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| 00:03:37 | bertrik | pamaury, what do you think of funman's alignment fix for amsv2 usb? |
| 00:04:03 | bertrik | it's probably not going to make things worse ... |
| 00:04:05 | pamaury | it is probably necessary for the amsv2 too, I posted a patch on FS |
| 00:04:16 | pamaury | it can't harm to commit it |
| 00:05:10 | * | gevaerts will investigate the x5 thing tomorrow |
| 00:06:07 | bertrik | pamaury, I can apply, test if it still works the same and commit it, ok? |
| 00:06:15 | pamaury | ok |
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| 00:22:05 | dreamlayers | The handle updating in buflib_buffer_shift is obviously broken, right? It updates handle->alloc as if it's union buflib_data *, but it's actually char *. |
| 00:24:20 | bertrik | USB seems to be working no worse than before (on the clip zip), so I'll commit that change in the next few minutes |
| 00:27:02 | bertrik | Why do we need 64 bytes in the control request buffer anyway? |
| 00:27:19 | bertrik | because DMA may write a bigger packet? |
| 00:29:11 | pamaury | bertrik: iirc, because it's the maximum packet length, so the dma could write up to that amount |
| 00:29:33 | bertrik | but I thought packets could be bigger for high-speed USB |
| 00:29:47 | pamaury | s/packet size/transfer size |
| 00:30:15 | gevaerts | not for control |
| 00:30:19 | bertrik | or is that only for non-control packets? |
| 00:30:22 | bertrik | ah, ok |
| 00:30:31 | gevaerts | IIRC... |
| 00:30:33 | * | gevaerts checks |
| 00:31:18 | gevaerts | yes |
| 00:31:23 | pamaury | but if I recall correctly, the as3525v2 driver handles setup packets differently and will never allow the dma to write more than 8 bytes when pointing it to the setup packet buffer |
| 00:32:35 | pamaury | so actually, if the dma does it's job right, this patch is not needed with the as3525v2 driver (but is with the s3c...) |
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| 00:43:23 | bertrik | pamaury, ok, but I think I'll commit it anyway |
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| 00:45:22 | funman | you could put a mark just after those 8 bytes and check for it, panic if the mark has been changed |
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| 00:55:51 | CIA-22 | New commit by bertrik (r31063): Sansa AMSv2: potential USB fix from FS #11664 by funman: ... |
| 00:57:41 | CIA-22 | r31063 build result: 2 errors, 8 warnings (bertrik committed) |
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| 00:59:17 | bertrik | meh |
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| 01:03:26 | funman | bertrik: is that the 'aligned' ? |
| 01:03:38 | bertrik | I don't know exactly to be honest |
| 01:04:39 | bertrik | yes |
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| 01:05:21 | saratoga | funman: what were you asking me about trying USB with a ramdisk? |
| 01:05:44 | funman | } _ep0_setup_pkt __attribute__((aligned(32))); __attribute__((aligned(32))); |
| 01:06:00 | funman | USB_DEVBSS_ATTR already contains the aligned, and a ';' ?! |
| 01:07:07 | CIA-22 | New commit by funman (r31064): AMSv2: remove stray ; from USB_DEVBSS_ATTR |
| 01:07:09 | funman | beware: might contain red |
| 01:07:32 | funman | saratoga: i wondered if ramdisk over usb worked flawlessly on amsv2 |
| 01:08:47 | CIA-22 | r31064 build result: 2 errors, 0 warnings (funman committed) |
| 01:09:23 | funman | bertrik: the aligned(32) is superfluous |
| 01:10:43 | bertrik | ok, I'll remove it. I can apparently also simplify the struct a bit, using a union { struct, byte[]} instead of struct { union {struct, byte[]}} |
| 01:11:48 | funman | unnamed unions are gcc extensions also, your method would be more standard |
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| 01:22:13 | CIA-22 | New commit by bertrik (r31065): Sansa AMSv2 USB: Simplify union around struct usb_ctrlrequest and remove duplicate alignment attribute |
| 01:23:50 | CIA-22 | r31065 build result: 2 errors, 0 warnings (bertrik committed) |
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| 01:35:15 | JdGordon | Poodlemastah: which backdrop image is loaded when you tinhk it shldnt be? the one set in the setting right? |
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| 01:37:17 | Poodlemastah | Actually, cabbiev2.bmp is ALWAYS buflib'd at least once. |
| 01:38:07 | JdGordon | what is the ufll patchh? |
| 01:38:24 | JdGordon | arg, what is the full path? (the buflib a.lloations page will tell you) |
| 01:38:48 | Poodlemastah | (/.rockbox/backdrops/cabbiev2.bmp) |
| 01:38:52 | Poodlemastah | If I have another backdrop, it is also loaded. This even works for cabbiev2, I currently have two cabbiev2 entries. |
| 01:39:05 | JdGordon | interesting :) |
| 01:39:26 | JdGordon | open a bug, and attach your config.cfg and and theme configs and skins you use |
| 01:39:35 | JdGordon | I wont be able to look at this till later tonight |
| 01:40:04 | JdGordon | backdrop: - in the config should be enough to sotp that |
| 01:40:08 | JdGordon | stop* |
| 01:40:58 | Poodlemastah | When I mean always, I meant always, even with backdrop: - in config, there is still one cabbiev2 entry. |
| 01:41:03 | Poodlemastah | Will post the bugreport now. |
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| 01:54:02 | * | dreamlayers is confused by buflib_compact and trying to figure out what's broken and what isn't. |
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| 02:40:49 | CIA-22 | New commit by dreamlayers (r31066): In buflib_buffer_shift(), properly update handle->alloc values, which are char * and not union buflib data * |
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| 02:42:52 | Louis126 | test |
| 02:43:12 | saratoga | dreamlayers: what did that bug affect? |
| 02:44:34 | Louis126 | hello rockbox support? |
| 02:45:00 | saratoga | Louis126: if you have a question, just ask it |
| 02:45:14 | Louis126 | ok, thanks |
| 02:45:31 | dreamlayers | saratoga: Nothing, because only pictureflow uses that function and it doesn't use allocations when the values are wrong. It moves the buffer back before using the allocations. |
| 02:45:48 | saratoga | ah ok, was wondering how that was never noticed :) |
| 02:46:16 | Louis126 | I don't understand what this instruction means: Open a new terminal, and navigate to the “rbinstall” folder. 3. Run mkamsboot, passing the name of the OF and bootloader files that you downloaded, in addition to a name for the output file. |
| 02:46:45 | saratoga | Louis126: if you're just trying to install rockbox, you don't need to do that |
| 02:47:14 | Louis126 | I have been trying to install it for the last 3 hours |
| 02:47:51 | Louis126 | I have a folder on my desktop labled rbinstall |
| 02:48:07 | Louis126 | i have the rockbox utility |
| 02:48:23 | saratoga | you should use rockbox utility |
| 02:48:30 | saratoga | did you see my post on the forums? |
| 02:48:53 | Louis126 | it keeps giving me erros when I try to download the bootloader |
| 02:49:04 | Louis126 | yes i did |
| 02:49:25 | saratoga | did you try that? |
| 02:50:46 | saratoga | also I saw you were using the Linux/MacOS instructions, which of those two are you running? |
| 02:51:12 | Louis126 | no, i have windows vista |
| 02:51:26 | saratoga | heh, well then maybe the windows instructions would work better :) |
| 02:51:45 | Louis126 | yeah....i'll go back and check your response.....thanks |
| 02:55:04 | Louis126 | i did go back and select the appropriate drive letter for the clip+, and ran complete installation.....i keep receieving errors when I do this |
| 02:55:42 | saratoga | which error? |
| 02:55:59 | Louis126 | should i disconnec the device and see if the installation took yet....how will i know when the installation of rockbox has actually taken place on the device? |
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| 03:13:05 | dreamlayers | Does firmware/buffer.c have any purpose anymore? Nothing uses bufalloc anymore, and it's broken anyways, because allocations would overlap with memory used by core_alloc. |
| 03:19:35 | dreamlayers | I mean buffer_alloc. firmware/buffer.c seems to be a remnant from before, and only the part supporting core_allocator_init() seems to be used. |
| 03:22:43 | Louis126 | the rb utility keeps informing me that there is a "new" version of rb.....but when I try to download it, I get the error that I cannot open the zip file |
| 03:22:52 | Louis126 | the whole thing is just a vicious cycle |
| 03:23:11 | funman | which version do you have? (and which OS) |
| 03:23:46 | Louis126 | v 1.2.10 |
| 03:23:53 | Louis126 | windows vista home basic |
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| 03:27:04 | Louis126 | is 1.2.10 the most up to date version of the rb utility? |
| 03:29:14 | saratoga | no its one version out of date, but it shouldn't matter for your player |
| 03:31:44 | saratoga | well i guess it does add support for patching the newest clip+ firmware, but thats not too important since the older one works just as well |
| 03:33:33 | Louis126 | ok, i'll try the older one instead |
| 03:36:46 | funman | i think 1.2.10 update was broken yes |
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| 03:42:54 | Louis126 | i just ran the rb utility, using the install rb to my device option, and now having safely removed the clip+, do NOT see rb installed on the device..... |
| 03:43:28 | Louis126 | what am i doing wrong |
| 03:44:25 | saratoga | explain what you did in more detail and maybe someone will know |
| 03:47:43 | Louis126 | i have my clip+ selected (letter E) using rb Utility.....then used the "Install RB on your player" option......I chose the current build, and backed it up first. Then it started supposedly installing it on my device −−−− i even noticed the WRITING option going on, on the clip+ for a brief time....the installation ended....I safely removed the clip+ from my laptop, turned it off and then on again, and see NO evicence of RB being in |
| 03:48:05 | saratoga | did you provide it with a firmware file? |
| 03:48:25 | Louis126 | i still don't know how to do that |
| 03:48:41 | saratoga | did it prompt you to do so? |
| 03:48:55 | Louis126 | after which step would it have done so? |
| 03:49:15 | saratoga | when you select install |
| 03:50:07 | Louis126 | i don't think so.....are you saying it should do so after selecting COMPLETE INSTALLATION? |
| 03:50:11 | Louis126 | I can try it again |
| 03:50:55 | saratoga | if you didn't get a prompt you probably hit the wrong option |
| 03:51:12 | Louis126 | ok |
| 03:51:19 | Louis126 | i'll try this again |
| 03:52:40 | saratoga | oh reading more carefully you said above that you just installed the main build |
| 03:52:41 | Louis126 | yeah, its asking for a bin file |
| 03:52:45 | saratoga | hit "complete installation" |
| 03:52:47 | Louis126 | i don't know where to find that |
| 03:52:52 | saratoga | it gives you a link, read that |
| 03:53:23 | saratoga | and if you can't do that, just stick the Sandisk firmware :) |
| 03:53:49 | Louis126 | it gives 3 links.....which one are you referring to |
| 03:55:01 | saratoga | read the text ;) |
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| 04:03:18 | Louis126 | will the sansa forum reading material explain to me where to locate the bin file, or will the manual, or will the sansaAMS? |
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| 07:22:30 | doomedtx | noob ?: just pulled out my Archos Jukebox 20 after many years of not using it. It has flashed version 2.5 on it. I ran the installer and it installed version 3.91 to the device, but when I restart it I still see 2.5. The new abrec file in root gives me a ROLO file length mismatch error. What's the next step? |
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| 07:34:32 | saratoga | doomedtx: did you originally flash rockbox to the players ROM rather then install it on the hard disk? |
| 07:35:03 | doomedtx | as far as I remember, yes...it seems like that was the preferred method in 2003 when i did this (judging by timestamps) |
| 07:35:52 | saratoga | the archos was many years before my time, but i suspect our installer is just installing a build to the local disk |
| 07:36:07 | saratoga | i'm not even sure if its still possible to flash modern versions of rockbox |
| 07:36:50 | doomedtx | that's what it looks like...i'm reading the manual which has info about flashing...hopefully using that and the original firmware from archos I can undo this...otherwise stuck at 2.5 I guess |
| 07:37:14 | saratoga | regarding updating, this might interest you: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,29203.0.html |
| 07:40:33 | saratoga | FWIW we really should have forked archos off a while ago rather then slowly squeezing the binary out of the archos's limited memory |
| 07:40:55 | doomedtx | I'm looking through there now. Perhaps I will leave it at 2.5 since there's not much to be gained that's not already available. I d/led the firmware from Archos and am able to run the original firmware, but Rockbox still owns the device. It seems like way back then there was an option to hold down a button to force the stock loader...will have to play around a bit |
| 07:41:37 | saratoga | some of the early 3.x builds might be good as well |
| 07:41:42 | saratoga | not sure, i don't have that player |
| 07:42:00 | saratoga | you could ask in this channel during the day in Europe and maybe find someone who knows more then i do |
| 07:42:03 | doomedtx | I'm getting ready to sell the device and thought the buyer might appreciate the newest version, but they will have to appreciate the old version if I can't figure this out soon |
| 07:42:35 | saratoga | selling a 10 year old mp3 player :) |
| 07:43:32 | doomedtx | You'd be surprised...several sold recently on eBay for more than I'm asking, and mine was upgraded to a whopping 60GB by replacing the internal HD. That was a ton of space in the early 2000s! |
| 07:44:48 | saratoga | ha |
| 07:46:11 | doomedtx | In any event, I think it's not worth the time to figure out how to re-flash the old rom. I seem to remember either manually creating a ucl file out of the firmware I wanted to use or something like that. The new owner can mess with it if they want. Thanks fir your time |
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| 10:49:15 | JdGordon | lebellium: hi |
| 10:49:58 | lebellium | hi! |
| 10:50:25 | JdGordon | So, I did the "ignore background image" thing but its not in svn yet, i got sidetracked with something much coolerr |
| 10:50:43 | lebellium | really? what? /D |
| 10:50:47 | lebellium | :D |
| 10:51:14 | JdGordon | layering in the skins, so you can draw onto the background, so you could have different images as different viewports backgrounds |
| 10:51:27 | lebellium | awesome |
| 10:51:29 | lebellium | !!! |
| 10:51:35 | JdGordon | the use case im dealing with is putting the AA as the background image, but it doesnt bloody work :/ |
| 10:51:58 | lebellium | you wanted that for the Sansa Zip? |
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| 10:52:17 | JdGordon | I havnt got a zip :) |
| 10:53:06 | lebellium | ah ok because in the OF the album art is in background and I guess dfkt and some others would like to get the AA as background pic |
| 10:53:23 | JdGordon | thats been a general wishlist tihng for ages |
| 10:53:45 | JdGordon | but then using this means you could draw a white rectangle for some viewport on the top layer |
| 10:54:02 | JdGordon | https://plus.google.com/u/0/102969486368377382090/posts/hgxGXwzvPus |
| 10:54:02 | lebellium | anyways, I'm very happy you work on these things. Finally some improvements in the skins engine :D |
| 10:55:14 | lebellium | the screenshot looks promising |
| 10:55:34 | JdGordon | there is a better one somewhere else, that grey line is a bug i havnt been able to track down |
| 10:55:57 | lebellium | I noticed the scrolling text often causes some display bugs |
| 10:57:00 | lebellium | BTW, what players do you own? A Gigabeat? |
| 10:57:04 | JdGordon | what sort of display bugs? |
| 10:57:22 | JdGordon | I've got a dozen players (see my forum sig :p ) my main one atm is ipod video |
| 10:58:12 | lebellium | your forum sig is "Using PMs to annoy devs about bugs/patches is not a good way to have the issue looked at." lol |
| 10:58:27 | JdGordon | indeed |
| 10:59:39 | lebellium | I mean, my R0 theme works well on the R0 but not in the Toshiba Gigabeat UI simulator, I don't know why. So if you own a Gigabeat, maybe you could try my theme on the device |
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| 11:00:07 | JdGordon | I dont, that screenshot is the beat-f because its the same screen size |
| 11:00:35 | lebellium | ah ok |
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| 11:00:51 | lebellium | and any clue why that occurs? |
| 11:01:05 | lebellium | is it because of my complex and ugly code? lol |
| 11:01:09 | JdGordon | R0 is touchscreen? |
| 11:02:21 | lebellium | No, the R0 only has tactile buttons like the Gigabeat and it worked in the UI simulator for my previous theme versions |
| 11:02:54 | JdGordon | not sure, havnt looked into your skin much, I just remember you have alot of code which can be shrunk |
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| 11:03:34 | lebellium | but why does it work on a device and not in the UI simulator. Isn't it the same skins engine? |
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| 11:03:58 | JdGordon | it is, depends on what the exact issue is |
| 11:04:05 | JdGordon | very much sounds like a bug I need to fix |
| 11:04:49 | lebellium | Well I guess the simulator doesn't like when I use too many subimages for the battery indicator lol |
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| 11:07:55 | lebellium | are you the only one working on the skins engine? |
| 11:08:14 | JdGordon | yep |
| 11:08:42 | JdGordon | ah thats right, use %xd(label, %bl) so the battery level instead of speicifng the subimage manually |
| 11:10:27 | CIA-22 | New commit by jdgordon (r31069): Don't load the icons unless show_icons is actually enabled. And respect that setting in the shortcuts menu |
| 11:12:02 | CIA-22 | r31069 build result: 2 errors, 0 warnings (jdgordon committed) |
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| 11:21:32 | lebellium | I'm not sure I understand what you mean. For instance my code is %?bp<%?bc<%t%xd(Ba);%t%xd(Bb)...%t%xd(Bo)|%xd(Bo)>|%?bl<%xd(Bp)|%xd(Bp)|%xd(Bq)...|%xd(BF)|>> |
| 11:21:40 | lebellium | what should I write instead? |
| 11:23:23 | JdGordon | pity saint is offline, he's much better at writing skin code than me... all thouse %xd()'s can be merged into a single one |
| 11:23:45 | JdGordon | %xd(B, %bl) will draw the subimage that %bl is equal to |
| 11:23:47 | JdGordon | sort of |
| 11:25:18 | lebellium | ah ok, I'll try that. Actually my code is just based on the other themes and on the CustomWPS guide... |
| 11:26:00 | JdGordon | yeah, they are outdated |
| 11:26:08 | JdGordon | that shortcut in %xd is relativly new |
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| 11:26:42 | lebellium | and are the new tags written anywhere on the RB website? |
| 11:27:33 | JdGordon | they are all on CustomWPS |
| 11:27:36 | JdGordon | just no exmaples |
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| 11:27:51 | JdGordon | I've been meaning to write up a best practices guide but never can be bothered |
| 11:28:09 | lebellium | Yeah I don't mean new tags but new tricks :) |
| 11:30:24 | lebellium | did you make any theme (for ipod video or other) with these kinds of tricks or "best practices" ? |
| 11:31:24 | JdGordon | no, I've useless at making skins! |
| 11:31:45 | * | JdGordon disblaes the backdrop image and have flashbacks of the awesome rockbox blue background :) |
| 11:35:18 | JdGordon | kugel: if you dont like the empty shortcuts menu.... put something in it :) |
| 11:35:58 | JdGordon | I'd have thought you probably would have the buflib allocs page in there... |
| 11:38:30 | bertrik | Does the wiki recognize FS# as a special token? |
| 11:38:41 | JdGordon | no |
| 11:42:23 | JdGordon | kugel: have you looked into adding rtc wakeup to raaA? |
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| 11:56:54 | kugel | JdGordon: I dislike that it's empty by default |
| 11:57:46 | kugel | no I haven't looked into that |
| 11:58:57 | kugel | otoh, the clock app's alarm can launch apps on alarm so it's sort of already provided by the os |
| 11:59:36 | JdGordon | it can? |
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| 12:01:50 | JdGordon | kugel: can you do me a 1024*768 raaaa build please? |
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| 12:34:48 | Poodlemastah | Was the change from tango_icons* to tango_icons*16x16.bmp intended? Should I update my themes to use the new path? |
| 12:35:53 | JdGordon | err, hat happened to defaulting to grid mode in the wps if a skin isnt loaded? |
| 12:36:33 | bertrik | Any lcd code experts online? I wonder what I need to do or what I can reuse to allow video playback on the clip zip (rendering from yuv) |
| 12:37:48 | JdGordon | arg, the touchscreen is pracfically unusable on the touchpad |
| 12:37:56 | JdGordon | it thinks every press is a scroll :/ |
| 12:37:59 | JdGordon | it being rockbox here |
| 12:38:36 | bertrik | I see many driver implement the lcd_blit_yuv function in C, using an asm function (lcd_write_yuv420_lines) to draw a couple of lines |
| 12:41:03 | bertrik | And this asm function lcd_write_yuv420_lines appears to be target specific, right |
| 12:42:04 | bertrik | As an initial attempt, I could use lcd-as-memframe.S to convert YUV->RGB for a few lines in RAM, then copy it over to the display using SSP |
| 12:43:31 | lebellium | bertrik: is it that important to get video playback on a 96*96 target?! Oo Isn't it anything more useful to implement or improve before? |
| 12:44:17 | bertrik | Why *not* work on this? I just do the stuff I enjoy and I think most of the essentials have been done already |
| 12:44:36 | JdGordon | kugel: why dont the global colours work on android? global_settings.fg/bg_pattern? |
| 12:46:45 | bertrik | lebellium, what stuff do you think needs attention? |
| 12:47:03 | JdGordon | wtf? colours work fine on my phone, not on the touchpad though |
| 12:47:05 | JdGordon | arg |
| 12:48:27 | lebellium | bertrik: personally I only miss a WiseChip colors calibration and RDS without breaking my theme, all the rest seems to be stable enough for a daily use :) |
| 12:49:10 | bertrik | I'm not planning on doing any colors calibration for the WiseChip, we're doing basically the same as the OF now |
| 12:50:08 | CIA-22 | New commit by jdgordon (r31070): Free a handle when we try to load a backdrop file which doesnt exist or cant be loaded |
| 12:51:20 | lebellium | so that means colors are badly calibrated in the OF?! |
| 12:51:35 | CIA-22 | r31070 build result: 2 errors, 0 warnings (jdgordon committed) |
| 12:52:35 | bertrik | I don't know, I don't use the OF and I don't have a player with a wisechip display |
| 12:55:22 | lebellium | but you mean the current colors calibration in RB is the same as in the OF right? |
| 12:57:23 | bertrik | There is no calibration in rockbox, just some formulas to calculate the R,G,B currents for the global brightness level |
| 12:57:31 | bertrik | maybe those need swapping too |
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| 12:58:41 | bertrik | I have been working on an LCD test pattern plugin, maybe that can help to determine if there are errors |
| 12:59:06 | JdGordon | you can play with colour values in the colour chooser setting screen |
| 12:59:08 | bertrik | it's far from done yet |
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| 13:01:24 | lebellium | JdGordon: ah I did not think about that, I'll have a look |
| 13:02:27 | Poodlemastah | Is there any downside to using 16bit bmps instead of 24bit? For images with small amounts of different colors. |
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| 13:06:17 | JdGordon | Poodlemastah: no difference at all |
| 13:06:49 | Poodlemastah | Just thought it would be a way to shave of a a kb or two of ram usage. |
| 13:08:41 | Buschel | bertrik: for the YUV-to-RGB conversion you can use the test image which is shown in the test_fps plugin |
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| 13:44:34 | bertrik | Buschel, I was thinking of just using mpegplayer :) |
| 13:45:36 | bertrik | Thinking about it a bit more: the transfer to the lcd is so slow that it would be a really inefficient to first calculate stuff in RAM, then transfer it to the oled frame buffer. In the time it takes to transfer 1 pixel at 6 MHz SSP, the CPU can do 640 cycles (theoretically) |
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| 13:48:43 | Buschel | are the (known) ways to set the SSP to a higher clock? |
| 13:49:42 | bertrik | yes, but it has to be an even subdivision of the PCLK. And the datasheet of one of the oled controllers in the clip zip says we can't go faster than 100 ns cycle time (= 10 MHz) |
| 13:50:05 | bertrik | PCLK on the AMSv2 targets is currently 24 MHz |
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| 13:51:03 | bertrik | lebellium, what do see as needing calibration on your wisechip display? |
| 13:51:33 | Buschel | ok, then 8 MHz would be possible. +33% |
| 13:51:51 | bertrik | on my visionox display, pure blue looks a bit off and the display changes color a bit when lowering the brightness |
| 13:52:16 | bertrik | Buschel, we can only use even dividers, so no dividing by 3 |
| 13:52:42 | Buschel | I have overseen the "even" |
| 13:53:16 | funman | we can tweak pclk also |
| 13:53:27 | lebellium | bertrik: in my theme the first levels of the volume bar have to be green. With the wisechip they look yellow or greeny. Is the the same on with your screen? Can you try? |
| 13:53:43 | Buschel | finman: doesn't this have impact on the battery runtime? |
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| 14:22:04 | JdGordon | can I bribe anyone to make a set of cabbie images for a 1024*768 port? |
| 14:22:18 | JdGordon | especially the backdrop images |
| 14:24:04 | gevaerts | r30814 |
| 14:24:19 | JdGordon | that was quick |
| 14:24:36 | ukleinek | wodz: do you have ipv6? |
| 14:25:18 | gevaerts | I must admit that the font code wasn't on my mental list of suspects |
| 14:25:31 | JdGordon | you sure thats the break? |
| 14:26:08 | gevaerts | All revisions I tried before that didn't have the issue, and starting from there they all did |
| 14:26:29 | gevaerts | 30000 ok, 30500 ok, 30800 ok, 30808 ok, 30812 ok, 30813 ok, 30814 fail, 30815 fail, 30830 fail, 30861 fail, 30925 fail, 31045 fail |
| 14:26:49 | JdGordon | yay! I didnt break it :) |
| 14:27:11 | gevaerts | But you wanted locking functions, so you're morally responsible ;) |
| 14:27:30 | JdGordon | if we had implicit locks that revision wouldnt exist! |
| 14:28:09 | JdGordon | possibly put a panicf in font_lock if font_id == FONT_UI |
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| 14:28:16 | JdGordon | as a quick check |
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| 14:29:28 | * | gevaerts tells svn to go back to today |
| 14:29:40 | wodz | ukleinek: no I don't |
| 14:29:47 | ukleinek | wodz: hello, I'm just writing an email to you :-) |
| 14:30:12 | ukleinek | wodz: I finally came around to dump the flash of my player |
| 14:31:10 | JdGordon | gevaerts: that still makes no sense... I dont see any reason that would break the quickscreen |
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| 14:31:37 | JdGordon | put some splashf()'s in quickscreen.c and see where it crashes |
| 14:31:39 | gevaerts | JdGordon: the question is, does it break the quickscreen, or does it break restoring the previous screen? |
| 14:31:47 | wodz | ukleinek: nice - I am slowly making progress with rk27xx nand handling |
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| 14:33:38 | JdGordon | gevaerts: you mean it crashes when you exit the qs? |
| 14:34:12 | gevaerts | JdGordon: yes. I didn't see any other freeze than that |
| 14:34:36 | gevaerts | Although the original reporter apparently did, which confuses me |
| 14:34:55 | JdGordon | yeah, he says it crashes on entry |
| 14:35:02 | JdGordon | curious and curiouser |
| 14:35:29 | JdGordon | either way, i doubt the quickscreen is the actual culprit |
| 14:35:35 | gevaerts | Well, maybe I'm not looking 12400 then, but I'm definitely looking for a serious issue :) |
| 14:36:01 | JdGordon | if I had to bet I'd say this is buflib for sure, and the qs just happens to trigger it (dunno how though!) |
| 14:36:09 | JdGordon | you say it needs playback to relably trigger? |
| 14:36:14 | gevaerts | yes |
| 14:36:14 | lebellium | bertrik: did you also notice the "buttons locked" and "buttons unlocked" message remains on the screen between the background and text/pic layers while it should quickly disappear ? |
| 14:36:33 | gevaerts | I'm not sure if it needs playback or the playback *screen* though |
| 14:37:03 | JdGordon | playback in the wps on my video doesnt trigger it, is it a CF only thing? |
| 14:37:18 | gevaerts | As far as I know, it's only been seen on the X5 |
| 14:37:25 | gevaerts | pixelma couldn't reproduce it on the M5 |
| 14:37:52 | ukleinek | wodz: btw, Archos exchanged my bricked player |
| 14:37:54 | JdGordon | does svn with that revision reverted work? |
| 14:38:19 | wodz | ukleinek: cool |
| 14:38:32 | gevaerts | I'll find out later. I'm now adding splashf()s |
| 14:39:36 | wodz | maybe this is the case for 5250 vs 5249? the difference is in iram size |
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| 14:40:00 | * | JdGordon tihnks its time to make the quickscree use the theme icons instead of the 7x8 pixel inbuilt ones |
| 14:40:03 | ukleinek | wodz: I didn't try to apply your tools against it though. |
| 14:41:02 | fml | JdGordon: why did you separate the two handle related statements with "retval=false"? I'd put the two lines as near together as possible. |
| 14:41:12 | dfkt | is there a simple way to make a build without plugins, or to disable plugins in a build? |
| 14:41:47 | JdGordon | fml: feel free to clean it up if you want |
| 14:42:36 | wodz | dfkt: you have to hack configure |
| 14:42:45 | fml | JdGordon: I don't have access to the dev env right now, otherwise I'd do it |
| 14:42:58 | wodz | dfkt: IIRC you have to hange plugins="yes" to plugins="" |
| 14:43:57 | dfkt | wodz, thanks a lot, i'll have a look. i want to build a hack-ish simulator for windows with 480x800 resolution (no matter what target), i edited some player's config.h, but it always crashes at building rockblox |
| 14:44:12 | fml | We could even make core_free to accept a _pointer_ to int. core_free would then set it to -1. I understand thought that that form of the API is not nice. |
| 14:44:48 | JdGordon | fml: oh, I misunderstood what you were saying |
| 14:45:26 | JdGordon | IIUC core_free() returns 0, so I could have done handle = core_free(handle), but I tink it is wrong that 0 is not a valid handle so outright refuse to do that out of stubbornness |
| 14:49:39 | fml | JdGordon: I mean I'd think that form of API were ugly because if it were nice, then the "usual" free would work like that, i.e. accept a pointer to the value rather than the value itself. OK. But then I think it's good to make those changes (performing free and setting the pointer/handle to an invlaid value) as near as possible (ideallly, it would be an atomic op). |
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| 14:52:51 | JdGordon | fml: well c close() returns 0 on success and -1 on failure (which is absurd!) and free() returns void so they arnt very helpful. |
| 14:53:27 | gevaerts | JdGordon: I was wrong. It's not on exit |
| 14:53:41 | JdGordon | I tihnk buflib_free() should return -1, and 0 should be a legal handle, but i've given up on that particular argument |
| 14:53:55 | JdGordon | 0 *should* be an acceptable handle id |
| 14:54:03 | JdGordon | gevaerts: oh? |
| 14:54:46 | JdGordon | fml: passing a pointer in for the handle to alloc/free does make some sense and safegaurds against not setting it correctly also |
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| 14:54:51 | fml | JdGordon: I understand your point of view (and even would agree) but as of now, I'd just put those two lines together. It looks weird if they are separated with an unrelated statement. |
| 14:55:26 | gevaerts | JdGordon: yes. The revisions don't change though |
| 14:55:44 | fml | JdGordon: passing a pointer in would make working with constants (literals) impossible |
| 14:55:53 | gevaerts | I guess I didn't try changing a setting every time, so I didn't notice when exactly it froze |
| 14:56:10 | JdGordon | fml: that's a problem? |
| 14:56:23 | JdGordon | anything which expects a specific id is just plain wrong |
| 14:57:20 | CIA-22 | New commit by jdgordon (r31071): slightly reaarange code to make fml happy :) |
| 14:58:37 | fml | Yes, we don't use literals as args so that wouldn't really be a restriction for us. kugel, others: any thoughts? Use a pointer to the handle in core_free. core_free would set it to an invalid val. |
| 14:58:54 | CIA-22 | r31071 build result: 2 errors, 0 warnings (jdgordon committed) |
| 14:59:36 | JdGordon | can someone commit r31070 to the 3.10 release branch please? |
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| 15:00:21 | JdGordon | fml: core_alloc also or it is just wierd |
| 15:03:21 | JdGordon | also, I tend to think it should stay close the open/creat/close api behaviour (hence my beef with 0 being illegal) |
| 15:03:22 | gevaerts | hm |
| 15:04:44 | gevaerts | JdGordon: it freezes in "left_width = display->getstringsize(s, NULL, NULL);" for the remote |
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| 15:05:19 | JdGordon | thering adds something possibly debuggable! |
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| 15:06:25 | JdGordon | bugger, h300-sim doesnt trigger it |
| 15:08:16 | esalazioneHg | hi. i'm using an ipod nano 2G and rockbox >3.7.1 doesen't work |
| 15:08:49 | esalazioneHg | i've gone to #freemyipod-support to try to solve a problem that seems to be deeper than rockbox-related. |
| 15:09:16 | esalazioneHg | then, after a lot of work, i restored mi iPod with iTunes, now i have firmware 1.1.3 |
| 15:09:16 | JdGordon | esalazioneHg: you need to talk to [7] |
| 15:10:03 | esalazioneHg | if i install the rockbox bootloader with the utility it says " bootloader already existent, overwrite?", then i put rockbox. |
| 15:10:11 | esalazioneHg | doing it manually it gives no error. |
| 15:10:20 | esalazioneHg | the problem is: if the battery goes completely down, a "restore your ipod with itunes"-screen appears. |
| 15:10:27 | esalazioneHg | no problem if the battery goes down with the original firmware. |
| 15:10:27 | gevaerts | JdGordon: any hints on how to debug this further? |
| 15:11:13 | JdGordon | gevaerts: not with jtag or getting it to crash in gdb |
| 15:11:18 | esalazioneHg | [JdGordon] he helped me in the #freemyipod-support channel. now the problem seems to be rockbox-related, so i switched here, as he said |
| 15:11:49 | dfkt | what do i have to change in the source to make the window of an uisimulator larger? (i managed to build a 480x800 simulator, but the window is non-resizeable) |
| 15:12:15 | JdGordon | dfkt: configure it to any size you want? |
| 15:12:22 | dfkt | JdGordon, where? |
| 15:12:29 | gevaerts | dfkt: larger in what sense? Higher resolution or scaled up? |
| 15:12:42 | JdGordon | gevaerts: splash what s is, and possibly display, it makes no sense to crash there |
| 15:13:24 | dfkt | gevaerts, i hacked the d2 source to build with 480x800 instead of normal 320x240 - it builds fine and the simulator seems to display the higher resolution - but the window is too small and cuts off the screen |
| 15:13:30 | dfkt | JdGordon, where do i change it? |
| 15:14:02 | JdGordon | dfkt: configure for a sdl app (target 200) |
| 15:14:18 | dfkt | JdGordon, i'm building it for windows... on linux i use sdl, of course |
| 15:14:30 | dfkt | afaik, there's no way to get the sdl app running on windows |
| 15:14:42 | JdGordon | then not sure what you can do |
| 15:14:50 | JdGordon | uisimulator −−nobackground ? |
| 15:15:09 | dfkt | i looked around the uisimulator folder, but didn't find where the constraints for the windows are |
| 15:16:41 | dfkt | make −−nobackground? |
| 15:20:08 | gevaerts | no, the uisimulator executable |
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| 15:23:28 | dfkt | woohoo! it works, 480x800 uisim for windows - thank you, JdGordon and gevaerts :) |
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| 15:26:29 | gevaerts | JdGordon: it crashes with string "shuffle" for display font 8, so probably not UI_FONT I guess |
| 15:28:01 | gevaerts | Still testing with r30814 by the way |
| 15:28:14 | JdGordon | FONT_UI == 8 |
| 15:28:33 | gevaerts | oh |
| 15:28:43 | JdGordon | so that sounds like the remote font isnt being initialised correctly |
| 15:28:55 | gevaerts | Good, a clue! |
| 15:31:49 | JdGordon | quickscreen_fix_viewports() seems to be using uninitialised viewports! |
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| 15:32:05 | JdGordon | oh woops, no it isnt |
| 15:32:28 | lebellium | JdGordon: Isn't it possible to use conditional album arts in the WPS? I try to make the album art bigger when hold switch is on |
| 15:32:46 | JdGordon | of course it is |
| 15:32:55 | JdGordon | check CustomWPS |
| 15:33:01 | JdGordon | %?C i think |
| 15:33:06 | JdGordon | Cl maybe |
| 15:34:43 | lebellium | Doesn't work |
| 15:35:04 | lebellium | or maybe I can add a label to Cl? |
| 15:35:13 | lebellium | that's not written in the CustomWPS |
| 15:35:54 | JdGordon | %?C is what you want |
| 15:36:13 | JdGordon | all the cabbie skins use it |
| 15:36:18 | gevaerts | I don't think you can change album art size conditionally |
| 15:36:59 | lebellium | for the moment my non-working code is |
| 15:37:01 | lebellium | %?mh<%?C<%Vd(d)|%Vd(b)>|%?C<%Vd(a)|%Vd(b)>> |
| 15:37:03 | lebellium | # Album art |
| 15:37:05 | lebellium | %Vl(a,1,9,50,50,-) |
| 15:37:06 | lebellium | l(0,0,50,50) |
| 15:37:08 | lebellium | d |
| 15:37:10 | lebellium | # |
| 15:37:11 | lebellium | # Album art Hold |
| 15:37:13 | lebellium | %Vl(d,1,9,80,80,-) |
| 15:37:14 | lebellium | l(0,0,80,80) |
| 15:37:16 | gevaerts | Please don't do that! |
| 15:37:16 | lebellium | d |
| 15:37:17 | JdGordon | pastebine |
| 15:37:24 | gevaerts | Use a pastebin for pasting code |
| 15:39:30 | lebellium | http://pastebin.com/b4nCDat8 |
| 15:39:53 | lebellium | that doesn't work |
| 15:40:22 | lebellium | it only takes into account the latest Cl tag, l(0,0,80,80) in this case |
| 15:41:34 | lebellium | May I add a label to the Cl tag ? |
| 15:41:46 | gevaerts | I don't think what you want to do is possible |
| 15:42:19 | lebellium | that's what I thought but JdGordon said the contrary |
| 15:42:56 | gevaerts | Where? |
| 15:43:26 | lebellium | just some posts above |
| 15:43:38 | gevaerts | If you mean the "%?C" bit, he misunderstood you. That's about doing things conditionally based on the availability of album arts |
| 15:44:10 | lebellium | Ok he probably misunderstood |
| 15:44:28 | * | gevaerts thinks he knows what's wrong with the x5 |
| 15:44:50 | lebellium | it's not possible to use 2 different AA sizes in the same WPS :( |
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| 15:56:04 | TheLemonMan | was someone working on a smtp37xx ? |
| 15:57:53 | pamaury | TheLemonMan: what do you mean ? |
| 15:58:36 | TheLemonMan | i remember someone asked me about the hardware registers for that platform |
| 15:59:09 | pamaury | yes, I don't remember his name right now, that was for the philips vibe or something like this |
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| 16:00:40 | TheLemonMan | might be interesting to work together, i dont have much time for coding on my own lately |
| 16:01:36 | pamaury | I'm not sure if it was Zoiah |
| 16:01:58 | CIA-22 | New commit by gevaerts (r31072): Free a handle when we try to load a backdrop file which doesnt exist or cant be loaded (backport of r31070) |
| 16:03:51 | TheLemonMan | i always wanted to start writing the board support code for rockbox but i dont know where to start |
| 16:04:14 | TheLemonMan | and, more important, if it could be merged with the imx board |
| 16:05:26 | pamaury | I guess most of it could, the register even have the same names in many place so only the adress differs and the global logic is same |
| 16:08:36 | TheLemonMan | i also have a driver for yet-another-synaptics-protocol |
| 16:09:58 | pamaury | which protocol ? |
| 16:12:05 | TheLemonMan | its called onetouch |
| 16:13:22 | pamaury | is there a doc for it ? |
| 16:14:09 | TheLemonMan | not that i know, i reversed it from the bootloader |
| 16:16:01 | pamaury | strange, because the RMI doc mention OneTouch product |
| 16:20:41 | chkktri | hmm |
| 16:20:45 | TheLemonMan | oh i see, it uses a silghtly different protocol, mainly different register numbers and it needs an initial configuration to be uploaded at boot |
| 16:21:11 | chkktri | http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SoundCodecNSF maybe we should rewrite thi page as it's outdated as hell |
| 16:21:18 | chkktri | ? |
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| 16:23:49 | ilf | i need to buy a new portable audio player and i want rockbox on it |
| 16:23:59 | ilf | what's the cheapest device available? |
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| 16:24:46 | ilf | many listed devices seem to be not available in stores any more |
| 16:24:54 | CIA-22 | New commit by gevaerts (r31073): glyph_cache_save should be static |
| 16:26:22 | gevaerts | ilf: probably the clip+ |
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| 16:27:22 | CIA-22 | r31073 build result: 2 errors, 0 warnings (gevaerts committed) |
| 16:28:17 | CIA-22 | New commit by gevaerts (r31074): Actually make glyph_cache_save static instead of just claiming it should be |
| 16:29:44 | ilf | gevaerts: thanks, looking good. any experience? |
| 16:29:58 | gevaerts | I don't have a clip+ |
| 16:30:24 | CIA-22 | r31074 build result: 2 errors, 0 warnings (gevaerts committed) |
| 16:31:10 | bertrik | funman found a real cheap sansa clip zip on amazon |
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| 16:32:08 | ilf | bertrik: still unstable :( |
| 16:36:04 | CIA-22 | New commit by gevaerts (r31075): Guard font functions against invalid font ids. These arguably should never be passed, but this prevents freezes. Fixes FS #12400 |
| 16:38:04 | CIA-22 | r31075 build result: 2 errors, 0 warnings (gevaerts committed) |
| 16:39:34 | CIA-22 | New commit by gevaerts (r31076): Backport r31075 to avoid freezes on invalid font ids |
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| 16:44:48 | CIA-22 | New commit by gevaerts (r31077): Bump versions for 3.10RC |
| 16:45:37 | gevaerts | I think I'll try to get some 3.10 RC builds out today |
| 16:46:13 | ilf | and what would the the recommended device to buy currently? |
| 16:47:13 | dfkt | an android phone for rockbox ;) |
| 16:47:45 | * | gevaerts isn't sure if rockbox on android is end-user ready yet |
| 16:47:58 | dfkt | true |
| 16:48:14 | gevaerts | ilf: there are so many different possible requirements that that's *really* hard to answer in general |
| 16:49:08 | ilf | gevaerts: small, long battery. i'd say resume on power on and linux compatible without extra software, but that's rockbox all right :) |
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| 16:51:36 | gevaerts | ilf: the clip+ sounds reasonable then, battery time seems to be around 15 to 16 hours on it |
| 16:52:13 | dfkt | you might be able to find a fuze (not a fuze+) still, and it should give you a bit over 20 hours |
| 16:52:43 | gevaerts | only the fuzev2. The fuzev1 is half of that IIRC |
| 16:52:49 | dfkt | right |
| 16:53:01 | gevaerts | And it's bigger than a clip+ :) |
| 16:53:12 | dfkt | i think the v1 has been gone for about 3 years, so chances are good to find a v2 :) |
| 16:53:27 | dfkt | heh, i still consider the fuze rather small |
| 16:53:32 | * | dfkt glares at his x5l |
| 16:53:48 | ilf | i currently have an ipod shuffle. that's small :) |
| 16:54:27 | ilf | i do have an android smartphone too. but i want an extra audio player for size, price and battery reasons |
| 16:54:37 | ilf | (just a note to the discussion about making rockbox an app) |
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| 17:02:28 | lebellium | bertrik: noob question: why are the plugins not yet included in the SVN? |
| 17:03:16 | bertrik | It's a bit of a all-or-nothing situation, plugins works except for 7 or 8 of them |
| 17:04:04 | lebellium | ah ok |
| 17:04:24 | lebellium | so you wait for all to be working before including them in the SVN right? |
| 17:04:32 | bertrik | yes |
| 17:05:06 | lebellium | and regarding rockboy? |
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| 17:14:27 | metaphys | hello can I map some key to anything else than action present in action.h? Is there for example any chance I could have a keys starting database? or deleting an item in playlist? |
| 17:15:55 | gevaerts | hm, VERSION handling is broken when using bins.pl :\ |
| 17:16:15 | metaphys | grep -R "DATABASE" apps/keymaps don't give any result... |
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| 17:27:22 | CIA-22 | New commit by fredwbauer (r31078): remove stray debugging line |
| 17:29:23 | CIA-22 | r31078 build result: 2 errors, 0 warnings (fredwbauer committed) |
| 17:34:54 | gevaerts | Any language experts around? Is there an easy way to check which strings need backporting? |
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| 17:55:56 | gevaerts | bluebrother: do I remember right that rbutil doesn't really have support for RC builds now? |
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| 18:01:56 | [7] | esalazioneHg: so it does only say "restore using itunes" if the battery goes completely dead, not just if you power it off normally from within rockbox? |
| 18:02:40 | [7] | this sounds like it might not have enough time to bring the FTL into a safe state before it runs out of power... |
| 18:03:01 | [7] | or possibly the flash chip not properly writing data when the voltage is too low |
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| 18:06:24 | btby | Hi, I'm running Rockbox 3.9.1 on Sansa Clip+ and cannot mount / detect it on a desktop computer. When booted into original firmware, however, the player becomes mountable. What can be the cause of this? |
| 18:07:01 | dfkt | usb connection is not yet supported in rockbox |
| 18:08:34 | dfkt | btby, more here: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaAMS#AMSv2_issues_40Fuzev2_44_Clipv2_44_Clip_43_41: |
| 18:08:46 | btby | Oh, alright. Sorry, deeper searching would've yielded this. |
| 18:09:03 | btby | I guess it's not a problem to switch firmware for file updating. |
| 18:09:09 | dfkt | no, it works fine |
| 18:09:55 | btby | I run Linux exclusively, is there any way to apply that patch? |
| 18:10:15 | btby | ".. A patch has been made to correct this problem, but although it seems to work fine with the Linux..." |
| 18:10:46 | dfkt | judging by the comments on the tracker, it might still be hit or miss |
| 18:11:03 | dfkt | if the annoying databas refresh of the original firmware bothers you, that can be fixed |
| 18:12:00 | btby | Somewhere in the settings? |
| 18:12:44 | dfkt | no, with an amusing workaround. :) in rockbox, delete the two folders on the clip+ that start with ##, connect the player, and fill it up so there's less than 100mb free storage |
| 18:13:03 | dfkt | after that, the OF will complain about not enough space and shut down without refreshing |
| 18:13:58 | btby | ha ha, wow! |
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| 18:21:52 | bluebrother | gevaerts: yes |
| 18:23:53 | btby | dfkt: It doesn't refresh! =) Thank you for your help. |
| 18:24:05 | dfkt | btby, you're welcome :) |
| 18:24:20 | dfkt | and you gained ~105mb more space by getting rid of that mtp/drp crap ;) |
| 18:24:24 | dfkt | *drm |
| 18:24:35 | btby | ha ha, good riddance |
| 18:28:56 | esalazioneHg | [7]:yes, it works well if i simply turn off rockbox |
| 18:29:58 | esalazioneHg | [7]: do you remember, my iPod was the one with the strange behavior, the one that almost totally bricks |
| 18:38:18 | [7] | so it just happens if rockbox does shut down because of an empty battery? |
| 18:38:39 | [7] | does it also happen if the apple firmware was running when the battery goes empty? |
| 18:40:59 | CIA-22 | New commit by dreamlayers (r31079): If Rockbox never turns off ATA power, don't compile code for turning it back on. Note that ATA power may still need to be turned on when starting, so ... |
| 18:41:48 | dreamlayers | Does Rockbox shut down cleanly because of an empty battery, or does hardware cut off power? |
| 18:42:43 | [7] | dreamlayers: I suspect it power gets cut off during the attempt to shut down |
| 18:43:01 | CIA-22 | r31079 build result: 2 errors, 0 warnings (dreamlayers committed) |
| 18:43:23 | [7] | -it |
| 18:43:41 | [7] | the HW shutoff threshold is rather low, IIRC 2.9 or 3.0V |
| 18:43:58 | esalazioneHg | [7]: i tested with apple's and it doesn't happen |
| 18:44:36 | dreamlayers | With flash based storage, there shouldn't be a large spike in power usage that crosses the shutoff threshold. |
| 18:45:22 | [7] | my point is that at 3.0V battery voltage the LDO regulator output for the flash will probably be at like 2.7V, which might not allow it to write safely |
| 18:45:45 | esalazioneHg | dreamlayers: i'm not sure... i think while battery is empty and i try to turn on the ipod, it works (apple's logo) for some secs, then the white screen of death ("restore your ipod with itunes") appears |
| 18:45:50 | [7] | so what we're observing might be flash corruption caused by a brownout |
| 18:46:33 | [7] | so this might be as simple as our shutdown threshold being too low |
| 18:46:53 | esalazioneHg | it never happened before our try (you remember what i'm talking about [7]?) |
| 18:48:01 | esalazioneHg | now i've just restored the apple's firmware and fully charged the battery. i've not installed the bootloader yet. have i to try something? |
| 18:48:49 | esalazioneHg | ps: if i plug the ipod while there's the "restore"-screen i can see only /dev/sdc without partition |
| 18:49:19 | [7] | oh, you were the one with the ipod on which apple's boot loader and disk mode failed to reinitialize the FTL? |
| 18:49:32 | esalazioneHg | [7] yep |
| 18:50:05 | [7] | hm, apparently there's something odd going on with your flash chip - not exactly sure what |
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| 19:00:40 | dreamlayers | The PCF50633UM datasheet says minimum voltage drop for the LDO regulators is 250mV. |
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| 19:06:36 | dreamlayers | TH58NVG5D4CTG20 flash Vcc = 3.3V. |
| 19:08:18 | dreamlayers | (PCF50633UM datasheet: http://people.openmoko.org/tony_tu/GTA02/datasheet/PMU/PCF50633UM_6.pdf , flash specs: http://www.elnec.com/device/Toshiba/TH58NVG5D4CTG20+%5BTSOP48%5D/ ) |
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| 20:23:04 | saratoga | IMO we should never let a battery get down to 3.0v anyway, low voltage shutoff should happen around 3.3-3.5v to be safe |
| 20:28:29 | dfkt | is there a way to simulate disc access in the simulator, to activate the virtual LED? |
| 20:29:04 | funman | dfkt: i thought it was automatic |
| 20:29:11 | funman | (already done) |
| 20:29:42 | dfkt | i know i saw it in older simulator builds light up sporadically, but didn't see it in new builds |
| 20:29:49 | funman | uisimulator/common/stubs.c have storage_spin |
| 20:30:21 | dfkt | i assume that doesn't care if it's HDD or flash memory? |
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| 20:34:52 | StephenCarroll__ | gevaerts, regarding the rcs of 3.10 can you check your X5 for the following bug http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12411 |
| 20:35:01 | StephenCarroll__ | or anyone else with an X5 for that matter |
| 20:35:58 | StephenCarroll__ | gotta go brb |
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| 20:48:41 | gevaerts | gah |
| 20:49:04 | gevaerts | USB stack overflow on x5 when trying to make a screenshot with the 3.10 branch :\ |
| 20:51:00 | * | gevaerts knew that releasing right away was a bad idea... |
| 20:53:17 | esalazioneHg | fr[7]: so..is there something i have to test/do? |
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| 20:53:37 | esalazioneHg | [7]: so..is there something i have to test/do? |
| 20:53:50 | gevaerts | kugel: could FS #12411 be related to your alpha channel work? |
| 20:53:51 | fs-bluebot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12411 Album art not displaying correctly on iAudio x5, verk dark (bugs, unconfirmed) |
| 20:55:03 | saratoga | the FAQ link on our front page is rather out of date and probably not all that useful to new users |
| 20:55:31 | saratoga | would anyone mind if I removed it and then simply had port pages to link to the FAQ entries for that target (assuming they exist)? |
| 20:56:23 | saratoga | also "docs index" is probably less useful as a starting point |
| 20:56:33 | saratoga | maybe I should post something to FS and see what people think |
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| 21:14:05 | kugelp | gevaerts: I Di |
| 21:15:05 | kugelp | I didn't change album art displaying. it doesn't use (and doesn't read) alpha information |
| 21:16:01 | kugelp | it doesn't work on jpeg anyways |
| 21:16:57 | kugelp | ah |
| 21:17:07 | kugelp | could be |
| 21:17:32 | pamaury | who knows the keymaps really well ? metaphys had a question regarding the WPS apparently |
| 21:17:45 | kugelp | the resizer has cf specific code |
| 21:18:15 | metaphys | yes I do! |
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| 22:39:12 | webguest670 | I have a problem with my h140. Two weeks ago, worked fine, but in the middle of a track the screen turns off with an error on "I00: at..." |
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| 22:40:10 | webguest670 | Since then I can't make it work. When i press the power on button, the screen turns on but does not show any message |
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| 22:41:29 | webguest670 | Help me please!!! http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?PHPSESSID=qgqan4is0g0nn5bae4tkldugd5&topic=29277.0 |
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| 23:11:09 | gevaerts | webguest670: looks like a hardware problem. It could be the hard drive, but it's hard to say |
| 23:12:28 | JdGordon | gevaerts: not such a huge fan of your fix :/ |
| 23:12:37 | JdGordon | finding the actual cause would be better |
| 23:12:57 | gevaerts | JdGordon: I considered putting it on FS first, but I think we need both the "real" fix and this |
| 23:13:34 | gevaerts | Those functions are (possibly indirectly) accessible from the plugin API, including lua scripts. They should be robust if robustness isn't too expensive I think |
| 23:13:52 | JdGordon | ok |
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| 23:14:24 | gevaerts | But yes, FONT_UI shouldn't appear there |
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| 23:15:18 | gevaerts | Feel free to revert, but please leave the fix in the 3.10 branch unless you have another fix :) |
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| 23:16:26 | webguest670 | Sometimes, the screen displays errors: I00: at 40102314 I00: at 40102004 I00: at 400c2004 |
| 23:17:17 | webguest670 | Today i'm trying to change the battery,... the HD, and power on, with the remote, and the screen shows: Rockbox boot loader, Version: 6, Batt: 3.64 v |
| 23:17:28 | webguest670 | If i press "record" & "power on" buttons, the screens show: "starting original firmware" but stays froze |
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| 23:43:47 | metaphys | Where are action for keymaps defined? I would like to implement a new one (ACTION_WPS_ID3DB (database) |
| 23:43:58 | metaphys | ?? |
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| 23:44:39 | aquarius | hello |
| 23:44:51 | bluebrother | hello |
| 23:45:42 | aquarius | do you know i its possible to install rockbox on this player (archos key)? https://store.archos.com/images/Key_usb_web.gif |
| 23:46:22 | bluebrother | it is not. |
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| 23:46:32 | bluebrother | Rockbox runs on the players listed on the front page. Period. |
| 23:46:34 | aquarius | oh ok :( |
| 23:47:01 | aquarius | the software on that one sucks. you must stop the current music to get to the folders... |
| 23:48:07 | bluebrother | well, then you need to stop playback to browser folders. |
| 23:48:32 | aquarius | jo :/ |
| 23:48:56 | aquarius | thanks |
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| 23:56:44 | metaphys | nobody know anything about action? |
| 23:57:09 | metaphys | those to link with keys in keymaps? |
| 23:57:45 | metaphys | I can't find where they get defined! |
| 23:58:39 | gevaerts | kugelp: ok, I'll do some more bisecting then next week |
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