12144, Use -fPIC -fvisibility=hidden only for plugins on sim and app builds and enable it for 32 bit too. Fixes linking errors on simbuilds. |
| 13:56:28 | bluebrother-bot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12144 Use -fPIC -fvisibility=hidden for 32 bit x86 builds too to fix link errors. (patches, new) |
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| 14:00:53 | CIA-58 | r29983 build result: All green |
| 14:01:02 | [Saint] | sideral: I assume to see the full effect (or any effect at all) of 12132 I'll need to remove "%format "fmt_title" "%s - %02d:%02d" filename Lm Ls ? title == "<Untagged>"" from my tagnavi_custom? |
| 14:01:33 | sideral | yep. patch 0007 makes that redundant |
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| 14:14:08 | * | [Saint] rediscovers the (now out of sync) patch at FS #11679 and wonders why it was never committed. |
| 14:14:09 | bluebrother-bot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11679 Remember last postion in the Settings menu. (patches, new) |
| 14:14:46 | [Saint] | I _think_ I have that synced up in a tree somewhere. It's an awesome addition. |
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| 14:15:07 | [Saint] | A bit "iPod-ish", but...I like it. |
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| 14:18:13 | GodEater | mc2739: banned |
| 14:25:42 | sideral | Saint: I gave that experimental patch (http://pastebin.com/75TfNGGP) a quick test run in a sim, and it seems to work for me |
| 14:26:33 | [Saint] | sideral: Oh cool, thanks. ;) |
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| 14:56:14 | kugelp | Torne: will developers have a space for their own remotes with gerrit? or is everyone supposed to open branches in the main repo? |
| 14:56:57 | Torne | there are however many repositories we feel like configuring |
| 14:57:08 | Torne | it doesn't give everyone one |
| 14:57:17 | Torne | but if someone wanted one they could hav eone, and be given permission to control it |
| 14:57:42 | Torne | the general idea is that there's not much need to do that, though |
| 14:57:51 | * | Torne shrugs. |
| 14:58:53 | kugelp | Torne: well, I need some place to put my random stuff to :) |
| 14:59:07 | Torne | do you, though? |
| 14:59:14 | Torne | what do you mean by random stuff. |
| 14:59:40 | sideral | kugel: Just use a private repo for this, such as github |
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| 15:00:16 | kugelp | sure, but I wondered if it was useful to have clones near the main repo |
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| 15:00:41 | kugelp | also, there's no reference repo (to clone from) on github, so each clone takes a lot space for them |
| 15:00:51 | Torne | i'm questioning whether you really need a publically reachable clone or not, is my point |
| 15:01:05 | Torne | if you have a random thing you are working on, push it as a patch |
| 15:01:39 | Torne | if it's a big long lived branch you're working on with other people then it probably *should* just be a branch in the main repo :) |
| 15:01:40 | kugelp | so we should make branches on the main repo for WIP stuff? |
| 15:01:43 | sideral | Torne: it's nice for backing up semi-private stuff, and unofficial / experimental collaboration |
| 15:02:10 | Torne | kugelp: only if you need to work on them with other people, really |
| 15:02:20 | Torne | otherwise you can just push it to refs/for/master and it'll appear as a review. |
| 15:02:28 | Torne | the reviews are effectively branches |
| 15:02:47 | Torne | except they're designed to be replaced instead of built on |
| 15:03:19 | kugelp | I want to have it publicly available to share code across PCs |
| 15:03:39 | kugelp | but it's not always code necessarily meant for upstream |
| 15:05:04 | kugelp | plus, in the main repo every committer can push to my branches which isn't always what I want |
| 15:05:24 | Torne | that's not necessarily true either :) |
| 15:05:32 | Torne | gerrit permissions are per ref, not per repo |
| 15:06:11 | Torne | but yes, if you just are moving stuff between machines and you don't want to host that yourself then it's probably not going to cover taht case super well |
| 15:06:50 | Torne | we certainly *could* make repos for individual people if they wanted them |
| 15:07:11 | Torne | but not in the trivial way github does |
| 15:07:12 | kugelp | it would be nice if we had a mirror at github then, just so we can clone it and not waste space by pushing our repo as a whole |
| 15:07:20 | Torne | That's easy, yes |
| 15:07:28 | Torne | gerrit will happily replicate to anywhere |
| 15:07:43 | Torne | so it can just update a mirror |
| 15:08:28 | kugelp | that would be sufficient |
| 15:09:21 | Torne | i don't think many people have a real need to do things this way |
| 15:10:25 | Torne | if you only develop in one place, or you just have direct access to your own repos from other places, that is easier :) |
| 15:10:57 | Torne | currently with bzr i just have a "master" copy of my stuff on one machine somewhere and other machines can pull from it over ssh |
| 15:11:46 | Torne | i've never really wanted to push stuff to a public server that wasn't stuff i wanted other people to see/comment on/etc :) |
| 15:12:54 | kugelp | that requires the master machine to be turned on, always |
| 15:13:06 | Torne | yes |
| 15:13:16 | Torne | i have numerous machines that are always turned on :) |
| 15:13:25 | kugelp | I don't .) |
| 15:13:36 | Torne | and if i didn't i'd be renting one :) |
| 15:13:48 | Torne | i'm not saying it's an unreasonable thing to want to do :) |
| 15:13:52 | Torne | just that most people don't need to do it |
| 15:14:00 | Torne | so i don't see it as a big problem |
| 15:15:09 | Torne | being able to push as a change to be reviewed, or as a branch of the main repo, covers most things. |
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| 15:27:37 | sideral | Saint: Re FS #12132 <http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12132>: I have a new version of patch 0007 that also provides a sane default format for Database->Tracks. I'll upload it soon; here's an incremental patch (over already applied old version of 0007) for you: http://pastebin.com/HPJD9LWP |
| 15:27:37 | bluebrother-bot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12132 tagnavi: Support "basename" in formats and conditions; replace <Untagged> in track views (patches, new) |
| 15:29:00 | GodEater | urgh |
| 15:29:04 | GodEater | that's too annoying |
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| 16:26:17 | kugelp | jhMikeS: I would prefer to use re-use the recursion feature of mutexes instead of guarding them |
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| 16:31:32 | jhMikeS | kugelp: for pcm-android? |
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| 16:46:05 | kugelp | jhMikeS: yes; but you changed it for sdl to |
| 16:46:06 | kugelp | too |
| 16:52:47 | jhMikeS | for sdl it's not necessarily reentrant |
| 16:53:52 | jhMikeS | so, SVN is technically wrong there |
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| 17:24:20 | gevaerts | kugelp: didn't you say you had sent an email to the mailing list? |
| 17:24:25 | gevaerts | Or am I misremembering |
| 17:24:34 | gevaerts | or just plain confused? |
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| 17:24:53 | kugelp | gevaerts: no, I said I'm going to :) I'm currently composing, but re-thinking things a bit |
| 17:25:06 | gevaerts | Ah, option (b) :) |
| 17:25:43 | kugelp | jhMikeS: right |
| 17:25:49 | kugelp | I didn't see that |
| 17:26:35 | jhMikeS | kugelp: I didn't either the first time :) (oops) |
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| 17:29:05 | jhMikeS | I'll probably commit any bugfix/sync additions separately. The only real support for that patch is the one function call. |
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| 17:31:34 | jhMikeS | pcm.c and pcm-mixer.c might be able to be better integrated rather than just tacking a mixer on top of it all since really the audio device should get "stolen" from the mixing code |
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| 17:40:59 | jhMikeS | kugelp: does android allow mixing natively? I did think about being able to implement it directly on the os. I think I can with SDL. |
| 17:41:46 | kugelp | jhMikeS: I don't know. We use this API: http://developer.android.com/reference/android/media/AudioTrack.html |
| 17:42:38 | kugelp | it can certainly do it, but I don't know if it's accessible for apps (I don't think it is) |
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| 17:50:55 | jhMikeS | one stream per app? what about games that need mixing? |
| 17:53:00 | jhMikeS | with 32k of latency I doubt I need the double buffer (possibly not on any app build) |
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| 18:01:33 | kugelp | gevaerts: sent |
| 18:01:51 | kugelp | jhMikeS: the buffer can be much bigger |
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| 18:04:15 | kugelp | but one doesn't use that buffer directly |
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| 18:07:49 | jhMikeS | what is the perceived latency on the phone? |
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| 18:13:01 | kugelp | some hundredth of a second perhaps |
| 18:16:20 | jhMikeS | interesting |
| 18:19:21 | kugelp | you see the buffer is internally used because you skip around it has virtually no latency but old audio data will play for a split second (worked-around in SVN, introducing the latency) |
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| 18:21:43 | gevaerts | kugelp: will there also be a function to get a pointer given a handle? :) |
| 18:21:56 | kugelp | erm, sure :) |
| 18:22:18 | gevaerts | It's kind of useful :) |
| 18:22:30 | kugelp | definitely :) |
| 18:22:49 | jhMikeS | noone _needs_ a pointer! |
| 18:24:05 | * | gevaerts will have a more detailed look later, but he has to head out to meet bluebrother rather soon |
| 18:24:06 | jhMikeS | pointers are like a naughty code peepshow |
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| 18:47:44 | jhMikeS | kugel: with the mixer, pcm is not stopped and flushed downstream, the channel is just deactivated and anything already mixed will be played |
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| 19:08:14 | amiconn | Torne: That's why e.g. quassel-irc tagged 0.8-pre immediately after branching the 0.8 release. |
| 19:08:23 | Torne | amiconn: yes |
| 19:08:42 | Torne | that would make sense |
| 19:08:44 | amiconn | We could do the same, so tagging 3.9-pre after branching 3.8. That way trunk builds always carry the -pre |
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| 20:32:38 | jhMikeS | bloody hell, where does configure expect mingw32 sdl |
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| 20:37:21 | jhMikeS | doh, got it |
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| 20:42:32 | wodz | pamaury: ping |
| 20:42:34 | jhMikeS | sure as heck getting crazy warnings make w32 sim |
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| 20:44:44 | jhMikeS | C99 inline functions not supported; using GNU89 |
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| 20:53:07 | jhMikeS | ooohh...win32 sim made in debian :P and I actually didn't connect my speakers to my computer yet |
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| 21:09:55 | Youbi | Hello |
| 21:10:18 | Youbi | I need help to install voice on my sansa clip +. |
| 21:12:57 | Youbi | I've read the doc but i can't find any français.voice to put in the root directory. |
| 21:18:43 | [Saint] | You're using RBUtility Youbi? |
| 21:19:32 | Youbi | No, i do it manually. (i'm french so sorry for my english). |
| 21:19:39 | Youbi | On a linux distro. |
| 21:20:35 | keyb_gr | Seems like there's an infinite loop in the docs. "Rockbox Voice Files" says go to Extras, and that links back to you guessed it. |
| 21:20:36 | Youbi | And i've edited the config.cfg to put "on" the speak option. |
| 21:20:46 | Youbi | Yes. |
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| 21:21:16 | [Saint] | keyb_gr: It's a little weird, but it *is* possible to get to the link. |
| 21:21:29 | Youbi | And somewhere its said that voice files are put in the .rockbox archive. |
| 21:21:31 | [Saint] | if you did, though, you'd find voicefiles aren't being built. |
| 21:22:01 | [Saint] | Youbi: Your only option at this point is to generate one (not download) via RBUtil |
| 21:22:04 | Youbi | But i didn't find voicefiles. |
| 21:22:18 | Youbi | Ok i'll do. |
| 21:22:22 | [Saint] | that's because they're not there. |
| 21:22:31 | Youbi | Ok :) |
| 21:22:45 | Youbi | I'll come back |
| 21:22:48 | Youbi | see you. |
| 21:23:44 | [Saint] | keyb_gr: http://www.rockbox.org/daily.shtml , <your player> , old |
| 21:23:51 | [Saint] | (for future reference) |
| 21:24:12 | [Saint] | ...but, as you can see, apparently they're not being built (and haven't been for a while?) |
| 21:25:47 | pixelma | even if the daily voices would be there then there wouldn't be a French voice file. If I remember correctly only english.voice was provided |
| 21:27:07 | [Saint] | Oh, heh...yeah, good catch. I missed him saying that. |
| 21:28:01 | TheLemonMan | pamaury, ping |
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| 22:42:03 | bertrik | I wonder if the RDA5802 keeps its register contents when powered down. We may be wasting current after pausing the radio on some clip+ players. |
| 22:43:32 | bertrik | I'd like to get my hands on the RDA5802 programming guide |
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| 22:53:54 | bertrik | I think there's something weird in our radio code: we still seem to access the tuner after putting it to sleep |
| 22:54:31 | bertrik | and I still don't really see a significant difference between RADIO_FREQUENCY and RADIO_SCAN_FREQUENCY |
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| 22:58:05 | jhMikeS | there could be, esp if one wants to use proper scan algorithms |
| 22:59:36 | bertrik | I have no idea what RADIO_SCAN_FREQUENCY is *supposed* to do |
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| 23:00:37 | jhMikeS | check the actual tuning for auto scanning, possibly implementing further checks than just setting the frequency |
| 23:00:59 | bertrik | there are a few tuners that can do an autonomous scan to the next station |
| 23:01:36 | pamaury | TheLemonMan: pong |
| 23:01:53 | TheLemonMan | i have some work for us :) |
| 23:01:59 | pamaury | really ? |
| 23:02:09 | TheLemonMan | yep, reversing bitburner.exe |
| 23:02:24 | pamaury | what is this ? |
| 23:02:41 | TheLemonMan | it uses the BLTC protocol with an extension called PITA and it's used to read/blow fuses via usb |
| 23:02:44 | jhMikeS | bertrik: sure, though feedback should happen and it should be canellable |
| 23:03:31 | pamaury | is it available on the internet ? |
| 23:03:36 | pamaury | is there a linux version ? |
| 23:06:05 | TheLemonMan | yup |
| 23:06:17 | TheLemonMan | i can dropbox it in a few seconds :) |
| 23:07:51 | CIA-58 | New commit by bertrik (r29984): rda5802: don't use the si4700-specific exceptions for putting the tuner to sleep |
| 23:09:09 | pamaury | ok |
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| 23:12:04 | CIA-58 | r29984 build result: All green |
| 23:15:10 | pamaury | wow, that's quite a fat program :( |
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| 23:16:28 | pamaury | ok, I'll have a look at it tomorrow or on thursday and I'm quite busy until the 10/13 (I have some hard deadlines) but I'll try |
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| 23:16:43 | TheLemonMan | no problem :) |
| 23:16:55 | pamaury | did you try to sniffer the usb packets ? It might a simple protocol like bltc |
| 23:17:05 | TheLemonMan | i'll take some usb dumps and start working on those |
| 23:17:21 | pamaury | what are the interesting fuses ? |
| 23:17:26 | TheLemonMan | yeah, but it has pretty long and obscure packets |
| 23:17:54 | TheLemonMan | mainly the ones that control boot flags and the ones that make up the .sb decryption key |
| 23:18:13 | pamaury | I guess it's HID based too ? |
| 23:18:32 | TheLemonMan | yep, there are traces of bltc too |
| 23:20:35 | pamaury | ok |
| 23:21:15 | pamaury | I'll go to bed now :) Tomorrow I'll try it on my fuze+ to see :) |
| 23:21:38 | TheLemonMan | heh, ill go to bed too. it has been an hard day. G'nite |
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