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#rockbox log for 2011-12-25

00:00:02amiconnOr raxa ;)
00:02:02kugelsaratoga: perhaps a bug in vlc...but it can play it (showing unknown length)
00:02:26kugeltotem also detects the length fine
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00:03:01saratoganls or buschel might know more about that then I
00:05:00amiconnQuite powerful cpu - should be able to play all ape compression levels (with armv6 asm enabled)
00:13:29CIA-88New commit by kugel (r31426): ypr0: Add variables to provide a argv and stdout/err redirection for running Rockbox to the loader script.
00:15:28CIA-88r31426 build result: All green
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00:22:32kugelamiconn: RexA. Rockbox exclusive application :)
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00:24:37kugelnow I have 40% CPU usage with the same file as a few hours ago
00:26:01itoikenzaAny body care to tell me if doom is worth looking for instead of freedoom?
00:28:51itoikenzaId get it if i could play custom music.
00:29:49*gevaerts thinks that *no* version of doom is worth looking at on a DAP
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09:53:24kugelfunman: ping
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10:15:15bug2000funman, pong
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12:08:11lovasoakugel: I packed a firmware with your tools
12:08:30lovasoaAnd it doesn't mount the SD card by default
12:09:02lovasoaI had to add "mount -t vfat blablah" to
12:12:42lovasoakugelp: And the ".svn" folders should be ignored while building the firmware
12:14:02kugelp.svn is ignored isnt it?
12:15:01lovasoaI can see ".svn" folders in the rockbox file browser...
12:15:05kugelpcp -r dir/* doesn't copy dot-dirs
12:15:32lovasoaI'm just telling you what I see...
12:15:52kugelpanyway use git :p
12:16:23lovasoaAnd I have ubuntu, and the scripts were executed with dash, not bash. Maybe the problem comes from here...
12:17:16lovasoaAnd can I switch to git without having to download the all tree again and wipe my build dirs...
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13:22:56kugellovasoa: not sure what to do about microsd. we probably want to do it within rockbox to support hotswap. I'm actually surprised its not automounted
13:23:34kugelyou can add that mount line to a rc.user file in the root
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14:12:23kugelplorenzo92: Hey. I managed battery voltage reading
14:12:31lorenzo92I kugel: yeah!
14:12:39lorenzo92kugel: how? ascodec registers?
14:14:06kugelpascodec_readbytes is indeed broken
14:14:50lorenzo92ah ok
14:15:24lorenzo92when you want me test the patch, just ask :)
14:16:33lorenzo92kugel: by the way, we miss automatic sd card mounting...I saw also lovasoa reported it ;)
14:18:01kugelpI wonder why the kernel doesn't auto mount
14:19:16lorenzo92no idea, but I guess it should not do it either, or?
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14:21:38lovasoaIsn't it as simple as adding an udev rule?
14:22:43lorenzo92uhm...don't know but for sure we need to place a button in rockbox to do the sync + umount before the ejecting it...
14:23:07lorenzo92OF doesn't write on it, so it just controls the mount
14:23:49lorenzo92kugel: how is the sd managed in other rb devices?
14:24:07lovasoaOF can write on it
14:24:21lovasoaIt offers the ability to delete files on the SD
14:24:29lorenzo92uhm you're right!
14:24:53lorenzo92but then how does it control the sd caching....bah!
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14:32:13kugelplorenzo92: what SD caching?
14:32:30lorenzo92kugel: I mean the linux file system cache...
14:34:08lorenzo92i.e. you need to "sync" to actually write things on disks...,
14:34:09kugelpI think Linux does it alone
14:34:37lorenzo92yes but we need to do it before eject the sd card! Otherwise we get data cirruption..
14:34:56Lalufudepends. you can mount file systems without caching (implicit sync)
14:35:09Lalufusome distributions do that automatically for external storage
14:35:11Lalufusome don't
14:36:00lorenzo92Lalufu: ah! so it is possible to do this easily...that's nice, it would solve a "big" problem
14:37:54LalufuGUI based distributions usually show an 'eject storage' button, like windows.
14:38:09lorenzo92yes yes I know it ;)
14:38:14Lalufuif you're mucking around on the CLI I'd expect you to know what you're doing.
14:38:39lorenzo92i'm running kubutu, but usually it's better to use the sync button for large files :D
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14:40:01lorenzo92kugelp: how did you achieve battery monitoring? Did you exploit the already done driver?
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14:57:54jlbiasinipamaury: according to this site they tested 20h58 with mp3 on fuze+ (
15:00:30jlbiasiniIt's just incredible the number of review that just take the values of the manufacturer as plain truth. Quite a good criterium to find out real serious review throught ~ 1/10!
15:02:02kugelplorenzo92: I can post a patch this evening. I also implemented charger detection
15:02:52lorenzo92kugelp: okay great! :)
15:02:55lovasoakugelp: congratulation! But why don't you directly release your update on the svn?
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15:08:09kugelplovasoa: because I'm not done yet, and not at home
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15:41:48lovasoaDo your rockbox simulators work?
15:41:50lovasoaMine segfaults when audio starts
15:41:54lovasoaI get
15:41:56lovasoaProgram received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
15:41:58lovasoa[Switching to Thread 0x7ffff47e8700 (LWP 29790)]
15:42:00lovasoa0x00007ffff76c6ad3 in ?? () from /usr/lib/
15:42:02lovasoa(gdb) bt
15:42:04lovasoa#0 0x00007ffff76c6ad3 in ?? () from /usr/lib/
15:42:06lovasoa#1 0x00007ffff76ccb18 in ?? () from /usr/lib/
15:42:08DBUGEnqueued KICK lovasoa
15:42:08lovasoa#2 0x00007ffff77127b7 in ?? () from /usr/lib/
15:42:10lovasoa#3 0x00007ffff76cc705 in ?? () from /usr/lib/
15:42:12***Alert Mode level 1
15:42:12lovasoa#4 0x00007ffff77103e9 in ?? () from /usr/lib/
15:42:14lovasoa#5 0x00007ffff74a7efc in start_thread ()
15:42:16lovasoa from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/
15:42:18lovasoa#6 0x00007ffff71e289d in clone () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/
15:42:20lovasoa#7 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
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17:06:15oxmando you know why "install bootloader" is disabled on rockbox utility for a sansa clip zip ?
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17:46:54CIA-88New commit by bertrik (r31427): FS #12482 - Romanian language update by Sergiu Rotaru
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17:48:57CIA-88r31427 build result: All green
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17:57:28pamauryok, the fuze+ battery hold 16h40 but without rtc it's probably not too precise
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18:08:03bertriknot bad at all, I suppose
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18:54:56kugellorenzo92: ping
18:56:18kugelthere's a problem with the storage_idle_func system when !USING_STORAGE_IDLE_CALLBACK
18:56:47kugelgevaerts: ^ (and whoever else is interested in that area)
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19:07:43kugelhm, nevermind
19:08:12lorenzo92kugel: I'll back in 10 minutes...
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19:20:10lorenzo92kugel: ping
19:20:56kugellorenzo92: ping
19:21:18lorenzo92kugel: okay so what's the issue you found?
19:23:11CIA-88New commit by kugel (r31428): ypr0: Remove last #ifdef in as3514. ...
19:23:18CIA-88New commit by kugel (r31429): ypr0: Fix ascodec_readbytes().
19:23:21kugellorenzo92: data was written at the wrong location
19:23:33lorenzo92kugel: ah! ok ;)
19:23:47kugeldata[index], data[index+1], ..
19:24:10kugelbut the index is only for ascodec_read(). for data you need [0], [1], ...
19:24:22lorenzo92kugel: ahhh! okay ;) by the way, there is another SAMSUNG_YPR0 define in as3514.h, did you notice it?
19:24:51CIA-88r31428 build result: All green
19:25:06lorenzo92kugel: go to export/as3514.h
19:25:29kugelI'm there
19:25:54lorenzo92search for SAMSUNG_YPR0
19:26:00kugeldid that :)
19:26:10lorenzo92ok, remove it...
19:26:18kugelit's not there
19:26:30kugelare you refering pre-r31428 ?
19:26:38lorenzo92yep probably :)
19:26:56CIA-88r31429 build result: All green
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19:27:15lorenzo92no matter then ;)
19:28:07kugellorenzo92: patch for voltage reading, charger detection and enabling battery_bench.rock
19:28:49lorenzo92yeah great, I've tried to times, trying to to these things :D
19:29:00kugelbattery_bench will help us to get accurate voltages->battery% conversion
19:29:51kugeloh but it won't be able to save the log file. it writes to /battery_bench :)
19:29:58lorenzo92ops :)
19:30:22lorenzo92we could modify the plugin to point to .rockbox instead....
19:31:24kugelyea, but that's not nice
19:32:08kugelI don't like /Playlists too
19:32:16lorenzo92me too indeed...
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19:59:12funmankugel: pong
19:59:14funmanbug2000: pong
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20:01:30lorenzo92kugel: patch tested. Great work :)
20:05:15kugelfunman: the ADC register defines for as3543 are wrong
20:06:18kugelfunman: that explains the comment about ADC_BATTERY in as3525/powermgmt-target.h
20:10:06kugelhit the same problem on the ypr0 and found that as3543 as changed adc channels
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20:11:15lorenzo92well on R0 there is just one adc channel that indicates the batt voltage, one refers to charger voltage and another I guess the main system voltage
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20:12:28kugellorenzo92: that's only what afe shows. all channels from as3543 are available through ioctl() I expect
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20:14:00lorenzo92kugel: not sure if they are available using ioctls from afe.ko....anyway what's the problem with the current implementation? anyway brb :)
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20:17:45kugellorenzo92: I mean via ascodec
20:18:05kugelwhat do you mean with "prolem with current implementation"=
20:18:58kugelafe shows only a few voltages via sysfs-interface, but all should be available through ioctl()
20:20:54bug2000funman, It seems to not crash with pacman theme.
20:26:22lorenzo92kugel: ah ok now I got it ... yeah maybe in the adc intercace there are not all the channels...
20:27:56funmanbug2000: so the problem is in the theme?
20:28:46bug2000funman, I guess. But dfkt says he got no problem. The problem also appeard on 3.10 it wasn't there on 3.9
20:29:32funmankugel: yep we should probably have 2 lists of input channels
20:29:42funmanbug2000: no problem with the same theme?
20:30:07bug2000funman, dfkt only uses HIS themes so yeah.
20:30:23bug2000then again, he made an awesome one for the clip, so I can understand him.
20:33:21funmanbug2000: ask JdGordon_ ,neither dfkt neither me work on the skins/theme code
20:37:16saratogaif it started with 3.10, maybe its due to the new buflib changes
20:43:15kugellorenzo92: I don't think the regs/subregs/adc-channels are restricted in afe.ko
20:43:48lorenzo92kugel: regs for sure arent!
20:43:59lorenzo92why should them be restricted?
20:44:15kugeldon't know :)
20:44:28funmankugel: #ifdef HAVE_AS3543 .... #else /* as3514 */ .... #endif for all input ?
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20:58:00kugelfunman: think so
21:08:59kugellorenzo92: I solved battery-bench problem. also /Playlists in the root is unecessary now
21:09:35lorenzo92you did a redirection in rb?
21:09:49kugelwhat do you mean?
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21:10:11kugelI'll commit shortly then you can see
21:11:20CIA-88New commit by kugel (r31430): rbpaths: Add new special dir HOME_DIR for RaaA. ...
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21:13:20CIA-88r31430 build result: All green
21:13:52kugelBTW, with this commit, I think we could/should make the rockbox dir on android hidden
21:16:40CIA-88New commit by kugel (r31431): Unify a bit.
21:18:33CIA-88r31431 build result: All green
21:24:20lorenzo92kugel: okay. So this will be valid also for .rockbox folder? no need to place it in rom?
21:26:16lorenzo92kugel: ah okay I read the comment ^^
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21:47:49saratogafunman: do you mind if I tag a clip zip bootloader?
21:48:58funmansaratoga: why?
21:49:04saratogawe should release one
21:49:08saratogaso that rbutil works
21:49:13funmandone already
21:49:16saratogaoh is it?
21:49:57funmani made the rbutil changes too
21:50:08funmani think what we need now is a mkamsboot binary release
21:50:13saratogafunman: we already have a v4 bootloader
21:50:30saratogai guess this should be v5?
21:50:37saratogaor maybe v1 if we're going to start over for the zip
21:50:53funmanit was amsv1-v4 i guess
21:51:05saratogaunfortunately thats for the clip+
21:51:18funmansaratoga: hm
21:51:20saratogacan we just rename it?
21:51:41funmani checked the release number of the files on the server and it was v3
21:52:02saratogav3 is the highest for the Fuzev2, but the clip+ needed another release due to a new hardware revision
21:52:03funmani probably didnt check clip+
21:52:21saratogawe didn't want to release a new fuze bootloader since the old one still worked fine
21:52:38funmanso it means the old clip+ bootloader was v4 and the new one is v4 too?
21:53:03funmani'd say let's ignore this subtelty, both clip+ v4 work fine
21:53:12saratogais it hard to rename that branch? if so I guess it doesn't matter if the versioning is weird
21:53:23funmanand we should be done for the bootloaders (unless we see new HW revisions / models)
21:53:32saratogadoesn't the new one have bootloader USB mode ?
21:54:06saratogai guess it'll be obvious enough whats installed since the old one will boot into the sandisk firmware
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21:54:42saratogafunman: "svn move https://server/repos/myrepo/branches/oldbranch https://server/repos/myrepo/branches/newbranch"
21:54:50saratogaseems like that would fix this?
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21:55:15funmani dont really know svn
21:55:24funmanshould work
21:55:38funmanwe'll need to make new binary bootloaders with version set to 5.0 also
21:55:57saratogadid you already upload the v4 ones?
21:56:06funmanwell Bagder did
21:56:08saratogafor clip+ too?
21:56:19funmanfor all amsv2
21:56:26saratogaoh so rbutil is working now?
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21:56:38funmanrbutil from svn yes
21:57:25saratogaok then its not worth trying to fix this
21:57:37saratogait'll be obvious if someone has the old v4 bootloader since it has no USB
21:57:37kugellorenzo92: we don't necessarily need the rockbox folder in the root, but it's convinient
21:57:53funmansaratoga: yeah l'ets not waste time
21:58:17saratogaah current rbutil does have the Zip in
21:58:22saratogaso we're basically good to go
21:58:46saratogasomeone on ABI pointed out that we have not updated mkamsboot in ages, i don't suppose you know how to make that for Windows?
22:01:38saratogai'm not sure what to make of FS #12484
22:01:39fs-bluebot [Fuze+] Shuffle doesn't works when playing tracks from "Files" (bugs, unconfirmed)
22:01:39funmani do
22:01:59funmanmake CROSS=i586-mingw32msvc or something
22:02:00saratogawhen you get a chance would you upload a binary? the current one also has trouble with some clip+ firmwares as well
22:02:11funmanwe need to tag a release
22:02:37saratogai hate tags
22:03:33funmanlet's wait git
22:03:45saratogano i'll have to learn that
22:03:52saratogamy brain can't handle git versioning
22:04:08saratogai can tag mkamsboot now, i see the instructions on the wiki
22:04:09funmansoon it will don't worry ^^
22:04:41CIA-88New commit by kugel (r31432): Fix missing include.
22:05:29saratogafunman: do we need to tag mkamsboot actually? isn't it the same tag as the bootloader we released?
22:05:43saratogaor i guess we do them separately just to be extra clear
22:06:03funmanyeah let's do them separately
22:07:24CIA-88r31432 build result: All green
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22:08:16CIA-88New commit by saratoga (r31433): Tag mkamsboot version 1.5. New version adds support for the Clip Zip and some newer Clip+ firmwares.
22:09:25kugelis it actually tested?
22:09:35kugelon windows, mac, etc?
22:09:50saratogait is on Linux, probably not windows or mac though
22:09:59kugelwhy tag it alraedy thene?
22:10:04kugelalready* then*
22:10:21funmani can test the tag on mac and windows
22:10:37saratogai don't expect that just adding a few new hashes breaks anything, but i guess we should have tested more then just linux
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22:11:07*kugel thinks we shouldnt carelessly tag releases of critial tools
22:11:22funmankugel: nobody is building from tags anyway
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22:11:50kugelarent the downloadable binaries build from tags?
22:12:08funmani build from HEAD then tag HEAD usually
22:12:21kugelthat is fine
22:12:21funmanand yeah it's just some C code change
22:12:42funmanif we have to test binaries to avoid unlikely compiler bugs, it won't matter for the tag
22:12:48kugeltagging and then building&testing is the other way around
22:13:14saratogacan't you check out a tag and update it if you need to?
22:13:41kugelsaratoga: no
22:13:43kugelthat's branches
22:14:00saratogaah ok
22:14:01kugelfunman: I don't talk about mkamsboot specifically
22:14:37funmanit s just bikeschedding
22:14:47funmanmkamsboot works
22:15:05saratogaget bagder to upload it
22:15:06funmani will confirm that by doing boring steps on osx and windows before sending binaries to badger
22:15:25funmansaratoga: didnt build it yet
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22:25:20funmanwon't do it before a few days at least unless one of yo ubeats me to it
22:26:43lovasoaI reported a bug about .ape files. If it interests anyone:
22:34:09gevaertsWell, technically you *can* update tagged versions. svn treats tags and branches the same way
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23:14:58jlbiasiniHello I'm going on with the fuze+ manual. I think that we already have image for the fuze+. But I can't recall who has them. I would be useful for me to have them in the svn :)
23:15:42gevaertsDo we have svg images of it yet?
23:18:38jlbiasiniI think so.. Someone with an imprononciable pseudo starting with d like dfkt or something like that told me so...
23:19:02*gevaerts only saw pngs
23:19:36jlbiasiniwell he didn't say if those where svg that's right...
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23:22:38jlbiasinieven pngs aren't in the svn anyway...
23:23:44gevaertsThe only thing I see in svn is the simulator bitmap
23:27:37jlbiasiniyes. Is there someone doing the image or do I also have to provide them?
23:28:11gevaertsNo idea
23:30:38jlbiasiniI have to wait untill this dfkt show up again! Anyway I have plenty to do in the meantime :D
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