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10:18:42*bertrik wants to draw coloured rectangles in a plugin and wonders about the simplest way to do that
10:19:14JdGordonscreens[].draw_rect()
10:20:42bertrikI think I can't use global variables in a plugin
10:21:06kugelbertrik: rb->screens[].draw_rect()...
10:23:03JdGordonkugel: did you test the inbuilt icons with the transparency changes? (i know there shouldnt be any change)
10:23:31kugelyes
10:24:17kugelis there something wrong?
10:24:25*JdGordon does a make veryclean to double check
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10:25:11JdGordonhttp://imagebin.org/183894
10:25:24JdGordonthats not what they are *supposed* to look like is it?
10:25:56kugelI dont think so
10:26:57JdGordonVersion: r30951-111113
10:27:01JdGordoni.e clean svn
10:27:33JdGordonactually, let me pull :p
10:29:45kugelJdGordon: hm, looks like the inbuilt icons dont have the FORMAT_MONO flag set, so lcd_bmp draws possibly draws wrongly
10:30:45kugelno, FORMAT_MONO is 0, so defaults to it for static struct bitmaps
10:31:06desowinwe have clear sound on Sandisk Sansa Connect :-) gentelemns mail in preparation
10:31:34kugelawesome!"
10:31:49kugeldont we run on the entire sansa line by now? :)
10:32:45n1sno
10:33:04kugelright. sansa view
10:33:09n1sthe weird low end ones that are probably discontinued and the view
10:35:13JdGordonkugel: yeah same issue on r30969
10:35:17n1ssome variant of m200 and i think there was a c100 or something
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10:56:31JdGordonWould anyone like to volanteer to convert plain text to TeX for the manual?
10:57:02JdGordonI'd like to commit my shortcuts patch but it really shld have a manual entry, and I just cant do TeX
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11:00:04Buschelcan anyone point me to an implementation example using the timeout api?
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11:02:20JdGordonBuschel: is this for gui unboost?
11:02:46Buschelyes, I want to see how the timeout api would work for this
11:03:12JdGordonsee my last comment in the tracker, I don't see it as worth any extra effort
11:03:21BuschelI saw your latest comment, but I think we should have this stuff working nice and clean ;)
11:08:33*Buschel needs to play with his sone for a while now ;)
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11:09:30Buschelso, if anyone can point to a code section using api timeout in the meantime
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11:14:47kugelBuschel: microsd insertion/extraction in some sansa sd drivers
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12:36:05Buschelkugel: thanks for the hint, patch updated now
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12:38:00fmlJdGordon: put your plain text manual entry to the FS, give me a couple of days, and I'll have it converted to TeX.
12:38:21JdGordonfml: cool! thanks
12:38:25JdGordonBuschel: yeah, looks good
12:38:36JdGordonthough, sholdnt it make sure it is boosted beore unboosintg?
12:39:02fmlJdGordon: what FS # was it?
12:39:26JdGordonerr, wont that cause the timeout to register every single time the wheel is touched?
12:40:14JdGordonfml: fs#12251 though i havnt done anythng about a manul entry yet
12:40:15fs-bluebothttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12251 user shortcuts in the main menu (patches, new)
12:40:52fmlJdGordon: I'll be notified when you're so far :-)
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13:12:10*JdGordon fixed the last bugs in making the skin engine usable on buflib!
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13:42:42*JdGordon has skin engine running from buflib :)
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13:49:05JdGordon52 files changed, 927 insertions(+), 798 deletions(-) <- only a *little* changeset :p
13:49:11JdGordonthough that does include al the langs
13:53:22gevaertsdesowin: congratulations!
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14:31:02kugeldoes anyone else have an opinion on the OFFSETTYPE macro JdGordon's skin patch introduces?
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14:32:08kugelI find it a very awkward way to tell what a pointer should be (after making the pointer from the offset)
14:41:18gevaertsI'm not too fond of it, but I can live with it
14:41:46kugelas it does nothing, it's equivalent to a comment (which is common practice at least)
14:43:25Buschelkugel: the timeout api implementation for gui boost looks fine for you, too? (FS #8668)
14:43:26fs-bluebothttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8668 battery runtime: experimental gui boost (patches, assigned)
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14:44:51kugelBuschel: yes. make sure timeout api is compiled in (it
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14:48:40gevaertsIt would be nice to find an easy way to have those macros actually keep track of the type given so you can get compiler warnings
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14:49:01kugelgevaerts: I don't think that's possible
14:49:13gevaertsI can't think of a way right now at least
14:49:20kugelthey're all offsets and thus compatible types
14:49:44kugelcould use typedefs to be more verbose, but that won't generate warnings
14:52:27gevaertsWhat I mean is a way to enforce that pointers given to or returned by SKINOFFSETTOPTR and PTRTOSKINOFFSET are compatible with the type given to OFFSETTYPE
14:53:31gevaertsThat's not really was C was designed for though
14:54:24Buschelkugel: thanks again for the new hint. the patch looks like this now -> http://pastie.org/2856728
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15:06:43kugelhm, not sure why builtin icons are borked
15:11:53JdGordonOFFSETTYPE() is not going away, apart from the fact it is needed so the theme editor can still use pointers, I'm standing firm and keeping them
15:15:19gevaertsJdGordon: right, if some code will define SKINOFFSETTOPTR and PTRTOSKINOFFSET as noops, OFFSETTYPE will be needed. You should have made that requirement clearer!
15:16:45gevaertsJdGordon: apart from that, your patch seems a bit broken. There's a hunk for apps/gui/skin_engine/skin_tokens.h that seems to be wrong
15:16:49JdGordonI forgot about the themeeditor needing it till yesterday
15:17:49gevaertsOh, one question: Is the "Don't use the PTRTOSKINOFFSET() around a function call" about the possible double evaluation, or is there more to it?
15:18:16bluebrother^this OFFSETTYPE thing looks really strange.
15:18:27JdGordonskin_tokens.h is really deleted
15:18:46JdGordonand I tihnk thats more because not enough parenthesis are in that macro
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15:20:42[7]JdGordon: so if OFFSETTYPE is actually used for the skin editor, does that mean that the code could be compiled in a way that makes the compiler actually check the types?
15:21:27JdGordonnot for the majority of the important code
15:21:32JdGordonthe best we could do is a runtime check
15:21:48JdGordongive each struct an id and a header
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15:22:10[7]could one run some kind of type-checking build that will not actually work on target but compile the same code and evaluate all these type definitions, just by defining some macros differently for that build?
15:22:27JdGordonoh, yeah, possibly
15:22:56[7]that way we could actually make use of that macro without causing on-target overhead
15:23:16JdGordonif someone wants to add that I'd be fine with it
15:23:59JdGordonactually, no, it probably wouldnt work because things are being explictly type cast
15:24:47JdGordonyes, its not pretty, but these will not live outside of apps/gui/skin_engine (apart from very rare cases)
15:24:56gevaertsWouldn't you get at least a warning about incompatible types then?
15:25:39[7]JdGordon: I think pun_ptr is ((type)((void*)(x))) for a reason
15:26:09[7]we should be able to make it complain by passing some -Wsomething options at least
15:26:34JdGordonI'm open to suggestions, but the macro (or something similar) is staying
15:26:50bluebrother^having a type called skinoffset sounds quite confusing to me. Why not us a _t postfix as C99 inttypes.h does?
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15:27:08JdGordonno reason, easily fixable
15:27:23[7]bluebrother^: and while we're at it, rename DIRENT to something sane :)
15:27:23JdGordonthat coiuld equilly be int or long
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15:27:41*JdGordon is doing test builds
15:27:52JdGordonthey will take hours to upload, but im hoping to fall asleep soon :p
15:28:25[7]JdGordon: are you compiling faster than uploading?
15:28:57[7]even on 3G i'd probably be slow enough on the compilation side to keep the bottleneck there
15:29:14gevaertsTest builds take *ages*
15:29:27JdGordon15min to do a full round last time i did it :)
15:29:33[7]wtf
15:30:26JdGordonmake -j with hot cache and reading/writing to ssd :)
15:30:48[7]dependency generation and genlang alone take more than a minute here, assuming you don't keep the old build dirs for all targets
15:31:16bluebrother^having the build system do test builds and distribute them (maybe to some ~committer/testbuilds folder?) would be nice
15:31:37bluebrother^but having the build system build the manual would be useful too :)
15:31:42JdGordonyes, it would :)
15:31:53[7]and probably easier
15:32:18JdGordonprobably needs git though, easier to tell clients to pull a branch and build it
15:32:30JdGordonspeaking of which... Torne? :)
15:32:50[7]you could as well provide a svn revision number and an URL of a patch file to apply to that revision
15:33:27bluebrother^sounds like gerrit could be useful here :)
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15:59:26bertrikWhat is the policy on usb vendor/products id when run with the rockbox USB stack? just use the same ids as the original firmware?
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16:09:35fdrhi! I've just installed rockbox to a sansa clip+, but now when I plug the player to my computer it does not connect and I get this error:
16:09:38fdrNov 13 16:03:41 maggie kernel: [22895.580120] hub 1-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 3
16:09:43fdrwhat could this be?
16:09:59fdrthx for the help :)
16:10:58CIA-22New commit by bertrik (r30970): Sansa clip zip: correct USB vendor/product id
16:11:28gevaertsfdr: you have to reboot to the original firmware for USB on the clip+
16:12:14fdroh, thx. How do I tell the bootloader which firmwar to use? I tried looking that up in the docs but i can't find it
16:12:53gevaertshttp://download.rockbox.org/daily/manual/rockbox-sansaclipplus/rockbox-buildch3.html#x5-280003.1.3
16:13:02CIA-22r30970 build result: All green
16:13:19gevaertsI think it will also boot the OF if you plug it in when it's switched off
16:16:32fdrgevaerts, you're right, it does. I was puzzling because I was plugging it in while being switched on
16:22:41fdrthanks once more for your help!
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16:50:11[7]kugel: er, didn't you say *fix* typos? :)
16:50:39kugelerr
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16:51:53metaphysI have some question regarding pictureflow plugin. Is ist planned/possible/suitable to have it as a ramplacement for album's browsing in database (I means launched directly unstead of it) and is it planned/possible/suitable to have it in background of the playing file menu (would show cover for last song played, new to come and animate when going to next/prev song??
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16:53:07kugeleverything is possible. but someone needs to implement it :)
16:53:34metaphysyes I know that
16:54:08[7]generally I don't think rockbox's architecture is suited well for that
16:54:28CIA-22r30973 build result: All green
16:58:18[7]it seems to have been designed with other priorities in mind :)
16:58:18metaphysYeah that is what I actually wanting to ask...
16:58:18[7]being a plugin, pictureflow can't easily do anything in the background
16:58:18[7]launching it from the database shouldn't be a big deal though
16:58:18metaphysIs ist just a matter of mapping the plugin launch on some action or is there more work to do ?
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16:58:18[7]you could build an alternate WPS into the pictureflow plugin for the background thing
16:58:18metaphyslike for example in playing mode it assume we can have transparency on the menu to have it working in background
16:58:18[7]or, if you just want to show the albumart of the next thread (assuming it's already buffered), there might be easier solutions that don't involve coverflow at all
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16:58:34metaphysok thanks
16:58:50metaphysI will see if I can do something like that
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17:02:51kugel[7]: s/thread/track/ perhaps?
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17:14:26metaphysanother question
17:15:10metaphysI've made an update on the matttsro font present in the pen&paper font
17:15:58metaphysnow it can handle accentued accent (french, german, some spanish)
17:16:03metaphyshow can i submit it?
17:16:19CIA-22New commit by bertrik (r30974): Sansa clip zip: make more plugins compile (lamp, wormlet, matrix)
17:16:44metaphysit isn't really the good time for what I sax for all themes seems to be broken
17:16:50desowinis FS #12363 good enough to come in?
17:16:51fs-bluebothttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12363 Sandisk Sansa Connect port (patches, unconfirmed)
17:17:29metaphysI meant pen&paper theme
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17:17:40kugeldesowin: is the ports wiki site up-to-date?
17:18:00desowinkugel: ports wiki page is about what's already commited to svn.
17:18:03CIA-22r30974 build result: All green
17:18:45desowinand I cannot commit it as I don't have the rights yet
17:18:56bertrikIMO, a new port doesn't have to be perfect to go into SVN, just make sure it compiles cleanly, without warnings or errors
17:19:29kugeldesowin: which wiki page is that?
17:19:55desowinkugel: TargetStatus, "The following targets have code in SVN but have been judged insufficiently mature to be supported, usually because a critical function (such as sound, display, etc is incomplete or unstable)"
17:20:36desowinhence it implies the code has to be commited before page is updated.
17:21:08kugeldesowin: is there no separate page, with progress status and installation tips?
17:21:43kugeland no, that's not true, the wiki is open to anyone and pages can be created before code is committed
17:21:51desowinkugel: no, I'll split the existing SansaConnect for topics
17:22:28kugelit can be on that page if you like, but we should have some information about the port on the wiki IMO
17:22:34kugel(not just the hardware)
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18:04:41bertrikI'm looking at making plugins work for the sansa clip zip which has a 96x96x16 display
18:05:28bertrikfor the star plugin for example, I just take the largest icon bitmap (40x40) and resize it to the appropriate size and I wonder if this is the proper way to do it, it looks okay.
18:06:27kugelbertrik: downscaling looks better, generally. isnt there a 128x128 target?
18:06:37kugeloh, read that wrong, sorry. should be ok
18:07:25kugelyou need to be careful with images that contain the magic magenta for transparency. you can't resize that well as the magic value changes
18:09:32bertrikyeah, I wonder how to do that properly
18:13:09bertrikremove the magenta, rescale, re-add the magenta, or something like that
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18:42:20dfktbertrik, i think just magenta pixels bordering on other colors are affected, depending on the resizing algorithm
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18:43:02bertrikyes, we have a usb logo with a pinkish shadow :)
18:43:35dfktmaybe two size changes would be a good approach - one with lanczos2/3 for smooth scaling, and one with pixel repeat, where you can take the magenta from and overlay it on the lanczos resized one
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18:45:45dfkti could give you a hand with some images, if you need... i'm quite handy with ProprietarySoftware CS5 ;)
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18:58:44bertrikdfkt, that would be appreciated. It seem that each plugin is a custom job, meaning you have to read the source to understand the layout of the screen, etc.
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19:53:46alienkid10Would somone mind building and uploading Rockbox for the fuze+ I'm on Windows and can't build
19:53:52alienkid10someone
19:54:02metaphysjep
19:54:34metaphyswhere can i send the file?
19:55:12alienkid10just upload it to rapid share or something?
19:55:30alienkid10also please zip up the .sb
19:56:08alienkid10thanks metaphys
19:56:33metaphysi don't have an account there
19:56:42alienkid10metaphys: If I could setup voice without the menu system would that work to figure out if it's rockbox
19:56:52alienkid10ok try um
19:57:05alienkid10ge.tt.
19:57:06metaphysthe zipped file is ç.7
19:57:09alienkid10http://ge.tt/
19:57:17metaphys9,7 mB
19:57:23alienkid10ok
19:57:36alienkid10yeah use ge.tt
19:58:31metaphysI suppose it would except i don't think you can do that :)
19:58:44alienkid10ah
19:58:51metaphysthe power button thing is really simplier
19:58:58alienkid10so just try the power-up power-down test
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20:00:46metaphyswow pretty cool site!
20:00:59alienkid10yeah ge.tt is awesome
20:01:36metaphyshttp://ge.tt/8zAZWu9
20:01:41metaphyshere we go
20:02:15alienkid10oops I also need a rockbox build don't I?
20:02:22alienkid10heh
20:03:00metaphysdon't you still have the last one? the .rockbox folder on the rock of your player?
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20:04:15metaphysI don't think there been any revision regarding fuze+ since then. On ly in the bootloader
20:04:39alienkid10I don't on this computer.
20:05:15alienkid10Last time I was on my mom's laptop and she's using it for work right now
20:05:27metaphysok
20:05:39metaphyswait a little then I have to compile it again
20:05:58alienkid10OK. Thanks!
20:06:29n1salienkid10:
20:06:41n1shttp://build.rockbox.org/data/rockbox-sansafuzeplus.zip
20:06:52n1scurrent build for fuzeplus
20:07:12alienkid10n1s: how did you get that?
20:07:16alienkid10thanks!
20:07:46n1sit's built just like the other current builds, just not linked
20:07:53metaphysoh I'm two late...
20:08:08alienkid10oh
20:08:11alienkid10cool!
20:08:20metaphysdeos it work??
20:08:26n1ssince it's classed as unusable
20:08:39alienkid10ah
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20:08:44metaphysactually it should be unstable by now
20:08:54alienkid10updating
20:09:04metaphyssuspens!!!
20:09:23alienkid10so metaphys after update let it boot to "rockbox" then wait 5secs then power off
20:09:36alienkid10lol
20:09:40metaphysthat's it
20:09:50metaphys??
20:09:53alienkid10I just hope this doesn't destroy my screen
20:10:02alienkid10heh
20:10:29metaphysWe actually still don't know if it is related to the screen
20:10:32alienkid10IT WORKS!
20:10:47alienkid10WHAT EVER THE HECK CHANGED WORKS!
20:11:14metaphysnoway!!! how are we going to debug this if there no bug anymore !!!! :(
20:11:19metaphys:D
20:11:26alienkid10UM
20:11:30alienkid10how do I go up?
20:11:35metaphyslol
20:11:36alienkid10also the backlight is weird
20:11:45metaphysyeah
20:11:49metaphyswait
20:11:49alienkid10it fades to bight then goes out
20:12:02alienkid10but really how do I navigate?
20:12:12metaphysso we still have 2 problem : backlight and touchpad
20:12:28alienkid10this is cool
20:12:28metaphysthe backlight can be turned around
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20:12:52alienkid10text is also really tiny but that's preferece on my pary
20:12:56alienkid10part*
20:12:57metaphysgo to general setting display
20:13:04alienkid10how?
20:13:29alienkid10can you give me button by button instructions?
20:14:03metaphysyeah the touchpad is mainly up down left right like on OF but without any scrolling
20:14:20metaphysthen the back touch and play touch
20:14:28metaphysno
20:14:29alienkid10ok
20:14:47metaphystry to go back to first screen
20:14:56metaphyswith back button
20:15:03metaphyswait
20:15:04alienkid10done
20:15:11alienkid10what is select?
20:15:23alienkid10nvm a very precise center touch
20:15:24metaphysI'll turn my language propertie to english
20:15:53metaphysselect is the touch we are still missing
20:16:32metaphysfrom first screen:
20:17:12metaphysyou should see rockbox at the bottom of the items list
20:17:14alienkid10ok
20:17:19alienkid10at LCD settings
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20:18:14alienkid10ok
20:18:20metaphyssetting > general setting > display > LCD setting
20:18:48metaphysthen turn backlight fade in and fade out off
20:18:56alienkid10done
20:19:26alienkid10still trying to figure out what the enter/select gesture is
20:19:46metaphysusely this is the middle of the cross
20:20:03metaphysbut it doesn't work on every menu
20:20:40metaphys(for example we don't have virtual keyboard for now because you can't select key)
20:20:50metaphysanother tips
20:21:29metaphysin a lot of menu there is a difference between click and holding pressed for 1 or 2 second
20:23:29metaphysyou should also disable the option about asking a confirmation before deleting dynamic playlist for it ask you to press select to confirm...
20:23:42alienkid10I do hae lines going yp the screen really fast
20:23:56alienkid10how?
20:24:31metaphysI don't remember exactly and I don't have power anymore on my device
20:25:06metaphysI guess this is in general setting > playlist option
20:26:02metaphysanyway you can have a look at the rockbox manual for the former fuze for further detail... It really well done
20:27:00alienkid10yep
20:27:02bertrikrockblox is a bit small on the sansa clip zip with 20 lines vertically (charcell targets use 14 lines with a slightly modified scoring)
20:27:48alienkid10how to change vol?
20:28:39metaphyswith volume key? but only in player view
20:29:22alienkid10awesome
20:30:03alienkid10how to get to WPS options and stuff?
20:30:16alienkid10sound is slighty odd copared to OF
20:30:27metaphysisn't it? so I have to go now go night with your new toy!
20:30:34metaphysI didn't noticed that
20:30:43metaphyssound?
20:31:10metaphyswell you have a pop while starting that's all
20:31:17metaphyswhat file format is it?
20:31:23alienkid10MP#
20:31:25alienkid10MP3
20:31:30alienkid10128KBPS
20:31:40alienkid10sounds a bit better on OF
20:31:58alienkid10like how do I get to repeat and shuffle?
20:32:11alienkid10go it
20:32:13alienkid10got it
20:32:15metaphysdidn't you used a preset on OF
20:32:39alienkid10nope just the "normal" one
20:32:43metaphysyeah basicly you have to explore the stuff a little
20:33:23alienkid10kk
20:33:50metaphyswell I don't know I guess you will have to compare it a little closer so that we know what the difference is....
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20:34:02metaphysOk I have to go
20:34:05metaphysby
20:34:05funmanmy fuzev2 screen is dying: http://imgur.com/a/rU1ur
20:34:31alienkid10once the touchpad is sorted this will be amazing
20:35:01alienkid10stero width?
20:35:09alienkid10stereo*
20:35:42alienkid10is the bg of the default theme have lines aross it?
20:35:46alienkid10across*
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20:41:32alienkid10how to apply a theme?
20:43:17alienkid10nvm
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20:44:58bertrikmy clip doesn't properly reboot anymore on a data abort, wonder if that's related to a recent change in CGU_PERI (ROM clock)
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21:27:01bertrikhm, the jewels icons seem to be hand-drawn, can't just resize those for the clip zip I think
21:27:48funmanbertrik: at least the snake plugin for the clip is not drawn on the full screen
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21:32:19bertrikwait, there are already icons suitable for the clip zip, and apparently the layout is adjusted automatically too ! :D
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22:18:12metaphyspamaury: ping!
22:24:44pamaurypong
22:25:28CIA-22New commit by bertrik (r30976): Sansa clip zip: update plugins (jewels, pegbox, rockpaint, star)
22:26:35pamaurymetaphys: ^
22:26:57metaphysok I've got news relating
22:27:05metaphysto the memory bug I have
22:27:27CIA-22r30976 build result: All green
22:27:27pamauryI'm sorry, I had no free time during the week-end, unfortunately
22:27:29metaphysI think it might be rockbox related and not related with the port
22:27:47pamauryinteresting, why would it be ?
22:28:04metaphysas you've seen, things fixed up themselves!!! :D
22:28:27metaphysactually I noticed that it's format related
22:28:48metaphysit occurs when building a new dynamic playlist
22:28:51pamauryyou mean that the bug was due to one codec in particular and that it was fixed ?
22:29:22metaphysno my bug still occurs but seems to be related to format
22:29:38pamaurythen you should post a bug report on FS
22:29:45metaphysanyway if it is so it should happen alos on your device during test
22:30:19pamauryif I have time I'll try beforing going to bad
22:30:21pamaury*bed
22:30:23metaphysyeah i guess i will but I wanted to have your idea upon it before
22:30:52pamauryin any case, post a bug report, we'll close it when it's fixed, whatever the reason
22:31:08metaphysso from a mp3 playlist to some high quality ogg or flac
22:32:21pamauryyou were the one to provide the fixed bootloader to test the second kind of screen ?
22:32:24metaphysbut from one of those high quality album to another no problem!!! Strange insn't ??
22:32:30metaphysyes
22:32:46metaphysit is one I compiled yesteday evening
22:33:07metaphysI dont know what revision it is
22:33:30pamauryI would really like to know what was the problem. Either the buggy init command or the lcd read one
22:33:39pamaurybut I can't explain the lines
22:34:15metaphysthen we will have to catch alienkid again
22:34:32metaphysare you sure the first build was correct?
22:34:42pamaurywhich build ?
22:35:12metaphysthe one ending on a grey screen
22:36:04pamauryI can't be sure, but I don't see what could have gone wrong
22:36:14metaphysI mean couldn't this be a compilation error, or a corrupted file while giving to him or something he didn't do wright
22:36:29metaphysyeah it seem difficult
22:36:39pamauryanyway, I will be afk for a few moments
22:36:53metaphysplus you know for sure he as some other screen device
22:37:09metaphyswell i'm going to bed anyway
22:37:35metaphysI've tartes to have look to the installator file i have to rewrite
22:37:54metaphysit is a bit complicated for mme but stilll interessting
22:38:00metaphysgood night
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23:09:12Falco98is there any way of restricting the directories the Database uses when initializing? on android devices it's particularly annoying since suddenly all the miscellaneous sound files are indexed
23:09:46Falco98i don't use the DB but had to initialize it to keep rb from crashing when i accidentally hit the "database" option in the main menu, and now it's bugging me :-P
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23:54:31JdGordonFalco98: I've got a patch which lets you choose folders, but it isnt hooked up to the db so it doesnt work
23:54:34JdGordonsomeone needs to finish it
23:55:33Falco98gotcha. for myself it's not all that worth it, but in terms of general useability on android i believe it will be important. plus if i ever did use it on my ipod, i'd rather index only my music folder and exclude my audiobooks etc.
23:56:02amiconnThe db shouldn't crash when it's not initialised and you enter it from the menu. It should just tell that it's not initialised and then ask if it should do that
23:56:14amiconnIf you cancel, it should just back out to the main menu

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