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| 00:00:39 | thomasjfox | kugel: Don't we already up/down the volume levels in the software mixer? |
| 00:00:59 | kugel | but depending on the device, touching hte master volume is the right thing (e.g. android) |
| 00:01:03 | thomasjfox | kugel: At least the volume controls work with the latest build |
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| 00:01:28 | kugel | thomasjfox: what do you mean? |
| 00:01:37 | kugel | the latest build of what? |
| 00:01:48 | thomasjfox | kugel: The current build of trunk |
| 00:01:58 | thomasjfox | With the new volume slider popup in cabbie |
| 00:02:06 | kugel | on maemo? |
| 00:02:08 | thomasjfox | yep |
| 00:02:22 | kugel | you don't use alsa-lib there dont you? |
| 00:02:27 | thomasjfox | nope |
| 00:02:36 | thomasjfox | But I don't adjust the volume either |
| 00:03:00 | kugel | right, that's volume via dsp, what I mentioned before |
| 00:03:06 | kugel | that works yes |
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| 00:03:17 | kugel | (HAVE_SW_TONE_CONTROLS) |
| 00:03:46 | thomasjfox | anyhow, it's getting late, I want to give your patch a final run :) |
| 00:03:57 | kugel | btw, I think now that there's a real mixer that should be moved from dsp to the mixer |
| 00:05:19 | kugel | hm, no it's actually HAVE_SW_VOLUME_CONTROL and you don't define that |
| 00:05:33 | kugel | TONE is bass/treble |
| 00:06:48 | thomasjfox | I thought support was added along with the new software mixer |
| 00:07:42 | kugel | the software mixer can adjust the volume of each channel, but not all together IIRC |
| 00:08:19 | kugel | but the dsp also only applies to the music channel |
| 00:09:05 | kugel | it wasn't added the control the channel's volume via buttons |
| 00:09:17 | kugel | or? |
| 00:09:19 | thomasjfox | kugel: New version of the patch works out of the box on the N900. Trying a N8xx build now |
| 00:09:36 | kugel | jhMikeS knows more |
| 00:09:46 | kugel | thomasjfox: so, volume control didn't actually work before? |
| 00:10:42 | thomasjfox | kugel: At least not the one inside rockbox IIRC. Never used it before, I always use the hardware buttons to controll the master volume |
| 00:11:19 | kugel | oh hmm |
| 00:11:23 | kugel | no idea |
| 00:13:52 | thomasjfox | kugel: N8xx also seems to work |
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| 00:14:31 | kugel | thomasjfox: pcm-gstreamer implements volume control |
| 00:14:32 | thomasjfox | With your refactoring it will probably get easier to write a "driver" for libhal |
| 00:14:34 | kugel | pcm_set_mixer_volume() |
| 00:15:10 | kugel | since the first version |
| 00:15:17 | thomasjfox | kugel: I know. The first version of the maemo patch also made use of it |
| 00:15:34 | kugel | but? |
| 00:15:47 | thomasjfox | It was just very annoying to adjust the volume inside rockbox + adjust the master volume on the phone |
| 00:16:22 | kugel | you sounded like volume control isn't implemented on maemo |
| 00:17:04 | thomasjfox | It's not implemented on the maemo port of rockbox |
| 00:17:10 | thomasjfox | Though that "changed" with the software mixer |
| 00:17:20 | kugel | it is implemented |
| 00:17:26 | thomasjfox | And only with your recent cabbie changes it become intuitive to use |
| 00:17:47 | kugel | "volume inside rockbox" is what I mean |
| 00:18:18 | thomasjfox | anyhow, my goal for today was to commit the SDL optimizations patch and test your changes |
| 00:18:27 | thomasjfox | Both goals are accomplished :) |
| 00:18:34 | kugel | heh, nice. and thank you again |
| 00:18:44 | kugel | I guess I can commit it then |
| 00:19:11 | * | thomasjfox bets there will be red :o) |
| 00:20:05 | kugel | thomasjfox: you're saying since the software mixer rockbox controls the master volume? |
| 00:20:14 | kugel | I'm still confused |
| 00:20:26 | thomasjfox | kugel: No, the master volume stays unchanged |
| 00:20:40 | kugel | what changed then? |
| 00:20:40 | thomasjfox | master volume = host system volume |
| 00:21:19 | thomasjfox | It was my impression that it added support for changing the volume of the music channel inside rockbox |
| 00:21:45 | thomasjfox | Let me grab and build without software mixer |
| 00:21:46 | kugel | no, that's not added |
| 00:22:15 | kugel | while it can do this in theory, you can't control that. it's done automatically when voice is speaking |
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| 00:24:17 | thomasjfox | kugel: You're right. Even the old build can adjust the volume of the music with the up/down buttons |
| 00:25:16 | thomasjfox | argh. Now it gets clear to me |
| 00:25:32 | thomasjfox | Of course we adjust the volume on our own gstreamer channel |
| 00:25:40 | thomasjfox | But we don't touch the master host volume |
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| 00:27:04 | thomasjfox | I had experimental support to sync the master host volume to rockbox's gstreamer channel and that was just working like crap |
| 00:27:45 | kugel | oh, that's unfortunate |
| 00:27:50 | kugel | it works nicely on android |
| 00:28:37 | thomasjfox | I also remember why: |
| 00:28:54 | thomasjfox | If you push the master volume over a certain limit, the speaker protection kicks in |
| 00:29:31 | thomasjfox | The speaker protection is done in software and chews around ~12% extra CPU, no matter how loud the music is playing |
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| 00:31:29 | thomasjfox | kugel: Cu, gotta count some sheep. |
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| 00:44:41 | CIA-88 | New commit by kugel (r31548): Rework powermgmt to enable code re-use on appliation and sims. ... |
| 00:44:53 | CIA-88 | New commit by kugel (r31549): android: Add preliminary eclipse support for building the native code, disabled by default. |
| 00:47:36 | CIA-88 | r31548 build result: 53 errors, 4 warnings (kugel committed) |
| 00:50:07 | CIA-88 | r31549 build result: 52 errors, 2 warnings (kugel committed) |
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| 01:07:30 | CIA-88 | New commit by kugel (r31550): Fix reds by implementing a few more stubs, and undefining HAVE_STORAGE_FLUSH in the sim. ... |
| 01:09:45 | CIA-88 | r31550 build result: 0 errors, 2 warnings (kugel committed) |
| 01:10:48 | CIA-88 | New commit by kugel (r31551): android: move pcm_shutdown() to audiohw_close() now that it's properly called from powermgmt. |
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| 01:12:36 | CIA-88 | r31551 build result: 0 errors, 4 warnings (kugel committed) |
| 01:13:10 | CIA-88 | New commit by kugel (r31552): Fix beast warning. |
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| 01:15:05 | CIA-88 | r31552 build result: 0 errors, 2 warnings (kugel committed) |
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| 01:18:49 | kugel | git ci -va |
| 01:18:52 | kugel | grr |
| 01:19:25 | CIA-88 | New commit by kugel (r31553): Fix intermittent warning on sdl app build. |
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| 01:21:09 | CIA-88 | r31553 build result: 285 errors, 0 warnings (kugel committed) |
| 01:21:59 | funman | sizeof(tmp) -> temp? |
| 01:22:15 | funman | why is this code duplicated? |
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| 01:23:08 | CIA-88 | New commit by kugel (r31554): Fix oops. Too late now. |
| 01:24:57 | funman | kugel: can't cpufrequency and scalingfrequency be factored? |
| 01:25:04 | funman | they are only used in debug menu afaict |
| 01:25:06 | CIA-88 | r31554 build result: All green |
| 01:25:45 | kugel | funman: hm? |
| 01:25:46 | funman | frequency_linux(int cpu_number, bool cpufreq) /* cpu == !scaling */ |
| 01:26:07 | kugel | go ahead if you like |
| 01:26:19 | funman | which target use this? |
| 01:26:35 | kugel | all those which had lots of reds a few minutes ago :P |
| 01:26:45 | funman | true :) |
| 01:26:46 | kugel | hosted builds on linux |
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| 01:32:16 | deute | forum down? |
| 01:34:11 | CIA-88 | New commit by funman (r31555): *frequency_linux(): factorize |
| 01:34:26 | funman | deute: yes it's down for me |
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| 02:04:42 | Axe3 | Will my FM transmitter work with my ipod 30gig video if i install rockbox? |
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| 02:14:05 | funman | just try and tell us |
| 02:14:36 | funman | do you plug it on the jack headphones or on the apple usb port? |
| 02:15:05 | Axe3 | apple usb port |
| 02:16:43 | funman | some accessories work some don't, check on the wiki |
| 02:16:57 | Axe3 | thanks ill check it out i browsed the website but didnt see anything |
| 02:17:39 | Axe3 | also would i still use iTunes to put songs on my ipod |
| 02:18:03 | funman | you can but it's simpler to just copy paste folders |
| 02:18:28 | Axe3 | well if i can do that that would just be awesome lol |
| 02:19:04 | funman | if you can copy paste? |
| 02:19:56 | Axe3 | yes |
| 02:21:21 | Axe3 | what device do you use rockbox on |
| 02:25:32 | Axe3 | wait so i can have the original OS on my iPod AND rockbox? |
| 02:30:50 | funman | sure, check the manual it should have some FAQ |
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| 02:41:12 | alienkid10 | are the forums down for a known reason? |
| 02:41:33 | alienkid10 | I'm unable to connect for some reasion |
| 02:41:38 | alienkid10 | reason* |
| 02:42:10 | JdGordon | scorche|sh: ^ |
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| 03:47:38 | pocketprotector | yo guys, whats up with themes.rockbox.org? |
| 03:53:39 | JdGordon | the server it and the forums are on are down |
| 03:53:45 | JdGordon | scorche: ^? |
| 03:55:36 | pocketprotector | oh. well i have a very nice server if i can some how contribute to this project. |
| 03:55:58 | pocketprotector | i would not mind helping host the sites. |
| 03:56:34 | pocketprotector | its 10MBps up.. usually i get about 12-13 |
| 03:56:36 | JdGordon | I think we are fine for hosting, its just that server was being fiddled with recently and obviously not quite up again yet :) |
| 03:57:00 | pocketprotector | oh okay. |
| 03:57:19 | pocketprotector | maybe a mirror isn't such a bad idea |
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| 04:38:35 | evilwombat | Greetings |
| 04:38:52 | evilwombat | For Recorder devices, does Rockbox require a partition table, or can the entire disk be a VFAT filesystem? |
| 04:39:16 | evilwombat | (I am putting in solid state storage and want to avoid that whole partition-starts-on-a-flash-block-boundary mess) |
| 04:40:30 | JdGordon | I know we support superfloppy devices, not sure about for the main storage though |
| 04:40:42 | evilwombat | superfloppy? |
| 04:40:44 | funman | bluebrother^: Undefined symbols: |
| 04:40:44 | funman | "___memcpy_chk", referenced from: |
| 04:40:45 | funman | _swd_initdict in libuclppc.a(n2e_99.o) |
| 04:40:50 | funman | bluebrother^: with gcc-4.0 |
| 04:40:57 | funman | bluebrother^: building mkamsboot 1.5 |
| 04:41:08 | JdGordon | evilwombat: are you talking about a Archos recorder? |
| 04:41:11 | JdGordon | AJBR? |
| 04:41:20 | evilwombat | JdGordon, yes. ajbrec v1 |
| 04:41:39 | evilwombat | seems to work |
| 04:41:53 | JdGordon | why do you care about the speed penalty of the block boundaries? the usb->ata chip is only usb 1.0 anyway |
| 04:42:00 | evilwombat | dude, sweet! |
| 04:42:06 | JdGordon | no where near fast enough to notice the flash write speed issues |
| 04:42:11 | evilwombat | I have the usb2.0 version |
| 04:42:29 | evilwombat | also, wear penalty of modifying two blocks when one is enough |
| 04:43:11 | JdGordon | 99% of the disk will only be written to once |
| 04:43:24 | evilwombat | aah, ok |
| 04:43:46 | evilwombat | well, archos recorder + compactflash = success. |
| 04:44:14 | evilwombat | I found a nifty CF / IDE adapter which is shaped like a regular HDD. |
| 04:44:20 | evilwombat | and fits very nicely |
| 04:44:29 | evilwombat | Sandisk 8GB cf card |
| 04:44:52 | JdGordon | whatever floats your boat :) |
| 04:45:22 | evilwombat | RB seems very pessimistic about the low watermark, though... refilling waaay earlier than necessary. Spinup time, what's that? |
| 04:45:30 | evilwombat | oh well |
| 04:45:49 | evilwombat | i expect the battery life on this setup to be vastly increased. |
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| 05:10:40 | evilwombat | Assembled and appears to be working- now to stress-test the ATA bridge :) |
| 05:11:06 | evilwombat | The key thing is the shape of the CF/IDE adapter. This one has screw holes in all the right places. |
| 05:12:01 | JdGordon | you're doing it wrong if you cant get a CF card into the space for a 2.5" hard disk! |
| 05:12:30 | evilwombat | Well, the HDD is kind of part of the whole structure. I believe the 4 main screws actually screw into the disk mounting holes |
| 05:13:53 | evilwombat | This is the adapter I used- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812186098 |
| 05:14:34 | evilwombat | the ATA bridge and hte card play mostly nicely |
| 05:14:56 | evilwombat | I've had to power-cycle to get it to fully enumerate once, but that may just be usb-storage being dump again |
| 05:15:28 | evilwombat | I've grown so accustomed to expecting it to vibrate and then lag like hell whenever the disk light blinks |
| 05:18:59 | JdGordon | I put a 32GB CF in my ipod video |
| 05:19:03 | JdGordon | seems a massive waste in a AJBR |
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| 05:28:31 | evilwombat | JdGordon, how so? |
| 05:29:28 | evilwombat | The only other RB device I have is an H300, and that was randomly given to me by a friend after I had already gotten the CF adapter. |
| 05:29:52 | evilwombat | And the only other use I have for CF cards is booting an ancient ARM4, and the bootloader on there hates partitions >1GB, anyway |
| 05:30:44 | evilwombat | Now, putting one into the H300, THAT would be cool. But, need adapter |
| 05:31:06 | JdGordon | because its huge and clunky... if i wanted to use a AJBR I'd put in a 1T 2.5" disk and have all my music available |
| 05:31:39 | evilwombat | Ah, fair. My music collection is 4.6 GB, so no issues there. I will consider putting one into the H300 |
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| 06:21:33 | CIA-88 | New commit by funman (r31556): dbg_partitions: make static |
| 06:21:45 | CIA-88 | New commit by funman (r31557): dbg_ports() : move proto to system.h |
| 06:21:53 | CIA-88 | New commit by funman (r31558): dbg_ports(): remove duplicate prototype |
| 06:24:03 | CIA-88 | r31556 build result: All green |
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| 06:26:42 | CIA-88 | r31558 build result: All green |
| 06:29:25 | CIA-88 | New commit by funman (r31559): dbg_hw_info() : add prototype to system.h |
| 06:29:33 | CIA-88 | New commit by funman (r31560): dbg_hw_info(): remove duplicate prototypes |
| 06:30:07 | funman | most debug-target.h now only have a definition of "DEBUG_CANCEL" |
| 06:30:17 | funman | i guess we could use keymap context for that |
| 06:31:57 | CIA-88 | r31559 build result: All green |
| 06:34:20 | CIA-88 | r31560 build result: All green |
| 06:36:54 | JdGordon | funman: there is a action_get_userabort() which is better |
| 06:37:04 | JdGordon | thoguh that's all in firmware/ isnt it? |
| 06:37:42 | funman | no |
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| 06:38:21 | funman | action_userabort() ? |
| 06:39:04 | JdGordon | thats the one |
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| 06:52:29 | scorche | JdGordon: yeah - i upgraded something that should have been harmless and it stuffed everything up |
| 06:52:32 | scorche | working on it |
| 06:53:11 | scorche | i might have to re-do my entire apache config... |
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| 06:55:51 | JdGordon | oh joy |
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| 07:00:21 | [Saint] | gevaerts: will be happy. |
| 07:00:35 | [Saint] | No forum spam. |
| 07:07:21 | evilwombat | So yeah. This IDE adapter actually takes two CF cards (that is, master and slave). Though they lock me up at a mental institution for this, I'll still ask- what would it take to get RAID-0 working in RB, and on the host PC? |
| 07:08:17 | evilwombat | Wouldn't it just be hilarious to get the ATA bridge to export both block devices, apply mdadm to them, and teach rockbox to assemble the array? |
| 07:08:28 | * | evilwombat hides |
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| 07:13:35 | kugelp | funman: I would prefer to not move stuff that targets implement into general headers |
| 07:15:11 | kugelp | I'd rather make eg debug-target.h a common header |
| 07:16:04 | kugelp | but I realize we're not consistent there |
| 07:17:52 | funman | kugelp: well the function is general |
| 07:17:57 | funman | only implementation varies |
| 07:18:12 | funman | e.g. pcm driver |
| 07:20:04 | funman | mouarf |
| 07:20:11 | funman | cargo cult++ |
| 07:20:39 | funman | that button is defined almost everywhere but needed only in a few targets |
| 07:21:17 | CIA-88 | New commit by funman (r31561): dbg_pcf(): use action_userabort |
| 07:21:46 | kugelp | I do like the the way it was implemented for ata recently |
| 07:22:00 | funman | how? |
| 07:22:36 | kugelp | r31182 |
| 07:23:18 | funman | ok |
| 07:23:25 | funman | it can still be moved after though |
| 07:23:27 | kugelp | the functions aren't general, they specifically exist for the debug menu |
| 07:23:37 | CIA-88 | r31561 build result: All green |
| 07:23:39 | funman | yeah but they exist on every target |
| 07:23:58 | funman | there could be a debug-target.h in firmware/export if you really want |
| 07:24:02 | funman | *a* |
| 07:24:23 | kugelp | or debug-driver.h :-) |
| 07:24:58 | funman | :) |
| 07:27:38 | kugelp | such a file would be nice for lcd, backlight and more |
| 07:33:51 | CIA-88 | New commit by funman (r31562): sh/debug-target.h: move in .c |
| 07:33:55 | CIA-88 | New commit by funman (r31563): coldfire: move debug-target.h content in .c |
| 07:34:01 | CIA-88 | New commit by funman (r31564): imx31: move DEBUG_CANCEL definition to .c |
| 07:34:05 | CIA-88 | New commit by funman (r31565): s3c2440: move debug-target.h content to .c |
| 07:34:09 | CIA-88 | New commit by funman (r31566): pnx0101: debug-target.h content is not used |
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| 07:34:35 | CIA-88 | New commit by funman (r31570): PP: move DEBUG_CANCEL definition to .c |
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| 07:37:26 | CIA-88 | New commit by funman (r31573): imx233: move dbg function declaration to system-target.h |
| 07:38:38 | CIA-88 | r31572 build result: All green |
| 07:39:22 | funman | that leaves one target-specific function |
| 07:39:36 | funman | imx31: __dbg_dvfs_dptc() |
| 07:39:52 | funman | and 15 empty debug-target.h |
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| 07:59:25 | funman | jhMikeS: can imx31 __dbg_dvfs_dptc be merged in dbg_ports or dbg_hw_info ? |
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| 08:03:00 | jhMikeS | Here! I would say it's not really compatible. It would be better to give to rename it to whatever the cpu frequency screen is. |
| 08:03:29 | CIA-88 | New commit by funman (r31574): zenutils: remove unused empty file |
| 08:05:00 | jhMikeS | dbg_cpufreq I guess it is, which is mostly descriptive |
| 08:05:05 | funman | yeah |
| 08:05:28 | funman | but dbg_cpufrea is static to debug_menu.c |
| 08:05:42 | CIA-88 | r31574 build result: All green |
| 08:05:46 | funman | it debugs the cpufreq coutner afaik |
| 08:06:51 | jhMikeS | right. I'd keep the display unique string since it doesn't have a counter |
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| 08:07:34 | funman | perhaps we could move targe tspecific entries to target tree by using weak symbol |
| 08:08:00 | jhMikeS | I guess that's not a problem |
| 08:08:54 | pamaury | funman: why did you move dbg_hw_target from debug-target.h to system-target.h ? |
| 08:09:11 | funman | pamaury: i'll remove debug-target.h |
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| 08:09:45 | jhMikeS | funman: actually it is, since certain variables and functions don't exist on i.MX31 |
| 08:09:46 | funman | pamaury: feel free to move it again to imx233-specific-stuff.h |
| 08:10:03 | funman | jhMikeS: hm? |
| 08:10:31 | jhMikeS | it doesn't define HAVE_ADJUSTABLE_CPU_FREQ |
| 08:10:55 | jhMikeS | unless set from the debug screen, it's all automatic |
| 08:11:34 | funman | hm ADJUSTABLE_CPU_FREQ means boost/unboost |
| 08:12:17 | Wojtson | hello, could anybody know how I can restore original firmware (uninstall rockbox temporarily) in MPIO HD300 ? |
| 08:14:59 | [Saint] | The manual probably knows this. |
| 08:17:46 | funman | i think adding entries with NULL functions debug_menu.c' menuitems isn't going to work |
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| 08:29:43 | funman | fast solution: add an extern proto in debug_menu.c |
| 08:29:55 | funman | for __dbg_dvfs_dptc |
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| 08:42:05 | CIA-88 | New commit by funman (r31575): debug_menu.c: cleanup ... |
| 08:43:01 | funman | if we move functions from debug_menu.c to targe ttree and still declare them in debug-target.h, we'll still hav #ifdef in debug_menu.c |
| 08:44:31 | CIA-88 | r31575 build result: 35 errors, 0 warnings (funman committed) |
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| 08:48:53 | CIA-88 | New commit by funman (r31576): missing parens |
| 08:50:58 | funman | jhMikeS: http://pastie.org/3123316 ? |
| 08:50:59 | CIA-88 | r31576 build result: All green |
| 08:52:54 | funman | hm dbg_cpufreq proto neds to be somewhere |
| 08:55:43 | jhMikeS | Sure if we don't want a more descriptive string in that case |
| 08:56:00 | jhMikeS | I suppose it really doesn't matter |
| 08:56:18 | funman | and it'll only be yourself who look into this menu ever, right? :) |
| 08:56:45 | jhMikeS | I don't know. saratoga wanted to be able to set the speed for codec testing iirc |
| 08:56:49 | * | [Saint] wonders how hard/easy it would be to: a - include a link in the Rockbox commit log tweets, and b - string long commit messages into several tweets if needed instead of just the first 160 chars |
| 08:56:54 | funman | it still doesn't work, the protype needs to be in a public place |
| 08:57:06 | funman | dreamlayers want to enable -Wmissing-prototypes |
| 08:57:32 | jhMikeS | his mentioning it was a big reason I ever wrote that code |
| 08:57:42 | funman | ok |
| 08:57:52 | funman | why doesn't it use boost/unboost btw? |
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| 09:00:45 | jhMikeS | because the frequency is controlled automatically by hardware, if needs more it gets more all by itself, and it uses three frequencies in normal use |
| 09:01:20 | jhMikeS | it's automatic control for core voltage as well |
| 09:04:15 | jhMikeS | afaik it's unique in that respect from any other native target |
| 09:11:53 | jhMikeS | I suppose "boost" is possible in an indirect way by setting the load bits which add software load hints to the hardware's calculations |
| 09:15:53 | jhMikeS | nothing has behaved such as to really indicate it should be done. it works quite fine as-is with all the heavy-duty codecs and video |
| 09:17:37 | funman | looks cool indeed |
| 09:20:44 | desowin | does C99 actually allow declaring variable inside for initialization? |
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| 13:09:37 | pixelma | kugel: re FS #8778 - I believe amiconn said that it's not the right fix and can make things worse for some of these Ipods but can't remember details |
| 13:09:38 | fs-bluebot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8778 iPod 1G scrollwheel not enabled (patches, unconfirmed) |
| 13:10:29 | Torne | Bagder: when are you/zagor gonna be available to prod at git stuff some more? :) |
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| 13:20:29 | TheLemonMan | i smell mmu problems |
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| 13:45:47 | Misanthropos | first let me thank you for working on usb support for the clip+ - it seems to work well with resent r31536 |
| 13:47:32 | Misanthropos | while the #DEFINE HANLDE_USB_BY_OF is a compiler option - I wonder if a setting entry for "play while charging" would be welcomed - i like it, since i sometimes want to continue listening when I come to the office and have it recharged instead of moving files |
| 13:48:21 | [Saint] | This should be possible already. |
| 13:48:31 | Misanthropos | with the hide internal drive option? |
| 13:48:47 | gevaerts | no |
| 13:48:47 | Misanthropos | or how? |
| 13:48:59 | Misanthropos | because that did not work :) |
| 13:50:10 | gevaerts | hm, apparently that's not enabled on clip+ |
| 13:51:44 | gevaerts | Misanthropos: try holding a button while plugging in |
| 13:52:05 | Misanthropos | omg.. works.. thx :D |
| 13:52:42 | * | [Saint] does a happy dance. |
| 13:53:37 | [Saint] | I thought it should work, but gevaerts' "no" confused me so I backed away, I wasn't sure what it applied to. |
| 13:53:48 | Misanthropos | me neither :D |
| 13:53:50 | gevaerts | the manual wasn't updated apparently |
| 13:54:13 | [Saint] | Shock horror! :) |
| 13:54:26 | gevaerts | I thought the manual text would be derived from the actual options, but for some reason it's not |
| 13:54:52 | [Saint] | I actually thought it was too... |
| 13:55:24 | gevaerts | Well, it mostly is, but the AMSv2 situation is a bit special |
| 13:55:33 | [Saint] | Ah. |
| 13:57:24 | CIA-88 | New commit by gevaerts (r31578): USB chargung now works the normal way on AMSv2, so remove the hack that treated it differently. Also fix the fuze+ workaround for the lack of ... |
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| 13:59:20 | CIA-88 | r31578 build result: All green |
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| 14:14:26 | lorenzo92 | kugel: http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum/showpost.php?p=592352&postcount=548 |
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| 14:24:53 | [Saint] | lorenzo92: for what its worth |
| 14:24:59 | [Saint] | Oops. |
| 14:25:44 | [Saint] | For what its worth, a damaged rfs filesystem causes no additional CPU usage on any of my Sammy mobiles. |
| 14:26:24 | Torne | that doesn't really make any sense |
| 14:26:59 | lorenzo92 | ah don't ask me either...I don't really know how that could be possible! |
| 14:27:06 | Torne | The only thing i can see going crazy if the fs is broken is the initial dircache scan |
| 14:27:30 | Torne | but, if the fs is broken enough that that scan takes much longer/more cpu, then i would expect the fs is probably incomprehensible and it may never terminate |
| 14:27:35 | Torne | at which point, yeah, tough, your FS is broken |
| 14:27:50 | Torne | i can't imagine anything that would cause it to use loads of cpu and then *not also break completely* |
| 14:28:06 | Torne | having said that our FS implementations are not super rugged :/ |
| 14:28:18 | lorenzo92 | running fsck.vfat on pc, I got something like bad total cluster size + unknow fat number |
| 14:28:23 | Torne | Oh, wait, this is a linux device |
| 14:28:28 | lorenzo92 | yep :) |
| 14:28:41 | Torne | So yeah, it's probably not in our code at all that it's using the cpu then :) |
| 14:28:48 | Torne | !blame kernel |
| 14:29:27 | Torne | do we still do dircache on hosted platforms? |
| 14:29:45 | [Saint] | Afaik yea. |
| 14:29:55 | Torne | i guess that invovles just stat'ing everything on the vfs |
| 14:30:21 | Torne | i dunno what this "rfs" thing is but it sounds like there is some nonstandard filesystem foo going on |
| 14:30:44 | Torne | if that's implemented badly and it grinds to a halt on corrupt metadata then, yeah, stating everything is likely to do that :) |
| 14:31:48 | [Saint] | Hum...maybe not. Unless I've lost the setting somewhere. The menu seems to have changed on me. |
| 14:32:11 | Torne | if we *aren't* doing dircache, then i really don't know :) |
| 14:32:27 | Torne | but it seems sensible to default to blaming the people who built the kernel if there's a nonstandard fs driver involved |
| 14:32:33 | Torne | because people cannot code that stuff for shit |
| 14:32:41 | Torne | especially consumer hardware vendors :) |
| 14:34:09 | lorenzo92 | Torne: exactly :D |
| 14:34:28 | Torne | there's quite probably nothing we can do about that either |
| 14:34:33 | Torne | other than "fix kernel" |
| 14:34:35 | lorenzo92 | there is this rfs, well I found the source codes |
| 14:34:40 | Torne | what is it? |
| 14:35:02 | [Saint] | Wow...shit. I'm out of the loop. We can monitor CPU on raaa finally? |
| 14:35:04 | Torne | Oh, right |
| 14:35:04 | [Saint] | Wow. |
| 14:35:08 | Torne | it's another journalled fat |
| 14:35:16 | Torne | Yeah, I would expect this is totally broken. |
| 14:35:19 | lorenzo92 | no time now to explain as I have to go, but it's like a fat32 layer that *should* avoid errors lol |
| 14:35:36 | Torne | can you actually mount the disk over usb? |
| 14:35:41 | lorenzo92 | yes |
| 14:35:47 | Torne | then yeah, it's totally broken |
| 14:35:49 | Torne | by definition |
| 14:35:50 | lorenzo92 | it's a fat drive after all |
| 14:37:15 | Torne | i vote: replace it with ext4, impleemnt mtp :) |
| 14:37:24 | GodEater_ | +1 |
| 14:37:24 | lorenzo92 | hehe |
| 14:37:39 | lorenzo92 | not all users are linux guys :D |
| 14:37:46 | Torne | See under "mtp" |
| 14:37:52 | GodEater_ | all those attempts at journalling FAT just need to die in a fire |
| 14:37:54 | Torne | USB MSC is braindamaged. don't allow it. |
| 14:38:05 | Torne | GodEater_: psh! symbian rugged fat actually works. |
| 14:38:12 | Torne | (because it doesn't use a journal) |
| 14:38:22 | Torne | for a value of "works" that excludes anything bad that happens while it's mounted over USB MSC |
| 14:38:34 | GodEater_ | so it exploits a loophole in my pronouncement above then! |
| 14:38:36 | Torne | but that's also true of all the journalled fat's |
| 14:39:05 | GodEater_ | or presumably any file system at all |
| 14:39:11 | GodEater_ | if the FS driver is shoddy |
| 14:39:46 | Torne | Well, it's not true of, say, ext4, because if you mount an ext4 filesystem on the host then the host will also do journalling/barriers/etc |
| 14:39:49 | Torne | and thus your integrity gets preserved |
| 14:39:54 | Torne | because the fs actually has the integrity designed into it |
| 14:39:55 | GodEater_ | goddamn it - why does Spotify Mobile NEVER REMEMBER what I was listening to last |
| 14:40:07 | GodEater_ | I meant over MSC |
| 14:40:11 | GodEater_ | rather than mtp |
| 14:40:17 | Torne | Even over msc.. |
| 14:40:31 | Torne | It's not very *portable* to do so, but it's not unreasonable to unmount an ext4 disk, expose it over usb msc, then mount it again |
| 14:40:33 | lorenzo92 | I still need to see how much time does it need fsck.vfat on device's bootup.... |
| 14:40:36 | GodEater_ | I bet someone somewhere could write an EXT4 driver shitty enough :) |
| 14:40:48 | Torne | Well, yeah. but they mostly haven't :) |
| 14:40:54 | GodEater_ | good |
| 14:41:14 | gevaerts | DAPs should use those fancy cluster filesystems |
| 14:41:15 | Torne | Not sure if anyone has actually written an IFS that can write to ext4 |
| 14:41:26 | GodEater_ | IFS? |
| 14:41:31 | Torne | installable file system |
| 14:41:31 | GodEater_ | save me from acronyms |
| 14:41:39 | Torne | FS plugins for windows |
| 14:41:45 | GodEater_ | oh nice |
| 14:41:52 | Torne | there's an IFS that can *read* ext2/3/4 |
| 14:41:59 | Torne | and write ext2 at least. |
| 14:42:02 | GodEater_ | nifty |
| 14:42:05 | Torne | there's one that can write ext3 but it's *really dodgy* |
| 14:42:08 | Torne | or was last time i checked :) |
| 14:42:49 | GodEater_ | see? |
| 14:42:54 | GodEater_ | people write shitty FS drivers all the time! |
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| 14:44:06 | Torne | There are not that many, was all i meant. :) |
| 14:44:38 | Torne | there's only a few, and all but the "real" one are rarely used ;) |
| 14:45:23 | [Saint] | Some digging proves me mistaken...apparently there's no dircache on raaa...I wonder why? Its on other flash-based ports. |
| 14:45:44 | [Saint] | Because we dumbly walk the entire fs? |
| 14:46:10 | * | [Saint] shrugs. |
| 14:46:10 | GodEater_ | I don't understand the need for dircache on flash based targets? |
| 14:46:21 | gevaerts | [Saint]: it seems reasonable to assume that the underlying kernel does caching |
| 14:46:32 | GodEater_ | are there some which seem so dog slow we still think it's worth it? |
| 14:46:45 | [Saint] | No. |
| 14:46:51 | [Saint] | Not to my knowledge. |
| 14:46:53 | Torne | the other flash based ports have it because it's faster |
| 14:46:58 | Torne | don't they? |
| 14:47:11 | GodEater_ | faster than what? |
| 14:47:13 | GodEater_ | not having it? |
| 14:47:13 | Torne | i mean, the difference is not necessarily interesting |
| 14:47:16 | Torne | yeah |
| 14:47:29 | Torne | i would be stunned if there wasn't a trivially measurable performance improvement |
| 14:47:34 | Torne | i might be surprised if any humans cared |
| 14:47:37 | Torne | but that's different :) |
| 14:47:58 | GodEater_ | haha |
| 14:49:07 | [Saint] | If there is indeed a speed increase, its not perceivable by normal humans :) |
| 14:49:25 | [Saint] | I certainly can't tell if its enabled or no. |
| 14:49:55 | Torne | RAM is way, way faster than flash, and dircache answers questions with many less "roundtrips" as well |
| 14:50:02 | Torne | so yeah, it should be measurably faster ;P |
| 14:50:12 | Torne | but iv'e never had it turned on on my clipv2, so i dunno :) |
| 14:50:20 | GodEater_ | all praise to Cacheri |
| 14:52:11 | [Saint] | Debug - database info bothers listing "dircache ram: no", but its probably just not smart enough to not display that if there's no dircache. |
| 14:52:34 | [Saint] | Or, menu changes hid the setting REALLY well. |
| 14:53:54 | [Saint] | Whoops "RAM Cache: no" even. Get it right Hayden... |
| 14:57:02 | TheLemonMan | does UIE show the physical address in case of a data abort |
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| 15:03:21 | Torne | TheLemonMan: it does on the platforms where you can deduce it |
| 15:03:27 | Torne | i.e. the ones with an MMU |
| 15:03:40 | Torne | there is no way to find out on ARMs without cp15. |
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| 15:04:49 | Torne | it'll say "address 0xblah" if it can figure it out |
| 15:04:59 | Torne | if not then that cpu doesn't know. |
| 15:05:08 | TheLemonMan | oh, then the address makes sense |
| 15:05:12 | jlbiasini | pamaury: I've made a new patch to have usable keymaps in plugins games |
| 15:05:27 | pamaury | ok |
| 15:05:29 | Torne | the "at blah" is the PC address |
| 15:05:32 | pamaury | thanks |
| 15:06:33 | TheLemonMan | i think find_addr.pl can be safely used even on the bootloader map |
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| 15:13:36 | kugel | there's no dircache on raaa |
| 15:15:35 | [Saint] | I wasn't sure if I remembered incorrectly or not...and the debug |
| 15:15:46 | [Saint] | menu further confused |
| 15:15:47 | [Saint] | E |
| 15:15:55 | [Saint] | *me |
| 15:17:26 | [Saint] | Seems like it probably wouldn't be too hard for it to not display values for features that aren't actually present. |
| 15:19:22 | kugel | ? |
| 15:19:49 | [Saint] | "RAM cache: no" means! Not enabled, but could be" on the targets that have it...but seems to mean "not present at all" elsewhere. |
| 15:19:58 | kugel | that's the database menu |
| 15:20:23 | kugel | RAM cache isn't related to dircache :) |
| 15:20:54 | kugel | if dircache is available there's an extra dircache debug menu |
| 15:21:49 | [Saint] | Ah...I am getting screwed up tonight aren't I... |
| 15:22:03 | kugel | RAM cache is a feature of the db, that's available on RaaA |
| 15:22:28 | kugel | ah actually it isnt, but it could be |
| 15:23:14 | [Saint] | Yeah...just noticed its not present there. I was indeed mixing the two. |
| 15:24:47 | [Saint] | So my "debug menu should only display values for things that are present" still applies...I was just wrong about what I thought the string applied to :) |
| 15:27:01 | [Saint] | kugel: when did CPU stats sneak into raaa? |
| 15:27:19 | kugel | it's not only raaa, sim also |
| 15:27:32 | [Saint] | Its nice to not have to use OS Monitor to see when raaa is eating my MHz. |
| 15:27:46 | kugel | r31364 |
| 15:28:28 | kugel | OS monitor and rockbox are likely to not report the same numbers, though |
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| 15:30:23 | TheLemonMan | seems that the problem is in i2c_add_node, if i comment it out it gives a much nicer undefined instruction |
| 15:30:36 | [Saint] | Oh...indeed there is some difference. |
| 15:31:35 | [Saint] | +/- ~2MHz |
| 15:31:37 | kugel | you know, measuring the cpu usage already uses cpu. let alone displaying the results at the same tim |
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| 15:32:01 | kugel | then, on android, it makes a difference whether raaa is in foreground or not |
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| 15:32:56 | kugel | finally there are different methods to do the measurements and to sanitize the results |
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| 15:37:47 | [Saint] | ...wow. that's...interesting. |
| 15:38:23 | [Saint] | Holding a finger in one spot on the screen in the CPU stats menu causes up to 100% CPU usage. |
| 15:38:37 | [Saint] | Constant screen updates? |
| 15:39:48 | [Saint] | Yeah...scrolling is causing some huge spikes in usage. |
| 15:41:25 | [Saint] | 2%, to 50~100% just from holding a finger in one spot. |
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| 15:49:38 | * | [Saint] is interested as to whether or not anyone else sees these huge spikes in CPU usage from tricking the screen into updating like this. |
| 15:51:41 | [Saint] | Seems like a flaw in the scrolling. If my finger isn't actually moving, just resting on the screen, I don't think it should need to update a bajillion times a second ans slowly ramp the CPU up to 100% usage. |
| 15:53:33 | [Saint] | I might be wrong, but it seems like a "bad thing". |
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| 17:13:04 | GodEater_ | is it just me that can't see "z" in Magnus' email? |
| 17:13:08 | GodEater_ | or am I blind? |
| 17:13:35 | gevaerts | z is y :) |
| 17:13:39 | GodEater_ | ah |
| 17:13:44 | GodEater_ | that explains a lot :D |
| 17:14:04 | GodEater_ | I've re-read that email five times thinking "I'm missing something here" |
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| 17:55:13 | dfkt | is there some trick to rockbox apk creating/signing, so that i don't have to uninstall an older version before installing a newer one? |
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| 18:00:10 | bluebrother^ | no |
| 18:00:36 | bluebrother^ | if you build the apk on the same machine each time you don't need to uninstall first −− as long as the new apk is using the same certificate you're good. |
| 18:00:38 | [Saint] | You should never have to, provided the builds were signed by the same key. |
| 18:00:58 | bluebrother^ | the only problem is that the debug keys expire after 1 year :) |
| 18:01:07 | bluebrother^ | but that should be bearable |
| 18:01:35 | dfkt | weird, i always build in the same virtual machine, and i always have to uninstall |
| 18:01:50 | bluebrother^ | btw, it seems that building with ndk versions below r7 doesn't work anymore. Intentional? |
| 18:02:01 | [Saint] | bluebrother^: yes. |
| 18:02:09 | bluebrother^ | I usually update using make install. No problem for me. |
| 18:02:21 | bluebrother^ | [Saint]: why that? |
| 18:02:46 | [Saint] | Some change in what was explicitly linked. |
| 18:03:10 | [Saint] | ...something to this extent. |
| 18:03:17 | bluebrother^ | yes, but is it intentional to require the most recent ndk? Are we always following the latest ndk? |
| 18:03:43 | [Saint] | To target ics I believe of was necessary. |
| 18:03:52 | [Saint] | Usually, I don't think so. |
| 18:04:01 | [Saint] | *it was |
| 18:04:02 | dfkt | bluebrother^, i do make > make zip > make apk... i guess i don't need make zip, and when to use make install - as last? |
| 18:04:25 | [Saint] | You DO need make zip |
| 18:04:26 | bluebrother^ | dfkt: not completely sure. I usually use make && make zip apk install :) |
| 18:04:45 | dfkt | ah ok, so make install as last, thanks :) |
| 18:05:01 | bluebrother^ | well yes, it installs the apk to the device :) |
| 18:05:05 | [Saint] | dfkt: that wont fix it. |
| 18:05:19 | [Saint] | Something is busted in your setup. |
| 18:05:34 | dfkt | well, i always sideloaded manually, no push or something |
| 18:05:44 | bluebrother^ | is your VM killing the certificate store maybe? |
| 18:05:45 | [Saint] | That's not a pro lem. |
| 18:05:57 | dfkt | different patches used in builds won't affect the signing for sure? |
| 18:06:00 | [Saint] | I sideload also. |
| 18:06:06 | bluebrother^ | no |
| 18:07:04 | dfkt | make apk complains about being deprecated in my setup, maybe that's an issue |
| 18:07:08 | [Saint] | Something with your signing is busted I figure.. |
| 18:07:15 | [Saint] | And no, that's fine. |
| 18:07:27 | dfkt | hmm, ok, thanks |
| 18:07:28 | [Saint] | Make apk *is* depricated. |
| 18:07:45 | [Saint] | But, that's fine. |
| 18:08:20 | dfkt | guess i will have to deal with uninstalling and recreating shortcuts/widget, it's not that much of an issue anyways |
| 18:08:44 | dfkt | at least less hassle than setting up a new build environment :) |
| 18:09:01 | [Saint] | Really? |
| 18:09:13 | [Saint] | ...if you say so lol |
| 18:09:45 | dfkt | :) |
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| 18:52:40 | CIA-88 | New commit by bluebrother (r31579): Extend flashing hint a bit. ... |
| 18:54:14 | [Saint] | Is anyone aware what handles the commit tweets? And, if there's any code I can be nosey at? |
| 18:54:39 | [Saint] | I swear it could be done in a way that makes it...useful. |
| 18:54:42 | CIA-88 | r31579 build result: All green |
| 18:56:05 | [Saint] | I'd really like to include a link to the commit, and the string long commit messages across multiple tweets when needed. |
| 18:56:36 | [Saint] | But I can't seem to find what is handling the sending of said tweets. |
| 18:56:59 | [Saint] | *to string |
| 18:58:18 | bluebrother^ | we have commit tweets? |
| 18:58:27 | [Saint] | We do indeed. |
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| 18:59:13 | Bagder | http://twitter.com/rockboxcommits |
| 18:59:26 | Bagder | talk to Zagor about the details of that |
| 18:59:57 | [Saint] | Ah...hmmm. I never seem to catch him. |
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| 19:00:25 | [Saint] | As they are now, they're not entirely useful. |
| 19:00:42 | * | bluebrother^ uses the RSS feed instead |
| 19:01:16 | [Saint] | Does it include a link to the commit its announcing? |
| 19:01:40 | [Saint] | That's what I want out of twitter... |
| 19:01:50 | bluebrother^ | well, people following some of the commit message templates that are common among git users might improve that. Simply take the first line as short description and post only that |
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| 19:03:50 | [Saint] | My "problem" is, twitter notifies me of a commit and I think "oh, I want to look at that", and I've got to go search of out manually. |
| 19:04:11 | [Saint] | I'd really like to just click a link if I want to. |
| 19:05:54 | bluebrother^ | works fine with the RSS feed :) |
| 19:06:05 | bluebrother^ | well, it includes a link to the full commit message only, though. |
| 19:06:32 | [Saint] | Yeah...I'd like to be taken to the diff. |
| 19:07:05 | bluebrother^ | never bothered too much about that −− the diffs are usually still on the front page, so it's not too far away :) |
| 19:07:49 | [Saint] | But then I have rom launch the browser, it smacks of effort! :p |
| 19:08:01 | [Saint] | *to launch |
| 19:09:19 | bluebrother^ | my browser is almost always open :) |
| 19:09:44 | [Saint] | On your phone? :) |
| 19:13:26 | bluebrother^ | no, but I usually don't read diffs on the phone |
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| 20:09:08 | remlap | Hi is m4b album art supported folder.jpg doesn't seem to work for it |
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| 20:11:19 | gevaerts | remlap: folder.jpg should work |
| 20:11:32 | gevaerts | Are your files progressive jpegs maybe? |
| 20:12:45 | remlap | ah never mind |
| 20:12:46 | remlap | it was png |
| 20:12:52 | remlap | thanks gevaerts |
| 20:12:56 | remlap | now a jpg and fine |
| 20:15:02 | gevaerts | Ah, good :) |
| 20:15:13 | remlap | why it had jpg extension |
| 20:15:15 | remlap | I have no idea |
| 20:19:03 | CIA-88 | New commit by bluebrother (r31580): Rockbox Utility: add support for mkimxboot bootloader. ... |
| 20:20:48 | CIA-88 | r31580 build result: All green |
| 20:41:54 | lovasoa | kugel: latest svn refuses to build for the 0: I get rockbox/samsungYPR0/firmware/libfirmware.a(system-ypr0.o): In function `system_init': |
| 20:41:56 | lovasoa | system-ypr0.c:(.text+0x20): undefined reference to `gpio_init' (And i made a make veryclean) |
| 20:42:17 | funman | isn't the ypr0 in the build system yet? |
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| 20:49:06 | kugel | lovasoa: works for me |
| 20:51:44 | lovasoa | kugel: So why do I get this error. I checked that system_init() is defined in gpio_ypr0.c, but this file doesn't seem to be compiled during the build |
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| 20:54:31 | kugel | lovasoa: what does make $PWD/firmware/target/hosted/ypr0/gpio_ypr0.o do? |
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| 20:56:46 | lovasoa | kugel: /firmware/target/hosted/ypr0/gpio_ypr0.o doesn't exist. gpio_ypro.c does not compile! |
| 20:57:29 | kugel | lovasoa: the command should create the file |
| 20:57:36 | kugel | 'make $PWD/firmware/target/hosted/ypr0/gpio_ypr0.o' |
| 20:58:02 | lovasoa | kugel: Aah. OK I try this |
| 20:58:26 | kugel | perhaps you have local changes? gpio_ypr0.c is in svn, and added to sources properly |
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| 20:58:55 | lovasoa | I have the gpio_ypro.c from svn |
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| 21:00:01 | lovasoa | make tells me "No rule to make blabla" |
| 21:00:31 | kugel | look if the file is on firmware/SOURCES |
| 21:03:29 | [Saint] | kugel: any thoughts on scrolling in raaa causing insane CPU usage? |
| 21:06:31 | [Saint] | All my raaa devices are showing really high CPU usage caused by scrolling, well, actually not even scrolling...just holding a finger in one spot on the screen. |
| 21:07:32 | kugel | yes because it's updating the screen very oftem |
| 21:08:41 | kugel | the "doesn't even move by one pixel" case isn't considered because it's so unlikely; you usually don't do this and even then you probably move by a pixel or to without noticing |
| 21:10:37 | [Saint] | I did some playing around to get the statusbar displayed, and holding a finger on the screen uses more CPU than flac playback with peak meters in the wps |
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| 21:11:00 | [Saint] | Which I had considered to be a "worst case scenario". |
| 21:11:36 | [Saint] | (Statusbar was so I could watch os monitor) |
| 21:12:10 | kugel | why flac? |
| 21:12:34 | kugel | flac is probably the cheapest codec after wav :) |
| 21:13:08 | [Saint] | It seems to eat more CPU than the mp3s I have. |
| 21:13:40 | kugel | http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/CodecPerformanceComparison#Qualcomm_MSM7227_40ARM1136_45EJS_41_Android |
| 21:14:24 | [Saint] | That's....interesting. that's my CPU, but, not my experience... |
| 21:14:58 | kugel | anyway, user interaction is the most expensive operation |
| 21:16:06 | kugel | you want it both smooth and without latency |
| 21:16:30 | kugel | so it's driving cpu mad, especially updating the diplay |
| 21:16:38 | [Saint] | Something just seems really wrong to me that scrolling can use up to 100% CPU...I just can't shake that feeling. I'm probably not looking at it right, it just feels wrong to me. |
| 21:19:04 | kugel | it's doing lcd updates at the max. framerate |
| 21:22:30 | [Saint] | Wouldn't something like ~25 fps still be just as smooth? |
| 21:22:55 | [Saint] | Or, a barely notable difference at best? |
| 21:27:17 | kugel | perhaps |
| 21:27:35 | kugel | I don't see a reason to cap it though |
| 21:29:43 | [Saint] | Well...scrolling in a very long list could in theory be enough to eat all available CPU. |
| 21:29:54 | [Saint] | Smells like a reason to me. |
| 21:30:25 | [Saint] | (If it could be avoided) |
| 21:33:37 | CIA-88 | New commit by learman (r31581): AAC/M4A: Playback time wrapped after 2 hours and 42 minutes. Increase the wrap limit to about 27 hours. |
| 21:35:14 | CIA-88 | r31581 build result: All green |
| 21:39:14 | lovasoa | kugel: I managed to compile the latest revision. I had a modified firmware/SOURCES. I made a "svn revert". :) |
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| 21:49:34 | [Saint] | "svn stat" ftw. |
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| 22:06:50 | blind_tester | rockbox is great! i configured a sansa clip+ for a blind friend. talk-files are present for files+dirs. during selection i can hear the talk. but if i start at title 1 and i am now at title 3: how can i determine the actual title using talk? there is an option where i can *see* the title info but thats not enough for him. |
| 22:15:02 | blind_tester | I have developed a ruby script which scans a folder recursive, examines the file- and dirnames, rates the text (italian, english, german) and creates .talk-files using Mary TTS. I don't want to spend much time in registering as a developer etc. - is anybody here, who would take the source, have a look at it and maybe add it to http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/VoiceHowto#Automated_generation_of_.talk_clips ? |
| 22:19:16 | kugel | blind_tester: you can register on the wiki, with your real name. then I can give you write accesses in a second |
| 22:20:41 | blind_tester | Thank you! |
| 22:24:25 | bertrik | Can someone tell me more about the recent USB fixes? Have we actually identified and fixed real problems with AMSv2 USB, for example? |
| 22:33:45 | funman | bertrik: USB just works |
| 22:34:05 | funman | there are still a few problems though, that TheSeven is investigating |
| 22:34:06 | bertrik | cool, but how did it get fixed? |
| 22:34:43 | funman | in one or several of my numerous commits, dunno which ones exactly |
| 22:38:11 | bertrik | funman, does your clip zip display get a reddish tint when setting a low brightness? |
| 22:38:20 | bertrik | (or some other tint) |
| 22:40:36 | funman | yes |
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| 22:44:18 | blind_tester | I tried to register for the wiki but i am not sure if all is fine. Can i get write access for my my account (MichaelArlt)? |
| 22:46:10 | TheSeven | blind_tester: done |
| 22:46:19 | blind_tester | Thank you! |
| 22:47:41 | blind_tester | I have found 2 errors in deutsch.lang: "Einschalten in %d..." should be "Einschalten" and "%d Hz-Band Verstärkung" should be "Hz-Band Verstärkung" (in my opinion). |
| 22:48:21 | TheSeven | so it is shown as "<number> %d Hz-Band ..." on the player? |
| 22:49:13 | blind_tester | Aehm in the in voice (for creating the talk files) |
| 22:49:35 | TheSeven | hm |
| 22:49:41 | * | TheSeven is not sure how that stuff works |
| 22:50:00 | TheSeven | %d is usually a placeholder for a numeric value |
| 22:50:37 | blind_tester | % is only in <source> and <dest> - normally not in <voice> - only in these 2 translations... |
| 22:51:24 | TheSeven | only in the german language or in others (especially english) as well? |
| 22:51:47 | blind_tester | the text is used to generate the voice before %d is known. he would talk "%d" :-) |
| 22:53:07 | funman | perhaps it could talk the real number |
| 22:53:08 | blind_tester | no - in english is no % −−> swcodec: "hertz band gain" |
| 22:55:00 | bertrik | hm, so maybe the number is added programmatically |
| 22:55:01 | blind_tester | but it makes no sense to pregenerate a talk-file which talks "%d Hz-Band Verstärkung" and talk "25" before. the result would be: "25 %d Hz-Band Verstärkung" |
| 22:55:10 | CIA-88 | New commit by gevaerts (r31582): Reorganise USB initialisation to not depend on a specific enumeration sequence, by Bartosz Fabianowski, with minor tweaks by Michael Sevakis ... |
| 22:55:23 | funman | blind_tester: talk engine would skip the "%d" of course |
| 22:56:38 | blind_tester | it can't skip it. the rockbux utility generates the talk-files using espeak and it gives espeak "%d Hz-Band Verstärkung"... so what do you think will espeak generate? |
| 22:57:47 | CIA-88 | r31582 build result: 0 errors, 78 warnings (gevaerts committed) |
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| 22:58:49 | blind_tester | Have a look at english.lang - no %d - only: "hertz band gain" |
| 22:59:52 | funman | blind_tester: true |
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| 23:02:08 | funman | who is our talk expert? |
| 23:02:22 | funman | the %d should probably implemented, or removed from all voice strings |
| 23:03:31 | [Saint] | Does of not voice numerals in this instance? |
| 23:03:38 | [Saint] | *it not |
| 23:03:39 | bertrik | the code for this string first does talk_number(*setting, false); then talk_id(LANG_EQUALIZER_GAIN_ITEM, true); |
| 23:04:11 | bertrik | so the %d in the voice string appears to be redundant |
| 23:05:15 | blind_tester | bertrik: Thank you |
| 23:07:10 | CIA-88 | New commit by gevaerts (r31583): Move some variable declarations to inside #ifdef USB_FULL_INIT, to avoid warnings for bootloaders that don't have the full USB state machine |
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| 23:09:23 | CIA-88 | r31583 build result: All green |
| 23:09:59 | megal0maniac | Hi, all. Could anyone with a little more insight than myself, please tell me whether there is hope for a stable port for the Fuze+? |
| 23:11:06 | bertrik | there is always hope :) |
| 23:12:02 | megal0maniac | I'm just curious, because the Clip Zip port happened extremely quickly. But am I correct to assume that most of the work was already done with the Clip+? |
| 23:12:22 | bertrik | yes |
| 23:12:44 | gevaerts | The fuze+ is basically not related to any of the earlier sansa players, while the clip zip is basically a clip+ with a different screen |
| 23:13:27 | gevaerts | The fuze+ port seems to be advancing nicely these days |
| 23:15:09 | n1s | bertrik: correct, the voice doesn't handle printf style place holders (how could it with pregenerated clips?) |
| 23:15:39 | n1s | this could perhaps be a feature if we get an integrated tts some time which would simplify a lot of code |
| 23:15:57 | megal0maniac | I see. Despite the bugs, it's running 100x better than the OF, which is embarrassingly slow in my humble opinion. What would "Cannot create buffering thread" mean? MPEG Player throws it when attempting to play any video, even known supported formats. |
| 23:15:58 | [Saint] | n1s: I thought it spoke individual digits in these cases. |
| 23:16:09 | n1s | pixelma: is the de facto maintainer of deutsch.lang i think so perhaps she would like to fix them |
| 23:16:16 | [Saint] | Like "one zero zero MHz" |
| 23:16:46 | n1s | [Saint]: it can do that but that is not done like this |
| 23:16:54 | [Saint] | Ah. |
| 23:17:14 | blind_tester | nls: but don't drop support for talk-files if you have an embedded tts - only if you support automatic language detection and have several voices :-) |
| 23:17:32 | n1s | you then need to talk_number(number); talk_id(lang_id); |
| 23:17:47 | blind_tester | nls: language detection for the file- and foldernames :-) |
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| 23:18:12 | n1s | blind_tester: yeah, it could probably never completely replace off line pre generated files |
| 23:19:18 | n1s | [Saint]: it could probably be done by spelling the whole string a digit/letter at a time after filling in the numbers with sprintf :) |
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| 23:28:25 | adnap | anyone else having problems with rockbox force screen locking on android? |
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| 23:36:49 | blind_tester | For all who are interested: The ruby script which recursively creates language specific .talk files is online: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/VoiceHowto#Automated_generation_of_.talk_clips . |
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| 23:55:16 | megal0maniac | What can I do to help speed up development of a port, apart from actual development. I can't do much more than compile a clean build, but I'm keen to assist |
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