| 00:00:47 | scorche | i just tried it |
| 00:01:30 | thomas | thanks... its not really intuitive.. |
| 00:01:39 | thomas | and it takes ages to retype all the information |
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| 00:01:47 | thomas | from the other captcha and so on |
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| 00:10:42 | 5EXAAM35L | New commit by funman (r31372): usb-drv-as3525v2: revert part of r31243 ... |
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| 00:12:57 | 5EXAAM35L | r31372 build result: All green |
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| 00:18:03 | funman | pamaury: http://anythingbutipod.com/forum/showthread.php?s=67eb78fc6cb9fb040f0f00afa4042281&p=589682#post589682 we seem to be faster than OF :) |
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| 04:04:20 | dartmouth | Just a note on Clip Zip USB if it helps you any- I had an issue a few days ago (I believe it was with r31320, but may have been a little earlier) where after safely removing from Mint, the Zip would continually data abort/restart after 'scanning disk' for a minute. The culprit was a folder of MP3s that I'd changed tags and renamed with EasyTag, and after deleting that folder RB started working again. I could eject the SD, power on RB, and insert/play fr |
| 04:05:14 | dartmouth | *changed tags and renamed on the SD, in the Zip while plugged in |
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| 06:19:05 | bobo | hi |
| 06:20:22 | bobo | can anyone tell me how to access the shortcuts on 3.10? |
| 06:21:11 | bobo | i used the dev version a while and it had a shortcuts menu in main menu, but the stable version does not unfortunately |
| 06:28:05 | [Saint] | There's no dev/stable version of 3.10, it either is 3.10 or its not. |
| 06:29:43 | bobo | i am using 3.10 now |
| 06:29:50 | bobo | used a dev version before |
| 06:30:12 | [Saint] | I'm not sure if the shortcuts menu was comitted before, or after, the release. It nay be that it was committed afterward. |
| 06:30:17 | bobo | the current dev version does have the shortcus menu, 3.10 stable does not |
| 06:30:30 | [Saint] | Right, see above. |
| 06:31:02 | bobo | alright. so that means there is no way to access the shortcuts then? |
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| 06:31:30 | [Saint] | Correct. Update to an svn build and you'll get them back. |
| 06:32:08 | [Saint] | s/them/it/ |
| 06:32:26 | bobo | that's weird. why can you create them then? as the shortcuts plugin has been there for a while |
| 06:33:20 | [Saint] | Its a different system altogether. |
| 06:33:39 | [Saint] | Shortcuts was completely re-implemented. |
| 06:33:52 | bobo | i rather wait for a new stable, as the current svn seems to crash my ipod when connecting usb cable |
| 06:34:01 | bobo | alright. cheers for the info |
| 06:34:11 | scorche | if no one reports bugs to us, they can never get fixed... |
| 06:34:37 | [Saint] | The old system functioned in an entirely different way, and never had an entry in the main menu for shortcuts. |
| 06:35:41 | [Saint] | And, scorche is quite right...report your bug re: the svn build not booting (verify it still exists) on Flyspray. |
| 06:36:05 | [Saint] | So the developers actually know about it. |
| 06:37:01 | [Saint] | Whoops. Why did I read "not booting", "crashing on inserting USB" rather, sorry. |
| 06:39:59 | bobo | alright, will do. |
| 06:40:57 | [Saint] | Thanks. |
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| 07:22:02 | 5EXAAM35L | New commit by desowin (r31373): Sansa Connect: Disable EMIF clock after booting main binary. Raise the threshold values for battery dangerous and shutoff levels. ... |
| 07:22:36 | desowin | it's not below 5% as some battery benches contain info afterwards but some don't |
| 07:22:49 | desowin | (not reliable) |
| 07:23:19 | desowin | wiki has to be updated to reflect that |
| 07:24:32 | desowin | also discharge curve loses its linearity there |
| 07:28:11 | 5EXAAM35L | r31373 build result: All green |
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| 07:38:01 | desowin | but well, it can last about half an hour at 4% and below |
| 07:38:33 | desowin | but the battery shouldn't really be discharged that much |
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| 08:47:55 | wodz | desowin: % indicator (it comes from avr right?) doesn't tell you anything. You need to measure voltage over battery connector to judge if 5% is fine or not. |
| 08:48:37 | wodz | you don't know the assumption of callibration curve implemented in avr |
| 08:48:53 | wodz | (unless you dissasembled avr firmware) |
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| 09:21:16 | wodz | petur: ping |
| 09:21:28 | petur | yes? |
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| 09:21:42 | wodz | I think you are the author of AGC feature |
| 09:22:06 | petur | not exactly, but I did commit it and know a bit about it |
| 09:22:09 | wodz | what are the requirements to use it? |
| 09:22:24 | petur | the gain steps have to be small enough |
| 09:23:07 | wodz | is 0.5dB - 0.75dBok |
| 09:23:13 | wodz | ? |
| 09:23:15 | petur | yes |
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| 09:23:42 | petur | 0.5 is what the irivers have iirc |
| 09:23:57 | wodz | now from the quick glance at the code it looks to me like it assumes some strange gain input format (uda1380 specific?) |
| 09:24:23 | petur | does it? |
| 09:24:33 | petur | that I can't remember |
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| 09:25:16 | petur | let me peek in the code |
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| 09:26:18 | wodz | it performs adjustments +/- 1 which I guess comes from hardcoded 0.5dB step |
| 09:27:27 | wodz | I would expect it to perform +/- 1 * step size (which is defined in audiohw_settings[]) |
| 09:28:06 | petur | looks like you're right |
| 09:29:12 | wodz | auto_gain_control() worker function has some hardcoded values also (which I don't quite understand where they come from) |
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| 09:30:57 | petur | lucky for us everything is explained in the comments |
| 09:31:36 | petur | the guy who wrote it went away even before I committed it |
| 09:31:49 | wodz | petur: not that much - code seems to be slightly changed and comments not updated |
| 09:32:22 | wodz | for example comment at the top of agc_gain_is_max() is bogus |
| 09:32:23 | petur | I was being sarcastic - there are no useful comments |
| 09:33:36 | petur | this is too long ago, I can't remember any of these details :/ |
| 09:33:41 | wodz | I don't understand what units are used in read_peak_levels() |
| 09:34:08 | petur | it uses the 16bit values iirc |
| 09:34:43 | petur | so some values are hardcoded conversions from dB to 16bit linear |
| 09:35:02 | wodz | hmm |
| 09:35:10 | wodz | that makes sense |
| 09:35:47 | wodz | is there some easy way to test AGC feature? |
| 09:36:02 | petur | you have an iriver? |
| 09:36:13 | petur | h1xx/h3xx? |
| 09:36:33 | wodz | unfortunately no |
| 09:36:38 | petur | I think those are the only targets that use the code |
| 09:37:13 | wodz | yes I know and I would like to change this as HD200/HD300 seems to be capable as well |
| 09:38:18 | petur | you can just try enabling it.... the puropse of AGC is to keep the peaks at -3dB, by increase/decrease of gain. In the case of safety mode, it will only decrease if too high, never increase |
| 09:38:26 | petur | *purpose |
| 09:39:35 | petur | balance is a functionality to change L/R gain to get a good balance as well - I never use that |
| 09:40:01 | wodz | in the current form it will not work for sure as wm8750 driver uses gains in centibels so +/- 1 should be equivalent to +/- 50 in this case |
| 09:40:28 | petur | feel free to experiment ;) |
| 09:44:25 | wodz | petur: anyway thanks for your comments - at least I understand what is behind hardcoded values in read_peak_levels() |
| 09:45:22 | petur | sorry I can't tell more, I haven't been active for a while, although I would like to do more, I just can't find the time |
| 09:47:32 | wodz | sound_steps() should do the trick - I'll experiment when I find some free time |
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| 09:54:22 | pixelma | petur: even if the gain steps are big so adjustments are audible - wouldn't it still be. better than clipping? |
| 09:54:39 | pixelma | thinking about other targets |
| 09:54:53 | petur | pixelma: I guess for safety mode that is true, yes |
| 09:57:28 | petur | you'd have to disable the other modes as users would complain ;) |
| 09:57:33 | pixelma | well yeah, I guess increasing gain would be better on PC |
| 09:58:35 | petur | for speech (lectures), full AGC is ok |
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| 10:00:17 | pixelma | except for the Iaudio internal mic with the 0/+20dB gain steps probably... ;) |
| 10:00:21 | petur | or if you record an quiet (like accoustic) concert, and are in the middle of the public, as the applause will ruin the gain ;) |
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| 11:31:21 | swilde | hi *, is it possible to exclude some directories from database creation/update? |
| 11:33:37 | swilde | I have put ~40.000 sid files on my e200 to test the new sid support (which is nice btw.) and to my great surprise all the sid meta data ends up in the database. While this feature is cool in general, in my case it is quite annoying (it _is_ impressive though to see thousands of entries in the database menus and rockbox actually handling them quick and well)... |
| 11:34:20 | gevaerts | Look for "database.ignore" in the manual |
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| 11:43:12 | swilde | gevaerts: thanks, that's what I was looking for! |
| 11:43:24 | [Saint] | I generally put a database.ignore in the root of my media folder, and a database.unignore in the folders I want scanned. |
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| 13:52:02 | desowin | after doing endless loop which toggles GIO line, with that udelay implementation, there's little jitter for 1us delay, but for 2us and more it's neglictable |
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| 14:00:24 | desowin | http://tnij.org/opk3 - I guess that's precise enough for udelay() |
| 14:00:56 | AndChat| | Hi, I have an ipod classic with rockbox, and when I plug it in (windows 7) it is not recognized and it isn't recognized as a disk. I an on a nightly build from a few days ago. Does anyone know of a solution? |
| 14:01:17 | kugel | desowin: cant open that link |
| 14:01:55 | kugel | AndChat|: the ipod classic is still in an early stage and unsupported. possibly usb just doesnt work yet |
| 14:02:16 | desowin | http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/522/sansaconnect10usloop.jpg/ - this should work |
| 14:02:42 | AndChat| | Kugel: it was working before, this problem is pretty new. |
| 14:03:13 | AndChat| | Sorry, I should have mentioned that. |
| 14:03:34 | desowin | hmm, I guess it's CIA hook that failed, as commit appears on frontpage, and yet I have "Transmitting file data ." |
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| 14:31:02 | 5EXAAM35L | New commit by desowin (r31376): TMS320DM320: Use TIMER1 (tick generator) to make udelay() precise. |
| 14:37:05 | * | desowin blames that crude udelay() implemenation that was there for such a hassle |
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| 14:43:13 | desowin | someone should check if mrobe 500 usb still works, as it uses udelay |
| 14:43:32 | gevaerts | I'll check tonight |
| 14:43:46 | gevaerts | After I've checked if I now have usable runtime data |
| 14:47:26 | desowin | actually sleep(0) (which takes max 10 ms) was faster than udelay(100)... the udelay was highly inaccurate |
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| 15:00:33 | labcoattech | hi all |
| 15:03:34 | labcoattech | I've installed rockbox on my sansa clip zip, when in rockbox mode windows 7 is asking for drivers |
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| 15:06:28 | labcoattech | can I only transfer files using the sansa firmware in windows? |
| 15:07:14 | gevaerts | Did you install rockbox 3.10 or a current build? |
| 15:08:15 | labcoattech | http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum/showthread.php?t=66292 |
| 15:08:24 | labcoattech | current build |
| 15:09:05 | * | gevaerts is an idiot |
| 15:09:16 | gevaerts | Right. There isn't a 3.10 release for the clip zip... |
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| 15:09:51 | gevaerts | USB support is still a bit unstable in rockbox, so yes, use the original firmware if rockbox usb doesn't work for you |
| 15:10:26 | labcoattech | I am new to rockbox as I only got my sansa zip the other day |
| 15:10:39 | labcoattech | thank you for your help |
| 15:12:05 | desowin | do we have general problems in usbstack or is it just drivers? |
| 15:12:20 | gevaerts | desowin: the usual amsv2 thing |
| 15:12:45 | desowin | so I could attempt porting that TNETV105PAP driver |
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| 15:53:35 | desowin | what about having unix_time_to_tm() and unix_time_from_tm() in firmware/drivers/rtc/unixtime_conversion.c? |
| 15:54:00 | desowin | or are there such functions buried somewhere? |
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| 16:46:49 | rarog | jlbiasini: Hello. :) I hope that probably soon a new bootloader will be there with the last fixes to sd problems... Though my case is quite rare. But I was able to track down the problem of FS #12468. Anything further seems to be beyound my field of understanding. |
| 16:46:50 | fs-bluebot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12468 Hotswap fails to recognize the card after it was removed in USB mode (bugs, unconfirmed) |
| 16:55:53 | 5EXAAM35L | New commit by mc2739 (r31378): Add missing strings to American English |
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| 17:03:30 | webguest16 | hey is anyone there? |
| 17:04:23 | webguest16 | ? |
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| 17:06:39 | gevaerts | webguest16: there are lots of people here. If you have a question, just ask |
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| 17:14:49 | webguest16 | Right. My sansa fuze is in a truly messed up state. Initially I installed rockbox properly and upon adding files to he player I realised that sometimes half the fileswould show up, sometimes none of them. I have tried al possible combinations. I have dragged and dropped using my computer, and I have use WMP in both MSC and MTC mode. Nothing seems to be working. |
| 17:19:13 | 5EXAAM35L | r31378 build result: All green |
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| 17:20:06 | gevaerts | webguest16: you should use MSC mode |
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| 17:20:33 | gevaerts | If you have "interesting" situations it's always worth it to check the filesystem |
| 17:23:25 | webguest16 | So does any1 have any ideas? I did use MSC mode. What do you guys think is going on |
| 17:26:43 | gevaerts | I can see a few possibilities: (a) you put files in directories that are marked hidden, (b) you (possibly accidentally) changed the "show files" options, or (c) the filesystem on the fuze is corrupted |
| 17:27:25 | gevaerts | To check for (a) or (b), set the "show files" option to "all" |
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| 17:53:47 | jlbiasini | rarog: well it seems you manager to follow the line! just go on |
| 17:59:18 | rarog | andyway I'm quite happy that the fuze+ port is very usable now before christmas. |
| 17:59:49 | rarog | in most parts the ports just needs some polishing. |
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| 18:37:38 | lorenzo92 | kugel: just seen you have added another patch ;) |
| 18:37:42 | lorenzo92 | kugel: changelog? |
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| 18:49:52 | kugel | lorenzo92: I only synced |
| 18:50:09 | kugel | I don't want to do massive changes anymore before committing |
| 18:50:11 | lorenzo92 | kugel: great :) |
| 18:50:21 | lorenzo92 | yeah better... |
| 18:50:30 | kugel | I'm basically waiting for the ROM stuff |
| 18:50:42 | lorenzo92 | yeah, if you see in the private chat I wrote about that |
| 18:50:44 | lorenzo92 | ;) |
| 18:51:09 | kugel | I saw that |
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| 18:51:15 | lorenzo92 | okay ;) |
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| 18:53:54 | n1s | kugelp: could you check out dircache.c:dircache_resume ? it seems bogus |
| 18:54:29 | n1s | or well, at least the return |
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| 19:04:20 | funman | usb on amsv2 seems rock solid now :) |
| 19:04:42 | dfkt | indeed it does :) thanks for the early christmas present! |
| 19:05:26 | dfkt | also nice job on the sansa junk disktidy additions |
| 19:07:09 | funman | dfkt: do you have a clip+ ? could you test USB mode of bootloader? |
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| 19:08:32 | funman | so we can remove OF-boot on USB plug |
| 19:09:06 | dfkt | when i plug a powered off clip+ in, it always boots OF, even when i hold the left button |
| 19:10:16 | dfkt | with a bootloader i built off r31254 - is that current enough? |
| 19:10:54 | funman | hm nope i enabled SD write in bootloader in a more recent rev |
| 19:11:01 | dfkt | ah ok, will build a new one |
| 19:11:03 | funman | and you need to patch mkamsboot too |
| 19:11:13 | funman | then the hotkey is to press center while plugging |
| 19:11:27 | dfkt | patch, or just new make for mkamsboot? |
| 19:11:36 | funman | patch |
| 19:12:19 | funman | http://pastie.org/3048429 |
| 19:12:24 | funman | i will try on fuzev2 |
| 19:12:25 | dfkt | thanks |
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| 19:24:10 | funman | dfkt: works fine on fuzev2 and clipzip |
| 19:29:20 | dfkt | funman, weird... clip+ still boots into OF. i did a svn up and patched mkamsboot, but it still shows an old revision |
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| 19:29:42 | funman | old revision for the bootloader or for mkamsboot? |
| 19:29:56 | funman | you need to run make in dualboot/ first, then make in rbutil/mkamsboot |
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| 19:30:52 | dfkt | funman - http://pastie.org/3048517 |
| 19:31:07 | dfkt | old mkamsboot despite new trunk |
| 19:32:28 | funman | dfkt: make -C dualboot && make |
| 19:32:29 | dfkt | ooh, dualboot - that's new to me |
| 19:32:33 | dfkt | ok |
| 19:33:48 | funman | [INFO] Dual-boot function size: should be 184 bytes |
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| 19:36:04 | dfkt | connected fine on the first try :) |
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| 19:37:32 | dfkt | holding center button shows "bootloader usb mode" and connects fine too |
| 19:37:41 | dfkt | holding left boots OF |
| 19:41:30 | dfkt | 5th connect attempt, all working fine |
| 19:41:44 | dfkt | damn, what will you do now, that there's no more USB to fix? ;) |
| 19:45:06 | funman | break it again when we merge the ipod nano2g and amsv2 code |
| 19:45:12 | dfkt | heh |
| 19:45:39 | bertrik | I wonder if any USB problems we've seen were purely driver problems, or if there is some other issue. |
| 19:45:50 | bertrik | For example, I've seen weird stuff on disconnect, aborts, etc. |
| 19:45:53 | lebellium | hello kugel: what has been decided regarding the ROM? Our modded fw 2.30 cannot be the official RB loader? |
| 19:47:46 | funman | bertrik: i've seen aborts too on the clip zip |
| 19:48:17 | 5EXAAM35L | New commit by funman (r31379): mkamsboot: don't boot OF when USB is plugged ... |
| 19:48:22 | 5EXAAM35L | New commit by funman (r31380): mkamsboot: update README |
| 19:49:06 | lebellium | bertrik and funman: after loading my theme, the WPS can never load properly the first time, have to turn the Zip off and turn it on again. Did you notice that? Any clue? |
| 19:49:20 | funman | so all AMSv2 were tested, except the clipv2. |
| 19:50:17 | funman | lebellium: didn't notice as i don't change the theme often |
| 19:50:25 | 5EXAAM35L | r31379 build result: All green |
| 19:50:40 | funman | dfkt: do you have a clipv2? i only see sideral and labmda listed on http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/RockboxTesting |
| 19:50:42 | gevaerts | desowin: I've now tried to get battery_bench results twice. This mr500 seems to always shut down after one to two hours, with the battery still providing more than enough power, no idea why... |
| 19:51:00 | gevaerts | desowin: also, USB seems to be broken these days, even with this two day old build |
| 19:51:13 | gevaerts | So if I were you I wouldn't worry too much about it |
| 19:51:40 | dfkt | funman, no only clipv1 |
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| 19:52:28 | 5EXAAM35L | r31380 build result: All green |
| 19:52:31 | funman | i would like to send a batch of AMSv2 bootloaders to Bagder but we need to test it |
| 19:53:21 | dfkt | you could post a bootloader in the clipv2 thread on abi, i'm sure someone would volunteer |
| 19:53:36 | funman | also what is the version number now? |
| 19:54:17 | dfkt | my mkamsboot version number? |
| 19:54:30 | funman | no the bootloader one |
| 19:54:43 | funman | now it would be 4.0 |
| 19:54:49 | funman | current one is 3.0 |
| 19:55:02 | dfkt | yes, from august |
| 19:59:14 | dfkt | added the clip zip (and myself) to http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/RockboxTesting |
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| 20:02:53 | funman | http://people.videolan.org/~funman/m30pa.bin.zip : patched firmware with bootloader 4.0 (r31380) |
| 20:03:48 | dfkt | funman, one thing i notice on the clip+ (with normal usb connect, not center button), is that the battery doesn't show charging in the default status bar |
| 20:03:57 | funman | dfkt: should i write in "Rockbox: Clipv2" or make a new thread? |
| 20:04:21 | dfkt | hmm, as you like - the clipv2 never got much activity |
| 20:04:39 | funman | dfkt: i think you should ask JdGordon , the theme i have on clip zip show the moving bar |
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| 20:05:31 | dfkt | last post in the sticky clipv2 thread was in april |
| 20:05:56 | dfkt | funman, i'll put the new bootloader on my zip and check battery animation there |
| 20:06:56 | funman | ok, done |
| 20:07:20 | funman | Bagder: can i send you 3 new bootloaders to put on the server? and probably another one in a few days when it's tested |
| 20:07:38 | Bagder | sure! |
| 20:08:07 | funman | what do you prefer: .zip or that i put it on my http server? |
| 20:09:20 | Bagder | you can mail me the zip, it'll be handy |
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| 20:12:58 | funman | Bagder: done! |
| 20:13:18 | Bagder | got it |
| 20:14:54 | Bagder | uploaded! |
| 20:15:30 | 5EXAAM35L | New commit by funman (r31381): Tag release v4 of the Sansa AMSv2 bootloaders |
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| 20:19:45 | 5EXAAM35L | New commit by funman (r31382): rbutil: enable clipzip |
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| 20:22:00 | 5EXAAM35L | r31382 build result: All green |
| 20:22:24 | keyb_gr | funman: Your USB-enabled ClipV2 bootloader seems to work fine. |
| 20:22:49 | funman | keyb_gr: great :) |
| 20:24:57 | funman | Bagder: clipv2 bootloader in your inbox |
| 20:25:49 | funman | now we need manual install procedure for the clip zip in the wiki; an entry in MajorChanges for usb |
| 20:26:33 | Bagder | funman: done! |
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| 20:36:33 | desowin | gevaerts: I thought Connect has bad runtime... but the mrobe 500, well, just mere two hours? :O |
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| 20:37:06 | gevaerts | desowin: well, no. The battery still has 80% left or so. I have *no* idea why it stops |
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| 20:38:43 | desowin | gevaerts: maybe it needs calibrating the dangerous and shutoff in powermgmt-mr500.c |
| 20:39:09 | desowin | gevaerts: actually it has dangerous as 3600 and shutoff as 3580, and I think it's pretty high |
| 20:39:28 | gevaerts | The battery_bench logs show 3.9V and higher |
| 20:39:33 | desowin | but 80% according to OF or Rockbox? |
| 20:40:05 | gevaerts | rockbox |
| 20:41:11 | desowin | heh, funny thing, the last_tick in mr500 battery_adc_voltage seems reduntant |
| 20:41:29 | desowin | no idea what it was supposed to do |
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| 20:53:44 | desowin | a*b+neg(b)=a+neg(b) in boolean, will put improvement to udelay while condition in next commit |
| 20:55:24 | n1s | ? |
| 20:55:54 | desowin | n1s: I have reduntant condition in logic expression |
| 20:56:21 | desowin | dunno if compiler picks it up and optimizes |
| 20:58:47 | desowin | but that commit is going to be tommorow, as I have hope that there's runtime improvement as well (some changes in SD code) |
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| 21:04:46 | desowin | well, compiler won't optimize it as one of the variables is volatile |
| 21:05:26 | Torne | volatile only prohibits from eliminating loads and stores, not from optimising the actual computation of the expression |
| 21:05:58 | desowin | oh |
| 21:07:38 | Torne | e.g. if you read a volatile variable, do some math on it, and then do nothing with the result, it's perfectly entitled to eliminate all the math and repalce the line with just a single load that does nothing else |
| 21:08:11 | topik | usb is not quite stable on my clipzip |
| 21:09:04 | topik | using dfkt's bootloader and build r31382, i get a data abort at 300552D8 when plugging in usb while rockbox is running |
| 21:09:18 | remlap | Waiting for my clipzip from Play.com |
| 21:11:44 | remlap | Do you like yours topik hardware wise how does it feel? |
| 21:11:55 | remlap | well built? |
| 21:12:21 | topik | ok built. clip+ feels just a bit sturdier |
| 21:12:51 | topik | perhaps it's the smooth outer shell that feels thinner |
| 21:13:00 | remlap | the free memory card came before the zip typical of Play.com |
| 21:14:07 | topik | plugging in the clipzip while off starts rockbox, shows main menu, shows usb logo and then freezes |
| 21:14:34 | remlap | im happy to run the stock for usb for now really |
| 21:14:40 | remlap | till that bug is perfect |
| 21:14:46 | remlap | is fixed* |
| 21:14:48 | bluebrother | speaking of bootloaders: does anyone know why there isn't a bootloader for the yh-820 available? |
| 21:14:53 | topik | me too, just testing along and providing feedback |
| 21:15:08 | remlap | actually |
| 21:15:14 | remlap | might put some music on the card now |
| 21:15:30 | remlap | before it comes so its on there ready |
| 21:15:52 | topik | after reading funman proclaiming it 'rock solid' |
| 21:17:31 | topik | perhaps it's my clipzip being moody |
| 21:17:38 | topik | getting all kinds of different crashes |
| 21:17:51 | remlap | Never used Rockbox before but I built a VortexBox to rip CD's so may as well rip to FLAC and needed new player to handle them. |
| 21:17:53 | topik | data abort, freeze, garbled screen + freeze |
| 21:18:14 | remlap | looks so much better than stock sansa I've seen on youtube |
| 21:20:50 | keyb_gr | I'm sure someone must have thought about a memory test plugin at some time? Would be helpful in sorting out temperamental hardware. |
| 21:21:21 | remlap | topix what theme do you run? |
| 21:21:51 | remlap | topik what theme do you run? |
| 21:21:55 | topik | dfkt's minimum zip theme |
| 21:22:03 | desowin | isn't it that those data aborts are more due to addressing either non-existent memory or unaligned (when ie. word access)? |
| 21:22:19 | desowin | (rather than faulty SDRAM chip that is) |
| 21:23:02 | remlap | Yeah that's what I've tested with the emulator like it alot |
| 21:23:06 | keyb_gr | #1 rule of bad memory: You never know what'll happen. |
| 21:23:23 | topik | is there any documentation on why rockbox shows the usb logo when plugged in instead of still being able to access the menu ? |
| 21:23:44 | gevaerts | topik: and what would you do with the menu? |
| 21:24:14 | desowin | keyb_gr: and writing memory test plugin would be pain, as it should contain the memory ranger for *all* targets its supposed to run at, you just can't make it much universal |
| 21:24:22 | n1s | keyb_gr: there is a memory test plugin |
| 21:24:31 | topik | select music to play while it charges ? |
| 21:24:49 | n1s | anyway lots of things can cause random crashes and data aborts |
| 21:25:00 | topik | or check battery charging status |
| 21:25:01 | n1s | topik: you can't access the disk while in usb mode |
| 21:25:08 | gevaerts | topik: then hold a button while plugging in |
| 21:26:32 | desowin | actually the test_mem doesn't test all memories available |
| 21:26:39 | topik | thanks for that suggestion gevaerts |
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| 21:26:55 | topik | and i didn't know that n1s |
| 21:26:58 | topik | makes sense |
| 21:27:09 | desowin | but if micro is faulty then it won't help you anyway |
| 21:27:59 | topik | when plugging in my clipzip to usb (not holding buttons) with microsd inserted, i see 2 empty drives in win7. when disconnecting i have to hard-reset the clipzip to get a response again |
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| 21:28:43 | gevaerts | Is HID enabled on AMSv2? |
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| 21:29:16 | topik | not afaik |
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| 21:30:48 | jlbiasini | hello while working on a new bootloaderinstallimx method for rbutil I noticed that the file: rbutil/rbutilqt/base/bootloaderinstallfile.cpp contain 2 times the line: #include <QtDebug> someone with acces to the tree should probably correct that... :) |
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| 21:31:35 | jlbiasini | or am I missing something? |
| 21:32:51 | bluebrother | jlbiasini: no. I'll fix it |
| 21:32:54 | 5EXAAM35L | New commit by gevaerts (r31383): Remove duplicate include. Thanks to Jean-Louis Biasini for spottin this. |
| 21:33:09 | * | gevaerts tells bluebrother to be quicker next time :) |
| 21:33:14 | jlbiasini | lol |
| 21:33:34 | jlbiasini | wow that was fast! |
| 21:33:53 | kugel | Torne: the compiler cannot remove the math. as you said, it must not remove load/stores, that includes math because variables are always in memory. having them in registers is an optimization |
| 21:34:32 | bertrik | I think we've even had triple includes :) |
| 21:34:56 | Torne | ..hrm? yes it can |
| 21:35:06 | 5EXAAM35L | r31383 build result: All green |
| 21:35:22 | Torne | if it's an assignment *to* a volatile it can't not compute the value of the right hand side |
| 21:35:29 | Torne | but if it's any other expression involving a volatile it can |
| 21:35:40 | 5EXAAM35L | New commit by bertrik (r31384): Another round of making local functions static |
| 21:35:42 | kugel | making b volatile is telling the compiler it can have different values in a*b+neg(b) |
| 21:35:49 | Torne | yes |
| 21:35:56 | Torne | but all it has to do is read it from memory twice. |
| 21:36:02 | bluebrother | gevaerts: meh |
| 21:36:20 | Torne | it doesn't have to negate it, or add it to itself, or multiply itby a, unless you assign the result to a volatile variable |
| 21:37:07 | Torne | well, or use it for something else |
| 21:37:29 | 5EXAAM35L | r31384 build result: 0 errors, 4 warnings (bertrik committed) |
| 21:37:55 | kugel | lebellium: nothing is decided |
| 21:38:51 | desowin | Torne: that's assuming the expression is not used at all; so in this particular case it should produce different code as in fact, one of variables inside b is volatile |
| 21:38:57 | kugel | lebellium: the ROM can be official loader if wanted (although I'd like something more rockbox'y). What I want is the tools and instructions to make that rom in SVN |
| 21:40:01 | Torne | desowin: sure; that's what i said |
| 21:46:12 | lebellium | kugel : What do you mean by "more rockboxy"? Lorenzo will give you the package tomorrow max |
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| 21:57:17 | 5EXAAM35L | New commit by bertrik (r31385): Disable unused functions for archos-player in apps/screen_access.c |
| 21:57:45 | kugel | lebellium: perhaps a logo or something |
| 21:58:08 | kugel | how it looks is not important, but it's important for us that we can reproduce it |
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| 21:59:13 | 5EXAAM35L | r31385 build result: All green |
| 21:59:15 | lorenzo92 | kugel: samsung logo is in the bootloader. It is possible to edit it, but NO final user can update MBoot without samsung tool |
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| 22:01:11 | kugel | I meant the USB mode |
| 22:01:17 | kugel | (sorry I wasnt clear) |
| 22:01:23 | lorenzo92 | ah okay :) |
| 22:01:44 | lorenzo92 | yes why not, it's easy after all and yes could be nice ;) |
| 22:05:57 | 5EXAAM35L | New commit by bertrik (r31386): local variable app/gui/icon.c/iconsets can be made static |
| 22:07:48 | 5EXAAM35L | r31386 build result: All green |
| 22:15:47 | dfkt | does the forum have some hiccups? i posted a reply in a thread, and it disappeared |
| 22:16:54 | gevaerts | dfkt: resurected |
| 22:17:03 | dfkt | weird... thanks |
| 22:17:08 | gevaerts | The spam filter has some false positives |
| 22:17:27 | dfkt | oh, now it's double... i fear when i edit it, it disappears again |
| 22:17:38 | gevaerts | Did you try posting twice? |
| 22:17:50 | dfkt | no, i edited the post, then it disappeared |
| 22:18:09 | bluebrother | I've got a PM earlier today from someone complaining that the forum lost 4 messages of him |
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| 22:18:41 | bluebrother | haven't had any issues myself though |
| 22:18:49 | dfkt | maybe the forum didn't like that i edited the post just a few seconds after i posted it? |
| 22:18:55 | gevaerts | bluebrother: It didn't. If it's the thread I'm thinking about, there were at least a dozen :) |
| 22:19:44 | bluebrother | ah, a double-triple-multiple submit click person? |
| 22:20:04 | gevaerts | Yes. Try posting five times or so, and then post seventeen times that you can't post |
| 22:20:23 | gevaerts | Oh well, I guess it does look weird when it happens |
| 22:22:13 | gevaerts | I do have some wishlist things about the spam filter, but I still wouln't want to disable it |
| 22:22:45 | bluebrother | having the rss feed not show up spam messages would be nice :) |
| 22:23:27 | gevaerts | I *think* it only shows them if you have enough permissions |
| 22:23:44 | gevaerts | And I tend to like it that way. The rss feed is one of the main ways I know there's spam :) |
| 22:24:25 | lorenzo92 | just an old feedback, when I posted my first thing on rockbox forum was deleted :) not so nice for a first poster hihi :p |
| 22:24:52 | gevaerts | lorenzo92: the thing is that the things I have in mind as improvements won't help first posters :) |
| 22:25:21 | lorenzo92 | ;) |
| 22:25:46 | gevaerts | It's more that people with 50 posts or so over more than say a month are rather unlikely to be spammers |
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| 22:26:54 | scorche | yeah - it is just a shame that there is no configuration options at all... |
| 22:27:29 | * | gevaerts nods |
| 22:28:15 | gevaerts | Or interaction with other addons. This automerging is fine for regular posts, but I'd prefer it to not merge things that akismet intercepts |
| 22:28:47 | scorche | gevaerts: that in theory could be fixable by wading through the mess of code that is the forums, but i dont recommend it |
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| 22:29:24 | gevaerts | scorche: well, everything is fixable by doing that |
| 22:29:53 | scorche | gevaerts: not really - we have no control over what akismet catches and doesnt catch |
| 22:29:59 | gevaerts | we could (in theory) submit everything to akismet and then auto-rescue things from whitelisted people |
| 22:30:48 | gevaerts | We don't have control over akismet, but we do have control over what we do with its results |
| 22:31:04 | scorche | true... |
| 22:31:56 | gevaerts | Now if Mr Someone had more time... |
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| 22:57:45 | TheLemonMan | hell, got 0xBC09 as nand id but this player has a Samsung nand |
| 22:58:16 | TheLemonMan | i wonder what the dma has done to that value |
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| 23:02:36 | 5EXAAM35L | New commit by wodz (r31387): AGC: respect gain steps defined in audiohw_settings[] |
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| 23:03:51 | jlbiasini | I need to read the first line of a text file in order to autodetect fuze+: can I #include <QTextStream> in rbutil/rbutilqt/base/autodetection.cpp or is it too much for so a basic action... and if so what method should I use? |
| 23:04:27 | 5EXAAM35L | r31387 build result: All green |
| 23:04:54 | TheLemonMan | jlbiasini: istream ? |
| 23:05:23 | jlbiasini | ok I'll will have a look to it then |
| 23:05:35 | jlbiasini | TheLemonMan: thx |
| 23:05:52 | bluebrother | jlbiasini: you should be able to use QFile and readLine() |
| 23:06:28 | bluebrother | TheLemonMan: we're using Qt, so mixing in STL might not be the best solution |
| 23:06:53 | bluebrother | jlbiasini: in base/, you can use everything from QtCore. |
| 23:07:37 | jlbiasini | bluebrother: that's what I wanted to do but I thought I'll need QTextStream for that ;) If not then even better! |
| 23:07:51 | bluebrother | oh, just noticed that QFile doesn't have readLine() |
| 23:08:07 | TheLemonMan | oh i taught it was the other way round, using qt to do file io |
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| 23:14:11 | bluebrother | jlbiasini: that's interesting. In RockboxInfo() a function QFile::readLine() is used, but the documentation of QFile doesn't tell about it. |
| 23:14:26 | bluebrother | or I'm failing to see that in the docs |
| 23:14:47 | bluebrother | either case, since it's used there it should work in your case as well :) |
| 23:15:57 | bluebrother | at least my memory wasn't fooling me too much :) |
| 23:16:38 | funman | bertrik: i think we should make a new mkamsboot release |
| 23:16:40 | jlbiasini | bluebrother: actually it seems that readline() is in QIODevice and therefore in qfile... if i get it correctly.... |
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| 23:17:22 | bluebrother | yes. |
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| 23:17:41 | * | bluebrother is a bit tired and therefore somewhat slow right now |
| 23:17:52 | jlbiasini | ok so problem solve thanks |
| 23:24:19 | funman | kugel: can you have a look at FS #12461 ? it shows a malloc error |
| 23:24:20 | fs-bluebot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12461 sansa clip+: usb does not work at all. (bugs, unconfirmed) |
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| 23:47:57 | jlbiasini | interesting: Fuze+ get autodetected with usb anyway #imstupid! |
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