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#rockbox log for 2011-06-30

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00:05:52sideralwodz: no you didn't, but I know that. I don't plan to make my Fuze keymap changes public any time soon. But I do intend to put up my Clip+ changes up for discussion once they're watertight, because frankly, the current keymap sucks :)
00:07:35pamauryhum, so apparently, the flash is consistent: main partition table uses 512 sector size and the logical one uses 4028 :-/
00:07:38pamaury2048
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00:48:37Torne28 branch heads and 6 roots! Nearly there ;)
00:49:25Torneneed to kill a few more and then actually check out all these branches and tags from svn and git and check i haven't busted anything
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01:10:43CIA-14New commit by rasher (r30102): Add −−lcdwidth and −−lcdheight to help output.
01:13:33rasherWhat's the minimum amount of android sdk gunk I need to build Rockbox?
01:14:00kugelplatform 10 (3.0)
01:14:59rasherAnd platform-tools, I assume?
01:15:05CIA-14r30102 build result: All green
01:16:20rasherkugel: Hm, 3.0 is 11?
01:16:32kugelpossibly :)
01:16:53rasherSo which is it, 3.0 or 10?
01:17:00kugel3.0
01:17:05rasherAlright
01:17:11*rasher refrains from panicking
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01:46:54sega01just bought a sansa clip+ and am running the installer for 3.9
01:47:04sega01i must say, it's one awfully slick and nice install
01:47:29sega01the stock firmware does seem pretty decent from a quick browse, but i've heard lots of good things about rockbox
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01:51:24sega01should i expect it to appear hung after selecting themes?
01:52:42JdGordonthat wouldnt be a very useful feature would it?
01:52:59sega01hmm, it wasn't really hung
01:53:15sega01so the theme selection dialog seemed to be stuck, but i was able to close it from inside
01:53:35sega01going to see what happens when i reboot it
01:54:04sega01firmware upgrade in progress, it says
01:54:40sega01completed, not automatically rebooting just yet
01:54:51sega01ah
01:54:53sega01it's up
01:55:13sega01my god. that was too easy
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01:56:41sega01doom doesn't seem to work :-P
01:57:08sega01hard to tell on this screen. i think i actually see a pistol pointing out
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02:15:01rasherdork
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02:16:54PikelIs it at all known that Rockbox seems to like to crash all the time in Windows 7?
02:17:50LloreanRockbox runs on MP3 players and phones.
02:17:54LloreanWhat exactly are you referring to?
02:18:05PikelLlorean: the installer utility
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02:18:14Pikelcrashes, pretty cinsistantly for me
02:18:15LloreanThat's "Rockbox Utility"
02:18:20LloreanWhat version of it are you using?
02:18:48Pikel1.2.10
02:19:45rasherWhen does it crash? What are you trying to do when it crashes?
02:19:47LloreanIt should work. Does it crash in a specific place or while doing a specific thing?
02:20:27PikelIt crashes at auto-detection (got passed that by manually selecting my device and location) and then crashes at a full installation
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02:20:50LloreanWhich device?
02:20:52PikelI tried doing it several times, even as Administrator and it still crashes
02:20:59PikeliPod Video 5th Gen
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02:22:19LloreanIt might be worth filing a bug report giving the exact circumstances for reproducing it, and if it crashes with an error message or log, a copy of that.
02:22:43Pikelno message or log, just the windows dialog that it crashed
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02:33:01sega01wow. rockbox somehow works with my 24bit/96KHz flacs on the clip+
02:37:10LloreanIt downsamples them, so there's not much point in using them.
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02:40:03sega01ah, i see
02:40:16sega01i should test my ears with my best hardware to see if there's even a point to downloading them
02:40:48sega01the stereo plug on my headphones is about as big as the sansa :-/
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02:42:09rockbloxedSansa fuze rockbox doom plugin will always strafe when turning the scroll wheel.
02:43:08LloreanIs it not supposed to?
02:43:10rockbloxedHow can I remap opening doors to one of the scroll wheel directions?
02:44:14LloreanI'm not sure if the scroll wheel can be remapped. If it doesn't work the way the other keys can be remapped, then it can't.
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02:49:22sega01is the yellow at the top something permanent in the sansa screen itself?
02:49:39funnehboeycan you describe the yellow?
02:50:22sega01http://download.rockbox.org/daily/manual/rockbox-sansaclipplus/main_menu/images/ss-recording-settings-128x64x1-clip.png
02:50:29sega01exactly like that
02:50:40sega01if i adjust fonts or move the status bar, those top pixel lines stay yellow when activated
02:50:53funnehboeyoh
02:51:00funnehboeyyes I believe that is a part of the hardware
02:51:04funnehboeyyou can't change that sorry :-(
02:51:18sega01hard to find a font that fits in correctly and isn't so small :-)
02:51:23funnehboey:-) hehe
02:51:42sega01hmm, 10 fixed isn't bad
02:52:06funnehboeyOk, so I've got a Sansa Fuze v2 running doom, and it works great except I can't seem to map anything to the scrollwheel
02:52:14funnehboeyit always just strafes
02:52:28funnehboeybut I want it to open doors when I scroll left
02:52:43funnehboeyhow can I do that?
02:54:24sega01interesting, some of the apps try to draw the screen at something higher than 1bit color which causes distortion/flickering
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02:54:36funnehboey:-)
02:54:41funnehboeythat's actually a feature
02:55:06funnehboeyit flickers the screen on and off in certain proportions to simulate different shades
02:56:27funnehboeyI appologize for my double post; the web interface made it look like nothing was happening
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02:59:58sega01seems to crash if you set it to load the database from memory after initializing, and then go to the database section
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03:01:11funnehboeytry rebooting
03:03:25sega01it rebooted as soon as it crashed. came up just fine
03:03:32funnehboeygood
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03:17:50sega01the pitch detector didn't seem to work, but the recorder does (or at least, it detects volume)
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10:22:59CIA-14New commit by nls (r30103): Relax constraints for arm asm to not break when gcc decides to not inline the function but also throw in a FORCE_INLINE for good measure. Remove a ...
10:26:54CIA-14r30103 build result: All green
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10:48:39*[Saint] is confused by r30099 somewhat...
10:48:56[Saint]"Get android to build...<snip>"
10:49:28[Saint]Primarily, as I'm running r30098 with no problem on my handset...so, I was unaware it *didn't* build.
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11:46:27amiconn[23:21:07] <pamaury> does our fat code handles physical sector size != logical size or not ? <== yes it does
11:47:24pamauryreally ?
11:47:59pamauryand does it actually work ? :D
11:48:06amiconnYes, definitely
11:48:21amiconnIt's necessary for ipod G5.5 to work
11:49:03pamaurywonderful
11:49:06amiconnThere the logical layout uses 2048 bytes/ sector (due to how it presents itself through usb), physical is 512 bytes/ sector in our drivers (always)
11:49:39pamaurysame for fuze+
11:49:46pamauryexcept some extrat weirdness
11:49:48pamaury*extra
11:50:17amiconnEvaluating the MBR is guesswork though, as there is no field that specifies logical sector size
11:50:26pamauryyeah, same problem here
11:50:54pamauryand it's worse, there is the main MBR with sec=512 and one of the subpartition has a partition table with sec=2048 \o/
11:52:12amiconneek
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12:26:34Tornepossible victory! 21 branch heads, 80 tags, 5 roots. this actually appears to be more or less correct :)
12:37:21[Saint]woo
12:37:39[Saint](a delayed reaction is better then none, I guess ;))
12:38:23Tornehehe.
12:38:40*Torne checks out the entirety of svn and also every git branch and tag so he can compare the damn things. :)
12:38:49Torne...i miiight need to make /home bigger.
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13:01:26TheLemonManpamaury, heh i figured what was the problem
13:03:09pamaurytell me :)
13:04:08TheLemonManthe file was too small!
13:04:17pamaurywhat ?
13:06:06TheLemonMani added a bogus array in the code to make it bigger and it gave no errors
13:08:27pamauryweird :)
13:09:59pamauryso your lcd work now ?
13:10:34TheLemonMannope \o/
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13:50:37TheLemonManpamaury, anyway http://www.pastie.org/private/h2fgxhc3v3wzcpj1gfqwow
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13:51:20TheLemonMantested and working :D
13:53:19pamauryto provide an argument for call ?
13:53:34TheLemonManyep
13:54:00TheLemonManlooks like my official bootloader uses those args for the init process
13:54:10pamauryyeah, I wanted to add that but since you did it I will commit that :)
13:55:32pamauryhowever I'm not sure for the copyright, I think we usually want real names for copyright ?
13:56:20TheLemonManoh if so feel free to strip it out :)
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13:58:52pamauryas you want
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13:59:36pamauryanyway you already contributed much at crashing it iirc :D
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14:00:51pamauryI really would like to understand how the fuze+ is booting
14:01:38pamaurythe sb file has a boot section for the init stage but then it has two separate other boot section, one for host and one for play; I can't see how the one to run is selected
14:02:33pamauryand worse, the last stage of the first section finishes with a jump so it never returns !
14:03:30TheLemonMani guess it's based on otp config
14:04:40pamauryno so sure, each section has a tag and the sb file contains the first tag to boot
14:05:11pamaurybut hey I have no doc so I can't be sure
14:07:24TheLemonManthe sb format is overcomplicated for the task it has to do
14:07:42pamauryprobably
14:07:53pamauryFor example, what is the point of having non-bootable section ?
14:08:20TheLemonManstoring resources ?
14:08:59pamaurybut then you need to parse the sb file by hand
14:09:10pamaurywhich defeat the point of having it in the sb file no ?
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14:22:00[Saint]RaaA theme RC3 (for the impatient): http://www.datafilehost.com/download-9be8a09a.html
14:22:21[Saint]240x320 & 480x800 in the same .zip
14:22:43[Saint](other resolutions coming soon to an internets near you, promise ;))
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14:26:08[Saint]AlexP , bluebroth3r , GodEater , JdGordon , kugel , pixelma: see above, sorry for the delay.
14:26:42kugel[Saint]: I have only 320x480, sorry
14:27:10[Saint]Remaining 'issue' == current font (numerals not fixed width at this point). You have a better antialiased font? Tell me please, or point me to a fontset *you* think says "RaaA"
14:27:37[Saint]kugel: Ah...whoops, sorry about that. I'm about ~80% complete on that target resolution.
14:27:59[Saint]that will be the next one finish, should all go well and in a timely fashion.
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14:29:20kugelI thought the width of number glpys was fixed?
14:29:28kugelglyphs*
14:32:45[Saint]That wasn't an option of convttf when that fontset was made.
14:33:12*JdGordon wants feedback on the skinnable lists patch... spefically how useable it is
14:33:17sideralkugel, Slasheri: Check out FS #12175 (dircache stack overflow)
14:33:19fs-bluebothttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12175 Rockbox crashes after initializing database (bugs, unconfirmed)
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14:34:48[Saint]JdGordon: I'll poke at it when I get the chance. I'm in a mad dash to get the images done for the countless RaaA resolutions for this new theme (480x800 is done dow, btw...see the link above).
14:35:24sideralkugel, Slasheri: This could also explain the crash reported here: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,28304.0.html
14:36:17sideral(although the latter is with 3.9, and hence does not contain the post-3.9 dircache rework)
14:38:18kugelI can see how the forum report happens
14:38:26Slasheriinteresting, that could explain also one mysterious crash/corruption occurred in tagcache structures after reloading dircache (i created a patch where reloading was fixed)
14:38:39kugelas Slasheri reported the dircache buffer isn't properly re-used after the tagcache has stolen it
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14:39:14kugelSlasheri: did you fix that? I don't see yet how I introduced it
14:39:16Slasherikugel: i have now locally fixed that but found out a mysterious corruption in tagcache structures after that
14:39:22sideral(or perhaps not 3.9, he's first saying 3.9, then r30094)
14:39:37Slasherikugel: i havent yet committed that before further investigations. But let me create a patch
14:40:09TorneHooray! the git branches and tags are identical to the svn ones
14:40:10TorneI think this means I win.
14:41:04kugelTorne: awesome
14:42:34TorneSooo. Opinions on branches/tags/etc...
14:42:43kugelyes!
14:42:46TorneDo we want to preserve all of them formatted as-is?
14:42:54Torneor can i make them look tidier? :)
14:43:11Tornei already renamed the release tags to v3.6 and simliar instead of v3_6
14:43:16Tornebecause otehrwise git describe output is ugly
14:43:16Slasherikugel, sideral: could you try this: http://www.pastie.org/2144621 (please ignore all the debug crap in the diff)
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14:43:56Slasheriwithout the tagcache patch, hdr->indices pointer got corrupted somehow
14:44:16Slasherii now removed the pointer alltogether, but havent found a reason for that corruption and crash yet
14:44:48kugelohh dircache_size not resetted, that makes sense
14:44:57Slasheriindeed
14:45:05kugelperhaps move the resetting to dircache_do_rebuild() where entry_count is reset too?
14:45:29*[Saint] is also experimenting with a "froyo-esque" blue, white, charcoal and gray RaaA "cabbie"...lookin' good so far.
14:45:29kugelas well as resetting the reserve_used counter
14:45:53sideralSlasheri: I didn't see the crash, though. Do you mean this could fix the tagtree corruption issue?
14:47:29Slasherisideral: at least you should try with this patch enabled. Without the dircache patch, the tagtree corruption shouldn't appear at all because dircache reloading likely doesnt work (when using the current svn build)
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14:55:44sideralSlasheri: I'll try with this patch or a proper fix, if already available, ASAP (but not today). However, note that my previous result was with a 3.9-based build with your latest fix (r30047) backported, so the dircache was most likely active
14:57:29sideralkugel: would those changes fix the stack overflow as well? that may be a separate issue
14:57:50kugelif the stkov is in 3.9, then no :)
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15:09:12sideralkugel: I guess he's mixed up "current build" with "latest release", which seems to be a common misconception
15:09:45pamauryerr, we have MAX_LOG_SECTOR_SIZE but it's not actually a log
15:10:13siderallogical vs logarithmic?
15:11:07pamauryah, make sense :)
15:11:41*pamaury is a mathematics guy :)
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17:49:41pamauryarg, I can't make the imx233 work correctly for multiple block transfer with mcc
17:49:43pamaurymmc
17:49:57pamaurythe data is not valid, there is something wrong
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18:35:10pamauryarg, this is driving me crazy, it looks like the crc is included in the data instead of being stripped down by the ssp :-/
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18:46:40wodzeh, usb driver is a nightmare - I wrote ~350 lines already and I even didn't started usb_drv_send*()/usb_drv_recv() nor ISR
18:47:06pamaurymost of them are 600+ lines long :)
18:48:27wodzI wonder why there are 11bits to specify size of the transfer if max allowed is 512 bytes IIRC
18:48:47pamauryno, packet size != transfer size
18:49:01TheLemonMani have a function that iterates 240*320 times sending data to the lcd controller
18:49:14wodzI know, but this field seems to specify packet size
18:49:31TheLemonMancan i assume it's how the screen is updated or its just sand in the eyes ^
18:49:38pamauryfor iso, max packet size is 1024
18:50:00pamaurybut your controller doesn't handle iso
18:51:01kugelTheLemonMan: yes
18:51:03pamaurybut interrupt transfer can send 1024 byte packet
18:51:21TheLemonManbut it's sending the same byte all over the loop
18:51:25wodzTheLemonMan: I would expect to see dma transfer to lcd not simple iterations
18:51:58TheLemonManthen i wonder what the hell is this function for
18:52:07wodzclear lcd?
18:52:12pamauryTheLemonMan: is it the stmp chip ?
18:52:40kugelTheLemonMan: making the display grey? :)
18:53:03TheLemonManit's in this fuckin samsung bootloader, full of undocumented nonsense!
18:53:13TheLemonMani named it lcdMakeTheDisplayShine
18:53:18pamaurywell it makes sense
18:53:26kugelTheLemonMan: welcome to rockbox :)
18:53:30pamauryusing dma, you would need to fill a buffer, that's wasteful
18:53:36pamauryand slow
18:54:07wodzpamaury: usually you can setup dma with const src address
18:54:36pamauryas far as I know the stmp dma doesn't have such an option
18:54:42wodzwow
18:54:51wodzthat's weird
18:54:56pamaurywell not exactly
18:55:09TheLemonManmaybe they use good old memory access ?
18:55:35TheLemonMani see they or the fb address with 0x20000000
18:55:53pamaurythe thing is that this chip has so many dma master; but the lcdif one doesn't have this option I'm nearly sure so it's faster to write in pio mode if you are clearing the screen
18:55:57TheLemonManso maybe it's just memcpy n' glip
18:56:06TheLemonMan*flip
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18:57:41pamaurywodz: but this chip as a dedicated dma master for blitting, filling, etc
18:57:45pamaury*has
18:58:16wodzpamaury: in the code for s3c6400x we assume that in FS max packet size is 64 and in HS 512 bytes for any type of endpoint - is this correct?
18:59:21pamaurythis is correct for bulk
18:59:41pamauryfor interrupt the maximum is 1024 but I don't remember if it's mandatory or if you can use less
18:59:47pamauryI guess you can use less
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19:00:02wodzwhat about control?
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19:00:31pamauryyou must use 64 for control iirc
19:01:10pamaury(in FS, in HS you can use 8,16,32,64)
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19:02:27pamaurybut control is for EP0 only so it's special
19:02:31TheLemonManaye, i found the function they use to blit errors on screen
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19:13:32wodzhmm ISR for this controller gonna be the monster :-)
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19:31:42CIA-14New commit by pamaury (r30104): imx233/fuze+: ssp, dma, mmc now work properly, partially implement cpu frequency changing, implement panic waiting
19:32:32wodzpamaury: how do we support setup usb requests?
19:34:09pamauryof course, otherwise usb would not work !
19:34:28pamaurybasically a control transfer is a setup requets + optional data stage
19:34:46gevaertspamaury: congratulations!
19:35:25pamauryI'm going afk, gevaerts can answer your usb question wodz
19:35:29CIA-14r30104 build result: All green
19:35:34pamaurythanks !
19:36:04gevaertshm, that's a *long* time ago. I'm not sure if I remember any of that...
19:36:12wodzgevaerts: if I get setup interrupt what should I do in ISR?
19:36:51pamaurycann usb_core_control_something or similar
19:36:58pamauryhave a look at usb-arc for example
19:37:14pamaury(although it's a complicated controller)
19:37:31pamauryor s3c6400x which is simple/istic :)
19:39:03gevaertswodz: ARC copies the setup data to a safe place, clears all pending control transfers, and calls usb_core_control_request(). usb_core_control_request() then sends an event so things get handled later
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19:54:36kugelpamaury: what was your mistake?
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20:00:33rasherOkay, daily built, unmodified, android builds here: http://rasher.dk/rockbox/android/
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20:02:36B4gdercool
20:04:24kugelpwe could've had that long ago
20:05:02kugelpBTW, the irc log viewer has problems with some urls
20:05:04rasherProbably better that some random guy does it as long as there's no signing worked out
20:05:58kugelpiirc its worked out but not implemented yet
20:06:11rasherWell, implemented then :)
20:06:29rasherI'm not sure what your comment means then? "we could've had that long ago"?
20:08:26kugelpthat we could've offered debug signed builds like a year ago
20:08:57kugelpI thought we specifically don't want this officially
20:09:11B4gderthose are not official
20:09:18rasherI don't think we do. These are not official in any way
20:09:39B4gderand I think it is a good thing to provide, even while unofficial
20:10:59pixelmasideral: around?
20:11:06kugelpthey are not official, but officially cool
20:11:28*rasher blinks
20:12:03rasherThere are two situations: Rockbox provides debug signed builds, some guy provides debug signed Rockbox builds
20:12:09rasherThe first is obviously not a good idea
20:12:13rasherI don't see the problem with the latter
20:12:36rasherI'll add a disclaimer..
20:13:10kugelpI don't care if we distribute debug signed builds
20:13:55kugelpjust saying if providing (by whoever) them is cool then we could have done that long ago
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20:14:23B4gderso why didn't "we" ?
20:14:37kugelpdon't ask me
20:14:40rasherI thought it was generally agreed that they whould be properly signed
20:14:51sideralHi pixelma!
20:15:02B4gderto me it was always something that simply nobody made real
20:15:13B4gderuntil now
20:16:19pixelmasideral: got a hold of freqmod_r and he just pasted an answer mail to me that he said has sent
20:16:29freqmod_rtwo times
20:16:54sideralpixelma: to me?
20:17:02rasherSo I'm confused if I've stirred up some hornet's nest here
20:17:15pixelmasideral: yes - and there he is
20:18:02rasherShould we maybe take it to the mailing list or something?
20:18:10sideralHi freqmod_r! Thanks for chiming in. Looks like I need to check my spam folder...
20:18:13freqmod_rto sideral AT rockbox.org
20:18:14freqmod_r:P
20:18:28freqmod_rmaybe i sent it from the wrong server
20:18:29Lloreanrasher: I think the problem is that nobody actually knows who's *against* it, but everyone thinks *someone* was?
20:18:37rasherhaha, maybe
20:18:51rasherMaybe it's just that vague sense that it'd be more proper
20:19:04pixelmathe at-rockbox addresses only have been given out quite recently
20:20:04sideralfreqmod_r: And the answer was? Or do you prefer to keep up the suspense until I find that email? ;)
20:21:02TheLemonManaww, they are really using a framebuffer in ram that then gets sent word by word
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20:23:13sideralfreqmod_r: Indeed, two copies buried away in my webmail's spam folder. Thanks for your response!
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20:27:00pixelmafreqmod_r: the thing discussed mostly was if you were the original author of the wikipedia patch or not, the description in the tracker could be read both ways
20:27:11freqmod_rhmm
20:27:18freqmod_rmaybe it was based on an earlier patch
20:27:24freqmod_rbut it don't think so
20:27:32freqmod_rin that case it will only be some layout code
20:28:55*rasher sent something to the ml
20:30:21freqmod_ri think everything without explisit copyright is mine
20:30:38freqmod_rmaybe some of the rendering code is inspired/based on the text viewer plugin
20:31:43pixelmawhich doesn't sound like a big problem to me
20:32:14sideralfreqmod_r: That's fine I think. Perhaps you could take a quick look at the first patch in FS #4755 and send us a heads up if you notice anything suspicious. For now I'll work under the assumption that we can use the code.
20:32:15fs-bluebothttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/4755 Wikipedia (patches, unconfirmed)
20:32:23freqmod_ri am doing it
20:32:32freqmod_rit has a lot of copyright assignments
20:32:33sideralfreqmod_r: Thanks for contributing it BTW! I often use the plugin to impress my friends with my Clip+ ;)
20:32:53freqmod_rso i think that i would have done that with everything
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20:33:01freqmod_r*copyright credits
20:33:02wodzI usually use my daps to listen music :-)
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20:33:23sideralwodz: How boring! :)
20:33:36wodzhmm, maybe not - I hack much more often
20:33:48gevaertssideral: is that to impress those who don't seem impressed by doom on it?
20:33:56freqmod_ri donĀ“t know if i have written bbfuncs
20:34:01freqmod_r(safe read, crc etc)
20:34:01wodzlol
20:34:08sideralI used the Wikipedia plugin once on the beach to look up the finer details of printf formatting in order to change my tagnavi_custom.config using the Rockbox text editor :P
20:35:15freqmod_rhttp://open7x0.xnc.de/svnweb/fw-tools/blame/trunk/busybox-1.3.1/archival/libunarchive/check_header_gzip.c
20:35:22freqmod_rit is stolen from this
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20:35:39freqmod_ri think most of the gzip stuff is
20:35:43sideralgevaerts: I don't think Doom can impress anyone on the Clip+ ;)
20:36:04freqmod_ras mentioned in inflate.c
20:37:56freqmod_rotherwise it looks fine
20:38:13sideralfreqmod_r: Thanks for clearing that up! Cheers!
20:38:28Lloreanrasher: Does a debug signed app stop working after 6 months, or does it just mean you can't install that apk after it's expired?
20:38:38rasherI don't know
20:39:15CIA-14New commit by buschel (r30105): Use id3v2buf to read the title of MOD files. Avoids additional declaration of a 1KB buffer and saves a bit codesize as well.
20:39:16LloreanMan, I'd like it if we could make releases uninstallable after two more have happened. :)
20:39:27rasherheh
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20:41:23sideralfreqmod_r: Is FreqMod another nick of yours?
20:41:37freqmod_ryes
20:41:49freqmod_rhmm
20:41:55freqmod_rstrange it is in use
20:42:04freqmod_ri thought i registered it some time ago
20:42:06sideralyes, apparently by yourself
20:42:21freqmod_r:D
20:42:44sideralyep. I tried chatting you up there a few times, as well as on your XMPP accounts
20:43:07CIA-14r30105 build result: All green
20:43:08TheLemonManhow the hell is turned on a lcd panel ?
20:43:12freqmod_rarg it is another quassel core
20:43:23freqmod_ri need to get in and disable it autoconnecting
20:43:34freqmod_ri just have to remember the password to the core
20:46:26freqmod_rfound it :)
20:47:17sideralfreqmod_r: Yep, you're gone :)
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20:47:50sideralAnd there you are again :)
20:48:03freqmodnow on the other server
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20:52:17sideralFreqMod: I'd like to eventually (time permitting) help shepherd the plugin into Rockbox mainline. My next step will be to review what all the other people who host variants of your code on github and elsewhere have changed / improved
20:52:36freqmodhehe
20:52:43freqmodi hope it has improved
20:52:53freqmodat least the render code was horrible
20:53:19sideralThe most horrible parts typically remain unchanged for the longest time :)
20:54:54freqmod:D
20:55:09freqmodbut it was not very complete
20:55:31freqmodso hopefully somewone was tired of very bad formatting and has rewritten it
20:56:20*freqmod is writing object animation exporting support for the ogre blender exporter for a demo for http://solskogen.demoscene.no/
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21:49:34wodzgevaerts: does usb layer in rb sends zero size control packets if needed or is this driver responsibility?
21:51:55gevaertswodz: when are those sent again?
21:53:09wodzif I understand correctly you end ctrl data transaction with 0 packet if len%packet size == 0
21:53:40gevaertsAh, right. That's a driver thing (or hardware in e.g. ARC)
21:54:04wodzshit
21:55:56*gevaerts suspects that the usb layer in rockbox could well have been quite different if the first driver hadn't been ARC
21:58:10wodz0 packet thing is only for control transfers or is this some general rule?
21:59:22wodzgevaerts: ^
21:59:23gevaertsIf I remember correctly that's for all transfers
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22:20:03TheLemonManpamaury, i discovered that we both work with 7783 lcds but the command set is pretty different
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23:05:04pamauryTheLemonMan: you mean the commands sent ? If there are the same, my command set should work for example
23:05:37pamaurykugel: I pretty much ran into all possible problems :) And the final problem was an error in a #define for a register field :-/
23:05:47kugelahh :(
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23:06:26TheLemonManyep, but there are nearly no matches between my command set and yours
23:08:06pamaurymy commands match the datasheet as far as I checked
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23:10:26wodzcan I call semafore_release() without prior semafore_wait() ?
23:10:40TheLemonManmeh, i cbf as long as they work as expected heh
23:11:19pamaurywodz: I think not, I don't remember would told me that, jhMikeS perhaps ?
23:11:46pamaurys/woudl/who
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23:20:34pamauryTheLemonMan: call and jump can take arguments, no need to add extra tests in your patch :)
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23:21:11TheLemonManoh, so there's no difference between the two ?
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23:22:10TheLemonMani taught that call was more a 'branch and link' so used for functions
23:22:11pamauryno
23:22:30pamauryexcept for the semantics as far as know
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23:30:08CIA-14New commit by pamaury (r30106): elftosb: add support for jumps/calls with one argument ...
23:33:59CIA-14r30106 build result: All green
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23:53:04CIA-14New commit by buschel (r30107): Do not use double/float calculations but predefined tables in mod codec. Reduces codesize by several kilobytes.
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23:57:20CIA-14r30107 build result: 1 errors, 1 warnings (buschel committed)
23:57:54Buschelnot mine

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