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#rockbox log for 2011-11-14

00:00:30amiconn(it is sufficient to place those files in the topmost folder of a whole structure you want to ignore)
00:00:41JdGordonwhich is /
00:00:46JdGordoni.e not doable
00:00:59amiconnWhy / ?
00:01:02JdGordonI have the UI in place to do this very nicely, but couldnt get it to work with the db's init
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00:02:36amiconnPutting a database.ignore into / means it would ignore everything, so the db would be useless
00:03:47gevaertsYou'd put a database.unignore in the one or two places you actually want
00:04:42amiconnYou could also put a database.ignore in all but the one sub-folder of / that you do want
00:05:04JdGordonwhich is worse
00:05:12JdGordonand not doable unless rooted
00:05:38amiconnWell, all but dynamic ones like /dev (if those exist on android), but those don't matter as they don't contain indexable conent
00:05:43JdGordonFS #12330
00:05:44fs-bluebot Add a nice UI to configure database search directories (patches, new)
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01:10:25Falco98amiconn: in the Rasher Android build, updated to the daily build a few days ago, trying to enter Database without it first having been initialized causes the program to hang until force-closed. happened to me 3 or more times due to fat-fingering the menu entry (while aiming at "now playing"). i finally initialized and the problem stopped.
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01:48:18mc2739JdGordon: your latest diff on the skin 2.0 dev mail does not build for touchscreen targets, although your latest update to your github repo did build
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01:55:24JdGordonmc2739: hmm, looks like quite a few builds failed, ok, thanks
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02:51:16dreamlayersWhat is the proper way to switch from one theme to another? If I simply load a new theme, stuff can remain from the old theme, leading to an appearance that's different than on the themes site.
02:51:50JdGordonthat means the second .cfg is missing settings it should be clearning or setting
02:55:20dreamlayersSo, I guess all I can do is clear settings or manually change/remove certain settings?
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03:14:03[Saint]Thought I'd mention it here too as its vaguely rockbox related, and logged. And Ive not been around much. Grab that aging Nano 1st gen out of the junk drawer and send it to Apple for a shiny new (not refurbished) one, massive recall for defective batteries.
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03:24:51dreamlayersJdGordon: Your new test build works well. The only problem I encountered: when I load rockbox_default_icons, they're corrupt.
03:25:22JdGordonyeah, they are broken in svn
03:25:25JdGordonthanks for testing :)
03:27:33dreamlayersYou're welcome! The default icons work on my 5G iPod in r30974.
03:28:15JdGordonah, looks like it was fixed in r30971
03:28:20JdGordonmy build is before that
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05:28:59philipballewHow can I reinstall rockbox onto my ipod. it is having trouble on there now
05:34:38[Saint]Just re-run the installer.
05:35:13[Saint](Assuming its not an ipod classic (6/7g))
05:35:39[Saint]philipballew: ^
05:36:52[Saint]The first thing to try would be to reset the config settings, though.
05:37:47[Saint]Either consult the manual, to find the menu entry. Or just delete /.rockbox/config.cfg
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05:38:58[Saint]Its likely to be a: dodgy config, or b: a trashed filesystem. Its /probably/ not a bad binary.
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06:49:35saratogadoes anyone have example code to access the nth element on the ARM stack?
06:49:53saratogai keep crashing doing it, so i'm guessing i'm not understanding how its laid out in memory
06:52:49JdGordonI assume you've looked at wodz's patch?
06:53:43saratogaJdGordon: which patch?
06:53:48saratogai'm working on libmad
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06:54:59fs-bluebot Add backtrace to the panic screen on ARM (patches, new)
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09:47:41JdGordongreat, android and sdl both work with my skin engine patch too :)
09:47:45JdGordonsoo... itching to commit :p
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10:25:43GodEater_seems there's another NDK update for android - it includes some new ICS media APIs
10:27:21kugelGodEater_: that doesnt help us :)
10:28:10GodEater_I'm sure it doesn't
10:28:21GodEater_but is there a reason we wouldn't update our build chain to it?
10:29:58Zagordoes it make any difference when we don't use those apis?
10:30:06kugelGodEater_: apart from that it's not required and has no gain, no
10:30:16gevaertsGodEater_: unless we actually *use* the new features, updating achieves little more than providing work for build client maintainers
10:30:45GodEater_this assumes that they do nothing with android NDK except build Rockbox though, correct?
10:31:28Zagorright, they are free to update. but we don't require it.
10:31:51GodEater_does our build script check for "NDK >= n" then?
10:32:01GodEater_or does it not check at all?
10:32:15kugelit checks if it's at least r5. higher is assumed to work (i use r6 personally)
10:32:16GodEater_I confess I've not had a chance to check this morning
10:32:26GodEater_that's ok then
10:33:27kugelthere are interesting added APIs in 2.2 and 2.3, but as long as we want to support 2.1 it's not worth looking into
10:33:59kugeland the APIs don't enable something we cant do right now
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11:32:54JdGordonI'm preparing the shortcuts patch for commit, did anyone have any requests for shortcut types before it goes in?
11:34:31JdGordonFS #12251
11:34:32fs-bluebot user shortcuts in the main menu (patches, new)
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12:02:40JdGordonanyone wanna give a read (the shortcuts manual entry) and let me know what is badly worded/missing?
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12:37:32metaphyspamaury: ping!
12:40:08pamaurymetaphys: pong
12:40:19metaphysYesteday while retesting test_codec I met a new buddy:
12:40:23metaphysData abort
12:40:25metaphysat 63E56824
12:40:27metaphysFSR 0x1
12:40:29metaphys(domain 0, fault 1)
12:40:31metaphysaddress 0xE12FFF33
12:41:15metaphysI getting the impression, through not understanding anything that it always get worse and worse
12:41:49metaphyswhere you able to reproduce the bug on your device? with the test_codec
12:42:13metaphysbecause I think it could be also related to my player
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12:43:06metaphysI opened it with no knowledge, made some random short cut on it to try finding recovery mode...
12:43:26metaphysI never had problem with firmware but that is not a proof...
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13:08:43metaphyspamaury: are you still there?
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13:09:56pamauryah rarog is here
13:10:08raroghello. :D
13:10:19rarogdid you reed my feedback in the forums? :)
13:10:33pamauryyes, can you see those "lines" on the screen ?
13:11:05rarogyes, it looks flickering
13:11:27raroglike an old monitor below 75 MHz
13:11:45metaphyshow often is it?
13:12:00metaphyson my screen it occors also but rarely
13:13:19rarogwell, almost everytime
13:14:23metaphysok so it is really related to your 2nd screen
13:14:43rarogyes, seems that alienkid has this problem, too.
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13:15:14rarogit's good to have more than one user with same component combination to verify things
13:15:25pamauryperhaps the second kind of screens requires a higher clock but the OF seems to use the same for both. or perhaps it's related to busy waiting of the screen which I want to change anyway
13:17:01metaphysWell waiting for the installer to work i will have a script uploadind zip build and bootloader so that we don't have to build it every time again
13:17:30metaphysfor everybody
13:17:59rarogmetaphys: always patching the latest firmware version?
13:18:21rarogand using nightlies?
13:19:00metaphysI trying to make it so that it will keep older revision with number on the file
13:19:05pamaurymetaphys: no need for the zipm it's build on every commit here:
13:19:16pamauryonly the bootloader is special
13:19:27metaphyseven better
13:19:38pamauryand we'll do an official release when it's ready
13:19:57metaphysvery well
13:20:17metaphyswhat ist the svn parameter to get revision number?
13:20:22metaphysgrep revision .svn/entries | awk -F\" '{print $2}'
13:20:56metaphysI red this on the net but it seems to me complicated for such a simple thing...
13:21:21pamaurywhy do you want that ?
13:21:22rarogRevision of a specific file?
13:21:36metaphysno of the whole tree
13:22:00rarogsvn info ./directory
13:22:07pamaurysvn info
13:22:33pamauryarf, I wasn't fast enough
13:23:09rarogmetaphys: the grep method works, but like Russian people call it, i works "through the arse". :D
13:23:46rarogpamaury: so what was the solution for 2nd display? mdelay vs. udelay or the one mdelay you moved?
13:24:54pamauryI think it's the lcd init sequence, I can't see why the mdelay vs udelay would change anything
13:25:06metaphysok is there any way to detect modification only in the bootloader tree so that my script does rebuild only on revision that modify it?
13:25:27pamaurynot easily done
13:25:34pamauryappart from running make
13:26:07metaphyswhich is exactly what I want to avoid ;)
13:27:01metaphys on update it show the file updated right? I could grep this with folder of the bootloader ins't it?
13:27:49metaphysno it doen't!
13:28:00metaphysok man svn...
13:28:11pamaurythere are many files involved in the bootloader build
13:28:51metaphysok I guess a daily build will be enaught
13:29:14rarogi just blindly build both one after another, it just takes around 15 minutes at my place, so I just take my cup of tea and it's done
13:29:15metaphysanyway my laptop is not all day conneted so nevermind
13:29:22pamauryonly the days something related to the fuze+ changes
13:30:24rarogyes sure, I'm looking out for your commits. the most other wouldn't change any things heavilly so I'd need the most daily changes on the other parts of rockbox
13:30:27metaphysAnyway I'm checking it every day myself so i guess I can see it
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13:36:16raroghm... what commands for the use of sd cards are missing yet? the ones to read/write files/sectors/whatever?
13:37:17pamaurythe init code, basically it's the same thing as for other targets, like the amsv2, it shouldn't be a problem (just need to check insertion/removal is implement correctly)
13:42:21rarogok, as it looks now I don't have a clue how to help with this, I think I'll have to read more of the amsv2 code for sd cards to get the understanding
13:43:36pamaurydon't worry, I'll give it a try tonight, together with backlight, delay on power off, and perhaps charging
13:44:50rarogoh, this sounds great :D
13:45:22raroga bunch of progress for the port page this would be.
13:46:04rarogthe issue with 2nd display could be corrected even now as it works, the frequence thing is just cosmetic. :D
13:46:13metaphysok I will post all info about bootloader and build install soon
13:46:34metaphysit means there gonna be a bunch of tester coming suddenly
13:46:58rarogwhich is always good
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13:47:39rarogthe big wave will come as soon, as rockboxutility will be able to patch bootloader and install rb automatically
13:48:31metaphysrarog could you have a look at the test_codec plugin and run it through a folder with all the test file? I have a memory but and I would like to know if I'm alone with it....
13:48:33rarogthough unpacking a zip file on target device should never be a problem. :D the first issue is more heavy as always
13:49:29rarogis the test_codec compiled automatically in the tree or is it your personal modification?
13:50:03metaphysarf you need an advanced build with test option activated
13:50:24metaphysI will add this to the uploader folder to
13:50:55rarogah ok, I'll be able to do this this evening, currently I don't have my build system or any microusb cable at hand
13:51:37rarogthen I'll post the results on the forum if you'll not be around here in irc
13:53:00metaphysok thank
13:56:14rarogI'm amazed every time how fast rockbox boots on fuze+ compared to the OF.
14:01:41JdGordonany ideas how to do a new set of main menu screenshots for every target?
14:01:52JdGordondoes the screenshot *really* need to be target specific?
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15:17:47pamaurydesowin: does you sansa connect patch needs to introduce yet another software i2c implementation ?
15:18:29pamaurywe already have a generic one in drivers which should be used if sufficient
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16:33:17desowinpamaury: I haven't seen it, where is it?
16:34:41pamauryfirmware/drivers/i2c-generic.c or something like this
16:35:04pamauryyou just need to implement the pin driving and you're done
16:35:23desowinthe closest one I can see is i2c-telechips.c, is it this?
16:35:30pamauryno, wait
16:35:54pamaurysorry, generic_i2c.c
16:35:59desowinoh, sw_i2c.c
16:36:21pamauryno, sw_i2c is another old one
16:36:24pamaurydon't use it
16:36:29pamauryeven if forced to ;)
16:38:16desowinok, will change to it
16:40:47desowinthere seems to be multiple devices on that bus (I don't have identified them all) - how to handle the bus index? keep global one somewhere in i2c-dm320.c?
16:42:18desowinand how to get it in aic3x.c? just call function like i2c_get_bus_index()?
16:42:54desowinor maybe i2c_get_aic_bus()?
16:44:06desowinhmm, the generic_i2c doesn't seem to support 10-bit addresses, I suspect the RTC needs that (datasheet mentions D0h address)
16:45:50pamaurythe easiest way would be that i2c-dn320.c exports its own i2c functions that are implement using generic_i2c, this way everyone uses i2c-dm320.c and noone knows how it's implemented
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16:47:29pamaurybut indeed, if you need 10-bit addressing you'll either have to implement it in generic_i2c or to implement your own. Hozever, why would address D0h imply 10-bit ?
16:48:34desowinpamaury: it doesn't fit in 7 bit, does it? or am I getting something wrong here
16:49:04desowindunno, but I guess they didn't assume the LSB as "write" in there
16:49:34pamauryI tough it was LSB which gives R/W
16:49:40desowinyes, it is
16:50:01pamauryso 0xD0 is write address and 0xD1 is read
16:50:14desowinI don't know ;-)
16:51:04desowinif it uses 7 bit address, then yeah, sure
16:52:07pamaury10-bit i2c on a shared bus in unlikely since not so many support it but i'm no expert
16:52:09desowinoh well, it turns out they indeed used it that way (just looked at the traces)
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16:52:32desowin(I mean, the read sequences)
16:52:48desowinthat was just an uneducated guess then
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20:16:56pamauryis there a general mechanism to delay power off ? On the fuze+, powering off is so fast that there is a change of reboot because the power button is still hold
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20:20:47pamauryyes but I wanted to know if there was a #define or something
20:20:49pamauryapparently notr
20:29:15funmaniiuc powering off is delayed until the button is released
20:32:30pamauryit's clearly not the case on the fuze+
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20:33:10pamauryperhaps the POWEROFF_BUTTON can include a release flag ?
20:33:57funman if(repeat_count > POWEROFF_COUNT * 10)
20:33:57funman power_off();
20:34:02funmanin firmware/driver/button.c
20:34:09pamaurythat doesn't wait for release
20:34:49funmanincrease POWEROFF_COUNT ?
20:39:05pamauryhum, poweroff_count is not what I want
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20:46:10CIA-22New commit by pamaury (r30978): fuze+: fix backlight to have a real zero
20:46:13CIA-22New commit by pamaury (r30979): imx233/fuze+: add a small delay before powering off to allow the user to release the power button
20:47:50CIA-22r30978 build result: All green
20:48:46CIA-22New commit by pamaury (r30980): imx233: cosmetic changes in adc
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21:38:48alienkid10pamaury: when building can I just use RoLo to load the bootloader-fuzeplus.sansa?
21:39:46pamauryno, bootloader-fuzeplus.sansa is intented to te used when building the bootloader only. Rolo is for loading the main firmware (rockbox.sansa)
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21:43:11alienkid10so to update it if I have rockbox loaded how do i do that? Just like normal?
21:43:42saratogawhat do you mean?
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21:44:31pamauryalienkid10: the bootloader only need to be change very rarely. To update rockbox, just extract at the root of the device
21:44:35alienkid10saratoga: I have RB on my Fuze+ how do I update RB?
21:44:47saratogaunzip it to the player
21:44:53saratoga(this is covered in the manual by the way)
21:45:13alienkid10so pamaury what about the changes you are making with the fuze+ port? This is bootloader right? Not RB?
21:45:33pamaurythis is both
21:46:35alienkid10so I need to build both RB and the boot loader?
21:46:41alienkid10and update both?
21:46:49pamaurydon't touch the bootloader, you don't need to since it's working
21:48:05alienkid10so how do I update and test your changes?
21:48:12saratogausually if your player boots you don't need to update the bootloader
21:50:26alienkid10pamaury: ok so don't touch bootloader. So to compile your changes to test how can I do that? The port page only tells me how to make the boot loader
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21:52:23pamauryyou don't need to, just download it here:
21:52:32pamauryit's built on every commit
21:53:10wodzpamaury: in r30979 comment says "wait one second, useful for the user to stop touching anything" but the code is sleep(HZ/2)
21:53:15saratogaalienkid10: thats at least the third time you've asked that, you realize we have a build system that constantly updates the downloads right?
21:53:59alienkid10saratoga: I'm sorry I'm a bit confused. No I didn't.
21:54:17pamauryoops, you're right the comment is false, doesn't matter
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21:55:00saratogaok but if you're going to ask questions in the new ports thread, please try to read teh replies (,26284.msg186155.html#msg186155)
21:55:23saratogaor else just don't post there
21:56:42wodzpamaury: yeah it is just cosmetic but generally we want comments to match the code, right? :-)
21:57:15pamauryyes but I will not commit something just to say the commit is wrong (one second instead of half of a second)
21:57:23pamaury*commit message
21:58:48wodzpamaury: it is not about commit message - it is about comment in the file itself
21:59:19saratogaon a side note, if anyone is following FS #11759, i'm getting reasonably close to finishign the asm
21:59:19fs-bluebot Rearrange libmad synthesis memory acceses for arm (patches, new)
21:59:40pamauryha, my mistake
22:03:17alienkid10pamaury: I'll try to get a picture of the "scanlines" today or tomorrrow.
22:03:32alienkid10backlight fade works now
22:05:14CIA-22New commit by pamaury (r30981): imx233: use generic code for both channels and delays arbiter code
22:05:15CIA-22New commit by pamaury (r30982): imx233: add automatic battery conversion using delay channel, make 5V a virtual channel since it has a builtin divider ...
22:05:19pamauryI can't make any sense of the battery adc output
22:06:46alienkid10is it possible to save my current config since the virtual keyboard doesn't work?
22:06:50CIA-22r30981 build result: All green
22:07:49CIA-22New commit by pamaury (r30983): imx233: add adc debug screen
22:07:53CIA-22New commit by pamaury (r30984): imx233: fix comment
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22:27:36wodzsomething is not quite right with SansaFuzePlusPort wiki
22:28:27pamaurywhat ?
22:28:29metaphysyeah just fix it
22:28:39metaphysI did crap while editing it
22:28:48metaphyseverything ok now
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22:42:46CIA-22New commit by pamaury (r30986): imx233: remove virtual 5V channel (value doesn't make sense), fix battery conversion (need to trigger delay)
22:43:10pamauryThis time battery readout should work !
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22:43:48pamauryI still don't understand why the 5V power rail readout doesn't make any sense
22:44:27CIA-22r30986 build result: All green
22:45:19CIA-22New commit by pamaury (r30987): imx233: debug raw and mV battery output
22:45:26CIA-22New commit by pamaury (r30988): imx233: implement battery reading using power register (automatically updated & scaled by lradc delay)
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22:54:18saratogadoes anyone want to test FS #12352 on a D2 before I blind commit it?
22:54:19fs-bluebot Charger detection for newer Cowon D2+ (pcf50635 equipped) (patches, unconfirmed)
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22:54:27saratogathe patch looks fine but i hate to commit without at least one person saying it runs ok
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23:08:35low_lightpamaury: I recently got a Philips Vibe with an STMP 3770 in it. sbtoelf can decode the firmware using zero key(s), but I can't seem to make an sb file that is accepted by player.
23:10:51pamauryhow do you know that ?
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23:13:16pamauryhow did you try tp send a file to the player ?
23:13:37low_lightI've tried, among other things, repacking the, just reboots the player
23:14:09pamauryhow did you repack the updater ?
23:14:24pamauryand what did you do with the file ?
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23:16:46low_lightI was trying the instructions you had in the wiki to make the fuze+ bootloader using elftosb.
23:17:26low_lightthen sent it to the player with sbloader
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23:22:36pamaurythe instruction were a bit old, in particular there are alignment constraints you need need to be aware of
23:22:54pamaurycan you send me the file ? I can write the command script for you
23:23:05pamaury(at least try)
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23:25:03low_lightpamaury: its here
23:25:25pamaurylow_light: in fact, no need for the file, pastebin the output of sbtoelf (with -d option)
23:26:23pamaurysbtoelf also has a loopback option for what you want but it won't help you to produce the command file in case you want to experiment with sbtoelf
23:28:49low_lightpamaury: the output is here
23:33:35low_lightpamaury: I tried the loopback option with, but it just reboots to the OF (it should go into recovery mode)
23:33:56pamaurylow_light: which recovery mode ?
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23:36:21low_lightloading gives me a "Gogear Recovery" device, basically an MSC drive to copy the firmware to.
23:39:28pamaurylow_light: and the loopback doesn't ? strange. Perhaps it's because of the boot tag but that's quite unsure. Here is an incomplete command file for what you want:
23:39:52pamauryhum wait
23:39:55pamauryit's normal
23:40:16pamauryphilips guys are really stupid, they made the same mistake with the vibe has two keys: 0 and another one
23:40:56pamaurythe other one is unknown but with hack it's possible to send a file to the device so use it as a encryption/decryption device
23:42:24pamauryI will explain this to you, just after my diner :)
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23:49:55low_lightpamaury: if it's the usbotp option in sbtoelf, I tried that, but libusb timeouts during the transfer.
23:50:28pamaurylow_light: because you first need to upload a specially crafted file
23:50:29low_lightin order to get sbloader to work reliably I had to use the hid input/output report lengths (ie 65 & 49 bytes) like Freescale's sb_loader
23:52:12low_lightI'll wait for the special file then ;)
23:52:31saratogascorche: did Astearon's post get eaten by the spam filter by mistake?
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23:53:46gevaertssaratoga: apparently
23:53:48pamaurylow_light: what is the input/output report length your are talking about
23:53:56rarogpamaury: I'm compiling the recent changes now.
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