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| 00:00:17 | CIA-88 | New commit by jethead71 (r31589): Coldfire: Fix alpha bitmap drawing from messing up the emac status register. ... |
| 00:00:29 | max131 | i can build the bootloader myself, i also do run mkamsboot to patch the OF, but i don't find on the wiki anymore a description of how to turn the bootloader.bin into a bootloader.sansa file |
| 00:01:05 | funman | max131: 'make' does that already |
| 00:01:10 | max131 | otherwise i am willing to give a couple of tries to determine at which point the USB issues started |
| 00:02:01 | saratoga_ | max131: you don't need to change the bootloader to test this, just rockbox builds |
| 00:02:14 | CIA-88 | r31589 build result: All green |
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| 00:04:38 | max131 | well, i am definitely sure it worked with the r31083 and now it doesn't anymore |
| 00:04:57 | max131 | and the only change i did was a change of bootloader |
| 00:05:46 | saratoga_ | most of the early USB builds worked intermittently |
| 00:06:15 | max131 | ok, to make it a bit more complete: i had r31083 patched with as3525v2-enable-usb.diff |
| 00:06:58 | max131 | pity it does not work at all anymore on my Sony VAIO |
| 00:07:00 | saratoga_ | max131: FWIW, r31083 doesn't have USB support |
| 00:07:05 | saratoga_ | oh a patched build |
| 00:07:11 | saratoga_ | yeah that will probably not work |
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| 00:07:28 | [7] | funman: I'm pretty much stuck |
| 00:07:36 | funman | oh? |
| 00:07:57 | [7] | for some odd reason the OTG dislikes having multiple IN transactions at the same time |
| 00:08:23 | max131 | well, what is confusing then is that on the MajorChanges wiki page, it indicates 'USB enabled on Sansa AMSv2' |
| 00:08:31 | [7] | judging from the linux kernel source this problem is not unknown, but they circumvent it by not using DMA at all, which I think is not an option for us |
| 00:08:50 | saratoga_ | max131: yes, USB is now enabled, but it wasn't back in early December |
| 00:09:02 | [7] | the workaround would be to add mutexes (or some more trivial guard) to ensure that there is only ever one IN transfer at a time |
| 00:09:16 | [7] | this does of course increase the risk of deadlocks if the host doesn't behave properly |
| 00:09:31 | [7] | and it still didn't solve the HID trouble... no idea what's going on with that |
| 00:09:58 | max131 | what does it actually mean the 'USB is now enabled', if it does not work in Windows 7? |
| 00:10:23 | saratoga_ | max131: it means that the USB driver is compiled and enabled on the device |
| 00:10:45 | max131 | ah ok, i understand now |
| 00:11:12 | saratoga_ | FWIW aside from you, most people report that it works on Windows 7 |
| 00:11:43 | funman | max131: it's enabled so we get reports when it doesn't work |
| 00:11:47 | saratoga_ | funman, [7]: do either of you know anything about the state of the USB audio driver and AMS? |
| 00:11:56 | funman | [7]: why isn't PIO not an option ? |
| 00:12:15 | funman | saratoga_: audio driver is pamaury's work and not committed afaik, gevaerts might know |
| 00:12:25 | max131 | well, on another laptop running Windows 7 it is working, but it takes about 20 seconds or so before i see the USB driver letters popping up |
| 00:12:35 | [7] | I'd think PIO is even slower than having only one IN transaction at a time |
| 00:12:58 | funman | FS #11644 might have benches |
| 00:12:59 | fs-bluebot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11644 Playlist isn't loaded after reboot if it had ended (patches, new) |
| 00:13:09 | funman | no, not this one :) |
| 00:13:25 | [7] | max131: that's normal |
| 00:13:28 | funman | FS #11664 |
| 00:13:29 | fs-bluebot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11664 Workaround for usb random failures on amsv2. (patches, closed) |
| 00:14:08 | [7] | windows reads the whole FAT while mounting the volume, and that can take a while, especially if storage or the usb driver is rather slow or possibly buggy |
| 00:14:28 | [7] | it also depends on the cluster size the volume is formatted with |
| 00:14:35 | funman | no there are no benchmarks |
| 00:14:36 | [7] | the smaller the clusters, the longer it takes, almost linearly |
| 00:14:54 | funman | [7]: doesn't the usb storage driver have a cache? |
| 00:15:05 | [7] | on the host or device side? |
| 00:15:43 | funman | device |
| 00:15:47 | max131 | the other strange thing i do notice is that on this particular laptop the USB-letters just show up for a second when extracting the USB cable |
| 00:15:48 | [7] | nope |
| 00:15:56 | [7] | and windows issues single-sector reads while reading the fat |
| 00:16:06 | [7] | so you'll get a storage_read_sectors_md() call for every fat sector |
| 00:16:53 | [7] | not particularly efficient :) |
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| 00:25:41 | max131 | ok guys, i'm gonna try this on a couple of different computers in the forthcoming days, i'll keep you posted. bye |
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| 00:30:16 | r4y | Hello, I have an RCA mp3 player model th1814wm-a which will no longer mount, but I can play music from. I clicked safe removal and waited like I was supposed to so I don't know what caused this problem. I am running Ubuntu 10.04 LTS. |
| 00:30:44 | r4y | I didn't find rca on your site. |
| 00:32:31 | megal0maniac | Which version of Rockbox are you running? |
| 00:33:14 | megal0maniac | Oh wait. Are you running Rockbox at all? |
| 00:33:25 | r4y | I was told about Rockbox and haven't tried it yet |
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| 00:35:32 | saratoga_ | r4y: rockbox doesn't run on your player |
| 00:36:17 | megal0maniac | Someone with a little more Linux experience may be able to help you out, but honestly, I don't think that this is the best place to find an answer to your problem. |
| 00:36:59 | r4y | hmm, well TY for trying to help me. |
| 00:37:54 | r4y | I guess I will have to upgrade the firmware using Windows and if that doesn't work return it. |
| 00:38:04 | r4y | See you. |
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| 00:43:45 | megal0maniac | On my Fuze+, occasionally the music will start playing faster, but with no pitch change, and there is "garbage" audio. Logic tells me that it's dropping samples. Usually after opening and closing a plugin. Restart usually fixes the problem, but what technical information should I gather when experiencing this behaviour? |
| 00:44:04 | megal0maniac | I see that the buffer is quite full, but it's also quite full when operating correctly |
| 00:44:42 | saratoga_ | i think theres a flyspray task about that |
| 00:45:07 | megal0maniac | Hmmm... I didn't find one, but I'll check again... |
| 00:46:19 | funman | bluebrother^: http://pastie.org/3134557 |
| 00:46:29 | funman | bluebrother^: lipo: mkamsboot-ppc and mkamsboot-i386 have the same architectures (ppc) and can't be in the same fat output file |
| 00:48:17 | megal0maniac | I haven't found anything. But back to my question, what debug info should I look for when this happens? |
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| 00:52:12 | megal0maniac | Is there some kind of changelog between builds? I can't seem to reproduce the problem on the latest build. |
| 00:52:32 | saratoga_ | megal0maniac: yes, see the svn logs on the front page |
| 00:52:56 | megal0maniac | Thanks. Sorry, I'm kinda new at this |
| 00:58:04 | bluebrother^ | funman: huh? lipo shouldn't be involved anymore at all. |
| 00:58:34 | bluebrother^ | and that "make RBARCH=i386" looks like either something went wrong or you're using an outdated Makefile |
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| 00:59:11 | bluebrother^ | though I have to admit that I forgot trying to build the dmg |
| 00:59:40 | funman | libtools.make ? |
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| 01:00:30 | bluebrother^ | yes. |
| 01:01:52 | bluebrother^ | ah, that's a dependency on mkamsboot-dmg |
| 01:03:18 | bluebrother^ | ok, that's still broken :/ |
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| 01:33:19 | funman | JdGordon: ping |
| 01:33:27 | JdGordon | burp |
| 01:33:42 | funman | is it possible to extend the menuitems in debug_menu.c ? |
| 01:33:55 | funman | I would like to have either entries with a NULL function |
| 01:34:14 | funman | either a pointer to another set of entries that would be displayed together in this menu |
| 01:34:30 | JdGordon | that should be doable |
| 01:34:33 | funman | e.g. extended_menu which could be NULL or pont to target-specific additional entries |
| 01:35:29 | JdGordon | a submenu would be easier i tihnk |
| 01:35:31 | funman | point* |
| 01:35:42 | JdGordon | but what you want is probably doable |
| 01:35:48 | funman | good idea |
| 01:36:04 | funman | we could but at least dbg_ports amd dbg_hw_info in that submenu |
| 01:36:13 | funman | the goal is move all the target code back into firmware/target |
| 01:36:30 | JdGordon | all the drawing code needs to stay in apps though |
| 01:36:35 | JdGordon | well, should stay in apps |
| 01:36:44 | funman | yeah sure |
| 01:37:10 | funman | first candidate is the only user of debug-target.h |
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| 01:41:05 | funman | what does run_debug_screen do ? |
| 01:41:24 | funman | gives a shortcut to a specific entry of the menu? |
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| 02:09:39 | JdGordon | funman: sounds about right |
| 02:10:36 | funman | JdGordon: you want to work on this? or give me some pointers? |
| 02:11:03 | JdGordon | busy at work, so not at the moment :) |
| 02:11:23 | funman | no hurry i guess |
| 02:11:38 | funman | though i'm tempted to mov e that prototype in debug_menu.c |
| 02:12:09 | funman | dreamlayers: didn't Wmissing-prototypes warn about debug_menu.c ? |
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| 02:25:19 | Mir | so i googled my clip issue today |
| 02:25:29 | Mir | ended up finding the log file for this channel |
| 02:25:33 | Mir | it was amusing |
| 02:25:35 | Mir | :D |
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| 07:14:52 | curtism | does rockbox have an option to display time left of a track on the WPS? |
| 07:16:09 | funman | i remember seeing it so very likely. |
| 07:24:36 | curtism | would it be a configuration option or something in the WPS theme? because i've looked around in the settings and didn't see anything |
| 07:30:52 | funman | depends on the theme |
| 07:44:21 | JdGordon | its entirely up to the theme |
| 07:44:24 | JdGordon | most show it |
| 07:45:11 | JdGordon | funman: buzz me next week about the debug menu thing, i should have time late sunday night (my time) or monday |
| 07:47:12 | funman | JdGordon: okay thanks! |
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| 08:32:59 | * | [Saint] wonders when bluebrother^ is going to port rbutil to android :) |
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| 08:33:29 | [Saint] | I mean, didn't you hear? PCs are dead :p |
| 08:34:27 | [Saint] | Seriously though...rbutil on an Android tablet/device_with_USB_host would be pretty cool. |
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| 08:38:37 | [Saint] | On a kinda related note...how hard/easy would it be to push notifications of updates to RaaAoA? |
| 08:39:56 | [Saint] | Roughly: "Get notified of update, option to 'dismiss' or 'update now'" |
| 08:40:53 | [Saint] | Derp. That's the Market's job isn't it...lol, nevermind me. |
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| 08:47:51 | JdGordon | [Saint]: yep.. well the way it should be done is market updates for the java bits, and have that manually download the librockbox.so on request/automatically so the apk isnt 5MB |
| 08:47:59 | JdGordon | and yes, rbutil to get themes would be ncie |
| 08:48:06 | JdGordon | iirc there is a tracker task to do it |
| 08:49:46 | [Saint] | Not just that...I'd like to be able to plug <DAP> into <android_device_with_USB_host> and do a full installation. |
| 08:51:11 | JdGordon | ah, you were asking for android support in rbutil then, which is not really what you said :) |
| 08:51:52 | [Saint] | "port rbutil to android" isn't that? |
| 08:52:19 | JdGordon | that means "make rbutil run on android".... |
| 08:52:36 | JdGordon | anyway, unless it had adb integrated the best it could do is push the apk to the sdcard |
| 08:52:46 | [Saint] | Yes...still not seeing a problem. |
| 08:53:39 | JdGordon | not saying there is a problem, just pointless |
| 08:53:47 | JdGordon | the apk should be smarter and on the market though |
| 08:56:13 | [Saint] | I don't think its necessarily *pointless*...it'd probably be a lot of work, but I for one would enjoy being able to do full installs and updates, grab themes, make voice/talk clips for my DAPs from my android devices. |
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| 09:02:38 | funman | rbutil.rock |
| 09:06:03 | [Saint] | rasher: ping? |
| 09:06:31 | [Saint] | rasher: in case you're not aware...your android builds haven't updated in 4 days. |
| 09:06:50 | [Saint] | I suspect you need to update your NDK |
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| 09:12:17 | [Saint] | rasher: unless I'm greatly mistaken, r31543 broke your automated builds. Though updating the SDK (I said NDK above, in error, apologies) should kick things back to life again. |
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| 09:22:11 | User006 | Hello after installing rockbox on an ipod video 30 gig is it safe to delete the folders: iPod_Control / Calendars / Contacts etc. |
| 09:22:22 | User006 | basicaly delete every folder but .rockbox? |
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| 10:15:20 | r4y | I want to buy a cheap 4 to 8 Gigabite mp3 player that is the most compatible with rockbox. I don't want it for video. I have bought from tigerdirect and newegg before. I have only owned an rca mp3 player which will not currently mount that I want to return |
| 10:15:53 | r4y | Also I want it to be compatible with Linux. |
| 10:17:33 | r4y | I didn't see this link before: http://build.rockbox.org/ |
| 10:18:13 | [Saint] | Have a look at the rockbox.org main page, supported targets are lusted there. |
| 10:18:17 | [Saint] | Whoops. |
| 10:18:21 | [Saint] | *listed |
| 10:18:39 | [Saint] | ...just pick something you like. |
| 10:19:31 | nick_p | r4y: Sandisk Sansa Clip+ is good, plus one of the only ones in production |
| 10:19:32 | nick_p | http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/BuyersGuide |
| 10:19:39 | [Saint] | One of the SanDisk players would probably suit you. |
| 10:20:19 | r4y | Sorry, your right, TY |
| 10:20:22 | [Saint] | A ClipV1 or V2, Clip+, or a FuzeV1 or V2 |
| 10:21:15 | [Saint] | All of which are cheap and available second-hand or refurbished |
| 10:21:16 | r4y | TY for the link. $50 for 20 GB, wow |
| 10:23:29 | [Saint] | You can just get a 2GB Clip or Fuze, and buy a ~2-4GB (up to 32GB if you want...) micro sdcard |
| 10:24:12 | bluebrother^ | [Saint]: I don't see that going to happen (the Rockbox Utility on Android thing) |
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| 10:24:41 | CIA-88 | New commit by bluebrother (r31590): Remove OS X special universal binary handling. ... |
| 10:25:16 | [Saint] | bluebrother^: I suspected it would be a lot of work... I can dream, though :) |
| 10:25:24 | r4y | Looks like Sandisk Sansa Clip+ is my best bet. Thank you for the help. |
| 10:26:02 | [Saint] | If you don't mind a monochrome screen, its a nice player. |
| 10:26:20 | r4y | I am glad I came here to ask. TY for having an irc channel for rockbox. |
| 10:26:39 | CIA-88 | r31590 build result: All green |
| 10:27:28 | [Saint] | Happy to help those that come in here with a great attitude and an interest in Rockbox. |
| 10:28:01 | r4y | I was recently told about it a few weeks ago |
| 10:28:01 | bluebrother^ | sure. |
| 10:28:40 | bluebrother^ | I want to make Rockbox Utility use lame.dll / libmp3lame.so directly as next change. Should simplify setup for TTS on Archos devices. |
| 10:28:56 | r4y | I have this rca th1814 which will not mount on Windows and Linux it seems |
| 10:29:14 | r4y | It still plays music and can hold 4 GB |
| 10:29:15 | bluebrother^ | seems there isn't _any_ template / default for encoding voice clips for them :o |
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| 10:31:18 | r4y | Windows said this th1814 mp3 player is set to mtp mode and the easyrip software said it needs to be set to msc mode, but I don't know how to change it, but I would rather get an mp3 player that is more compatible with Linux |
| 10:32:36 | Tuggers | i'm interested in doing google summer of code this year, specifically the audio codec optimization |
| 10:32:42 | Tuggers | I have asm experience (MIPS, 6502) but not ARM experience |
| 10:33:11 | Tuggers | do you know any good guides to learn ARM NEON? |
| 10:34:34 | Tuggers | also how do you test the rockbox code? do I need to buy an audio player to test code on? |
| 10:35:18 | [Saint] | We do have simulators, but a physical target is best. |
| 10:35:39 | gevaerts | For optimisation work you'd need a real target, yes. |
| 10:36:04 | gevaerts | I'd like to recommend not spending money on gsoc thins at this point in time yet though |
| 10:37:37 | gevaerts | We don't know at all yet if we're going to be in (or even if there will be a gsoc 2012, to be complete), so while studying and preparing at this time is fine (knowing things is never useless), but it's *much* too early to really count on things |
| 10:38:19 | * | gevaerts can't answer the ARM questions. Maybe saratoga? |
| 10:38:29 | gevaerts | he's on US time though |
| 10:38:56 | [Saint] | As for NEON, that would only apply to RaaA would it not? |
| 10:41:13 | Tuggers | yeah now that I think about it I bet there's not a lot of music players with Cortex based cpus in them |
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| 10:41:51 | Tuggers | so let me modify that, any good guides for ARM v4/v5/v6? |
| 10:43:46 | r4y | OK, so then will this one do?: http://tinyurl.com/6nhlwto |
| 10:45:00 | Tuggers | I read a guide for GBA programming (uses an ARM7TDMI/ARMv4), but I assume the ARMv5/v6 are fairly different in how they're set up |
| 10:48:37 | nick_p | r4y: yes looks good, not in US, but price seems about the same in UK - black 8gb is usually the best deal |
| 10:49:14 | r4y | TY for helping me out. This is going to be great. |
| 10:49:19 | nick_p | r4y: hang on - refurbished? sure you could get it new for that |
| 10:49:35 | gevaerts | Tuggers: I'd recommend hanging around for a while. We don't have *that* many specialists... |
| 10:50:17 | r4y | IDK |
| 10:50:27 | [Saint] | r4y: nick_p: this is probably *-community talk now. |
| 10:51:13 | r4y | I am sorry, TY for guiding me. |
| 10:51:36 | Tuggers | gevaerts: OK I can idle |
| 10:52:41 | [Saint] | r4y: No worries, you weren't to know. #rockbox-community is the "stuff not related to Rockbox/development specifically" channel. |
| 10:53:05 | r4y | OK, that's neat |
| 10:54:47 | r4y | I don't have much more to say. Wouldn't refurbished be cheaper. I noticed nick_p isn't there. I am about leave. Sorry for post here after what you just told me. |
| 10:57:28 | r4y | It's crazy that models come and go so fast |
| 10:57:56 | [Saint] | Depending on the supplier, a refurb is likely cheaper yes. Its probably also cheaper to get, say, a 2GB player and a 6GB sdcard than it is to get an 8GB player as well. |
| 10:59:06 | [Saint] | Have a look around, good deals pop up from time to time. |
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| 11:00:51 | r4y | I would prefer more room not just because I can store more, but becuase more room means more space around the files. From what I read Linux puts space between files where as Windows does not which is why Windows needs to be defragged evenually. But I am guessing that that is way over simplified compared to the true reality of it. |
| 11:02:00 | r4y | I mean tranfering files it would make it easier I would theorize but I know very very little about this |
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| 11:07:57 | r4y | I mean very little. |
| 11:12:59 | r4y | Thank you all, sorry for posting almost useless info. Take care. |
| 11:13:35 | r4y | Thank you Saint and Nick_p |
| 11:14:00 | r4y | bye :) ,I didn't know this was the devs channel |
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| 12:47:20 | prof_wolfff | hi all, i am using Rockbox on an ipod classic 80Gb for about 3 moths, its great!!!, TY to all people making it possible |
| 12:48:16 | prof_wolfff | there was a few issues on this port, so downloaded the source code and made some patches mainly based on nano2g port |
| 12:49:29 | prof_wolfff | now i am very happy with my ipod, the running time is doubled and it seems more stable (normal use, no exhaustive testing) |
| 12:50:46 | prof_wolfff | i think maybe other people could use and test it on other classic models |
| 12:51:43 | prof_wolfff | but i dont know how to post the patches, just resgister and post? |
| 12:52:32 | bluebrother^ | post them to the tracker. Or even better, discuss them first. Either here or on the mailing list |
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| 12:56:30 | prof_wolfff | one patch fixed the L-R channels that were inverted on my ipod |
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| 12:58:33 | prof_wolfff | ported some code from nano2g source and now the framerate is also doubled tweaking the PHTIME register like nano2g does |
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| 12:59:27 | [Saint] | Define "fixed", does it just swap the channels...or is it configurable? |
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| 13:00:11 | [Saint] | With the stock Apple phones, I believe the channels are correct. |
| 13:00:18 | prof_wolfff | it configures the I2S register to invert the clock signal |
| 13:00:23 | bluebrother^ | hmm, make voice tries to run the cross compiler? |
| 13:00:27 | [Saint] | *headphones |
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| 13:00:43 | pixelma | bluebrother^: for the features, no? |
| 13:01:34 | [Saint] | prof_wolfff: yes...but, is it linked to a menu setting? (The "right" way to do this IMO) |
| 13:01:44 | rarog | pamaury: hello, I'm currently looking into the problem of windows showing only one drive (usually internal) and I have some test results from a diagnostic tool. is there an open bug for this? |
| 13:01:51 | prof_wolfff | also cpu scaling is working on my ipod, and lcd sleep for lcd_display type 1 |
| 13:01:58 | bluebrother^ | pixelma: not sure. I thought features.txt uses the hosted cpp instead. |
| 13:02:07 | bluebrother^ | well, building the sh compiler for now ... let's see |
| 13:02:14 | pixelma | prof_wolfff: TheSeven knows most about the newer Ipods, maybe try to get his attention (consider him pinged now ;) ) |
| 13:02:27 | rarog | or should I just add it to FS #12458 |
| 13:02:28 | fs-bluebot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12458 [Fuze+] The SD card is not reported in usb mode (bugs, new) |
| 13:02:40 | [Saint] | He's on holiday I think |
| 13:02:58 | prof_wolfff | i think the i2s setup was wrong, CPU was sending one format and the CODEC expecting other |
| 13:02:59 | [Saint] | TheSeven I mean. |
| 13:03:06 | bluebrother^ | yay. binutils doesn't build on this machine :( |
| 13:03:47 | TheSeven | prof_wolfff: sounds like you volunteer to maintain these ports? :) |
| 13:03:49 | pixelma | and for what it's worth, I don't agree with [Saint]'s view on the right fix |
| 13:04:19 | TheSeven | seriously, not many people are digging that deep to get stuff fixed... |
| 13:04:46 | prof_wolfff | i own a classic and i can do some programing / testing |
| 13:05:08 | TheSeven | and you apparently have no fear of reading datasheets and poking at HW registers :) |
| 13:05:17 | TheSeven | what exactly did you change? |
| 13:05:33 | TheSeven | did clock scaling work out of the box when you enabled it? |
| 13:05:54 | TheSeven | how much did that impact battery runtime? |
| 13:06:11 | prof_wolfff | I2STXCON = 0xb100859 instead 0xb100059 |
| 13:06:58 | TheSeven | so that's swapping LRCK polarity on the SoC sideß |
| 13:07:03 | prof_wolfff | cpu scaling was very unstable but getting the pmu polling out of the ISR seems to work |
| 13:07:22 | TheSeven | huh, which ISR? |
| 13:09:07 | prof_wolfff | the holdswitch routine was polling the pmu (using i2c), running from timer interrupt |
| 13:09:20 | TheSeven | eeeek |
| 13:09:26 | TheSeven | that explains a lot of trouble |
| 13:09:31 | TheSeven | i2c isn't irq-safe at all |
| 13:09:52 | TheSeven | so the hold switch detection is run from a tick task!? |
| 13:10:25 | prof_wolfff | yes, i get out and put it on the powermgmt thread and now moving the clickwheel dont break |
| 13:10:48 | * | TheSeven falls off his chair |
| 13:11:00 | TheSeven | this might well be the bug i was hunting for for *months* |
| 13:11:13 | [Saint] | \o/ |
| 13:11:16 | prof_wolfff | on other ipods holdwitch can be detected reading an GPIO but on classic port it is done reading the pmu |
| 13:11:17 | TheSeven | it's always the most trivial things... |
| 13:11:35 | TheSeven | yeah, i didn't find a gpio that reflected the hold switch state |
| 13:11:47 | * | bluebrother^ helps TheSeven getting up again |
| 13:11:50 | TheSeven | and it seems like at least diagmode reads it from a pmu gpio as well |
| 13:12:13 | pamaury | rarog: can't remember, I'm not sure, in doubt open one and we'll merge or redirect if it's a duplicate |
| 13:12:16 | prof_wolfff | i also search for the GPIO port, but cant find it |
| 13:12:22 | prof_wolfff | :) |
| 13:12:38 | pamaury | rarog: ah indeed, FS #1245 is fine |
| 13:12:38 | fs-bluebot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/1245 Resume playlist in the same way as if you rebooted (feature, closed) |
| 13:12:52 | pamaury | oops, FS #12458 |
| 13:12:52 | fs-bluebot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12458 [Fuze+] The SD card is not reported in usb mode (bugs, new) |
| 13:13:25 | TheSeven | hm, looks like the same might happen with charger_inserted() as well |
| 13:13:36 | TheSeven | that's run from the USB tick task and is probably doing I2C as well |
| 13:13:48 | rarog | pamaury: ok, as far as I see, almost everything is set identical by OF and Rockbox, but yet some values are different and I'm not sure if they are relevant to the problem. |
| 13:14:46 | pamaury | probably not but reported everything you can. If you hide the first drive, the sd card is 100% reliable ? |
| 13:14:46 | prof_wolfff | on my patch charger inserted is reading GPIO, so i think it is not dangerous, it also detect external adapter |
| 13:14:59 | TheSeven | ok |
| 13:15:04 | * | TheSeven is impressed |
| 13:15:11 | TheSeven | how on earth did you find that bug? |
| 13:15:44 | prof_wolfff | TY, i am more impressed with all the Rockbox work |
| 13:15:47 | * | TheSeven still isn't sure what it has to do with clock scaling, but it would explain a lot of random lockups at least |
| 13:16:36 | prof_wolfff | when lowering cpu the i2c transfer takes more time, so the probability of collisions increases, i think that is the reason |
| 13:17:54 | rarog | yes, then the sd card shows up. |
| 13:18:17 | rarog | and I can read and write the data. |
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| 13:19:49 | rarog | I updated the bug with the report. |
| 13:19:59 | TheSeven | hm, if everything works right, the I2C transfer time doesn't change much, it's more bound to the I2C clock which shouldn't change. |
| 13:20:35 | TheSeven | if it does though, that could explain some more things |
| 13:20:46 | rarog | rockbox seems to be sending hub/port data "Hub 4, Port 6", while OF doesn't do this at all. rockbox also doesn't set any serial number, but this should be irrelevant I think. |
| 13:20:49 | prof_wolfff | to catch the bug takes me days, i begin loking at the clickwheel functions, it conduces me to i2c section |
| 13:21:02 | TheSeven | maybe an IRQ gets in between the two clkcon writes? |
| 13:21:15 | TheSeven | we might want to do an IRQ lockout in that function |
| 13:21:31 | gevaerts | rarog: hub and port data? |
| 13:22:02 | prof_wolfff | there is a mutex on the i2c_read/write, using it into an interrupt maybe it can get looked forever |
| 13:23:24 | rarog | gevaerts: yes... I'm not completely sure, what this means, but this is reported by the diag tool, I used. |
| 13:23:43 | funman | classic works => new usb-s3c6400x target?! \o/ |
| 13:24:11 | gevaerts | rarog: that's data that's not transferred over USB at all |
| 13:24:56 | rarog | but it's reported. |
| 13:25:09 | prof_wolfff | for cpu scaling i am dividing by 2 everything (bus and cpu clocks), then the i2c transfers takes me double time (40us @216MHz vs 80us @108MHz), but that clock can be indevidually doubled when unboosting |
| 13:25:16 | gevaerts | not by rockbox |
| 13:25:32 | rarog | but they are only shown if I connect to usb with rockbox. |
| 13:25:49 | rarog | they are not reported by diag tool if I connect usb with OF. |
| 13:26:46 | rarog | pamaury: ok, I have another idea, why this might fail while looking into windows registry. I have different keys for rockbox ##?#USBSTOR#Disk&Ven_Rockbox&Prod_Internal_Storage&Rev_0.00#6&2e474e3a&0#{53f56307-b6bf-11d0-94f2-00a0c91efb8b} and ##?#USBSTOR#Disk&Ven_Rockbox&Prod_SD_Card_Slot&Rev_0.00#6&2e474e3a&2#{53f56307-b6bf-11d0-94f2-00a0c91efb8b} which was created only when I connected with... |
| 13:26:48 | rarog | ...internal drive hidden. |
| 13:26:49 | gevaerts | One possible reason could be that the diag tool (or the OS) uses hub and port as a unique identifier if there's no serial number |
| 13:26:51 | prof_wolfff | i also lowered the cpu voltage to 1.1V and it looks stable |
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| 13:27:49 | pamaury | rarog: ok, try the following: plug your device, open the device manager and uninstall it. Then unplug and replug |
| 13:27:59 | rarog | With OF there seem to be two keys: ##?#USBSTOR#Disk&Ven_SanDisk&Prod_Sansa_Fuze+&Rev_0100#000000010000120B0002DCDA908B920B&0#{53f56307-b6bf-11d0-94f2-00a0c91efb8b} and ##?#USBSTOR#Disk&Ven_SanDisk&Prod_Sansa_Fuze+&Rev_0100#000000010000120B0002DCDA908B920B&1#{53f56307-b6bf-11d0-94f2-00a0c91efb8b} |
| 13:28:24 | rarog | usingsame name but with two enumerations... |
| 13:28:30 | rarog | I can try this. |
| 13:28:45 | pamaury | gevaerts: do we report the serial number ? What needs to be implemented for this to work ? |
| 13:29:23 | gevaerts | pamaury: you need an implementation of set_serial_descriptor() for your platform in usb_core.c |
| 13:29:54 | bluebrother^ | hmm. Why does Rockbox Utility use a Quality value of 8 for rbspeex while make voice uses 4? |
| 13:30:00 | pamaury | there is not generic mechanism for this ? SD cards all have a serial number of something no ? |
| 13:30:31 | gevaerts | That would work for internal SD, yes |
| 13:31:01 | rarog | uninstalling and reinstalling just brings back one device. |
| 13:31:04 | bluebrother^ | seems there is quite a bit of work to do :/ |
| 13:31:14 | gevaerts | We have PP ipod, AS3514 (i.e. e200v1 and c200v1, maybe some more), and ATA |
| 13:31:16 | rarog | depending on the hiding setting the internal storage or the sd card. |
| 13:31:27 | gevaerts | Adding more semi-generic methods like sd should work |
| 13:32:03 | pamaury | but that's more a problem of windows trying not to reprobe by caching the device configuration. |
| 13:32:08 | pamaury | rarog: so does it work now ? |
| 13:32:30 | rarog | no, still only one device at time with rockbox, not both drives. |
| 13:33:00 | pamaury | even after uninstalling and windows redoing the installation ? |
| 13:33:05 | rarog | yes. |
| 13:33:10 | n1s | gevaerts: doesn't the as3514 have a unique serial or something too? |
| 13:33:24 | gevaerts | n1s: yes, that's why I mentioned it :) |
| 13:33:30 | n1s | aha :) |
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| 13:34:41 | pamaury | I'll try to see if the imx233 has such a mechanism, or I'll compare see what the OF does |
| 13:35:17 | rarog | what I could try would be deleting also all settings from CurrentControlSet in the registry to have again just really clean settings. |
| 13:35:25 | TheSeven | prof_wolfff: you should really submit that to flyspray... this looks like it may well be a major improvent for that port :) |
| 13:35:36 | rarog | and then copying the registry settings. |
| 13:36:41 | prof_wolfff | i think so, i will try todo that this weekend, i am getting 22h30m running time while playing flac |
| 13:37:01 | TheSeven | hm, this is getting close to what apples reaches :) |
| 13:37:54 | pamaury | apparently the imx233 has support for a unique id in hardware but it's not clear where it is stored |
| 13:38:34 | TheSeven | the fun fact is that apple doesn't do clock/voltage scaling at all |
| 13:39:44 | prof_wolfff | i dont know that!, i was thinging they do scaling, how can it be explained? |
| 13:40:13 | TheSeven | heh, no idea |
| 13:40:36 | pamaury | rarog: does the OF report a serial number ? |
| 13:40:44 | rarog | Yes. |
| 13:40:44 | prof_wolfff | lcd sleep saves a lot of power on my ipod, but scaling much more |
| 13:41:02 | rarog | 000000010000120B0002DCDA908B920B is the serial number reported by it. |
| 13:42:05 | pamaury | rarog: do you have windows or a virtual machine running windows ? |
| 13:42:14 | rarog | Real windows. |
| 13:43:25 | pamaury | do you know the BitBurner tool from Freescale ? |
| 13:43:26 | prof_wolfff | i am very nervous with the volumen when listeing to music, to save power i include an option on the settings menu to not to awake lcd (it its sleeping) when touching the screenwheel |
| 13:44:38 | rarog | Not yet. |
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| 13:45:43 | pamaury | ok, do you have a Freescale account to download it ? It's there: http://www.freescale.com/webapp/sps/site/prod_summary.jsp?code=i.MX233&fpsp=1&tab=Design_Tools_Tab, it's in the IMX_OTP_TOOLS |
| 13:46:01 | pamaury | otherwise I can send it to you by mail. It allows to read the OTP bits |
| 13:46:52 | rarog | No freescale account, so mail would be better. |
| 13:46:55 | [Saint] | prof_wolfff: all ipods with LCD sleep could do with that, IMO. |
| 13:47:05 | [Saint] | That sounds like a nice idea. |
| 13:47:44 | [Saint] | "Don't wake on volume change" I mean, in case it was non-obvious. |
| 13:48:20 | rarog | I attached the created registry settings, though I don't know if they are show only the symptoms or also give clues to the original problem. |
| 13:48:22 | prof_wolfff | all hardware that HAVE_LCD_SLEEP and HAVE_SCROOLWHEEL support the option (ipods and sansas) |
| 13:48:58 | [Saint] | Ah, right. Forgot about the sansas. Thanks. |
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| 13:49:27 | [Saint] | Yes, very nice idea. |
| 13:49:55 | prof_wolfff | and for me it saves lots of power :) |
| 13:51:18 | [Saint] | I could be wrong...but I'd be willing to say that has a high chance of being committed. |
| 13:51:36 | [Saint] | I would certainly like to see it go in. |
| 13:51:58 | pamaury | prof_wolfff: that looks interesting. Actually, not waking up the screen on volume update with any device that has physical volume keys sounds interesting |
| 13:52:20 | * | [Saint] nods. |
| 13:52:40 | prof_wolfff | my current patches are based on an 29xxx version i will try to update them to the las release and post it as soon as i can |
| 13:52:46 | [Saint] | One of those "why did no one think of that before?" kinda things :) |
| 13:55:28 | prof_wolfff | :) well.. i was a pain for me to touch the clickwheel, the patch was very simple so i do it, latter i added the option to the menu |
| 13:56:14 | funman | pamaury: physical volume keys? you mean as opposed to scrollwheel? |
| 13:56:21 | funman | or touchpads/screens |
| 13:57:33 | pamaury | some device don't have a physical volume keys. For example the not-yet-rockboed-creative zen xfi2, only a touchscreen |
| 13:57:46 | prof_wolfff | it can be done but not with this patch, the work is done on the clickwheel section, but later it can be moved to the button one |
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| 14:00:26 | TheSeven | prof_wolfff: if we figure that out what apple is doing differently, the clock scaling advantage will be the bonus runtime :) |
| 14:00:37 | TheSeven | that's the 50+ hours part :) |
| 14:01:56 | prof_wolfff | yes, cant imagine what is the 'trick' but it is a very interesting thing |
| 14:02:34 | TheSeven | possibly some still unknown sleep states of some components of the SoC |
| 14:03:42 | TheSeven | measurements show that the OF (sitting in the main menu) consumes less power than emCORE with zero CPU load (the CPU just waking up for a couple of microseconds every ~10 seconds to check for work) |
| 14:05:55 | prof_wolfff | thats is amazing, the datasheet mentioned something about an sleep state at 32KHz intended for displaying the clock screen |
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| 15:10:21 | TheSeven | prof_wolfff: yeah, but you can't possibly feed i2s data at those clock speeds |
| 15:10:50 | TheSeven | while audio is playing you'll have to keep the AXI/AHB/APB/whatever clocks at sane speeds |
| 15:11:12 | topik | [Saint]: sounds a bit like FS #9305 |
| 15:11:13 | fs-bluebot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/9305 Context sensitive backlight on key press (patches, unconfirmed) |
| 15:11:17 | TheSeven | and AFAICT apple keeps the AXI clock at >200MHz all the time |
| 15:12:02 | * | TheSeven wonders if they possibly shut down the DDR3 memory controller and play audio from an IRAM buffer |
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| 15:40:02 | prof_wolfff | TheSeven: maybe menu browsing can be handled using only interrupts (clickwheel, pmu...) to awake the CPU for the time necesary to process the event |
| 15:42:13 | prof_wolfff | but the importan thing is while playing music, its not probable apple is disabling DDR while they dont do cpu scaling, the IRAM seems too small and the HDD spinup/down will probably eat the battery |
| 15:45:17 | prof_wolfff | one thin i can imagine at this moment is using IRQ driven DMA and some dedicate HW to do the work while the CPU is sleeping and the buses are at full speed, the support only a few codecs, maybe the s5l7002 have some kind of DSP (7000 does) and the audio playback is done by hardware, awakening the cpu only on keypress??? |
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| 15:58:29 | jlbiasini | bagder: and anyone with acces to server. Now we have Rockbox Utility handling mkimxboot. pamaury already uploaded a tagged bootloader file that is ready to go on the server. It is here: http://www.mediafire.com/?pjpwe8pi8hdah3n |
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| 16:11:36 | prof_wolfff | TheSeven: sorry, you talk about disabling ram *controller* not the ram itself, i think its a great idea, i wonder if the ram can be put on some 'sleep' state while the controller is disabled |
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| 17:16:14 | pamaury | TheLemonMan: if you are interested, I've written a program that generates a nice PDF with the differences between the stmp3700 and stmp3780 registers |
| 17:16:55 | TheLemonMan | pamaury: you mean imx23 ? |
| 17:17:13 | pamaury | yeah, stmp3780=imx233 |
| 17:18:00 | TheLemonMan | oh cool, send it :) |
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| 17:19:10 | TheLemonMan | the thread switcher goes nuts here, i suspect its a mmu problem but im not sure about how to debug it |
| 17:20:28 | CIA-88 | New commit by jethead71 (r31591): Coldfire: lcd_update call got dropped from dbg_hw_info. Replace. |
| 17:22:26 | CIA-88 | r31591 build result: All green |
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| 17:26:06 | asper | hi guys |
| 17:26:08 | asper | heppy 2012 |
| 17:26:27 | asper | I would like to know if someone has the HEX file for the REMOCLONE hardware |
| 17:26:44 | asper | I am able only to find schematics in the rockbox homepage |
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| 17:29:42 | pamaury | TheLemonMan: it's not perfect, here is the result: http://amaury.pouly.free.fr/Images/stmp37xx.pdf |
| 17:31:21 | pamaury | I can't remember who are the others working on an stmp3700, there is possibly low_light but I've not seen him in a while |
| 17:33:00 | TheLemonMan | my bsp code is not yet ready for merging but i can upload it to my github to share the efforts |
| 17:34:06 | pamaury | yes that would be nice, although I would like to reuse as much as the existing code as possible of course |
| 17:35:01 | TheLemonMan | well my code is just the imx233 folder with the address/bitfields adjusted |
| 17:35:09 | TheLemonMan | and the gpmi module i'm slowly working on |
| 17:36:19 | pamaury | I noticed there are a few nasty differences though, for example the power subsystem is quite different when it comes to charging it seems |
| 17:37:50 | saratoga | pamaury: now that USB is working on AMSv2, how hard would it be to adapt the USB audio driver to it? |
| 17:37:50 | TheLemonMan | well thats a pretty far point in the roadmap heh |
| 17:38:11 | pamaury | and the stmp3700 uses the apbh/x dma while the imx233 has a dedicated dma for a few peripherals like lcdif |
| 17:39:55 | pamaury | saratoga: I already tried the conversion with the old driver but it didn't work for some reason, in its current state it requires quite a rewrite of the driver plus I don't really know how isochronous transfers work on the AMSv2 |
| 17:40:16 | saratoga | hmm that doesn't sound promising |
| 17:40:37 | pamaury | It's not hard though, the first step would be to convert the driver to the new api |
| 17:40:44 | saratoga | i'm curious after seeing some tests of various external sound cards showing most of them losing to the clip+ |
| 17:43:03 | pamaury | I'll see what I can do but someone who worked on the driver recently would probably do the work quickier (at least for the conversion part). Perhaps funman is motivated :) |
| 17:43:28 | saratoga | if i ever get free time again, whats a good way to learn about USB? |
| 17:44:42 | pamaury | reading the code, read usb in a nutshell, read the spec, try to write/change a driver (like the serial one), look at usb drivers (like linux ones) |
| 17:45:16 | pamaury | unfortunately that would also require to sync my changes with current HEAD, I don't think that's difficult, it just requires more time |
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| 17:51:03 | pamaury | I'll see what I can do, I understand this feature might have gained some interest with the ams players |
| 17:51:16 | pamaury | and with the fuze+ also |
| 17:53:23 | saratoga | yeah |
| 17:53:33 | saratoga | previously it was fairly pointless on the available software USB targets |
| 17:54:02 | saratoga | the newer ones are actually pretty respectable vs. < $200 external USB devices |
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| 17:57:44 | TheSeven | prof_wolfff: yes, the ram can be put into self-refresh mode |
| 17:58:15 | TheSeven | and it is very well possible to play audio from IRAM and keep the DDR controller disabled most of the time |
| 17:58:40 | TheSeven | and wake up, say once a second, to let the codec decode some more audio from ddr (mp3) to iram (pcm) |
| 17:59:04 | TheSeven | i doubt that they have dedicated decoding hardware, decoding audio doesn't really eat much CPU on these modern ARM cores |
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| 18:00:46 | saratoga | for that to be worthwhile, you would have to keep the CPU clocked fairly high or else have very little cost to going into and leaving self refresh mode |
| 18:00:56 | bluebrother^ | is voice not working in the sim for HWCODEC targets? |
| 18:01:07 | * | bluebrother^ guesses not |
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| 18:07:31 | jlbiasini | hello all! in something like: "pluginlib_getaction(HZ/2, plugin_contexts, ARRAYLEN(plugin_contexts))" HZ/2 is the prequancy of testing button, isn't it? |
| 18:07:47 | jlbiasini | *frequenzy |
| 18:11:56 | jlbiasini | bluebrother^: could you commit my patch on the rockbox manual? It is incomplete (only half of it has been writtenand readed, until end of plugins game) but would like to see what I could improve in plugin before going and writing stuff that I would rewrite otherwise... And I would like to avoid correcting my patch if other patch are done in the meantime.... |
| 18:14:23 | bluebrother^ | jlbiasini: you're talking about FS #12492? |
| 18:14:24 | fs-bluebot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12492 add fuze+ manual (patches, unconfirmed) |
| 18:14:32 | jlbiasini | yes |
| 18:15:02 | jlbiasini | the file that are in the will not get further edited |
| 18:15:13 | bluebrother^ | ok |
| 18:15:27 | bluebrother^ | I was about to leave in a minute, will give it a look in a couple of hours |
| 18:15:39 | jlbiasini | except if I rewwrite all plugin with PLA but we are talking about in 10 year! :D |
| 18:15:49 | jlbiasini | thank! |
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| 18:29:30 | prof_wolfff | TheSeven: yeah!, it sounds very well, and while the CPU is decoding the data the DMA can update the LCD when needed, really it should first update the framebuffer and then launch the DMA, and/or use the scrolling capabilities on LCD controller for some regions of the screen |
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| 18:33:33 | prof_wolfff | the LCD DMA is not working very well for me, after changing the PHTIME register y get 50 fps aprox using the DMA chain and about 80 fps disabling DMA and writing on the DATA register like the nano2g does |
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| 18:39:40 | prof_wolfff | i want to try to use DMA but not chaining all the framebuffer data, instead i was planning to enable the LCD FIFO interrupt and launch a small DMA transfer everytime the FIFO is half empty, i dont know if it will work |
| 18:44:58 | TheSeven | that won't be better |
| 18:45:47 | * | TheSeven wonders how the LCD driver currently works |
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| 18:47:32 | TheSeven | prof_wolfff: DMA is slower because the data needs to be transferred twice |
| 18:48:28 | TheSeven | that's a design issue within rockbox - if the UI layer would support double buffering natively this would be faster than PIO |
| 18:49:08 | TheSeven | currently the LCD driver has to keep a copy of the current screen contents around because they might change while the DMA transfer is running |
| 18:50:11 | TheSeven | it could possibly be more efficient to just block the calling thread until the DMA transfer completes and let DMA push the data directly do the LCD, but this will only work for full-width updates (otherwise you would need a much more complex DMA descriptor chain) |
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| 18:51:37 | kugelp | lorenzo92: Hey |
| 18:51:46 | lorenzo92 | kugelp: hey ;) |
| 18:52:15 | kugelp | have you played with micrsosd yet? |
| 18:52:30 | lorenzo92 | kugelp: I was away :) |
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| 18:52:53 | lorenzo92 | kugelp: but now I wanted to try to use gpio module for keypad reading hehe .) |
| 18:53:45 | TheLemonMan | pamaury: what i had to do for running w/o the mmu ? |
| 18:54:32 | prof_wolfff | yes, i tried that, i made a chain composed by lines on framebuffer memory (no memory copy and thread blocked), it works but the transfer time was the same, then i measured the time that is spent in the copy from framebuffer to RAM and it was a surprise for me that this time is about 1/10 of the DMA transfer (dont remember the ratio exacly but i annoted it somewhere) |
| 18:57:10 | kugelp | there's a mount system call so should be simple |
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| 18:58:51 | kugelp | could additionally bind mount into the internal memory for convenience |
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| 18:59:40 | kugelp | since I expect everyone sets the start file browser setting to the internal memory |
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| 18:59:58 | lorenzo92 | kugelp: yes, should be easy...where do you think is better to place this mounter? button stuff? |
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| 19:00:08 | lorenzo92 | well maybe sd mount routine in system.c |
| 19:00:35 | lorenzo92 | kugelp: a question for multiple keypresses, then. How to "combine" keys? |
| 19:00:40 | kugelp | don't know really :-) |
| 19:01:05 | kugelp | bit-or |
| 19:01:27 | prof_wolfff | TheSeven: i supposed the problem could be a misconfiguration on DMA controller or something similar... i discover rockbox a few monts ago and i really dont know very much about the ipod hardware |
| 19:01:29 | kugelp | needs a separate bit for each button |
| 19:01:39 | lorenzo92 | okay |
| 19:01:55 | kugelp | so you need to replace the enum |
| 19:02:31 | kugelp | otoh imo it works surprisingly well without. I don't miss combos yet |
| 19:02:40 | jlbiasini | hello i'm playing with PLA and lamp but in "if(!(button & (BUTTON_REL|BUTTON_REPEAT)) && !IS_SYSEVENT(button))" what is this !IS_SYSEVENT(button) fonction (obviously some test about those button not being mapped) but is there a way to have PLA button also detected? |
| 19:03:40 | jlbiasini | I din't find much in the code about this IS_SYSEVENT |
| 19:05:01 | lorenzo92 | kugelp: uhm I guess you're right. I implemented some buttons, and *seems* that just returning the specific key does the trick, don't know if it's possible. Need to check with a gameboy rom hah |
| 19:06:08 | kugelp | jlbiasini: system events are communicated the same way as button presses |
| 19:06:37 | kugelp | with this macro you can tell if its a system event or button press |
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| 19:07:00 | jlbiasini | lorenzo92: usually you put a | between the key to combine |
| 19:07:13 | lorenzo92 | uhm okay thanks ... |
| 19:07:26 | kugelp | that's bit-or :-) |
| 19:07:48 | jlbiasini | on keymaps or means and!! |
| 19:08:10 | lorenzo92 | yeah |
| 19:09:08 | lorenzo92 | kugelp: at least using gpio buttons are working , just need to enable multikeystroke ;9 |
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| 19:10:15 | prof_wolfff | theSeven: so i left that issue, my final tought was that the max DMA transfer speed is limited by the LCD parallel port controller speed but for some reason the DMA cannot reach that reltivelly low speed |
| 19:13:35 | TheSeven | well, the CPU has to do a lot of copying before the DMA transfer even starts, which can't happen in parallel with the previous transfer |
| 19:13:58 | TheSeven | so the DMA will actually only be active for like 60-70% of the time (estimated) |
| 19:14:12 | TheSeven | which matches the 50 vs. 80 fps you're getting |
| 19:15:01 | pamaury | TheLemonMan: basically disable the mmu in crt0.S |
| 19:15:24 | pamaury | and tweak some macros that give the uncached/buffered address |
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| 19:16:03 | TheLemonMan | pamaury: ive set all the address in the cpu config.h to 0x40000000 and commented out the mmu_init call |
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| 19:16:24 | TheLemonMan | but hangs at boot |
| 19:19:43 | pamaury | you need to disable cahing also |
| 19:19:48 | pamaury | *caching |
| 19:20:00 | pamaury | and buffering |
| 19:21:22 | TheLemonMan | crt0 already does so, memory_init re-enables them |
| 19:21:35 | prof_wolfff | theSeven: yes, but i measured all the phases and i get for a whole frame (320x240): memcpy(dbl_buf, frambuffer) about 1900 usecs and the DMA transfer time about 22000 usecs, they were a very surprising values for me, maybe the measurement is not correct for some reason, i will look again when i can |
| 19:22:26 | TheSeven | you need to include the cache flush (somewhere inside the DMA function) into the memcpy measurement, not the DMA one |
| 19:24:05 | TheSeven | also there may be ticks and other IRQs interfering with these measurements |
| 19:24:09 | prof_wolfff | i dont remember but believe the clean_dcache() was relativelly fast, must give a look to it again... |
| 19:24:14 | Newguy1 | I deleted all my music that was put on through iTunes and added it just by folders and now rockbox shows the "searching database" for a second of 2 every time i click on an artist and i only have 3 albums |
| 19:24:24 | TheSeven | it probably takes a while for the rockbox kernel to wake the thread again after the DMA IRQ signals the wakeup |
| 19:24:55 | Newguy1 | how do I make it not have to "load" every time i go into a cd |
| 19:25:05 | TheSeven | this might happen only during the next tick, which can delay it by up to 10 milliseconds, or even more if other threads are ready for execution |
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| 19:30:39 | Newguy1 | Also is there any way to make my albums show in database but not under Files> |
| 19:31:20 | saratoga | you can set the view settings to now show music IIRC |
| 19:32:07 | Newguy1 | okay ill check that out, and another thing i added just 3 albums to test it out |
| 19:32:23 | Newguy1 | and all of them have Folder.jpg in the folder of the album |
| 19:32:31 | Newguy1 | and one of them doesnt show the album art on the iPod |
| 19:32:34 | Newguy1 | any reason why? |
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| 19:32:53 | Newguy1 | Only thing i can see different is the 3rd one is 600x600 and the other 2 are 500x500 |
| 19:33:56 | prof_wolfff | TheSeven: opps i didnt account the awake time, but i continue thinkinig something strange is happening on DMA, when i lowered CPU (108Mhz) these times just doubled while the tick interval is the same (100Hz) |
| 19:34:22 | TheSeven | did you only lower the CPU or also AXI/AHB clocks? |
| 19:34:30 | TheSeven | the CPU clock shouldn't affect DMA at all |
| 19:34:45 | prof_wolfff | i lower CPU and buses |
| 19:35:11 | Newguy1 | is there any way i can make my ipod video battery last longer, it only lasts about an hour |
| 19:35:20 | prof_wolfff | but modified the timer for using an external source not affected when change the cpu/bus speeds |
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| 19:50:46 | kugelp | TheSeven: the kernel can wake threads before the next tick |
| 19:51:10 | TheSeven | when does it do that? |
| 19:51:27 | TheSeven | in this case it's a wakeup triggered inside an IRQ handler, probably while the CPU was sleeping |
| 19:51:35 | kugelp | when an irq comes in |
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| 19:51:48 | TheSeven | Newguy1: replace the battery |
| 19:52:23 | kugelp | the kernel enters core_sleep() which puts the kernel into wfi state |
| 19:52:32 | TheSeven | if you want to squeeze the last bit out of it, reduce backlight brightness and time, volume, enable lcd sleep, disable accessory power and lineout, ... |
| 19:52:55 | TheSeven | does it attempt a thread switch after waking up from one of those? |
| 19:52:55 | kugelp | if its interrupted it checks the threads again |
| 19:52:58 | TheSeven | ok |
| 19:53:11 | TheSeven | but if it was previously running a thread it doesn't? |
| 19:53:15 | kugelp | it does that for all interrupts, not only the tick |
| 19:53:50 | TheSeven | (otherwise that would defeat the cooperative multitasking concept) |
| 19:53:51 | kugelp | in fact it doesn't distinguish which source woke up the CPU |
| 19:55:06 | prof_wolfff | theSeven: i noticed there is a new ipod classic release based on rockbox r31516 and emcore r859, i am using an old release so i need to update it, what do you think it is better: to post the patches applied to this release or to use the last trunk release? |
| 19:55:13 | kugelp | if its running a thread its not in core_sleep, it checks the other once it yields |
| 19:55:28 | TheSeven | prof_wolfff: if possible to the trunk |
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| 19:59:32 | TheLemonMan | so, i disabled the mmu and i still get a random swi error originated from find_first_bit_set call in thread_switch |
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| 20:00:09 | TheLemonMan | and theres no such swi call there |
| 20:00:54 | kugelp | doesn't swi use the same fault handler as undef insn and prefetch abort now? |
| 20:02:13 | TheLemonMan | it still uses UIE |
| 20:09:37 | jlbiasini | kugelp: PLA button seems to be detected as system event, is there a way I could take them out? |
| 20:10:03 | TheLemonMan | interesting fact, without the mmu enabled i finally get a successful ecc8 irq even if after i ack it the screen wraps around and the player hangs |
| 20:10:14 | TheLemonMan | seriously, what the fuck is going on ? |
| 20:11:07 | pamaury | why do you disable the mmu ? |
| 20:11:55 | kugelp | jlbiasini: pla should take care of system events |
| 20:12:11 | kugelp | I don't think you need to do anything |
| 20:15:03 | TheLemonMan | pamaury: ive tried to put all the blame onto the mmu as those problems look like memory corruption to me |
| 20:15:54 | pamaury | the mmu setup is really simple, it's unlikely that it will cause any problem. More likely you gave the address a virtual address for example |
| 20:17:33 | TheLemonMan | that doesnt explain the missing irq or the swi error in thread switching |
| 20:18:04 | jlbiasini | kugelp: well I could replace the line by a map to PLA_QUIT for example... |
| 20:18:41 | jlbiasini | if I take the line out there no more way to quit lamp |
| 20:19:25 | kugelp | which line? |
| 20:19:34 | CIA-88 | New commit by bluebrother (r31592): Split up encoders sources. ... |
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| 20:20:16 | kugelp | remove only the sysevent part, pla of course still delivers the quit button |
| 20:21:00 | jlbiasini | I think I already tried that wait I will redo |
| 20:21:25 | lovasoa | Why isn't the screen updated after a splashf times out? This causes a disgusting half-drawn message in the WPS for me... |
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| 20:28:46 | CIA-88 | r31593 build result: All green |
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| 20:30:40 | jlbiasini | kugelp: ah yes now I remember the problem is then that lamp now quit on every long click or release (BUTTON_REL|BUTTON_REPEAT) because in "if(!(button & (BUTTON_REL|BUTTON_REPEAT)) && !IS_SYSEVENT(button))", !IS_SYSEVENT(button) prevent quit when BUTTON_REL|BUTTON_REPEAT are button call |
| 20:31:23 | CIA-88 | r31594 build result: All green |
| 20:31:46 | bluebrother | jlbiasini: your manual patch changes the blackjack plugin. Is that intentional? |
| 20:33:02 | jlbiasini | oups wait I have to lool at it |
| 20:34:04 | bluebrother | I'm planning to commit the plugin changes separately anyway so no hurry |
| 20:34:31 | bluebrother | urgh −− nopt will not work with more than one option |
| 20:35:01 | jlbiasini | bluebrother: yes and no: this is because I was doing the plugin remapping in the same time for pamaury |
| 20:35:12 | jlbiasini | So It get in the wrong patch |
| 20:35:25 | jlbiasini | where? |
| 20:35:54 | bluebrother | just see the diffstat in the tracker −− first file |
| 20:36:01 | jlbiasini | I tested the compilation, it should work and display ok (I read all those modification) |
| 20:36:27 | bluebrother | and why are you removing that mpiohd200 section from installation.tex? |
| 20:37:56 | kugelp | jlbiasini: show your diff please |
| 20:38:00 | jlbiasini | I should have writed down those modif... now I don't remember I know I corrected a few error but I might have add a few also |
| 20:38:15 | kugelp | you the entire line is wrong when using pla |
| 20:38:39 | bluebrother | those changes are really quite convoluted :/ |
| 20:39:53 | bluebrother | please try to make changes more incremental. If you're not using it try git (with git-svn), it makes it really easy keeping such changes separate |
| 20:40:04 | jlbiasini | bluebrother: this mpiohd200 is clearly wrong from me sorry :( |
| 20:42:48 | jlbiasini | bluebrother: convoluted? |
| 20:43:22 | bluebrother | there are a lot of loosely related changes. |
| 20:43:44 | bluebrother | why is the target named "fuzeplus" and not "sansafuzeplus" (as configure *should* do)? |
| 20:44:43 | bluebrother | hmm, seems it hasn't been changed for e200 and friends as well. |
| 20:44:55 | bluebrother | looks like something that is still missing from the target rename |
| 20:45:42 | bluebrother | so let's keep this theme link list as-is for now :/ |
| 20:49:00 | jlbiasini | kugelp: https://gist.github.com/1572072 |
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| 20:53:53 | kugel | jlbiasini: okay. first pla doesnt handle sys events, I was wrong |
| 20:54:05 | kugel | so you still need the call to default_event_handler |
| 20:54:28 | fml | bluebrother: Hey! I've seen two typos in the file encoderbase.h: "setttingsList" and "Chlid class should commit the from SettingsList to permanent storage" ("from" should be dropped) |
| 20:55:08 | kugel | jlbiasini: I really don't know what that line is for, I suggest removing it entirely, including the quit=true below |
| 20:55:31 | jlbiasini | ok let's try |
| 20:55:51 | kugel | and you shouldn't put the extra call to button_get_w_tmo there |
| 20:55:55 | kugel | I wonder why you put that |
| 20:56:46 | jlbiasini | because PLA doesn't map all key in all situation. On some device I let the normal keys (see the define above) |
| 20:58:32 | kugel | dont do that |
| 20:58:58 | kugel | why do you add special handling for some targets? |
| 20:59:10 | kugel | because of touchscreen? |
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| 20:59:39 | kugel | touchscreens are handled by using the grid mode currently. this is far from ideal but they don't need special handling |
| 20:59:50 | jlbiasini | no because they had special keymaps that I didn't want to mess with |
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| 21:00:55 | jlbiasini | Touchscreen are ok, but the only way to improve PLA support will be to have some time old device using the old method |
| 21:01:07 | jlbiasini | because there are to much case else |
| 21:01:16 | bluebrother | fml: thanks, seems nobody noticed that for years ;-) |
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| 21:01:46 | kugel | okay. but see how metronome does it if you really want special casing |
| 21:01:49 | jlbiasini | through about 3 - 5 |
| 21:01:55 | saratoga_ | Tuggers: i can talk to you a bit about the summer of code, although this year i'm not going to be mentoring due to other committments |
| 21:02:13 | kugel | you add a another context, not call button_get |
| 21:02:42 | kugel | the pla call will eat the key press so you'd need to press it twice then anyway |
| 21:02:56 | bluebrother | heh, there's even one more: setttings :) |
| 21:03:16 | jlbiasini | kugel: even cutting out the part you told me there is still no way to quit and no repeat modifier |
| 21:04:01 | kugel | you need to add a PLA_QUIT case too |
| 21:04:59 | kugel | e.g. case PLA_QUIT: case PLA_SELECT: quit = true; |
| 21:05:46 | kugel | (now I see, that line makes lamp quit on any button that's not changing the colors) |
| 21:08:02 | jlbiasini | yeah that is then what I thought, what's wrong with having PLA and classig mehod? |
| 21:09:01 | jlbiasini | this not really clean of course |
| 21:09:32 | jlbiasini | well I will have a look to those thrn thanks |
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| 21:13:55 | bluebrother | hmm, the manual still talks about separate builds for the ipod video. That's definitely outdated. |
| 21:15:57 | Newguy1 | if i change my music folder to .music will it still show in the database but not in the file list? |
| 21:16:01 | Newguy1 | thats what i want |
| 21:16:44 | bluebrother | you can also set the hidden flag |
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| 21:17:01 | Newguy1 | how? |
| 21:17:09 | Newguy1 | i just want my "music" to show up in the |
| 21:17:10 | bluebrother | properties dialog in Windows |
| 21:17:12 | Newguy1 | database |
| 21:17:27 | Newguy1 | and when i go to File> not to show the folders |
| 21:17:47 | Newguy1 | oh okay i see what you mean |
| 21:17:53 | Newguy1 | just make the folder hidden in windows |
| 21:17:54 | bluebrother | or mtools |
| 21:18:15 | bluebrother | or whatever tool that can set the hidden flag on a FAT filesystem :) |
| 21:18:23 | Newguy1 | yeah that should work because the original itunes folder was hidden and it showed in the database |
| 21:18:49 | Newguy1 | any idea why my one album isnt showing the album art? |
| 21:18:58 | Newguy1 | Folder.jpg |
| 21:19:05 | bluebrother | file broken? |
| 21:19:11 | bluebrother | wrong type in file? |
| 21:19:17 | bluebrother | file too big? |
| 21:19:20 | bluebrother | progressive jpg? |
| 21:19:30 | Newguy1 | is 600x600 too big |
| 21:19:31 | bluebrother | bad mood? |
| 21:19:34 | Newguy1 | the 500x500 ones work |
| 21:19:44 | bluebrother | what player? |
| 21:19:53 | Newguy1 | ipod video |
| 21:19:56 | saratoga_ | i think files have to be enormous before they'll break the decoder |
| 21:20:06 | saratoga_ | many megapixels |
| 21:20:06 | Newguy1 | i just put 3 albums on to test out rockbox |
| 21:20:27 | bluebrother | ah right, we're doing resizing on load, right? |
| 21:20:35 | bluebrother | well, then that shouldn't be much of a problem. |
| 21:20:41 | bluebrother | perhaps the file isn't a jpg? |
| 21:20:45 | Newguy1 | it is |
| 21:20:46 | bluebrother | or it's a progressive jpg? |
| 21:20:55 | bluebrother | have you checked the file? |
| 21:20:55 | Newguy1 | im looking at it right now |
| 21:20:59 | bluebrother | i.e. the magic? |
| 21:21:02 | Newguy1 | i can send you it lol |
| 21:21:10 | * | bluebrother rofls |
| 21:21:58 | saratoga_ | can you view the jpeg with rockbox? |
| 21:22:19 | Newguy1 | let me check |
| 21:23:04 | Newguy1 | no it said unsupported file hmmm |
| 21:23:06 | Newguy1 | plugin error |
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| 21:24:00 | bluebrother | I'm suspecting the file to be a png |
| 21:24:03 | saratoga_ | probably corrupt or not actually a jpeg then |
| 21:24:12 | bluebrother | what do the first bytes in the file look like? |
| 21:24:21 | Newguy1 | well on my computer its 100% .jpg |
| 21:24:44 | Newguy1 | loading 220 |
| 21:25:04 | bluebrother | loading 220? |
| 21:25:04 | Newguy1 | odd how the hell do i make it a jpg lol |
| 21:25:30 | bluebrother | your image viewer might ignore the file extension. The file extension is not a way to tell the file type |
| 21:25:42 | bluebrother | even though lot of systems to it that way |
| 21:25:59 | * | bluebrother had some png files with jpg extension some time back |
| 21:26:11 | Newguy1 | ah i see |
| 21:26:26 | bluebrother | open the file in a text editor and check the first bytes. Does it say JFIF among them? |
| 21:26:33 | bluebrother | 0000000: ffd8 ffe0 0010 4a46 4946 0001 0101 0048 ......JFIF.....H |
| 21:26:39 | Newguy1 | okay one sec |
| 21:26:43 | bluebrother | that's the first 16 bytes of a random jpg file |
| 21:27:09 | Newguy1 | it says JFIF |
| 21:27:25 | bluebrother | then it's likely to be progressive jpg. Rockbox does not support those. |
| 21:27:38 | saratoga_ | doesn't the viewer spit out a different error for progressive? |
| 21:27:47 | saratoga_ | IIRC it'll actually tell you that it can't view progressive jpegs |
| 21:27:56 | bluebrother | no idea. |
| 21:28:11 | Newguy1 | sar it only shows the error for a second |
| 21:28:26 | Newguy1 | unsupported -4 |
| 21:28:28 | Newguy1 | it says |
| 21:29:10 | bluebrother | does the fuze+ have more than one partition exposed to the user? |
| 21:29:20 | Newguy1 | i dont know what that means |
| 21:30:25 | Newguy1 | why does my database have to do a search every time i go into Artists |
| 21:30:33 | Newguy1 | i only have 3 albums... |
| 21:30:53 | bluebrother | return (-4); /* other DCT model than baseline not implemented */ |
| 21:31:17 | saratoga_ | i didn't even know jpeg had multiple dcts |
| 21:31:39 | bluebrother | me neither. Just grepped the code :) |
| 21:32:45 | Newguy1 | oh well im more worried about solving this database search issue lol when i had 7 gigs of music added through itunes i didnt notice it ever say "searching database" when i went into Artists, let alone every time i go into Artists |
| 21:33:31 | bluebrother | load the database to RAM. |
| 21:33:58 | * | bluebrother looks around for some lolcats |
| 21:34:08 | bluebrother | or maybe a roflcopter? |
| 21:34:10 | Newguy1 | okay i did that now ill restart and see it it changes |
| 21:36:29 | bluebrother | hmpf, jlbiasini left :( |
| 21:36:39 | bluebrother | the manual stuff is still talking about "OF" |
| 21:37:46 | * | bluebrother sighs |
| 21:38:00 | bluebrother | any manual guy around? |
| 21:38:39 | * | bluebrother is tempted to drop that patch for now |
| 21:42:26 | Newguy1 | okay everything looking good load to RAM seems to make it load stuff from my database faster but takes a second or 2 to load album art on track changes. |
| 21:42:41 | Newguy1 | so did the regular ipod OS if i recall too |
| 21:45:38 | CIA-88 | New commit by bluebrother (r31595): Fix typo in comment. ... |
| 21:46:55 | Newguy1 | oh blueb do you know if its possibly to show the album year next to the album in the database? |
| 21:47:26 | CIA-88 | r31595 build result: All green |
| 21:48:34 | saratoga_ | sure, the database stuff can be customized, check the wiki |
| 21:50:50 | Newguy1 | hmmm i just booted it up and put it on hold to boot to the original fw how do i get it to boot up to rockbox again lol |
| 21:52:01 | saratoga_ | reboot |
| 21:52:15 | Newguy1 | its not working |
| 21:53:20 | Newguy1 | or how do i reboot |
| 21:54:20 | saratoga_ | i don't know what the button is on the newer ipods, maybe check the apple docs |
| 21:54:37 | Newguy1 | oh i did it its center button and menu |
| 21:54:43 | Newguy1 | sweet |
| 21:55:14 | lorenzo92 | kugel: I sent lebellium a build with my gpio buttons patch, he likes that very much :D |
| 21:56:54 | lorenzo92 | kugel: now rockboy is much more usable hehe |
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| 21:59:21 | kugel | lorenzo92: heh, probably. I never use that |
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| 22:00:14 | lebellium | kugel: if you had tried mario tennis, you would use it \o/ |
| 22:00:20 | lorenzo92 | kugel: http://pastie.org/3139577 |
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| 22:05:19 | lorenzo92 | kugel: I noticed an interesting fact. After SDL removal, I cannot see anymore the digital vu-meter! Only the analog one works.... |
| 22:07:32 | lorenzo92 | kugel: I mean the plugin...now I go to see its code! |
| 22:10:45 | lorenzo92 | also minimeters are stopped uhm |
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| 22:12:37 | kugel | lorenzo92: looks good, but don't use //-style comments |
| 22:12:50 | lorenzo92 | yeah ok |
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| 22:20:57 | kugel | lorenzo92: I don't suppose you can read multiple pins at once? |
| 22:21:13 | lorenzo92 | no we cannot |
| 22:28:23 | kugel | lorenzo92: hm okay |
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| 22:29:59 | kugel | lorenzo92: just thought we could reduce the syscall overhead |
| 22:30:16 | lorenzo92 | kugel: would be nice...how? |
| 22:30:32 | kugel | don't know that's why I asked :) |
| 22:30:37 | lorenzo92 | :D |
| 22:34:45 | lorenzo92 | kugel: for the patch? I'll clean it a bit and then post it to flyspray? |
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| 22:43:01 | lorenzo92 | kugel: ah! btw, we could use directly the gpio also for the "charger sense"...or at least open the minivet device only one not everytime |
| 22:43:55 | bluebrother | nice, encoding the voice clips using libmp3lame at least feels notably faster than using lame. |
| 22:45:10 | bluebrother | now to see if the created voicefile actually works :) |
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| 23:13:45 | funman | TheSeven: should I try to store endpoint information by direction too? |
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| 23:13:56 | funman | TheSeven: for nano2g / classic; so we could merge a bit more code |
| 23:14:23 | TheSeven | hm, I think the ideal solution would be a driver which autodetects most things |
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| 23:14:42 | TheSeven | i.e. number of available endpoints and their directions, fifo sizes, ... |
| 23:15:38 | funman | yeah but those are 2 different things :) |
| 23:16:32 | TheSeven | yeah, but I think that this requires an overhaul of the endpoint information structure anyway, so we should take this into consideration if we need to touch that area anywaay |
| 23:17:03 | funman | i'll cook some patch |
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| 23:21:06 | pixelma | bluebrother: yes, target rename is still unfinished in the manual - unfortunately fixing this is one of the tasks that become longer and more boring the closer you look at it :\ |
| 23:22:17 | pixelma | you'll find target opts in more and more places and if you want to do it right, you need to keep an eye on if there would be a more suitable feature opt etc. |
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| 23:26:22 | bluebrother | pixelma: well, as a first measure one could just do a batch replacement. |
| 23:26:43 | bluebrother | IMO much more things in the manual should be handled via features. |
| 23:26:58 | bluebrother | but I have to admit that I haven't looked at the manual in quite some time |
| 23:27:27 | bluebrother | trying to use libmp3lame for voicefiles on the Archos players right now. Expecting quite a bit of a speed boost (and less hassle to set it up :) |
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| 23:33:31 | bluebrother | nice, loading libmp3lame works pretty much out of the box on Windows. Encoding fails for some reason though. |
| 23:39:25 | kugel | bluebrother: that's not what "works out of the box" means to me :) |
| 23:49:23 | bluebrother | well, it does load the DLL and I can read the version via a function. So loading the DLL works. Using ... well, partly. It could be very well a but not related to the DLL as well |
| 23:51:50 | * | bluebrother curses the number of typecasts this stuff requires |
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