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| 07:33:17 | davo | i've successfully installed rockbox on a sansa fuze a few weeks ago, when initially dict and text_editor worked (which technically they still work), but are now showing 'garbage' or unreadable fonts/characters. i've tried reinstalling rockbox and changing the page code setting to different locales, but still unable to get usable characters in the dict app. any idea what i've done wrong? |
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| 07:58:02 | [Saint] | davo: Give me a few minutes to update my build, and I'll see what I see here. |
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| 08:42:14 | kugelp | if I do "stmdb sp!, {r0,r4-r11,lr}", how do I access r0 afterwards? |
| 08:44:17 | kugelp | I though it would be "ldr [sp, #36]" but appears to be "ldr [sp, #0]" |
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| 08:47:41 | davo | [Saint, ok thanks, no rush, i'll be here |
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| 09:12:50 | ukleinek | kugel: yes, that's correct |
| 09:13:08 | ukleinek | db in stmdb means that the stack is decreasing (decrease before) |
| 09:13:33 | ukleinek | that is if sp is 0x100 before the instruction, lr lands at 0xfc |
| 09:14:08 | ukleinek | and the lower registers end in the lower addressed space |
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| 09:17:42 | [Saint] | davo: Anything specific I should know? |
| 09:18:12 | [Saint] | font, theme (shouldn't make a difference), build revision? |
| 09:18:29 | davo | well, perhaps that i'm a newbie to rockbox, and not to fluent with locales and configs, etc |
| 09:18:55 | davo | oh, that..yes, sorry, one sec let me get those for you |
| 09:19:23 | [Saint] | davo: On a "clean" build, with my dict.desc and dict.index files...all is well. |
| 09:21:01 | kugel | ukleinek: so it writes the regs in the opposite order? |
| 09:22:02 | davo | in the player, under Rockbox info, it shows Version 3.10, as for font, seems i last set it to 12 - Adobe Helvetica, and not sure which theme i'm using |
| 09:22:09 | davo | [Saint]: ^^ |
| 09:25:15 | davo | is there perhaps a 'Reset All Defaults' ? |
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| 09:25:43 | davo | ah in fact there is under 'Manage Settings'..will see if that makes a difference |
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| 09:26:15 | [Saint] | afaik there's no config setting that can affect this plugin |
| 09:26:54 | davo | in fact, Resetting the Settings worked :] |
| 09:27:02 | davo | strange |
| 09:27:07 | davo | but thankful |
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| 09:27:14 | [Saint] | Bugger it... |
| 09:27:30 | davo | just not sure what setting I had made that borked it up |
| 09:27:41 | [Saint] | I mean, that's great...but I now wish I asked you to backup your config.cfg |
| 09:28:11 | [Saint] | As, there's no setting that could warp this plugin. It very much falls into "bug-land". |
| 09:28:27 | davo | yeah, perhaps that would have been interesting to review and see what i had done wrong |
| 09:29:18 | [Saint] | Very occasionally, updating builds (especially between releases) seems to cause an issue where a seemingly perfectly valid config.cfg can make "Very Weird Things" (TM) happen. |
| 09:29:30 | davo | it also falls very much into my being a complete newb with rockbox and config'ing it |
| 09:30:03 | [Saint] | I don't think you did anything "wrong". If its what I'm thinking, its a rare, near impossible to catch bug. |
| 09:30:28 | [Saint] | There's no "screw up my plugins" setting :) |
| 09:31:01 | davo | i don't recall if it happened between reinstalls, but after the first successful install i do recall experimenting with as much as i could and somewhere along the way i noticed the dict app display was scrambled and illegible |
| 09:31:40 | davo | but it wasn't all plug-ins that were 'screwed up' it was just the dict display, everything else seemed to work fine |
| 09:33:13 | [Saint] | Well...I'll say this much. If there *is* a config setting that could warp the dict display...it would be a bug. I'm thinking its the weird, longstanding, and very very rare bug we've seen before with config files. |
| 09:34:01 | [Saint] | Sometimes it manifests itself as a playmode setting going haywire, despite a perfectly valid config. |
| 09:35:22 | [Saint] | If it is what I'm thinking...I haven't seen it in a while. But I honestly cannot think of any one setting that could have this effect, the problem you described. |
| 09:36:08 | davo | under 'Browse .cfg Files' I see 'config' and 'InAWhisper'..neither of those are relevant? |
| 09:37:00 | davo | I'm pretty sure it might be that I didn't describe the problem well enough |
| 09:37:32 | [Saint] | "InAWhisper" is nothing of ours. |
| 09:37:54 | [Saint] | It may be that your filesystem is corrupt. |
| 09:38:11 | davo | i'm just glad to find a way to get it back to a useable app that i can install a dict and see if it works |
| 09:38:56 | davo | can i view the 'InAWhisper' file, or send it to you somehow if it would help? |
| 09:39:06 | [Saint] | I have current dict.desc/index files compiled here: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/30204410/Rockbox%20Dict%20Files.zip |
| 09:39:13 | davo | otherwise i consider it resolved |
| 09:39:46 | davo | oh great, thanks, i'll take a look and see if i can get it working |
| 09:41:01 | [Saint] | you could try upload the "InAWhisper" file to a hosting servi type of file it is.ce, it may be useful. Firstly, I'd like you to look at this file in your PC/Laptop/Whatever's file browser and tell me what |
| 09:41:57 | [Saint] | you could try upload the "InAWhisper" file to a hosting service...<snip>...and tell me what type of file it is |
| 09:43:16 | [Saint] | Unless you specifically saved a configuration with that exact name, this file has no business being there. |
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| 09:44:24 | [Saint] | And this, coupled with your earlier report, makes me think your filesystem may be damaged (which we can take care of, if this is the case) |
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| 09:47:21 | [Saint] | davo: Regarding dict.rock, the files dict.desc and dict.index I linked above (contained in the .zip file) are to be placed in "/.rockbox/rocks/apps/", after this the dict.rock plugin will "just work". |
| 09:50:18 | rgtype | can rockbox automatically change RG type from "Album" to "Track" mode if the folder/album is flagged or tagged appropiately |
| 09:51:41 | [Saint] | rgtype: No. |
| 09:54:36 | rgtype | hmm, shame it doesn't. It would be great to have RG type in the metadata and then have RG automatically change accordingly |
| 09:55:04 | [Saint] | How would that even work? |
| 09:55:20 | [Saint] | That would only work if you only ever played full albums. |
| 09:55:55 | [Saint] | It would break if you played from a mixed playlist would it not? |
| 09:56:19 | rgtype | add album or Track type to the matadata, when that album is loaded for playback the metadata is read and then RG is notified to apply the applicable RG mode |
| 09:56:52 | [Saint] | see above regarding mixed playlists. |
| 09:59:31 | rgtype | if a entire album is loaded into a playlist it can still scan for selected RG type, if the playlist is shuffled then the golbal RG setting "Track mode if shuffled" will override album specific setting |
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| 10:00:09 | rgtype | golbal=global |
| 10:02:11 | [Saint] | Well..."track mode if shuffled" is essentially what you're looking for more or less. Unless Im missunderstanding the use case. It assumes album mode unless shuffled. |
| 10:05:11 | [Saint] | If I am indeed missunderstanding your intended use case, by all means, help me to see what it is you'd like to achieve. |
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| 10:10:41 | [Saint] | JdGordon: Did you ever look at getting piezo keyclick on the ipods to stop at the end of a list? |
| 10:11:45 | [Saint] | I think it'd be nice if it respected the keyclick repeat settign. |
| 10:11:58 | [Saint] | *setting |
| 10:13:28 | JdGordon | nope |
| 10:14:56 | rgtype | currently RG mode can only be changed manualyy, i.e. Album mode, Track mode, Track if shuffled. If RG playback is set to Album mode and I load a various compilation I have to manually go and change RG to tack mode. I would like for RG mode to change automatically in that scenario |
| 10:16:54 | [Saint] | If its set to album mode, and you play an album of various artists (assuming its not user compiled), and you need to manually fix up the RG...doesn't that mean your RG data is wrong? |
| 10:18:02 | rgtype | NO. I have tons of self compiled various albums which I play back with Track RG, I also have artistically intact albums which I playback in Album mode |
| 10:18:12 | rgtype | sorry for the big caps |
| 10:19:30 | [Saint] | right...thats why I added "assuming its not user compiled", as that totally breaks this. |
| 10:22:04 | JdGordon | [Saint]: hmm... |
| 10:22:35 | rgtype | feature request with bounty ^^ :-)) |
| 10:22:44 | JdGordon | errr... i have an idea how to fix this but not sure its really nice |
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| 10:26:57 | JdGordon | hmm...... why are we triggering the click before we know what action its going to do? |
| 10:27:12 | JdGordon | Does anyone have any opions on the keyclick code? |
| 10:27:21 | JdGordon | I have a possibly not-clean idea to make it much nicer |
| 10:29:47 | [Saint] | rgtype: afaik there's no sane/standard way to implement replaygain (let alone replaygain type) in ID3...is there? |
| 10:30:33 | [Saint] | Perhaps mp3gain is your friend instead. |
| 10:31:31 | davo | [Saint]: I downloaded and extracted the zip file you referred and dropped the two dict files into .rockbox/rocks/apps, rebooted the player, started the dict app, but upon pressing the >|| play button, says "Not Found." |
| 10:32:18 | davo | most likely i just need to read more of the documentation and improve my understanding |
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| 10:32:41 | [Saint] | davo: Right...I wouldn't say its going out on a limb here to say that your filesystem is toast. |
| 10:33:10 | [Saint] | What operating system are you using? |
| 10:33:12 | davo | eek, sounds like a very likely case |
| 10:33:21 | davo | OS on my laptop here? |
| 10:33:27 | davo | linux |
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| 10:34:17 | davo | i'll consider a last resort backing up the player data and formatting, reinstalling |
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| 10:36:41 | [Saint] | davo: fsck.vfat -v /path/to/disk |
| 10:36:57 | davo | k, thanks, i'll backup and do that |
| 10:37:26 | [Saint] | No need to backup for that, it won't write anything to disk |
| 10:39:07 | [Saint] | Its only checking the filesystem, and reporting (in a more verbose than normal way). *If* it detects filesystem errors, then we'll look at doing something about it. |
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| 10:41:40 | [Saint] | JdGordon: What's your thinking on keyclick? |
| 10:43:45 | JdGordon | its a bit nasty but ill going to register a callback and do the click a bit later than it is currently |
| 10:44:09 | JdGordon | it shold be pretty simple to make work |
| 10:52:02 | [Saint] | davo: How did you get on with fsck.vfta? |
| 10:52:13 | [Saint] | *fsck.vfat |
| 10:52:21 | lorenzo92 | kugel: today I've sent again to samsung my request for si470x module header(s)...let's hope in that :) |
| 10:52:56 | [Saint] | lorenzo92: Good luck :) |
| 10:52:58 | davo | oh cool, didn't want to disturb you but i wanted to ask if you know maybe why i dont' have fsck.vfat |
| 10:53:17 | davo | seems i only have fsck fsck.ext2 fsck.ext4 fsck.minix fsck.cramfs fsck.ext3 fsck.ext4dev |
| 10:53:37 | davo | maybe i can pass a parameter to fsck |
| 10:53:50 | lorenzo92 | davo: distro? |
| 10:53:57 | davo | gentoo |
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| 10:54:40 | * | [Saint] thought fsck.vfat was a standard linux tool... |
| 10:54:54 | davo | yeah me too |
| 10:55:00 | lorenzo92 | yeah, probably you need to install *dosfstools* package |
| 10:55:10 | davo | oh you know, maybe it's something i didn't set in my kernel? |
| 10:55:49 | davo | hm, perhaps what lorenzo is suggesting, i'll check that |
| 10:56:18 | [Saint] | its in the package dosfstools |
| 10:56:29 | davo | well, looks likely, since my system shows i don't have the dosfstools package installed |
| 10:56:32 | davo | thanks |
| 10:56:35 | [Saint] | oh...whoops, look at the screen more often Hayden...:P |
| 10:56:46 | lorenzo92 | davo: ;) |
| 10:57:06 | davo | heh |
| 10:58:33 | davo | i'm rusty, do i need the disk mounted first? |
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| 11:00:04 | davo | eek, dumb question, i think i figured that one out |
| 11:00:33 | davo | heh, got it |
| 11:00:58 | davo | gives, "FATs differ but appear to be intact. Use which FAT ?" |
| 11:01:19 | lorenzo92 | definitely, some fs problem |
| 11:01:28 | davo | hmm |
| 11:01:49 | davo | well, whatever happens, at least i can still enjoy the other apps and music/videos :) |
| 11:02:03 | lorenzo92 | you *should* do a fsck.vfat blabla -a -w to repair it but wait for Saint... |
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| 11:02:42 | davo | ah ok |
| 11:03:00 | davo | i definitely trust your thoughts more than my own :] |
| 11:03:51 | davo | as per the 1) use first FAT, or 2) Use second FAT, should i cancel? |
| 11:04:26 | davo | i think this might be way too off-topic for this channel. should i get this done elsewhere then come back? |
| 11:04:36 | [Saint] | lorenzo92 is quite right, "fsck.vfat -a -v -w" |
| 11:04:49 | davo | k |
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| 11:05:25 | davo | hm, ran seemingly smooth |
| 11:05:33 | davo | Reclaiming unconnected clusters, Unable to create unique name |
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| 11:05:56 | davo | with other info seems standard output |
| 11:06:02 | [Saint] | -v isn't needed, just gives a verbose output. Its just saying "Check for corruption, fix it immediately, write changes to disk immediately...and tell me everything you can about what you're doing" |
| 11:06:18 | davo | exactly |
| 11:06:25 | davo | which seems like it worked |
| 11:06:41 | davo | no idea about any repair, but shall find out |
| 11:06:56 | davo | do a reinstall and see? |
| 11:07:27 | davo | and perhaps format first? |
| 11:07:59 | [Saint] | There's no need to format, this is what we just (hopefully) avoided. |
| 11:08:27 | davo | oh, by the way [Saint], the InAWhisper.cfg was a 1 Byte file saved from one of the themes |
| 11:10:04 | [Saint] | davo: It shouldn't have been in Setrtings - Manage Settings - Browse .cfg Files |
| 11:10:11 | [Saint] | *Settings |
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| 11:10:52 | davo | ah, which is another reason to suggest the file system was messsing up |
| 11:11:03 | [Saint] | Yep. |
| 11:11:29 | davo | well i removed most of the data expecting to do a format, so i'll need to reinstall rockbox and test it again to see the results |
| 11:12:06 | davo | so when i get that done i'll let you know the results |
| 11:12:21 | davo | thanks very much for both your help |
| 11:12:28 | gevaerts | The in a whisper theme is buggy |
| 11:12:42 | gevaerts | It puts its cfg file in the wrong place |
| 11:13:49 | [Saint] | gevaerts: Good to know...also, very, very *very* weird.. |
| 11:14:46 | [Saint] | gevaerts: Is this bug logged? |
| 11:15:12 | gevaerts | logged? |
| 11:15:24 | [Saint] | s/logged/tracked/ |
| 11:16:02 | gevaerts | If theme authors want bug trackers, they're free to set those up and link to them from the theme description :) |
| 11:16:24 | * | gevaerts has now hidden the theme with an appropriate message. IHRC that should notify the author |
| 11:16:40 | Zagor | should we have something like http://git.gnome.org/browse/gitadmin-bin/tree/pre-receive-check-policy to help avoid common git mistakes? |
| 11:16:54 | [Saint] | Its hardly just a theme bug...checkwps allowed it, so it parsed and all was in the correct location.\ |
| 11:17:11 | [Saint] | It wouldn't have been uploaded if this wasn't the case. |
| 11:17:20 | gevaerts | [Saint]: checkwps, unsurprisingly, checks the wps |
| 11:17:44 | [Saint] | and it also makes sure all needed components are in place. |
| 11:17:57 | [Saint] | and warns of uneeded files. |
| 11:18:07 | [Saint] | *un-needed |
| 11:18:17 | gevaerts | the theme site does this, yes, but not checkwps |
| 11:18:31 | gevaerts | checkwps doesn't care *at all* about the config file |
| 11:20:13 | [Saint] | Well...that's just a wording issue. Yes, I didn't choose my words correctly. My point is ultimately "If it got on the themesite, its technically perfectly valid and if its managing to slip its config.cfg into the wrong directory somehow I can't really see a way its theme theme's fault" |
| 11:21:14 | | Part topik |
| 11:21:26 | [Saint] | If it is botched, and the themesite allowed it...that's probably easier to fix, but it shouldn't have happened. |
| 11:21:30 | gevaerts | If a sanity checking tool doesn't spot an issue that issue is suddenly caused by the sanity checking tool? |
| 11:22:40 | [Saint] | ...the fuck? |
| 11:24:13 | gevaerts | Well, that's what you seem to be saying |
| 11:24:39 | gevaerts | Sure, the sanity checker could (and should) be better, but that doesn't mean the theme isn't buggy |
| 11:24:55 | [Saint] | If you say so. I'm giving up...I don't like talking to you when this happens. |
| 11:25:22 | gevaerts | "somehow I can't really see a way its theme theme's fault |
| 11:25:51 | * | gevaerts would also like to point out that it's not possible to select this theme inside rockbox, so it can't have been tested properly by its author |
| 11:28:44 | JdGordon | right, now im off the hpone.. whats this talk of broken themes? |
| 11:28:56 | [Saint] | I initially thought (and now know I'm mistaken) that it was managing to get its .cfg into a wrong dir *after* installation somehow. If its slipping into the themesite broken, then something happened reasonably recently to allow this as it never used to be possible. |
| 11:30:09 | [Saint] | The themesite was, and still should be perfectly capable of warning about this...and should never have allowed it. |
| 11:30:36 | [Saint] | The fact it did is, interesting. |
| 11:30:46 | gevaerts | true |
| 11:35:18 | gevaerts | I don't see any code in the themesite that ever checked this. It just checks if there is exactly one config file |
| 11:39:19 | JdGordon | [Saint]: don't pretty much all lists wrap in rockbox? |
| 11:39:28 | [Saint] | I'm fairly confident it used to check the location of the .cfg, I'm likely misremembering this though...it seems a perfectly sane thing to check for if it can warn about un-needed/un-referenced files. |
| 11:39:53 | [Saint] | JdGordon: Far from it, why? |
| 11:40:08 | [Saint] | Wait...do they wrap, or *need* to wrap? |
| 11:40:58 | JdGordon | maybe this isnt testable on the sim :/ |
| 11:41:13 | JdGordon | ffs yep |
| 11:41:20 | JdGordon | good thing I have my video available |
| 11:41:56 | JdGordon | but no compilers installed :/ |
| 11:46:12 | [Saint] | Hmmm...random thought. Even though this theme isn't putting its .cfg in the correct place, it still should be able to be launched iiuc. |
| 11:46:31 | [Saint] | I don't think theme theme actually cares where its .cfg is. |
| 11:46:59 | [Saint] | (not the point though, I know) |
| 11:47:02 | gevaerts | The theme doesn't care, but the theme chooser cares |
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| 12:03:39 | JdGordon | crap, I don't tihnk there is going to be a simple way to make keyclick only happen when the button does something, not without touching every single button loop :/ |
| 12:11:39 | [Saint] | well, thanks for trying. |
| 12:12:11 | JdGordon | well, turns out im a dill... |
| 12:12:19 | JdGordon | but we cant get 100% for sure to work |
| 12:13:50 | JdGordon | is one extra click acceptable at the end of lists? |
| 12:14:14 | * | JdGordon suggests 'yes' |
| 12:26:31 | [Saint] | 1 is a lot better than 1 million |
| 12:26:48 | * | [Saint] summons a dev with a Nano2g |
| 12:26:58 | JdGordon | indeed, which is why im saying "bugger it" and commiting |
| 12:27:15 | [Saint] | Is it possible to do a bootloader release for the Nano2G? |
| 12:27:50 | JdGordon | looks like pamuary doesnt have the gerrit hook installed... naughty naughty :) |
| 12:28:15 | [Saint] | Seems it never got renewed after adding the "press menu during boot to boot the OF" |
| 12:28:29 | [Saint] | it == N2g bootloader |
| 12:29:32 | [Saint] | shit...scrap that. Silly date format. |
| 12:31:32 | JdGordon | no cia-bot yet... oh well.. [Saint] fixed |
| 12:32:19 | [Saint] | Awesome. Does it respect keyclick repeats? |
| 12:32:58 | JdGordon | yes, basically i chucked a callback in after we've already decided to beep |
| 12:33:01 | [Saint] | My assumption is the the previous behaviour would be desirable if keyclick repeat was enabled. |
| 12:33:18 | JdGordon | oh, that one.. no, it doesnt |
| 12:33:22 | JdGordon | thats bloody stupid thouhg |
| 12:33:32 | JdGordon | that setting is becoming increasingly stupid |
| 12:34:09 | [Saint] | Its apparently wanted, though? |
| 12:34:26 | JdGordon | it was there because the origional implementation sucked |
| 12:34:30 | [Saint] | By whom, I'm not sure...but it made it in there. |
| 12:37:05 | JdGordon | it is stil not ideal and I'm contemplating removing the generic click so it must be called manually when the screen wants it |
| 12:37:12 | JdGordon | but for now I tihnk this is a big improvement |
| 12:40:02 | [Saint] | having it respect the keyclick repeat setting would be good, and if I remember correctly this was supposed to be a pre-requisite to FS #5111 being committed...but I agree this is an improvement. |
| 12:40:03 | fs-bluebot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5111 Ipod piezo driver (patches, closed) |
| 12:40:38 | JdGordon | both beep at the same time |
| 12:40:53 | JdGordon | you wont get one without the other (if you're silly enough to enable both) |
| 12:41:04 | [Saint] | merging hardware and software keyclick completely would be the go. |
| 12:41:42 | [Saint] | "silly enough to enable both"? |
| 12:41:54 | * | [Saint] is apparently silly. |
| 12:42:11 | JdGordon | iirc the origional problem was that repeatt presses were just handled badly, so holding down a button would keep beeping which is really wierd, so i fixed that which made the setting almost useless |
| 12:42:17 | JdGordon | hello Mr. silly :) |
| 12:42:41 | JdGordon | anyway, yes, this latest patch should do what you want |
| 12:44:48 | [Saint] | I think its useful to have both, as if I have IEMs in I can't hear the piezo, and if I don't have IEMs in I can't hear the software keyclick. |
| 12:45:14 | [Saint] | But anyway, thanks...the repeat behaviour annoyed me no end. |
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| 15:14:49 | dfkt | do i have to delete my local (patched) svn tree in order to start using git, and redownload and patch again? |
| 15:15:10 | gevaerts | basically, yes |
| 15:15:20 | gevaerts | Well, you don't have to delete it |
| 15:15:38 | dfkt | but git won't like the patches made to it, i assume? |
| 15:20:22 | GodEater_ | on the bright side - "git clone" is, in my experience at least, considerably faster than an svn checkout |
| 15:20:57 | dfkt | yes, i'm just experiencing the breeze from git clone :) |
| 15:21:08 | GodEater_ | ruffles your hair a bit |
| 15:24:58 | funman | Zagor: that gnome script looks useful |
| 15:25:16 | Zagor | yes I thought so too |
| 15:26:35 | gevaerts | dfkt: yes, you can't "convert" a repository, but moving it aside for later reference is perfectly acceptable :) |
| 15:26:46 | dfkt | ah :) |
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| 17:28:16 | zenlunatic | im trying to understand why my device randomly started not showing files on rockbox, when theyre their when i mount it on my system |
| 17:29:43 | Zagor | zenlunatic: did you perhaps mistakenly change the "General->File view->Show files" setting? |
| 17:30:54 | zenlunatic | Zagor, yes! thank you sir! |
| 17:31:04 | Zagor | you're welcome |
| 17:31:13 | zenlunatic | time to donate |
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| 19:07:11 | jlbiasini | kugel: this should be ready now! |
| 19:07:14 | jlbiasini | FS #12529 |
| 19:07:14 | fs-bluebot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12529 Lamp plugins PLA integration (patches, unconfirmed) |
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| 19:07:52 | jlbiasini | or does leaving svn also means leaving flyspray? |
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| 19:43:19 | bluebrother | jlbiasini: not immediately, but eventually there won't be any patches on FS anymore. For that you create a review in gerrit (not functional yet, afaik) |
| 19:44:06 | bluebrother | wow, that's a strange API. The function allocates a buffer and does return a pointer to it as return value, but the caller needs to provide a pointer to some value to write the length of that buffer to. |
| 19:45:16 | bluebrother | and why on earth is Rockbox Utility crashing _after_ calling the DLL function? |
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| 19:45:34 | GNU\colossus | hello everyone :) |
| 19:45:56 | bluebrother | hi, I'm eliza. Please tell me your problem. |
| 19:46:24 | GNU\colossus | I just flashed rockbox onto my new and shiny Sansa portable, and I'm readying up to transfer some music to it. since I can't seem to reach rockbox.org right now, I decided to ask in here: what's the best method of storing my music files on the device? |
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| 19:46:39 | GNU\colossus | (like, what directory structure would you recommend, and why) |
| 19:46:44 | bluebrother | any. |
| 19:47:05 | GNU\colossus | am I talking to an AI or an actual human being right now? ;) |
| 19:47:14 | bluebrother | Rockbox does not require any special structure. Use anything you like. |
| 19:47:36 | GNU\colossus | ok, so "Artist/Album/" is as fine and dandy as any? |
| 19:48:06 | bluebrother | yes. |
| 19:48:22 | bluebrother | the only thing we recommend it to *not* put any of your files below the .rockbox folder |
| 19:48:23 | GNU\colossus | am I free to rmdir the pre-created directories on my player? stuff like "AUDIBLE" or "PODCASTS"? |
| 19:48:33 | GNU\colossus | yeah, I already figured that was somewhat special ;) |
| 19:48:34 | bluebrother | yes, but the OF might recreate those |
| 19:48:43 | GNU\colossus | what does OF stand for? |
| 19:48:48 | bluebrother | original firmware |
| 19:48:49 | GNU\colossus | original firmware? |
| 19:48:51 | GNU\colossus | ah yes |
| 19:48:58 | GNU\colossus | thanks for confirming, and for your advice :) |
| 19:49:38 | bluebrother | well, Rockbox works fine with your music below .rockbox. But this might cause hard to detect and impossible to fix user errors, so we generally recommend to not put anything below that folder |
| 19:49:42 | bluebrother | you're welcome |
| 19:50:54 | GNU\colossus | does rockbox support UTF-8 metadata(tags)? (I'll be using OGG Vorbis and MP3 files, with ID3v2.whatever...) |
| 19:52:55 | bluebrother | yes. |
| 19:53:03 | GNU\colossus | awesome. |
| 19:53:15 | bluebrother | it does even support doom :P |
| 19:53:34 | GNU\colossus | yeah, but I have my desktop for that anyways ;) |
| 19:54:04 | * | bluebrother thinks doom is useless on a DAP anyways |
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| 20:33:13 | Lemming | hey guys |
| 20:33:31 | Lemming | any new builds for yp r0? |
| 20:34:30 | lebellium | for R0 builds, please see on ABI. Lorenzo regularly release new builds |
| 20:35:11 | mir_thinkpad | anyone here able to fix some sansas? |
| 20:35:21 | mir_thinkpad | mainly broken screens |
| 20:36:07 | mir_thinkpad | Fuze and E200 |
| 20:36:41 | GNU\colossus | first time playing with rockbox for half an hour by now - this stuff is AWESOME. |
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| 20:39:23 | Lemming | thx lebellium) |
| 20:39:31 | Lemming | but there is no builds on ABI |
| 20:39:46 | Lemming | no new builds* |
| 20:40:23 | Lemming | so i decided to ask here) |
| 20:40:30 | Lemming | anyway thanks |
| 20:40:30 | lebellium | Lemming: latest compiled build: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/38710278/rockbox.zip |
| 20:41:51 | lebellium | And of course there are builds on ABI. The link comes from there. |
| 20:46:34 | Lemming | it seems newer than mine |
| 20:47:07 | bertrik | GNU\colossus, which sansa player do you have exactly? |
| 20:47:59 | * | bluebrother would like to see people line-breaking commit messages at 72 chars or so |
| 20:48:01 | GNU\colossus | bertrik, the Sansa Clip Plus |
| 20:48:14 | bluebrother | as most commit message templates do |
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| 20:49:21 | pixelma | that's only possible if you use(d) a text editor for the commit messages though, no? |
| 20:50:16 | bluebrother | yes, but git by default invokes $EDITOR |
| 20:50:20 | bluebrother | at least afaik |
| 20:50:50 | bluebrother | nice. I can't push because gerrit uses a different capitalization of the local part of my mail address :o |
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| 20:52:39 | GNU\colossus | local parts of rfc822 addresses may be case sensitive. I don#t know what gerrit is or does, but it seems to be doing so with attention to detail :) |
| 20:52:59 | GNU\colossus | ah, a code review webapp. interesting. |
| 20:54:16 | cliptester | help |
| 20:54:18 | Torne | bluebrother: gerrit uses whatever you told it :) |
| 20:54:30 | Torne | bluebrother: you can add any email address you control to your account |
| 20:54:35 | Torne | then it'll accept it in commits |
| 20:54:36 | pixelma | bluebrother: not sure about commit messages but for e.g. mail I don't like other people's linebreaks forced on me as that breaks if I view it in some smaller window and stuff |
| 20:54:42 | bluebrother | CIA doesn't announce git commit right now? |
| 20:54:47 | bluebrother | Torne: I just did it that way :) |
| 20:55:14 | Torne | wraping git commit messages is the usual convention |
| 20:55:25 | bluebrother | pixelma: well, 72 chars is somewhat standard. And your mail client can always rewrap it. |
| 20:55:46 | bluebrother | as for git, the default pager doesn't rewrap, which makes reading long single-line commit messages a bit inconvenient |
| 20:56:05 | bluebrother | (IMO that's the fact for svn as well, though svn doesn't use a pager by default) |
| 20:56:20 | bluebrother | and I really like the first-line-is-summary convention |
| 20:56:23 | Torne | http://tbaggery.com/2008/04/19/a-note-about-git-commit-messages.html <- this is the convention that most git projects use |
| 20:58:50 | bluebrother | that convention is quite useful even with svn. Since clients like TortoiseSVN show the first line in the commit log window :) |
| 20:59:15 | Torne | yes; i like it for everything :) |
| 20:59:34 | bluebrother | I'd strongly vote for adopting that convention |
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| 21:02:25 | bluebrother | we had some discussion about commit messages on the ML in the past: http://www.rockbox.org/mail/archive/rockbox-dev-archive-2010-09/0069.shtml |
| 21:03:52 | Torne | That was mostly abou thte content, no? |
| 21:04:37 | bluebrother | yes. |
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| 21:06:42 | cliptester | i lot of bugs were introduced in sandisk clip-plus since version 3.10 and on, currently as of svn version build #31646 and on the git versions since the mpeg player and pictureflow is not displaying fonts properly and chip8 viewer crashes and text viewer doesn't save bookmarks anymore. can someone fix these? |
| 21:07:11 | Torne | have you filed bugs fo rthe issues explaining specifically what's wrong, how to reproruce, etc? |
| 21:07:15 | Torne | if not then probably not, no :) |
| 21:08:03 | cliptester | i filed a bug report but since i"m new not sure if filed right. |
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| 21:08:46 | funman | what is FS# ? |
| 21:09:30 | funman | i dont remember chip8 viewer, pictureflow, or text viewer changes since 3.10 |
| 21:10:09 | pixelma | font drawing changes in general maybe? |
| 21:11:42 | cliptester | FS #12493 the bugs came in in between 3.9.1 and 3.10 |
| 21:11:44 | fs-bluebot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12493 problem with chip8 and mpeg player on clip+ (bugs, unconfirmed) |
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| 21:12:43 | funman | it's incredibly concise |
| 21:13:18 | gevaerts | cliptester: as a general rule, always report one single bug per bug report |
| 21:13:18 | funman | it lacks at least: which game, which mpeg file, what you expect, what 3.9.1 shows, what current build shows, what is shown on screen |
| 21:14:15 | cliptester | i tried taking a snapshot to upload but player crashes when i plugin the usb if screenshot is enabled |
| 21:14:31 | Torne | that would be another bug to report |
| 21:15:28 | gevaerts | If that was also before 3.10, it needs retesting. I increased the usb stack size just before 3.10 exactly to fix broken screenshots |
| 21:15:43 | cliptester | mpegplayer plays well but when i pause stop or change volume the fonts take up the whole screen instead of the small bar it used to show |
| 21:17:18 | cliptester | chip8 loads the game files found on the wiki says file ok and then just blackens with only a reset boot in to OF to help |
| 21:19:06 | cliptester | text viewer just stopped bookmarking or saving last location in file a little before 31646 not sure exactly when |
| 21:23:24 | funman | cliptester: please put that in respective tickets |
| 21:24:05 | cliptester | separate tickets for each? |
| 21:24:26 | funman | yes please |
| 21:26:57 | cliptester | ok, is it possible to downgrade a version to 3.9.1 and then add the options i want like shortcuts |
| 21:27:54 | bluebrother | if you want to backport the features, sure. |
| 21:29:33 | cliptester | can you provide me with the process, i know how to compile a build |
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| 21:32:56 | funman | no, we're only interested in fixing bugs in the latest release |
| 21:38:52 | cliptester | i just tried screendump using version 5ef2736-120111 and it works! |
| 21:39:16 | gevaerts | Thanks for confirming |
| 21:42:43 | cliptester | sorry still can't screenshoot in mpegplayer or pictureflow i get this message *panic* stkov usb |
| 21:43:06 | gevaerts | hm, that's interesting... |
| 21:48:14 | bluebrother | does mpegplayer actually support creating screenshots? |
| 21:48:49 | gevaerts | Maybe not, but pictureflow definitely should |
| 21:49:02 | bluebrother | maybe I'm thinking too much greylib :) |
| 21:49:05 | funman | no it doesn't |
| 21:49:12 | bluebrother | but the clip uses the greylib, doesn't it? |
| 21:49:13 | funman | might work on some models |
| 21:49:16 | funman | true |
| 21:49:34 | funman | yellow-blue-lib to be exact ^_^ |
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| 21:50:02 | bluebrother | funny-color-lib :D |
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| 22:30:48 | kugelp | bluebrother: what "strange" API? I don't find it strange at all |
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| 23:46:52 | dfkt | 08-Rockfont.fnt is the only version of that font in existence? no other sizes, or bold version? |
| 23:47:34 | dfkt | (i assume someone made it specifically for rockbox?) |
| 23:52:08 | dfkt | ah... "by Jens Arnold 10/2003 V1.0, based on work by Uwe Freese"... i guess that answers my question |
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