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03:30:54mercutio22AlexP: thanks for the suggestion earlier today! I have found the clip+ device
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18:41:16CIA-14New commit by buschel (r30284): Remove all IRAM attributes from libGME to be able to restart the IRAM optimization on a clean code base. As first step move the sample buffers to IRAM ...
18:43:40CIA-14r30284 build result: All green
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20:12:52padavoineo7 encountering a bug with the database, it's reporting 309 more tracks when i have in the "building database... N found" dialog and hanging with completion status: "-1%" in the debug menu
20:13:05padavoine*309 more tracks than i actually have
20:13:27padavoineany help appreciated. running a custom 3.9 with the Fuze v2 USB patch
20:16:01gevaertspadavoine: it doesn't count found *tracks*, but files, so the count also includes files in .rockbox. Those don't end up in the database because there's a .database_ignore file
20:16:11gevaertsDo you have actual audio tracks on the device?
20:16:27padavoineuh
20:16:32padavoineyep
20:16:34padavoinei have 3509
20:16:41padavoineit's reporting 3908 total
20:16:48padavoinethe 3509 are all on the micro SD
20:16:58gevaertshm, ok
20:17:09padavoinei heard of a bug with it never completing when no tracks are on the device, so i added a track to the internal memory, didn't help
20:17:20gevaertsok, so it's not that
20:17:24padavoinealso enabled metadata log but it seems to have all my tracks so i doubt it's hanging on sthing
20:17:33padavoinei mean, hanging on one particular track
20:17:50gevaertshm
20:17:58padavoineas i said i'm using my own build but i literally did nothing else than patch usb so i doubt that's it. haven't tried the official build though
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20:20:10gevaertsI'm not an expert on the database and I don't use it myself, so I can't really help further. I'd try an official build though (also a current build, not just 3.9), and if that doesn't help try to get hold of one of the database people (sideral or Slasheri spring to mind)
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20:20:34AlexPMaybe try checking the disk for errors too, you never know
20:21:45padavoinewhat do you mean by current build, not just 3.9?
20:21:48sideralpadavoine: padavoine: does the database actually work? is it just the count that is wrong?
20:22:00padavoineand AlexP, if you mean a chkdsk, I just formatted from the original fw
20:22:14AlexPpadavoine: 3.9 is the most recent release, a new current build is produced on every code change
20:22:14padavoinesideral: no, it's stuck on building database.... 3908 FOUND
20:22:47padavoineAlexP: right, I built from SVN 1h ago so I'm fresh
20:22:56gevaertsThen it's not 3.9 :)
20:23:10sideralWhenever you enter the database from the main menu, it tells you that message?
20:23:16padavoinesideral: exactly
20:23:23AlexPpadavoine: Yes, but I think what gevaerts meant is to try a non-modified current build, not that it should change anything here
20:23:39AlexPAnyway, just listen to sideral, he's the database man these days :)
20:23:39sideralHave a look at the DB debug screen please
20:23:53padavoineAlexP: yep, I guess I should give it a shot. I'll see if sideral has any suggestions first.
20:24:16padavoineJust FYI: running r30283M
20:24:50sideralSystem -> Debug -> Database
20:25:07sideralwhat do the first few lines say?
20:25:08padavoine-1%
20:25:11padavoineinitalized yes
20:25:12padavoineready no
20:25:15padavoinecache no
20:25:26sideraland the last few lines?
20:25:37padavoinecurfile: −−-
20:25:39padavoinecommit step: 0
20:25:41padavoinedelayed: no
20:25:44padavoinequeue length: 0
20:26:19sideralhmm... does rebooting change this in any way?
20:26:30padavoinetried previously, let me give it another shot
20:27:02padavoineheh it's comitting now
20:27:21padavoinereboot leads to "database not ready" and asks me to initialize
20:27:29padavoineafter saying "comitting 1/9" on boot
20:27:30siderallooks like the commit it failing
20:28:16sideralplease make a backup of the /.rockbox/database*.* files for later inspection :)
20:28:31padavoinehasn't generated any
20:28:39padavoinenvm it has
20:28:59sideraland then delete /.rockbox/database_tmp.tcd
20:29:23padavoinewant them uploaded somewhere?
20:29:45sideralmaybe later. first check whether that solves the issue
20:29:53padavoinealright deleted, do i reinit?
20:30:13sideralyes, please
20:30:33padavoinedoing so. out of curiosity what are the different database* files?
20:30:58padavoinehey, it's comitting
20:31:02sideralThey contain the various columns of the database entries
20:31:32padavoineso what was wrong / is there anything i should do to prevent it from happening again?
20:31:46padavoineok actually, nvm, it did the same thing again
20:31:55padavoinecomitting up to 2/9, then hanging on building database
20:31:59sideralhttp://www.rockbox.org/wiki/TagcacheDBFormat has a pretty complete documentation
20:32:10padavoineah ty i'll read
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20:32:15sideralhanging?
20:32:27gevaertsMaybe a silly question, but when you put an audio file on the internal storage, you didn't put it in .rockbox?
20:32:48padavoinei did, in .rockbox/db_fix
20:32:52AlexPaha
20:32:53padavoinewith a database.unignore file in there too
20:32:57AlexPahoo
20:32:59padavoineshould i not have?
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20:33:11padavoinethe manual says to put music files in .rockbox iirc
20:33:14sideralthe "DB commit hangs if no music is present" bug should not hit if something is on the SD card
20:33:22AlexPpadavoine: no, it says *NOT* to
20:33:45padavoinei was convinced it was the opposite, in fact i was surprised that it would say to do so heh
20:33:59padavoinei'll try moving it although according to sideral it wouldn't make a difference
20:34:20AlexPI don't know how to make that more obvious, but a surprising number of people don't read it properly
20:34:42sideralAlexP: maybe by giving a correct example?
20:34:53gevaertsIf there's a database.unignore file that should be fine, but you never know
20:34:55AlexPsideral: A correct example is anywhere else
20:35:07AlexPpeople just need to read
20:35:19sideralI know, but the users need another hint it seems :)
20:35:21AlexPbut yeah, maybe I can make it more bold or something
20:35:45padavoineoh, the only reason they say not to put in .rockbox is due to the database.ignore?
20:35:54AlexPAlso, it is hidden by default
20:35:55sideralanyway padavoine, what do you mean by "it hangs"? you can cancel the splash by pressing a button, right?
20:36:02padavoineyeah ofc, but then i can't access the b
20:36:03padavoine*db
20:36:05AlexPSo you don't see it in the filebrowser
20:36:24padavoineif i try to go to the db from main menu i get the same hanging splash
20:36:47sideralwhat does the DB debug screen say now? any differences?
20:37:04padavoineinit yes
20:37:06padavoineready no
20:37:09padavoinecache no
20:37:13padavoineram: 0 / N
20:37:17padavoine-1%
20:37:19padavoinecurrfile −−-
20:37:25padavoinestep 0 delayed no queuel ength 0
20:37:27padavoine*queue length
20:38:09gevaertsrockbox doesn't really care. If you *really* want your files in .rockbox, nothing will go wrong (as long as you use database.unignore or don't use the database, and set appropriate visibility options), but you can't easily remove the directory anymore for a clean reinstall and things like that
20:38:12padavoineis the .tmp file where it stores the result of browsing through the filetree before comitting to the database1-2-3 files?
20:38:22sideralso no differences :)
20:38:28sideralyes
20:38:29padavoineyeah, same as previously idd
20:38:41padavoinek gevaerts good to know
20:38:59sideralOK, please file a bug report and attach the database*.* files please
20:39:15sideralwhat kind of DAP is this on?
20:39:22padavoinefuze v2
20:39:30sideralOK
20:41:02padavoineshould i specify player type?
20:41:14sideralyeah, please select "AMSv2"
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20:41:29padavoinealright, and should I try with a non-custom build before I post it or should I just go ahead?
20:41:37padavoineand should I mention it's a patched bulid
20:41:39padavoine*build?
20:41:40sideralsorry for the hassle, by the way :)
20:42:01padavoineare you kidding? I haven't written a single line of code and I'm enjoying the single best DAP firmware I can think of
20:42:08sideralis this a vanilla SVN build?
20:42:09padavoinegz on the hard work
20:42:22padavoineNo, I used the v2 USB-PIO patch
20:42:28padavoineother than that it's vanilla
20:42:51sideralIt'd be better if you'd verify the problem with a plain SVN build
20:43:16padavoinealright, i'll do so now
20:43:38padavoinerockbox will ignore anything not called .rockbox right? that is, i can rename my current build .rockbox_bak and it won't interfere, c/d?
20:43:46sideralInteresting that the USB-PIO patch works for you, BTW :) I didn't have any luck with it on a Linux host
20:43:56sideralyep
20:44:05padavoineyeah i heard people couldn't get it to work on *nix, works fine on 64-bit 7 here
20:44:22padavoineare you a dev btw?
20:44:42sideralyes I am
20:44:53padavoinewhat kind of programming experience is required to contribute?
20:45:42sideralwe have contributors that cannot code at all :) they help with user support, the manual, the infrastructure and so on
20:45:59padavoineand code-wise?
20:46:12gevaertsDepends on what you want to work on
20:46:16sideralyou need some experience with C
20:46:42sideralalthough we've recently had an extremely cool plugin contribution by someone who claimed that it was his first C program :)
20:46:44padavoinelet me put it this way, the most complicated thing I've done in C is an IMPS assembler / emulator, can I be of any use at all?
20:47:12sideralpadavoine: I think you'd manage :)
20:47:43padavoinealright, I'll look into it then, thanks
20:48:41sideralIf you can program in C, the most difficult part might be finding your way around in the code base. Rockbox is pretty monolithic.
20:49:06sideralI found it very instructive to look at some of the patches that were contributed on Flyspray
20:49:21sideralthey have the right level of granularity for "one change"
20:49:26padavoineK. Is the API at all documented for plugins etc?
20:49:58sideralaside from the code (plugin.h), not really I think
20:50:11padavoinek
20:51:30sideralwhat area would you be interested in?
20:51:37padavoinecompiling the latest svn btw
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20:51:52padavoinei have no idea tbh, is most of the work bugfixing?
20:52:11AlexPbluebroth3r: Since LatexGuidelines says not to use \textbf{}, what is the desired way of making something bold? I want it to stand out more than \emph{}
20:53:16sideralAlexP: Why not add a sentence saying: "For example, you can place your MP3s in a folder named /MUSIC."
20:53:39sideralThere's no way anyone would read that as .rockbox :)
20:53:41AlexPsideral: yes, I could do that also, but I'd still like to make the NOT really obvious :)
20:54:19sideralI first read this as: I'd still like to make this NOT really obvious :)
20:54:28gevaertssideral: I think the reasoning against that is that people would see that as a specific recommendation and wonder what issues they'll get if they put their music in /audio
20:54:31padavoinesideral: I was actually interested in working on v2 USB support, but the PIO patch code is daunting heh
20:55:33sideralgevaerts: OK, how about: "For example, you can place your MP3s in a folder named /MUSIC, /audio, or /xxxfunnyhaha."
20:55:52*gevaerts nods
20:56:19gevaertsA bit of careful phrasing should indeed avoid that problem
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20:57:01sideralpadavoine: Yes, the USB drivers are daunting. I've spent many an hour looking at them myself, trying to find "the bug" :)
20:57:03AlexPyeah, I'm adding something
20:58:14sideralpadavoine: If you do get started at AMSv2 USB, please have a deep look at FS #11877 and tell me what I'm doing wrong :)
20:58:15fs-bluebothttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11877 Filesystem corruption after entering USB mode (bugs, new)
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21:00:27padavoinesideral, tbh I don't think I'm even close to being able to read code
21:00:52padavoineI have no idea how USB works, I surmise there's a bunch of serializing involved etc?
21:01:48sideralyeah :) the strange thing is that fixing a synchronization bug fixed USB on my ClipV2, but it's still broken in the same way on my Clip+ and my FuzeV2
21:02:36padavoinewell I'll give it a shot, I'll learn how USB works in the process
21:02:47padavoinebtw, how do you manage splitting files b/e SD and internal memory?
21:03:00sideralpamaury (who developed both AMSv2 USB drivers) currently theorizes that it's probably a hardware issue that the OF works around somehow
21:03:29sideral?? don't understand your question
21:04:12padavoineyour music library, i suppose you split it b/e the SD and the internal memor
21:04:13padavoine*memory
21:04:23padavoineie fill up internal memory put the rest on SD
21:06:03gevaertsThey're independent filesystems
21:06:11padavoinei mean as a user
21:06:30gevaertsoh
21:06:44padavoinejust curious, haven't found an elegant way of doing it myself
21:06:49padavoinesideral: kind of strange that a hardware issue would persist throughout mulitple players
21:06:56*gevaerts does that by using a hard disk player without SD slot :)
21:07:06padavoineheh
21:07:11gevaertspadavoine: they use the same SoC
21:07:36sideralI'm using the SD card for almost all my music
21:07:57padavoineyeah same here atm, just wondering what i'll do when i fill up
21:08:01AlexPSadly there aren't SD cards that are anywhere near big enough
21:08:04sideralthe internal memory just has some of my finest music that I always need with me :)
21:08:12padavoineinitting database with vanilla build atm
21:08:21padavoineAlexP, 32 not enough?
21:08:26sideralwhereas the SD card has the podcasts, which change all the time
21:08:26AlexPnowhere near
21:08:37padavoineaw no, it built on vanilla
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21:09:03padavoineare there any records of the database anywhere else than the database* files?
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21:09:20sideralno
21:09:21padavoinejust wanna check if it builds after a complete purge with the PIO patch
21:09:37padavoinek, i'll try then
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21:10:25sideralyou can enable metadata logging, but that won't help in this case (failing commit)
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21:11:43sideralpadavoine: Do you have the dircache enabled BTW?
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21:11:46padavoinebtw, any reason why it seems to scan in alphabetical file order but some files appear randomly?
21:11:57padavoineyes, it's enabled by default and i didn't disable it
21:12:08padavoineoh wow
21:12:10sideralthat's the order in which your system copied the files
21:12:14padavoineah, k
21:12:24padavoineok so the database built with just my internal dummy file
21:12:30padavoineadded the sd and now same as before
21:12:51sideralalright, please file a bug
21:12:55padavoineyep will do
21:13:02padavoineglad it's not the PIO, that would've been annoying
21:16:19sideralWe've recently had a change in the dircache that triggered a number of bugs in the database, so it's not totally unlikely you've hit one
21:16:31padavoinerecently as in post 3.8?
21:16:39sideralpost-3.9
21:17:04padavoineso if i get a 3.9 release build meanwhile it might fix it?
21:17:26sideralyeah, that's worth a try
21:17:50padavoinei'll do that before filing the bug then
21:17:54padavoineshould help isolate it
21:18:01sideralyeah, thanks
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21:23:50bluebroth3rAlexP: why not use \note then?
21:24:18AlexPAs it is mid sentence, and breaking it out would mean reorganising the section
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21:24:40AlexPI'd rather emph than that, if I can't have bold :)
21:24:45bluebroth3r"more emphasized than emphasized" is a bit ... strange :)
21:24:59AlexPitalic isn't as obvious as bold to me
21:25:08AlexPBut it isn't a big deal
21:27:12bluebroth3rwell, we could change emphadized text to use bold instalead of italic. But from a typographic point of view it's not really a ood idea since it interrupts the reading flow
21:27:31AlexPyeah, I don't want to change \emph{} in general
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21:28:00AlexPIt is just this one occasion where I would like it :)
21:28:52AlexPOut of interest, why no \textbf{} (and I assume {\bf xx})?
21:29:32bluebroth3rbecause it convolutes semantics with appearance
21:29:54AlexPA little more simple please :)
21:30:45gevaertsAlexP: "it's wrong!
21:30:52AlexPOK, in between :)
21:31:10AlexPI'm not sure what is meant by semantics here
21:32:01bluebroth3rwell, if I want to emphadize OlI want to mark it as emphasizef, not as bold :)
21:32:15bluebroth3rgtg now, bbl
21:32:27AlexPBut what if I just actually want something to be bold?
21:32:27padavoinebasically it's like HTML, you want to seperate organization of data and presentation of data
21:32:28AlexPOK
21:32:41AlexPHow is it changing organisation?
21:32:51padavoineit's not
21:32:55padavoineAnd I don't know TeX
21:33:03padavoinebut from what I understand, you're just using organisational tags
21:33:10padavoineand the renderer is basing its styles on the organisation
21:33:17AlexPI don't see the difference between making something bold and making it italic (other than the way the appearance changes)
21:33:33padavoinewell, \emph doesn't make it italic, it marks it as important
21:33:45padavoinethe stylesheet / renderer is what makes it italic
21:34:21AlexPyes, true
21:34:35AlexPSo what I actually want is two forms of \emph
21:34:40padavoinesomething like that yes
21:34:50padavoineit's the same reason font tags are deprecated in HTML and inline styles are frowned upon
21:34:55AlexPAs sometimes (normally) I want it italic, but occasionally I want something to be bold
21:35:40padavoinewell, if you were to use the same model as HTML / CSS you'd use textbf, imo
21:36:04padavoineor simply change emph to always be bold, if you consider that italic doesn't emphasize enough
21:36:17AlexPNo, normally italic is good
21:36:24AlexPI just want something in bold as a one off
21:37:56padavoinei think textbf would be fair, if it's a one off adding a seperate organisational element for it is just confusing
21:38:11padavoineis the 3.9 release at branches/v3_9?
21:40:07AlexPThere have been some commits to the branch since 3.9
21:40:11AlexPyou want the tag
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21:42:39padavoineah thank
21:42:43padavoinedamn i started compilling already
21:47:56sideralif it works with 3.9 release, it'd be interesting to know whether it fails with with branch v3_9 :)
21:48:04padavoineok uh
21:48:13padavoinei'm still running my fresh SVN release
21:48:15padavoinecompiling the 3.9
21:48:27padavoineanyway i deleted all the database files, tried to do an init from scratch with SD card
21:48:29padavoineit comitted
21:48:38padavoinebut i'm getting multiple entries
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21:48:52padavoine10 for each artist or sthing
21:48:59sideralinteresting! that's a bug I've been hunting for some time :)
21:49:04padavoine1 per song
21:49:15padavoineso it's a separate bug?
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21:49:24sideralperhaps related in some way
21:49:41sideralmake another backup copy of this DB please :)
21:49:46padavoinealright
21:50:04padavoineis it a bug in the db generation or in the presentation?
21:50:14sideraland attach an archive of it to FS #12129
21:50:15fs-bluebothttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12129 Duplicate database entries (bugs, unconfirmed)
21:50:23sideralI think it's a generation error.
21:50:38sideralsomeone else posted a DB in this task, and it contains actual duplicate data
21:51:00sideralOne theory is that a database_tmp file is being committed more than once for some reason
21:51:29sideralmaybe it's been partially committed, giving the failure you saw first, and then "succeeded" committing in another run
21:52:23padavoinedone
21:53:30sideraldidn't you say you observed the duplicate-entry issue without the PIO patch?
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21:55:40padavoineuh, i didn't specify in IRC
21:55:43padavoineit was with the PIO patch
21:55:54padavoineshould I try and repdoruce without?
21:55:57padavoine*reproduce
21:57:43sideralhmm, would be better, but I guess it would take a lot of fiddling to reproduce it
21:57:59padavoinebtw
21:58:02padavoineit scanned very very slowly when it happened
21:58:04sideralIf you could log the steps to reproduce it, that'd be cool though
21:58:04padavoinecompared to usually
21:58:17sideraldo you have DB autoupdate enabled BTW?
21:58:23padavoineyes
21:58:37padavoinek using 3.9 release, seems to be commiting
21:58:48padavoineusually stops at 2/9
21:58:51sideralthat seems to be a precondition for the dupe bug
21:59:17sideralOK, cool
21:59:22padavoinehey, prefect commit on 3.9 release
21:59:26padavoine*perfect
21:59:34padavoinewell at least that's something
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22:00:19sideraldo you have a large collection of files on the SD card?
22:00:39padavoine3.5k or so
22:03:18CIA-14New commit by funman (r30285): remove obsolete comment
22:03:26CIA-14New commit by funman (r30286): configure: don't use sed to generate the Makefile ...
22:03:32CIA-14New commit by funman (r30287): typo
22:05:25CIA-14r30285 build result: All green
22:06:31CIA-14r30287 build result: 1373 errors, 0 warnings (funman committed)
22:07:02CIA-14New commit by funman (r30288): configure: remove redundant ENC_CMD
22:08:19funmanwoops
22:08:46CIA-14r30288 build result: 1166 errors, 0 warnings (funman committed)
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22:28:51sideralpadavoine: Thanks for posting FS #12228. Which svn revision was this with?
22:28:52fs-bluebothttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12228 Database fails to commit on Fuze v2 fresh SVN build (bugs, unconfirmed)
22:29:16CIA-14New commit by funman (r30289): configure: avoid double escaping of $ (single quote + backslash)
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22:30:23CIA-14r30289 build result: 1265 errors, 0 warnings (funman committed)
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22:30:39sideralpadavoine: running r30283 vanilly now?
22:31:49balintxsome errors O.o
22:32:21padavoineuh, atm i'm running 3.9 pio
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22:32:36CIA-14New commit by funman (r30290): typo
22:33:08*funman should *really* test his changes
22:35:15kugelpno risk no fun
22:35:16kugelp:-)
22:35:19CIA-14r30290 build result: All green
22:35:22sideralpadavoine: I mean the revision with which you reproduced FS #12228
22:35:23fs-bluebothttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12228 Database fails to commit on Fuze v2 fresh SVN build (bugs, unconfirmed)
22:36:25padavoinei believe so
22:36:53padavoinenot 100%, i may have snved again and it was 30384 by then, possibly
22:37:16sideraldo you still have the build around? the rockbox-info.txt file will tell you
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22:38:04padavoineyep, i'll check
22:38:48padavoine04
22:39:59CIA-14New commit by funman (r30291): configure: don't use sed for autoconf.h
22:42:25CIA-14r30291 build result: All green
22:42:26funmangevaerts: we preprocess a lot of SOURCE files with gcc each time we call make and i'd like to cache the results
22:42:45funmanthe tricky part is having the dependancies alright so the cached copies are regenerated when needed
22:43:43sideralpadavoine: 04?
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22:44:20padavoiner03804
22:44:26gevaertsfunman: is that really worth it?
22:44:27padavoinewhere i got the duplication but that is
22:44:32gevaertsIt's your time of course :)
22:44:38funmanSOURCES file include config.h (through the command line), which includes autoconf.h and the target config files
22:44:54funmangevaerts: is it really worth writing an open source jukebox firmware? :)
22:45:08gevaerts:)
22:45:37B4gderremember all the fame and glory it brings!
22:46:40sideralpadavoine: you mean r30804? we're not there yet, funman just committed 20291 :)
22:47:01sideraldo you mean r30284?
22:47:15gevaertssideral: that's not entirely correct either. He committd 30291 :)
22:47:35sideralaaahrg!
22:47:51sideralI need to learn to copy&paste :)
22:48:23padavoineyeah 30284, my bad
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22:54:12funman(GNU?) Makefile handles wildcard dependancies so i can just depend on firmware/export/config/*
22:55:15kugelpfunman: You can depend on config.o, that's its only purpose
22:56:16funmanhmm nice
22:56:55funmanthough it should be removed from common/SOURCES
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22:58:29kugelpwhyl
22:58:36kugelp?*
22:59:12funmanbecause in my implementation the generated SOURCES would depend on SOURCES and config.o
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23:01:00kugelpI too wonder if what you plan is worth it :-)
23:02:05funmanjust want to hack a bit and i had this idea in my head for a long time
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23:21:29funmanhm i'd need to separate SOURCES generation and compilation in 2 different makefiles
23:21:41funmani give up for now :)
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23:38:56kugelUnhelpful: I wonder if you're willing to have a look over my buflib patches?
23:39:53Unhelpfuldid you fix the bugs?
23:40:08kugelwhat bugs?
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23:42:23Unhelpfulwhichever bugs there might be in the buflib?
23:42:35kugelhm no
23:42:50kugelnot sure if you noticed but my gsoc project was to port buflib to the core
23:43:03kugelin that I made many enhancements to it
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23:43:22UnhelpfulI knew, but haven't been following
23:43:48Unhelpfulsamsung and android keep me very busy
23:44:29kugelUnhelpful: see http://repo.or.cz/w/kugel-rb.git/blob/refs/heads/gsoc2-buflib-insertion3:/firmware/buflib.c and http://repo.or.cz/w/kugel-rb.git/blob/refs/heads/gsoc2-buflib-insertion3:/firmware/include/buflib.h
23:45:32UnhelpfulI'll try to, at some point. what is using buflib now?
23:46:47kugelin that branch everything that does buffer_alloc or similar in svn
23:47:35kugelUnhelpful: I mostly added the support for shrinking allocations, move and shrink callbacks, and preventing moving (temporarily)
23:48:47kugelit would be nice if the original implementor had a look over it :)
23:52:51Unhelpfulpreventing moving per-buffer? hm.
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23:55:27kugelyes
23:55:59kugelI'm aware it might cause (temporary) fragmentation, but it's necessary
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