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#rockbox log for 2011-11-18

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00:10:24CIA-22New commit by pamaury (r31026): imx233/fuze+: set drive strength of tuner chip enable pin, enable backlight on panic
00:12:09CIA-22r31026 build result: 2 errors, 0 warnings (pamaury committed)
00:18:38pamauryThis is funny, if I boot normally the fm tuner is detected but if I first go into bootloader usb mode and then boot, it won't be detected, the fuze+ is a strange beast
00:18:54SynrGumm. how do i get out of doom on clip+? can't see the menus :)
00:19:13SynrGnone of the "obvious" buttons help
00:19:19pamaurySynrG: power
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00:19:56SynrGneither power nor long power help
00:20:13SynrGi tap power and i get a fuzzy menu, none of the entries are legible
00:20:26SynrGi try each one in succession, pressing select for each. none of these help
00:21:41pamauryrug, why does firmware/export/audio.h exports audio_set_input_source which is defined in apps/audio_path.c ?
00:22:46SynrGit must have a "confirm" dialog after that (also legible)
00:22:51SynrGer, not legible
00:23:15SynrGso the sequence is: power, select the fifth entry (quit), press 'down', select to confirm
00:26:42jhMikeSpamaury: Just speculating here but if it's the SI4700 version then maybe the interface selection isn't done correctly? I don't think it is on any target but the beast.
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00:27:33pamauryjhMikeS: I can read registers by hand so it's not a problem with the i2c interface, but starting the radio using a menu just freeze in audio_set_input_source
00:27:40jhMikeSaudio.h covers things in both levels.
00:28:07pamauryI guess something is wrong in radio_off/start/pause but I can't see what, perhaps I'm missing a clock or something
00:30:01jhMikeSoy, is that old audio event stuff still in use?
00:30:12jhMikeSin audio.h
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00:34:24lovasoaHey! I updated the french translation. If someone wants to see:
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01:02:29pixelmakugel, bluebrother^, other Germans: putting this translation update up for discussion as I'm not entirely happy with each and everything. This one is versus SVN so includes some more phrases:
01:03:41pixelmaand kugel, I know you don't like hyphens but I used some for long combinations of words were I found that it gives a bit of structure or hint which belongs to which
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01:06:17pixelmathe pastebin could also be used in case I forget to commit in time. I'm going to sleep now though
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01:17:53falco99anyone in here relatively familiar with the Fuze at default factory settings?
01:18:36falco99i just got mine and i'm trying to figure out what i can delete from internal storage without bricking it. it seems to have a handful of songs built into memory that aren't viewable as files, which seems weird...
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01:37:28falco99oh, in rockbox there are a few folders beginning with the "#" character, which i can't see in windows
01:37:36falco99that's weird as crap
01:43:08falco99rockbox sees a "##music#" folder that i can't access in windows, as well as a "##port#" directory that i edited to "##port" in rockbox and it now shows up in windows. *scratches head*
01:44:35JdGordonjust leave them... the sansa firmware does interesting stuff
01:50:00falco99would it mess anything up if i removed them (or at least hid them)? the one i renamed was by accident and the sansa firmware still boots ok, so i'm hoping it's no biggie
01:50:24falco99they kinda clutter up the filesystem root when viewed in rockbox
01:50:58falco99also bunches of empty folders there such as "VIDEO", "AUDIOBOOKS", "RECORD", etc etc.
01:53:03falco99as well as a handful of .sys files, though i figure i can leave those since they don't show when viewing "supported" anyway
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04:02:07falco99does formatting a fuze erase the bootloader? or is the RB bootloader flashed to an unformattable area of ROM?
04:04:19falco99(ok i've figured it out, it doesn't, lol)
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05:58:40Falco98is anyone else running rb on an android device? i want to see if anyone can reproduce my error. (i'm on thunderbolt)
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07:22:29kugelpixelma: I think the USB of USB Hide Internal Drive should be kept as prefix (to be in line with USB hid). Ideally the usb settings should be a submenu
07:23:30kugelpixelma: your new translations for keyclick and sleep timer are inconsistent with the existing translations (Tastentöne and Einschlaftimer)
07:25:12kugellastly, I don't really like 3d enhancement translation but that's unrelated to your patch
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07:52:49pixelmakugel: well it's hard to keep the USB at the beginning and make it a meaningful setting and keeping it short (besides the English doesn't sound very good in my ears but I don't know). "Tastentöne" - ok. "Einschlafzeit" is (was) also in the existing translation and "Einschlaftimer" is denglish :\
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08:01:01amiconnDid we set a release date for 3.10 yet?
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08:21:03pixelmamaybe just "USB: Verstecke.." could work and is actually a bit shorter
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08:49:08kugelpixelma: hm, it's einschlafzeit for voice...
08:49:13kugelwhatever, it should be consistent
08:56:35pixelmayeah, agreed - will look into it later once more
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09:54:46Misanthroposis "sleep timer" the time to go on before shutdown?
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09:57:00Misanthroposif that is the case I suggest: Ausschaltzeit
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10:00:26pixelmawell, I believe that is already used for "Idle Poweroff" and I'd like a distinction. One is powering off even if music is playing the other after a certain time of inactivity. But maybe yours is a nice idea too if you could think of something for the aforementioned thing
10:01:38Misanthroposok - Schlummerzeit could be used then
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10:08:09Misanthroposand Idle Poweroff = Leerlaufzeit
10:08:18Misanthroposand Idle Poweroff = Leerlaufauschaltzeit
10:09:00Misanthroposand Idle Poweroff = Leerlaufausschaltzeit
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11:13:40MisanthroposHmm... how about Leerlaufzeitspanne
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13:30:45TheSevenis there anyone with a non-emcore'd ipod classic around?
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15:06:46TheSevenurgh fails to compile the eabi toolchain on oneiric x86
15:07:18TheSeven/bin/bash ./libtool −−tag=CC −−mode=compile gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../../binutils-2.20.1/bfd -I. -I../../binutils-2.20.1/bfd -I../../binutils-2.20.1/bfd/../include -DBINDIR='"/usr/local/bin"' -W -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Werror -U_FORTIFY_SOURCE -MT verilog.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/verilog.Tpo -c -o verilog.lo ../../binutils-2.20.1/bfd/verilog.c
15:07:18TheSevenlibtool: compile: gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../../binutils-2.20.1/bfd -I. -I../../binutils-2.20.1/bfd -I../../binutils-2.20.1/bfd/../include -DBINDIR=\"/usr/local/bin\" -W -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Werror -U_FORTIFY_SOURCE -MT verilog.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/verilog.Tpo -c ../../binutils-2.20.1/bfd/verilog.c -o verilog.o
15:07:18TheSeven../../binutils-2.20.1/bfd/verilog.c: In function ‘verilog_write_section’:
15:07:18DBUGEnqueued KICK TheSeven
15:07:18TheSeven../../binutils-2.20.1/bfd/verilog.c:225:15: error: variable ‘address’ set but not used [-Werror=unused-but-set-variable]
15:07:18TheSevencc1: all warnings being treated as errors
15:07:39TheSevenhow can that happen?
15:10:30Zagor"cc1: all warnings being treated as errors" ?
15:10:33Lalufuit's not mentioned on the command line as far as I can see.
15:10:47Lalufudoes the compiler default to that?
15:11:08Zagoris there some environent variable, or /etc/default/gcc or other nonsense adding it?
15:11:10TheSevencompiling that toolchain did work on the very same box as of a couple of weeks ago
15:11:37TheSevenin fact the toolchain is already installed, i just need to recompile it to grab the right bfd.h/libbfd.a from the binutils dir
15:11:50TheSevensince its installation only a couple of ubuntu security updates were installed
15:12:03Zagorit's the -Werror flag
15:12:30TheSevenyeah but why would that change by itself?
15:12:58Zagorsome environment variable or config gile
15:12:59TheSeventhere is no /etc/default/gcc on that box
15:13:05LalufuIt's possible that a newer gcc has changed what is included in -Wall (which does not actually enable all warnings)
15:13:21TheSevenno occurrence of "Werror" in any environment variable
15:13:24ZagorLalufu: -Werror is in the compile line paste above
15:13:54LalufuZagor: yes, but for a warning to be regarded as an error the warning has to be triggered in the first place.
15:13:57Lalufuhence -Wall
15:14:00Zagormaybe a different version of autotools ?
15:14:31TheSevenwhy would the ubuntu guys do that after a release? this is all weird...
15:15:33Lalufuthe gcc on this particular machine does not enable that warning with -Wall
15:16:36LalufuTheSeven: see the man page for gcc
15:16:50TorneTheSeven: add more −−disable-werror to the configure arguments in the script
15:17:27Tornethis often happens when you build a toolchain using a newer toolchain
15:17:46TheSevenI still don't get why this did work a couple of weeks ago though
15:18:12Tornemaybe not, but still do it
15:18:15Tornefor everyone else's benefit :)
15:21:13LalufuTheSeven: see your update log for the host. I bet there was a gcc update.
15:21:40TheSevenoh, and we should probably fix that one day: mkdir: cannot create directory `build-binutils': File exists (after a failed build)
15:25:13TheSevenbinopts="−−disable-nls −−disable-werror −−disable-werror" doesn't help, that argument just doesn't make it into the failing command
15:25:44TorneIt isn't supposed to
15:25:56Tornerunning configure with −−disable-werror stops it from doing -Werror in the first place
15:27:16Tornehm, we are already doingthat apparently :)
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18:46:09verpsorry if this has been asked a million times but as anyone successfully got rock box running on a zune 80gb model?
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21:46:28Tecanis there some way to make it go into charge mode without holding button every time ?
21:51:06Tecanaha found the patch
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21:57:26Tecanwhere is the sourcecode for rockbox ?
21:58:49Tecanaha svn checkout svn://
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22:04:15TheSevenTecan: which target?
22:04:40TheSevenrecent rockbox versions should detect chargers automatically
22:08:06bluebrotherpixelma: just looked at the german translation. IMO "USB Hide Internal Drive" might be better translated as "Verstecke internen Speicher fuer USB"
22:08:45bluebrotherotherwise I think it's quite ok −− especially the hyphen thing, we really don't need Deppenleerzeichen.
22:09:51Tecanmini 2g
22:11:33TheSevenare you connecting it to a charger or a pc (or something else that's intelligent enough to actually talk with it)
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22:20:30Tecanjust into my sync on ford
22:20:47Tecanevery time i turn truck off or open the door it shuts power to sync off
22:20:58Tecani should just get a cig usb power thingi
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22:23:22Tecanspecially when winter kills my batt
22:31:22low_lightpamaury: I want to use the fuze+ bootloader build as a starting point for my work on the Philips Vibe. How do I construct the db file to use with elftosb?
22:33:26pamaurylow_light: you write a command file and give it to elftosb, let me pastebin an example
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22:34:43low_lightRight, but don't I use files from the OF?
22:34:45pamaurylow_light: this is the "official" command file for the dual boot of the fuze+ basically:
22:35:11pamauryI the case of the fuze+, I reuse some of the OF code to the memory init basically
22:35:29pamauryIn your case, I believe there is only 512KB embedded SRAM so you don't read need the OF
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22:36:19pixelmabluebrother: not Deppenleerzeichen but one might prefer everythinginoneword. Thanks for looking at it though
22:36:24pamauryIf you want to fully understand the booting process, I recommand that you read the boot section of the IMX233 manual and the elftob tool and sb file format documentation which is available with the freescale source code of elftosb on their website
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22:37:36pamaurylow_light: basically the only "subtlety" you want to be aware of is that a "CALL" to an adress has the following prototype: int fn(int arg, int *sec); and if you return 0, boot continues normally, and if you return 1, if will jump to section *sec
22:38:05pixelmawhat's the time and date set for the release (if there is one)? I can't look it up easily from my phone here and committing isn't as easy either
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22:40:25pamaurylow_light: if you are interested, I can give you my preliminary work on the bootloader which doesn't use the full rockbox infrastructure and is much easier to work with
22:41:01pamaury(it should have working usb, that's a good starting point for debugging)
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22:42:29low_lightpamaury: that'd be a great help
22:43:42low_lightis that in your github?
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22:45:05pamaurylow_light: no, I'm uploading it
22:45:23pamauryit's not worth putting it on github since it's an horrible mess :)
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22:50:01pamauryI did not even try to organize it, it contains lots of useless and duplicated stuff
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22:52:26pamauryyou will probably have to change the linker scripts, as you may have noticed, the stmp3700 seems to have all its ram starting at 0
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22:57:22TheLemonManpamaury: working on a 7300 ?
22:58:02pamauryTheLemonMan: low_light is, I think you were working on a stmp3770 ? You might give him the info you know
22:59:50TheLemonManoh sure, i have all the sigmatel sdk headers with all the correct hw addresses
23:00:25low_lightpamaury: recovery_loader and/or lcd_tester is test code?
23:00:34pamaurylow_light: recovery_loader
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23:00:46pamaurylcd_tester is a hack on top of that
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23:01:05pamauryTheLemonMan: can you post them somewhere or give a link or send me them by mail ? I'm interested too
23:01:18pamaurydid you manage to get the datasheet or not ?
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23:01:29pamaurywhat was the device you were/are working on ?
23:02:12TheLemonMani did trial and error using the imx31 datasheet, it matches pretty much for everything
23:02:23TheLemonMani was working on a samsung ypq2
23:02:56pamauryTheLemonMan: there are the headers from the linux patches too, are there some mistakes ?
23:03:12pamaury(patches for stmp3700/80)
23:03:32TheLemonMannop. are from the sdk samsung uses for building the kernel
23:04:16pamauryyou only have the headers, not the sdk itself ?
23:05:11TheLemonManwell, i have all the kernel tree
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23:07:22pamauryis it the same as the linux tree with freescale patches basically or not ?
23:07:29TheLemonMananyway, here are the headers
23:07:58TheLemonMannot really, there are some more retail-specific optimizations
23:08:25TheLemonManand some additional drivers like the touchpad one or the RFS layer for the nand
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23:09:35pamauryTheLemonMan: your device was a stmp3770 right ? Does it have an external dram or only an embedded sram ?
23:11:17TheLemonManyup, but havent checked those details, i used the ram settings left by the bootloader
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23:44:35low_lightpamaury: thanks. I'll see how far I can get over the weekend.
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23:46:05TheSevenhah, got that ipod classic to boot my code from the firmware partition :)
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23:46:58TheSevenso in the long run we'll be able to write a regular rockbox bootloader there without any need to touch the flash, and with dualboot support :)
23:47:13TheSevenbut what's the easiest way to access this hidden firmware partition?
23:48:26pamauryTheSeven: how did you do that ?
23:49:35TheSevenwrote a slightly modified DFU exploit to the OSOS image from within emcore
23:50:54pamauryseems like there are lots of (difficult) exploit in apple code ;)
23:51:26TheSeventhe good news: the payload at 0x800 within the OSOS image will get executed from the start of DRAM, and it isn't even encrypted
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23:51:44TheSeventhe bad news: if the size of the OSOS image changes, the exploit will need to be re-signed
23:52:19TheSeven(which can only be done on ipod classic or ipod nano 3g devices)
23:52:46TheSevenbut if we reserve enough spare space in the image we can just swap payloads without any need to sign things
23:52:58TheSeven(similar to the DFU exploit)
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23:54:03pamauryyour work is impressive, as usual :)
23:54:20TheSevenwell, this one was rather trivial, especially given all these powerful tools that we have today
23:54:54TheSevenit was really just sitting on my todo list waiting to be done, and today I actually had a chance to look into this one
23:55:21TheSevennow someone needs to reverse engineer itunes' firmware update protocol
23:55:45TheSeventhey seem to be using vendor-specific SCSI commands to access the firmware partition

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