| 00:00:01 | lebellium | My mp3 player is a Samsung R0, the RB port is in good progress thanks to an Italian developer. I actually ported the now playing screen of Samsung and improved it a bit (bitrate + album year ) |
| 00:02:17 | KiwiCam | Darko: Did the Clip just die, as in refuse to turn on again? If it's recognised as a drive on your PC, then you should just be able to format it to Fat and just drag the Firmware .bin file onto it. |
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| 00:03:12 | Darko | I tried that KiwiCam at first, I formatted it as FAT32 and dragged m30pa.bin and still black screen |
| 00:03:20 | Darko | should i disconnet USB and resolder battery? |
| 00:03:34 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 00:04:06 | Darko | maybe it needs FAT system to boot? |
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| 00:04:36 | KiwiCam | Have you got the correct version of the Firmware? There's an 01 & an 02 for the V2 |
| 00:04:55 | saratoga | Darko: you need to follow those instructions |
| 00:05:22 | saratoga | lebellium: i haven't heard much about that device lately, who is working on it? |
| 00:06:59 | Darko | well, the firmware IS right because before rockboxing procedure I updated it with Sandisk utility and it said 02.01.35 |
| 00:07:24 | Darko | thats the one I downloaded later from sandisk page for manual installation |
| 00:08:03 | Darko | i hope it is right, has same name in zip archive clip02.01.35.zip |
| 00:08:09 | lebellium | saratoga: Lorenzo is working on. RB runs on his and on my R0. The interface shows up, keys work, plugins work and there is a basic audio support (for the moment 100% hardware volume so much distorsion and hiss). You can follow the progress on ABI but soon he'll update the RB wiki page |
| 00:08:27 | Darko | and m30pa.bin when extracted |
| 00:08:32 | saratoga | is this an App port or firmware port? |
| 00:09:07 | lebellium | saratoga: the R0 has a Linux kernel so that's more like an app port :) |
| 00:09:16 | saratoga | ah ok |
| 00:09:33 | saratoga | i didn't realize that had progressed so far, yeah you guys should update the wiki |
| 00:09:49 | saratoga | might be a good idea to keep in contact with people here working on the android stuff so that its easier to merge your changes as well |
| 00:09:51 | gevaerts | Darko: I've never had to recover an AMS sansa, so I don't know the details, but I have a vague memory that you need more than the OF file you download from sandisk. IIRC you need a larger dump from a working player |
| 00:10:05 | lebellium | saratoga: http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum/showthread.php?p=580604#post580604 |
| 00:11:05 | KiwiCam | lebellium: That looks like a great device. Nice price too. I'd grab one if it was half the size and the same resolution. |
| 00:11:47 | lebellium | KiwiCam: I could give one, I have 3 R0 among my 30 DAPs hihi |
| 00:12:19 | Darko | @gevaerts you mean that (what you wrote) for this manual copying of .bin image from windows? |
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| 00:14:37 | gevaerts | Darko: I have no idea what you're asking |
| 00:14:39 | saratoga | lebellium: are you working on it too, or just that guy? |
| 00:15:25 | Darko | gevaerts, you said i need more than OF file |
| 00:15:38 | Darko | you mean, dd and .bin is not enough? |
| 00:16:16 | lebellium | saratoga: No, I don't really work on it, I don't have any Rockbox knowledges, he's the current main developer (but 2 other guys already worked on the port previously) and I'm the Community or Project Manager lol |
| 00:16:33 | saratoga | lebellium: hmm ok |
| 00:16:48 | saratoga | they should really post their source and let the app people here know what they're doing or else they may have quite some trouble merging their changes in |
| 00:17:39 | lebellium | Yeah but he was waiting for setting the R0 target before posting on the RB wiki |
| 00:17:40 | gevaerts | Darko: as I remember it, the .bin file you can download from sandisk doesn't have all data you need, so you need a .bin file dumped from a working player |
| 00:17:56 | Darko | a-ha! |
| 00:17:59 | lebellium | Before it was rather draft work |
| 00:18:02 | Darko | why dont you say so :) |
| 00:18:19 | Darko | do you know a place for that on rocbox forum maybe? |
| 00:18:48 | saratoga | lebellium: FWIW i think everyone who has ever done that has not managed to get their code into SVN . . . |
| 00:19:06 | saratoga | usually they show up with some big mess that no one else wants to touch |
| 00:19:26 | saratoga | it works much better if people provide feedback while the port is working so that bad decisions get caught early while they're easy to fix |
| 00:19:51 | Darko | gevaerts this is it http://daniel.haxx.se/sansa/amsfw.html |
| 00:20:21 | Darko | i found this page before, never asumed fot its purpose - now i do :) |
| 00:20:37 | lebellium | That was a big mess, now the target is set up, he cleaned the shit and we'll be able to post on the RB site soon and share with anyone :) |
| 00:20:47 | Darko | ok 1 step closer... |
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| 00:23:13 | saratoga | the problem is that your idea of clean will probably not match ours :) |
| 00:23:20 | saratoga | i've posted in that thread |
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| 00:23:58 | lebellium | saratoga: that's possible, actually I don't have any idea what's clean for you and for us, I'm not developing at all excep basic language on my TI at the time lol |
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| 00:31:49 | CIA-14 | New commit by pamaury (r30835): sbtools: be more verbose on real key and iv; add very advanced code to craft images |
| 00:33:01 | saratoga | pamaury: whats the install process for the fuze+ like at the moment? |
| 00:33:38 | CIA-14 | r30835 build result: All green |
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| 00:35:11 | pamaury | installing the bootloader is a bit tricky; there are two ways. In any case, one needs to decrypt a valid firmware, extract some part of it, insert rockbox code and rebuild the firmware image. Then either one uses the OF update code (just put firmware.sb at root) or build a not-dualbooting version of the bootloader that gives access to the OF partition and then send it in recovery mode and then dd'it using the firmware.sb file (basically) :) |
| 00:35:29 | pamaury | The tricky point here is building the firmware image so that it actually dual-boot |
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| 00:43:18 | pamaury | saratoga: Currently building the firmware images requires to use two tools: sbtoelf and elftosb, but I think I will write a condense version of both just to build the dual boot image, so it's easier to integrate it into rbutil |
| 00:43:49 | saratoga | pamaury: so it would work like ams where you patch a firmware and then copy it over? |
| 00:44:04 | pamaury | yes |
| 00:44:13 | pamaury | except that the format is much more complicated |
| 00:44:44 | saratoga | mkimxboot :) |
| 00:44:46 | pamaury | in any case you need the OF for the hardware init but you can easily build a non dual booting version of it |
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| 00:53:40 | funman | hey saratoga |
| 00:54:48 | saratoga | hey |
| 00:54:51 | saratoga | funman |
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| 00:58:35 | funman | you put the clipv2 image online ? |
| 00:59:54 | saratoga | funman: no i was asking if you did |
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| 01:00:08 | saratoga | i don't have a copy of it, but i believe you did at one point? |
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| 02:49:45 | funman | saratoga: perhaps it's still on a ocmputer in south of france |
| 02:49:53 | saratoga | lol |
| 02:50:35 | saratoga | i'll ask around and see if anyone else saved one |
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| 02:56:11 | funman | ok |
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| 05:45:18 | * | [Saint] wonders if the sansaAMSunbrick page should be harder to find... |
| 05:45:57 | [Saint] | reading the forum, I sincerely doubt that "crack open and reset" was the first logical step to take in that users case. |
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| 05:46:16 | [Saint] | especially given the apparent skill level of said user. |
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| 05:46:58 | [Saint] | .Its easy to say now, as, what's done is done and it can't be proven...but, I'd put money on it at the time that it just needed a hard resetr |
| 05:46:59 | JdGordon | holy crap! |
| 05:47:13 | [Saint] | ...yeah. |
| 05:48:02 | JdGordon | I tihnk a nice warning on the wiki page (if it isnt there already) wouldnt hurt |
| 05:49:25 | [Saint] | I think the common convention of "crashed==bricked" leads users there. We can't fix that. |
| 05:49:31 | [Saint] | Unfurtunate, though. |
| 05:49:39 | [Saint] | *unfortunate |
| 05:50:42 | [Saint] | The really funny thing is (reading now) the unbrick page fails to mention that to fully recover you need a dd of a perfectly working player's FW partition. |
| 05:51:21 | [Saint] | copying a patched OF there is enough to get RB to boot, but the OF expects more magic. |
| 05:51:38 | * | JdGordon adds a warning |
| 05:52:13 | [Saint] | ah "You can write the whole OF-Image onto that by using e.g.:" |
| 05:52:20 | [Saint] | it *does* assume you already have this image. |
| 05:52:31 | [Saint] | its just not exactly clear about how you need to get it ;) |
| 05:52:36 | JdGordon | it shouldnt be :) |
| 05:52:43 | JdGordon | forces people to come and ask!' |
| 05:53:01 | JdGordon | but yeah, i remember dding the of image from their website when i did mine |
| 05:53:14 | [Saint] | Yeah..."hey, do you mind cracking open your player and dumping <foo> for me" is a bit of a hard ask. |
| 05:53:52 | [Saint] | JdGordon: Was that enough to get the OF fully working? IIUC, it shouldn't have been. |
| 05:54:29 | saratoga | I'm assuming he had the clipv2 problem where it can't boot the patched firmware |
| 05:54:51 | [Saint] | saratoga: I think it just crashed. And he didn't know about hard reset. |
| 05:55:04 | saratoga | did he ever get it to actually boot? |
| 05:55:05 | alexbobp | hey [Saint] |
| 05:55:10 | alexbobp | are there any new interesting android interfaces I should try? |
| 05:55:44 | [Saint] | saratoga: Form the forums...I'm guessing not. Unless there's more I missed from here. |
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| 05:56:08 | saratoga | if it never booted after he patched the firmware he did the right thing, if it booted and then crashed he fucked up badly |
| 05:56:46 | [Saint] | alexbobp: Not presently, sorry. I need to get my current work on the tracker. I'll remember to give you a buzz when I do. |
| 05:56:51 | [Saint] | saratoga: "Hi! 30 minutes ago I had perfectly working Clip v2, now it's dead. Or it appears to be so. "Crashed" or "Bricked", what's the differece? Rockbox configured and installed succesfully, but now it won't boot. Battery is/was at 100% charge." |
| 05:57:02 | alexbobp | [Saint]: alright. |
| 05:57:02 | [Saint] | So yeah..."messed" up badly. |
| 05:57:15 | saratoga | i don't think its clear from that what he did |
| 05:57:26 | JdGordon | [Saint]: it was so long ago I dont remember, but I did get a working clip+ again after doing it |
| 05:57:31 | [Saint] | Well, it mentions it installed correctly. |
| 05:58:05 | saratoga | i think hes managed to phrase that description in such a way that it describes nothing |
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| 05:59:38 | [Saint] | ...it just scares me that we get first posts like that in the forums. I *really * scares me. I mean at least there's no "and its your fault!" though. |
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| 06:00:36 | saratoga | i just gave him the benefit of the doubt since he managed to open his player, but after the rest of the thread i'm not sure it was warrented |
| 06:00:46 | JdGordon | I wonder if thats because anyone smart enough to find and follow those steps knows its unlikely we did anything on purpose |
| 06:01:14 | JdGordon | anyone outright dumb will complain but be happy with "hard reset your player" type recovery steps |
| 06:01:38 | sillytones | [Saint]: i have a bricked clip+ −− are you saying I don't need to crack it open? I saw that page and then gave up |
| 06:02:04 | [Saint] | sillytones: It probably wasn't the first step, no. |
| 06:02:04 | JdGordon | sillytones: are you *sure* it is bricked... that you cant get it to any recovery mode? |
| 06:02:08 | [Saint] | But, what's done is done. |
| 06:02:21 | [Saint] | JdGordon: It sure is now ;) |
| 06:02:30 | sillytones | I just can't get it to turn on. |
| 06:02:47 | [Saint] | the FW partition is now FAT32, she's not turning on... |
| 06:02:56 | sillytones | plugged in to usb or not. last thing I saw was a frozen screen that I hard powered down |
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| 06:03:40 | saratoga | i don't think it should be possible to get a clip+ into a state where you need those directions without screwing up a firmware patch |
| 06:03:49 | JdGordon | sillytones: you want to talk to funman (who isnt on irc much anymore) |
| 06:03:53 | saratoga | if it stops working and you can't get it to power on its probably just broken |
| 06:04:10 | JdGordon | also that ^ |
| 06:04:25 | [Saint] | What you're going to need to do (assuming its not just broken), is delete the partition from the FW partition you uncovered. And place a ROckkbox patched firmware file in it and reboot. |
| 06:04:27 | JdGordon | hold the power button/switch for a good 30s and plug in usb |
| 06:04:50 | [Saint] | JdGordon: That *would* work, assuming the FW partition was intact. that's past, now. |
| 06:05:08 | saratoga | assuming you've let it sit for a couple days, plugging it into USB should be enough to reboot it |
| 06:05:11 | [Saint] | s/*would/*should*/ |
| 06:05:12 | sillytones | ok i'll try it |
| 06:05:23 | JdGordon | [Saint]: sillytones is not the person in the thread |
| 06:05:37 | [Saint] | Oh...wow. Fail. |
| 06:06:02 | [Saint] | That was, a weird coincidence. |
| 06:06:18 | sillytones | I'd also be willing to mail it to someone in rockbox if there's anybody who'd want a possibly bricked or broken Clip+ to mess around with |
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| 06:06:45 | saratoga | did you try plugging it into USB after it sat around for more then a few days? |
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| 06:06:56 | [Saint] | No, no...sorry. I thought you were someone in our forums having a similar problem. |
| 06:07:07 | [Saint] | It should be sufficient to let the batter drain. |
| 06:07:12 | [Saint] | *battery |
| 06:07:38 | sillytones | [Saint]: yeah it was talking about that similar problem that attracted my interest :) |
| 06:08:02 | sillytones | saratoga: i'm not sure. it's been sitting in my drawer for a few weeks now though |
| 06:08:11 | saratoga | plug it in and see if it comes on |
| 06:08:21 | sillytones | so my plan is to hold down the power button for a good 30s and then plug it in |
| 06:09:22 | saratoga | no just plug it in |
| 06:09:24 | saratoga | nothing more |
| 06:09:31 | sillytones | alright here goes |
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| 06:10:03 | sillytones | well windows says "installing device software−−> ready to use |
| 06:10:19 | sillytones | and that I need to format the drive |
| 06:10:24 | sillytones | but the screen doesn't come on |
| 06:10:26 | saratoga | did the player boot up? |
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| 06:10:46 | sillytones | no, the screen did not change at all |
| 06:10:47 | saratoga | thats probably just a bad memory chip |
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| 06:11:21 | saratoga | you could try flashing a new firmware image to it, but my guess is that the nand isn't working anyway so it wouldn't work |
| 06:11:47 | sillytones | should I format it |
| 06:12:02 | sillytones | and can I use rockbox utility to try a firmware flash |
| 06:12:31 | saratoga | how big is the disk that mounts? |
| 06:13:25 | sillytones | explorer thinks it is 0 bytes |
| 06:13:58 | sillytones | but it also wants to format it, so it might just not be able to tell how big it is |
| 06:14:33 | JdGordon | you at least arent at the point you need to to the full unbrick |
| 06:14:43 | saratoga | the disk manager can tell you how big unformatted disks are |
| 06:16:06 | [Saint] | right click on My Computer and hit Manage |
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| 06:16:25 | sillytones | thanks [Saint] |
| 06:16:55 | sillytones | 31 MB |
| 06:17:15 | sillytones | that's a far cry from 2 GB |
| 06:17:22 | JdGordon | thats recovery mode |
| 06:17:34 | [Saint] | ...how the? weird. |
| 06:18:54 | saratoga | huh, never heard of someone getting a disk that size |
| 06:19:05 | sillytones | JdGordon: is that a good thing or a bad thing |
| 06:19:16 | [Saint] | its supposed to be ~900MB for recovery mode iirc. |
| 06:19:32 | JdGordon | I *thought* that was a good thing, but sounds like im misremembering, listen to saratoga i tihnk :) |
| 06:20:02 | [Saint] | I have seen people manage to uncover a partition of this size before. |
| 06:20:16 | [Saint] | I don't think we have any idea why, or what it is. |
| 06:21:06 | sillytones | I can reboot into ubuntu if that would help |
| 06:21:07 | [Saint] | Sometimes I've seen people go through the unbrick steps and think they've hit recovery mode but its this 30oddMB partition. |
| 06:21:53 | [Saint] | from memory, and the unbrock page seems to document, it should be ~980MB |
| 06:21:59 | [Saint] | *unbrick |
| 06:22:32 | sillytones | At first I thought the memory chip went bad like saratoga thought, and all it had working was 31 MB |
| 06:24:21 | [Saint] | I have seen this before, I'm just nowhere near educated about the target to say what this means. |
| 06:25:15 | sillytones | what do you think I should do from here |
| 06:25:28 | sillytones | who is funman and how can I contact him? |
| 06:26:47 | [Saint] | funman is/was the resident SansaAMS expert. He floats in and out these days, Rockbox isn't so much a priority for him any longer. |
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| 06:38:09 | freddyb | JdGordon: At this point I favor wrong and working vs. right and broken. You outrank me by a long shot and you can get r30826 reverted if you want but I don't think you should. |
| 06:38:36 | JdGordon | freddyb: hey, woah now :) |
| 06:38:54 | JdGordon | I just want to make sure the correct code gets in... |
| 06:39:10 | JdGordon | I dont think the font_get_ui() call it so bad, but it is in the wrong place |
| 06:39:56 | freddyb | Ok, what do you propose? |
| 06:40:59 | JdGordon | font.c should only deal with id's and the magic sysfont. any FONT_UI/FONT_SYSFIXED magic ideally would be handled by the screen_access api |
| 06:41:05 | [Saint] | freddyb: I think there would be seven different types of uproar from..."a few select people" if Jd tried to suggest reverting anything, right wroung or no. |
| 06:41:45 | JdGordon | [Saint]: see the mailiong list how a revert request should happen.... |
| 06:42:02 | JdGordon | freddyb: see apps/screen_access.c screeb_helper_setfont() |
| 06:42:28 | JdGordon | I'd like an equivilant for getfont() which is exactly what you've done with font_get_ui() |
| 06:42:34 | freddyb | [Saint]: Please don't stir the pot right now... |
| 06:44:37 | JdGordon | freddyb: that screen_helper_Setfont() isnt quite a good example as that was dont to hook between plugins and font api, but thats where the ui font handling should be imo |
| 06:45:13 | JdGordon | also, font.c should get a font_get_height(int id) function which would remove a good deal of issues elsewhere L( |
| 06:45:51 | freddyb | JdGordon: I thought about sticking in font_get_height() myself. |
| 06:46:18 | JdGordon | that really is a no brainer when you see what calls font_get() :) |
| 06:48:02 | freddyb | JdGordon: I have no objection to moving everything to use global_status.xxx or userland_get_user_font() except that it hasn't been done yet and a plugin that asks for FONT_UI and gets a theme font with only 12 glyphs for a timer display is going to saw through the hard drive. |
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| 06:48:35 | freddyb | (Each glyph miss can be/ is likely to be three disk seeks.) |
| 06:49:40 | JdGordon | global_status.font_id[screen] is set from the global_setting.font filename so that wont happen |
| 06:49:44 | JdGordon | unless that changes also |
| 06:50:11 | freddyb | No. I mean if a plugin or whatever is not updated and makes the get_font(FONT_UI) call. |
| 06:50:29 | JdGordon | remove get_font() from the plugin api |
| 06:50:44 | JdGordon | or hook a wrapper in |
| 06:50:47 | JdGordon | which i tinhk i did |
| 06:51:38 | JdGordon | ah, no, i didnt get to doing that |
| 06:52:07 | freddyb | It really wasn't clear to me that FONT_UI was deprecated... |
| 06:53:04 | JdGordon | yeah, well I was hoping to finish the work myself... |
| 06:53:28 | JdGordon | but that is irrelevant anyway |
| 06:53:47 | JdGordon | I don't remember any plugins which call font_get() for any reason other than getting the font height |
| 06:55:09 | JdGordon | rockpaint does some weird/nice stuff, but otherwise all other calls can be worked around |
| 06:56:20 | freddyb | I really didn't look but if they want the height, we should give them the right number. |
| 06:57:03 | JdGordon | lrcplayer uses the font* to call font_get_width() which is fine, but that plugin should load its own copy of the user font really |
| 06:57:10 | JdGordon | or a font it wants |
| 06:57:42 | JdGordon | rb->font_load(<filename of the ui font>) will be a noop anyway if it is already loaded |
| 06:59:32 | freddyb | I'd prefer to narrow this discussion to just getting the right font index to the callers. The metrics have already been worked out, right? |
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| 07:00:01 | JdGordon | ? |
| 07:00:34 | freddyb | Not every plugin wants to have it's own font. Most of them just want what used to be FONT_UI, right? |
| 07:00:44 | JdGordon | correct |
| 07:01:49 | freddyb | So, if we can agree on some user space (app space?) way of getting what used to be FONT_UI we're set, right? Does global_settings.xxx[] satisfy that? |
| 07:02:05 | JdGordon | yes |
| 07:02:51 | JdGordon | if font_set/get_ui() is moved to apps and hooked into the screen_access and plugin api's that would be great |
| 07:03:04 | JdGordon | then it is transparent to plugins |
| 07:03:42 | freddyb | screen_access_set_defaults or something? |
| 07:04:12 | JdGordon | if i wasnt at work I'd do the patch quicky for you now |
| 07:05:09 | freddyb | I'm in no hurry, if you want to post it on FS that would suit me. |
| 07:05:24 | JdGordon | I'll see about doing it tonight, depends how late i get home |
| 07:05:51 | JdGordon | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12337?getfile=24204 is wrong which is why i brought it up |
| 07:05:58 | JdGordon | - skin_viewport->vp.font = global_status.font_id[display->screen_type]; |
| 07:05:59 | JdGordon | + skin_viewport->vp.font = font_get_ui(); |
| 07:06:22 | JdGordon | FONT_UI depends on the screen, so that change will get the wrong one |
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| 07:09:33 | Buschel | TheSeven: if you have some spare time it would be great if you could check FS #12310 |
| 07:09:33 | fs-bluebot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12310 Crash when inserting USB while playback (since r30097) (bugs, new) |
| 07:10:55 | Buschel | seems like since a change from jhMikeS (r30097) the interrupt or DMA handling for USB and PCM interfere |
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| 07:12:52 | sillytones | saratoga: [Saint]: can anything worse happen to my clip + if I try to use rockbox utility on it? |
| 07:14:09 | [Saint] | I would expect it to fail personally. I have my doubts it could make anything worse, but, wait for saratoga to respond. |
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| 08:58:23 | TheSeven | Buschel: ACK (put on my todo list :P) |
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| 10:18:01 | Darko | hello |
| 10:18:16 | Darko | ehat Linux distro to use for Sansa Clip recovery? |
| 10:18:21 | Darko | what |
| 10:18:44 | [Saint] | any. Its not even necessary to use Linux. |
| 10:18:59 | [Saint] | the equivalent tools on WIndows will work just fine. |
| 10:19:06 | Darko | well it is not listend on Knoppix DVD release |
| 10:19:19 | [Saint] | "it" == ? |
| 10:19:19 | Darko | what are equivalent tools on Win? |
| 10:19:29 | Darko | dd tools |
| 10:19:35 | Darko | I was last evening here |
| 10:19:40 | Darko | thats what I was told |
| 10:19:59 | [Saint] | If every standard linux tool was listed...it would be a LONG list ;) |
| 10:20:05 | Darko | ok |
| 10:20:05 | [Saint] | and Linux distro will have dd |
| 10:20:10 | [Saint] | *any |
| 10:20:33 | Darko | do you know Windows equivalent? |
| 10:20:38 | Darko | dd for Win i tried |
| 10:20:44 | Darko | but nothing happend |
| 10:21:18 | Darko | this is a command from Linux |
| 10:21:20 | Darko | dd if=orig_image.bin of=/dev/sde |
| 10:21:26 | Darko | i understand the second part |
| 10:21:42 | Darko | can you help if my .bin image of OF is on my C: drive |
| 10:21:51 | [Saint] | Ah! you're the guy who panicked and decided to open their player and attempt to "unbrick it", yes? |
| 10:21:59 | [Saint] | from the forums? |
| 10:21:59 | Darko | what would be correct sintax |
| 10:22:07 | Darko | yes i am :) |
| 10:22:08 | Darko | same nick |
| 10:22:15 | Darko | my name really |
| 10:23:30 | [Saint] | dd if=whatever_your_binary_image_is_called.bin of=/path/to/device |
| 10:23:59 | Darko | but how it will know my image is on root of C drive? |
| 10:24:27 | [Saint] | easy, you go to the location of it from the commandline ;) |
| 10:25:01 | Darko | ok, but how to do that |
| 10:25:17 | Darko | how to run command line in Linux? (what Linux also?) |
| 10:25:24 | Darko | root |
| 10:25:53 | Darko | you understand what troubles me right? |
| 10:26:05 | [Saint] | Look...what OS are you running RIGHT NOW? |
| 10:26:11 | Darko | Windows XP Sp3 |
| 10:26:34 | [Saint] | dd for win should be fine (assuming its setup correctly) |
| 10:26:49 | Darko | i said up there i tried dd win |
| 10:26:54 | Darko | nothing happend |
| 10:27:09 | Darko | sintax was something like this |
| 10:27:37 | [Saint] | My assumption would be user error, but, ok. Lets try a Linux distro. |
| 10:27:49 | [Saint] | Boot a liveCD of your choice, and come back. |
| 10:28:20 | Darko | ok i just need to download it and that will take a while |
| 10:28:25 | Darko | thanks Saint :) |
| 10:28:33 | Darko | Ubuntu is ok? |
| 10:28:40 | Zagor | isn't the question simply "what is the raw device syntax in windows"? |
| 10:28:40 | [Saint] | Yes, Ubuntu is fine. |
| 10:30:07 | Darko | Zagor, are you trying to say if my OF image is on C: and broken Sansa (unformatted) on G: what would be the syntax in dd for Win? |
| 10:31:10 | Darko | I found WinDD here http://sourceforge.net/projects/windd/ |
| 10:31:16 | Darko | what do you think of it? |
| 10:31:44 | Darko | its for people with less IQ like me :) (around 140) |
| 10:33:01 | Zagor | I know how dd works, but I don't know how dd works in windows, since the device syntax is completely different. |
| 10:34:03 | Zagor | I assume "dd if=file.bin of=g:" is not working? |
| 10:34:36 | [Saint] | (where g: == "correct drive letter) |
| 10:35:45 | Darko | Zagor I havent tried in Linux yet, Ubuntu is downloading right now, but i won't be at home till later this day |
| 10:36:07 | Darko | I also found this pages http://www.chrysocome.net/dd and http://www.chrysocome.net/rawwrite |
| 10:36:25 | Darko | in dd, do i have to define block size? |
| 10:36:32 | Zagor | this was for windows. only windows uses the colon syntax |
| 10:36:58 | ukleinek | because only windows uses (user visible) drives |
| 10:36:59 | Darko | sorry |
| 10:37:20 | kugel | the first site suggest you can get the device names with the −−list option |
| 10:37:40 | Darko | @ukleinek user visible drives −− but it is not formatted - how it will be seen then? |
| 10:39:23 | Darko | block size - anyone? |
| 10:39:36 | Zagor | no you don't have to specify block size |
| 10:40:02 | Darko | ok |
| 10:40:17 | Darko | well thank you everyone |
| 10:40:33 | Darko | will wait to download Ubuntu and will try later this evening |
| 10:40:40 | Darko | See you |
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| 11:06:29 | Zagor | judging from the commits over the weekend, it doesn't look like we're ready to branch off 3.10 today? |
| 11:07:40 | JdGordon | probably not, but still, is there a list of required fixed issues before we just drop the release all together? |
| 11:08:13 | JdGordon | *if* voice is actually broken I'd say thats a candidate to forget about it |
| 11:08:45 | Zagor | I'd say the pink ones on our bug list sounds like stuff we can't release |
| 11:09:14 | Zagor | and it appears amiconn still hasn't added his lockup bug |
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| 12:36:09 | Ryuku | ohai |
| 12:36:38 | Ryuku | http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaFuzePlusPort?rev=13 |
| 12:36:51 | Ryuku | how long will it take some has an idea ? |
| 12:40:19 | [Saint] | "as long as it takes, and no sooner" is the general timeframe. |
| 12:40:43 | [Saint] | no one can tell if there's be some blocker that might make it *never* be released, until it is. |
| 12:46:47 | Ryuku | i see :( thx |
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| 13:00:26 | dfkt | is there an issue with album art display in current raaa builds? no cover.jpg or embedded art will show up for me |
| 13:01:12 | dfkt | using the latest build from rasher's site |
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| 13:05:59 | amiconn | Zagor: I know :\ I want to test on other targets too, meanwhile I found a few more things about this bug |
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| 13:06:34 | amiconn | It seems that all voice from voice file is broken on H1x0, i.e. only talk clips work |
| 13:07:18 | Zagor | it would be helpful if you put the bug in flyspray, so everyone knows about it |
| 13:07:34 | amiconn | If some operation would trigger voice output, it either is silently ignored, or it freezes. I even can't start playback within folders with no .talk clip - it freezes immediately |
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| 13:08:03 | amiconn | (probably because it tries to fall back to spelling, which uses the voice file) |
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| 13:35:38 | JdGordon | Zagor: another option is wait another week (or whatever) and if people still dont think its up to scratch we release from pre-buflib svn |
| 13:38:33 | Zagor | yes, we have several options. for now I think we should aim at getting 3.10 out, if somewhat late. |
| 13:38:47 | Zagor | I mean trunk |
| 13:39:04 | JdGordon | late drags out to never though |
| 13:39:34 | Zagor | yep, it's a risk |
| 13:39:58 | Zagor | however we've seen pre-buflib also has a number of old bugs |
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| 14:29:27 | dfkt | [Saint], thanks for your help yesterday. i went a bit crazy on the progress bar / peak meter combination :) - http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,29103.0.html |
| 14:32:10 | [Saint] | dfkt: Happy to help. |
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| 15:36:04 | Mode | "#rockbox -o Torne" by Torne (~torne@rockbox/developer/Torne) |
| 15:36:48 | [Saint] | We just got freestyle trolled. 0_o |
| 15:37:07 | [Saint] | Word. |
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| 16:17:43 | dfkt | suddenly ../tools/configure complains about my android sdk magically not being in the path.. well, it is and always was in .bash.rc. does anyone have an idea what could went wrong from one day to the other? |
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| 16:26:56 | kugel | dfkt: don't like the playlist viewer? |
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| 16:27:22 | kugel | dfkt: you need ANDROID_SDK_PATH, not PATH |
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| 16:28:30 | dfkt | kugel, i set it up (a long time ago) according to the wiki or docs page, but i can't find it again... could you please tell me the correct line? |
| 16:28:38 | dfkt | also, what's with the playlist viewer? :) |
| 16:29:18 | kugel | dfkt: execute 'env' to see if it's set (or set incorrectly) |
| 16:29:42 | kugel | 'export ANDROID_SDK_PATH=/path/to/sdk' would be correct |
| 16:30:28 | [Saint] | (same for NDK, with SDK>NDK also) |
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| 16:34:50 | kugel | dfkt: no shortcut implemented in your theme :) |
| 16:35:22 | dfkt|x | ah... well, i only use file/folder browsing, and i don't even shuffle ;) |
| 16:36:18 | dfkt|x | ok, one step further: [WARNING] The compiler you must use (arm-linux-androideabi-gcc) is not in your path! |
| 16:36:42 | dfkt|x | no idea how this all disappeared... gah |
| 16:38:11 | [Saint] | Did you update your SDK? It sounds like a: soemthing went wrong, or b: directories changed. |
| 16:38:39 | dfkt|x | no changes... i just updated vmware, which shouldn't affect the guest os, i assume |
| 16:41:23 | [Saint] | It can't find the NDK, if its spitting that error. |
| 16:41:54 | [Saint] | (re-)export the PATH to the NDK |
| 16:42:36 | [Saint] | (assuming the NDK is indeed present) |
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| 16:44:32 | dfkt | both sdk and ndk are present |
| 16:45:25 | [Saint] | well, the toolchain is located in the NDK, so, apparently the OS can't "see" it. |
| 16:46:35 | dfkt | maybe i need to export the /toolchains folder explicitely? |
| 16:48:21 | [Saint] | Nope. |
| 16:48:57 | [Saint] | Just the path to the SDK and NDK, as "ANDROID_*_PATH" |
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| 16:49:35 | [Saint] | (where * is either SDK or NDK, if that wasn't clear) |
| 16:50:34 | dfkt | woohoo, working again! thank you |
| 16:51:16 | dfkt | i exported it via commandline - not sure if that sticks. i can just write the same two export lines in .bashrc? |
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| 16:52:47 | mc2739 | dfkt: via commandline won't stick - add those two lines to .bashrc |
| 16:53:45 | dfkt | thanks |
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| 17:06:54 | dfkt | kugel, i could change the long press on tags from menu to playlist, since i guess all android devices have a menu soft-button anyways |
| 17:11:11 | dfkt | wait - playlist is in context menu :) |
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| 17:50:24 | dfkt | does anyone have the "list spacing" patch mentioned here? - http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,27394.0.html |
| 17:51:14 | pixelma | SVN |
| 17:51:29 | pixelma | I believe |
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| 17:51:54 | dfkt | hmm, just did a new build, and the list items in android have huge gaps between |
| 17:52:22 | kugelp | its in svn now, yes |
| 17:53:22 | dfkt | ah, it's not under theme settings, but in display :p |
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| 20:22:09 | Darko | hello |
| 20:22:26 | Darko | people are we ready to rockbox my Sansa Clip? |
| 20:22:31 | Darko | :) |
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| 20:23:03 | Darko | returned home from university.... Ubuntu is burned on CD and now show begins |
| 20:23:20 | Darko | hopes are low though :) |
| 20:23:31 | [Saint] | Possibly ;) Step one is, you'll want a Rockbox patched OF file. |
| 20:23:40 | Darko | hi Saint |
| 20:23:50 | Darko | my guide to heaven :) |
| 20:24:03 | * | [Saint] makes no promises :) |
| 20:24:03 | Darko | I will try with original firmware first |
| 20:24:14 | Darko | simple things are priority atm |
| 20:24:39 | Darko | ah if I only read forums more carefully before I rushed |
| 20:24:41 | [Saint] | There's a very high likelyhood (since you formatted the FW partition) the OF won't boot...but you can try. |
| 20:24:55 | Darko | I deleted partition with Gpart |
| 20:25:06 | [Saint] | Same effect. ;) |
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| 20:25:28 | Darko | its now clean, even Win does not see it as mounted wthatsoever |
| 20:25:41 | Darko | you mean it doesnt matter |
| 20:26:46 | [Saint] | What I meant was "you killed the OF partition, so, replacing solely the OF may not have all the sufficient files required for the OF to function" |
| 20:27:06 | [Saint] | This has been seen on Fuzes before. |
| 20:27:24 | [Saint] | *How* the FW partition was killed is irrelevant. |
| 20:28:07 | [Saint] | But, we can try. |
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| 20:29:31 | [Saint] | Let me know once you a: have a terminal open in Ubuntu, and b: have identified the correct mountpoint of the device. |
| 20:29:40 | Darko_ | ok |
| 20:29:56 | [Saint] | (hint: using dd is *dangerous*, you need to know the mountpoint of the device) |
| 20:30:07 | [Saint] | lsusb can help here. |
| 20:30:15 | Darko_ | don't worry |
| 20:30:26 | Darko_ | i am using old machine and I have backup ghost for it |
| 20:30:31 | Darko_ | nothing can be screwed |
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| 20:30:51 | Darko_ | here we go Ubuntu is booting up, fingers crossed |
| 20:33:25 | Darko_ | cool desktop background :) |
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| 20:37:10 | [Saint] | Applications → Accessories → Terminal or ALT+F2 |
| 20:37:18 | [Saint] | then do "lsusb" |
| 20:37:39 | [Saint] | you should be able to identify the mountpoint from the lsusb output |
| 20:38:19 | Darko_ | ok its still installing... will notify you |
| 20:38:43 | [Saint] | Ah...you tricked me saying "desktop" ;) |
| 20:39:27 | Darko_ | well it was that magenta thing |
| 20:39:39 | Darko_ | then vanished and now appeared again |
| 20:40:16 | Darko_ | its just mouse and background and cd is still spinning |
| 20:40:47 | Darko_ | Microsoft really spoiled us :) |
| 20:41:40 | [Saint] | Running a distro from a LiveCD really can't be compared to "real" Linux in any way. |
| 20:42:04 | [Saint] | it depends on the speed of your optical drive, and loopback filesystems are really bad for disk IO speeds. |
| 20:42:27 | Darko_ | I know just kidding before "operation", this PC has little memory now I remembered |
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| 20:47:04 | sillytones | if that doesn't work youcan try using puppy linux from usb - it's fast |
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| 20:49:41 | [Saint] | sillytones: assuming the host machine supports boot from USB |
| 20:49:48 | [Saint] | (many older machines don't) |
| 20:57:06 | sillytones | [Saint]: true, but you can use puppy from cd and it's still pretty fast |
| 20:57:32 | sillytones | or you can use PLoP boot manager to boot from cd first, and then transfer to usb |
| 20:58:00 | * | [Saint] slaps himself for sliding conversation offtopic |
| 20:59:06 | Darko_ | finally booted |
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| 21:00:32 | sillytones | [Saint]: not much else to do waiting :P |
| 21:01:32 | [Saint] | This is an "on-topic" channel, though. You'll remember this fromt he guidelines you read when you joined, right? ;) |
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| 21:03:18 | Darko_ | sorry people, collegue called from university... had a long talk |
| 21:03:32 | Darko_ | this machine has only 256MB RAM, its a bit slow |
| 21:03:44 | Darko_ | hope it wont destroy anything |
| 21:04:04 | Darko_ | this machine doesnt support usb boot as far as i know |
| 21:04:29 | sillytones | [Saint]: i think it was on topic as it pertains to Darko_'s situation |
| 21:04:35 | Darko_ | now i see ubuntu desktop |
| 21:05:19 | Darko_ | is here a File Manager somewhere? |
| 21:05:34 | Darko_ | I forgot to copy OF to this computer... oops :) |
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| 21:08:28 | Darko_ | people i decided to boot Ubuntu on new computer and switch internet connection to the old one |
| 21:08:34 | Darko_ | this is way to slow |
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| 21:17:27 | Darko | its me again |
| 21:17:38 | Darko | officially running Ubuntu and Firefox |
| 21:17:41 | Darko | :) |
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| 21:21:23 | Darko | Saint is @ work |
| 21:21:38 | Darko | does anyone knows how to start Terminal in latest Ubuntu? |
| 21:21:55 | Darko | Applications > then something, but I dont se Applications anywhere |
| 21:22:10 | Darko | only Ubuntu Software Center |
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| 21:23:11 | sillytones | Darko: what version of ubuntu |
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| 21:23:51 | sillytones | Darko: you probably hit the ubuntu dash button, then type terminal in the seach box |
| 21:24:01 | Darko | Ubuntu 11.10 32bit |
| 21:24:44 | Urne | Press the Windows Key button and type Terminal. I can not remember the keyboard shortcut right now unfortunately |
| 21:24:48 | Darko | thanks! it worked |
| 21:24:53 | Darko | Terminal up & running |
| 21:24:58 | sillytones | I think the shortcut is control-t |
| 21:24:59 | robin0800 | Darko, ctrl+alt+t |
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| 21:25:28 | Darko | Dashboard > search did the trick! |
| 21:25:42 | Darko | now i will wait for Saint |
| 21:26:02 | Darko | he said to wait for him and he will guide me how to restore Sansa Clip v2 |
| 21:26:05 | Darko | if possible at all |
| 21:26:39 | Darko | he mentioned to check something, i forgot now what... |
| 21:26:43 | Darko | usb command |
| 21:28:42 | [Saint] | lsusb |
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| 21:31:02 | Darko | yes thanks Saint! |
| 21:31:54 | [Saint] | This assumes the device is connected, and in recovery mode already. |
| 21:32:01 | Darko | Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 003 Device 002: ID 09da:000a A4 Tech Co., Ltd Port Mouse Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0781:6200 SanDisk Corp. |
| 21:32:46 | Darko | I reckon its allright :gree: |
| 21:33:04 | Darko | :green: |
| 21:33:10 | [Saint] | Hum...lsusb doesn't give the mountpoint...well, I fail. |
| 21:33:17 | sillytones | type 'mount' |
| 21:33:22 | sillytones | thatwill give mountpoints |
| 21:33:36 | sillytones | without quotes |
| 21:33:55 | Darko | so many text here |
| 21:34:01 | Darko | to paste all? |
| 21:34:12 | [Saint] | Use pastebin. |
| 21:34:18 | sillytones | look for one like /dev/sdb1 |
| 21:34:29 | sillytones | or with mounpoints in /media/ |
| 21:34:36 | bertrik | When I had to unbrick my clip+, there was a disk the size of (nearly?) exactly the size of the firmware image, so about 30 MB. I still wonder why. |
| 21:34:45 | sillytones | bertrik: !!! |
| 21:34:48 | sillytones | that's where I am now |
| 21:34:55 | sillytones | how did you recover from there |
| 21:35:10 | [Saint] | bertrik: yes, I questioned that earlier. |
| 21:35:12 | bertrik | I dd'ed the firmware image to the USB disk |
| 21:35:21 | bertrik | the original firmware |
| 21:35:26 | sillytones | bertrik: to the 30mb partition? |
| 21:35:26 | [Saint] | sillytones: has the same "problem" |
| 21:36:35 | bertrik | sillytones, make sure you know exactly which disk is the sansa, unmount any filesystem that is on it, then dd the original firmware to it |
| 21:36:54 | [Saint] | The recovery partition should be almost 980MB afaik, no idea what this 30MB partition is. |
| 21:37:25 | bertrik | [Saint], how do you know? |
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| 21:37:41 | bertrik | I dd'ed to the 30MB one and that fixed it eventually |
| 21:38:29 | [Saint] | bertrik: the early ams days and funman discovering it. |
| 21:38:29 | Darko | here is text, nothing alike im afraid |
| 21:38:35 | sillytones | i don't want to risk dd in windows, so i'll reboot to kubuntu in a few minutes |
| 21:38:47 | bertrik | Also what I did, was to just bridge the 'unbrick' pin for a short time, only during USB plug-in |
| 21:39:02 | bertrik | [Saint], have you ever unbricked an AMS sansa yourself? |
| 21:39:11 | sillytones | ugh, i don't want to open my clip+ |
| 21:39:14 | [Saint] | bertrik: yes. |
| 21:39:30 | [Saint] | Fuze v1 and v2 |
| 21:39:38 | Darko | how to use pastebin command on IRC? |
| 21:39:57 | sillytones | Darko: give us the pastebin url |
| 21:39:57 | [Saint] | Darko: Google it. Its not an orchestra command. |
| 21:40:06 | [Saint] | *irc command |
| 21:40:17 | bertrik | the problem seems to be that no-one really writes down what they do exactly when unbricking, most people panic and do random stuff it seems |
| 21:40:45 | sillytones | bertrik: i can write what i'm doing i guess |
| 21:40:59 | [Saint] | If the spelling doesn't give it away, I'm on my phone...this isn't the easiest for me ;) |
| 21:41:10 | Darko | you know, I learned so much from a broken Sansa :) |
| 21:41:14 | Darko | here is a link |
| 21:41:15 | Darko | http://pastebin.com/2ZrA5QMU |
| 21:41:52 | sillytones | looks like it's not mounted |
| 21:42:08 | Darko | so how to do that? |
| 21:42:08 | bertrik | it should not be mounted when doing dd |
| 21:42:16 | Darko | aha ok |
| 21:42:23 | sillytones | i forget how to find the device name for unmounted things |
| 21:42:31 | sillytones | besides cheating and opening up gparted |
| 21:42:40 | Darko | so now its time to dd' it? |
| 21:42:50 | sillytones | Darko: you need to know its name |
| 21:43:17 | bertrik | I think you can do 'sudo fdisk -l' to see all disks |
| 21:44:09 | [Saint] | sudo fdisk -l should show all disks. |
| 21:44:12 | Darko | sudo here it is |
| 21:44:14 | Darko | http://pastebin.com/MBidsps1 |
| 21:44:15 | [Saint] | Bah! |
| 21:44:46 | sillytones | is your clip 1 gb? |
| 21:44:49 | bertrik | or check with 'dmesg' what happened when you plugged it in, or look in /var/log/syslog |
| 21:45:16 | Darko | its sdb |
| 21:45:22 | sillytones | it's probably /dev/sdb |
| 21:45:23 | Darko | yes |
| 21:45:27 | Darko | yes 1gb only |
| 21:45:38 | [Saint] | That's wrong then. |
| 21:45:51 | [Saint] | You need to expose the recovery partiron. |
| 21:45:53 | Darko | why? |
| 21:46:01 | [Saint] | Not the entire raw device. |
| 21:46:09 | Darko | maybe its Gigabits and GibiBits |
| 21:46:19 | sillytones | bertrik: i'm going to reboot now, will you still be here to walk me through? |
| 21:46:25 | [Saint] | If you don't expose the recovery partiron, THIS WILL NOT QORK |
| 21:46:33 | [Saint] | *WORK |
| 21:46:36 | Darko | well |
| 21:46:45 | Darko | in windows it was reported as 980 Mb |
| 21:46:57 | Darko | 979,75 MB |
| 21:47:12 | Darko | how to that exposure? |
| 21:47:17 | [Saint] | You bridged the unbrick pins while connecting to USB? |
| 21:47:18 | bertrik | I think I only ever saw a 30 MB raw device, not a 1 GB one |
| 21:47:23 | Darko | no other method that I know of |
| 21:47:43 | Darko | yes, two small ones beside small chip |
| 21:47:52 | Darko | i mean not now |
| 21:47:58 | Darko | yesterday |
| 21:48:11 | [Saint] | You need to do this every time you connect USB. |
| 21:48:14 | Darko | i think it wont make any difference |
| 21:48:19 | [Saint] | It does. |
| 21:48:31 | sillytones | rebooting, brb |
| 21:48:32 | Darko | i tried shorting pins several times afterwards in windows |
| 21:48:34 | Darko | nothing happend |
| 21:48:40 | Darko | ok will try |
| 21:48:43 | Darko | again |
| 21:49:22 | [Saint] | If you can't expose the recovery partition, which we can't help you with, there's nothing we can do. |
| 21:50:01 | Darko | will give my best |
| 21:50:34 | bertrik | I guess the unbrick pins have to be shorted while the player starts up |
| 21:51:15 | bertrik | so, IMO, turn off the player with a long press on POWER, then short the pins, plug it in USB with pins shorted, release the short after a few seconds |
| 21:51:53 | [Saint] | bertrik: that's how I did it. |
| 21:53:05 | [Saint] | Mind you...I got a 980MB partition, not 30MB :-S |
| 21:53:26 | [Saint] | This doesn't seem an exact science. |
| 21:54:12 | sillytones | [Saint]: i got 30 without doing anything to pins |
| 21:54:31 | sillytones | bertrik: alright trying what you said, first looking for firmwares |
| 21:54:37 | [Saint] | Yeah...I'm still curious about that. |
| 21:56:01 | [Saint] | bertrik: in case you missed it, sillytones' device decided to expose this 30mb partition all by itself after a hard power down and sitting a week or so. |
| 21:56:27 | Darko | well it still is same |
| 21:56:31 | bertrik | what devices are we talking about really? |
| 21:56:32 | Darko | 1027 MB reported |
| 21:57:05 | sillytones | [Saint]: isn't darko looking at disk size not partition size since nothing is mounted |
| 21:57:22 | Darko | i did it |
| 21:57:23 | sillytones | bertrik: i've got a clip+, Darko has a clip v2 |
| 21:57:27 | Darko | 4 MB partition reveiled |
| 21:57:29 | Darko | ! |
| 21:57:37 | Darko | I used metal tool |
| 21:57:47 | [Saint] | 4 MB? !? |
| 21:57:49 | Darko | whats its name in english... grabber of metal |
| 21:57:56 | Darko | and shorted nand IC rendomly |
| 21:58:01 | Darko | and now i see 4MB |
| 21:58:16 | Darko | yeah |
| 21:58:23 | Darko | maybe i fried it :) |
| 21:58:49 | Urne | very.. interesting! |
| 21:59:04 | [Saint] | Never seen, nor heard of, that before. A 4mb partition. The OF would not fit there. |
| 21:59:06 | Darko | http://pastebin.com/tN2EgjJE |
| 21:59:22 | Darko | maybe some stripped down version? :) |
| 21:59:37 | Darko | just mp3 support, no room for radio :) |
| 22:00 |
| 22:00:22 | Darko | to try another time? |
| 22:00:39 | bertrik | I think we've seen the 4MB disk before, but never really understood what it was good for, maybe funman knows |
| 22:00:57 | sillytones | [Saint]: bertrik: I'm not seeing the clip+ in fdisk |
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| 22:01:48 | bertrik | sillytones, I thought you already had the 30 mb disk? |
| 22:02:00 | sillytones | bertrik: i did in winows |
| 22:02:01 | sillytones | windows |
| 22:02:04 | Darko | now i repeated with old pins everybody nows and its back to 1027MB |
| 22:02:17 | Darko | i think we have to accept this is it |
| 22:02:25 | sillytones | bertrik: i restarted into ubuntu to use dd, now I don't see it |
| 22:02:28 | Darko | all we can do now is try dd-ing |
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| 22:02:47 | bertrik | Darko, I think it can't get any worse by trying ... |
| 22:02:50 | [Saint_] | What...you were shorting RANDOM pins? |
| 22:03:01 | Darko | yeah :) |
| 22:03:12 | Darko | ESD protection worked |
| 22:03:19 | [Saint_] | Do you LIKE this device? :) |
| 22:03:22 | sillytones | [Saint]: could I have rehidden the 30mb partition by leaving it plugged in too long |
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| 22:03:33 | Darko | easy come easy go |
| 22:03:47 | Darko | really i have 5 exams in next 2 months |
| 22:03:55 | Darko | really must keep calm :) |
| 22:04:05 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
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| 22:04:40 | sillytones | i |
| 22:05:01 | bertrik | sillytones, you can try powering it down and then turn it on by plugging USB |
| 22:05:08 | sillytones | i'm not seeing the disk anymore. i really don't know what to do at this point. |
| 22:05:28 | Darko | but i really appreciate your help |
| 22:05:40 | Darko | you have to shortpin it |
| 22:05:42 | sillytones | bertrik: it never powers up when it's plugged in |
| 22:06:51 | bertrik | open a separate terminal window or terminal tab and type 'tail -f /var/log/syslog' |
| 22:07:20 | bertrik | in this mode, you cannot tell if it's powered up or not just by looking at the display |
| 22:08:09 | sillytones | alright, looking at syslog. now should I hold down the power button for 30s and then plug it in? |
| 22:08:14 | Darko | bertrik i also did that |
| 22:08:15 | sillytones | or just plug it in |
| 22:08:21 | Darko | how you know if its powered |
| 22:09:08 | bertrik | you know it's powered if syslog shows a USB device when it's plugged in |
| 22:10:00 | sillytones | bertrik: got something (pastebinning) |
| 22:10:47 | sillytones | looks like a recurring pattern |
| 22:11:07 | bertrik | AFAIK, the most promising method is to 1) unplug the device from USB 2) hold power button for 20sec or so to make sure it's powered off 3) bridge the unbrick pins 4) while bridged, plug it in USB 5) release the unbrick pins after syslog shows that something USB was detected |
| 22:11:50 | bertrik | if you get a 30 MB disk, try dd-ing the original firmware image to it |
| 22:11:57 | Darko | here it is, shorted pins, plugged and then checked |
| 22:11:58 | Darko | http://pastebin.com/zxmxcHca |
| 22:12:11 | bertrik | (not the .zip by the way, but the binary image inside the .zip) |
| 22:13:00 | Darko | so i wont to try dd |
| 22:13:06 | bertrik | Darko, what does sudo fdisk -l say now? |
| 22:13:06 | sillytones | bertrik: http://paste.ubuntu.com/718220/ |
| 22:13:54 | Darko | sudo fdisk -l unchanged |
| 22:13:56 | Darko | http://pastebin.com/APf32zwH |
| 22:14:06 | bertrik | sillytones, hm, there seems to be some other problem, the USB disk is not coming up |
| 22:14:54 | sillytones | bertrik: i think i got it |
| 22:15:11 | sillytones | bertrik:after hodling down the power button it looks like it found it |
| 22:15:55 | sillytones | http://paste.ubuntu.com/718221/ |
| 22:17:03 | bertrik | great, now it's dd time |
| 22:17:10 | sillytones | awesome, clippa.bin? |
| 22:17:37 | sillytones | dd ~/clppa.bin /dev/sdb ? |
| 22:17:43 | sillytones | I don't dd frequently |
| 22:18:04 | bertrik | dd is a bit weird with respect to arguments |
| 22:18:21 | bertrik | you have to do 'sudo dd if=~/clppa.bin of=/dev/sdb' |
| 22:18:32 | sillytones | alright. here goes |
| 22:19:37 | sillytones | its going |
| 22:20:21 | sillytones | i wonder what dd is like if you make it more verbose |
| 22:20:57 | sillytones | alright 16MB copied. should I try powering it on now? |
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| 22:21:26 | bertrik | yeah, unplug, then turn it off and then on again |
| 22:21:27 | [Saint_] | Yep. |
| 22:22:17 | sillytones | nothing :( |
| 22:22:46 | [Saint_] | What happened exactly? |
| 22:23:17 | sillytones | [Saint_]: i held the power button down for 30 s, waited 5 seconds, and pressed it, expecting the screen to come on |
| 22:23:25 | sillytones | I didn't notice any change |
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| 22:23:44 | [Saint_] | Hum... |
| 22:24:11 | sillytones | whatever that 30mb partition was, I dd'd over it though... |
| 22:24:18 | bertrik | do you see anything different in /var/log/syslog when plugging it into USB ? |
| 22:24:28 | sillytones | bertrik: hold on i'll try |
| 22:25:04 | Darko | sorry sillytones to hear that :( |
| 22:25:14 | Darko | Saint I got another idea |
| 22:25:24 | Darko | i unsoldered "-" battery wire |
| 22:25:34 | Darko | i will unsolder "+" wire too |
| 22:25:37 | Darko | and try reseting |
| 22:25:45 | Darko | maybe it is blocking it |
| 22:26:01 | Darko | or... i could just try dd-ing now as it is |
| 22:26:21 | Darko | what you think? |
| 22:26:26 | bertrik | unsoldering the "+" wire is not going to help IMO |
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| 22:27:14 | [Saint_] | Nip...you may as well try DD to the raw device...but, I really doubt success. |
| 22:27:18 | [Saint_] | *Nup |
| 22:28:03 | sillytones | bertrik: http://paste.ubuntu.com/718229/ there's a slight difference compaired to the previous one |
| 22:28:07 | sillytones | a few lines missing |
| 22:28:49 | sillytones | mostly looks the same though |
| 22:29:04 | sillytones | i'm taking a look in fdisk |
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| 22:29:36 | Darko | well it was worth trying |
| 22:29:38 | Darko | ok |
| 22:29:43 | Darko | now its dd time |
| 22:29:56 | bertrik | sillytones, indeed I see no significant change |
| 22:29:57 | Darko | if i am not mistaken |
| 22:30:09 | Darko | m30pa.bin is on my sd1 drive |
| 22:30:17 | Darko | but i want toheck that |
| 22:30:26 | Darko | is there a File manager |
| 22:30:34 | sillytones | bertrik: fdisk sees /dev/sdb as a 32mb disk with no partition table |
| 22:30:38 | Darko | toheck = to check |
| 22:31:05 | bertrik | sillytones, I don't know what to try anymore, maybe you can try again a few more times |
| 22:31:13 | sillytones | bertrik: ok |
| 22:31:26 | sillytones | Darko: there is, just click on the dock icon that looks like a folder |
| 22:32:02 | bertrik | I can't remember if there really was a partition, or that I copied the original firmware image directly to the raw disk |
| 22:32:33 | bertrik | maybe the 30 mb raw disk needs to be partitioned first |
| 22:32:47 | sillytones | bertrik: would it be fat 16 or fat 32? |
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| 22:34:08 | bertrik | I don't know, it didn't have a file system when I did it |
| 22:34:54 | sillytones | i'll try 16 then 32 |
| 22:35:04 | sillytones | after formatting do I use the same dd command? |
| 22:35:58 | | Quit [Saint] (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) |
| 22:36:10 | sillytones | create an ms-dos partition table? |
| 22:36:11 | Darko | ok thanks sillytone |
| 22:36:18 | bertrik | It doesn't need formatting, maybe only partitioning |
| 22:36:38 | Darko | now just to put something in my mouth, never do important job on empty stomach :) |
| 22:37:07 | bertrik | wash your hands after soldering, before eating |
| 22:37:20 | sillytones | bertrik: hmm,, what technique do you suggest I use? I only know gparted, and it says i need a partition table first |
| 22:37:28 | Darko | oh i disconnected soldering iron |
| 22:38:18 | bertrik | sillytones, sorry I don't know |
| 22:38:39 | sillytones | i guess it doesn't hurt to try |
| 22:38:40 | bertrik | I think we (the rockbox dev team) should have a closer look at the internal AMS code |
| 22:38:59 | sillytones | what does AMS stand for btw? |
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| 22:39:16 | n1s | Austria mircosystems |
| 22:39:21 | n1s | micro* |
| 22:39:22 | bertrik | austria micro systems, the manufacturer of the main chip |
| 22:39:55 | sillytones | funman appeared earlier, but said something about needing to charge his laptop, too bad we can't ask the expert |
| 22:40:10 | Urne | was just about to ask. I just found there was 184 abbrevations for AMS. |
| 22:40:12 | n1s | btw wasn't formatting and or partitioning a nice way to get serious trouble with some older sansa in recovery mode? |
| 22:40:28 | n1s | i never remember how these weird recovery modes work |
| 22:40:33 | sillytones | maybe i shouldn't partition then |
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| 22:41:50 | n1s | i'd say that the best way would be to get ahold of someone who knows how to do this and not try random stuff unless you can't find any such person |
| 22:41:54 | sillytones | think i should send funman a memo and see if he'd be willing to help me out later |
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| 22:46:45 | Darko | ok fresh as new :) too bad my Sansa is not :( |
| 22:47:25 | Darko | ok, my .bin is on a 7.7GB partition (root) |
| 22:47:30 | Darko | and my sansa is sdb |
| 22:47:36 | Darko | now to dd it |
| 22:48:03 | sillytones | alright sent a memo to funman |
| 22:48:08 | Darko | m30pa.nin |
| 22:48:15 | sillytones | hope he's able to help |
| 22:48:17 | Darko | m30pa.bin |
| 22:48:35 | Darko | can someone help me with the right command? |
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| 22:50:21 | Darko | Saint welcome back |
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| 23:03:43 | saratoga | bertrik: according to the wiki, just sending over an OF.bin file won't work, so probably no surprise it didn't work here |
| 23:03:50 | saratoga | i think you need to send over an image from a working player |
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| 23:05:46 | Darko | Saint |
| 23:05:57 | Darko | can you help me with dd command? |
| 23:08:39 | dfkt | does using a peak meter in a theme use significantly more processing power/battery? |
| 23:09:00 | saratoga | it uses some more power, probably depends on the target |
| 23:09:07 | saratoga | the screen will refresh a lot more IIRC |
| 23:10:20 | dfkt | i see. too bad that's not easily measured with batter runtime, except one wants to 'burn in' the screen |
| 23:11:11 | saratoga | hopefully we're smart enough to not calculate it when teh screen is off |
| 23:11:23 | Darko | can someone help me with dd command? |
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| 23:11:38 | Darko | its getting late at my place :) |
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| 23:15:27 | dfkt | regarding screen refresh - i'd like text lines scrolling as smooth as possible, meaning in 1px steps. but then the maximum speed of 15 is kind of slow. would it be easy to tweak the source to provide faster speed? |
| 23:16:30 | saratoga | its probably just a variable somewhere in the wps code, but i don't know much about that |
| 23:16:34 | saratoga | kugel could probably tell you |
| 23:16:38 | dfkt | i will have a look |
| 23:17:46 | pixelma | the scroll speed settings are in the menu, it's something general, not something WPS or theme specific (code wise) |
| 23:18:45 | bertrik | What is at 0xc607000 in the AMSv2? |
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| 23:22:15 | dfkt | menu.c has a lot of scrolling references |
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| 23:26:15 | dfkt | ah, settings_list.c seems to be the right one |
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| 23:27:52 | Darko | bertrik |
| 23:27:54 | saratoga | is it hard to get the clipv2 open? |
| 23:28:02 | Darko | can you help figuring dd command? |
| 23:28:08 | Darko | saratoga no |
| 23:28:16 | Darko | clip v2 is very easy to open |
| 23:28:28 | Darko | I used razor/scalpel tool |
| 23:28:41 | Darko | gently it will open by very little force |
| 23:28:46 | Darko | you have youtube video |
| 23:28:58 | Darko | then you have 5-6 little screws |
| 23:29:42 | Darko | gently remove heatsink and you will see one side of the board with battery attached to it with double-sided mini tape |
| 23:30:16 | Darko | i haven't gone dipper then this |
| 23:30:41 | Darko | unless you wish to dissasamble oled screen and get to other side |
| 23:31:39 | Darko | its getting late here at my place |
| 23:32:15 | Darko | i wish to try dd-ing my sansa, so far it is seen as 1014 MB drive, not mounted |
| 23:32:40 | Darko | i have m30pa.bin on my 7GB partition and sansa is sbd |
| 23:32:54 | Darko | what should be the proper command? |
| 23:37:39 | Darko | I have trouble figuring first part of command |
| 23:38:01 | Darko | dd if=???/m30pa.bin of=/dev/sdb |
| 23:38:27 | Darko | how to find out source drive letters |
| 23:38:36 | Darko | i tried sda1 (first partition) |
| 23:38:51 | Darko | but it reports no such dir |
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| 23:42:00 | Darko | any help anyone? |
| 23:47:44 | Darko | ill try tomorow, bye everyone! |
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| 23:50:27 | * | bertrik now has a nearly complete disassembly of the clip+ internal rom |
| 23:50:42 | sillytones | cool |
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| 23:52:53 | sillytones | saratoga: I happen to have another working clip+ |
| 23:53:05 | sillytones | how do I get the image |
| 23:53:11 | dfkt | i changed the scroll speed from 15 to 25 here - http://pastie.org/2753038 - it shows up, but it's not doing anything. any hints on where else to look? |
| 23:54:07 | saratoga | sillytones: with the dd command on the wiki page |
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| 23:54:29 | saratoga | (in the recovery mode) |
| 23:54:40 | sillytones | do I need to get the recovery partition first? |
| 23:54:43 | saratoga | i guess we could also dump it pretty easily from rockbox, but you'd have to write some code to do it |
| 23:55:09 | saratoga | bertrik: where did you get the ROM from? dumped in recovery mode or? |
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