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#rockbox log for 2011-12-16

00:00:27*the-kyle checked out and built r31290. Something in the update fixed the recording problem I mentioned earlier. I'm glad I didn't write that bug report.
00:02:01JdGordondid I break scrolling or something?
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00:07:13CIA-1New commit by jethead71 (r31311): Collect some of the memory frame LCD C code. ...
00:07:17dreamlayersfml: the problem was that usb storage code will try to set the time even if there's no rtc.
00:09:07CIA-1r31311 build result: 6 errors, 3 warnings (jethead71 committed)
00:18:46*rarog is waiting for "fixing red"
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00:20:12 Quit ender` (Quit: Anyone with a bit of common sense should see through the ploy. Unfortunately, this is testimony before Congress. -- Mike Masnick (TechDirt))
00:20:15funmanjhMikeS: ?
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00:24:36CIA-1New commit by jethead71 (r31312): Fix r31311 red and yellow.
00:26:26CIA-1r31312 build result: All green
00:27:24*jhMikeS chuckles that e200v1 is still listed as LCD_X5 :D
00:27:28funmanjhMikeS: thanks
00:27:31funmanyeah ..
00:27:39jhMikeSit's _nothing_ like the x5
00:28:00funmanit's all like copy pasting stuff and trying to understand it later :/
00:28:33jhMikeSthey switched to CPP a long time ago (copy-pasta porting)
00:29:07the-kyleI see that USB is now enabled by default on Clip+. Will it be enabled in the bootloader in the near future, so that the Clip+ no longer boots to OFW just by plugging in a USB cable?
00:29:10funmanyeah we discuss the hwcodec fork but we have a lot of forks inside the single repo
00:29:13CIA-1New commit by funman (r31313): factorize common PP files
00:29:29funmanthe-kyle: yes when it gets enough testing so we're sure it works correctly
00:30:04jhMikeSfunman just wanted the 31313 palindrome commit
00:30:07the-kyleSo far, it's working great here for a little over a week.
00:30:19CIA-1New commit by jdgordon (r31314): OOPS, style got lost in scrolling lines with r31247, so put it back
00:30:32jhMikeSgood jonathan!
00:30:37*JdGordon likes easy fixes
00:30:59CIA-1r31313 build result: All green
00:31:17funmanwow i got the lucky number
00:32:21jhMikeSdoes LCD_TYPE really get used for anything much?
00:32:56CIA-1r31314 build result: All green
00:33:11funmanjhMikeS: yeah, in firmware/SOURCES , nothing else afaik
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00:33:36funmanjhMikeS: only sometimes though
00:33:53funmanfor now i focused on the files which are included multiple times
00:34:16funmanLCD_X5 might be noot used for example
00:34:55funmanapps/plugins/doom/i_video.c:#elif (CONFIG_LCD == LCD_X5) && !defined(SIMULATOR) \
00:35:05jhMikeSI added some multi-includes 'cause proper defines didn't exist. More abstract sorts might be more useful
00:35:19funman && defined(CPU_COLDFIRE) /* protect from using it on e200 (sic!) */
00:36:25jhMikeSI suspect a taget knows what it should have deep down, but things like memory framebuffer display is a whole class of hardware design
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00:38:56funmanjhMikeS: do bits-armv4.S need to be written in asm ?
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00:40:25jhMikeSto make it as tight as possible
00:41:13funmanhow much bytes are we talking here?
00:41:53jhMikeSwhat do you mean?
00:42:09funmani mean a C code should not be that big that it matters
00:42:32funmani see it's used on these targets/cpus : IMX233 AS3525(v2) GIGABEATF MROBE500 ZVM CONNECT COWON S5L87 MINI244
00:42:35jhMikeSnot so much a size thing as cutting instructions
00:42:39funmanwondering if it could just be unconditional
00:42:53funmanah you mean while the interrupts are disabled?
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00:43:33funmani'll see what gcc gives
00:43:50jhMikeSand making sure that things aren't moved in funny ways
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00:45:20funmani am tempted to build it unconditionally on arm anyway
00:45:37funmanthat would mean that -ffunction-sections wouldn't work with it though
00:47:49funmanit is 52 instructions = 208 bytes
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00:50:52funmanah btw the list i gave was for armv4 mmu, not bits-armv4
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00:52:45*jhMikeS tries something on a longshot
00:55:56CIA-1New commit by funman (r31315): bits-armv4.S: build on arm < 6
00:56:08CIA-1New commit by funman (r31316): factorize build of mmu-arm.S (for armv4/5)
00:57:43CIA-1r31315 build result: All green
00:59:30CIA-1r31316 build result: 112 errors, 0 warnings (funman committed)
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01:03:22CIA-1New commit by funman (r31317): Fix mmu-arm.S selection
01:03:34CIA-1New commit by funman (r31318): Factorize ipod mini common code
01:05:31CIA-1r31317 build result: All green
01:07:16CIA-1r31318 build result: All green
01:07:47jhMikeSchange .section to be .text.<function name> in the .asm and it discards them
01:09:12jhMikeS*if* -ffunction-sections is on
01:09:28funmani think we just miss a few KEEP in .lds files
01:09:30CIA-1New commit by dreamlayers (r31319): Remove USB time sync code when there's no RTC. ...
01:09:32funmanbefore turning that on
01:09:39funmandreamlayers: that's it, right?
01:09:56dreamlayersfunman: yeah, and I can easily add those
01:10:19jhMikeSso, I guess .asm files aren't a problem in that case
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01:11:03dreamlayersOh, also wildcards in You need .text* not .text
01:11:41CIA-1r31319 build result: All green
01:12:45funmanjhMikeS: you're right
01:14:18funmani removed 305 lines of that file
01:14:20jhMikeSI did test it! :)
01:14:40jhMikeSDid know if it would work but it did, happily.
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01:15:49funmanjhMikeS: there is no red in the table for r31315 :o
01:16:56jhMikeSI think if *no* functions are referenced in the asm, as they are currently, then it won't include the file at all
01:18:56jhMikeSfor it to cherry pick routines to keep with -ffunction-sections, it needs the modified .section attribute
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01:19:53dreamlayersjhMikeS: that's what I observed
01:21:14CIA-1New commit by funman (r31320): factorize build of ipod files
01:21:23funmani was thinking about using automake but i don't know if it can be used without autoconf (which we don't need at all)
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01:23:30CIA-1r31320 build result: All green
01:25:19dreamlayersAre the linker scripts messy, or are they dealing with buggy linkers?
01:25:56dreamlayersSome things don't make sense, like something inside KEEP() followed by the same thing without KEEP().
01:27:13dreamlayersAnother example is *(.text) followed by *(.text*). In one place there's a comment that it's necessary with .rodata.
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01:27:17jhMikeSI've seen a few funny comments
01:28:08funmani dont think we deal with buggy linkers
01:28:10gevaertsI suspect it's more that most of us learn how to write linker scripts by copying likely-looking bits and making random changes until things seem to work
01:28:31funmanin any way we can either patch or update the linker (but that should be done with much parcimony i guess)
01:28:42funmanyeah that's more likely
01:31:30dreamlayersI used to think linker scripts were mysterious, but they're actually quite simple.
01:31:45soapWhat's all these "factorize" commits? Someone help the noob?
01:35:17funmansoap: trying to define under which conditions the files are built
01:35:22jhMikeSfactoring is hard
01:35:29funmaninstead of listing all the files for each target
01:36:53funmansoap: i would like to change some bits of the build system so this was the introduction
01:37:32soapHow is your factorizing different than just ifdeffing it all into little boxes?
01:37:53soapI guess I don't understand what it does.
01:38:08funmanwhat do you mean?
01:38:33soapgive me a day to read and make a more intelligent question about how this works different than what was happening before.
01:38:45funmanit works the same
01:39:31jhMikeSit used to be the way we're changing it back to....which was ultimately a nightmare and I got thanked for making it the was is was up until hours ago. :)
01:40:28jhMikeSIt was more based upon general conditions
01:41:13funmanyou remember when that change happened?
01:45:03funmani had changed plugins 1 year 1/2 ago
01:48:00jhMikeSI guess it wasn't so much so. it did have alot of crazy conditions and SIMULATOR checks
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01:49:53funmanthe most complex parts must be firmware/SOURCES and plugin bitmaps
01:50:15jhMikeSonly r11468 I think was when I messed with it alot
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01:51:42funmananyway, getting some rest! see you
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03:59:23limescoutHey guys! I'm working on my first plugin, but I can't get it to show up in the simulator menu. I've done exactly as it says on the "how to write plugins" wiki page
04:02:16JdGordondid you do make install?
04:05:29JdGordondid you add it to apps/plugins/CATEGORIES?
04:06:13limescoutyes, as fencingref,apps
04:07:16JdGordonand that isnt in .rockbox/rockbox/apps?
04:07:21JdGordonyou sure its being compiled?
04:08:33limescoutyes, I got it. A little typo in catagories didn't match up with the filename
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04:10:57remlapGood morning, looking forward to putting a stable release on my sansa clip+
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04:18:21GuinnessI thought clip+ had been stable for a long while
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10:22:57nick-pI'm preparing to commit FS #12419 and had a couple of questions;
10:22:59fs-bluebot Support for embedded cuesheets. (patches, unconfirmed)
10:22:59nick-p1) Applying it to a Sansa e200v2 (what I'm testing against) increases the rockbox.bin size by 856 bytes, is that excessive?
10:23:02nick-p2) I was hoping a kind soul would have a quick look through the last patch on the page,
10:23:05nick-pto see if I've made any rookie mistakes that would break other targets, or if I'm squandering resources (especially if the answer to 1 is yes).
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10:23:27gevaertsnick-p: 856 bytes seems reasonable for an actual feature
10:23:51nick-pgevaerts: phew, I've been trying to shave off bytes for a while now
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11:09:07nick-poh well, here goes...
11:09:43CIA-1New commit by nick_p (r31321): FS #12419 : Support for embedded cuesheets.
11:12:47CIA-1r31321 build result: 122 errors, 4 warnings (nick_p committed)
11:13:08nick-pbugger. ok, bear with me...
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11:13:57gevaertsnick-p: given yesterday's red average, 122 errors isn't *that* bad :)
11:14:24gevaertsAnd of course you're not anywhere near the entries on
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11:22:23desowinhow to deal with debouncing GIO? I guess long delays inside signal handler are no-do
11:22:35desowin(signal = interrupt)
11:23:32pamaurydesowin: use a timeout
11:23:42pamaurysee how it's handled in sd for example
11:24:22CIA-1New commit by nick_p (r31322): Fix red?
11:26:59CIA-1r31322 build result: All green
11:27:27nick-pwell that was nerve racking...
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11:29:31gevaertsnick-p: in the end it pays to have all toolchains installed ;)
11:29:59nick-pgevaerts: wise words!
11:30:01ukleineknick-p: and I guess it answered your question about breaking other targets :-)
11:30:37nick-pukleinek: bloody unused or is it mpeg.c
11:45:21desowinpamaury: I didn't realize kernel supports timeout, thanks
11:46:29pamaurydesowin: it's no compiled in for some targets but since you probably already use it for sd...
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12:20:39CIA-1New commit by desowin (r31323): Sansa Connect: Disable USB clocks when disconnected.
12:23:10CIA-1r31323 build result: All green
12:27:14remlap1Guinness: Sorry for late reply the Clip the website said it wasn't stable?
12:27:58remlap1wait I meant clip zip
12:28:01remlap1tired as heck
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13:01:04desowinConnect's OF somehow deals without IMGBUF clk (we need it for DSP to work)
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13:44:31Misanthropossince recently when skipping a track/starting a new track a klicking sound is heared (more left than right) - any ideas what could cause that?
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13:45:27rarogTorne: could you please sync git with svn again. :)
13:45:51Misanthroposi am using a clip+ with a r313xx rockbox
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16:45:11SynrGhm, my son complains with 3.9.1 (i'd upgrade him, only the player isn't here right now) that FM radio just freezes the player on his Fuze v2
16:45:16SynrGmy daughter has a Fuze v1. no problem with radio there
16:45:24SynrGi'm not seeing anything about this in 3.10 release notes, nor in Flyspray ... have i overlooked something?
16:45:35SynrGi'll file a bug after upgrading to 3.10 if it has not yet been reported
16:45:52rarogThis is the best thing you can do.
16:52:37SynrGare there any standards for format of info to appear in regional playlist submissions?
16:53:18SynrG has Callsign Branding (Region) -format ... i think that's excessive, and Branding -format would be better (or omit format)
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17:25:00gevaertsSynrG: I have no idea if there are conventions for fmr files, but I'd say that it's easier to remove things after downloading than to add things
17:25:09gevaertsSo I'd say add all data you have
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17:37:00*Mir is getting annoyed at the play all tracks feature
17:37:28Mirinstead of doing it by track number it plays the tracks by alphabetical order
17:37:34Mirthis pisses me off
17:37:58gevaertsYou should use the database then
17:38:11Mirgevaerts: this is via the database
17:38:22Mirgo to artist choose nevermore
17:38:28Mirplay all tracks
17:38:55Mirits no different than Shuffle
17:39:23Mirand i HATE Shuffle
17:40:30Mirthis makes listening to more than one album by an artist miserable
17:41:12Mirif i want to listen to the entire discogrophy of led zeppelin it does so alphabeticly
17:41:46*gevaerts suspects that Mir wants to look into tagnavi_custom.config
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17:42:43gevaertsI can't help much more though. I don't use the database
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17:50:51SynrGgevaerts: ah. then i might produce a pair of them. one to upload, one for use on my player with information removed.
17:51:11SynrGRegion seems redundant to me though, in a regional fmr ...
17:51:18SynrGor are people merging these?
17:51:26*gevaerts has no idea
17:51:49SynrGis this a topic that should be discussed in a broader forum, then?
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17:52:23SynrGi'll tell you what i'm using as data though, the wikipedia list of channels for my region.
17:52:45SynrGsupplementing that with info from the individual radio station web sites, if the wikipedia page is missing anything
17:53:03SynrG(though arguably, when that happens, i should just update the wikipedia page. hmm)
17:53:35SynrGthis could all be automated with a scraper script
17:56:52SynrGthen rather than hand-crafting and distributing these, the user points the script at a wikipedia page for their region, selects a format string, and hey-presto, instant .fmr with *just* what the user wants in it
17:57:53SynrGhmm. sadly, branding is missing
17:58:01SynrGsee 1l homo milk
17:58:01SynrG3x cream cheese
17:58:07SynrGarrgh, mispaste :)
17:58:25SynrGsee for example
17:58:37SynrGand speaking of which. out for shopping. later
17:59:19Mirthis isnt a complaint
17:59:33Mirbut i cant get any radiostations on my clip or C240
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17:59:41Mirits not an issues with rockbox
18:00:01Miri cant get any radiostations on my Areial either when i had one :)
18:05:27*gevaerts would like to point out that we do take the topic seriously in this channel
18:14:35SynrGoh, i remember now. the individual radio station pages had branding
18:18:02rarogjlbiasini: ah, you uploaded my bootloader now... would you mind to bump the percentage of SD implementation to something higher? :D
18:20:06jlbiasiniI think you should rather ask for writing right on the wiki. I cannot give them as I'm also a beginner here. But I'm working on the rockbox utility now
18:20:42jlbiasinianyway how do we have sd now? I thought there were still the booting issue?
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19:01:23rarogjlbiasini: paumary did the checkin yest
19:01:43rarogand for me it didn't produdce any error at all
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19:02:02rarogand now it also offers me the internal storage and cd card when plugged in to usb.
19:02:17rarogso paumary seems to have done some more success.
19:03:11rarogThe v3 bootloader in the bug report has sd support inside and latest daily build has it, too.
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19:04:30pamauryyes, one need to update the bootloader to have bootloader usb with sd, otherwise one will need to plug usb after the boot
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19:38:46*bluebrother^ wonders why libmkamsboot has a problem building as universal library and others do not
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20:01:42TheLemonManarr, stuff gets automagically defined somehwere else than my config file
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20:24:44jlbiasiniI've got a question regarding the find_address utility: The example given seems to give some assembler's code as result. I never get those on my query. Is there any explanation for that? At the end of the example it says: "Don't forget to build with -g" what do I have to buid this way? -g doesn't seems to be an options for the configure script...
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20:28:58wodzpamaury: Am I right that your symbol patch works only for f+?
20:29:08pamaurywodz: yes but it's trivial to adapt
20:30:27wodzpamaury: how big is symbol table (aka binsize impact)?
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20:32:26pamaurywodz: ~40Kib
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20:40:08lebelliumhey guys
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20:41:16lebelliumon the Clip Zip with my theme, when I enable hold, I get the message "buttons locked" then it disappears but remains in the background (where I put no viewport I guess); Is that a bug?
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20:52:05TheLemonMani think that theres a better way to disable storage other than setting CONFIG_STORAGE to 0
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20:53:22gevaertsTheLemonMan: why do you want to disable storage?
20:54:06TheLemonManim trying to write some preliminary code for this board and dont really need it atm
20:54:25gevaertsYou could use the ramdisk
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20:56:42TheLemonManoh, right, got it
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21:00:19lebelliumhello bertrik : on the Clip Zip with my theme, when I enable hold, I get the message "buttons locked" then it disappears but remains in the background (where I put no viewport I guess); Is that a bug?
21:00:29jlbiasinilebellium: you're the one who made the fabulous samsung-like theme right?
21:00:36bertrikI don't know
21:01:10lebelliumjlbiasini : the samsung-like theme yes, fabulous I don't know lol
21:01:57lebelliumbertrik : whom should I ask to then?
21:03:26jlbiasiniwell I just notice a little thing that could be improved: if the cover art has the same color or nearly as the song info background (i.e. white) in the wps, then it is weird perhaps you could add atiny line as separator?
21:04:28jlbiasiniI was also wondering if it is possible to theme this awfull button locked text with some image because this is clearly awfull on all theme! :D
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21:07:36lebelliumjlbiasini : the problem is there is only 1px between the album art and the id3tag infos :S As for hold feature, the text is independant from the theme, I can't change that but I can display pictures/icons (like the lock icon in the status bar). I don't know if I can display a pic over this "buttons locked" text, I shoule try
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21:10:38CIA-1New commit by bluebrother (r31329): Rockbox Utility: use libsansapatcher. ...
21:10:42jlbiasinion the sansa fuze+ original firmware the separation is handel by putting the progress bar between file's info and album covert
21:11:36lebelliumah you mean the 240*320 theme
21:11:46lebelliumI thought you spoke about my Sansa Zip theme^^
21:12:10jlbiasiniyes :)
21:12:28jlbiasiniBut the theme is already very nice
21:12:44CIA-1r31327 build result: All green
21:13:37lebelliumthe biggest issue for me is the menu viewport that doesn't display full screen when the mini-player is OFF but I can't do anything about that until JdGordon includes his skins engine improvements into the SVN :S
21:14:17jlbiasinithe locked button stuff is probably difficult because I never saw a theme that in any other theme
21:14:36jlbiasini*handle it
21:15:00CIA-1r31329 build result: All green
21:15:58lebelliumatm for the separator line, I suggest you to edit my WPS background pic, that should be easy but I can't imagine that to be beautiful :S
21:17:55jlbiasiniyes I understand.
21:19:28lebelliumbtw, do you have the FM radion menu with Fuze+ or is it still missing?
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21:21:02jlbiasiniI had also an I idea about the wps displayed while no cover art are availlable: have the phono arm moving to show the position in the track!!! But I would be a mess for such a little result ;D No the radio is still under developpement on the fuze+: selecting it just crash rockbox
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21:24:26lebelliumin the original R0 fw the vinyle is rotating but these pictures are in a proprietary format and there is no editor available as of today. So I took the pic from the R1 and it's not rotating... I don't master Photoshop enough to reproduce the rotation :S
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21:31:13biopyteHi, I'm running rockbox on sansa clip+ and like it very much. however, there is one major issue with FM radio. Regardless what station, there is always the same specific background noise. Its a continuous ticking .... tick-tick-tick-tick, approx. 4 ticks/sec. this does not happen with the original clip firmware. obviously, its an rockbox issue. it would be fine if you could solve this in later versions.
21:31:27biopytethank you
21:32:40jlbiasinibiopyte: you probably should look if there isn't already a bug report on this and if not make one
21:33:13jlbiasinihave a look here:
21:33:18wodzbiopyte: I think there is similar bug report on the tracker already
21:33:39biopytereally? ok, i check it out.
21:33:41wodzfunman: tried to track down this ticking without luck to my knowledge
21:35:35jlbiasiniFS #11915
21:35:36fs-bluebot Background noise with Sansa ClipV2 (bugs, new)
21:36:05jlbiasinibiopyte: is it this?
21:37:50biopytejlbiasini, not really, because i have this problem only with FM radio, not with music files
21:38:43biopyteits more like this:
21:39:13biopyteso its a known issue
21:40:03biopytebut not easy to solve, unfortunately ... anyway, listening to radio i boot up the original firmware, thats ok
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21:40:51jlbiasiniyeah but feel free to do some test and add info to the tracker: it might helps debugging it
21:41:29biopyteits no issue listening loud rock music ... but with classic and jazz its a problem
21:43:45funmanwodz: i think saratoga also had a look at it
21:44:25funmanbiopyte: is the tick present when you record FM ?
21:45:34funmanjhMikeS: committed soem changes about recordign on sansa AMS, I am not sure if they affected recording. Are you running 3.10 or a current build?
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21:47:09biopytefunman i remember there was an background noise issue when recording FM with both ... firmware and rockbox. i dont remember if it was the same noise. however, recording FM never worked for me
21:47:31biopytealways background noise
21:48:25funmanbiopyte: which FM chip? (you can see it in the debug menu)
21:48:42biopyteone moment
21:49:48funmanfm recording works for me on clip zip
21:49:52biopyteSI4700 ...?
21:52:11funmancurrent build?
21:52:41biopytei dont need recording ... just clean listening would be fine
21:53:33biopyteversion 3.9
21:53:44funmangrab something newer then from
21:54:14funmani was asking about recording to help debug what's going wrong. but you should just try a current build to see if the problem was already fixed
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21:56:19biopyte3.10 then ...
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21:57:29funmanbiopyte: no, current build
21:57:33PittHi everyone, I need help with unbricking sansa clip V1
21:58:01funmanbiopyte: grab the clip+ build (r31330)
21:58:18funmanPitt: how did you brick it?
21:59:26PittI stated it up, and suddenly it's saying "PANIC SD Xfer read err:0x8 Disc0" so I'm assuming it's bricked or some memory problem
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22:01:01biopytehow do i make an upgrade with the utility ... Installation - Install Rockbox?
22:01:51gevaertsPitt: have you tried holding the power switch for 30 seconds or so?
22:01:52biopyteor first uninstall old version?
22:02:59PittI now have unsoldered battery
22:04:56biopyteok, i press Install Rockbox .... your responsibility ...
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22:07:27Pittwhen I'm shortenig recovery pins and connecting player to USB nothing happend. But when I stop shortening pins the "PANIC" info cames back
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22:10:24funmanPitt: well stop everything you're doing
22:10:27CIA-1New commit by bluebrother (r31332): rbspeex, libucl: add rule to build DLL.
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22:10:41saratogai would reboot into the sandisk firmware and check the file system for errors
22:10:48saratogai would not recommending unsoldering anything
22:10:51funmanPitt: it is a software error, your player is not bricked
22:11:09bluebrother^shortening pins of a battery?
22:11:55PittOK. So can I do something?
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22:12:17funmanpress left button, press power. original firmware starts up
22:12:35CIA-1r31331 build result: All green
22:12:43funmanperhaps the wiki should be moer explicit
22:13:13funmanit's not possible to brick a sansa ams player. the only possibility is to change mkamsboot
22:13:47funmanthe sansa clipv2 is special though; but then i don't know if someone could unbrick it.
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22:14:25CIA-1r31333 build result: All green
22:14:36PittThank you a lot :) I'll reassemble player and try to fix it
22:16:55biopytefunman: updated to the current build. the ticking noise has gone almost completely. i can here it only on one station with weak signal, but the noise is not so loud as it used to be with 3.9
22:17:22funmanbiopyte: all is good then :) before reporting a bug make sure that it happens in the development version
22:17:23biopytefunman: seems, as we have solved the problem ... thank you.
22:18:13bertrikhm, I don't know of a reason why the ticking noise would be quieter in a newer build
22:19:11funmanbertrik: r31180 ?
22:19:59biopytebertrik: i can definitely hear the difference. i'm listening to a smooth and silent jazz piece, no ticking at all
22:20:03bertrikoh, during recording
22:20:25biopyteno, not recording
22:20:32biopytei can check recording
22:20:35biopyteone moment
22:20:40funmanno, but i thought this change could affect fm playback
22:24:57funmanall hail ot ãšçïî
22:25:33biopytedont know how to save the FM recording
22:26:48funmanyeah the (fm) recording interface sucks on the clips. anyway the manual should describe it
22:28:08bertrikI haven't tried it for a while, but my theory was that the ticking is caused either by i2c communication with tuner or by interference by a display framebuffer update
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22:31:20funmani think there were recent changes for i2c related to interrupts
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22:32:02funmanbertrik: ah btw did i tell you that i get 23fps with mpegplayer on the zip. i don't know if it's realtime or if that means that we're too slow. the framerate seemed constant though
22:32:28funmanlet me urn the test plugin
22:34:09bertrikI think the maximum fps we can reach (limited by SPI speed) is 40.7 fps
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22:35:14biopytefunman: i looked in the wrong folder (files/record/fm). the recording files where in the files main folder
22:35:32biopyteso, FM recording is clean and nice ...
22:36:08biopytei have also the impression that FM signals are stronger and sound is better. but that might also be an illusion .
22:36:21biopyteso, perfect ... thanks to you, guys
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22:45:35*funman changed a bit
22:54:21funmanbertrik: 1/1 40.5fps 1/4 81fps YUV: 1/1 37.5fps 1/4 78fps. It's hard to read because YUV is drawn in the framebuffer instead of on the screen
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23:23:52bluebrother^why does rbspeex want to build rbspeex.dll.o if the rule building rbspeex.dll is already done and matched?
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23:38:25dfktcan i reuse the same image labels in wps, sbs, fms - or do they conflict?
23:39:11lebelliumdfkt: they don't seem to conflict
23:39:57dfktjust asking cause i never actually tried it - but reusing them would make it more convenient :)
23:40:31lebelliumI did it for my theme, copy & paste is more convenient indeed :p
23:41:51ack /win 9
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23:46:49deuteis it normal that preparing the computer for compiling needs like more than 20 min? im new to rockbox development and i am trying to set up the compiler(using The Simple Guide To Compiling In Linux ). i ran ./ and it s like doing and doing for over 20 min.
23:47:02dfktthat's normal
23:47:07deuteah ok... fine
23:47:39saratogawe do provide a VB image that comes with the compilers already installed (very handy for windows users)
23:47:51saratogawell at least those with fast internet
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23:58:03deuteyes but im just getting started with linux and i kind of like it... trying to avoid windows : )
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