#rockbox 2011-11-07

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#rockbox log for 2011-11-07

00:02:55	bertrik	jhMikeS, I think we can just mutex the si4700_read and write functions, because basically all calls eventually go through that
00:08:08	jhMikeS	might as well not have them then
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01:36:18	andrej	Is the developer pamaury sometimes in this channel?
01:36:59	JdGordon	quite often
01:37:30	JdGordon	he went offline about 90min ago
01:37:36	andrej	Ok, so I jjust missed him... Have some problems regarding his experimental fuzeplus support.
01:37:42	andrej	Yes, thought so.
01:38:20	andrej	I'm pretty sure that I just made some dumb beginner error which is easy to solve, but I don't know which. :D
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03:02:53	[Saint]	If the Fuze's mainboard says "REV 1.41" I have a V1?
03:05:02	funman	[Saint]: check fuze pics on the wiki, i'm pretty sure i had a rev 1.41 fuze
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03:31:05	[Saint]	Bah! I can get scrolling...according to voice working...working, but not the buttonlight.
03:31:09	[Saint]	Any suggestions?
03:31:26	[Saint]	I'm assuming its a missaligned zif connector for the clickwheel.
03:31:44	[Saint]	funman: Any tips on re-inserting the clickwheel ribbon?
03:55:08	saratoga	use a pair of long tweezers, shut the case most of the way and then manipulate the ribbon into the connector
03:58:12	[Saint]	trying exactly that :-S
03:58:26	[Saint]	I just can't seem to get the wheel light functioning again.
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05:21:18	JdGordon	jhMikeS: saratoga: Unhelpful: <other code smart people>: know a better way to do what im doing in the mailing list thread?
05:21:35	JdGordon	or is it not as bad as i think it is?
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05:22:51	saratoga	i don't know why you'd ask me, i barely know how to program
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05:24:16	saratoga	but i guess macros make the most sense
05:24:54	Unhelpful	I'm what, now?
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05:25:36	JdGordon	ok i admit it, i just named people i thought were online :p
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05:28:24	saratoga	i guess the basic idea is that you want to have some kind of macro that converts a relative location into some kind of c pointer?
05:28:42	saratoga	off hand that seems like a good solution but i'm not too familar with that code
05:28:48	JdGordon	yeah, ideally with some way of making sure you are getting the right pointer type
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05:32:41	jhMikeS	JdGordon: which one in particular?
05:32:51	JdGordon	?
05:33:03	jhMikeS	ml thread
05:33:10	JdGordon	dev obviously :)
05:33:22	jhMikeS	skin engine 2.0?
05:33:25	JdGordon	yeah
05:34:03	JdGordon	Ideally i want a macro which will give a compile warning if you use the wrong type but i doubt it is possible
05:34:38	JdGordon	diong a runtime check is easy, but pointless
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05:45:30	jhMikeS	I'm not sure what gives it a "type". It looks like to/from an offset into a generic buffer
05:46:30	JdGordon	it is, which is why i tihnk its not possible to do what I want
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06:07:00	[Saint]	Ok...what the hell? I just installed Rockbox on my LCDless fuze (turns out I didn't break it) and there's still included themes other than cabbie.
06:07:38	[Saint]	boxes, dancepuff duo, iCatcher, Rockboxed, Unicatcher
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06:08:27	[Saint]	Oh! Derp! I probably installed the release ;)
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06:11:43	JdGordon	you're getting a "should be working" fuze in the next few days... surely you'd rather work on a awesome cabbie.sbs using skin lists no?
06:11:52	JdGordon	or a 1024*768 theme? :)
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06:22:01	[Saint]	I suppose the HP touchpad "just so happens to be" 1024x768 huh? ;)
06:22:33	JdGordon	a mere coincidence :)
06:39:20	[Saint]	Is the Fuze supposed to not go into USB mode if plugged when the player is off?
06:39:24	[Saint]	(V1)
06:39:53	[Saint]	My assumption is that this isn't desired behaviour. If it is, I can't really see the reasoning for it.
06:40:15	JdGordon	ams doesnt have bootloader usb by default iirc
06:40:45	[Saint]	It does indeed seem to have bootloader USB. Its hard to confirm with no LCD, but I seem to have discovered it.
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06:45:54	[Saint]	I think it might be a fallback case though, similar to that which the iPods have where if the bootloader is present but the binary isn't it can mount to allow you to fix it.
06:46:49	[Saint]	I'll poke at it some more assuming Australian Post gets its act into gear soon ;)
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07:09:43	Unhelpful	JdGordon: it probably breaks coding style, but, compile-time assert in C: http://www.jaggersoft.com/pubs/CVu11_3.html
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07:11:29	JdGordon	eewww
07:11:36	JdGordon	don't think that would work for what I want anyway
07:15:09	Unhelpful	Works for anything const, otherwise you can't check at compile anyway.
07:15:26	[Saint]	Weird bug...
07:15:43	[Saint]	"back" doesn't work in USB charge only mode on the Fuze
07:15:53	[Saint]	s/back/<</
07:18:14	[Saint]	Yep...wow, that's bloody weird.
07:19:01	[Saint]	Assuming that's confirmed...that's not something one wants to push into the release branch...is it?
07:19:19	*	[Saint] feels a little guilty about finding this now ;)
07:21:02	saratoga	i still don't understand why the Clip (and only the Clip) doesn't update the screen if test_codec finishes with the back light off
07:21:06	saratoga	every other player is ok with that
07:21:18	saratoga	but the clip just keeps showing whatever was on the screen when the light went off
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07:21:58	[Saint]	saratoga: You don't happen to have a V1 Fuze, do you?
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07:22:04	saratoga	i do
07:22:32	[Saint]	If you could, when you get a chance, could you check if << works in USB charge only mode?
07:22:40	[Saint]	(in current SVN head)
07:23:43	[Saint]	Shit...whoops: +Please & Thankyou.
07:24:16	saratoga	it should
07:24:31	saratoga	i changed the charge mode logic a while ago to accept any button
07:24:38	saratoga	so it shouldn't matter what you press
07:24:56	[Saint]	No no...I mean, when the device is in charge only mode, I can't back out of any menu using <<
07:25:15	[Saint]	unplug, and Bam! << magically works again.
07:26:16	[Saint]	Sorry, I was a little vague with my initial description.
07:27:37	saratoga	it works as expected with r30835-111023
07:27:41	saratoga	is that new enough?
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07:28:15	[Saint]	I'm on 30925
07:29:43	[Saint]	pressing "select" is also causing it to leave the USB HID mode its in...not sure if that's intentional or not.
07:30:00	[Saint]	(when its connected as an HID device)
07:31:21	saratoga	[Saint]: with current build << works as expected while in charger mode
07:32:01	[Saint]	Hummm....something is seriously messed up in this install somehow then. I can't see how, I used RButil.
07:32:09	saratoga	ok got my clip+ locked at FCLK=PCLK=40MHz, going to try a battery bench
07:32:51	saratoga	voltages are default, but in theory they could be lowered some since FCLK is lower, but for now i'll just worry about stock settings
07:37:01	[Saint]	Ahhhhhh...shit.
07:37:15	[Saint]	Looks like I have to do a bisect.
07:37:46	[Saint]	the current release works as expected, svn head has this weirdness with USB.
07:38:16	[Saint]	with a little luck I'll have a target with an LCD for this tomorrow.
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08:35:19	JdGordon	Sooooooo....... branch and unfreeze?
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08:38:57	Zagor	JdGordon: sounds good to me
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10:18:26	CIA-22	New commit by pamaury (r30926): fuze+: fix typo in lcd init sequence for second lcd type
10:20:35	CIA-22	r30926 build result: All green
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10:53:28	rarog	pamaury: it's perhaps faster to ask here. :D will you need the lcd dump for some further investigation and/or potential debugging even if the typo in lcd iniciation should fix my grey screen problem?
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10:56:01	pamaury	the lcd dump will ensure that your lcd is indeed the one I'm expecting, it will avoid loosing time
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10:58:08	pamaury	rarog: but then just try to rebuild with the latest svn perhaps it will work
10:58:42	rarog	ok, I'll try to recompile first.
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10:59:56	rarog	paumary: and btw, I think that it's just the second type of lcd as it seems to work for three people including you but not me. I bought my fuze+ in germany.
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11:01:05	rarog	pamaury: perhaps all the european fuze+ use the second type.
11:01:39	pamaury	that's my theory :)
11:02:31	pamaury	we'll see, in all cases I was waiting for someone to pop out and say that one kind of lcd didn't work
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11:11:21	rarog	yeah. and i'm glad to help. I was waiting for some months for rockbox as it is in most cases superior to the original firmware and my wishes in the OF will be probably ignored. things like albumartist-tag which is useful for compilations.
11:11:56	rarog	at least with OF I can now use folder navigation tu circumvent this issue.
11:12:05	rarog	*to
11:12:43	rarog	and I'm waiting to see the very fast boot into rockbox and just play music at once. :D
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11:14:28	rarog	if the lcd starts to work I can provide an additional tester, as my gf has one fuze+ and is waiting for rockbox port, too. :)
11:21:21	pamaury	what is really useful is to stress the fuze+ with all the audio you have (and yes it will pop on boot unfortunately)
11:23:46	rarog	pop? you mean a sound heard in the headphones?
11:24:20	rarog	at least this is the case in the OF, it was always a signal for me that in another minute it's finally usable.
11:25:17	pamaury	if you boot rockbox with the headphones plugged in, it will "pop", it only happen one when charging the capacity and I'm unable to cancel it for now
11:25:29	pamaury	s/one/once
11:25:39	pamaury	it's not important, just annoying :)
11:27:04	rarog	yeah, but I'm used to the annoyance of the OF, so it won't be a big ussue for me, I think. :D
11:28:11	rarog	for me it seems like an issue with hardware if it happens in rockbox AND the OF.
11:29:22	pamaury	in theory the chip as a pop cancellation procedure but it doesn't work apparently; also tell me if you feel the audio is of lesser quality or something, some audio parameters can be tweaked
11:30:03	rarog	yes, I can stress test it comparing it to the output of the OF.
11:33:11	rarog	hm... rockbox still doesn't have video playback with MPEG4, but for this I can still use the OF which isn't a big issue. It was an issue for me some years ago when I user rockbox on ipod 5g as I refuesd to use itunes. fortunately fuze+ doesn't use any special software and special container, so falling back to OF is never an issue. (and I watch videos only rarely)
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11:49:40	pamaury	yes I don't know what is the state of mpegplayer, I never watch videos on my mp3 players, the screen is too small
11:51:09	rarog	I use to watch yellow submarine from time to time as the film doesn't require too many fine details, I know it completely and the pictures just complement the music. :D
11:52:19	rarog	but as I said, in 99% of cases I just want to listen to music and use display to see the song name or to change the played song, so video function in rockbox has only low priority for me
11:55:09	*	JdGordon is amazingly about half way through the skin engine stuff he was saying was gong to be a massive rework! :p
11:59:53	JdGordon	so, who remembers how to do a svn branch? :)
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12:10:46	[Saint]	most of it could be done with clever scripting no?
12:11:11	[Saint]	its just a lot of replacing values hither and thither is it not, or is there more to it?
12:13:28	JdGordon	no
12:13:46	JdGordon	every pointer neds to be carefully replaced
12:13:58	JdGordon	fortunately it is only half a dozen files, but still.. lots of boring work
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12:26:02	kugel	JdGordon: svn cp
12:29:43	rarog	pamaury: btw as for comparsion of sound output, wouldn't it be a possibility to record output of OF and rockbox on and then compare digitally?
12:30:02	JdGordon	kugel: wanna do it? :)
12:30:29	kugel	JdGordon: didn't get ci access back yet?
12:30:42	JdGordon	doing other stuff :p
12:30:48	pamaury	rarog: if your audio card is good enough yes, you can run some tools, I know nothing about it and but I know someone did it for the clip+. Otherwise you can use some specialized tools
12:30:52	pamaury	(hardware)
12:31:09	JdGordon	and if the upload isnt free it will tak ages to do the svn commit here
12:31:22	kugel	JdGordon: you can do it without local copy IIRC. svn cp <from-url> <to-url>
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13:01:21	kugel	okay, so as we've branched, can I get opinions on FS #12358?
13:01:21	fs-bluebot	http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12358 Support for transparency in 32bit Bitmaps (patches, new)
13:02:46	kugel	I'd like to submit, but I expect it slows down resizing a bit
13:03:21	kugel	drawing is slower too, but I added a "this image doesnt actually contain alpha information"-case which is drawn in the old&fast code path
13:03:50	JdGordon	got screenshots that actually show a useful difference?
13:04:59	kugel	plus, ultimatively, I want new icons using this, especially for RaaA (FS #12328 is useful for that too). that needs a decision on what to do with the existing icons. they a) dont have alpha infos, b) look a bit worse, c) have different icons than the one the tango script generates
13:05:00	fs-bluebot	http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12328 move icons onto buflib and remove the 24x24 max iconsize limitation (patches, new)
13:09:42	kugel	JdGordon: http://imagebin.org/181579 (32bit) vs http://imagebin.org/181580 (svn, [Saint]'s icons)
13:10:35	JdGordon	the "resume playback" arrow is the only one i can actually see a difference
13:10:52	wodz	I would say go commit. Alpha blending was looong discussed idea
13:11:25	kugel	well, the database is pretty obvious (and has a shadow)
13:11:52	kugel	wodz: the alpha blending is already in svn actually. it's just enabling it for 32bit bitmaps
13:12:12	[Saint]	Awww..hell yeah. My iconset was a quick hack, I always intended to do soemthing better, but it was one of those "round-to-it" things.
13:13:26	[Saint]	these iconsets can be created with a nice script...and look a lot better than I could get them at varying resolutions without alpha blanding.
13:13:51	[Saint]	I'm all for it, its less work for me...and a prettier return.
13:14:15	JdGordon	if it speeds up 1024*768 cabbie go for it :)
13:15:54	kugel	[Saint]: I added resizing support, btw, but I suggest not usign it for icons
13:16:41	kugel	the result is not so pretty. mostly ugly for upscaling, for downscaling only acceptable for non-odd factors (i.e. 1/2)
13:16:46	[Saint]	kugel: Right, yeah...I didn't think it'd look that great. Upsizing wouldn't bee too bad, though right?
13:17:00	[Saint]	Oh...I thought downscaled would look worse.
13:17:02	[Saint]	Hmmm.
13:17:27	kugel	on the pc you can create them from svg so the result is always better
13:17:54	[Saint]	kugel: Do you have some method of producing an iconset from cabbie sources for <arbitrary size>?
13:18:13	[Saint]	Getting some target specific sized icons in svn is long overdue.
13:18:34	kugel	well, there's a script in svn
13:18:57	[Saint]	Ah, right. I thought you might have been using bluebrother's script...but wasn't sure.
13:19:06	kugel	it's a bit outdated, but point it to untarred tango set, specify icon size and let it go
13:19:19	kugel	I was using that
13:29:34	kugel	JdGordon: how far is the gui boost patch?
13:29:53	JdGordon	i didnt work on it since it was discussed
13:30:19	kugel	the e200 needs it also if anti-aliased fonts are used. I suspect it's worsened (however I didnt notice anything major) with alpha icons
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14:39:24	JdGordon	Do we definitly want gui boost on wheel?
14:39:53	kugel	why only on wheel, btw?
14:40:24	kugel	shouldnt be any user interaction responsive and thus boosted?
14:40:35	JdGordon	only if it is actually needed
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14:57:22	[Saint]	Or, is that a: V2 only, or b: something I imagined?
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17:28:33	bluebrother	the tango iconset script isn't outdated anymore, I updated that some days ago
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17:30:41	bluebrother	yay, that H10 reports 130% battery level :)
17:31:01	kugel	bluebrother: oh sorry!
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17:31:18	kugel	in the tango tarball I got the software-update icon was missing
17:31:50	bluebrother	oh, maybe they changed that? The only missing icon is (was) the moved rockbox-clef.svg for me
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17:32:44	ukleinek	bluebrother: it will explode on 150%
17:32:51	kugel	bluebrother: well, I dont have an official tarball as the tango site is still unavailable
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17:34:27	bluebrother	kugel: ah, that's the reason I can't find the tango website :)
17:35:39	kugel	I got them from here http://art.gnome.org/themes/icon/1150
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19:01:34	metaphys	hello I've got a problem with a FLAC file but I don't know If I'm supposed to file a but report because I used the file only for test purpose. After analysing it, it turns out that it is FLAC 32 bit surroud 5.1 (6 channel :D) one song is about 250 MB and the album weight like over 3 GB!! Is Rockbox supposed to handle such a monster ???
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19:02:28	alienkid	pamaury: I want to try the Fuze+ port can I do so on Windows? If not No problem I just need to use my VM. But I really came in here wanting to know how to REMOVE the ROM if it doesn't work or something
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19:04:22	pamaury	alienkid: yes you can try it under windows but it means someone has to build it for you (I can), remove the bootloader is also possible but you'll need to download a tool from freescale to do so because my tool doesn't work under windows yet
19:04:30	pamaury	*removing
19:05:07	pamaury	hum, thinking about it, you should be able to remove it even without the tool normally
19:06:00	alienkid	would you mind building it for me or telling me how I can build it?
19:06:31	alienkid	also would reapplying the sansa firmware remove it?
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19:07:49	pamaury	yes exactly, if you "update" it with the OF from sansa, it will remove it (by booting in the OF). Wait a minute I will upload a build
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19:09:30	alienkid	OK thank you.
19:09:41	metaphys	plus I have no idea how to split such a file to sent it in a bug report...
19:10:52	pamaury	metaphys: can't to just copy a small fraction of it with an audio tool ?
19:11:39	alienkid	pamaury: how's the brick chance?
19:12:21	pamaury	you can't brick it, you can also use the hardware recovery mode and all other people have reported success (at least can boot in the OF in any case)
19:13:04	pamaury	(by can't I mean, extremely unlikely except by doing crazy things that the code won't do anyway)
19:13:34	alienkid	ok. HW recovery mode?
19:14:10	pamaury	if you plug usb with volume up hold, the device show up as a HID device in which you can upload code to it, so it's possible to recover
19:14:18	metaphys	pamaury: you mean like dding the file?
19:15:16	metaphys	i'm trying with gnusound but i can't find how to copy several channel
19:15:31	alienkid	so with the HW recovery mode I could boot to it temporarily or something?
19:15:45	pamaury	it's not that simple, you have to upload a recovery file which will then make the device show up as UMS in which you can dd the file (but there is an offset to get right also)
19:15:58	metaphys	but primary I would like to know if it worth it, because it's not a 24 bit as I first thought: it's 32 bit!
19:16:33	alienkid	oh
19:16:35	pamaury	alienkid: theoretically yes, you could try rockbox without installing the bootloader
19:17:01	alienkid	pamaury: I'll stick with the normal method
19:17:39	alienkid	esp. if it's as easy as refreshing the original FW.
19:20:29	alienkid	pamaury: where will I be able to download it? Besides the normal manual update process anything else I need to do?
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19:21:22	pamaury	alienkid: I'm uploading the files because we do not provide bootloader for the fuze+ yet, but the file is 33MB so it takes a few moments
19:21:40	alienkid	ok
19:21:55	metaphys	I have another question nothing to do with it... A font in a theme is missing some french caracter. I saw there's a converter from normal font format to rb font's file. How about reverse I need to edit the font in order to add the caracter and then repack it ....
19:22:17	alienkid	I'm gonna be away for a bit so PM me any other instructions and link when it's up.
19:23:19	metaphys	alienkid: to install it with someone uploading the file you just need to copy an firmware.sb + unpack a zip file in the root of your player
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19:33:36	alienkid	metaphys: Oh. I've never done this before so
19:36:52	metaphys	it is just copying a few file, very easy
19:37:15	alienkid	yeah just like I normally update FW
19:37:23	alienkid	hold on switching clients
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19:41:55	alienkid10	so to charge and sync I need to boot to the OF right? By holding down vol down and pluging in?
19:42:36	pamaury	yes
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19:43:21	alienkid10	pamaury: to do the initial relfash MTP or MSC mode?
19:43:31	alienkid10	reflash*
19:43:43	pamaury	MSC
19:43:46	pamaury	I guess
19:43:48	alienkid10	OK.
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19:46:02	alienkid10	now to wait for it to update...
19:46:05	metaphys	ok I find my way to produce a file (is it really of the same kind I don't anyway it still doesn't work and has 32 bits and 6 channel :D
19:46:40	metaphys	I will post a bug report in a minute
19:47:46	alienkid10	pamaury: my player just grayscreened then went white then dark
19:48:26	saratoga	post the first 30 seconds of the file
19:48:36	saratoga	and double check that the file plays somewhere before you upload it
19:49:37	alienkid10	pamaury: guess I have second display type?
19:50:02	pamaury	guess so, then you'd better reinstall the OF
19:50:11	alienkid10	will do
19:50:11	pamaury	before we find out why it doesn't work
19:51:11	alienkid10	so drop OF firmware.sb on it then unplug and hold down right?
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19:51:53	alienkid10	updating fuze+...
19:52:33	metaphys	suspense! :D
19:52:48	alienkid10	pamaury: guess I'll wait then eh?
19:52:58	alienkid10	metaphys: heh
19:53:18	alienkid10	yay sansa boot logo!
19:53:22	alienkid10	loading...
19:53:29	AlexP_mob	Can someone change the topic? I don't feel like trying from a mobile phone.
19:53:29	metaphys	so for my bug it's codecs's section, right?
19:53:50	bertrik	AlexP_mob, change it into what?
19:54:00	alienkid10	succes
19:54:45	metaphys	sagarota: the first 30 second? you means like 50MB? :D
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19:55:15	alienkid10	pamaury: thanks for your hardwork on the port!
19:55:29	metaphys	I've post like 3 seconds, its 1,4 MB
19:55:34	AlexP_mob	Bertrik: to announce the branch
19:55:39	alienkid10	hopefully you'll get the second screen figured out sometime!
19:56:13	metaphys	I've tested the sample no problem to read from totem, fail from device...
19:56:19	alienkid10	until then I'm one of the few who is OK with the OF.
19:56:37	metaphys	here it is: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12371
19:57:05	alienkid10	Thanks again. I wish I could help but not really a coder and not too adventurous.
19:57:55	pamaury	alienkid10: no problem, thanks for testing, hopefully we'll solve the screen problem soon
19:58:26	alienkid10	pamaury: I'll be watching your thread and the port page until then.
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19:59:15	bertrik	jhMikeS, I'm pretty happy with the state of the latest RDS patch. Things I'd still like to do: 1) simplify the <tuner>_detect stuff so we don't have to have these awkward init-just-before-use mutexes 2) #ifdef things a bit to limit binsize increase for non-RDS targets
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20:16:02	metaphys	pamaury: I have a question regarding touchpad. Do rockbox support having different mapping of it depending on the menu active or is it mandatory a pain basis driver on the wich one rockbox works?
20:16:21	metaphys	*plain
20:18:10	pamaury	metaphys: rockbox support having different key mapping depending on the menu, since the touchpad is currently faking keys, the answer is yes
20:18:47	pamaury	however I'm not sure of how far we can go by faking keys with it
20:19:56	Buschel	kugel, JdGordon: re your today's discussion. shall we bring the gui boost stuff to svn? if so, for wheel only?
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20:55:58	saratoga	is logf defined in the Sim?
20:56:32	saratoga	or do i have to do something to enable seeing those logf prints
20:57:27	pamaury	saratoga: you can use it in the seem but you need to enable it like on normal target
20:58:01	saratoga	enable it in configure, or do I need to define something in the files where i want to see it?
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21:04:06	bluebrother	has there been an updater for the H10 MTP around? I can't find working links at the iriver site anymore :(
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21:29:12	jhMikeS	bertrik: 1) my suggestion is to try tuner_init by changing it to return a code. if it fails, try the next kind and tuner_detect_type could go in the dustbin. 2) makes sense if there's no chance of RDS being present
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21:37:12	rarog	pamaury: I'm finally home, just re-compiled rockbox and am updating the firmware again.
21:38:50	pamaury	ok, apparently even with the patch it doesn't work, so can you try to run the tool I posted after you confirm that ?
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21:39:56	rarog	yes, just noticed that. still grey screen. :D
21:43:52	rarog	so I just need to compile sbloader and push the recovery.db to my fuze+, right?
21:45:02	pamaury	yes
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21:48:25	rarog	just running make in rockbox/utils/imxtools/ ?
21:48:45	pamaury	yes
21:51:07	rarog	good, i compiled it. do i have to connect to usb with original or rockbox firmware?
21:53:12	pamaury	connect usb while hold Voulme Up to boot into recovery mode
21:53:18	pamaury	then send the recovery.sb file using sbload
21:53:30	pamaury	*holding
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21:58:40	rarog	paumary: http://pastebin.com/XHLGpfnm <- here is the output
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22:03:02	pamaury	ok, it means you have the second kind of lcd but then I don't know why it doesn't work, I checked the init sequence against the OF yesterday (and found only one mismatch) :-/
22:04:25	rarog	hm... :/
22:05:05	pamaury	one possibility is that they changed the sequence since then and the firmware I'm disassembling has it wrong but that seems unlikely
22:05:11	rarog	and the code correctly detects the second type of lcd and tries to send the init code?
22:05:47	rarog	can you build some debug sequence to log the hardware feedback from commands into a file on fuze+?
22:07:14	pamaury	there is no hardware feedback for the screen, at best I can make it write the lcd_kind to a file perhaps
22:07:47	rarog	To see if the correct code is running?
22:08:06	pamaury	to see if the kind is correctly detected, we never know
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22:09:22	pamaury	hum, could you try something ? Modify code and recompile rockbox ? (you won't need to touch the bootloader)
22:09:25	rarog	let's try it, it's better then nothing.
22:09:28	rarog	sure.
22:10:00	pamaury	in firmware/target/arm/imx233/sansa-fuzeplus/lcd-fuzeplus.c, line 384
22:10:22	pamaury	change LCD_KIND_7783 to LCD_KIND_9325 and change lcd_init_seq_7783 to lcd_init_seq_9325 the line just after
22:10:38	pamaury	it will make the code default to your lcd kind in case it's not detected properly
22:13:15	rarog	yes some seconds
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22:16:49	rarog	recompiling now
22:23:10	rarog	ok, done. now reconnecting to usb.
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22:28:43	rarog	No, still grey display. :/
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22:29:13	rarog	So detection is correct, but the init code somehow wrong
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22:32:08	pamaury	I'll try to disassemble the latest version
22:32:23	rarog	Ok.
22:32:57	rarog	How long do you think i will take? I think that I'll be online for at least 1,5h more now.
22:34:51	rarog	Do you remember, which firmware version you took for disasm? Perhaps it really was a version before the European versions were on market and they really changed the final code.
22:37:21	pamaury	I don't remember
22:37:35	pamaury	it should be fast but I won't do it now
22:38:28	rarog	Ok, so I'll ask you tomorrow (local time) if you could find the changes
22:39:22	rarog	s/the/any
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23:01:43	wodz	Finally spotted part in disassm of rk27xx nand bootloader reponsible for filling missing ftl data. I looked at this function dozen of times but until now I didn't recognized what is the meaning. Now I can start the work on dualboot for this platform :-)
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23:09:38	pamaury	ok finally i've looked at the latest version and I can't find any difference in the init sequence
23:09:46	pamaury	i'll have a look at the enable one
23:13:20	pamaury	so that leaves two possibility: there is still a mistake or the two lcd don't use the same hardware parameters
23:21:26	rarog	yeah... sad that there are no open documentations for these
23:22:31	pamaury	actually for that one I might have
23:23:17	pamaury	but even then, the init sequence is too complicated, I don't understand much of the lcd parameters
23:23:45	pamaury	I will check if the bus width match however if I can make sense of it
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23:26:14	rarog	hm... ok.
23:26:16	rarog	I'll test everything you need.
23:28:43	wodz	I guess the fastest route would be if you swap your f+ :-)
23:29:30	rarog	Well, don't think so.
23:29:53	rarog	I suspect that American and European f+ use the different displays.
23:30:07	rarog	So in Europe I'd always have the 2nd type of display.
23:30:31	wodz	I mean exchange your f+ with pamaury
23:30:43	rarog	Ah xD
23:31:18	pamaury	Actually I don't know from where is mine, I bought it from second hand in France but I'm not sure the guy bought it in France
23:31:34	pamaury	And I first need to understand why it's not working
23:32:03	pamaury	having a non-working device will not help :)
23:33:49	wodz	it will for sure - you will have strong motivation
23:33:52	wodz	:-)
23:34:57	pamaury	:)
23:40:18	rarog	are the lcd enabling function and the one for backlight separate in the OF?
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23:41:42	pamaury	yes, they have nothing to do. Backlight obviously works otherwise you wouldn't be seeing a grey screen
23:42:03	pamaury	what si strange is that the lcd must be enable somehow, otherwise you would be seeing garbage :)
23:45:07	rarog	hm... enabled and cleared...
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23:58:52	rarog	ok, first result for search "lcd 9325" seems to give the documentation pdf, which paumary seems to have.

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