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#rockbox log for 2011-07-27

00:01:10sideralalso, tc_stat.commit_delayed == 1
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00:19:10sideralPossibly one ingredient of this issue is that the DB update cannot commit because the dircache buffer used for this purpose is too small, and then the dircache rescan fails for some reason.
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00:21:09kugelSlasheri, sideral: could my recent find that tree code changes d_entrys of the dircache (or fat code) directly? it removes the .talk extension
00:22:46kugel+'cause problems'
00:22:53sideralwow, that's ugly :) but I think it's unrelated, I don't use .talk clips
00:24:57sideralI think it must be related to some memset / memmove during the rescan, or some allocator failure. Basically all the formats allocated by tagtree have evaporated. formats[] still has pointers, but the display_formats are filled with 0
00:25:46kugelthe current allocator cannot fail
00:26:01sideralperhaps it can double-allocate regions?
00:26:14kugelno
00:26:47kugelunless you bypass the allocator with direct audiobuf access
00:27:26kugelsideral: my gsoc patches convert those to use the allocator, and panic if something is doing double-alloc
00:27:35sideralI can't run another gdb session with hardware watchpoints unless I finish the current one, which I'm afraid to do because of possible nonreproducibility.
00:27:43kugelperhaps have a look if applying those patches reveal anything?
00:27:59sideralgood idea
00:30:14sideralwhat else could I check in this session? I'm working under the assumption that the dircache rescan has botched things up
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01:22:31skx`gnite all
01:23:24skx`i just installed rockbox for the 1st in my life... it was not supported for the ipod nano 2g in the past. but wow... what can i say? it simply rocks :)) never seen such easy installer too
01:23:30skx`many thanks! :)
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01:25:24HaimNJdGordon|: I tried your patch, it works well (there are some bugs but I check why they happen)
01:25:58HaimNHow can I set that the main menu will be different from other menus? I suppose I could do it with the command %cs but I could not do it.
01:28:25HaimNThat's what I tried: http://pastebin.com/6ziaJwxL
01:28:37JdGordon|yes, you need to use %cs to get the main menu
01:28:56JdGordon|tell me any bugs you find in the patch tracker
01:31:02[Saint]HaimN: But, come in here first and verify that they actually are bugs, first.
01:31:31[Saint]Ask either myself (if I'm around) or JdGordon| (if he's around) and we'll try make sure its not just a syntax error first.
01:32:05HaimN[Saint]: OK
01:32:21[Saint]I'd like to be playing with this myself presently, but I'm being stern on myself and crossing off unfinished things from my ToDo list before starting others.
01:33:14JdGordon|also remember the patch isnt finished :) so let me know things that need adding also
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01:33:58[Saint](Tag needed: "%Xx(Do_everything_I_want_for_me)")
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01:34:02[Saint]:P
01:34:33JdGordon|thats *next*
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01:49:16SagaciousKJBAny Gigabeat users/developers present?
01:58:43saratogaif you have a question, its best to just ask it
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02:01:40saratogapamaury: opps didn't mean to delete a post from that new ports thread you were reading
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02:20:58jhMikeSSagaciousKJB: I don't know. Maybe.
02:21:22SagaciousKJBI've got a weird issue with my gigabeat
02:21:37SagaciousKJBOnly found one other person that has wrote about it on the forums with no response
02:22:26saratogaonce again, if you're got a question, its best to ask it
02:23:59JdGordon|[Saint]: how about just having the popup toggle instead of timing out? so press and it appears, press again and it disappears?
02:24:10JdGordon|that would solve the accidental press annoyance
02:28:38HaimNJdGordon| or [Saint] I go to sleep now, Maybe tomorrow I'll send you the bugs. For now, can you look here: http://pastebin.com/bt6UzTKW To see what I did not do well?
02:28:39HaimNI have the file tango_icons.32.bmp in the icons folder
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02:29:53jhMikeSwell now
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02:41:16jhMikeSsaratoga: why fix the 14-bit samples for only mic?
02:41:50saratogajhMikeS: was i supposed to change it for peak meter too?
02:42:17jhMikeSit's 14-bit for FM too
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02:44:24saratogajhMikeS: ok didn't realize that since the task only mentions problems with mic
02:44:48saratogaso i just need to remove the check for mono?
02:44:57jhMikeSI've pondered dumping DMA altogether for recording and using regular i2s ints
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02:45:38jhMikeSyeah, I think so
02:49:04jhMikeSit's also possible that the callback could be called with 0 transfer size (which is expected)
02:51:01saratogaalright i'll look at it later, feeling too tired now
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04:30:14[Saint]HaimN: All I can see now (just looking quickly) is something that annoys me about conditional statements, which isn't really "wrong", just...annoying.
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04:30:47[Saint]If there's no "false" condition, you can just do "%Xx<this tag is true>"
04:30:52SagaciousKJBDoes anyone know if this issue has been resolved? http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,11530.0.html
04:31:05[Saint]there's no need to list an empty "false" like:
04:31:20[Saint]"%Xx<this tag is true|>"
04:32:42[Saint]additionaly...."%xd(b,%LI)" looks wrong to me, but, this may well be valid syntax now, I'll need to refer to the patch or something I might have missed.
04:33:04LloreanSagaciousKJB: Has anyone even confirmed that problem happens for anyone other than the poster? Is there a proper bug report?
04:33:10JdGordon|[Saint]: that syntax is fine
04:33:16SagaciousKJBLlorean, not that I've found
04:33:25SagaciousKJBThat is the only reference to it I can find
04:33:36[Saint]JdGordon|: Ah, yes...I was just about to retract that statement.
04:34:23[Saint]it's the short way of going "%Xd(Ba)|%Xd(Bb)....etc...) which I actually don't like at all.
04:34:34[Saint]But this can be forgiven when there's 32 conditions ;)
04:34:42LloreanSagaciousKJB: Then it's rather hard to know if it's even an issue, or not just his hardware being faulty in some manner.
04:35:13SagaciousKJBWell, it's happening to me too in the exact manner he describes
04:35:19SagaciousKJBShould I file a bug report?
04:35:21[Saint]*s/%Xd/%xd/
04:35:22LloreanA bug report should be filed, and maybe some effort by the person experiencing the problem to find someone with the same player to confirm/deny the presence of the issue on their device.
04:36:54[Saint]There's a chance its connected to the F40 secifically...maybe.
04:37:06SagaciousKJBAny advice on where else to look? This is the only person I've found that is having the same problem and I can't even confirm that he's using the same version of rockbox as I can, just the same player
04:37:10[Saint]I've never had any of my devices panic during an OS reboot/start while connected.
04:37:18SagaciousKJB*as I am
04:37:23[Saint]makes me think the OS is doing something silly.
04:38:01[Saint]the PC and the netbook don't happen to run the same OS do they, if so, what OS is it?
04:38:17[Saint](and could you try with another?)
04:38:29SagaciousKJBI'm not sure about the person that made that post, that's just someone else who I found that has the same issue
04:38:56SagaciousKJBAs far as my stuff goes... It happens on my laptop with Ubuntu 9.04, my desktop with Ubuntu 8.0.4 and my friend's desktop with Windows XP on it
04:39:16[Saint]right, pretty safe to discount OS sillyness, then. Nevermind me ;)
04:40:02SagaciousKJBHeh, okay, it wouldn't really have surprised me though
04:40:22SagaciousKJBI actually can't get it to repeat as consistently as that guy can
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04:47:52[Saint]JdGordon|: "tomegtt" wants a ban.
04:48:21JdGordon|link?
04:48:29[Saint]http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,19184.msg183233.html#msg183233
04:48:33[Saint]http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,27941.msg183232.html#msg183232
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04:48:48[Saint]there's more too...but one's enough.
04:48:58JdGordon|akismet is really fucking wierd
04:49:07JdGordon|thos eposts are hidden in my view!
04:49:16[Saint]blocking actual posts and letting spam through? ;)
04:49:27[Saint]Oh...I see them in "recent posts"
04:49:39[Saint]then I can follow the link through to the thread.
04:49:57JdGordon|yeah, they didnt show up at all, or in recent posts
04:50:00JdGordon|anyway, he's nuked
04:50:14[Saint]Sweet. I wonder why I could see them, then.
04:50:17[Saint]"meh".
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04:55:58saratogaweird, grep doesn't even find that panic message in the source
04:59:00SagaciousKJBThe verbatim error message is actually "*PANIC* mount:0"
04:59:56saratogaSagaciousKJB: is this an older build?
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05:00:04saratogaperhaps that message is no longer in the source
05:00:28SagaciousKJBI'm not sure what the guy in the post is using, but mine is v 3.9
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05:05:40jhMikeSI've gotten that stuff after disconnecting USB on my F40 as well. It's ok afterwards but it's annoying. I don't know what causes it other than maybe the USB bridge still has control of the disk for some reason.
05:06:08jhMikeSIt happens here and there, not every time.
05:06:38SagaciousKJBDo you need to switch your battery off and on before you can power on again too?
05:07:24jhMikeSDon't recall exactly. I think I can hit power and reboot.
05:08:10jhMikeSIn any case, there's no out without a hard reset
05:08:45jhMikeSand it's been that way since I can remember
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05:11:18SagaciousKJBWell, must not be a huge problem then
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05:11:34LloreanjhMikeS: I've never seen that error, but it's been ages since I've even known where my F *is* but it sounds like something that must've been introduced at some point.
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05:11:38SagaciousKJBIt's only a slight annoyance to me because I lost the bottom panel of my player a long time ago, so the switch is only accesible with a pin or something
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05:12:00jhMikeSI tried having it wait longer, but things didn't change
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05:12:33SagaciousKJBMaybe I'll try using lsof or something to make sure nothing is accessing it before disconnecting
05:12:37jhMikeSLlorean: if it was at *some point*, that point was pretty close to when the port was new :-)
05:12:46SagaciousKJBBut I don't know what to tell my friend about XP... He insists he used the "safely remove" feature
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05:13:53jhMikeSIt happens with "safely remove", which I just use out of habit
05:13:57LloreanjhMikeS: Maybe I just didn't use USB often enough to encounter it, but I was using my Fs pretty regularly for at least a year or so after the port became fairly stable/usable, and updating them from time to time.
05:14:51LloreanI basically used my Fs constantly until I got an S.
05:15:07SagaciousKJBCould it be a difference in the bootloader?
05:15:43jhMikeSSagaciousKJB: I've encountered it the same way in both FW and BL
05:16:09SagaciousKJBFW and BL?
05:16:20jhMikeSfirmware and bootloader
05:17:01SagaciousKJBI'm not sure I understand the difference
05:17:22SagaciousKJBI meant maybe I have an out-dated bootloader?
05:17:58jhMikeSthe bootloader (FWImgxxx.dat −− iirc the name) loads and runs the rockbox binary (firmware)
05:18:52jhMikeSI've used my own bootloader builds and still nothing changed
05:19:09SagaciousKJBHmm, weird
05:19:20SagaciousKJBWell, as long as it doesn't do anything really bad
05:19:31jhMikeSNever had it raise an issue
05:19:47SagaciousKJBThe only real problem it presents for me is that I have to reset the battery to be able to power back up
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08:29:21Buschelanything speaking against clsoing FS #10057 ? this is not really a bug, and it can be easily solved when using embedded album art
08:29:23fs-bluebothttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/10057 album art fails to display (bugs, unconfirmed)
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08:30:18*ukleinek is subscribed to rockbox-dev since a few days and didn't receive any mail via this list.
08:30:32ukleinekIs this correct or is there a problem in the mailsetup somewhere?
08:30:58ukleinekthis would maybe explain why I don't get the confirmation mail from FS, too
08:31:44ukleinekI got the confirmation mail for the ML and the "Welcome to the "rockbox-dev" mailing list" mail though
08:31:52JdGordon|that list is usually quiet
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08:32:34ukleinekJdGordon: was there a mail since "Sat, 23 Jul 2011 13:30:57 +0200"? (That's the date of the welcome mail)
08:33:14JdGordonhttp://www.rockbox.org/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2011-07/
08:33:25ukleinekJdGordon: ah, obvious idea
08:33:34JdGordonsorry http://www.rockbox.org/mail/archive/rockbox-dev-archive-2011-07/
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14:59:54amiconnThe site seems to be back up
14:59:59[Saint]HaimN: Yeah...you can't do "%? Cs <% Lb (a, 44,50, tile) |% Vi (-, 0,0 ,-,-, 1)>", what you need to do is use %VI for the UI viewport which can be used with an identifier, and use the identifier for the %Lb viewport correctly.
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15:00:57[Saint]So you'd do "%?cs<%Lb(a)|%VI(foo)>"
15:01:04[Saint]"% Lb (a, 44,50, tile) "
15:01:38[Saint]"%% VI (foo, 0,0 ,-,-, 1)"
15:01:58[Saint]whoops...lets try that again...
15:02:06[Saint]"%?cs<%Lb(a)|%VI(foo)>"
15:02:20[Saint]"%Lb (a,44,50,tile) "
15:02:31[Saint]"%VI (foo,0,0,-,-,1)"
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15:04:09HaimNOkay, I think I understand, I'll try it, thank you!
15:04:23[Saint]the manual should outline the way to work with custom UI viewports, either way, you can't call a viewport with a conditional in that way. You need to give the viewport you are calling an identifier, and call it with the conditional statement with its identifier
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15:08:09HaimNI read the manual: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/CustomWPS but I must have missed it, thank you again!
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15:09:36[Saint]HaimN: This should give you an idea: http://pastebin.com/B5W79REd
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15:11:26[Saint]%Vl(identifier,..... to "preload" a viewport, %VI(identifier,.... to preload a UI viewport.
15:12:16[Saint]%Vd(identifier) and %Vi(identifier) repectively to call them.
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15:15:34neothecatgood morning EST. i looked on the IpodStatus page, and i did not see anything explicit on the Classic 120G. is rockbox stable on this iPod? thank you...
15:15:45[Saint]No.
15:16:12[Saint]Its technically classed as "unusable", but it plays music in realtime and has most features enabled.
15:16:23HaimN[Saint]: Yes, I saw this in the manual, thanks anyway
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15:16:43Torneneothecat: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IpodPort
15:16:55TorneIpodStatus says at the top "historical and mostly out of date" :)
15:17:28[Saint]neothecat: http://www.freemyipod.org/wiki/EmCORE_Installation/iPodClassic
15:17:33[Saint]this is the page you want.
15:17:43[Saint]rockbox on the classic needs emCORE to run.
15:17:47[Saint]there is no dualboot.
15:17:56[Saint]installation WILL wipe the ipod.
15:18:41[Saint]and installation is NOT handled by RbUtil. It is a manual process.
15:18:56neothecatcan i reinstall the original firmware (via iTunes), or am i risking bricking it?
15:19:14[Saint]You can reinstall the original firmware, yes.
15:19:39Torneyou can't brick it, iirc
15:19:47[Saint]A restore via iTunes will prompt an emCORE uninstallation on the next boot, then the iPod will be "an iPod" again.
15:19:48Torneyou just can't have both installed at once.
15:20:06neothecatok, great. i used to use rockbox on an iRiver, until it was stolen, and i really can't stand the iTunes or the iPod software, and i loved rockbox. guess i am not accomplishing much owrk today... :)
15:20:10neothecatthanks for all your answers.
15:20:17[Saint]Torne: You *can* get it into a state where you completely trash the device info and it forgets what model iPod it is.
15:20:25[Saint]but, you can fudge that info back on there.
15:21:05[Saint]You need to really put some effort into fucking that up, though.
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15:21:33[Saint]its only happened once and it was by someone throwing random cannands at the device through the emCORE console hoping to get it to work on his own.
15:21:42Torneah
15:21:52Tornethat's close enough, i feel :)
15:21:59*[Saint] nods. ;)
15:22:17[Saint]If you *actually* follow the install instructions word for word, all should be well ;)
15:22:31[Saint]this is a challenge for some people though.
15:22:39[Saint];_
15:22:49[Saint]* :)
15:23:10neothecatthis is my last week at my current job. i have the time to do this today...
15:23:43[Saint]right. If you have any problems with the installation, head over to #freemyipod-support
15:24:42[Saint]after the install, and anything that isn't emCORE related (emCORE is in a sense the Rockbox "bootloader" for the Classic) then here is the right place for support.
15:26:40neothecatwow. this is probably one the most helpful, non-condescending IRC channels i have been to. thanks!
15:27:15Tornewow. that's a really uncommon sentiment ;)
15:27:26[Saint]I was just thinking that... ;)
15:27:27Tornewe can try and be more condescending to meet your expectations? :)
15:28:38[Saint]Its much nicer than "Rockbox is a hoax/virus/bag of shit", much appreciated.
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15:33:27[Saint]Torne: : feel like changing the topic back?
15:33:35[Saint]It appears to be back in action.
15:33:37Torneyeah i was going to then i forgot
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15:33:54[Saint]Oh, sorry, didn't realise you'd noticed.
15:33:57Topic"3.9 released! | Please read before speaking: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IrcGuidelines | Please direct offtopic/social chat to #rockbox-community | This channel is logged at http://www.rockbox.org/irc" by Torne (~torne@rockbox/developer/Torne)
15:34:02Mode"#rockbox -o Torne" by Torne (~torne@rockbox/developer/Torne)
15:34:02Tornenono, well reminded
15:34:06Tornei noticed, like, half an hour ago
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15:34:09Torneand then got distracted :)
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15:36:50SagaciousKJBSo I found out what causes the "*PANIC* mount:0" error with the Gigabeat F40
15:36:56SagaciousKJBWell, more along the lines of how to prevent it
15:37:36SagaciousKJBApparently when connected to the USB, when the LED screen goes dim, if you remove the USB at that point it will display the error. If you press the touch pad to make the screen display the USB symbol and then remove the USB drive, it loads back to the main menu no problem
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15:43:12[7][Saint]: on the classic, iTunes will directly install the apple firmware through DFU and wipe our stuff away
15:43:33[7]so no action required on our part (which could potentially go wrong)
15:43:36[7]unlike the nano2g
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16:01:37ukleinekTorne: not that it matters much, but you can let ChanServ change the topic, too.
16:02:01Tornemore effort
16:02:07Tornei would have to copypaste it
16:02:20Torneif i change it myself i can edit it without
16:02:27Tornei have aliases to give me ops and so on, so hey
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16:03:43gartralhey all, I'm having a slight scare here.. my E250 doesn't appear too be taking a charge with a new battery. and the power indicator in RB is blinking..
16:05:11gartralwhat's the bare minimum an E250's battery is supposed too read for voltage?
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16:24:22*Strife89 attempts to help out with the forum Precut discussion. http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12203
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16:40:52saratogaStrife89: thats not really what a limiter does though
16:41:10saratogausually a limiter is something that clamps signals above a certain level, not reduce the volume
16:41:54Strife89Right, and I left that bit in.
16:42:21Strife89The idea was to leave something searchable for users like STU103
16:42:44saratogawell if someone searches for limiter they should probably not find precut since its not a limiter and doesn't do what a limiter does :)
16:43:02Strife89But for all intents and purposes, it *can*. :)
16:43:23saratogait can limit volume to some max, but thats not really what a limiter does
16:43:32saratogasee: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limiter
16:43:36Strife89I mean, there's no other setting that is literally a limiter, so this is the next best thing.
16:43:45saratogaa limiter is a real thing in audio
16:44:05saratogathat guy just decided to call what he wanted a limiter
16:44:13saratogabut an actual limiter does something else
16:44:31Strife89Alright, well.
16:44:54Strife89What should the section say, then?
16:45:50saratogaI would probably say something like "Precut reduces the global volume in rockbox such that xdB of gain will reduce the maximum volume by xdB"
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16:47:26Strife89Sounds alright, although that could be confusing.
16:48:24saratogalet me try editing the tex file
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16:52:48Strife89saratoga: How about http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12203?getfile=23879
16:54:05saratogaStrife89: updated the task at the same time
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17:19:59saratogaif everyone is ok with those changes, i'll commit them
17:21:14linuxstbsaratoga: There's a typo - "positve"
17:21:47saratogafixed
17:22:49linuxstbAlso, British English uses "cancelling" (I think...)
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17:32:37neothecatif i use the EmCore bootloader on my iPod Classic 6G, can i use the latest rockbox release?
17:33:58ukleineksideral: it's not my umlaut, I tried to register without it, still no success.
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17:34:43[7]neothecat: yes
17:35:21saratogalinuxstb: i don't really know british english, so feel free to correct it
17:35:24neothecatwhich firmware do i want to use?
17:36:11[7]the build on the freemyipod website has been tested with the corresponding emcore build, but usually all (newer) rockbox builds should work
17:37:22neothecatshould i use the iPod 4th Gen firmware?
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17:44:43sideralukleinek: that's really unfortunate, apologies −− but there's nothing I can do. Did you see my remark regarding disposable email addresses?
17:45:37AlexPlinuxstb, saratoga: Yes, cancelling with two Ls
17:45:48AlexPOther than that fine
17:46:20ukleineksideral: no
17:47:04ukleineksideral: but actually I want to receive FS notifications, no?
17:50:09[7]neothecat: no, you need to use an ipod classic build
17:50:59neothecati guess i am trouble find it. i went to current releases, but it's not there...
17:54:00AlexPneothecat: That's because the ipod classic is considered unusable
17:54:06AlexPSo we don't provide builds for it
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18:00:42saratogahttp://build.rockbox.org/data/rockbox-ipodclassic.zip
18:00:43saratogamagic
18:02:42sideralukleinek: yeah −− I actually advised *against* using disposable email addresses, as they may be filtered out
18:02:45CIA-14New commit by saratoga (r30216): Explain in more detail what the precut option for EQ does, and also mention that it requires EQ to be enabled to use it.
18:03:06neothecatsaratoga: it's magic if you had no idea that is where it was located...
18:03:45saratogayeah we don't list ports that are unusable to prevent people from trying them and breaking their players
18:03:50saratogabut they're still on the download server
18:04:11[7]they're linked on http://build.rockbox.org/dev.cgi
18:04:23[7](the column headings)
18:04:50lasserhi. lua again, i hope i don't annoy you. rb.get_action(rb.contexts.CONTEXT_KEYBOARD, -1) waits until a key is preesed, is that right?
18:06:22lassers/preesed/pressed/
18:06:49CIA-14r30216 build result: All green
18:07:59saratogaalways afraid i've screwed something up when committing changes to the manual
18:08:03lasserBut I want to draw a running clock (xx min : xx sec) while waiting for a key. How is that possible?
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18:09:49saratogano idea about LUA, but check if the key is pressed, update the clock, sleep, and then check again
18:10:01saratogatheres probably a non-blocking way to read the buttons in LAU
18:10:03saratogaLUA
18:11:09saratogaactually, that -1 is probably the timeout, change it to some small positive number
18:11:12saratogaor 0
18:12:13saratogaTimeout can be TIMEOUT_NOBLOCK to return immediatly
18:12:29saratogathats probably equal to 0, but better to use the define (assuming they work with lua)
18:15:04lassersaratoga: setting the -1 to 1 does the trick. thank you!
18:28:36ukleineksideral: my email should not be on that list
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18:36:02aitorguesti've been translating some rockbox strings to basque language
18:36:16aitorguestcan anyone add basque to http://translate.rockbox.org/
18:36:53aitorguestor where can i send my basque.lang file?
18:39:52AlexPaitorguest: You can submit it to flyspray
18:40:00AlexP(the bug/patch tracker)
18:40:05AlexPAnd thanks :)
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19:20:38CIA-14r30217 build result: All green
19:23:23saratogaare the swedes back yet?
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20:11:34Buschelsaratoga: I would like to close FS #11083, there was no response since more than a year. w/o a file we cannot work on this stuff....
20:11:35fs-bluebothttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11083 WAV problem with new Rockbox build & video iPod 60/80GB (bugs, waiting)
20:11:47Buschelas we say in german "keine Arme, keine Kekse" :)
20:11:51saratogago for it
20:16:39AlexPBuschel: Anything like that should be closed IMO
20:16:47AlexPIn far less than a year
20:16:48Buscheldone
20:19:34saratogadigging through our ASF parser i'm really getting confused
20:19:52saratogaours never agrees with the MS one about the number of bytes, but its usually close
20:20:00saratogabut on files that don't parse right its way off
20:20:02BuschelI am also wondering what to do with FS #11997. in fact there are two users reporting an issue with WPSes since swithcing to 3.8. I could never reproduce it... finally one of those users changed his album arts to jpg and everything worked fine for him...
20:20:02fs-bluebothttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11997 Album Art corrupted since 3.8 with some WPS (bugs, unconfirmed)
20:21:44Buschelmissing reply / info since 7 weeks -> FS #11957. I would like to close this as well
20:21:44fs-bluebothttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11957 IPOD 5G RB 3.7.1 issue with ONKYO DS-A1 (bugs, unconfirmed)
20:22:35BuschelI see no sense in keeping reports open if there is no further reaction or detail given to be able to really investigate the cause
20:27:59saratogaso for wma_128k.wma, rockbox adds 19 bytes to the end of every ASF packet . . .
20:28:08saratogabut the file decodes correctly
20:29:30saratogawhich would make sense if it were just the header size, but if you add the header each packet is slightly larger then that . . .
20:30:23Buschelsaratoga: is FS #12201 (new) just another case of FS #11231 ?
20:30:24fs-bluebothttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12201 Sound garbled on wma tracks (bugs, unconfirmed)
20:30:24fs-bluebothttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11231 Skipping and stuttering in low bitrate .WMA files (bugs, unconfirmed)
20:30:45saratogaBuschel: i thought so, but looking at the parser output i think its different
20:30:59Buschelok, se you want to keep both
20:31:02saratogathe parser doesn't error out, instead I think the codec is not init'ed correctly
20:32:04saratogait almost sounds like the wrong transform sizes or something are being uses
20:34:04saratogaby the way, Sean's test program is really helpful here . . .
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20:50:03saratogawow weird, the decoder produces half as many samples as it should, but still parses every packet without reporting an error
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