#rockbox 2011-12-02

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00:27:44	JdGordon	gevaerts: having the build farm build every gerrit patch automagically would be great, not having the possibility of "fix red/yellow" commits would be freeking marvelous
00:28:33	gevaerts	I think it will need some manual intervention. Having it build everything may annoy the people who generously donate spare cycles
00:29:02	gevaerts	But yes, having the option would be good
00:29:11	JdGordon	well not everything, but yeah
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01:12:57	dreamlayers	I made a gcc-4.6.2 -flto Archos Recorder V2 build that works. Binary size decrease 7584, RAM usage decrease 7304.
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01:19:44	dreamlayers	Does anyone see problems when starting a USB connection?
01:20:56	dreamlayers	When I connect my Recorder V2, the USB screen is slow to come up, and disk access from the computer is unreliable for at first.
01:22:18	dreamlayers	With my 5G iPod, I Windows sometimes doesn't connect in high speed mode. It seems to only happen if the disk is spinning when I plug in the cable, but even then, it doesn't always happen.
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01:33:30	orzo	hello
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01:34:09	orzo	my gf wants a rockbox mp3 player. What's the best rockbox device?
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01:35:04	orzo	i use rockbox on a sansa e800 but I want something newer and better
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01:36:57	funman	orzo: check BuyersGuide on the wiki
01:37:55	orzo	thanks
01:39:11	orzo	hm, buyersguide lists only sansa fuse v2 and clip+ as "In Production" ... That doesn't sound right. What's "In Production" mean?
01:40:38	funman	being produced by manufacturers
01:41:07	orzo	sandisk is actually selling rockbox pre installed?
01:41:14	funman	not at all
01:41:57	funman	they are producing the fuzev2 and clip+, or at least selling brand new ones in shops. installing rockbox is still your job
01:41:59	orzo	oh you mean the only rockbox devices currently being manufactured are fuse v2 and clip+ ?
01:42:03	funman	that's it
01:42:16	funman	for other models you'll have to go through second hand
01:43:24	orzo	HM
01:43:28	orzo	well this is an xmas gift
01:43:41	orzo	i think shed prefer a shiny new item
01:43:53	orzo	all other things equal
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01:46:04	funman	doesnt't mean you can't find them but usually in shops you have moer chance to have shiny new models
01:46:31	funman	perhaps second-hand-never-unpacked-last-year-xmas-gifts :)
01:48:30	saratoga	the clip zip is also still being made
01:48:51	saratoga	they just launched it this fall
01:52:47	dreamlayers	Is that table only for stable targets? Clip Zip isn't even in http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/TargetStatus
01:53:21	funman	dreamlayers: yeah, title says that
01:53:30	funman	"Current status of stable targets"
01:54:04	dreamlayers	On TargetStatus, if you scroll down, you'll see "New Platforms Currently Under Development "
01:55:33	funman	clip zip is in between the two :)
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01:56:06	dreamlayers	BuyersGuide doesn't say it's just listing stable targets, but it seems to be limited to those, and that makes sense for a buyer's guide.
01:57:00	orzo	depends on why you're buying
01:57:17	orzo	if you are gungho to contribute to the project...
01:58:17	orzo	hm, are rockbox devs mostly volunteers or is there a lot of paid developers?
01:58:39	funman	exactly 0 paid developers ever, afaik
01:58:56	orzo	awsome
01:58:59	orzo	heheh
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02:02:19	orzo	i was here once and mentioned i needed a bookmark feature for audiobooks
02:02:41	orzo	the next release came out a few days later and it had that feature
02:02:44	orzo	heh
02:19:07	dreamlayers	My Archos Recorder V2 has some ICRC errors in the SMART log from today. I think that means ATA Ultra DMA CRC.
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02:39:16	dreamlayers	Are download stats for releases or current builds available anywhere?
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02:53:36	saratoga	dreamlayers: not directly, but the swedes can tell you the stats if you ask
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02:59:06	CIA-10	New commit by dreamlayers (r31107): Fix FS #11675 : LED resistor calculator does not wait for keypress. Thanks to Michael Chicoine for reporting the bug.
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03:01:23	CIA-10	r31107 build result: 2 errors, 0 warnings (dreamlayers committed)
03:01:26	dreamlayers	saratoga: Can I just ask info at haxx.se?
03:01:42	saratoga	no idea
03:02:40	dreamlayers	svn finished very quickly this time. (no hanging)
03:03:21	funman	dreamlayers: there is a videolan download mirror also i guess, you'll have to ask those on #videolan
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03:09:00	dreamlayers	There's also a mirror of the videolan mirror at http://ftp.thquast.de/mirror/ftp.videolan.net/pub/rockbox/
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03:13:06	funman	dreamlayers: you'll have to ask tomorrow at least because the videolan admin is pissed at me
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03:13:50	dreamlayers	funman: ok, I'm not in a rush, and it's not very important
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03:18:51	dreamlayers	What does "usb 2-3: device not accepting address 13, error -71" mean? It gets the next address after that.
03:20:13	funman	bad things ©
03:22:07	dreamlayers	That might happen only happen if the hard drive on my 5G iPod is spun up. I haven't done enough testing to be sure though. It doesn't cause problems in Linux, but I wonder if it's related to why I don't get a high speed connection sometimes in Windows.
03:25:44	dreamlayers	I mean is already spinning and ready at USB connect = that error, not spinning = no error
03:27:37	dreamlayers	I have to go now; I'll get back to this later. I guess the meaning of -71 can be found in Linux source.
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03:30:25	funman	dreamlayers: https://www.videolan.org/~videolan/rockbox/
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04:47:12	Lenny35543	hi
04:47:56	Lenny35543	can anyone help me to get timestretching working on my sansa v2 fuze?
04:48:07	Lenny35543	I can't figure out how to get it to work after enabling it
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07:54:39	audio-i	anybody here with theme site info editing powers?
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07:57:50	audio-i	@kugel: when you erased my rayboradio theme 320x240, you erased the theme's total count, should be around 17000, please restore it, thanks
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08:09:46	kugel	how do people like this sbs? http://imagebin.org/186591
08:13:14	pixelma	at least the circle around play somehow doesn't suit the theme in my eyes
08:13:26	pixelma	haven't looked very closely though
08:15:07	Zagor	kugel: why both a play and pause button?
08:16:08	kugel	pixelma: it\|s for going to the wps. the wps has a similar icon (with four bars in the circle) to go back to the menu
08:17:15	kugel	the button in the middle toggles play/pause/stop. the one on the right goes to the wps (resuming playback if necessary)
08:17:42	Zagor	why have a button that does the same thing as the menu item?
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08:17:58	kugel	to have it in other places than the main menu
08:18:06	Zagor	my preference is to only have << \|\| >> in the play controls
08:18:29	audio-i	kugel: I'm having trouble updating the theme you hid the other day
08:18:33	kugel	could replace it by albumart if available
08:19:04	kugel	audio-i: I can't bump the download count. I don't even know why it went back to 0 in the first place
08:19:47	audio-i	could you erase the current theme? I'll try with my other email
08:21:49	JdGordon	kugel: good question, i couldnt understand how either!
08:21:53	kugel	I see the original one with 8k download count I think
08:22:31	audio-i	that's not right either, it should be around 17k
08:22:32	kugel	but I dont see the new one :\
08:22:51	audio-i	I just uploaded it
08:23:22	kugel	in the admin panel I mean
08:23:25	kugel	there's only one
08:23:35	kugel	the admin panel is buggy
08:24:08	audio-i	can you see the email address associated to the theme?
08:24:11	kugel	I cant delete it (only the one with 8k downloads), just try to update again
08:24:20	kugel	no. that's another bug
08:24:34	kugel	oh wait, I see it now
08:24:50	kugel	it's a at_gmail.com
08:25:01	audio-i	that's the right one
08:25:18	audio-i	by mistake I uploaded the new one with another email
08:25:48	kugel	that's unfortunate. can you just try updating again?
08:26:14	audio-i	now it won't let me, not with the original email address
08:26:42	audio-i	it's treating the theme I just uploaded as a new one
08:27:17	audio-i	that's why I thought if you could delete the current one, I could update the original one
08:27:33	kugel	heh
08:27:37	kugel	I see the new one now
08:27:48	kugel	it's listed in the ipodvideo themes, but not in "All themes"
08:28:03	audio-i	buggy
08:28:56	saratoga	http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes310
08:28:59	saratoga	feel free to add things!
08:29:07	kugel	audio-i: try now
08:29:23	audio-i	ok
08:29:50	audio-i	the new one is still there though
08:31:51	audio-i	nope, it doesn't let me do the update with the original email
08:32:16	audio-i	because the current one is still there I guess
08:32:32	kugel	I hit delete, and I cant see it in the admin area
08:33:11	audio-i	should it be immediate, or could it take some time?
08:33:38	kugel	I think immediate
08:33:53	kugel	I restored the original one, and the false updated one is gone too
08:33:53	audio-i	ok, it's gone from "all themes" but not from iPod video
08:34:16	kugel	try updating again
08:34:55	audio-i	the one restored is REALLY old
08:35:13	kugel	there is no other one
08:36:06	audio-i	I don't know what happened, but it should be 17k downloads, sec on most downloaded theme
08:36:36	kugel	I'm sorry, I don't know what went wrong
08:36:52	audio-i	could it be that you restored a version from the "old theme site"? the one before the mayor skin code update
08:37:18	kugel	there is no other version
08:37:42	kugel	no, I never clicked that link to the old one
08:38:38	audio-i	is there someone that can help me with this? I don't think it's fair to also lose the download count
08:39:05	audio-i	I don't remember who designed the theme site...
08:39:49	kugel	I'm unable to modify the download count
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08:40:56	audio-i	I don't know what happened, but if you go to the old theme site, the download count was 10k, and that was along time ago
08:41:15	audio-i	it's very frustrating
08:41:23	kugel	yes, I understand that
08:42:12	audio-i	I know your intentions were good, but the theme shouldn't have been deleted in the first place
08:42:29	kugel	it wasnt deleted
08:42:31	kugel	it was hidden
08:42:45	kugel	the difference is that the old state should be able to be restored
08:42:52	kugel	I didn't know of the bugs the admin panel has
08:44:06	audio-i	you think the person who wrote the theme site could restore the download count?
08:44:25	audio-i	would that be possible, I mean?
08:45:25	audio-i	or manually put the value?
08:50:09	kugel	audio-i: did you update again? please do so
08:50:44	kugel	I think only people who have access to the bare database can change it, the author of the theme site is irrelevant
08:52:11	kugel	that might be scorche ?
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08:57:58	audio-i	@kugel: it's behaving really strange, I updated and got me back to 1 download count
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09:00:19	audio-i	I don't know what I'm doing anymore, now there's one theme with my name instead of the theme name
09:00:31	audio-i	an additional one
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09:14:27	kugel	this is really strange
09:15:09	kugel	audio-i: the hotmail one is back
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09:17:48	kugel	this confuses me
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09:24:01	audio-i	kugel: do you think we should try hiding all current ones and re uploading again?
09:24:33	kugel	this is what I have done, but the the site doesnt reflect it
09:25:00	audio-i	at least the one with my name is gone
09:25:38	audio-i	now there's only one, but I'm unsure with email does it correspond to
09:25:53	audio-i	wich email, I mean
09:26:02	audio-i	arr... which
09:26:41	kugel	FS #12423 :'(
09:26:41	fs-bluebot	http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12423 Rockbox access to /.rockbox/fonts after usb_enable(true) (bugs, new)
09:28:39	kugel	audio-i: I cant tell. I cant see the theme displayed on the theme site in the admin panel
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11:57:06	dfkt	Zagor, did you get the ping yesterday? i made the missing images for the manual/themes/build site - http://pastie.org/pastes/2943564/text
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12:02:08	ukleinek	gevaerts: /set mantra irssi is not mutt :-)
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12:37:14	dfkt	kugel, yes i created them, from sandisk's free press photos. i'm afraid i'm not a vector guy, can't help with svg
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13:13:10	Zagor	dfkt: those are weird filenames... what are the names of those models?
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13:22:27	dfkt	Zagor, i added the names - http://pastie.org/2954627
13:22:38	Zagor	thanks
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13:56:27	CIA-10	New commit by zagor (r31108): Added player images.
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14:02:19	dfkt	Zagor, they don't show up on the themes page (build and manual show up)
14:04:03	Zagor	the theme site is a separate system, managed by scorche
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14:58:39	bertrik	this makes me think it's not just the AMSv2 usb driver that is flaky
14:59:08	bertrik	Also I'm getting data aborts when loading themes
14:59:34	dfkt	the same corruption as seen in earlier builds with my theme?
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15:03:04	bertrik	I don't know exactly
15:03:27	bertrik	I get data aborts very frequently when changing from/to lebellium's theme
15:04:40	bertrik	does buflib have any kind of debug or assertion support (like magic markers around memory areas that are checked for corruption)?
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15:10:28	bertrik	and allow the "backlight" to be varied to check for color shifts on OLED displays
15:11:16	bertrik	perhaps an lcd update rect test too
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15:15:47	dfkt	bertrik, if i remember correctly, someone already put a patch for implementing various colors in the flashlight plugin on the tracker - i think it was saint
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16:13:26	lxs-makoto	ive got an interesting one here, rockbox utility on arch linux, all the text in the utility is coming up as squares. any ideas?
16:15:32	gevaerts	lxs-makoto: we've had a report about this (well, on gentoo IIRC) a few days ago. If you happen to be on a 64 bit system, could you try the test build on http://www.alice-dsl.net/dominik.riebeling/rockbox/rbutil/RockboxUtility-r31106-64bit.tar.bz2 ?
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16:16:18	lxs-makoto	i am indeed on 64, i'll five that build a go
16:17:24	lxs-makoto	*give
16:17:53	lxs-makoto	there we go, i can see text now!
16:18:17	gevaerts	Great!
16:18:35	gevaerts	bluebrother: can we have a new (or updated) release soon?
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16:22:52	mc2739	should r31107 be committed to the v3.10 branch?
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16:26:25	gevaerts	mc2739: is that the resistor one?
16:26:31	mc2739	yes
16:30:31	gevaerts	I think it should go in 3.10, yes
16:31:59	lxs-makoto	ugh, cant get this fuze to mount. looks like its my dodgy usb controller chip though.
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16:34:51	CIA-10	New commit by mc2739 (r31109): Backport r31107 - Fix FS #11675 : LED resistor calculator does not wait for keypress.
16:38:06	ilf	i'm about to buy a sansa clip+ and use rockbox for the first time
16:38:33	ilf	can i put music files anywhere on the drive via mass storage device in the original firmware? (i know rockbox can)
16:39:17	ilf	also: will resume track work even if new files are on the drive?
16:40:27	mc2739	ilf: yes, but only with the OF. Rockbox does not yet have working USB for the clip+
16:40:50	evilnick	Yes to the second question too
16:41:18	ilf	mc2739: damn. so how do i put files on there for rockbox?
16:41:28	evilnick	With the OF
16:41:48	mc2739	there is dual boot - boot into the OF to transfer files
16:41:48	evilnick	Reboot into the OF, add files, reboot into rockbox to play those files
16:44:26	ilf	are you sure you're talking about the clip+, not clip zip?
16:44:51	ilf	homepage sais "clip+" is stable port, clip zip does have usb bugs
16:45:05	evilnick	Stable != working USB mode
16:45:12	ilf	ah damn
16:45:37	ilf	is there a cheap device in stores now with usb mode?
16:46:10	mc2739	ilf: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/Main/SansaAMS#AMSv2_issues_40Fuzev2_44_Clipv2_44_Clip_43_41:
16:46:10	evilnick	Although it shouldn't be a dealbreaker since all you need to do is reboot it into the OF, which doesn't take long and doesn't need to be done all that often after the initial 'putting all your music onto it' phase :)
16:47:08	ilf	evilnick: i add podcasts daily
16:47:54	evilnick	Right... and it takes all of a minute or two to reboot.
16:48:34	gevaerts	ilf: if you plug the thing in while switched off, it will boot to the OF, so all you really have to do is shutdown after disconnecting
16:48:55	ilf	ok, that's good
16:49:13	ilf	currently use an ipod shuffle and need to start windows in a virtualbox for fucking itunes
16:49:53	ilf	if gnupod was stil actively maintained, i wouldn't be here :)
16:50:27	gevaerts	You may need to tell the OF to use mass storage after installing rockbox, but that's only once
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16:52:02	ilf	is development for clip+ alive?
16:54:57	evilnick	kugelp: I tried svn Cabbiev2 on the RAaaaaaaaaaaaaa port, but quickly switched to Saint's version just 'cause it's that much better!
16:56:11	kugelp	what does it do better? I can't really use it because the version for my resolution is buggy
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16:56:52	kugelp	anyway, did you notice the volume pop-up? I took that idea from saint's
16:58:00	evilnick	Probably because I'm more used to it, but: I prefer the layout of the navigation buttons, and the fact that the volume popup uses a numerical display as well as the graphical one, the font is nicer
16:59:00	kugelp	Hmm I didn't notice numeric display
16:59:43	kugelp	svn and saint's aren't _that_ different, only the sbs basically
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17:01:09	kugelp	right, the font. but you can use that with the svn cabbie as well (like I do)
17:01:43	evilnick	Svn shows the next track by folder, not by tags - which is kinda annoying
17:02:17	kugelp	evilnick: collecting them and applying then to svn (or finishing saint's) would be nice
17:02:33	kugelp	evilnick: no it doesn't do that
17:04:24	evilnick	Does it cycle through displaying the tags then the folder structure? Because I used rasher's build from today and saw that the svn version of CabbieV2 said the folder name one level up from where the music file was stored was shown as the album for the next track
17:04:37	evilnick	But the music file WAS tagged (FLAC, vorbis comments)
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17:05:30	kugelp	I believe it falls back to folder for improper. if the tags are good it always shows them
17:05:42	kugelp	improper tags*
17:06:10	*	evilnick could try again
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17:31:34	dfkt	scorche, would you mind to add the missing player icons to the themes site? - http://pastie.org/2954627
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17:38:25	lxs-makot0	whoa, ive just crashed
17:38:35	lxs-makot0	whats a prefetch abort?
17:39:10	wodz	wow, are YOU piplined?
17:40:14	wodz	*pipelined
17:40:15	lxs-makot0	screen says "Prefetch abort" "at FFFF7FFE" "FSR 0xFF" "(domain 15, fault 15)"
17:40:39	lxs-makot0	Sansa v1, just checking version should be current release
17:40:41	dreamlayers	A prefetch abort is an attempt to access code at an invalid address. (Not all invalid addresses result in a prefetch abort.)
17:40:53	lxs-makot0	v3.9.
17:41:02	lxs-makot0	*v3.9.1
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18:18:12	dreamlayers	Is there any way to get a backtrace on sh targets?
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18:21:22	dreamlayers	I'm also wondering if opendir_cached("/.rockbox") after usb_core_enable_driver(USB_DRIVER_MASS_STORAGE, true); could mean there is another "filesystem access at start of USB mode" bug, like FS #12423
18:21:23	fs-bluebot	http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12423 Rockbox access to /.rockbox/fonts after usb_enable(true) (bugs, new)
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18:22:22	kugel	dreamlayers: there's some gdb stub, perhaps that still works
18:23:01	dreamlayers	kugel: that would involve opening up my V2 recorder to access the serial pins, right?
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18:24:02	kugel	dreamlayers: I don't know :)
18:34:29	bluebrother	gevaerts: sure. I was planning to do that during the weekend the moment the fix for the issue was confirmed :)
18:34:56	bluebrother	and there's no need for a new release, we can now easily make "build" versions
18:35:05	bluebrother	at least as long as we're using svn ...
18:35:25	*	bluebrother needs to figure how to do the svn export thing using git
18:38:58	bertrik	funman, that was quick! :D
18:39:23	bertrik	funman, do you know what fm chip and what display you have in your zip?
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18:40:08	funman	it could have been longer, the package was sitting outside in front of my door o:
18:40:31	funman	AMSv2 variant 1
18:40:42	funman	SI4700
18:40:53	bertrik	I guess probably all of them are variant 1
18:42:17	bertrik	They explicitly mention si4700 in the diagnosis screen, so I guess they could possibly ship with a different fm chip too (perhaps one without RDS?). Sandisk doesn't seem to actively advertise the RDS feature.
18:42:47	bertrik	Have you run the OF at all yet? :D
18:44:10	funman	to install the bootloader, yes
18:44:51	funman	the lcd type is not written in debug screen, is it?
18:45:12	bertrik	no
18:45:22	bertrik	would be a good thing though
18:48:00	funman	bertrik: can i tellyou the lcd type without recompiling? is there something visible about those different screens?
18:48:21	funman	except the theme being ugly i mean
18:48:30	bertrik	no, you can't really tell from within rockbox
18:48:41	bertrik	you can see it in the OF diagnosis screen
18:49:12	bertrik	I always use a 't' version to flash the clip/clip+/clipzip
18:49:23	funman	ah, no diagnosis for me then
18:51:32	gevaerts	bluebrother: sounds good
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18:58:20	kugelp	bluebrother: "rm -rf .git/" ?
18:58:54	kugelp	svn export only exists because each and every dir has .svn in it
18:59:49	gevaerts	Well, either that or just telling tar or whatever to ignore .git
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19:02:11	funman	you can use git clone −−depth=1 if you want faster and smaller clone
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19:11:37	lorenzo92	kugel: okay, if you update the modded firmware you won't need anything "special" because it's quite impossible I think to brick the device with it ;)
19:11:44	funman	bertrik: wisechip
19:12:54	kugel	damn mtp
19:13:02	bertrik	Oh cool, that one could use some debugging love. Somehow the horizontal position is not handled quite right in lcd_update_rect, so there's a workaround now to always write full rows. Perhaps you can figure out what is wrong and remove the workaround.
19:13:31	lorenzo92	yeah mtp is damn, just use the safe mode to bypass everythinh
19:13:47	lorenzo92	keep pressed the Back key at startup with usb cable inserted ;)
19:14:50	lorenzo92	by the way, an important thing. R0 default application doesn't turn device off completely. So you need to reset it before "reloading" the kernel etc
19:16:39	kugel	\o/
19:17:07	lorenzo92	well it does after 8 hours of "sleep" mode
19:17:19	lorenzo92	more or less...
19:17:32	kugel	didnt need to reset
19:17:43	kugel	I guess it powers off completely after usb
19:17:48	lorenzo92	ah yes indeed
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19:17:53	lorenzo92	after usb yes
19:18:20	bertrik	funman, also I wondered if the balance of R,G,B is right for the wisechip display. I've had to enable BGR mode (instead of RGB) to get the colours right for use with RGB565 bitmaps.
19:18:52	kugel	lorenzo92: okay. what do I need to update?
19:19:03	lebellium	colors are not good for the wisechip display for sure \o/
19:19:45	dfkt	they are no good for the visionox either... no matter if OF or rockbox :p
19:19:50	lorenzo92	kugel: what do you mean? which firmware did you flash?
19:20:02	kugel	lorenzo92: the one in your zip :)
19:20:05	kugel	I mean update rockbox
19:20:37	lorenzo92	ah! just copy it in the root as folder "rockbox" (no mnt/media0 ecc)
19:20:43	lebellium	dfkt: lol but maybe at least with your display green looks green in RB?
19:20:49	lorenzo92	and copy to root the starter script
19:21:09	lorenzo92	press center key at startup et voilà :)
19:21:54	bertrik	lebellium, what does green look like then?
19:22:35	bertrik	too much cyan'y or too yellow'y?
19:22:39	lebellium	bertrik: I already told you several times the first levels of my volume bar should be green and not yellow :)
19:24:05	bertrik	on my visionox display, it goes from yellow-green to a kind of pink
19:24:20	lorenzo92	kugel: in some minutes I'll go away for 20 mins or so, in case lebellium can help you ;)
19:25:22	bertrik	lebellium, if you adjust the background colour in RB, at least the top bar is red, middle is green and bottom is blue, right?
19:25:23	lebellium	bertrik: okay so it looks like the same on both displays. If you look at the volume picture on your computer, you see how different it is
19:25:43	kugel	either we fix buildzip to not include the /mnt/media0 or we bindmount or symlink rockbox into the root
19:26:12	lorenzo92	kugel: yes already done that in the new firmare ;) okay see you later
19:26:25	kugel	great
19:27:10	lebellium	bertrick: right. in the colours settings the colors are right
19:31:37	CIA-10	New commit by funman (r31111): mkamsboot/dualboot: use arm-elf-eabi cross compiler by default ...
19:31:44	CIA-10	New commit by funman (r31112): mkamsboot: make clip zip boot OF when pressing left button ...
19:32:44	lebellium	funman: why changing the keymapping for booting OF?
19:33:36	CIA-10	r31111 build result: 2 errors, 0 warnings (funman committed)
19:33:59	dfkt	i liked the vol- button :/
19:34:45	dfkt	no matter, some day we will have rockbox usb anyways :)
19:35:06	CIA-10	r31112 build result: 2 errors, 0 warnings (funman committed)
19:35:56	funman	dfkt: i didn't touch vol-
19:36:06	dfkt	so both works? nice
19:36:39	funman	yep, but confirming that left button works would be fine btw :)
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19:37:15	dfkt	heh ok... will compile a bootloader after dinner :)
19:37:42	desowin_	that reminds me of porting the TNETV driver
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19:44:38	funman	lebellium: all other sansas use the left key
19:45:11	desowin_	connect uses prev, should I change that to unify?
19:45:16	lebellium	kugel: the R0 is just the best hardware ever for a RB port. Good choice :p
19:45:47	kugel	my phone has better :p
19:46:20	lorenzo92	my pc has even better lol :D
19:46:46	lorenzo92	without joking, how does it look to you?
19:47:10	kugel	the player?
19:47:52	kugel	seems solid
19:52:24	jlbiasini	it seems that fw/rw doesn't work anymore on current build!
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19:55:48	kugel	hmm, which toolchain should we use?
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20:00:46	lorenzo92	I'm using code sourgery one
20:01:07	lorenzo92	on abi forum, lovasoa tried another one (or two) but without luck
20:01:43	kugel	which of them?
20:01:54	funman	/media/dev/rockbox/apps/plugins/credits.c:27:71: error: credits.raw: No such file or directory
20:01:58	kugel	(they're in 3 flavors, one for each libc)
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20:04:18	lorenzo92	kugel: no idea sorry :( I need to check the forum
20:04:27	kugel	lorenzo92: is storage plenty fast or should I avoid copying the microsd to the internal memory?
20:04:59	lorenzo92	it's fast don't worry ;)
20:05:17	lorenzo92	yeah this device is pretty nice :)
20:05:30	kugel	indeed. that 5GB went quickly
20:06:27	kugel	no that didnt work :)
20:06:33	lorenzo92	uhm never tried such big files...but you need also to consider cache
20:06:41	lorenzo92	didn't worked? !
20:06:43	lorenzo92	strange uhm uhm
20:07:14	kugel	copying died early and the microsd was unmounted
20:07:14	lorenzo92	you should try to write a script to copy it and see
20:07:26	lorenzo92	ah! unmounted
20:07:29	lorenzo92	ok indeed
20:07:40	lorenzo92	you need to place it in the slot before turn device onj
20:07:56	kugel	I mean it was unmounted during copying
20:08:36	lorenzo92	ah! strange
20:08:48	lorenzo92	any guess?
20:09:03	kugel	no. need dmesg.rock
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20:10:47	lorenzo92	dmesg.rock?
20:10:54	kugel	a plugin to print dmesg :)
20:11:04	lorenzo92	unfortunately samsung disabled dmseg on original kernel :(:(
20:11:05	kugel	a hypothetical
20:11:41	lorenzo92	ah! consider to use scripts ;)
20:11:55	lorenzo92	my firmware implements that: create a folder scripts and a subfolder log
20:12:11	lorenzo92	then place in this folder your scripts, they will run at startup :D
20:14:33	lorenzo92	I always forget if "scripts" or "script" ufff :)
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20:19:50	lorenzo92	kugel: this evening I probably work again on the radio module (si470x.ko)
20:20:05	lorenzo92	unfortunately there is no ioctl(s) for register direct access
20:20:46	kugel	okay
20:20:53	lorenzo92	but analazying with IDA seems not to be so diffcult to recreate a similar one (I have no knowledge )
20:21:02	kugel	I'll skim through the patch and see what can be improved or committed
20:21:12	lorenzo92	great
20:21:20	lorenzo92	I placed some NOTE and TODO ;)
20:21:44	kugel	considering our native drivers for si470x tuners it can't be that complicated
20:22:12	lorenzo92	yes I know, but since we don't have register access I need to redefine some options so use ioctl
20:23:40	lorenzo92	ah btw, as you probably noticed I'm still quite a newbie in C :)
20:23:55	lorenzo92	but I wanted to port RB, so why not? :p
20:23:55	kugel	havent looked closely yet :p
20:24:07	lorenzo92	don't worry ;)
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20:24:33	lebellium	kugel: if you manage to get the battery indicator properly working I give you a candy :D
20:24:41	kugel	SDL is still used right?
20:25:06	kugel	but only for audio (except volume)?
20:25:15	bertrik	lebellium, does white look white on your display? and does gray look gray? or does it have a colour tint?
20:27:43	bertrik	meh, the git mirror appears to be out of date
20:29:16	lorenzo92	yes SDL only for audio, but I'm quite sure that if we would use ALSA directly, more performance + battery life
20:29:48	lorenzo92	mgue wanted to work on that, need to ask him :)
20:30:15	kugel	bertrik: update your .git/config http://pastie.org/2956418
20:30:52	lebellium	bertrik: white doesn't really look white to me, it could be more white but maybe it's just due to the poor screen quality. Gray looks gray though.
20:31:33	kugel	lorenzo92: well, getting of the sdl dependency would be great, as you need to compile it just for rockbox
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20:32:13	lorenzo92	yes sure...SDL is pretty tough I guess! Before removing it on the display part, rockbox was heavy lol
20:32:42	kugel	speaking of which, do you know more about the glitches?
20:32:55	kugel	the background is sometimes dran differently
20:33:33	kugel	it looks like some dithering is going on
20:33:57	lorenzo92	uhm yep. I guess you refer to the Auto Contrast function of our display
20:33:59	lorenzo92	;)
20:34:19	bertrik	kugel, I just updated that section, but git pull still doesn't see the recent commits by funman
20:34:38	kugel	bertrik: try git fetch −−all
20:34:59	lorenzo92	for glitches, I mean we need to improve the drawing of single points/lines of pixels. Right now is buggy since I cannot figure out in my mind correctly how both arrays are physically :)
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20:35:24	lorenzo92	but if you take a look at src this should be written
20:35:32	bertrik	hm, still the same
20:35:36	kugel	bertrik: works for me
20:35:51	bertrik	git fetch −−all is done very quickly
20:36:12	kugel	lorenzo92: it's row after row (so the first 320 pixel, then directly after the second 320, etc)
20:36:16	kugel	240*
20:37:01	lorenzo92	uhm okay...but to catch a single pixel is like, array[200][200]?
20:37:12	lorenzo92	anyway now I look for the radio ;)
20:37:41	mc2739	bertrik: I am seeing the same as you - last update I got was r31106
20:38:05	kugel	lorenzo92: we have the LCD_ADDR() macro for those who can't wrap their heads around this :)
20:38:32	lorenzo92	ah! hehe indeed you see, we needed someone expert :D
20:38:59	bertrik	git svn rebase gets me up-to-date
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20:42:29	kugel	heh
20:42:42	kugel	lorenzo92: I still have my alsa sound branch
20:42:50	*	kugel gets that up-to-date
20:43:50	lorenzo92	kugel: interesting. Maybe this will be a great deal ;)
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21:06:45	lorenzo92	still nothing for frequency set ioctl, don't understand how's implemented
21:06:52	lorenzo92	but at least get freq and scan are working
21:06:58	lorenzo92	maybe also get RSSI is working
21:07:00	lorenzo92	not sure
21:07:44	funman	bertrik: how about enabling all plugins, even with ugly graphics?
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21:21:08	funman	bertrik: http://pastie.org/2956647
21:22:31	bertrik	Oh, that fixes the rest of the plugins?
21:23:05	bertrik	solitaire and blackjack cards will be too big, right?
21:23:11	funman	more or less
21:23:30	funman	solitaire looks playable at least
21:24:06	dfkt	need some help with resizing graphics?
21:24:07	bertrik	I made a 13 px wide solitaire card deck, but found out it's still 2 pixels too big ... :(
21:24:09	funman	cards are ok for blackjack though
21:24:33	bertrik	s/made/resized/
21:24:56	bertrik	plain resizing often looks ugly if the graphics are very small
21:25:24	funman	indeed
21:26:10	funman	bertrik: ok for committing this before we get nicer graphics?
21:26:33	bertrik	yes (but I haven't tried it)
21:27:24	bertrik	I think I prefer plugins with some having ugly graphics than keep delaying until it's perfect
21:28:22	CIA-10	New commit by funman (r31113): Sansa Clip Zip: enable all plugins ...
21:28:30	bertrik	funny how I got doom working quicker than having tetris work :)
21:28:43	funman	:)
21:30:14	CIA-10	r31113 build result: 2 errors, 0 warnings (funman committed)
21:33:17	desowin_	well, sansa connect's runtime actually is over 8 hours, but due to lack of RTC support in rockbox yet it counts the time wrongly (7h 39min)
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21:46:07	funman	bertrik: did you have a reference picture to check RGB ?
21:46:51	kugel	lorenzo92: success :)
21:48:05	fuzzix	Hey all, wondering if anyone has a partition table image for an 80G ipod classic, there doesn't appear to be one on this page: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IpodConversionToFAT32
21:48:11	fuzzix	Much obliged
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21:51:41	lorenzo92	kugel: success what sorry? :D
21:52:07	kugel	I brought my alsa branch back to life
21:52:18	kugel	even still works after rebasing 7k revisions :p
21:52:40	kugel	so yea, you cannot control volume with alsa, right?
21:52:56	lorenzo92	great! nono throug alsa is incomplete and buggy
21:53:01	fuzzix	http://ipl.derpapst.eu/wiki/Restore_without_iTunes#80GB - there's partition table info here but I believe the 80GB listed is the vide
21:53:02	lorenzo92	only samsung could do that :S
21:53:05	fuzzix	*video
21:53:17	lorenzo92	but really is alsa working on R0?
21:53:21	kugel	lorenzo92: I mean alsa also doesnt have APIs for that
21:53:28	lorenzo92	ah ok!
21:53:28	kugel	I didnt try on the r0 yet
21:53:31	lorenzo92	not a problem ;)
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22:01:20	kugel	lorenzo92: so, what toolchain now?
22:01:43	lorenzo92	code sourgery
22:01:44	lorenzo92	wait
22:02:17	lorenzo92	https://sourcery.mentor.com/sgpp/lite/arm/portal/release1803
22:02:32	lorenzo92	I used 4.3.2 but the newest should work
22:03:22	kugel	we'll see :)
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22:07:06	pamaury	gevaerts: do you know HID well ?
22:08:28	gevaerts	no
22:09:25	desowin_	pamaury: you mean USB HID?
22:11:12	pamaury	yes, I want to be able to use the fuze+ touchpad in the simulator for easier development; I can hack something fast and dirty but I could also go the standard USB HID PID way, I'm wondering if it's worth it and if it's easy enough to change our usbhid driver, I haven't looked at it for a while
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22:16:21	pamaury	I'll try to go the hid way, seem easy to modify it, just need to read the crazy hid spec to find the good report
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22:18:31	bluebrother	kugel: doesn't work. And svn export has more uses than existing "because each and every dir has .svn in it".
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22:18:48	kugel	lorenzo92: arm-none-linux-gnueabi-gcc?
22:18:57	bluebrother	well, rm'ing .git would work but it defeats the purpose of what I was doing using svn export in the past
22:18:57	lorenzo92	yes
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22:19:22	kugel	bluebrother: why do you need the export?
22:19:31	bluebrother	I'm not too motivated cloning a complete repository and throwing away the repository information just to get a small number of files out of the repository.
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22:19:51	funman	git clone −−depth=1
22:20:09	bluebrother	because I want to pick some files out of the repository. Without having a local repository
22:20:48	bluebrother	for example, for the langstat script for Rockbox Utility I want to get a few files and work with them. Then drop it.
22:21:01	bluebrother	funman: can I do that with a refspec?
22:21:27	funman	not sure what a refspec is .. ?
22:21:30	kugel	but you have a complete checkout for that?
22:21:45	funman	git clone takes a repository URL
22:22:07	bluebrother	kugel: I don't have a complete checkout and I don't want to use a checkout. Too dangerous having unwanted modifications in it.
22:22:29	bluebrother	well, can I get a specific revision / tag from git that way?
22:22:47	funman	no
22:22:54	*	bluebrother reads git clone manpage
22:23:27	bluebrother	the problem is that I want to have a clean copy for building releases. Which means I can't trust _any_ checkout on disk
22:24:50	bluebrother	I guess for git I need to have a clone around somewhere. Which changes the problem to "get a number of files (by list / wildcard) from a specific revision"
22:25:13	bluebrother	something that is pretty simple with svn but doesn't seem to be part of the git use case
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22:33:02	kugel	lorenzo92: how do I prepare SDL?
22:33:22	bluebrother	hmpf. Why can I get Rockbox Utility building pretty easily from the command line but not from Qt Creator on Windows?
22:33:23	lorenzo92	I attached necessary libs in my zip, but wait
22:34:15	lorenzo92	something like that
22:34:20	lorenzo92	./configure −−enable-input-tslib=no −−disable-esd −−disable-pulseaudio −−disable-cdrom −−disable-video-x11 −−enable-alsa-shared=no −−with-alsa-prefix=/home/lorenzo/YP-R0_DEV/rockbox/CRAMFS/lib −−with-alsa-inc-prefix=/home/lorenzo/YP-R0_DEV/rockbox/alsafs/include −−host=arm-linux CC=/arm_dev/usr/local/arm/4.3.2/bin/arm-none-linux-gnueabi-gcc −−prefix=/home/lorenzo/YP-R0_DEV/rockbox/rom
22:34:57	lorenzo92	you need the firmware's alsa lib, attached in zip
22:35:45	kugel	which zip?
22:36:17	lorenzo92	uhm okay wait
22:36:52	kugel	ah, how_to_build.tar.gz?
22:37:10	lorenzo92	yes :)
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23:12:41	JamesHunt	Hello. Is there some changings in WPS skinning? Skins no longer work in the last few builds on Sansa Clip Plus.
23:14:18	scorche	anyone know where these images dfkt gave me to use on the themesite are from? - did he make them?
23:14:51	JamesHunt	Player just freezes when selecting wps-file, helps only hard reset. I must create bug report, no?
23:21:45	*	bluebrother wonders if supporting Visual Studio for building Rockbox Utility would make sense
23:22:01	bluebrother	main problem is the lack of C99 support in VC :(
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23:31:03	JamesHunt	This bug started from today's build, in yesterday's there is no.
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23:44:28	gevaerts	scorche: I think he did
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23:45:09	scorche	gevaerts: i just want to make sure of that so there aren't any potential license issues before I put it ont he themesite ;)
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23:48:53	JamesHunt	Ok, here's a bug report http://rockbox.org/tracker/task/12425 and here's still unaccepted updated language file http://rockbox.org/tracker/task/12420
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23:50:13	kugel	who can rename wiki pages?
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23:53:08	funman	bluebrother: to download partial tree perhaps you could do that from gitweb
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