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| 04:32:25 | eclectic | I'm trying to do a manual install of rockbox on my clip zip |
| 04:32:40 | eclectic | but cannot seem to find the bootloader for it |
| 04:33:16 | eclectic | is there one, or do I have to wait a while yet as I am not a developer? |
| 04:33:54 | funman | eclectic: look on anythingbutipod forums |
| 04:34:32 | eclectic | ok, i did, but i'll try again, thanks. |
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| 05:23:40 | funman | possibly with red included |
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| 05:27:27 | funman | also breaks ccache (new -I argument) |
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| 05:28:40 | funman | hum ata-target.h had non-PP specific code |
| 05:30:28 | funman | or at least advertised so |
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| 05:47:30 | CIA-88 | New commit by funman (r31535): Fix path to PP USB bootloader crt0 |
| 05:47:47 | Osix | Last night I asked for some help in getting my media to play on my fuze+. Never mind. The workaround in FS #12447 was my solution. |
| 05:47:47 | fs-bluebot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12447 [FUZE+]File of different format (flac, mpc, ogg, aac) being skipped. (bugs, unconfirmed) |
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| 05:51:01 | funman | there is still something that could be done for PP *.lds |
| 05:52:38 | funman | can i claim the MrSomeone's task as done? |
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| 06:06:20 | JdGordon | funman: sure :) |
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| 06:50:26 | godzirra | Heya guys. If I wanted to get a device that was similar to an ipod (I have an ipod classic that finally died) but supported rockbox well, what would you guys recommend? |
| 06:50:34 | godzirra | I liked the old cowon mp3 players,but they're all touch screen based now. |
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| 12:07:36 | dfkt | does anyone happen to have that a higher-res version of that rockbox cube logo, presumably made by jeanreno from the misticriver forums, ages ago? it was linked here - http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,6202.210.html |
| 12:08:09 | dfkt | it is also used in some icon sets - silk and tango, methinks |
| 12:09:41 | dfkt | better link - http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,6202.msg73616.html#msg73616 |
| 12:13:32 | lorenzo92 | kugel: hi! I was adapting the headphone sense using the new samsung header :) |
| 12:13:44 | kugel | cool |
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| 13:32:40 | lorenzo92 | kugel: okay headphone sense is working fine again :) |
| 13:33:01 | lorenzo92 | kugel: this time I included also some ioctl to initialize the gpio pin, as done in OF |
| 13:37:36 | lorenzo92 | I'll send you the patch in few mins |
| 13:43:52 | lorenzo92 | kugel: here it is! http://dl.dropbox.com/u/38710278/GPIO_patch.diff |
| 13:44:52 | lorenzo92 | tell me how does it look :) |
| 13:59:34 | lorenzo92 | kugel: slightly improved patch ;) http://dl.dropbox.com/u/38710278/GPIO_patch_2.diff |
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| 14:00:06 | lorenzo92 | I think this should be quite ready to commit, what do you think? |
| 14:01:23 | kugel | lorenzo92: put it on the tracker please |
| 14:01:37 | lorenzo92 | yeah indeed |
| 14:02:14 | lorenzo92 | do I create another ticket or the same for R0? |
| 14:04:02 | lorenzo92 | kugel: forgot to address the question to you :) |
| 14:07:09 | lorenzo92 | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12348 added |
| 14:09:19 | kugel | will have a look this evening |
| 14:16:16 | kugel | lorenzo92: does the OF have this feature? |
| 14:16:45 | lorenzo92 | kugel: yes but it does only pause, not resume after reinsertion :) |
| 14:17:29 | lorenzo92 | kugel: ah btw, I finally discovered that the OF uses the gpio to check sd insertion too ;) |
| 14:17:39 | lorenzo92 | ...the same pin I discovered! |
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| 14:38:19 | jlbiasini | bluebrother: FS #12505 |
| 14:38:20 | fs-bluebot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12505 Missing key link in bubbles.tex (bugs, unconfirmed) |
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| 15:56:27 | hurdman | hi |
| 15:57:16 | hurdman | i had a rockbox on a iPod nano 2nd Gen |
| 15:57:22 | hurdman | i have tried to update it |
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| 15:57:31 | hurdman | i have crash :/ |
| 15:57:40 | hurdman | now i can only get the iLoader |
| 15:57:48 | hurdman | what should i do ? |
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| 16:00:40 | hurdman | ( i have try to fdisk / vfat, restore with itunes, use rockbox utilities and/or ipodpatcher ) |
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| 16:01:19 | CIA-88 | New commit by mortalis (r31537): rk27xx: Fix cache broken in r31339. Remove deprecated aliases. |
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| 16:27:35 | mortalis | why is build taking so long? |
| 16:28:39 | gevaerts | mortalis: "traditionally", stuck builds tend to be caused by a network glitch on the server. I believe it will timeout in a few minutes |
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| 16:29:39 | CIA-88 | r31537 build result: All green |
| 16:39:18 | jlbiasini | JdGordon: It would be nice to have your idea about this FS #12507 because lebellium claims his Theme to be 100% following rockbox standart so that it should be a rockbox bug |
| 16:39:19 | fs-bluebot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12507 lebellium Samsung-like Theme causing rockbox crash on usb connection (bugs, unconfirmed) |
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| 16:48:49 | tottto-drummond | 'just installed Rockbox on my Sansa e200.. super.. |
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| 16:54:50 | y4n | donate! |
| 16:54:58 | y4n | because it was the first thing I did after using it |
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| 16:57:03 | tottto-drummond | good idea !!! |
| 16:57:56 | CIA-88 | New commit by jethead71 (r31538): Gigabeat S: Dump some now-irrelevant comments. |
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| 17:36:22 | godzirra | Heya guys. If I wanted to get a device that was similar to an ipod (I have an ipod classic that finally died) but supported rockbox well, what would you guys recommend? I like the old non touch screen cowon's, but I don't want a wannabe ipod touch. (Or a real ipod touch for that matter) |
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| 17:56:19 | godzirra | Anyone? :) |
| 17:57:27 | orzo | Recommend a sansa device |
| 17:57:43 | gevaerts | godzirra: what does "similar to an ipod" mean exactly? |
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| 17:58:04 | orzo | i've seen it on e280 and on sansa fuze |
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| 17:58:32 | orzo | its pretty nice on either, fuze seems to have an issue where you need to boot the original firmware to charge |
| 17:58:36 | godzirra | gevaerts: Fairly small, more than just a text based screen? I'd like cover art but its not a huge deal. Basically something small that will take my whole music collection (32 gigs or so) and isn't touch screen. |
| 17:58:56 | godzirra | orzo: You have to reboot it to charge? |
| 17:59:00 | godzirra | That seems like a pain. |
| 17:59:20 | orzo | i guess, my gf doesnt seem to mind |
| 17:59:34 | gevaerts | I'm not aware of any such issue |
| 17:59:40 | orzo | i have the e280 and mine is less powered than hers |
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| 18:00:11 | orzo | maybe it was original firmware to load files from the computer... |
| 18:00:19 | orzo | anyway, there was something rockbox wouldnt do |
| 18:00:28 | gevaerts | The fuzev2 doesn't do USB in the 3.10 release in rockbox (although that changed in the current builds), but as far as I know it charges just fine |
| 18:00:38 | godzirra | Do any of the sansa's have ~30 gigs of space? The biggest one I was looking at was 16gigs? |
| 18:00:38 | orzo | okay |
| 18:00:44 | orzo | sorry, i probably misremembered |
| 18:01:04 | gevaerts | godzirra: the fuze has a microsdhc slot that can take 32GB cards |
| 18:01:10 | orzo | godzirra: 32meg microsd are cheapish now |
| 18:01:26 | godzirra | Ah, so I can get the 4gig one and just toss a 32 gig card in it? |
| 18:01:37 | gevaerts | yes |
| 18:01:52 | godzirra | gevaerts: and if I do a current build, I don't have to reboot to original firmware for charging or loading of music? |
| 18:01:55 | Torne | note that you may have trouble upgrading to anything larger in the future |
| 18:02:00 | orzo | http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-32GB-microSDHC-Memory-Package/dp/B003WGJYCY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1325610091&sr=8-1 |
| 18:02:01 | godzirra | Ah, hrm. |
| 18:02:03 | godzirra | Good point. |
| 18:02:08 | Torne | 64gb microsd cards are still somewhat.. terrifying |
| 18:02:37 | orzo | godzirra: on fuzev2, you will have to boot original firmware for something, probably loading music |
| 18:02:38 | godzirra | I'm sitting right at 31 gigs, so that may be a poor choice. Hm. |
| 18:02:54 | orzo | oh wait |
| 18:02:55 | gevaerts | orzo: *not* in the current build |
| 18:02:55 | orzo | its fixed? |
| 18:03:06 | orzo | i can't wait to tell my gf |
| 18:03:07 | orzo | heh |
| 18:03:11 | godzirra | Any suggestions other than a fuze though? Are there any good players that have a lot of storage space that aren't sdhc cards? |
| 18:03:24 | Torne | there are virtually no players being made any more that have hard disks |
| 18:03:29 | godzirra | God, that sucks. |
| 18:03:31 | Torne | and if you are after >32GB capacity then you are talking about a hard disk |
| 18:03:39 | Torne | (for now) |
| 18:03:41 | godzirra | I miss my old iriver. |
| 18:03:57 | Torne | the ipod classic is the only notable one that i can think of, if you want something that's actaulyl still being manufactured |
| 18:04:07 | godzirra | The ipod classic doesn't support rockbox I thought? |
| 18:04:11 | Torne | personally i am very happy with my ipodvideo |
| 18:04:13 | Torne | 80GB |
| 18:04:14 | godzirra | Or not well, since power consumption on it is horrible? |
| 18:04:24 | Lalufu | if you can get hold of a ipod mini you can stick a CF-Card in it |
| 18:04:28 | Torne | which is supported just a-ok by rockbox and if you get a replacement battery they last ages |
| 18:04:36 | Lalufu | 32GB is rather cheap, 64GB less so |
| 18:04:36 | godzirra | ... a CF card? on an ipod mini? |
| 18:04:38 | Torne | (all the original batteries are getting rather old by now) |
| 18:04:51 | gevaerts | The rockbox port for the classic isn't considered to be enduser ready yet, although some people use it |
| 18:05:09 | godzirra | gevaerts: Yeah, I was talking to someone about it the other day (week?) and they said that battery life was < 8 hours. |
| 18:05:10 | Lalufu | godzirra: works like a dream, and improves the battery life considerably :) |
| 18:05:24 | godzirra | Lalufu: I didn't even know you could put a cf card in any apple device. |
| 18:05:39 | Lalufu | it's not quite officially supported. |
| 18:05:41 | Torne | the mini has a CF microdrive in it normally |
| 18:05:53 | Torne | you can replace it with a solid state cf card instead |
| 18:06:00 | Torne | it's not a slot, you have to open it up |
| 18:06:03 | godzirra | Huh. I didn't know that. |
| 18:06:07 | godzirra | Interesting. |
| 18:06:22 | Lalufu | They're all out of warranty, anyway. |
| 18:07:12 | godzirra | What's the max size you can put in there? |
| 18:07:38 | Lalufu | I haven't tried a 64GB card, as those are rather expensive. |
| 18:07:43 | Lalufu | 32GB works, on a 2g |
| 18:07:51 | godzirra | Hrm, 64 is rather expensive. |
| 18:07:55 | godzirra | which means I'm still looking at buying something else. |
| 18:08:16 | Torne | cehck the price on an 80gb ipod video on ebay ;P |
| 18:08:30 | orzo | i <3 rockbox |
| 18:10:09 | godzirra | orzo: Yeah, I had an old iriver h120 that had rockbox and it was fantastic. |
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| 19:03:08 | kugel | is there a cmd line tool to parse xml? |
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| 19:15:21 | kugel | does make have some magic to detect if it created objects itself or other processes? |
| 19:15:46 | kugel | eclipse updates X.class (due to auto compilation), but make doesnt see it and re-compiles X.class |
| 19:16:00 | kugel | X.class is clearly newer than X.java before running make |
| 19:16:11 | kugel | i verified that |
| 19:16:13 | Torne | no, it doesn't. |
| 19:16:32 | Torne | either you are mistaken about hte mtimes or your makefile dependencies are wrong |
| 19:16:35 | Torne | :) |
| 19:17:29 | kugel | checked with ls -l −−time-style=full-iso |
| 19:18:05 | Torne | well, if you are sure then it's a different dependency causing it to be rebuilt :) |
| 19:19:21 | Torne | Actually, how far apart were the times before? |
| 19:21:31 | kugel | under a second |
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| 19:24:01 | Torne | eh, it doesn't matter |
| 19:24:10 | Torne | anyway, i suspect you have a dependency you aren't considering |
| 19:27:18 | Torne | make is limited by the resolution of your filesystem's mtimes, but ls is showing the same resolution, and even if two files have the exact same mtime it will consider that up to date. |
| 19:27:25 | Torne | so, yeah. some other dependency. |
| 19:32:15 | kugel | there's only one further dependency, R.java, that's minutes older |
| 19:32:23 | kugel | $(CLASSPATH)/$(PACKAGE_PATH)/%.class: $(ANDROID_DIR)/src/$(PACKAGE_PATH)/%.java $(CLASSPATH)/$(PACKAGE_PATH)/R.class |
| 19:34:06 | kugel | http://pastie.org/3119939 |
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| 19:43:00 | kugel | it's annoying that make doesnt "accept" eclipse's class files |
| 19:43:18 | kugel | however, at least it's the other way around with newer android sdk versions |
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| 19:49:23 | saratoga | kugel: is FS #12507 likely to be a buflib problem? |
| 19:49:24 | fs-bluebot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12507 lebellium Samsung-like Theme causing rockbox crash on usb connection (bugs, unconfirmed) |
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| 20:07:45 | hurdman | i had a rockbox on a iPod nano 2nd Gen |
| 20:07:50 | hurdman | i have tried to update it |
| 20:07:54 | hurdman | now i can only get the iLoader |
| 20:07:58 | hurdman | ( i have try to fdisk / vfat, restore with itunes, use rockbox utilities and/or ipodpatcher ) |
| 20:08:02 | hurdman | what should i do ? |
| 20:09:05 | gevaerts | hurdman: I believe iLoader is done by the freemyipod people. You'll probably find more people who know about that in #freemyipod |
| 20:09:43 | hurdman | gevaerts: ok thanks |
| 20:10:07 | bluebrother^ | if you restored with Itunes there shouldn't be any iloader on the player |
| 20:10:45 | jlbiasini | pamaury: oups! I forgot to take two finger button out of simulatorui! do you want a patch? |
| 20:11:47 | hurdman | bluebrother^: there's one |
| 20:12:49 | bluebrother^ | that's strange |
| 20:13:15 | bluebrother^ | or is it some flased emcore? |
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| 20:14:45 | bluebrother^ | jlbiasini: I've started working on mkimxboot integration for Rockbox Utility. Changed some things. |
| 20:15:21 | bluebrother^ | I guess I should be able to get that finished soon |
| 20:15:50 | bluebrother^ | (busy with family stuff atm) |
| 20:16:58 | hurdman | bluebrother^: it looks like a sort off encrypted boot flash into the ipod |
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| 20:33:29 | kugel | heh, nice, the java parts can now be build with ant |
| 20:33:52 | kugel | saratoga: everything seems likely to be a buflib problem these days :) |
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| 21:13:06 | kugel | thomasjfox: :) |
| 21:13:11 | kugel | waited for ypi :P |
| 21:13:13 | kugel | you* |
| 21:13:51 | thomasjfox | You mean before updating the patch? ;) |
| 21:14:02 | kugel | give me a second |
| 21:14:22 | thomasjfox | Easy, I can also test the current version |
| 21:14:43 | * | gevaerts asks kugel's opinion on http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,29923.0.html |
| 21:15:09 | kugel | thomasjfox: updated |
| 21:15:43 | thomasjfox | gevaerts: Might be worth to run a sim via valgrind and do the same action as the user did |
| 21:15:48 | thomasjfox | thanks |
| 21:16:20 | kugel | gevaerts: hm, I checked pf repeatedly, so probably be some of the more recent buflib changes |
| 21:17:06 | gevaerts | There have been several fixes to buflib since 3.10 I believe. Would backporting those be safe? |
| 21:17:17 | gevaerts | (and not too difficult...) |
| 21:18:45 | kugel | gevaerts: didnt the user report that 3.10 works, while current svn doesnt? |
| 21:19:07 | kugel | oh, he meant a current build with latest release |
| 21:19:36 | kugel | well, there's some other bugs that are possibly buflib related so I wouldnt call it safe just yet |
| 21:20:12 | kugel | thomasjfox: on maemo nothing should change, battery level and remaining as the OS reports them |
| 21:21:12 | gevaerts | To be honest, I'm not sure if we should spend time backporting too many fixes. Trunk seems to be in good shape, and the 3.10 release was a bit of a mess, so I think I prefer an early 3.11 (maybe near the end of the month?) over a 3.10.1 |
| 21:23:55 | thomasjfox | kugel: Ok. Let's see if it compiles out of the box *fingers crossed* |
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| 21:24:57 | gevaerts | Although I think details might depend on the git migration. I'd *really* like to have an auto-built stable branch close to releases so we'd have continuous RC builds, hosted on the server where rbutil can get at them easily |
| 21:25:36 | Torne | on that subject i'm voting for "let's do that as soon as zagor/me/you/others are available" |
| 21:26:19 | jlbiasini | bluebrother^: ok good! But wasn't it already ok? What did you had to change? |
| 21:26:21 | * | kugel is in the asap camp |
| 21:26:40 | Torne | well by voting i mean i'm declaring we are ready and can fix stuff up afterward |
| 21:26:48 | * | gevaerts sees too many useful things depending on the git migration to want to postpone it :) |
| 21:28:03 | jlbiasini | bluebrother^: alternatively if change are not very complicated and you are busy, just tell me what to do and I will work further on it |
| 21:28:22 | jlbiasini | :) |
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| 21:38:00 | alnilam | Hi folks, I recently updated rockbox on my sansa clip+ to version 3.10, and now it seems unable to connect to a computer via USB - it simply charges. But before, I could connect via USB even running rockbox. |
| 21:38:50 | alnilam | So I rebooted in the original firmware, made sure it's in MSC mode - it is. Under the orig. firmware, I could connect fine, and so I downgraded to the older version of rockbox I had, which now once again lets me connect via USB. |
| 21:39:33 | gevaerts | alnilam: which version were you running before? USB has been disabled on clip+ for a *long* time... (it's enabled again since one or two weeks in the development builds) |
| 21:40:56 | alnilam | Oh, I didn't know that! It's a custom build that someone made when rockbox did not support SDHC cards. This build did. I notice that now 3.10 supports SDHC, hooray! |
| 21:41:19 | gevaerts | hm, right. A custom built could have had usb enabled |
| 21:41:20 | alnilam | the build number issss...r29143M-110126 |
| 21:42:45 | alnilam | okay, I think that answers my question then |
| 21:42:48 | alnilam | about why it stopped working |
| 21:42:59 | alnilam | it is deliberately disabled... were the developers having issues with USB? |
| 21:43:17 | gevaerts | There were some nasty issues with it, yes |
| 21:43:48 | alnilam | Okay, thanks :) unless you have any other words of advice, I guess that's all I needed |
| 21:43:52 | gevaerts | We believe they're now fixed, but 3.10 doesn't have those fixes yet |
| 21:44:07 | alnilam | Okay, I'll keep a closer eye on the dev page then! |
| 21:44:57 | alnilam | Thanks a lot, and big thanks to all rockbox developers, we users really appreciate it |
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| 21:51:32 | kugel | thomasjfox: does it work? |
| 21:51:58 | thomasjfox | kugel: Still updating my dev box / rockbox tree |
| 21:52:11 | thomasjfox | kugel: Will try in a second |
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| 21:54:37 | kugel | thomasjfox: oh okay |
| 21:59:10 | CIA-88 | New commit by thomasjfox (r31540): Fix warning about missing newline at the EOF |
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| 22:00:47 | kugel | lorenzo92: heh, just a tip. "X == 1 ? true : false" is a bit too much |
| 22:01:20 | kugel | X == 1 returns a boolean already |
| 22:01:21 | CIA-88 | r31540 build result: All green |
| 22:01:30 | lorenzo92 | kugel: uhm haha you're right |
| 22:01:39 | lorenzo92 | kugel: don't know why I used this lol |
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| 22:03:28 | thomasjfox | kugel: This one is easy to fix: "firmware/powermgmt.c:228: error: expected ';' before '}' token" |
| 22:03:31 | kugel | lorenzo92: your patch looks fine otherwise |
| 22:03:44 | lorenzo92 | kugel: good :) |
| 22:04:05 | lorenzo92 | kugel: I tested it in runtime for some hours and seems working fine |
| 22:04:12 | kugel | I think I'll commit it right away |
| 22:04:19 | lorenzo92 | great ;) |
| 22:04:38 | thomasjfox | kugel: What about this one: "firmware/powermgmt.c:301: error: 'powermgmt_est_runningtime_min' undeclared" ? |
| 22:06:33 | thomasjfox | kugel: same for: "firmware/powermgmt.c:386: error: 'battery_millivolts' undeclared" |
| 22:06:43 | thomasjfox | Looks like some define is missing |
| 22:08:03 | kugel | should be #define CONFIG_BATTERY_MEASURE PERCENTAGE_MEASURE|TIME_MEASURE |
| 22:08:12 | kugel | lorenzo92: gah, I messed something up |
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| 22:09:13 | lorenzo92 | kugel: headphone sense the other way round? :) |
| 22:10:43 | lorenzo92 | kugel: ah! that's why I used the ? trick maybe! |
| 22:13:16 | kugel | no, I meant local messup of my commit :) |
| 22:13:22 | kugel | th |
| 22:13:44 | [7] | bluebrother^: the later iloader versions are installing to the NOR flash as well |
| 22:13:45 | kugel | thomasjfox: unfortunately maemo has a strange build system, or I could fix it myself |
| 22:14:32 | thomasjfox | kugel: I recently thought we could do the same trick as for the ypr0 and just provide the needed precompiled libs + our toolchain |
| 22:14:58 | thomasjfox | but I guess that would just be a too big binary blob and a maintenance mess |
| 22:15:12 | CIA-88 | New commit by kugel (r31541): Adjust a few makefiles to generate smaller (upto 80%) binaries on RaaA through ... |
| 22:15:19 | CIA-88 | New commit by kugel (r31542): android: Adjust gcc/linker cmdline. Fixes build with ndk r7. |
| 22:15:23 | CIA-88 | New commit by kugel (r31543): android: Update build system for recent SDK versions and target ice cream sandwich. ... |
| 22:15:28 | CIA-88 | New commit by kugel (r31544): ypr0: Enable headphone detection ... |
| 22:15:38 | thomasjfox | kugel: I'm currently tracing the value of CONFIG_BATTERY_MEASURE |
| 22:15:51 | kugel | it's on config/maemo.h |
| 22:15:54 | kugel | in* |
| 22:16:46 | CIA-88 | r31541 build result: All green |
| 22:16:54 | thomasjfox | kugel: Have you thought about prefixing the config options? TIME_MEASURE could be anything... |
| 22:18:38 | CIA-88 | r31544 build result: All green |
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| 22:20:59 | thomasjfox | kugel: The definition of the missing variable is inside "#if !(CONFIG_BATTERY_MEASURE & TIME_MEASURE)" in powermgmt.c |
| 22:21:44 | thomasjfox | kugel: So either the variable is missing or the wrong code gets compiled in later on in line 301 |
| 22:25:37 | kugel | thomasjfox: try to replace that with "#if ((CONFIG_BATTERY_MEASURE & TIME_MEASURE) == 0)", IIRC I had problems with ! there before |
| 22:25:44 | lovasoa | Hey, when I get an alert message while I'm in the WPS, the screen doesn't update correctly after the end of the message's timeout: I can still see half of the message. Is it a known bug? |
| 22:30:53 | thomasjfox | kugel: Not sure if that will help, for maemo CONFIG_BATTERY_MEASURE also sets the TIME_MEASURE bit |
| 22:31:11 | saratoga | are long m4a files expected to work now? |
| 22:33:19 | thomasjfox | kugel: same thing |
| 22:35:19 | kugel | gevaerts: does that look okay for a toolchain upgrade? http://pastie.org/3120945 |
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| 22:38:22 | kugel | thomasjfox: in line 528? |
| 22:38:38 | * | kugel hacks that defines into the sdl app just to compile |
| 22:39:53 | thomasjfox | kugel: I'm talking about firmwared/export/config/nokian900.h |
| 22:40:10 | thomasjfox | There is sets "#define CONFIG_BATTERY_MEASURE (PERCENTAGE_MEASURE|TIME_MEASURE)" |
| 22:40:37 | kugel | yea, I receive an error on line 528 |
| 22:40:39 | thomasjfox | "static int powermgmt_est_runningtime_min;" is only defined if TIME_MEASURE is not present |
| 22:40:48 | bluebrother^ | [7]: that's what I was thinking about :) Wasn't aware that later iloader does that as well. |
| 22:40:48 | kugel | which is within VOLTAGE_MEASURE |
| 22:40:52 | thomasjfox | So I get an error on line 301 |
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| 22:41:17 | kugel | argh, stupid preprocessor |
| 22:41:30 | kugel | #define CONFIG_BATTERY_MEASURE (PERCENTAGE_MEASURE|TIME_MEASURE) != #define CONFIG_BATTERY_MEASURE PERCENTAGE_MEASURE|TIME_MEASURE |
| 22:41:48 | bluebrother^ | jlbiasini: there have been a couple of issues. The most annoying one is that mkimxboot takes quite long to complete, and during that time the UI blocks which is really ugly. |
| 22:42:09 | bluebrother^ | so I've moved that call into a separate thread, but that causes some changes. |
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| 22:42:47 | bluebrother^ | also, I'm not happy with that 70% battery power installation hint. It's way too specific. |
| 22:43:09 | kugel | thomasjfox: try defining NO_LOW_BATTERY_SHUTDOWN |
| 22:43:11 | bluebrother^ | what if we get another device supported that requires 80%? And why 70% at all? Why not 71%? |
| 22:43:15 | kugel | the sdl app does compile with that one |
| 22:44:08 | bluebrother^ | IMO we should either instruct the user to make sure the device is charged but not mention a specific level of charge. This should be enough to make sure the user has charged its player. |
| 22:44:29 | thomasjfox | kugel: If it define NO_LOW_XXX, then the error on line 386 is gone. The one on 301 stays |
| 22:44:42 | kugel | thomasjfox: oh, and undef CURRENT_* please :) |
| 22:44:44 | bluebrother^ | or not mention it at all, since a requirement to have the battery charged before upgrading the firmware is something that should be covered by the OF firmware update description in the vendors manual |
| 22:45:08 | bluebrother^ | It's also not related to retrieving the OF, which is what ofHint() is about. |
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| 22:45:34 | bluebrother^ | and your latest patch is still using a fixed filename for a temporary file. That's a no-no. |
| 22:46:05 | bluebrother^ | but anyway, I'm mostly through it so I don't see much point in you fixing things I've already changed :) |
| 22:47:25 | thomasjfox | kugel: almost got it |
| 22:47:26 | bluebrother^ | btw, I don't see a point in telling the user to check the Rockbox manual on how to boot the original firmware on bootloader installation. Bootloader installation means that there is no Rockbox bootloader on the player, and in that case there is no dual boot to handle on starting the player :) |
| 22:47:36 | thomasjfox | kugel: One more error left: "firmware/target/hosted/maemo/maemo-thread.c:176: undefined reference to `battery_status_update'" |
| 22:48:09 | thomasjfox | kugel: Can I just remove it? |
| 22:48:28 | CIA-88 | New commit by bluebrother (r31545): Remove trailing whitespaces. |
| 22:49:05 | kugel | thomasjfox: yes |
| 22:49:07 | thomasjfox | kugel: IIRC the new code should just hand over the 'maemo_battery_level' value if asked to |
| 22:49:37 | kugel | that's correct |
| 22:50:17 | CIA-88 | r31545 build result: All green |
| 22:52:21 | CIA-88 | New commit by bluebrother (r31546): Update displayed settings on startup. ... |
| 22:53:24 | gevaerts | kugel: I'd do that in several stages. Add the new toolchain, then when it's installed on a few build clients update builds, and then when everyone has upgraded remove the old one |
| 22:54:16 | CIA-88 | r31546 build result: All green |
| 22:55:29 | kugel | gevaerts: I don't think the old one still works |
| 22:55:49 | kugel | since I changed the target to android-15 |
| 22:56:22 | kugel | there are only two clients providing android, one of them is my build client which is updated already |
| 22:56:26 | kugel | the other one is zagor |
| 22:56:28 | kugel | or are there more? |
| 22:56:39 | gevaerts | I don't know. Zagor can check |
| 22:56:53 | gevaerts | If it's only those two, yes, you can do a coordinated single upgrade round |
| 22:57:53 | gevaerts | It's just that IIRC declaring toolchains on the commandline that aren't recognised isn't allowed, so changing the list of known toolchains needs a bit of care |
| 22:58:01 | gevaerts | I could be wrong there though |
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| 22:59:44 | kugel | ah you mean to keep the android-30 line to not have clients being kicked off? |
| 22:59:48 | gevaerts | yes |
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| 23:00:00 | kugel | makes sense |
| 23:00:31 | kugel | saturn-amiconn also builds android |
| 23:01:06 | gevaerts | The server logs what every client declares, so that's easy to check for the right people |
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| 23:02:06 | thomasjfox | kugel: Got the new build up and running |
| 23:02:16 | thomasjfox | kugel: Battery percentage shows the correct value |
| 23:02:52 | thomasjfox | kugel: "Runtime left" went from "5 hours 0 minutes" to "0 hours -1 minutes" |
| 23:03:05 | kugel | meh |
| 23:03:10 | thomasjfox | :) |
| 23:03:32 | thomasjfox | I'll add debug printfs to the returned values in maemo-thread.c |
| 23:06:59 | bluebrother^ | Torne: do we already have some gitweb for the git repository? Would be really useful to be able adjusting scripts before the actual transition. |
| 23:07:00 | thomasjfox | kugel: Oh wait, there's a new "View battery" debug menu |
| 23:07:32 | thomasjfox | kugel: Strangely I don't see any "Estimation: xyz minutes" or "Estimation: n/a" print out |
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| 23:08:30 | Torne | bluebrother^: we don't, no |
| 23:08:30 | kugel | try http://pastie.org/3121122 in powermgmt.c |
| 23:08:33 | kugel | thomasjfox: ^ |
| 23:08:42 | kugel | replace battery_time() with that |
| 23:08:54 | bluebrother^ | I hope it's planned though? |
| 23:09:21 | kugel | thomasjfox: that seems strange, it should print _something_ at least :) |
| 23:09:23 | Torne | yeah |
| 23:09:59 | thomasjfox | kugel: It shows "battery 86%" |
| 23:10:14 | thomasjfox | and in the next line "86%-87% (1%)" |
| 23:10:29 | kugel | there are several pages |
| 23:10:30 | thomasjfox | and now it's drawing some nice chart |
| 23:10:46 | thomasjfox | ah ok |
| 23:10:47 | thomasjfox | got id |
| 23:10:49 | thomasjfox | it |
| 23:10:49 | kugel | I don'T think you can flip through them using the touchscreen though :) |
| 23:11:04 | kugel | with grid mode perhaps |
| 23:11:06 | thomasjfox | Estimation n/a is finnaly there |
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| 23:12:22 | jlbiasini | bluebrother^: hello |
| 23:12:39 | jlbiasini | bluebrother^: to answer in the order |
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| 23:13:27 | jlbiasini | 70% is the hint from manufacturer while performing firmware upgrade |
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| 23:13:51 | thomasjfox | kugel: The last fix from pastie.org works |
| 23:14:08 | jlbiasini | a simple way would be to ask the user to refer to his device documentation on how to perform a firmware upgrade. |
| 23:14:08 | kugel | that's nice |
| 23:14:29 | thomasjfox | kugel: I'll stress the battery a little to see if it gets updated |
| 23:14:56 | * | thomasjfox likes JdGordon's work on the theme in trunk |
| 23:15:13 | jlbiasini | bluebrother^: about the fact it has nothing to do with OF I know and I agree |
| 23:15:48 | kugel | thomasjfox: what did he do? |
| 23:16:06 | thomasjfox | kugel: The cabbie theme now has a volume slider that pops up |
| 23:16:13 | kugel | that was me, though :) |
| 23:16:31 | * | thomasjfox likes kugel's work on the theme in trunk |
| 23:16:34 | thomasjfox | :) |
| 23:17:19 | jlbiasini | bluebrother^: regarding booting into OF, on a bootloader upgrade the user wil not be able to upgrade if does not boot into OF, same about uninstalling |
| 23:17:58 | funman | bluebrother^: ping |
| 23:18:06 | jlbiasini | anyway this is anoying to have all that in the code, and this is all in my manual patch anyway |
| 23:18:07 | bluebrother^ | funman: pong |
| 23:18:16 | jlbiasini | so you can take it out |
| 23:18:18 | funman | why do you force osx build with 10.4 sdk? |
| 23:18:29 | funman | -mmacosx-min-version isn't enough? |
| 23:18:51 | bluebrother^ | never checked. It was that way when I started working on OS X. |
| 23:19:30 | funman | perhaps you know apple phased out ppc and doesn't give ppc sdk anymore |
| 23:20:03 | bluebrother^ | jlbiasini: telling the user to start the original firmware should be enough even for an update IMO. Users should know what they are doing after all :) |
| 23:20:31 | bluebrother^ | funman: if we want ppc support we need to build against the 10.4 SDK |
| 23:21:02 | bluebrother^ | and while I tend to consider dropping ppc support we currently still have it, so we need to use gcc-4.0 and the old SDK |
| 23:21:06 | kugel | thomasjfox: thanks for helping |
| 23:21:15 | bluebrother^ | is there any problem with using that SDK? |
| 23:21:21 | thomasjfox | kugel: You're welcome |
| 23:21:26 | jlbiasini | bluebrother^: yeah right anyway this goes into the manual |
| 23:21:34 | funman | bluebrother^: yes it's not available |
| 23:21:46 | funman | i only did a i386 build of mkamsboot 1.5 |
| 23:22:05 | jlbiasini | so that we will be able to tell them in a smug way RTFM! :D |
| 23:22:12 | thomasjfox | kugel: Should we do one more round with an "final" updated patch? |
| 23:22:13 | funman | apple ships xcode4.2 with 10.6 sdk (which is i386 only) |
| 23:22:48 | bluebrother^ | jlbiasini: that's how I'm planning to do it: http://www.alice-dsl.net/dominik.riebeling/rockbox/rbutil-of-updatehint.jpg |
| 23:24:16 | bluebrother^ | funman: urgh. That's 10.7 only, right? |
| 23:25:06 | funman | possibly |
| 23:25:12 | kugel | thomasjfox: will put it up in a minute |
| 23:25:15 | funman | no it works on 10.6 too |
| 23:25:21 | bluebrother^ | hmm. I'm still on 10.6 (and currently not planning to update) |
| 23:25:37 | jlbiasini | bluebrother^: the only slight difference that make it a little more sensible on the fuze+ is that you don't perform an upgrade through a menu or something like that. Praticaly, a soon as the user unplug his device (and in fact as soon as it safely remove it) the player start updating |
| 23:26:07 | jlbiasini | this is why I was a little over caring on this subject |
| 23:26:09 | funman | bluebrother^: anyway, is it possible to download 10.4 SDK? |
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| 23:26:36 | bluebrother^ | funman: no idea −− I'm still using the XCode that came with 10.6 which does have the 10.4 SDK |
| 23:26:55 | funman | which version is that? |
| 23:26:59 | bluebrother^ | which is XCode 3.something |
| 23:27:29 | bluebrother^ | I _think_ you can still download it if you log in to Apple's devcenter. Haven't tried since a while though |
| 23:28:06 | funman | trying to do that, will report when Big Brother knows all about me and allows me to download stuff |
| 23:28:17 | bluebrother^ | :) |
| 23:29:10 | jlbiasini | kugel: you are working on theme, would you mind having a look at this FS #12507 |
| 23:29:11 | fs-bluebot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12507 lebellium Samsung-like Theme causing rockbox crash on usb connection (bugs, unconfirmed) |
| 23:29:18 | bluebrother^ | apart from that, since we have a configuration option for Rockbox Utility to build an Intel only binary it would make sense to respect that when building the libs as well. I guess I need to look into that some time :) |
| 23:29:35 | saratoga | why do you have to remove the SD card when installing a fuze+ update? |
| 23:30:39 | jlbiasini | bluebrother^: I hit new snake (actually the old one :) ) on the manual FS #12508 |
| 23:30:39 | fs-bluebot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12508 [snake plugins] Manual claims for a button to change level which doesn't exist in the code (bugs, unconfirmed) |
| 23:31:22 | bluebrother^ | jlbiasini: noticed that. I'll try to finish the mkimxboot stuff first though :) |
| 23:31:44 | jlbiasini | saratoga: actually I don't know this is manufacturer recommendation and as I systematicly forget I can say this isn't that important |
| 23:31:50 | jlbiasini | ;) |
| 23:32:00 | bluebrother^ | ok, since some players update the firmware immediately and others need some manual steps it might be necessary to split up that installation hint |
| 23:32:27 | saratoga | all of the sandisk players update the firmware the same was afaik, just copy it over and it updates, i don't think the sd card matters |
| 23:33:54 | CIA-88 | New commit by thomasjfox (r31547): FS #11859: Enable optimizations for SDL application builds. ... |
| 23:34:38 | jlbiasini | saratoga: anyway about update there i something I wonder on fuze+: when we update the firmware placing it on the root of device, the beast boot directly into updating mode, then reboot, and after some more loading stuff write "you have successfully updated your device" |
| 23:34:49 | bluebrother^ | hmm, if the fuzeplus automatically updates the firmware than it shouldn't use that post install hint |
| 23:35:11 | bluebrother^ | jlbiasini: the beast? |
| 23:35:20 | saratoga | he means fuze+, not the actualbeast |
| 23:35:30 | jlbiasini | yes this is the slight difference I was talking about |
| 23:35:33 | CIA-88 | r31547 build result: All green |
| 23:36:02 | bluebrother^ | jlbiasini: you're aware that the beast is a specific player? ;-) |
| 23:36:19 | jlbiasini | but so when we install rb it doesn't reboot and load to say : "you have successfully updated your device" because rb cut the reboot |
| 23:36:31 | jlbiasini | ??? no! |
| 23:36:43 | bluebrother^ | beast == Gigabeat S |
| 23:36:59 | jlbiasini | I thought it was just a way to talk about a player in general - some rb slang! |
| 23:37:05 | saratoga | fwiw the beast also updates like the fuze+ IIRC |
| 23:37:06 | jlbiasini | lol |
| 23:37:08 | bluebrother^ | see also utils/MTP/beastpatcher :) |
| 23:37:22 | jlbiasini | ok |
| 23:37:51 | saratoga | jhmikes: how is the beast battery life these days, I see that you've rewritten about half the port since I last played with mine :) |
| 23:37:57 | bluebrother^ | saratoga: not in all cases −− on some host OS it requires disconnecting USB first (Windows IIRC) |
| 23:38:12 | saratoga | doesn't the fuze+? |
| 23:38:14 | jlbiasini | well to go back to what i was saying about fuze+: I don't know if this reboot being cut down by rb is safe |
| 23:38:21 | * | bluebrother^ should look into beast integration into Rockbox Utility again |
| 23:38:35 | kugel | thomasjfox: updated |
| 23:38:49 | bluebrother^ | saratoga: ah, right. But on Linux (IIRC) you don't need to disconnect, it immediately starts the firmware update |
| 23:38:59 | saratoga | for the beast? |
| 23:39:02 | bluebrother^ | I might have swapped Linux and Windows here. |
| 23:39:05 | jlbiasini | it seems to work, but pehraps some slight update are missing? |
| 23:39:06 | bluebrother^ | yes, the beast |
| 23:39:13 | saratoga | ah ok, i guess thats some mtp thing |
| 23:39:26 | saratoga | kugel: is arm asm enabled for the R0 port yet? |
| 23:39:58 | kugel | saratoga: not yet |
| 23:40:08 | saratoga | is there some complication? |
| 23:40:19 | kugel | I don't expect so |
| 23:40:38 | saratoga | why doesn't the R0 define CPU_ARM anyway? |
| 23:40:52 | jlbiasini | perhaps pamaury has some clue about it? |
| 23:41:03 | pamaury | about what В§/ |
| 23:41:07 | pamaury | ? |
| 23:41:13 | kugel | thomasjfox: can you look into changing the pandora port to use the plain sdl app (which it effectively does already), i.e. don't setup the target tree for a pandora dir which doesnt exist? |
| 23:41:34 | kugel | saratoga: no premature optimitations? :) |
| 23:41:34 | jlbiasini | about the fact that fuze+ upgrading firmware might get cutted by rb on reboot |
| 23:41:53 | pamaury | what do you mean by "cutted" ? |
| 23:42:12 | saratoga | i don't think that can happen |
| 23:42:14 | jlbiasini | it only show "you have successfully updated your device" after reboot |
| 23:42:24 | saratoga | if you boot into rockbox then you've successfully installed the bootloader |
| 23:42:37 | pamaury | ah, right, you need to reboot in the OF directly, probably because the bootloader set some persistent bits somewhere |
| 23:43:00 | pamaury | saratoga: not if you upgrade the bootloader |
| 23:43:00 | thomasjfox | kugel: Actually I wanted to steal your pcm-alsa.c from the ypr0 port, so it won't be a clean sdl-app anymore |
| 23:43:28 | jlbiasini | pamaury: I'm talking also about the first installation |
| 23:43:30 | saratoga | oh you mean if rockbox is already installed and you're just updated? |
| 23:43:39 | thomasjfox | kugel: The Pandora also has shoulder buttons, I don't want to "enable" those in the generic sdl app |
| 23:44:12 | kugel | thomasjfox: specific button stuff can go into a subfolder |
| 23:44:15 | pamaury | jlbiasini: then that can't happen, the first time you install rockbox, it will reboot into the OF because the bootloader is not yet installed :-/ |
| 23:44:32 | saratoga | kugel: anyway, i'm curious what difference they make to battery life on the arm11 |
| 23:44:34 | kugel | like hosted/sdl/app which already exists; hosted/sdl/pandora |
| 23:44:44 | jlbiasini | without rb: new OF on the root -> reboot updating -> reboot "you have successfully updated your device" |
| 23:44:53 | saratoga | they're not all that well thought out for arm11, so i wonder how useful they are |
| 23:45:16 | saratoga | jlbiasini: if you end up in rockbox then clearly the update succeeded |
| 23:45:27 | saratoga | if the update didn't finish, then theres no rockbox code running |
| 23:46:05 | pamaury | jlbiasini: OF bug ? Seriously, did sandisk released a newer version of the OF ? the OF prevents downgrade, that might explain the problem |
| 23:46:06 | thomasjfox | kugel: Do you desired to remove the PLATFORM_PANDORA define? |
| 23:46:15 | jlbiasini | Isn't there a risk of half updated stuff so? That's what I wanted to be sure about |
| 23:46:18 | jlbiasini | ? |
| 23:46:36 | kugel | thomasjfox: yea why not, it's only used within sdl code isn't it? |
| 23:46:59 | kugel | pandora isn't much of a platform if sdl is mostly used IMO |
| 23:46:59 | pamaury | no, I don't think the OF does half update |
| 23:47:44 | jlbiasini | pamaury: I also notice it on rb: last time I wanted to boot into OF and I get this screen sucess because of the last time I had my rb bootloader updated |
| 23:48:13 | jlbiasini | If its safe it's ok then |
| 23:48:17 | pamaury | that's not a big deal as long as the bootloader gets correctly installed ! |
| 23:48:21 | thomasjfox | kugel: Hmm. SDL doesn't support getting the display DPI |
| 23:48:21 | jlbiasini | I just wanted to be sure |
| 23:48:36 | jlbiasini | pamaury: right |
| 23:48:43 | kugel | thomasjfox: this is similar to FS #12496. for this I wouldn't like a new PLATFORM define because it differs so little from plain sdl |
| 23:48:44 | fs-bluebot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12496 RaaA WebOS (patches, unconfirmed) |
| 23:49:04 | pamaury | honestly I don't **** care about the OF stupidities of upgrading, we can upgrade without the OF if needed |
| 23:49:13 | thomasjfox | kugel: Then we need a better way how to do little tweaks like disabling the mouse cursor or running fullscreen |
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| 23:49:44 | thomasjfox | These all need to become distinct features of the sdl app |
| 23:49:45 | jlbiasini | I don't either: I just wanted to be sure that it is safe to rely on it |
| 23:49:46 | kugel | there's still the target define |
| 23:50:10 | kugel | from the Makefile |
| 23:50:49 | jlbiasini | I'm on a hell of a massive plugin keymap's update right now |
| 23:51:01 | jlbiasini | over 3 days already!! :) |
| 23:51:13 | kugel | full screen and cursor hiding is something you could do via commandline or env vars, it doesn't even need to be compile time constant |
| 23:52:09 | thomasjfox | Usage of pcm-alsa.c could be done via the target define, too |
| 23:52:15 | kugel | thomasjfox: I just dislike that pandora pretends to be a platform including target tree setup while it's basically the sdl app compiled for a specific device |
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| 23:53:18 | kugel | PLATFORM_* should be used kept for something that includes more than one device, like an OS or generic library |
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| 23:53:39 | kugel | otherwise we can only have 30 RaaAs :P |
| 23:53:46 | jlbiasini | by the way I have question about plugin: does anybody know why all the plugin do not rely on plugin-libaction by now? Is it just that anyone who try get instantly bored or is there any real reason? |
| 23:54:59 | saratoga | i think its because different players have such different hardware its hard to come up with a generic mechanism |
| 23:55:27 | jlbiasini | And for the plugin which does rely on it: why some of them are mapping PLA_CANCEL to quit action instead of PLA_QUIT |
| 23:55:44 | saratoga | FWIW i think we could also just disable plugins on touch targets until they're actually rewritten to have touch interfaces |
| 23:55:49 | kugel | thomasjfox: note that alsa-lib doesnt provide volume control, so you need some glue "hardware" to change the volume or use sw volume via dsp. on ypr0 we can drive the as3543 chip like on sansa targets |
| 23:56:13 | kugel | alsa-lib is pcm data transfer only |
| 23:56:42 | kugel | or look how amixer implements volume control :) |
| 23:57:30 | thomasjfox | Oh well, didn't we say RaaA shouldn't touch the "master" host volume anyway? |
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| 23:58:42 | saratoga | you're going to want to adjust the output gain though |
| 23:58:44 | kugel | did we? |
| 23:59:01 | thomasjfox | I remember some discussion about it |
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