#rockbox 2011-06-21

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00:09:43	Espreon	Lovely, KDE detects my iPod as some Toshiba device (when Rockbox is active). But God knows how outdated this thing's build of Rockbox is.
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00:42:35	sideral	kugel: I agree with Slasheri that declaration of struct search_instruction inside another struct is bad. Aggregation is OK, but not nested declaration.
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00:46:30	sideral	Otherwise, the changes look fine
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01:06:38	Espreon	And HEAD no longer runs on my Video iPod. The Rockbox splash appears, it says "Scanning disk...", and I get a white screen that says:
01:06:43	Espreon	"Data abort
01:06:58	Espreon	at 0001D568 (0)"
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01:17:20	Espreon	At least 3.8.1 works, thus I'll be able to live.
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07:36:37	kugelp	sideral: what's wrong with nested struct declaration?
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08:14:30	Slasheri	kugelp: it makes the code (and especially diffs) hard to read
08:17:15	kugelp	I disagree about the former
08:19:46	kugelp	the diff was unlucky, and making it look nice is not a top priority
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08:36:38	sideral	kugel: I think declaring a type nested in another type, but then using that type at top level, is confusing (despite being legal C).
08:37:40	kugel	using at toplevel?
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08:38:16	sideral	Yep, the nested type is used for variable (pointer) declarations elsewhere
08:40:03	sideral	There's not much point in arguing, though. If it's too confusing for the maintainer of that code, he or she undoubtedly will change it back; if not, then fine. There wasn't much point in changing it to a nested declaration in the first place, though.
08:41:54	kugel	change it back if you want to, I can't follow that it's confusing. I rather find it makes it clear that both structs are really tied together, so less confusing
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08:49:45	sideral	kugel: Right now you're that maintainer I was referring to :) , so no, I won't change it back. I firmly believe that the coder is always right; but people who have an investment in the code may still legitimately criticize it. So if it's more convenient for you right now, then fine by me.
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08:50:17	kugel	I'm hardly the maintainer
08:50:24	sideral	yes you are :)
08:50:31	kugel	because I touched it last?
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08:50:48	sideral	gotcha!
08:55:45	*	kugel doesnt want to be maintainer of that code :)
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09:01:02	JdGordon	nested structs should be limited to anon-structs only
09:01:11	JdGordon	dont let outside code use the type
09:01:40	amiconn	Anon structs aren't official C though
09:02:29	sideral	amiconn: struct X { struct { int a; } b; }; is perfectly legal C AFAIK
09:03:14	sideral	amiconn: as is struct { int a} b;
09:03:23	sideral	struct { int a; } b;
09:05:27	sideral	amiconn: this has always been true. Are you referring to anonymous unions, perhaps?
09:06:17	amiconn	No, I'm referring to this: http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-4.6.0/gcc/Unnamed-Fields.html
09:06:34	amiconn	It seems that it's allowed according to C1X now.
09:07:27	B4gder	c1x is not fixed yet though is it?
09:07:28	amiconn	The same part of the docs for gcc 4.5 does not mention C1X
09:07:53	sideral	Yeah, that's what I meant. It was introduced as anonymous unions in C++ in the 90s, AFAIR, and later was generalized to struct and to plain C
09:08:12	sideral	That's not what JdGordon meant though
09:17:38	sideral	Confusingly, the interwebs seem to call unnamed structs (structs with no name tag) "anonymous structs" as well
09:17:51	sideral	but these are two different things
09:18:57	sideral	So I guess JdGordon should have declared only nested _unnamed_ structs legal :)
09:20:12	JdGordon	yar
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10:04:48	gevaerts	kugel: did you see the report about current trunk data aborting on ipod video last night during dircache scan? Not many details, but...
10:05:20	kugel	gevaerts: I saw that yes
10:05:34	kugel	dircache scan works on my e200, I checked before committing
10:06:11	kugel	on, I checked on the fuzev2
10:06:13	kugel	no*
10:06:21	gevaerts	OK. I'll have a look tonight on my ipod video, to make sure
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10:55:16	subsist	hi
10:55:43	subsist	I have a ipod nano model : MA978ZP
10:55:49	subsist	will it work with rockbox?
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11:03:53	linuxstb	Google says that's a 3rd gen, so unfortunately not.
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11:30:13	Espreon	kugel: Is there anything I can do to get you more information?
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13:31:30	ack	damn :)
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15:01:22	Torne	why does rockboxdev.sh build the toolchains outside the source directories? in build-binutils and so on? doing that is what makes it require makeinfo; if you let it build inside the source dir it uses the existing info files as intended.
15:04:18	Torne	hm, okay that hack breaks gcc building :)
15:04:24	Torne	but nonetheless!
15:04:35	*	Torne finds ancient binutils mailing list threads about this :/
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15:07:38	Zagor	isn't makeinfo part of most distros anyway?
15:07:41	Torne	no
15:07:47	Torne	texinfo is not build-essential
15:08:26	Zagor	building outside the source lib makes it easy to clean up and retry a failed build
15:08:37	Torne	rockboxdev.sh already throws the source dir away anyway
15:08:49	Torne	it refuses to retry from an existing unpacked dir :)
15:09:16	Torne	this issue has been known in binutils since at least 2007 :/
15:09:22	Torne	it's a makefile bug, really
15:09:34	Torne	it should be smart enough to copy the prebuild .info files across to the build dir
15:09:41	Torne	if they are newer than the .texi
15:10:41	Zagor	yes
15:12:43	*	Torne has a look.
15:15:29	Torne	this is some hilarious automake crap
15:15:36	*	Torne is slightly afraid.
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16:16:22	n1s	Torne: iirc build in source dir is should-work-but-probably-won't-and-the-gcc-people-don't-really-care
16:17:27	Torne	right.
16:17:29	Torne	i have discovered :)
16:17:45	Torne	unfortunately automake's handling of texinfo is such that building out of tree doesn't work correctly
16:18:13	n1s	i thought −−disable-docs would drop the makeinfo dependency
16:18:15	Torne	because of weird arcane arguments from ten years ago about distributed vs nondistributed info files and weird GNU conventions
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16:18:19	Torne	nope
16:19:26	Torne	there's no such option
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16:21:20	Torne	(in any of the toolchain, afaict)
16:22:18	n1s	we pass it to configure in rockboxdev.sh
16:22:18	Torne	that doesn't mean it exists or does anything.
16:22:18	n1s	true :)
16:22:18	Torne	configure accepts any old crap
16:23:21	n1s	makes me wonder why it was added then
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16:27:48	Torne	it was added when we reorganised everything and moved to /usr/local
16:28:05	Torne	i may have missed somewhere, i dunno
16:28:19	Torne	but it doesn't look like any of the configure.ac files in binutils or gcc reference it :)
16:28:34	Torne	and libbfd still tries to run makeinfo regardless.
16:28:37	n1s	yeah r26600
16:29:37	n1s	the message doesn't mention anything about it and it's not in the patch from the referenced FS task
16:29:37	*	Torne suspects someone was just experimenting
16:31:07	n1s	anyway, why is requirirng makeinfo a problem?
16:31:14	Torne	it's annoying
16:31:21	Torne	it's not in build-essential and it's not actually required
16:31:36	Zagor	correction: it should not be required :-)
16:31:37	Torne	it's only required because the automake generated makefiles are retarded
16:32:15	Torne	and it makes the build take longer :)
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18:48:37	n1s	yes
18:48:38	Torne	we decided that at devcon
18:48:44	Torne	the discussion now is exactly how tod o it :)
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19:35:58	Slasheri	kugel: not sure if related to your dircache changes, but it seems that dircache no longer re-inits when database disabled it during commit and asks it to re-init
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19:42:34	CIA-27	New commit by miipekk (r30047): Try to handle dircache rebuild event properly. Playlist should now ...
19:43:32	kugel	Slasheri: technially it doesn't do pointers anymore
19:44:00	Slasheri	well, IDs. but practically still "pointers"
19:44:18	Slasheri	those IDs can go out of sync the same way
19:44:22	kugel	yea, but it shouldn't be called pointers outside of dircache.c
19:44:29	kugel	it's confusing
19:46:17	Slasheri	whether it's id or direct memory location, it still points to one entry in dircache
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19:46:48	CIA-27	r30047 build result: 2 errors, 0 warnings (miipekk committed)
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19:47:13	Slasheri	ouch
19:47:45	Slasheri	what in earth apk..
19:47:54	Slasheri	probably not my fault :)
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19:50:45	Slasheri	sideral: when dircache rebuilding works again (kugel?), you should check if the problem (2) still exists
19:54:29	sideral	Will do Slasheri! Do you have a patch that would apply to the 3.9 branch (pre-dircache rework)? Then I could probably test it sooner
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19:57:14	Slasheri	sideral: nope, but if you want, you could try to apply the previous commit to the 3.9 branch
19:57:28	Slasheri	probably it just needs one modification to the playlist.c
19:58:40	Slasheri	sideral: it probably complains this: playlist->filenames[index] >= 0, just change condition to != NULL
19:58:58	sideral	OK, will try later tonight
19:59:16	Slasheri	great, thanks!
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20:14:49	amiconn	Hmm, how does disabling a build client work again? And is it possible to disable a client for certain architectures only?
20:16:18	kugel	amiconn: just stopping runclient.sh to disable it
20:16:33	kugel	edit this file and re-run to select archs
20:16:37	gevaerts	amiconn: amiconn add it to blockedclients in the buildserver svn bits
20:16:39	amiconn	I mean server-side (thinking about disabling android on lillebror)
20:16:58	CIA-27	New commit by gevaerts (r30048): Block lillebror1-zagor, broken android bits
20:17:05	*	gevaerts illustrates :)
20:17:13	gevaerts	It's all or nothing
20:17:15	amiconn	gevaerts: So disabling individual architectures is not possible?
20:17:20	amiconn	ah ok
20:22:53	amiconn	gevaerts: Hmm, it doesn't seem to trigger a rebuild
20:23:12	amiconn	Imo it should, given the reason why clients are being disabled
20:23:16	kugel	amiconn: oh sorry, misunderstood
20:24:09	gevaerts	hm, good point
20:24:22	amiconn	Re-enabling doesn't need to though. Implementing that type of logic might be difficult
20:24:35	kugel	disabling completely encourages fixing better
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20:32:14	RansomTime	Having trouble with reinstalling RB on my SansaClip+, it started crashing and cycling reboot today. So I uninstalled RB with RockboxUtility, and attempted to reinstall. The utility gave an error on extraction, and didn't install. Install log: http://pastebin.com/psVztaZD
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21:04:13	JessicaRN	Hola folks, hey, in the newest build, is there a limit on the number of files any single directory can hold? I'm using an archos jukebox recorder w/ 120gb disk formatted to fat32
21:05:08	JessicaRN	I'm seeing a "buffer full" message and the play window seems to only load 1000 files.
21:05:10	B4gder	JessicaRN: yes, and there's a setting that allows you to change that limit
21:05:25	JessicaRN	b4, will that require a rebuild?
21:05:35	B4gder	no, but a reboot
21:05:47	JessicaRN	sweet. what's the downside?
21:06:00	B4gder	a little less RAM left to buffer audio with
21:06:01	gevaerts	RAM usage, i.e. battery time
21:06:48	JessicaRN	battery time? hows that? it seems that once you load the buffer it becomes static.
21:07:09	Torne	the audio buffer
21:07:31	Torne	increasing the file limit increases the size of the directory buffer, which means the audio buffer has to get smaller; there is only a fixed amount of ram
21:07:39	JessicaRN	i'm not too worried about the audio buffer. I've got it set to 0 now and i get no skips.
21:07:56	Torne	No, you don't
21:07:57	gevaerts	That's the anti-skip buffer, not the audio buffer
21:08:02	JessicaRN	ahhh
21:08:03	JessicaRN	ok
21:08:06	Torne	The audio buffer is always the entirety of free ram
21:08:08	JessicaRN	gotcha
21:08:11	Torne	it contains the tracks that are upcoming
21:08:16	JessicaRN	cool
21:08:22	Torne	so, the smaller it is the more often it needs to spin up the hard drive and load more mp3s
21:08:28	JessicaRN	ok. i'll play with it.
21:08:32	Torne	thus your battery life will be slightly smaller
21:08:38	JessicaRN	AHHH. thus the battery time impact
21:08:45	JessicaRN	cool
21:08:51	Torne	generally i would suggest that having thousands of files in one directory is not a very good arrangement
21:09:00	Torne	but the setting is there, you can change it :)
21:09:36	JessicaRN	I have everything else in artist>album sort. this directory (about4k songs) is the one-hits
21:10:21	JessicaRN	anyone know how much ram is in an archos juke/recorder? v1
21:10:32	B4gder	a massive 2MB
21:10:40	B4gder	total
21:10:51	B4gder	and that's used for code, data and buffering etc
21:11:27	JessicaRN	wow. I guess, now we're playing with power....
21:11:35	JessicaRN	grins
21:11:56	JessicaRN	hmmm... any good workarounds?
21:12:27	JessicaRN	I really don't wanna break up the directory. I love the 4k shuffle.
21:12:56	JessicaRN	or, should I say, I could care less about breaking up the directory if I can keep my 4k shuffle
21:13:01	gevaerts	You can still shuffle if it has subdirectories
21:13:21	JessicaRN	how does that hit the buffer?
21:14:07	gevaerts	I don't think it does
21:14:53	JessicaRN	and it will still shuffle across all the subs?
21:15:15	Torne	yes
21:15:23	JessicaRN	sweet!
21:15:28	JessicaRN	You all are rockstars
21:15:29	Torne	the maximum playlist size is seperate from the maximum directory size
21:15:47	JessicaRN	I can deal with that
21:16:32	JessicaRN	for a decade old piece of equipment, this juke/recorder is still a very nice device. I'll cry when it finally dies.
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21:17:46	Buschel	Torne: http://pastie.org/2102827 seems to fix the fPIC sim build issues on Linux and cygwin
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22:27:30	Slasheri	kugel: now H140 crashes completely on bootup (probably trying to load dircache state from disk)
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22:32:27	Slasheri	kugel: hmm, something weird is going on.. now everything works fine
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22:34:43	kugel	Slasheri: remove the dircache.dat
22:34:44	Slasheri	kugel: ok, boot at first ram image, then rom image or vice versa -> crash. Dircache relocation does not work?
22:34:54	Slasheri	kugel: that is not the proper fix
22:35:04	kugel	it is
22:35:14	kugel	the old code didn't check DIRCACHE_MAGIC
22:35:26	kugel	wait, then it should work
22:35:36	Slasheri	the cache file will be removed automatically when there has been a crash
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22:36:16	kugel	I checked dircache resuming by enabling it for other targets with a hack
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22:37:01	sideral	kugel: You should consider adding a check for DIRCACHE_MAGIC to the 3.9 branch so that users find it easier to upgrade or downgrade when the next major version is released
22:37:08	Slasheri	kugel: with different images rockbox has non-identical memory layout
22:37:23	Slasheri	previous version of dircache prevented resuming to a different address
22:37:36	kugel	sideral: perhaps not a bad idea
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22:37:53	kugel	Slasheri: yes but that's not necessary anymore now
22:37:58	Slasheri	sideral: i don't think that was the problem in this case
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22:38:29	Slasheri	kugel: indeed.. and now the new system doesnt handle that properly
22:38:49	kugel	it did in my tests, I'll have a look tomorrow
22:39:01	Slasheri	i can constantly crash the target by selecting a different image
22:39:29	kugel	the same image works?
22:39:34	Slasheri	yes
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22:43:47	kugel	Slasheri: how's it exactly crashing?
22:44:07	hobby16	I'm trying to patch the Sansa firmware to set the FAT_ATTR_VOLUME_ID bit of a directory (trick proposed by sideral yesterday to hide the dir from the host pc), I have tried for hours but to no avail. I suspect the fat_rename function (in fat.c) must be patched, can anybody give me a suggestion please ?
22:44:26	kugel	gevaerts: did you look at the ipod thing?
22:44:27	Slasheri	kugel: it halts completely during bootup (rockbox logo displayed)
22:44:38	gevaerts	kugel: not yet
22:44:39	Slasheri	most probably during dircache loading
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22:44:57	Torne	hobby16: did you not understand what we suggested yesterday?
22:45:01	Torne	why do you need to modify rockbox?
22:45:19	kugel	Slasheri: I'll look into it tomorrow (and check logs)
22:45:28	Slasheri	ok, great
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22:47:33	hobby16	@Torne, I've decided to modify rockbox because it's not easy at all to change the Volume-ID bit on a Windows host (the usb HD must be unmounted before and on Windows 7 or XP, it's impossible !!). At least that's what I end up concluding, do you think it's correct ?
22:48:03	Torne	no, it is quite easy
22:48:47	Torne	get a proper disk editor
22:48:54	Torne	it should take all of ten seconds
22:49:28	hobby16	@Torne I must use a wrong sofware then. I've used HxD as a diskeditor (and many others) and asked the question yesterday. Maybe can you tell me what to use ?
22:49:30	Torne	windows doesn't prevent you modifying a mounted disk, which is j pretty funny but hey.
22:49:34	Torne	useful for you :)
22:49:43	gevaerts	kugel: also get a data abort on first boot with a current build on ipod video
22:49:44	Torne	just don't actually look at or access the disk
22:50:00	Torne	patch the directory and as soon as the write is done yank the disk out
22:52:06	hobby16	@Torne ok, the guy there misled me then, saying "Access Denied under Windows 7 on flash drive" is the norm, please advice : http://forum.mh-nexus.de/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=438
22:53:08	Torne	also you can unmount devices on windows
22:53:18	Torne	just go into the disk admin thingy and remove all the mount points for the partition
22:54:56	hobby16	@Torne : ok, I'll try to unmount. Is HxD the right disk editor to use ? (I've found the byte & bit to change, but was blocked by the readonly problem)
22:55:18	Torne	i have no idea
22:55:28	Torne	i don't know any random piece of software you happen to have :)
22:55:42	Torne	you may be opening the wrong device, though
22:55:47	Torne	you want to be editing the physical disk volume
22:56:03	sideral	hobby16: You might also consider developing under Linux, where everything is shiny and bright ;)
22:56:22	Torne	heh, this machine doesn't have a backslash key
22:57:08	hobby16	@torne, that's what I did, with rockbox, then with a 120M usb key, but the readonly problem is permanent
22:57:15	Torne	you wnat to edit //?/Device/Harddisk<somenumber>/Partition1
22:57:26	Torne	except with backslashes
22:57:32	Torne	not the DOS style drive letter
22:58:04	Torne	the drive letter is a mount point, not a physical disk; the semantics of accessing it are different (for poorly explained reasons)
22:58:18	Torne	a sensible disk editor would offer either
22:59:32	hobby16	torne : "a sensible disk editor". Is there any on windows you know of ?
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23:00:09	Torne	i am fond of runtime software's diskexplorer
23:00:13	Torne	but it costs money
23:00:24	gevaerts	kugel: it crashes in parse_line()
23:00:30	gevaerts	Which is in tagtree.c
23:01:01	hobby16	@sideral, I'm already on Ubuntu with Virtualbox (Win7 host) but (my) Ubuntu does NOT emulate usb, grrr (anything shiny, hmmm)
23:02:58	hobby16	anyway, I've tried to change the firmware to issue a command "change this f..g volume-id bit", It seemed much more predictable. Can anybody still help with a suggestion on where to do it ?
23:09:30	Torne	virtualbox *does8 emulate USB
23:09:37	Torne	you just need to actually tell it to hook up the device to the VM
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23:09:56	Torne	modifying rockbox to do something you need to do exactly once seems crazy :)
23:10:10	gevaerts	Does anyone have a 64mb ipod video around? Do current builds boot on those?
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23:10:29	Torne	gevaerts: i have one, but haven't tried recently :)
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23:12:31	sideral	hobby16: modifying Rockbox isn't going to be easy. I'd add a low-level function that does this near (and similar to) the FAT mkdir function, then call this new function from within the unmount code
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23:13:58	hobby16	"modifying rockbox to do something you need to do exactly once seems crazy :)". NO, it's would be a customer application and it will be used on many rockbox target (I hope so)
23:13:59	gevaerts	Torne: no point I guess. My mini2 also data aborts
23:14:06	Torne	gevaerts: ah
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23:16:33	hobby16	@sideral, thank you for your point, that's what I thought, but was not sure. There is a fat_rename() in fat.c, can it be used to rename a dir (normally, it's for files)
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23:17:21	sideral	hobby16: I don't know
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23:20:44	pamaury	hobby16: a dir is a file
23:20:54	pamaury	(on fat)
23:22:19	hobby16	@pamaury, great news, so I'll try to use fat_rename() to change the volume_id bit of a dir.
23:22:34	hobby16	?
23:22:58	pamaury	I don't see the relationship between renaming and changing a flag bit
23:23:59	hobby16	well, in fact I just want to change a flag bit, but I don't know where and thought fat_rename() is the function to call. Can you confirm ?
23:26:18	sideral	hobby16: I merely suggested to use fat_rename as inspiration for how to find a directory entry's flags and how to read and write them
23:26:37	pamaury	you can probably do it in fat_rename but given that all the info needed to identify the main entry is in te fat structure, you can write your own function for this (and inspire from rename or open to see how it works)
23:26:45	hobby16	I have /mydir on rockbox, I want to set the ATTR_VOLUME_ID bit (0x8). Maybe easy cake but not for me.
23:26:49	sideral	I guess there's no way the current rename function will do the work for you
23:27:48	hobby16	@sideral, no no, fat_rename is proposed by me because it's (for me) the most likely candidate. But I don't know how to go on, hence asking advices here
23:27:49	*	gevaerts decides to try the good old splashf() debugging
23:28:38	pamaury	hobby16: wait a second, I'll try to write something quickly to give you a hint
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23:29:47	hobby16	@pamaury, great, if more convenient, send it to me here hobby16@free.fr Thanks in advance
23:30:36	gevaerts	hobby16: for short bits of code people tend to use pastebins
23:31:10	pamaury	note that actually, all the work in nearly done in update_short_entry
23:32:23	hobby16	@pamaury, I note update_short_entry. wow, that's a great hint !
23:33:29	hobby16	yeah, use pastebins please
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23:34:34	gevaerts	hrm, two-byte aligned structs will cause data aborts, yes...
23:35:49	pamaury	http://pastebin.com/zRhNavh8
23:36:11	pamaury	that untested, but it should give you an idea
23:37:52	hobby16	@pamaury, that seems perfect, many thanks !!!
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23:42:34	sideral	gevaerts: can you identify the checkin that added the access caused the crash in tagtree.c?
23:42:47	gevaerts	sideral: no idea. I know the line though
23:42:56	sideral	gimme
23:43:18	gevaerts	sideral: get_format_str() gets given an unaligned pointer
23:43:51	gevaerts	At first sight that pointer is in the correct range, so it's probably not just some uninitialised memory
23:46:05	sideral	gevaerts: Interesting. I'm asking because I'm observing a different tagtree failure while testing Slasheri's latest fix: My tagnavi_custom.config apparently is not read
23:47:00	sideral	This is a build without kugel's changes, though. I cherry-picked Slasheri's fix on top of a build based on the 3.9 branch
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23:48:18	amiconn	hobby16: Direct disk editing should work on Vista or 7 the same way as on earlier versions of windows. The tool needs to "run as administrator" though (unless you've disabled uac)
23:49:01	amiconn	Non-admins don't have low level disk access, but that applies to XP/ 2003 as well
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23:49:29	Torne	amiconn: if that was the problem he wouldn't be able to read the disk in the first place
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23:56:23	hobby16	Great, pamaury short code seems to do exactly what I want. The bit is set properly. Testing now... Anyway, many thanks to you all.
23:57:56	hobby16	@amiconn, the readonly access problem is real as described here by Mael (the author of HxD) : http://forum.mh-nexus.de/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=438

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