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#rockbox log for 2011-06-23

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00:07:42Tornepeople who were prodding me about making genlang faster: see FS #12165
00:07:43fs-bluebot Speed up genlang with a generated regex (patches, new)
00:07:51Tornemakes it about a third faster.
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00:17:57kugelTorne: do you even need regexes for trailing *?
00:18:29Torneyou nee them to do what i'm doing there
00:18:42Tornei haven't actually tested if it's faster than prefix matching all combinations
00:18:46Tornebut i would be somewhat surprised if it wasn't.
00:19:39Tornewhat my code there does is given a target string of, say, ipodvideo:recording, it makes the regex ,(\*|i\*|ip\*|...|ipodvideo|r\*|re\*|...|recording),
00:19:50Torneand matches that directly againt the wildcard string in the language file
00:19:56kugelperhaps I'm thinking too C-ish, but for common prefix you just need to strcmp excluding the trailing
00:20:09Tornekugel: targets have 20+ feature names, though
00:20:16Torneand some of th ewildcard lists have 20+ entries
00:20:26Torneso to do prefix matching there you would end up doing 400 strcmp's
00:20:39Torneversus one precompiled regex applicatoin
00:20:45Tornefeel free to try it
00:20:48Torneit may well be faster
00:20:52Tornemy intuition says no, though
00:21:06ViperfangFS #12021 talks about a plugin for rockbox to play vgm, im interested in tryng it out but do not know where to get it. Any help appreciated
00:21:07fs-bluebot New VGM (Video Game Music) codec based on Game_Music_Emu ;) (patches, unconfirmed)
00:21:25kugelyour patch has no loop anymore which is nice
00:21:42kugelI don't know anyway how the regex engine(s) work under the hood
00:21:59Torneit will convert the giant alternate list into a finite state machine
00:22:10Tornewhich will in theory collapse all the common prefixes together making the list much shorter
00:22:28Tornethen it just runs the FSM along the string to be matched in linera time
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00:26:58kugel1/3 is great, but I hoped more considering that it's *the* bottleneck
00:27:37TorneIt may be that it can do better
00:27:41Torneis it really the bottleneck?
00:27:46*Torne suggests profiling :)
00:27:57Tornei didn't try particularly hard
00:28:01kugelwell, someone said it is :)
00:28:04Tornei implemented the thing i thought of and it worked, i tried a few variations and they didn't help.
00:28:31TorneWell it's an obvious *suspect* because of the old implementation being N*M iterations and building a new regex every time
00:28:43Torneanyway time i went to bed i think :0
00:28:54Tornesince i am at disneyland and i need to get up and go on more rides tomorrow :0
00:29:14gevaertsHave fun :)
00:30:24gevaertsViperfang: the patch is attached to that task...
00:32:56ViperfangIm gonna need to build me a tool chain
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00:50:07kugelprofiling of chinese-trad.lang (w/o Torne's patch):
00:52:40kugelw/ Torne's patch torne/index.html">
00:54:49kugelso parsetarget() is 5.5x faster
00:54:55kugelbut there's still room :)
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00:59:20gevaertsLooking elsewhere might be a good idea though
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01:00:13kugelreadenglish() is next :)
01:00:51kugelhm, when executing genlang it doesn't take the english.list shortcut
01:01:18kugelit seems broken
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01:05:42kugelyea, it doesn't use the pre-generated english.list at all
01:07:54kugelmy english.list wasn't updated since june 14
01:08:03kugeldeleting it helped
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01:11:45kugelanother thing that seems unecessary, each line of a lang is dos2unix'd. we should just force LF via svn props
01:12:40kugelthe timestamp of english.list isn't updated after generating it, so it re-generates it all times
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01:49:56kugelfwiw, removing the unnecessary
01:49:56kugel stripping has little, but measurable effect
01:50:02kugel \\r
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04:00:15belakWhat's the status on the iPod classic port?
04:01:36Viperfangalmost completely useable
04:01:45Viperfang(I'm using it)
04:02:38ViperfangWhich classic do you have?
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04:04:01belakThe newer 160 GB
04:04:15Viperfangcompletely unsupported
04:04:54Viperfangdifferent ATA controller, no code for it yet
04:05:07belakAh, that sucks
04:06:35belakAt least they're finally getting past the crap firmware
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04:07:34Viperfangyeah... they overwrite it
04:07:53belakKinda risky, it sounds like...
04:08:05Viperfangonly if it fails :P
04:08:22ViperfangIt does have some safety measures
04:08:52ViperfangBut as you are flashing the firmware, there is only so much you can do
04:09:26belakSo, you have an iPod classic?
04:09:33Viperfangyeah, 120GB
04:09:47belakAny hints on a good case to buy?
04:10:20ViperfangI use a caselogic, its good
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04:11:14belakWhich type?
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06:02:11PhosphenesHi, if I install rockbox does it format my mp3 player and should I back up all my music?
06:03:43JdGordonno, yes
06:04:08PhosphenesOk thanks
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06:47:32PhosphenesSo. Many. Themes!
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06:53:04PhosphenesI am officialy a rockbox user.
07:05:04JdGordonmeh, we have enough users... download the source and join the party!
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08:24:26amiconnkugel_: The problem with 'english.list' is that genlang only uses it if it's newer than english.lang, but only writes it if it exists
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08:25:26amiconnThe condition in line 833 needs to be changed from checking existence to calling file_is_newer()
08:25:53amiconnErr, only writes it if it *doesn't exist*
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08:42:10CIA-27New commit by amiconn (r30056): Make genlang rewrite english.list if it exists but is older than english.lang
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08:45:57CIA-27r30056 build result: All green
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08:50:30sideralSlasheri: Any idea whether you'll be able to fix the tagnavi_custom regression before the 3.9 release (due next Monday)?
08:55:37Slasherisideral: i will create the patch today
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08:57:20sideralcool. thanks!
09:01:59amiconnBagder: Maybe svn is locked on your rbclient 'storebror'?
09:05:16amiconnHmm. I thought it might because while it's a quite fast box, it didn't finish any build last round
09:05:41*amiconn wonders what else may cause this
09:06:07Bagderpossibly a bandwidth thing
09:06:11amiconnFinding out might help improving build efficiency
09:06:30Bagderit is clogging up its pipe atm
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09:11:18ZagorBagder: do you have -ulspeed set?
09:11:36ZagorI set -ulspeed 90 to avoid congestion on my adsl line
09:11:53Bagderright, but I meant that other stuff is using my network heavily right now
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15:19:30cpu98Buschel: guess what? I found wm8975 is configured for 48kHz on nano2 if i'm not wrong...
15:22:15cpu98Buschel: I don't know nano 2g hardware configurations so it may not work(check bclk), but you get the idea
15:23:52cpu98WTF free steam acount?
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16:39:53andrewmvHi - I'd like to be added to the WikiUsersGroup as AndrewVilleneuve
16:43:31mc2739andrewmv: done
16:43:51andrewmvThank you :)
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16:59:12Zagorbluebrother: here?
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17:09:06CIA-27New commit by zagor (r30057): Fixed broken regex
17:10:08n1sZagor: i had been wondering about the messages about that one when making voice files
17:10:39Zagorit was not easy to find :-)
17:12:13CIA-27r30057 build result: All green
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17:19:28sideralSlasheri: Could the playlist problem you addressed in r30047 also, in some related way, affect targets that do not use the dircache?
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17:45:28Slasherisideral: that shouldn't be possible, since code modified in r30047 only affects targets with dircache
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17:47:46sideralSlasheri: I know that the patch is only for dircache targets. But I'm wondering if the file names referenced by a non-dircache-supported tagcache could get stale in the same way
17:50:09Slasherisideral: if you mean playlist entries getting trashed, it shouldn't be possible in the same way as playlist engine doesnt initiate queries to the tagcache system
17:50:39Slasheriand without dircache, tagcache will never load filenames in ram
17:51:46sideralI was concerned more about the tagtree or DB getting trashed
17:52:03sideralbut you're right, that shouldn't be possibly this way
17:52:39Slasheriif tagtree still gets trashed, it would most likely be a different issue
17:52:54sideralThe background is that I'm wondering what could lead to database-entry duplication (FS #12129), and thought maybe it has something to do with stale filenames being cached somewhere
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17:53:25fs-bluebot Duplicate database entries (bugs, unconfirmed)
17:54:31Slasherisideral: i should check that.. it would be vital to know if the duplication occurs only with dircache either being enabled or not
17:55:16sideralThis is with a ClipV1, which doesn't have dircache AFAIK. Hence my questions :)
17:55:31Slasherioh, that's really interesting
17:56:06sideralIt has something to do with autoupdate, and I've verified that the entries are really duplicated on disk
17:56:36Slasheri"are really duplicated on disk"? well, that would explain the issue ;)
17:57:57Slasherinevermind.. i think something like committing the temporary db twice would cause duplication
17:57:59sideralI meant, in the /.rockbox/database*.* files
17:58:00Slasheribut that shouldn't happen
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17:59:32sideralHe also has a deletion of a currently playing track as part of his reproduction recipe, which has known bugs.
17:59:34Slasherisideral: great, there is a (long) sequence included in bug report to reproduce the issue
17:59:57Slasheriknown bugs?
18:00:15sideralyeah, hangs & crashes
18:00:27sideralFS #10874
18:00:46fs-bluebot no track will play after playing a deleted, semi-buffered track (bugs, new)
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18:02:41sideralshouldn't commit weed out duplicates during each commit step, making double-commit a no-op? Or aren't filenames uniq'd?
18:03:40*sideral needs to go offline now; I'll check back later
18:04:27Slasherisideral: filenames are uniqued only during generation of the temporary db file (commit reads that file, sorts it and commits to the main db)
18:05:11sideralI see
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18:07:44Slasherithe "unique" term used in the ascii diagram at the beginning of tagcache.c means different thing: use of unique table entries for artist, album, ...
18:09:06amiconnHmm, website's dead?
18:09:19Slasherivery slow to load
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18:27:28Slasherisideral: if you see this when you are back, could you check if this patch fixes the tagnavi_custom regression:
18:28:27Buschelcpu98: I doubt the nano2g uses 48kHz. On the nano the xternal clock is used −− if I am not wrong this external clock is 1,843,200 Hz. the clock should be right...
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18:46:30bluebrotherhmm, seems I missed Zagor
18:48:40bluebrotheris down or is my network acting up?
18:48:52Buschelbluebrother: I have issues as well
18:50:04n1sit's quick here
18:50:30gevaertsAlso fine here
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18:51:48bluebrotherworking ok again for me. Maybe some hiccup in the network.
18:53:11Buschelyes, fine again now. was lagging for nearly 30 minutes
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19:27:26Slasherikugelp: dircache_disable(); dircache_build(0); doesn't seem to work as expected (used by tagcache). Dircache throws: "size limit reached". Apparently it does not properly start the process beginning of the previously allocated buffer
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20:04:13sideralSlasheri: OK, will do
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21:11:57sideralSlasheri: why isn't it OK to just keep letting fast_readline strip out CRs? That should be fine even for tags, and would be less complex than letting each fast_readline client handle CR in its own way
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21:28:07Slasherisideral: then tagcache export/import would have to escape CR. However, i choose this way as for example Perl either wont chomp() CRs
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21:29:45Slasherithat way fast_readline() would adapt to every situation when CRs are handled by the calling function (when necessary to handle)
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21:38:47sideralSlasheri: OK.
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22:10:03Slasherisideral: did the patch work?
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22:10:22sideraltesting right now
22:10:27Slasheriok :)
22:15:07sideralSlasheri: yes, it works! Thanks!
22:15:21Slasherisideral: great! i will commit that
22:16:27sideralcool. don't forget to commit to v3_9 as well
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22:17:42Slasherihmm, need to check how to do that
22:22:02CIA-27New commit by miipekk (r30058): Fixed a regression caused in r30021: tagnavi_custom.config parsing ...
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22:26:39CIA-27r30058 build result: All green
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