#rockbox 2011-06-27

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#rockbox log for 2011-06-27

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00:19:17	godzirra	Hey guys. How do you tell which version of ipod you have?
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00:20:11	godzirra	I have either a 5th gen or an ipod classic.
00:20:14	godzirra	Just not sure which.
00:20:28	LambdaCalculus37	Is the front of the iPod made of plastic or metal?
00:21:12	godzirra	Looks like plastic.. trying to get the case off, and its not co-operating.
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00:22:01	godzirra	Actually looks like metal.
00:23:22	LambdaCalculus37	Silver or black?
00:23:28	godzirra	Silver
00:23:33	LambdaCalculus37	iPod Classic.
00:23:46	LambdaCalculus37	And the case is going to be very hard to open on that model.
00:23:56	godzirra	no no... I meant my plastic case around it.
00:24:01	godzirra	I wasn't trying to open the ipod itself.
00:24:08	godzirra	So I can't install rockbox on a classic, can I? :/
00:24:33	LambdaCalculus37	You can; there is a build for it.
00:24:43	n1s	yes you can but it's not a mature port
00:24:44	LambdaCalculus37	But the install process is pretty elaborate.
00:24:47	godzirra	Oh.. I didn't see one...
00:25:01	godzirra	n1s: if I have issues, I can go back to the standard ipod firmware though, right?
00:25:01	LambdaCalculus37	That's because it's still very work in progress.
00:25:10	LambdaCalculus37	You can restore the iPod, yes.
00:25:30	godzirra	Awesome. I'm adventurous, and I loved the hell out of rockbox on my old ipod. Where do I read up on how to do it?
00:25:30	n1s	probably
00:25:58	LambdaCalculus37	godzirra: Linux4nano's site has instructions.
00:26:05	neferty	oh god no, i opened mine, i'm not closing it back ever again D:
00:26:10	n1s	http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IpodClassicPort
00:26:33	LambdaCalculus37	Wait, sorry... freemyipod!
00:26:43	neferty	godzirra, rockbox works with freemyipod/umcore
00:26:54	godzirra	What is freemyipod/umcore?
00:26:57	neferty	but battery time goes from 25hrs -> 8hrs
00:27:01	godzirra	Whoa.
00:27:05	godzirra	That's a pretty drastic drop.
00:27:06	neferty	yeah...
00:27:15	godzirra	how come the drop is so steep?
00:27:24	n1s	and one of the reason it's not considered mature
00:27:28	neferty	no clue
00:27:41	godzirra	Well crud. I could handle a lot of immature stuff, but not a 66% drop in battery life. :/
00:27:43	n1s	because we don't know all the secrets of the hardware
00:27:46	godzirra	Heh.
00:27:55	godzirra	Is there anything I can do to help it, and is it still in progress?
00:27:58	godzirra	Or has it stalled?
00:28:29	neferty	you can enable clock scaling/undervolting, which makes some devices unstable and gives you about 1hr worth of battery life
00:28:32	n1s	disassemble apple code to figure out how they get better battery time
00:28:49	neferty	i'm just repeating what i heard from Seven though, afaik he's sort of the port maintainer for the classic
00:29:06	godzirra	n1s: Sadly, that's beyond my skill level. I'm just a perl/ruby guy.
00:33:16	godzirra	neferty: For a total of 9ish?
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00:33:41	neferty	godzirra, depends on your battery but yeah
00:33:42	godzirra	How do I get in touch with Seven so I can see if there's anything I can do to help? Not sure if there is anything.. but I'd like to offer, regardless.
00:34:22	neferty	[seven] is his nick, i just didn't want to ping him
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00:41:52	AlexP	godzirra: He is on
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00:44:19	godzirra	Oh. I was looking for an actual [seven]
00:44:22	godzirra	long day =p
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02:22:08	JoshuaChang	the spc playback in cowon d2 has artifacts, but when i export to file into wav(using test_codec) and playback in pc, it's ok, what's wrong?
02:22:34	JoshuaChang	resample stuff?
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02:27:28	godzirra	I wish I had a good flac player. :/
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02:56:14	saratoga	JoshuaChang: probably some bug with audio playback or DSP on the D2
02:56:44	saratoga	i would try the DSP option in testcodec as well to make sure its not that code
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02:57:52	JoshuaChang	i have tried to disable asm opt in dsp's resample code, but it doesn't help
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03:04:01	saratoga	is the DSP output in test_codec correct?
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03:21:29	JoshuaChang	no, i didn't use dsp in test_codec, will try it soon
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03:39:55	JoshuaChang	have exported the spc into wav using dsp, well the file was also 32khz but lengthened...i modified the wav's head to make it likes a 44khz file, then playback in d2, the artifacts is still there
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03:54:49	saratoga	so the problem is in the dsp code then
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04:12:06	belak	Is there any chancefor an iPod Classic 7g version?
04:12:45	saratoga	belak: theres only 6 ipod 'classic' generations, but yes, we have builds for all of them
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04:15:07	belak	I heard that the newer Classic was different from the 6g and that there weren't builds for them
04:15:20	belak	Yay, inconsistancy.
04:16:32	saratoga	probably just someone confused about ipod versions
04:16:33	belak	Something about a driver for the storage...
04:16:43	belak	Heh, ok.
04:17:07	belak	What's left before the 6g port is usable?
04:17:23	belak	I understand it mostly works now... but what's left?
04:17:48	saratoga	no idea, check the wiki
04:19:21	belak	Hm, since the install completely replaces the iPod firmware, if the iPod is bricked, is there any way to fix it?
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04:19:55	saratoga	i think so
04:20:12	saratoga	if something can't be undone, the wiki will probably say so
04:32:20	saratoga	TheSeven: perhaps after 3.9 would be a good time to promote the ipod classic build to unstable? looking at the wiki it seems about ready
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06:22:53	godzirra	belak: 6g is ipod classic? i.e. the 80gb? or the 6g is a newer one?
06:24:10	belak	I thought there were 2 generations of the new classic, though wikipedia lists it as 6th gen with an original, first and second revisions.
06:24:30	belak	I have the 160 GB classic. The 2nd revision, according to wikipedia
06:24:32	JdGordon	new classic is an oxymoron
06:24:45	godzirra	Ah. Okay. I just got back into looking into rockbox; I used to have an iRiver H20 with rockbox and it was fan-freakin' tastic.
06:24:59	godzirra	but I don't think I can live with the drop from 25 hours to 8 hours for battery life.
06:25:04	godzirra	JdGordon: welcome to Apple. ;p
06:25:06	belak	I wish they could have just named them all the same.
06:25:49	godzirra	belak: Eh. -We- would still have to differentiate between the versions, so I think it'd be just as difficult.
06:26:26	belak	Heh, just use gens. As of right now, the iPod classic, iPod color and plain iPod all use the same Gen numbering
06:26:52	godzirra	Oh. You're right, that's dumb.
06:28:17	godzirra	Is there a good media manager for those of us that can't (or who can't lose the battery life) install rockbox?
06:28:32	godzirra	I really miss the drag and drop support of rockbox on my device.
06:28:36	belak	For what mp3 player?
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06:42:47	godzirra	I have an ipod classic now. I used to have (a long time ago) an iRiver H20.
06:42:49	godzirra	Rockbox on it was fantastic.
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06:50:17	godzirra	belak: any suggestions?
06:50:28	belak	What gen?
06:51:06	godzirra	The 80gb classic... i'm not sure what gen that is? Its the silver one that has the metal front?
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06:55:44	belak	Well, it's an unstable port, and it overwrites the firmware, but I think it works
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07:02:56	godzirra	It does, but I've been told (and the wiki says that power management doesn't work) that it drops battery life from 25 hours to 8ish.
07:02:59	godzirra	That's a bit low for me. :/
07:06:21	belak	Yeah
07:06:29	belak	There aren't really any alternatives
07:06:35	belak	As far as I know at least
07:06:58	godzirra	Ah w ell. I messaged [7] so hopefully he'll get back to me. I'm just hoping its still in development and hasn't staslled.
07:07:01	godzirra	*Stalled.
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07:19:00	d1337r	thanks for rockbox, my iriver h320 is now much better thanks to it
07:19:19	d1337r	the only plugin i'd really like to see is probably nethack :)
07:40:18	saratoga	i don't know much about nethack, but i don't think its gpl compatible
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09:06:32	misaligned	The mp3 player names don't line up to the depicted picture of the player http://www.rockbox.org/daily.shtml
09:07:10	[Saint]	in what way do you mean?
09:07:16	[Saint]	Looks fine to me.
09:07:19	misaligned	rather the DAP's are misnamed
09:07:42	[Saint]	example?
09:08:03	misaligned	ops my fault, I'm dyxlexic top down this morning
09:08:03	[Saint]	they all look fine to me.
09:08:28	misaligned	please ignore my lack of coffee
09:08:35	[Saint]	;)
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10:32:09	JdGordon	can we please just ban thai ip's?
10:32:16	*	JdGordon grumbles at deleting 25 spam posts
10:32:27	JdGordon	akismet is useless
10:33:04	gevaerts	Not entirely
10:33:11	gevaerts	It's not as useful as we might want, but...
10:33:22	scorche\|sh	it certainly has some degree of effectiveness
10:39:24	JdGordon	scorche\|sh: can we add a temp ban to 61.19.66.*? see how effective that is at stopping the annoying thai spam sigs?
10:39:33	JdGordon	it appears noone real has that ip
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10:43:54	scorche\|sh	seems a bit...strong...
10:44:06	scorche\|sh	how do you figure that no one real has it?
10:44:29	JdGordon	from my sample users...
10:44:34	JdGordon	you've got full db access though
10:44:40	scorche\|sh	oh - users
10:45:00	scorche\|sh	is there really that much spam coming from that range?
10:45:11	JdGordon	those sig bans are annoying
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10:45:45	scorche\|sh	hrm?
10:51:32	JdGordon	the drongos who pnly post with the spam sig
10:52:59	scorche\|sh	and how many have come from this range?
10:54:36	JdGordon	all
10:54:48	JdGordon	you have the db access to verify...
10:59:41	scorche\|sh	define "all" - i have been out of the country for the last week and havent been paying attention
10:59:49	scorche\|sh	...and still am out until tomorrow ;)
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11:25:09	gevaerts	scorche\|sh, JdGordon: 29 users who ever connected from that range are signature-spammers (all banned. I added the missing bans), the other 5 have no signature. Of those 5, 2 are claimed to have 1 post that's not visible, so I presume akismet got them. All 5 of those also never connected after registering.
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11:51:54	scorche\|sh	29 would be significant, yeah - you can ban the /24, but put a note in the ban on the message shown to the banned user something along the lines of if you are human and have reached this unexpectedly, email forums at rockbox
11:52:09	scorche\|sh	there are plenty of other IPs though to connect from...
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11:53:09	scorche\|sh	s/plant/plane
11:58:01	GodEater_	catching plants isn't very sporting
11:58:01	GodEater_	they don't tend to move much as a rule
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12:35:30	sideral	I have some Wiki breakage:
12:36:15	sideral	"Foswiki detected an internal error - please check your Foswiki logs and webserver logs for more information. −− Wide character in memGzip"
12:36:46	sideral	at this URL: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/bin/compare/Main/ReleaseNotes39?rev1=3&rev2=2&render=interweave&context=1
12:37:56	sideral	Whatever gevaerts changed in rev3 of that page, the wiki wants to hide it from me :)
12:42:39	[Saint]	You don't have the propper security clearence ;P
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14:23:13	AlexP	Any more for any more on the updates front?
14:26:33	Viperfang	update this
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14:31:37	Viperfang	Is there a page that lists the last 20 or so commits, just the revision and comment would be handy
14:33:21	Torne	the front page? :)
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14:36:49	sideral	Viperfang: http://www.rockbox.org/since-4weeks.html
14:37:47	Viperfang	awesome, thanks
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14:48:16	AlexP	Wow, voice is quick these days - does it reuse clips that are common between targets?
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16:40:54	AlexP	The cut-off has been and gone :)
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19:19:30	AlexP	B4gder, Zagor: I'd like to upload the new release if you are about - is it OK to scp to the same place as last time?
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19:53:51	skfunnyboy	hey everyone...does anyone know if 3.9 coming soon ? ... the date in the release note is today .. ..6
19:53:54	skfunnyboy	*?
19:58:05	saratoga	probably sometime tonight after people are back from work
19:58:28	AlexP	I've done all the builds
19:58:31	saratoga	but you can just download the current build which will be essentially the same thing minus the version tags and such
19:58:38	AlexP	Just need to upload them
19:59:04	gevaerts	saratoga: not really...
19:59:25	skfunnyboy	ok thanks for the information..
19:59:40	gevaerts	trunk has had a few real changes
19:59:47	godzirra	So what's a good device with good battery life and storage room that runs rockbox?
19:59:55	godzirra	I miss my iriver. :/
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20:07:13	godzirra	Don't everyone answer at once...
20:07:56	godzirra	I was looking at a cowon, but they all have touch screens, and I want something simple.
20:09:15	skfunnyboy	I like the fuize...but the screen is small....
20:09:17	skfunnyboy	*fuze
20:10:13	godzirra	And that one's sd card based?
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20:10:26	skfunnyboy	yea, micro sd
20:10:31	godzirra	Ah, okay.
20:11:02	godzirra	1.8" screen? Is that any bigger than an ipod classic?
20:11:49	skfunnyboy	the classic 5g is 2.5''
20:12:10	godzirra	Ah, okay. That is pretty small then.
20:12:14	skfunnyboy	yea
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20:12:58	godzirra	If I went that route, is there any reason not to get the 2gb version and a huge sd card?
20:13:18	godzirra	Hrm... whats the biggest sd card that would work on it?
20:13:27	godzirra	That might be too small. :/
20:14:06	gevaerts	Any microsd should work
20:14:31	skfunnyboy	you can put a microSDHC of 32BG mac
20:14:34	skfunnyboy	*max
20:14:37	godzirra	Sansa Fuze - supports microSDHC cards to 16GB
20:14:41	godzirra	According to their docs.
20:14:56	godzirra	Might be higher than that.. who knows.
20:14:58	gevaerts	That's the OF
20:15:17	skfunnyboy	...on wikpedia they say 32...
20:15:22	godzirra	Huh... okay.
20:15:25	godzirra	Maybe that's an old page.
20:15:35	godzirra	I really wish cowon hadn't shifted 90% of their stuff to touch screen.
20:15:44	skfunnyboy	but on mine the biggest microsd i used is 2GB so i cannot tell you
20:15:56	skfunnyboy	why you dont want touchscreen based mp3?
20:17:00	godzirra	Because I toss mine in my pocket, my backpack, etc. My ipod is durable as hell. I don't have to worry about it not working if I accidentally drop it, or worrying about the screen cracking, or anything else.
20:17:13	AlexP	It is a bit irrelevant as we don't support them
20:17:24	AlexP	The cowon ones that is
20:17:32	skfunnyboy	ok
20:17:44	godzirra	For the new cowon ones? I didn't know they weren't supported, but I wouldn't buy one anyways. :p
20:17:57	AlexP	well, on D2 and 7 a bit
20:18:11	godzirra	Those aren't touch screen though, right? And they can't be bought from cowon anymore I think?
20:18:17	AlexP	D2 is IIRC
20:18:20	godzirra	Ah.
20:18:27	AlexP	I might be talking bobbins though :)
20:18:49	godzirra	Basically what I want is my ipod... except with rockbox... I guess I'm picky. :)
20:19:28	AlexP	All the supported models are listed on the front page
20:19:38	godzirra	I know. My model is not supported.
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20:19:51	godzirra	I sadly have the classic.
20:20:52	skfunnyboy	The iPod Classic? ... what gen?
20:22:30	godzirra	5g I think. Its experimental, but I've been told it drops battery life from 25 hours to 8ish.
20:23:00	gevaerts	5g is the video
20:23:08	skfunnyboy	ok
20:23:22	godzirra	Maybe its not 5g then. Its the 80gb ipod classic silver with the metal front faceplate.
20:23:50	skfunnyboy	i always wanted a classic... im a big fan of apple..XD
20:24:16	godzirra	Someone told me my only choice was to go with the EMCore install to get rockbox on which doesn't handle power correctly.
20:25:47	TheSeven	yes, emcore is currently the only way to boot rockbox on the classic
20:26:18	TheSeven	and our code still consumes a bit more power than apple's for a still unknown reason
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20:28:16	godzirra	Yeah, I assumed that whoever told me that yesterday was correct... ;)
20:29:23	TheSeven	just wanted to confirm it :)
20:29:49	godzirra	Ah well. :/
20:30:16	skfunnyboy	@TheSeven .... did you fixed the problem with emcore and some nano 2g?
20:30:20	godzirra	So back to my original question then... what's a good hard drive based, long battery life, non touch screen mp3 player that works with rockbox? :)
20:30:38	skfunnyboy	Oh.... Hard drive based ....
20:30:54	godzirra	skfunnyboy: Yeah, I realized that was a requirement afterwards.. .I like having room. :)
20:30:59	godzirra	I have a lot of music.
20:31:01	gevaerts	gigabeat F
20:31:10	skfunnyboy	Toshiba gigabeat X
20:31:15	TheSeven	skfunnyboy: which problem?
20:31:32	gevaerts	I wouldn't call the X a player with battery life...
20:31:52	gevaerts	Well, the best one is the iaudio M5L, but good luck finding one of those...
20:32:04	TheSeven	X/F was the space/battery tradeoff?
20:32:15	saratoga	the X had a better screen IIRC
20:32:16	gevaerts	oh, wait
20:32:18	saratoga	but the same guts
20:32:21	Buschel	or the good old iPod Video... has >20h runtime as well −− depending on the battery capacity
20:32:22	gevaerts	Yes, X should be good
20:32:29	*	gevaerts confused it with the S :\
20:32:47	saratoga	fuze + 32GB sd isn't too bad, given how cheap the fuze goes for
20:33:03	godzirra	Yeah, iaudio m5l seems unlikely. :/
20:33:26	skfunnyboy	@TheSeven oh...nvm ... i think it's fixed.
20:33:27	godzirra	saratoga: I may have to check out the fuze... I just hate the tiny screen size.
20:33:41	AlexP	It isn't that small
20:33:51	AlexP	And it depends what you are going to do
20:33:55	godzirra	Play music. ;)
20:34:01	AlexP	I wouldn't watch video on any of these players
20:34:02	skfunnyboy	I own the fuze v2 ...not the + one
20:34:14	godzirra	I guess its not that bad if I'm not doing video... and I don't do video on my classic now.
20:34:22	AlexP	So personally I don't think the size difference is terribly important just for music
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20:35:02	godzirra	That's probably true.
20:35:38	skfunnyboy	The only thing i hate with the fuze on OF is the database scan..
20:36:05	godzirra	what do you mean?
20:36:38	skfunnyboy	everytime you exit usb mode and you added a file, or you remove or add a sd card... the player will take a long time to scan all your mp3 file, video and picture
20:36:50	skfunnyboy	to list it with metatags ..
20:37:18	godzirra	Ah, okay.
20:37:29	godzirra	How long does it normally take for your 2gb card?
20:37:32	skfunnyboy	but if you install rockbox this problem is fixed
20:37:35	skfunnyboy	2-3 min
20:37:39	godzirra	Oh, then its not an issue :)
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20:37:59	skfunnyboy	yea...but it's a 2gb...
20:38:14	godzirra	I see where you'd hate that... but I'd be using rockbox on it, so I don't care. ;)
20:38:24	skfunnyboy	:P
20:38:31	godzirra	So ~$100 for a 2gb sansa fuze + 32gb micro sd.
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20:39:26	skfunnyboy	i paid ~70$ for the fuze..
20:39:40	godzirra	A quick google search is showing them at various places for ~$50
20:39:42	godzirra	and same for the card.
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20:39:52	godzirra	With some more searching I can probably find some cheaper.
20:40:32	skfunnyboy	yea..
20:41:18	skfunnyboy	mine worked for like 1~1.5 years... with several drop xD ... the player still work ..but half
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20:42:23	godzirra	but half..?
20:43:42	skfunnyboy	sometime the player turn on ...sometine not
20:43:44	skfunnyboy	*sometime
20:43:55	skfunnyboy	but ... mine is broke..
20:44:21	godzirra	That's not a stunning endorsement of the build quality. ;)
20:44:45	skfunnyboy	lol ...that's not a ipod ehh..XD
20:45:18	godzirra	Christ. the 30gb ipod video is in stores still for $250. :/
20:45:40	skfunnyboy	This is why i cannot have the classic..the freaking price XD
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20:46:31	godzirra	yeah.
20:46:47	skfunnyboy	i own a touch 4g, a nano 4g and a 2g ..
20:46:59	skfunnyboy	i want a classic...so badly ! XD
20:47:24	godzirra	Ebay. :)
20:47:38	skfunnyboy	im 15 ....
20:47:53	skfunnyboy	I cannot buy from eBay :/ ..
20:48:21	godzirra	Why not?
20:48:22	godzirra	Oh.
20:48:23	godzirra	gotcha.
20:48:26	godzirra	Get your parents to?
20:48:42	skfunnyboy	They dont want ...
20:48:56	AlexP	Sliding off topic chaps
20:49:10	skfunnyboy	Yea.that right ..XD srx
20:49:12	*	bluebroth3r wanted to point to #rockbox-community that moment :)
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20:49:50	skfunnyboy	So ..back to topic... what the local time ?
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20:50:34	bluebroth3r	skfunnyboy: 8:50pm
20:50:43	skfunnyboy	ok..
20:50:52	bluebroth3r	though I don't see why that's more on topic ...
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20:51:43	skfunnyboy	−−' XD
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21:09:42	skfunnyboy	@TheSeven i talk about this The display doesn't work on some iPod Nano 2G devices. If this happens to you, we suggest to stick with iLoader for now.
21:10:08	TheSeven	that's still the case as far as I know
21:10:20	skfunnyboy	ok
21:10:36	TheSeven	haven't managed to get hold of an affected device so far, so it's kinda hard to debug
21:10:44	skfunnyboy	ok
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21:19:34	wodz	Sound subsystem of rk27xx drives me crazy. It has single i2s fifo to send samples with dma capabilities. I tried dozen of combinations and I always get sound in both channels. I use the same i2s and codec setup as OF so I must miss something trivial.
21:20:28	wodz	What is the most common data pattern of i2s fifo if there are no separate fifos for L and R?
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21:21:17	bertrik	I think interleaved L and R
21:21:52	bertrik	maybe there's something wrong in the codec or D/A setup?
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21:26:46	pamaury	the ssp of the imx233 drives me crazy too :) Apparently if I want to switch to high speed to have usb working with large packets, I need to tweaks the clocks and voltage :-/ The more I write code, the more I need to write code !
21:27:20	bertrik	It looks like on AMSv1 the FIFO is 32 bit wide, but you can have different configurations, like 16-bit L and R in one 32-bit word combined, or interleaved L and R 18- bit data
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21:43:59	wodz	hmm, datasheet says that fifo size is configurable and default is 32bits x 32 but I can't see where it is configured.
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22:01:40	dhrasmus	i want to be notified of new rockbox releases. both stable releases, and builds that might affect either of my two rockbox-compatible devices. what's the best way to do this? possible with RSS/email?
22:02:23	bertrik	we have a google calendar with release schedules
22:03:18	bertrik	it's called rockbox.calendar@gmail.com
22:04:08	bertrik	wodz, do you have a datasheet that I could look into?
22:05:15	Buschel	wodz: you are using the rk27xx internal codec?
22:05:23	wodz	Buschel: yes
22:05:37	wodz	bertrik: google for Porsche9 datasheet
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22:05:53	*	Buschel just did the same a few minutes ago
22:06:27	Buschel	wodz: you saw the strange "Bit 6" in the Codec's CR1 register?
22:06:39	dhrasmus	bertrik: beautiful, thanks! say i want to be aware if the TextViewer plugin becomes available for my Sansa Clip+ : is there a good way to find that out?
22:06:41	wodz	Buschel: yes - tried that
22:06:48	Buschel	any effect?
22:06:52	wodz	no
22:07:05	Buschel	not at all?
22:07:17	wodz	Nothing I can measure
22:07:50	Buschel	you say you are sending mono samples and hear them on both channels?
22:08:57	wodz	Buschel: I say I send various patterns and I always have signal in both channels
22:09:20	bertrik	dhrasmus, no, other than following the recent check-ins (and being able to understand them)
22:09:44	wodz	rk28xx has the same I2S IP block and there are linux sources for this but I can't see obvious difference in configuration
22:09:52	Buschel	is the sampling frequency still correct? so, correct playback speed?
22:10:44	wodz	Buschel: I have codec configured to 44.1kHz and looping 128 32bit samples gives ~334Hz sine so this looks ok
22:11:07	gevaerts	dhrasmus: you could try following the MajorChanges wiki page. I actually seem to remember that there's an rss feed of that somewhere
22:11:08	wodz	err 344
22:11:20	Buschel	maybe the mixer is just misconfigured?
22:12:09	bertrik	some codecs indeed have mixers to send L data to R analog out and vice versa
22:12:17	wodz	well, datasheet is a bit cryptic
22:12:34	bertrik	you did set the stereo mode bit in I2S_TXCTL, right?
22:12:36	*	Buschel is a bit confused as well
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22:13:29	wodz	bertrik: cleared bit 3 to be strict - yes
22:14:06	Buschel	hmm, the mixer does not seem to allow to mix L DAC to R out or vice versa...
22:17:05	dhrasmus	gevaerts: thanks! sounds like exactly what i wanted. for any others interested, rss is here: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/MajorChanges
22:17:41	wodz	the TX fifo is 16x32bits so datasheet lies once again (it sets FIFO FULL flag after 16th transfer)
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22:20:22	bertrik	I wonder with AOHPM is, maybe M for mono?
22:20:43	wodz	where?
22:20:44	bertrik	is perhaps it is some common mode thing, like on the AMS players
22:20:53	bertrik	in the block diagram
22:21:57	bertrik	have you tried the exact opposite for bits that set mono mode?
22:22:13	wodz	yes
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22:23:54	Buschel	what does CR2, Bit 6-3, do?
22:24:09	Buschel	it is more or less undocumented...
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22:24:49	Buschel	more = used to set Audio Data Word Length in the DAC/ADC paths, less = no details about the different possible settings
22:25:02	uski	hi there; there used to be a webpage somewhere with all the fonts displayed as bitmaps; I can't find it, is it gone?
22:25:20	wodz	Buschel: OF sets 0 there
22:27:37	wodz	Buschel: in SDK is #define DAC_ADWL16 (0x00) and #define ADC_ADWL16 (0x00), dissasembly confirms such configuration
22:28:09	Buschel	ok
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22:29:38	uski	finally found it : rasher.dk/rockbox/fonts/">http://rasher.dk/rockbox/fonts/
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23:10:19	Buschel	wodz: need to leave now, good luck with the driver
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23:30:22	wodz	bloody hell!!!
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23:30:56	wodz	samples are int16 interleaved L/R
23:31:21	wodz	the phone socket seems to be screwed up
23:31:31	wodz	*phones
23:44:55	bertrik	on AMS, there is a "common mode" output on the DAC. I we don't use that, both L and R get the same signal, which is the difference between L and R
23:45:27	bertrik	the effect is basically identical to not completely inserting the headphone plug
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23:50:32	bertrik	or karaoke mode in rockbox
23:51:39	CIA-27	New commit by alex (r30085): Tag 3.9 release
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23:55:20	Viperfang	Gonna put vgm support in it yet?
23:55:53	Viperfang	Sorry, that doent sound right... a bit impatient / annoying 12 yo
23:56:16	Viperfang	What I _meant_ to say, was is vgm support on the horizon?
23:56:28	Viperfang	With that comma 4 characters to the right
23:56:40	Viperfang	I might just give up and pass out right here
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