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00:32:12 | webguest30 | Question: I am at the point where the Rockbox utility is telling me that I have to provide the path to the .bin firmware for my Sansa Clip+. It says that I have to provide the original firmware. My question is do I need to provide the original firmware or can I provide the very latest Sansa Clip+ firmware that was released by Sandisk? |
00:32:48 | bertrik | you can use the very latest sansa clip+ firmware as far as I know |
00:32:54 | [Saint] | That *is* the Original Firmware as we refer to it. |
00:33:02 | gevaerts | webguest30: "original firmware" means "firmware as released by the manufacturer". It doesn't have to be the oldest one or anything like that |
00:33:13 | webguest30 | damnit |
00:33:29 | webguest30 | I humbly suggest that the wording be changed |
00:33:48 | [Saint] | It doesn't mean "exactly the same as you had" but rather "came from Sandisk, unmodified" |
00:33:49 | webguest30 | "the original" means to me "original firmware version" |
00:34:10 | webguest30 | like the original shipping version |
00:34:39 | [Saint] | So you can both upgrade the original firmware, and install Rockbox at the same time. |
00:35:28 | gevaerts | We've used that terminology for nearly a decade now. I don't remember any confusion about it during at least the last few years |
00:35:31 | webguest30 | i guess by original i was assuming temporarly original, that manufacture specific |
00:36:18 | webguest30 | i mean "original" temporaly as in time wise, the first to be released not "original" in the sense as manufacture provided |
00:36:50 | webguest30 | im still not clear let me think about how to word this properly |
00:37:54 | webguest30 | I was confused by the word "original" which I understood as original in the sense of time, the first shipping firmware version and not "original" in the sense of provided by manufacturer |
00:38:22 | [Saint] | For what its worth, this is the first time I've personally seen someone ask that question. |
00:38:44 | webguest30 | well you answered my question |
00:38:50 | [Saint] | But, if you can think of a wording that is more clear, go for it by all means. |
00:39:02 | webguest30 | let me think |
00:39:32 | webguest30 | okay I got it |
00:40:25 | webguest30 | "Bootloader installation requires that you provide a copy of an original Sandisk firmware (.bin file)" |
00:40:42 | webguest30 | change "the" to "an" |
00:41:04 | Torne | it's not really "an", though. it's "the one you want to have on your player" |
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00:41:26 | Torne | you can only use just any random one if you don't ever intend to run it :) |
00:41:31 | [Saint] | I was just thinking how to say that.. |
00:42:03 | webguest30 | "Bootloader installation requires that you provide a copy of the latest original Sandisk firmware (.bin file)" |
00:42:14 | Torne | The latest one is also not guaranteed t work :) |
00:42:16 | [Saint] | But that's incorrect. |
00:42:21 | webguest30 | damnit |
00:42:37 | Torne | The latest one may be newer than what we've tested, and we only allow install with tested builds to prevent people bricking their devices |
00:42:38 | gevaerts | Considering the *very* low amount of confusion we have with the current wording, I'd be *very* wary of changing it |
00:42:54 | Torne | and it doesn't *have* to be the latest one; |
00:42:57 | [Saint] | Even if it does, it doesn't need to be the latest :) |
00:43:42 | webguest30 | "Bootloader installation requires that you provide a copy of a Rockbox supported original Sandisk firmware (.bin file)" |
00:45:56 | webguest30 | well you answered my question anyway |
00:46:09 | webguest30 | i wont anymore pedantic about this |
00:46:12 | webguest30 | merry xmas to all |
00:46:22 | webguest30 | thank you for your help |
00:46:36 | webguest30 | cya |
00:46:43 | webguest30 | great software |
00:46:47 | webguest30 | put it on your resumes |
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00:46:55 | gevaerts | Thanks, and merry christmas :) |
00:48:46 | TheSeven | "Seems like some drunk developer included the directories "MUSIC" as well as "Playlists" in the tool "diskcleaner" within the latest Rockbox release for iPod classic 6G. Awesome shit, now all my music and playlists have been deleted." - from the freemyipod ML |
00:49:56 | [Saint] | Bwahaha! |
00:50:33 | [Saint] | "Seems you have a problem working our fine product, if you'll kindly read the..." |
00:50:59 | bertrik | Is it true, does disktidy delete those? |
00:51:19 | gevaerts | svn blame seems to point at funman |
00:51:25 | [Saint] | Is *anything* enabled by default? I thought not. |
00:51:56 | * | TheSeven blame seems to point at the user |
00:52:02 | [Saint] | You can select groups, if its enabled by default...definite problem. |
00:52:38 | gevaerts | I think those sansa directories should only ever be autoremoved if they're empty |
00:52:43 | TheSeven | this guy is definitely not unknown :) |
00:53:02 | TheSeven | and the behavior actually smells like a completely trashed filesystem and possibly even broken hdd |
00:53:32 | * | gevaerts is in favour of reverting that commit |
00:53:49 | TheSeven | from what I know, he has rolled over an ipod with a truck at least once in the past (that mainboard looked really nice afterwards) |
00:54:41 | gevaerts | TheSeven: maybe, but if you enable all in disktidy these days, it *will* remove MUSIC |
00:54:57 | [Saint] | ? If its set up correctly, it should allow the user to choose specific groups to be deleted, and I believe, even pick and choose from the directories to remove no? |
00:55:03 | Torne | that does seem like a nasty configuration |
00:55:07 | Torne | sure, peple should check |
00:55:09 | Torne | but they won't |
00:55:11 | Torne | so.. |
00:55:23 | * | TheSeven just tried it, and that UI isn't really intuitive |
00:55:36 | gevaerts | [Saint]: it allows specifying groups, yes, but until recently "all" was safe for most people |
00:55:50 | TheSeven | it took me a couple of clicks to realize that these folders (which are displayed inline with the other elements) are actually their parent groups |
00:55:56 | TheSeven | and that this green thing means that something is selected |
00:56:14 | TheSeven | and yeah, "all" is pretty much dangerous now |
00:56:35 | [Saint] | If you're not careful. |
00:56:52 | [Saint] | So...that's a major part of the users ;) |
00:57:08 | Torne | i think we should revert that asap |
00:57:16 | gevaerts | Doing this sort of thing every few months will encourage people to have decent backups of course, but we shouldn't leave it in for too long |
00:57:17 | Torne | if the disktidy UI made it more clear, it might be ok |
00:57:26 | Torne | but it really doesn't from what i recall :) |
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00:57:54 | TheSeven | actually if I enter that menu, everything seems to be pre-selected :/ |
00:57:54 | TheSeven | MUSIC/Playlists should certainly not be included in ALL, even with a better UI |
00:58:26 | Torne | We should, generally, not encourage deletion of OF-created files in the first place, i think |
00:58:29 | Torne | because it's a losing battle |
00:58:36 | * | gevaerts nods |
00:58:40 | Torne | almost everyone dual boots sometimes, even if only by mistake |
00:58:54 | Torne | maybe we should just make it more obvious that the best thing is to hide them |
00:59:12 | Torne | disktidy for stuff that host PCs create over USB MSC is great |
00:59:16 | gevaerts | We should add "hide" to the context menu in the file browser |
00:59:19 | [Saint] | Simple, run disk-tidy with autorock :) |
00:59:22 | Torne | because we can reliably detect that stuff |
00:59:25 | bertrik | we've had numerous questions about the ##MUSIC# directories on AMS, with some people even thinking it was a rockbox problem |
00:59:31 | Torne | and it's virtually guaranteed not to be meaningful |
00:59:45 | Torne | bertrik: sure, but we can't just get rid of it; it may contain the users' files |
00:59:53 | Torne | feel free to virtualise the FS to fix it :p |
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01:00:07 | bertrik | Torne, I agree |
01:00:50 | [Saint] | I don't see anything wrong with adding these dies to a new group...but just not it "all". |
01:00:56 | [Saint] | *in |
01:01:02 | * | TheSeven just realized that deleting disktidy.config isn't an appropriate way to reset it to its default settings |
01:01:48 | [Saint] | The ui for disktidy is *really* bad with icons off though, iirc. That could do with fixing. |
01:02:49 | TheSeven | hm, this has been in there for almost 2 weeks now |
01:03:16 | [Saint] | There's another plugin that deals with that in a similar way, the shopper plugin. That used to be unusable with no icons but it ignores that setting now I believe. |
01:03:18 | Torne | sure, but i don;t think a large proportion of users use disktidy |
01:03:30 | CIA-88 | New commit by gevaerts (r31434): Revert r31239 and r31250. Selecting ALL in disktidy used to be generally safe for most people, and these changes change that, making it easy to delete ... |
01:03:34 | Torne | so the lack of loud shouting is not necessarily an incidation that it's not a problem :) |
01:04:38 | [Saint] | Thinking about it...isn't it pretty obvious "all" will delete your shit? |
01:04:44 | gevaerts | no |
01:04:54 | [Saint] | It seems so to me. |
01:05:11 | Torne | i have used it on "all" before many times :) |
01:05:12 | gevaerts | Disktidy is about removing unneeded files, not about removing everything |
01:05:24 | Torne | but, yaknow, not recently |
01:05:28 | Torne | or i would've yelled by now |
01:05:28 | Torne | :) |
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01:06:16 | [Saint] | I argue the groups are for unneeded files, all is for everything. And people were using "all" in a broken way. |
01:06:24 | gevaerts | They weren't |
01:06:40 | [Saint] | Not to be an ass either, I actually believe it too! ;) |
01:06:41 | gevaerts | All is for "all categories of unneeded files" |
01:06:43 | Torne | that seems useless |
01:06:55 | Torne | a plugin thta deletes everything is not tidying the disk :) |
01:06:59 | gevaerts | Disktidy is *explicitely* *only* for unneeded files |
01:07:47 | [Saint] | Which is everything except /.rockbox |
01:08:00 | gevaerts | Why do you need .rockbox? |
01:08:20 | gevaerts | If there's no audio on the thing, surely having the bootloader tell you it can't boot is fine? |
01:09:24 | [Saint] | Perhaps if all it did was play audio. |
01:09:58 | gevaerts | What more *useful* things does it do? |
01:10:23 | [Saint] | Duh...a little thing called Doom? |
01:10:27 | [Saint] | ;) |
01:11:14 | [Saint] | Its not solely an audio player, is my point. And those things don't care as long as the rockbox folder is intact. |
01:11:29 | gevaerts | The manual says "Disk Tidy deletes junk files commonly left behind by Windows, Linux and OS X after connecting your player over USB" |
01:11:39 | gevaerts | I think that's reasonably clear |
01:11:52 | gevaerts | "All: selects all Linux, OS X, and Windows files" |
01:12:27 | [Saint] | That can include Music and Playlists. Windows media adds these iirc. |
01:12:57 | * | gevaerts wonders if [Saint] noticed the fourth word in that description |
01:13:22 | Torne | it means files added *as a side effect of connecting them* |
01:13:32 | Torne | not files added by programs which are *explicitly intended to put stuff on the device* :) |
01:14:50 | [Saint] | Right, but it may not have any audio or playlists in it. The failure I suppose is to not prompt if this dir is non-empty, not it being in all. |
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01:16:58 | gevaerts | I don't object to removing *empty* directories that the OF creates, but removing non-empty directories with user data or removing those same directories on players where the OF *doesn't* create them is wrong |
01:19:31 | TheSeven | maybe there should be two tiers in there, one containing stuff like thumbnail folders that can safely be deleted recursively, and another one that asks for confirmation before deleting folder contents at least |
01:22:50 | [Saint] | "Music" and "Playlists" both exist in another group in disktidy, no? |
01:23:08 | gevaerts | no |
01:23:35 | [Saint] | Hum...I though they were in the Windows group. |
01:23:49 | [Saint] | *thought. |
01:24:11 | gevaerts | desktop.ini, Thumbs.db, Recycled/, $RECYCLE.BIN/, System Volume Information/ |
01:24:15 | Torne | no. only things that are created as a side effect of the normal functioning of the OS are in there |
01:24:25 | gevaerts | That's the lot for windows. The other groups are equivalent |
01:24:30 | Torne | nothing that only comes into existence by an explicit action by the user |
01:24:36 | Torne | no matter waht program that action is in |
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01:30:21 | pixelma | it's also called disktidy bot diskerase |
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01:49:28 | nosa-j | got a latte ipearl for chirstmas :\ now i gota see about runing rockbox on it |
01:49:35 | nosa-j | going to just have to send it back |
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08:53:37 | ze | finally, after many years away, i once again have a rockboxable player (sansa clip+)... now is this the correct place to mention that the rion overlay mentioned on http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/RockboxUtility doesn't actually contain an rbutil ebuild? seems to be some .hg/[...]/rbutil/*.i but not the actual files, unless my synch failed? |
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09:27:36 | mystica555_ | ze: i think you'd find the maintainer of the rion overlay and ask what's wrong with the overlay; i see the file in the mercurial metadata store (.hg/) but not an actual ebuild. |
09:27:58 | ze | mystica555_: ok, thanks |
09:28:16 | mystica555_ | i doubt said overlay has a direct connection to the rockboxk project.. |
09:28:20 | mystica555_ | *rockbox |
09:28:24 | ze | true |
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09:30:28 | mystica555_ | im now curious why theres 5x the files in the .hg/ dir vs the actual overlay tree dir... |
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10:36:41 | nick_p | I've just realised I forgot to put the FS numbers in my last two commits. For the record, they were: FS #12477 & FS #12338 |
10:36:42 | fs-bluebot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12477 New General Settings submenu: Startup/Shutdown (patches, closed) |
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12:09:22 | fml | nick_p: in what units is user_settings.sleeptimer_duration (in settings.h)? In mnutes? |
12:09:45 | nick_p | fml: yes, minutes |
12:10:31 | fml | I'd commend that since the names in settings and in powermgmt are similar, but the values is multiplied by 60. |
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12:11:41 | nick_p | I added the value in the manual under config file options |
12:11:42 | nick_p | http://download.rockbox.org/daily/manual/rockbox-sansaclipplus/rockbox-buildap4.html#x20-378000D |
12:12:28 | fml | nick_p: I meant in the source code |
12:12:59 | fml | Otherwise I find the two patches excellent! |
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12:13:44 | nick_p | fml: thanks! |
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12:14:59 | fml | nick_p: BTW: wouldn't it be a good idea to store the sleep timer in seconds (in apps/settings.h)? The values is formatted with a custom formatter so it should not be a problem. |
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12:15:47 | nick_p | fml: it's a historical value in settings now though... |
12:17:30 | fml | nick_p: yes, that would be the biggest obstacle to changing it. But the code would be simplified at several places |
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12:26:36 | nanx | hi |
12:27:29 | [Saint] | Hi, if you have a rockbox related question feel free to ask it. |
12:27:47 | nanx | my sansa 260v2 was dead because the scroll function was broken and it was scrolling songs in a very nasty way |
12:28:04 | nanx | but I installed rockbox and not it works perfectly |
12:28:20 | nanx | so I came to say thank you! :) |
12:28:25 | [Saint] | Nice. Good to hear. |
12:28:26 | nanx | now* |
12:28:49 | nanx | I have just one question |
12:29:14 | nanx | I was reading the manual, and it says that 0db is the normal sound level, and any lever other 0db distorts the sound, right? |
12:29:15 | [Saint] | Thanks are always appreciated, so much better than "its broken!" ;) |
12:29:20 | CIA-88 | New commit by alle (r31440): Clarify in what units the settings.sleeptimer_duration is |
12:29:56 | nanx | I am listening audiobooks, and 0db sounds a bit low |
12:30:09 | nanx | is there any way to make it louder? |
12:30:18 | [Saint] | That's correct, it will distort above 0dB. 0dB is line level. |
12:31:29 | CIA-88 | r31440 build result: All green |
12:31:33 | nanx | is there any set of headphones I can buy to make it louder? |
12:31:48 | fml | I wonder how rockbox could repair the scrolling function. If it's a hardware defect, rockbox should be of no help. |
12:31:52 | nanx | I mean, above the normal 0db level, but without distortion |
12:32:02 | nanx | fmk it's a quite funny thing |
12:32:41 | nanx | every time that I run the official firmware, it scrolls the songs and I cannot even play any, because they scroll very fast, without stop |
12:33:10 | nanx | even if I don't push any button |
12:33:21 | nanx | but this is only in the songs menu |
12:33:35 | nanx | everything is absolutely fine in the other menus |
12:34:14 | [Saint] | I was wondering that too fml |
12:34:37 | n1s | nanx: yes, different headphones have different sensitivity and will produce different sound volumes at the same signal level |
12:34:50 | nanx | it cannot be the hardware because then it would do the same in every menu |
12:35:05 | nanx | but it does it only in the "music files" menu |
12:35:22 | n1s | also 0dB *might* distort, if the signal isn't reaching close to the ceiling boosting will not distort |
12:35:24 | nanx | it's like I am moving the wheel, but automatically |
12:35:36 | nick_p | fml: sorry. got someone here at the moment, I'll have a think about it |
12:35:42 | nanx | nls thanks :) |
12:35:55 | n1s | replaygain might help with your audio books as it can add a gain to normalize the volume |
12:36:49 | nanx | thank you |
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12:37:26 | nanx | well, as I was saying, rockbox works perfectly |
12:37:59 | nanx | no scroll problems |
12:38:06 | nanx | just perfect |
12:38:19 | fml | nanx: That's correct! :-) |
12:41:47 | nanx | well, I have to go now, I just wanted to say thanks, I will donate some quid to the proyect |
12:41:56 | nanx | bye! |
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15:21:37 | fml | I think that the declaration of the setting "sleeptimer_duration" in apps/settings_list.c is not quite correct. The min values is specified as 5, but it should be 0 IMO. |
15:26:22 | fml | And I don't quite understand why it's declared in such a complex way when it's set via custom screen (with custom function). |
15:26:31 | fml | kugel: JdGordon_ ^^ |
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16:30:53 | CIA-88 | New commit by jethead71 (r31441): i.MX31: Silly little change to enable/disable a SPI ... |
16:32:58 | CIA-88 | r31441 build result: All green |
16:43:13 | CIA-88 | New commit by jethead71 (r31442): i.MX31: Rename something ... |
16:45:17 | CIA-88 | r31442 build result: All green |
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17:17:14 | batleprogrammer | wow, that's a whole lot of people here |
17:17:21 | batleprogrammer | hello world\n |
17:18:28 | batleprogrammer | Have some quesions about RockChip RK2606A, |
17:19:07 | batleprogrammer | is the development of rockbox discontinued for those? |
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17:20:11 | battleprogrammer | I ask because I recently came across the SDK and firmware editor: http://mympxplayer.org/rockchip-gdk-game-development-kit-df1003.html http://mympxdownloads.com/Downloads/p13_sectionid/2/p13_fileid/31 |
17:21:22 | gevaerts | I'm not sure if anyone has worked on the rockchip tarets recently |
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17:21:53 | battleprogrammer | 8( |
17:22:27 | battleprogrammer | although they are cheap and quite common (IMHO) |
17:23:52 | battleprogrammer | gevaerts How bout this thread? http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,10428.45.html |
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17:24:42 | battleprogrammer | looks like he got RK2705 to work |
17:24:45 | gevaerts | Ah, yes. Forgot about that one |
17:25:03 | battleprogrammer | but 26xx is a totally different story though |
17:25:56 | battleprogrammer | anyway, I just wanted to share those links with you, because I rly love your project. |
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17:44:58 | battleprogrammer | there's even a game disassembler, wow! http://mympxplayer.org/rockchip-game-disassembler-v121-df664.html |
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18:44:09 | lorenzo92 | kugel: i just tested the latest revision that adds the possibility to use the battery_bench plugin...seem to work fine ;) |
18:44:19 | lorenzo92 | kugel: should I do a benchmark? |
18:44:52 | lorenzo92 | kugel: and in case, which file type should I use, or there's a case test or such? ;) |
18:45:55 | CIA-88 | New commit by pamaury (r31444): fuze+: remove two_finger pseudo touchpad button because it was unrealiable, update keymap to remove akward mappings |
18:46:32 | pamaury | arf, I forgot to mention it's from jlbiasini FS #12405... |
18:46:33 | fs-bluebot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12405 Improve touchpad implementation for the fuzeplus's port (patches, unconfirmed) |
18:48:04 | CIA-88 | r31444 build result: All green |
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19:29:16 | lorenzo92 | kugel: okay I've read the plugin's note, so I answered my question :p |
19:32:14 | battleprogrammer | guys, srsly, nobody's interested in rockchips? |
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19:42:57 | jlbiasini | Bagder: could you please add this file http://dl.dropbox.com/u/43468173/sandisk-sansa/fuzeplus/bootloader-fuzeplus.sansa to the server? It is for Rockbox utility to support Fuze+ the code is ready (FS #12402) and just need to have the bootloader on the server to have work. Do you also need other files? |
19:42:58 | fs-bluebot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12402 add mkimxboot as a new method in Rockbox Utility (patches, unconfirmed) |
19:43:29 | gevaerts | jlbiasini: has the source been tagged? |
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19:43:43 | jlbiasini | tagged? |
19:43:47 | gevaerts | in svn |
19:44:26 | funman | jlbiasini: the revision you used for the binary has to be tagged, so we can rebuild the same binary from source |
19:44:38 | jlbiasini | I thought we should first have the bootloader... because else this is not going to work.... |
19:44:58 | jlbiasini | anyway the patch is ready for being commited |
19:45:11 | gevaerts | The rbutil work is unrelated to this |
19:45:53 | jlbiasini | the bootloader come from a bootloader's build from svn sources |
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19:46:15 | gevaerts | Yes, and the exact version used to build it should be tagged |
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19:46:34 | jlbiasini | how can I do that? |
19:46:53 | gevaerts | which revision did you use to build it? |
19:46:58 | jlbiasini | r31443 |
19:47:18 | lorenzo92 | kugel: right now, I was also trying to understand to use the r0Gpio module (useful to know headphone status, or sd inserted or not etc) |
19:47:23 | funman | UsingSVN on the [Dwiki has the details |
19:48:43 | gevaerts | ok, I get the exact same file, so I could do the tagging I guess |
19:49:22 | gevaerts | hm, does this bootloader print its version at some point? |
19:49:53 | jlbiasini | hum I don't know pamaury? |
19:51:05 | jlbiasini | I don't think so |
19:51:27 | pamaury | yes |
19:51:28 | funman | the rockbox logo? |
19:51:31 | pamaury | no |
19:51:55 | gevaerts | pamaury: I think it's best if you do the tagging. You're involved in the port :) |
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19:52:38 | pamaury | I can I do that ? |
19:52:58 | pamaury | *how |
19:53:20 | funman | pamaury: check the wiki |
19:53:35 | jlbiasini | http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/UsingSVN |
19:54:16 | * | funman would like an ipod n ano2g for christmas |
19:54:33 | * | funman and a clipv2 which can't support rockbox |
19:56:15 | pamaury | ok so I just tag a bootloader and with upload the binary for that version right ? |
19:56:28 | pamaury | s/with/we |
19:56:32 | gevaerts | yes |
19:57:08 | pamaury | how do I do that with git svn however ? It doesn't accept the command with just git svn |
19:57:32 | gevaerts | You don't need a local checkout for that command |
19:57:49 | jlbiasini | dfkt: you are the one having image file for the fuze+ manual ain't you? |
19:58:23 | CIA-88 | New commit by pamaury (r31445): Tag release v1 of the Sansa Fuze+ bootloader |
19:59:04 | jlbiasini | \o/ |
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20:00:09 | funman | pamaury: also you need to modify version.sh to just echo 1.0; exit |
20:00:18 | funman | so the binary dont show the rockbox svn rev |
20:00:44 | pamaury | I should have done that before tagging :-/ |
20:00:52 | jlbiasini | bluebrother: can you please commit my patch for the FS #12402 I guess it is ready now |
20:00:54 | fs-bluebot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12402 add mkimxboot as a new method in Rockbox Utility (patches, unconfirmed) |
20:00:55 | gevaerts | Actually, no |
20:01:04 | gevaerts | You build with "make VERSION=1.0" |
20:01:13 | gevaerts | No need to change the file |
20:01:28 | funman | hm nice |
20:01:35 | gevaerts | Well, test it anyway :) |
20:01:42 | gevaerts | hm |
20:02:38 | gevaerts | Well, that changes version.h anyway. but the resulting file doesn't change |
20:02:47 | gevaerts | Are you sure it prints the version? |
20:03:01 | pamaury | I'm pretty sure |
20:03:46 | pamaury | let me check, that would be pointless if it doesn't |
20:03:59 | gevaerts | rather, yes :) |
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20:05:15 | pamaury | hum, in fact I think it doesn't :) |
20:07:41 | jlbiasini | rockbox utility doens't find the file on the server as a matter of fact... |
20:08:00 | gevaerts | jlbiasini: tagging isn't uploading... |
20:08:11 | jlbiasini | ok sorry |
20:08:35 | funman | we could embed gcc in rockbox utility :) |
20:09:09 | pamaury | I'll commit a change to print the bootloader version, do I have to commit this both to the trunk and the tagged branch ? |
20:09:23 | funman | no, commit to trunk and move the tag |
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20:09:47 | pamaury | what do you mean "move the tag" ? |
20:10:26 | pamaury | tag a v1.1 ? |
20:10:47 | funman | delete the tag, make another 1.0; or something |
20:11:53 | battleprogrammer | *sigh* whatever |
20:11:57 | battleprogrammer | goodluck everyone |
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20:12:17 | lorenzo92 | kugel: wuoa I discovered some interesting things to start using the r0gpio module. Still need to test, tough. But I guess it uses a struct similar to afe.ko for the requests |
20:13:30 | CIA-88 | New commit by pamaury (r31446): imx233: print rockbox version in bootloader |
20:15:33 | CIA-88 | r31446 build result: All green |
20:15:50 | pamaury | ok, so now, I have to delete the tag and recreate it |
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20:18:09 | CIA-88 | New commit by pamaury (r31447): Remove tag because it doesn't print the version |
20:18:28 | CIA-88 | New commit by pamaury (r31448): Tag release v1 of the Sansa Fuze+ bootloader |
20:18:32 | pamaury | finally |
20:19:01 | funman | great job guys |
20:19:06 | pamaury | who should I contact to upload the file, I don't remember |
20:19:06 | funman | Bagder |
20:20:28 | funman | i'm eagerly waiting for the imx233 clip <something> :) |
20:20:28 | pamaury | do you think they will release a new mp3 player based on the imx233 ? |
20:20:28 | pamaury | the bootloader will probably get an update some time in a near future but we have to release at some point |
20:20:28 | pamaury | Bagder: how do we proceed to upload a bootloader file ? |
20:20:33 | funman | pamaury: they reused similar designs several time (tcc for m200, as3525 for everything, PP for e200/c200) |
20:20:44 | funman | pamaury: send him the binary with the desired server url |
20:20:49 | pamaury | perhaps a clip zip+ ? :) |
20:21:17 | pamaury | jlbiasini: what the url you wrote in the rbutil patch ? |
20:21:20 | funman | with HD display? not sure what they can add to perfect it |
20:21:51 | pamaury | they might as well continue to use the as3525 |
20:22:34 | pamaury | in the future we might have some creative, the x-fi2 is imx233 based, and the zen style m100/300 is stmp3770 based |
20:23:08 | funman | ah what id like is loud speakers on the clip (no need for headphones) |
20:24:38 | jlbiasini | pamaury: you already wrote it |
20:24:57 | jlbiasini | It should already be in svn |
20:25:02 | jlbiasini | hold on |
20:25:40 | jlbiasini | pamaury: bootloadername=/sandisk-sansa/fuzeplus/bootloader-fuzeplus.sansa |
20:26:21 | jlbiasini | from: bootloader_url=http://download.rockbox.org/bootloader |
20:26:40 | mrrhq | My Clip Zip is stuck on a spash screen with the Rockbox icon and verson at the bottom. I also can't make a new bootloader from the manual way at the Wiki. I also fevent learned how to use udev to setup rules to mount my Clip Zip as user for Rockbox Utility. Can anyone else make a bootloader compatible for the current version? |
20:27:09 | funman | mrrhq: there's a bootloader on the server (version 4.0) |
20:27:24 | funman | mrrhq: you need to build mkamsboot or rockboxutility from sourec though |
20:27:40 | mrrhq | I mean with mkamsboot utility |
20:28:07 | mrrhq | I keep trying, but it outputs some errors. The manual lists no Bootloader. |
20:28:22 | mrrhq | I used the one from the wiki. |
20:28:26 | jlbiasini | pamaury: anyway with last patch I sometime get a weird bug: on power up screen stay idle with brighness over usual setting |
20:28:32 | funman | mrrhq: what are the errors? |
20:28:57 | mrrhq | Brb, I will post them. |
20:29:19 | pamaury | jlbiasini: when rbutils tries to download the file, what is the resulting url ? http://download.rockbox.org/bootloader/sandisk-sansa/fuzeplus/bootloader-fuzeplus.sansa N |
20:29:20 | pamaury | ? |
20:30:06 | mrrhq | ./mkamsboot clpza.bin bootloader-clipzip.sansa output.bin [11-12-26][11:24:51] |
20:30:09 | mrrhq | mkamsboot Version 1.4 |
20:30:11 | jlbiasini | yes this should be so |
20:30:12 | mrrhq | This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There is NO |
20:30:14 | mrrhq | warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. |
20:30:17 | mrrhq | [ERR] Model name "clzp" unknown. Is this really a rockbox bootloader? |
20:30:20 | mrrhq | [ERR] Could not load bootloader-clipzip.sansa |
20:30:22 | mrrhq | [1] 26290 exit 1 ./mkamsboot clpza.bin bootloader-clipzip.sansa output.bin |
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20:31:13 | Ilsy | Hello, all |
20:31:38 | funman | mrrhq: you need to build mkamsboot fro msource. what's your OS? |
20:31:39 | jlbiasini | pamaury: yes this should be so |
20:31:50 | mrrhq | Debian. |
20:32:14 | funman | 64bits? |
20:33:05 | mrrhq | funman: Yes. |
20:33:42 | funman | mrrhq: http://people.videolan.org/~funman/mkamsboot.x86_64 |
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20:34:40 | mrrhq | funman: Is the source also available on Rockbox's website? |
20:34:44 | saratoga | i would just use rbutility |
20:34:48 | saratoga | yes the source is in svn |
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20:35:08 | funman | saratoga: when was it released? |
20:35:17 | Ilsy | Does anyone know for sure if rockbox can now be installed on an iPod Classic 6th gen 160gb? |
20:35:17 | saratoga | december sometime |
20:35:34 | saratoga | Ilsy: yes, see front page |
20:35:41 | Ilsy | front page? |
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20:36:00 | saratoga | rockbox.org |
20:36:02 | funman | saratoga: then it cant install the bootloader |
20:36:09 | Ilsy | thank you very much, saratoga |
20:36:14 | saratoga | funman: why is that? |
20:36:27 | funman | it was disabled until after i sent the bootloader binary to Bagder |
20:36:50 | saratoga | funman: i think you can still use rbutil with disabled targets, at least it shows up for me in rbutil |
20:37:05 | Lights | Hi all, wondering if anyone can help a noob. I installed latest rockbox on my ipod nano 2g, ever since my display has been fucked, weird lines etc. but computer still recognises it |
20:37:56 | funman | saratoga: hm bootloader was grayed out for me, see r31382 |
20:38:07 | mrrhq | The mkamsboot utility is here? http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi/ |
20:38:19 | funman | mrrhq: rbutil/mkamsboot |
20:38:33 | saratoga | hmm i was wrong, its novermeber, so maybe too old |
20:41:05 | mrrhq | funman: Thank you. I will try compiling it. |
20:41:14 | n1s | Lights: your best bet is probbably talking to TheSeven |
20:41:41 | n1s | he's usually interested in weirdness on nano2g and the best one to fix it i think |
20:41:53 | TheSeven | Lights: rockbox bootloader, iloader or emcore? |
20:42:09 | Lights | thanks n1s |
20:42:25 | Lights | TheSeven: no idea. have not even heard of the others, so rockbox bootloader |
20:43:14 | TheSeven | hm, that's very interesting |
20:43:21 | TheSeven | does the apple logo show correctly during boot? |
20:43:31 | Lights | I can see that it's there but its flickering like crazy |
20:44:11 | Lights | I tried uninstalling rockbox, but it wouldn't let me uninstall the bootloader |
20:44:17 | TheSeven | and it was OK before you installed rockbox? |
20:44:39 | Lights | yea. or well I never used it, got it out of some old box of stuff to give it a new go |
20:44:46 | TheSeven | the rockbox bootloader takes over control only after the apple logo has been shown, so that's unlikely to be the culprit here |
20:44:55 | funman | file properties fail for a file > 2GB |
20:44:58 | Lights | it seemed fine, but I didn't want itunes so I installed rockbox, I think. then the display went funny |
20:45:10 | funman | using %d instead of %u perhaps |
20:45:10 | Lights | I don't know enough of the tech stuff to give u more info :P |
20:45:39 | TheSeven | hm, odd |
20:45:53 | mrrhq | Also, just another question, are the music player emulators also compiled for GNU/Linux? E.g: Sance Clip Zip one. |
20:46:08 | n1s | funman: i think our fat code doesn't really deal with files bigger than 2GB well in a number of ways, they tend not to play |
20:46:08 | mrrhq | *Sansa |
20:46:15 | TheSeven | well, you can try uninstalling the bootloader or restoring using itunes, but I doubt things will get better |
20:46:28 | n1s | something with offsetts being 32 bit signed i think |
20:46:35 | Lights | I couldn't uninstall the bootloader, and restoring using itunes did nada de nada |
20:47:05 | Lights | 'unknown version in firmware' |
20:47:25 | Ilsy | ok, saratoga, I have perused the front page, and the pertaining links....but I'm left feeling noobish as I have no clue how to start the installation process without using the rockbox utility..... |
20:47:32 | gevaerts | mrrhq: I'm not sure what you're asking there |
20:47:38 | Ilsy | is this a common affliction? |
20:47:44 | gevaerts | mrrhq: also, they're simulators, not emulators |
20:48:00 | funman | n1s: i just want to transport those files, not try to play them or open them |
20:48:10 | n1s | Ilsy: the installation on ipod classic is a bit involved |
20:48:17 | Ilsy | I gathered.. |
20:48:19 | n1s | funman: ah |
20:48:38 | mrrhq | gevaerts: Are there ones also as GNU/Linux binaries? I didn't see that. |
20:48:44 | Lights | TheSeven: I found a thread on forums where the guy has what seems to be a similar problem and eventually says that he found it was a voltage problem |
20:48:50 | funman | hm it should be displayed with human size though (G/K/M suffixes) |
20:48:55 | n1s | funman: that should work as none of rockbox's fat code will be involved then |
20:48:58 | TheSeven | Lights: how did bootloader uninstallation fail? |
20:49:18 | TheSeven | did you install the bootloader using the rockbox utility, ipodpatcher, or something else? |
20:49:32 | Lights | rockbox utility is the only thing I've used for anything |
20:49:47 | gevaerts | mrrhq: rockbox.org doesn't distribute *any* simulator binaries. The only semi-official binaries I'm aware of are the windows ones on rasher's website. They're reasonably easy to build though |
20:49:50 | Lights | 'Unknown version number in firmware (0)' is one |
20:54:24 | Lights | 'Rockbox Utility cannot uninstall the bootloader on this target. Try a normal firmware update to remove the bootloader' |
20:54:24 | Lights | is the other |
20:54:24 | mrrhq | gevaerts: Sorry then. I thought it was on rockbox.org... |
20:54:24 | gevaerts | They're linked from the wiki I think |
20:54:24 | n1s | Ilsy: you need to install emcore to run rockbox on the classic at the moment so start with the install instructions here http://www.freemyipod.org/wiki/EmCORE |
20:54:24 | Ilsy | Thank you, n1s...I will go check it out |
20:54:24 | mrrhq | WEll that sucks, I really wanted to try out theme developemnt and a free software simulator would be perfect for that. |
20:54:24 | TheSeven | Lights: and even an itunes restore fails? |
20:54:24 | gevaerts | mrrhq: then build a simulator! |
20:54:24 | funman | mrrhq: you just need libsdl-dev to build one |
20:54:24 | Lights | TheSeven: an itunes restore has no effect :) |
20:54:24 | TheSeven | that seems to be pretty robust if the apple bootloader hasn't been removed |
20:54:24 | mrrhq | So is there instructions to build it? Or nobody gas done it yet? |
20:54:24 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK mrrhq |
20:54:24 | mrrhq | *has |
20:54:24 | TheSeven | well, that should remove a rockbox bootloader? |
20:54:46 | funman | mrrhq: check the wiki |
20:54:52 | gevaerts | mrrhq: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/UiSimulator |
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20:58:15 | mrrhq | Sorry then. I was trying to understand why it wasn't on the page. I know many people use different Linux distributitons, so I guess for that reason there are no "official Linux builds". Thank you then. |
20:58:48 | funman | mrrhq: file a package request to your distro ;) |
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20:58:58 | gevaerts | There are no official builds, period. The only reason rasher has unofficial windows builds on his website is because building for windows is *not* painless |
20:59:36 | fml | kugel: Hello. Can you comment on this? http://www.rockbox.org/irc/log-20111226#15:21:37 |
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21:00:45 | mrrhq | funman: Okay i just did "make" on mkamsboot. I'll copy it over to my rbinstall folder. |
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21:02:39 | mrrhq | funman: And it patched it. GJ! |
21:03:51 | nosa-j | could you guys recomend a good player? |
21:04:15 | fml | nosa-j: any that can run rockbox! |
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21:04:53 | nosa-j | yeah true most manufacturers are terrible with there firmware |
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21:05:05 | nosa-j | sense's are decent? |
21:05:33 | funman | yeah |
21:05:40 | mrrhq | nosa-j: Except for better build quality. Lol. |
21:05:47 | nosa-j | alright |
21:06:15 | nosa-j | heh yeah it would be best to get a durable quality |
21:06:33 | mrrhq | funman: Sorry I DC'ed. I ran "make" on mkamsboot and copiet over to my rbinstall folder. And it patched it! |
21:06:39 | nosa-j | and maybe a changeable battery without any soldering |
21:06:57 | mrrhq | funman: Thank you lots. |
21:07:06 | nosa-j | my nano cronomatic's batter is wareing out and also doesn't run rockbox |
21:07:13 | nosa-j | sorry battery* |
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21:08:48 | mrrhq | Replacable battery would be a good suggection. I also want more internal space on the Clip line and stainless steel casing. XD |
21:09:27 | n1s | yeah a serious metal case on a player is nice |
21:09:30 | funman | mrrhq: get someone to create new cases, would be awesome |
21:09:50 | mrrhq | Stainless steel is near to impossible to forge without a factory. |
21:09:51 | nosa-j | mrrhq: yeah me too we should go into busness |
21:09:51 | n1s | that's why i want a port for my nano4g |
21:09:56 | mrrhq | I think, lol. |
21:10:03 | n1s | that thing seems very sturdy |
21:10:10 | nosa-j | heh one thing the apple's are pretty durable |
21:10:15 | funman | n1s: what's missing for nano4g ? |
21:10:21 | nosa-j | audio |
21:10:25 | mrrhq | That's why people buy them, for the cases. |
21:10:27 | Lights | TheSeven: I put an older .rockbox onto it, and now it gets past the apple sign but the display is still a bit wonky |
21:10:35 | n1s | funman: not sure i guess some flash/ftl stuff mostly |
21:10:37 | funman | nosa-j: that's all? display etc works? |
21:10:37 | Lights | but it's basically working now except the display is now just fuzzy |
21:10:41 | funman | ah |
21:10:50 | funman | send one to TheSeven, problem solved :) |
21:10:51 | nosa-j | iirc just check freemyipod's site |
21:10:56 | nosa-j | o0 |
21:11:32 | n1s | funman: i think he already has one as otherwise i would |
21:11:37 | TheSeven | well, I even have one, but I haven't got around to grinding into the FTL |
21:11:48 | TheSeven | and that EFI mess doesn't make it any easier |
21:11:56 | n1s | i have one with a slightly busted hp jack that i can send to anyone who wants to work on it btw |
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21:15:28 | nosa-j | hmm i really need to breakdown and start working on the nano4g |
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21:23:03 | nosa-j | the batter last about 3 or 4 hours so its not too bad |
21:23:22 | funman | bluebrother: why do we need APPVERSION and not just "VERSION" ? |
21:23:56 | nosa-j | i got a new player from my parents, and im thining a bout sending it back, and find something else |
21:24:10 | nosa-j | they are cool with it |
21:24:58 | nosa-j | ive herd the new sense clips are pretty durable but im not sure heh |
21:25:38 | nosa-j | im willing to spend about 60$ on a new one |
21:26:36 | funman | % make CROSS=i686-w64-mingw32- CFLAGS=-D__USE_MINGW_ANSI_STDIO=1 |
21:26:36 | funman | CC mkamsboot.c |
21:26:36 | funman | mkamsboot.c:100:21: fatal error: ucl/ucl.h: No such file or directory |
21:27:01 | Lights | does anyone know where I can get a user called Buschel's LCD voltage supply fix for nano 2g? |
21:27:17 | funman | somehow CFLAGS isnt correct |
21:27:23 | funman | i686-w64-mingw32-gcc -D__USE_MINGW_ANSI_STDIO=1 -c -o /media/dev/rockbox/rbutil/mkamsboot/build/mkamsboot.o mkamsboot.c |
21:27:36 | funman | the CFLAGS += -I/foo/ucl isn't executed |
21:28:11 | funman | same for make CFLAGS=-m32 to make linux builds |
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21:28:50 | funman | is there some Makefile subtelty that i dont get? |
21:30:34 | Torne | funman: you probably want CFLAGS=whatever make |
21:30:42 | Torne | i.e. set it in the environment, not on the command line to make |
21:30:46 | funman | why? |
21:30:56 | Torne | make defaults everything to the environment values |
21:31:05 | Torne | but things specified on the command line obliterate assignments in the makefile |
21:31:15 | funman | ok |
21:31:21 | Torne | writing make CFLAGS=-m32 forces CFLAGS to be exactly "-m32" always |
21:31:28 | Torne | it ignores attempts to change its value |
21:32:14 | nosa-j | would this chart be a good recommendation for a good player ? :D http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/WhyRockbox |
21:32:43 | gevaerts | nosa-j: that might be a bit outdated I think |
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21:33:32 | nosa-j | ah okay heh |
21:34:33 | nosa-j | well whats one with a dcent lcd screen that doesn't look cheep? |
21:34:39 | nosa-j | decent * |
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21:38:14 | nosa-j | i wonder if i should just stick with my nano4g for now |
21:39:09 | nosa-j | everyone says the metal case is great for it |
21:39:29 | lorenzo92 | kugel: figured out how to use the r0GPIO !! So now I try to implement in RB the headphone sense... |
21:44:08 | TheSeven | Lights: /firmware/target/arm/s5l8700/ipodnano2g/power-nano2g.c |
21:44:31 | TheSeven | remove the "pmu_ldo_set_voltage(2, 0x13); /* LCD = 2.800V */" line |
21:44:48 | TheSeven | but I'm not sure if you'll be able to install the patched bootloader in this situation |
21:47:09 | Lights | say someone used windows explorer to format their ipod. would that potentially delete some hidden partition |
21:47:13 | Lights | and totally fux the ipod thenceforth |
21:48:47 | Torne | not if you just formatted the drive that appears over usb, no |
21:48:55 | Torne | also, nothing permanently stops the ipod working |
21:49:12 | Torne | if you format the drive it will delete *rockbox*, but not the bootlooader; just copying the build abck on there will fix it |
21:49:41 | Torne | to actually erase the hidden partition you would've had to do something more drastic, like editing the parittion table |
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21:55:12 | funman | bluebrother: ping |
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21:55:54 | TheSeven | Lights: it shouldn't. and even if it did, this shouldn't prevent an itunes restore (the ipod would actually respond to removing the firmware partition with an "use itunes to restore" screen) |
21:56:06 | TheSeven | if the rockbox bootloader still works, the firmware partition is still present |
21:57:10 | funman | bluebrother: libtools.make defaults to using 10.4 sdk ? |
21:58:08 | funman | bluebrother: macosx-min-version ought to be enough |
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22:05:03 | kugelp | [Saint]: pong |
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22:06:13 | kugelp | lorenzo92: verynice |
22:06:24 | lorenzo92 | kugel: implemented :D :D |
22:07:25 | lorenzo92 | kugel: now testing if it really works good, since the test before it was inverted :) |
22:08:02 | funman | http://people.videolan.org/~funman/mkamsboot-1.5/ |
22:08:11 | funman | tested on linux and osx, windows is missing |
22:08:12 | lorenzo92 | kugel: yeah :D |
22:08:21 | lorenzo92 | we have now headphone sense |
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22:12:53 | mrrhq | Well, I built the SCZ sim successfully and the bootloader. But it is still stuck on the spash screen with the version name below. I think the settings in the .rockbox folder have caused critical errors when I change the theme settings. |
22:12:54 | lorenzo92 | kugelp: by the way |
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22:13:37 | lorenzo92 | kugelp: well I noticed a fact that we need to take in account...but the patch will explain that to you ;) |
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22:16:29 | lorenzo92 | kugelp: anyway, I should have reversed all the ioctl codes, still some doubt one some code (eg: if that's 6 or 7; 4 or 5...) |
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22:18:10 | tauresule | Hello. I have Rockbox on my iPod and it's not playing all of my mp3 files, right now I uploaded 4 albums to it only played one of them. I can view them in the Files menu, but not the directory. Any thoughts on how to fix it? |
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22:21:26 | mrrhq | Nvm, forget my last chat message. I will just unzip a new current build and replace the files. |
22:21:40 | lorenzo92 | kugelp: there should be a gpio also to detect sd insertion/removal, now I discover it :) |
22:21:57 | gevaerts | tauresule: I don't understand what you mean by "I can view them in the Files menu, but not the directory" |
22:23:19 | tauresule | When browsing Rockbox on my device, I can follow the path Files/Music/Artist/Album/track01.mp3 and see that they are on my iPod, but I cannot play the file, nor can I view it in the Database view on my device |
22:24:07 | kugelp | lorenzo92: awesome |
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22:24:39 | gevaerts | tauresule: as a first step, try checking the filesystem |
22:25:16 | tauresule | What is the filesystem? |
22:25:50 | tauresule | If it matters, I'm running Ubuntu 11.10 |
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22:27:51 | gevaerts | Run fsck.vfat on it |
22:28:56 | tauresule | I'm not sure what that is either I'm afraid. I'm new to OSS stuff |
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22:32:20 | froggyman | tauresule: he wants you to run a filesystem check on the device's storage. Similar to running a "disk check" on windows |
22:34:11 | tauresule | I just entered, and received: $ sudo fsck.vfat -t -a /dev/sdb [line break] dosfsck 3.0.9, 31 Jan 2010, FAT32, LFN |
22:35:43 | tauresule | Also got: There is no backup boot sector. And there is no space for creating one! |
22:35:52 | tauresule | almost missed that |
22:36:05 | gevaerts | That almost certainly has to be sdb2, not sdb |
22:37:06 | tauresule | When I run df in terminal it says /dev/sdb is mounted on /media/iPodClassic |
22:37:23 | gevaerts | Ah, right. a classic might be different |
22:37:33 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
22:37:33 | * | gevaerts leaves issues with the classic to TheSeven |
22:38:05 | TheSeven | gevaerts: superfloppy is correct for emcore'd classics |
22:38:16 | tauresule | superfloppy? |
22:38:57 | dfkt | jlbiasini, yes, i have the fuze+ image |
22:39:04 | TheSeven | tauresule: in other words, the results you have pasted so far sound good |
22:39:05 | lorenzo92 | kugelp: got it ;) I know the gpio for the sd "sense"...at least it should be hehe |
22:39:09 | jlbiasini | cool! |
22:39:31 | jlbiasini | dfkt: could you upload them on the svn? |
22:39:46 | TheSeven | tauresule: what exactly do you mean with "I can view them in the Files menu, but not the directory" |
22:40:21 | tauresule | TheSeven: When browsing Rockbox on my device, I can follow the path Files/Music/Artist/Album/track01.mp3 and see that they are on my iPod, but I cannot play the file, nor can I view it in the Database view on my device |
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22:41:11 | dfkt | jlbiasini, it's already up, from the themes site - http://www.rockbox.org/playerpics/sansafuzeplus-small.png |
22:41:37 | TheSeven | tauresule: what exactly happens when you try to play one of those files? |
22:41:56 | TheSeven | did I understand correctly that this only happens for some, but not all of the albums? |
22:42:15 | jlbiasini | dfkt: for what I eard we also need svg picture |
22:42:35 | tauresule | TheSeven: Yes. Currently I only have several albums by four bands and only one artist's music works. |
22:42:43 | dfkt | jlbiasini, sorry, no vector format, it was made from the freely available press shot from sandisk's website |
22:43:00 | jlbiasini | ok |
22:43:05 | tauresule | TheSeven: And when I select the files to play them, nothing happens at all |
22:43:09 | lorenzo92 | kugelp: my idea is to write the gpio code in gpio_ypr0.c/h. This must: open the device ONLY at startup, close it at shutdown and control it throug ioctls...plus the header contains some useful GPIO pins defines ;) |
22:43:22 | jlbiasini | dfkt: I suppose I could find a way to convert it |
22:43:46 | lorenzo92 | kugelp: for now are: headphone sense, sd sense and the external power sense (but we do it already with minivet) |
22:43:51 | dfkt | jlbiasini, i can upload the high res version then |
22:43:52 | tauresule | They are also white, and lacking the music notes next to them that my playable files have |
22:45:15 | kugelp | sure do it :-) |
22:46:00 | jlbiasini | dfkt: yes that is what I was checking in rockbox/manual/rockbox_interface/images: image are more like >400px high |
22:46:07 | | Part tauresule |
22:46:44 | kugelp | I think open/close at init or before each ioctl doesn't matter too much. It's not actual storage but virtual files |
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22:47:24 | lorenzo92 | kugel: uhm well it seems it does matter in fact! |
22:47:30 | lorenzo92 | I wrote a note for that |
22:47:31 | jlbiasini | dfkt: yeah so upload the big one: I will find my way to convert it and make a version with button detail |
22:47:52 | lorenzo92 | kugel: cause opening always the r0gpio when needed cause rockbox to behave very very strangely lol |
22:48:03 | lorenzo92 | not exaggerating.... |
22:48:22 | kugel | really? hm |
22:49:22 | dfkt | jlbiasini - http://temp.elektrokrishna.com/FuzeP-large.png |
22:49:46 | lorenzo92 | yeah that was really strange, at first I also wondered if I was messing too much with the cpu haha |
22:50:15 | lorenzo92 | for example at some point file browser didn't work, or CPU debug screen was displayed partially |
22:50:24 | jlbiasini | dfkt: thanks!! Now I can go on |
22:51:04 | dfkt | jlbiasini, good luck with the manual chore ;) |
22:53:00 | lorenzo92 | kugel: where could I call the gpio_init function on rb startup? |
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23:00:40 | lorenzo92 | kugel: okay found where, near the ascodec initialization :) |
23:01:02 | Lights | hi again guys. my ipod nano 2g seems to be working but has a flickering screen |
23:01:11 | Lights | what diagnostics can I run to figure out what's causing that?! |
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23:04:40 | jlbiasini | dfkt: well at least I don't know latex for now so I might find it fun to do! :D Anyway with inkskape converting to svg is trivial! |
23:06:04 | dfkt | nice - good to know. usually converting to vector is quite a chore, with lots to clean up |
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23:08:08 | jlbiasini | dfkt: well actually the white gets a little yellow |
23:09:02 | gevaerts | jlbiasini: we don't really want an svg file with embedded bitmap |
23:09:48 | jlbiasini | I'm vectorising the bitmap is that not it? |
23:10:01 | lorenzo92 | kugel: I get an undefined reference, also if I include the gpio_ypr0.h ...uhm...I regenerated make.dep of course! |
23:10:34 | gevaerts | jlbiasini: depends. I don't know what you're doing exactly :) |
23:11:38 | jlbiasini | dfkt gave my png and I'm converting it to svg by using inskape tools: vectorising the bipmap |
23:11:43 | jlbiasini | bitmap |
23:12:38 | gevaerts | That should work for a start I guess, but it probably won't be as clean as it could be |
23:12:49 | * | gevaerts isn't a specialist on this, really |
23:13:38 | lorenzo92 | kugel: ah probably I need to place the gpio_ypr0.c to SOURCES file lol |
23:13:52 | jlbiasini | I guess the point of svg is : smaller image and scalable. So if I get something nearly the other image for that it will be ok i suppose |
23:14:50 | gevaerts | The main point is scalable, yes |
23:15:11 | jlbiasini | what I don't get is why there are duplicate of image in png pdf and svg in the manual's folder??? |
23:15:24 | lorenzo92 | kugel: indeed, my fault as always :D |
23:15:44 | * | gevaerts has a look |
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23:16:28 | jlbiasini | rockbox/manual/rockbox_interface/images |
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23:17:01 | jlbiasini | ohoh it also seems that I have to do the button version before the svg's one |
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23:18:47 | lorenzo92 | kugelp: okay it works nicely :) |
23:18:50 | gevaerts | jlbiasini: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/LatexGuidelines#SVG_images has some information |
23:19:23 | gevaerts | Although that seems outdated. I believe inkscape can export straight to pdf these days, can't it? |
23:19:37 | gevaerts | The point is to keep the dependencies for building the manual down I think |
23:20:20 | jlbiasini | hey nice catch! I supposed I could actually read that BEFORE building the manual!!! And update it after then :D |
23:21:08 | gevaerts | hm, this needs some work, really. You can do all that in inkscape from the command line, which means it could be a makefile target |
23:23:00 | kugelp | lorenzo92: BTW, a battery bench would be sure nice. |
23:23:30 | lorenzo92 | kugelp: okay I could do it, just need to wait for the battery to full charge :) |
23:24:04 | lorenzo92 | kugelp: in some minutes I'll send you the patch to see it a bit :( |
23:24:05 | lorenzo92 | ops |
23:24:07 | lorenzo92 | :) |
23:24:12 | kugelp | we also want o.e for charging I think |
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23:24:51 | gevaerts | jlbiasini: it's been a while, but I believe the button text and arrows are on a separate layer |
23:26:13 | jlbiasini | ah yeah this makes sense |
23:26:17 | lorenzo92 | kugelp: but it's finished in some mins hehe |
23:26:51 | lorenzo92 | kugel: ouch I used the patched svn (battery things...) bah I need to manually edit the patch :) |
23:27:15 | gevaerts | This allows us to export the images without those labels, for e.g. the theme site or the build page |
23:29:05 | lorenzo92 | kugel: is it a problem for you if I mixed the two patches? :( |
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23:37:46 | lorenzo92 | kugel: well I need still to check something a clean some names, so I will prepare it later or tomorrow for you ;) |
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