| 00:00:17 | funman | the 'commitdiff' is just the .diff or .patch |
| 00:00:25 | funman | with default -C 3 |
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| 00:01:17 | * | bluebrother^ starts getting frustrated |
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| 00:07:14 | bluebrother^ | is it possible to get syntax hilighting in gitweb blob view? |
| 00:07:29 | jhMikeS | I just saw something called "git-difftool" |
| 00:08:01 | jhMikeS | saw it here fwiw: http://heipei.net/2009/01/29/git-full-length-side-by-side-diffs/ |
| 00:09:04 | jhMikeS | of course, maybe noone was actually talking about that (but I don't even know what going on :) |
| 00:09:15 | jhMikeS | -towley mode |
| 00:11:00 | bluebrother^ | hmm, maybe gitweb can be made to use something like that for blob view? http://shjs.sourceforge.net/doc/documentation.html |
| 00:13:58 | [Saint] | soap: Oh...it wasn't a hint or anything. |
| 00:14:03 | [Saint] | I was just playin' |
| 00:20:37 | dfkt | bluebrother^, just built a linux uisim - same behavior as on windows. i found out however that .fms do work as long as no comment is in them - it seems to choke on "#" |
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| 00:23:08 | bluebrother^ | dfkt: nice find :) |
| 00:23:39 | dfkt | also doesn't do line breaks |
| 00:23:41 | dfkt | weird |
| 00:23:45 | bluebrother^ | ok, so it seems sapi_voice.vbs chokes when I try to use it with the german Infovox voices. "Could not get SpVoice object" :( |
| 00:24:23 | * | bluebrother^ downloads US voices |
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| 00:26:20 | bluebrother^ | hmm. Works fine with the espeak SAPI voice |
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| 00:34:32 | dfkt | AAAARGH. somehow the .fms file was macintosh ANSI formatted, built upon an old one i downloaded. converted to unix ansi, all is fine :p |
| 00:35:04 | dfkt | nice waste of an hour |
| 00:35:45 | gevaerts | Hm, we should probably try to handle those |
| 00:36:18 | * | bluebrother^ nods |
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| 00:58:06 | saratoga | Bluebrother^: if SVN rbutil is working fine, maybe a link on the SansaAMS wiki page to your builds would be a good idea |
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| 01:16:40 | bluebrother^ | saratoga: not sure. People can always check the RockboxUtility wiki page on what has been changed, and there's a sticky in the forums telling that there are svn binaries around |
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| 01:17:06 | saratoga | bluebrother^: ideally people should be able to get everything they need from the wiki though without digging through the forums |
| 01:17:16 | bluebrother^ | but linking them ... I wouldn't be surprised people only using those binaries and not watching for actual releases anymore |
| 01:17:17 | saratoga | right now the wiki says to use the manual install |
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| 01:19:39 | saratoga | its your call if you want people to use svn or just the manual tools |
| 01:19:45 | bluebrother^ | well, people should use the manual, not the wiki for such things |
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| 01:20:23 | bluebrother^ | well, maybe it would be best to have a section on RockboxUtiltiy, and put a link there. |
| 01:20:33 | bluebrother^ | and then link to that section from the wiki |
| 01:20:33 | saratoga | sorry, I mean the manual install, we don't have a zip manual yet |
| 01:20:57 | bluebrother^ | I guess we need to fix the missing manual then :) |
| 01:25:40 | funman | not sure what's missing for the manual |
| 01:25:59 | saratoga | the html version doesn't seem to compile right, and i think figures are missing for various stuff |
| 01:29:57 | bluebrother^ | saratoga: ok, I've put a link up |
| 01:31:09 | bluebrother^ | hmm. Acapela voice still not working after reboot. Cepstral does work but doesn't show the problem. |
| 01:31:12 | * | bluebrother^ grumbles |
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| 01:35:08 | Amqui1 | hey |
| 01:36:18 | saratoga | sup |
| 01:36:30 | bluebrother^ | blubb |
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| 01:44:08 | Amqui1 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Kv-MMZvYUY |
| 01:45:16 | saratoga | Amqui1: this is an on topic channel, if you want to socialize check out rockbox-community |
| 01:45:45 | Amqui1 | what's the topic ? |
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| 01:47:22 | scorche | Amqui: see the topic of this channel... |
| 01:50:24 | Amqui | it's a help channel or what ? |
| 01:51:00 | saratoga | mostly development, some support |
| 01:51:28 | Amqui | ok |
| 01:51:54 | Amqui | that was a good video for your personal development :P |
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| 02:05:44 | dfkt | git pull −−rebase will keep my locally applied patches, and without −−rebase it will drop them? |
| 02:13:41 | funman | dfkt: it will merge 2 brqnches |
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| 02:15:34 | funman | if you have: origin=X #1 #2 #3 (3 patches on top of origin which is commit X) |
| 02:15:43 | funman | someone pushes Y and Z |
| 02:15:56 | funman | pull −−rebase -> X Y origin=Z #1 #2 #2 |
| 02:16:00 | funman | pull -> |
| 02:16:12 | funman | X #1 #2 #3 -\ |
| 02:16:27 | funman | X Y Z -/ |
| 02:17:16 | dfkt | i see, thanks... quite a different concept than svn |
| 02:17:45 | dfkt | git reset −−hard HEAD is the equivalent to svn revert -R ., when i mess things up? |
| 02:19:00 | shapr | Hi, I'm loving rockbox, but I'd like to develop my own plugins... I think. |
| 02:19:33 | shapr | I want to start and stop a timer, and have the times saved to some sort of text file. |
| 02:19:52 | shapr | I've tried the stopwatch plugin, but it doesn't work quite as I expected.... |
| 02:22:30 | saratoga | never tried, but get_time probably does what you want |
| 02:23:27 | shapr | Does the Lua plugin have lots of functionality? |
| 02:23:32 | shapr | My C skillz are minimal at best. |
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| 02:24:21 | shapr | but I've written Lua for WoW and Ion{1,2,3} |
| 02:24:40 | shapr | Anyway, rockbox truly does rock :-) |
| 02:25:23 | saratoga | i think it wraps most of the c api functions, but i've never used it |
| 02:27:49 | shapr | Thanks, I'll dig around the website more. |
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| 02:43:16 | funman | shapr: for lua look at existing plugins |
| 02:43:26 | alienkid10 | on text editor (on fuze+) how do I add a newline? |
| 02:59:07 | alienkid10 | can the text editor add a new line period? |
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| 03:01:15 | mc2739 | alienkid10: bring up the menu and select "Insert Above" or "Insert Below" |
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| 03:12:20 | alienkid10 | mc2739: what menu? |
| 03:12:39 | alienkid10 | if I tap back I get to a "do what?" menu |
| 03:15:31 | mc2739 | alienkid10: it should be the same action you use to bring up the context menu (like in the file listing) |
| 03:15:57 | alienkid10 | hold that just delates the line |
| 03:25:31 | alienkid10 | it's probably the current fuze keymap. |
| 03:26:10 | mc2739 | alienkid10: try pressing the upper left corner |
| 03:26:51 | alienkid10 | just brings up the "do what?" menu to save it, etc. Do you long press? |
| 03:27:52 | alienkid10 | no other buttons do anything besides the expected ones |
| 03:29:05 | alienkid10 | left/quick center edits line, up/down move up/down a line in files I make with other lines. top left brings "do what?" up |
| 03:30:34 | mc2739 | not sure then - it may not be setup properly in the keymap/touch mapping yet |
| 03:30:47 | alienkid10 | yeah |
| 03:30:47 | alienkid10 | that's what I'm guessing |
| 03:31:25 | alienkid10 | what's the menu you mean supposed to have on it? |
| 03:33:05 | mc2739 | the menu is "Line Options" and includes Cut/Delete, Copy, Insert Above, Insert Below, Concat To Above, Save, Playback Control |
| 03:33:51 | alienkid10 | hm |
| 03:33:53 | alienkid10 | yeah |
| 03:34:13 | alienkid10 | I wonder how complex that would be to change. |
| 03:34:21 | alienkid10 | I might be able to do it. |
| 03:34:41 | alienkid10 | I guess I'll take a look. What file would it be? |
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| 10:41:29 | bluebrother | [Saint]: why that? |
| 10:42:28 | [Saint] | I wanted to make a first run wizard for rbutil, to set up a portable install, but...rbutil is an interesting beast. |
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| 10:46:50 | bluebrother | urgh. It _really_ seems to be caused by that "replacement" for waitForReadyRead() that's causing the output file missing sometime |
| 10:47:15 | bluebrother | and whoever got the idea that this TTS stuff would be thread safe? |
| 10:47:35 | bluebrother | (or could be made thread safe at all using a single cscript runner?) |
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| 10:48:16 | bluebrother | so that _could_ explain why the TTS fails only for some people on some machines with some voices. |
| 10:49:14 | bluebrother | time for a full rebuild, just in case. |
| 10:50:02 | bluebrother | [Saint]: what do you want to do with a first run install? To get a portable install just use the entry from the File menu (only available if the binary is built statically) |
| 10:50:10 | [Saint] | I'd like to be able to do something along the lines of "Make a Portable Installation", then prompt to select a mount-point, then copy the rbutil binary to it, create a cache dir, and make sure the .ini gets where its supposed to be and offer to clean up (remove the rbutil copy that launched it) on exit. |
| 10:50:41 | [Saint] | ...too much to bother with? |
| 10:52:44 | bluebrother | well, you can't easily remove a binary that's currently running. |
| 10:52:50 | bluebrother | at least on Windows this is a problem |
| 10:53:07 | bluebrother | as for the rest ... the menu entry already does that. With the exception of the cache setting |
| 10:53:27 | bluebrother | since it might not be wanted to have cache files on your player :) |
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| 10:54:54 | bluebrother | see RbUtilQt::installPortable() |
| 10:55:04 | bluebrother | (rbutilqt.cpp:1161) |
| 10:55:11 | [Saint] | I was thinking thumb-drive, believe it or not the idea of installing rockbox from rbutil installed to and running from the intended target hadn't occurred to me :) |
| 10:55:44 | bluebrother | though the removal of an already existing ini file might not be the best idea :o |
| 10:55:54 | bluebrother | well, isn't a player a thumb drive these days? ;-) |
| 10:56:24 | bluebrother | but you can do the same for a thumb drive. Just select that as player. You can trick it into doing some things ... :D |
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| 12:18:17 | CIA-81 | Commit by Dominik.Riebeling (42fa2a8): Improve error handling and logging. |
| 12:22:07 | [Saint] | Is there ever going to be some commit id→human readable revision number conversion? |
| 12:24:20 | [Saint] | Its rather obvious that, for instance, r12345 comes before r12346, but with 42fa2a8 and friends...its anyone's guess. |
| 12:25:41 | * | [Saint] understands this has /probably/ been mentioned already...but I'm not certain, nor have I seen talk of this. |
| 12:28:38 | TheLemonMan | you have to create a table that associates the commit hash to a revision id |
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| 12:35:21 | dfkt | those md5 hashes are pretty hard on the eyes, indeed |
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| 12:38:49 | bluebrother | dfkt: not necessarily. You can use git describe to get a nicer format |
| 12:38:55 | bluebrother | to some degree ... |
| 12:39:12 | bluebrother | TheLemonMan: ^^ |
| 12:39:22 | bluebrother | not dfkt :o |
| 12:42:23 | TheLemonMan | oh, nice, didnt know of that |
| 12:44:46 | bluebrother | this has been discussed before in this channel if you want to search the logs |
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| 14:00:18 | alexpapa | hi everybody. I just wanted to submit fm preset file for Kiev, Ukraine but the process to do it is so complicated (wiki registrationi, irc). What should i do next ? Do you still need presets file ? (looks like they updated not so frequently) |
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| 14:38:00 | Mineo | hi, I'm having trouble submitting changes to gerrit. logging in over ssh works as described on the wiki but all "git push origin HEAD:master" results in is "fatal: Upload denied for project 'rockbox'" |
| 14:38:28 | JdGord | Gerrit isn't actually enabled yet I think |
| 14:38:46 | Mineo | oh |
| 14:40:29 | Mineo | I think that's worth mentioning in the wiki :) |
| 14:41:05 | bluebrother | it's mentioned in the announcement mail :) |
| 14:41:10 | JdGord | It will be open soon.... |
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| 14:41:45 | gevaerts | Well, *technically* gerrit is enabled, but it happens to only be enabled for the sandbox project :) |
| 14:41:46 | bluebrother | http://www.rockbox.org/mail/archive//rockbox-dev-archive-2012-01/0025.shtml −− the last but one paragraph |
| 14:43:01 | Mineo | ah, right. well, I'm not actually subscribed to any of the rockbox mailing lists, I was actually browsing rockbox.org for some totally different information and saw the project news :) |
| 14:44:12 | gevaerts | We don't even have automatic builds back yet. We'll get there in the end :) |
| 14:46:32 | Mineo | alright, I can wait - it's not like I've invented the best thing since sliced bread or anything :p |
| 14:50:39 | gevaerts | Flyspray is still there and operational |
| 14:51:51 | Mineo | somewhat related to gerrit: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/UsingGit#Applying_a_change_from_someone_else_40like_translations_41 could certainly use some information about "git am" - do you consider that worth adding? |
| 14:53:27 | gevaerts | hm, probably, I guess |
| 14:53:33 | * | gevaerts isn't a git specialist |
| 14:53:47 | Mineo | sure, but there hasn't been any comment on my patches on flyspray |
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| 14:54:38 | Mineo | (although that isn't suprising considering the sheer number of patches) |
| 14:55:33 | JdGordon | we are pretty slack when it comes to patches |
| 14:55:56 | gevaerts | Yes, We *do* have a problem with getting patches reviewed. We're hoping that gerrit will improve things a bit, but it won't solve everything on its own |
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| 14:57:07 | CIA-81 | Commit by rockbox (c2f0ba7): fix compiler error, missed action.h |
| 14:57:19 | JdGordon | haha Zagor ^ :) |
| 14:58:08 | Mineo | I imagine simply reducing the number of open reviews (be it by ignoring ones not getting resubmitted to gerrit or whatnot) will help with that :) |
| 14:58:41 | JdGordon | the bar for entry with gerrit will be lower, simply because there is a "commit patch" button so we dont need to download and apply the patch :) |
| 14:59:08 | JdGordon | but anyway, the rule here is, if you want a patch to get attention you need to come and bug us on irc |
| 14:59:19 | JdGordon | and then stay for the fun in #rockbox-community :) |
| 14:59:22 | gevaerts | Also there's the possibility to integrate this with the build system so we can test-build patches much more easily |
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| 15:04:15 | JdGordon | gevaerts: there is absolutly no point me setting up another build client right now is there? |
| 15:04:32 | gevaerts | I doubt that, yes |
| 15:04:48 | JdGordon | I wonder if there is much point adding my server anyway... not hugely powerful and horrible upload speed on my net :/ |
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| 15:46:31 | soap | has there been any discussion of two build server pools? One for commits and one for commiter testing use? |
| 15:47:02 | gevaerts | Is there a good reason for not doing that in one pool? |
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| 16:29:06 | * | bluebrother considers dropping festival support from Rockbox Utility for at least a while |
| 16:29:33 | bluebrother | its client-server-thing is really a pain when dealing with multithreading |
| 16:29:43 | bluebrother | at least the way it's done right now |
| 16:29:53 | CIA-81 | Commit by roolku (7c8f5ec): extra text test |
| 16:38:19 | CIA-81 | Commit by Dominik.Riebeling (820dcfd): Remove multithreading support from voicefile creation. |
| 16:41:23 | pixelma | was roolku's commit in the sandbox branch or something? |
| 16:59:32 | jhMikeS | indeed |
| 16:59:50 | soap | gevaerts, I can't answer that. I guess the difference between "two pools" and "one pool with two different behaviors" is pushing semantics, though. |
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| 17:00:40 | soap | overall point being I would have thought a "testing pool" (be it either way) would be of some value and if the "commit pool" has more than enough horsepower there are clearly resources untapped. |
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| 17:04:25 | gevaerts | soap: it might make sense to allow build clients to specify which kinds of build they're willing to do |
| 17:05:54 | gevaerts | But in general, technically as soon as we use gerrit to upload changes for review, those changes are git commits in the same repository as trunk^H^H^H^H^Hmaster or branches, so the build master can send their id to the client |
| 17:06:48 | soap | I've been out of the game for nearly a year, so forgive me, but when you say "which kinds of builds" do you mean arch (I thought we already did this) or master / branch? |
| 17:10:43 | gevaerts | I mean head/branch/test |
| 17:11:55 | gevaerts | I can imagine that if we can test-build patches using the build system, this might be a feature that's used a lot, so it might provide too much load for some of the people who run build clients |
| 17:12:49 | gevaerts | And if that's the case, it's probably better to restrict those clients to the main builds and not do testing builds on them, rather than lose them entirely |
| 17:13:31 | gevaerts | We're not there yet though, maybe the extra load won't be that noticeable |
| 17:19:00 | soap | Same general idea as my query - providing resources to test builds. |
| 17:19:51 | soap | optional upload of results to < location > would be nice too if someone wanted to host test builds as has been done in the past. |
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| 17:32:32 | gevaerts | Yes, I definitely want that at some point |
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| 18:08:22 | bluebrother | thinking of it, why isn't the syncronization between speaking and encoding done using signals and slots? |
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| 18:12:16 | bluebrother | could simplify things quite a bit |
| 18:18:43 | n1s | gevaerts: could a "test" build be triggered by some pre commit hook that would reject it if it didn't build cleanly? |
| 18:20:41 | gevaerts | I suspect it could, yes |
| 18:22:38 | n1s | that could be interesting, although perhaps optional |
| 18:23:57 | pixelma | which of the new port manuals was reported broken or not working yet - Fuze+, Clip Zip or? |
| 18:24:23 | n1s | i think the clip zip |
| 18:25:14 | n1s | yeah the online manual ends after the installation chapter |
| 18:26:08 | pixelma | ok, I'll have a quick look |
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| 18:35:10 | pixelma | the only report *error* seems to be the missing player image for the quick start chapter |
| 18:35:17 | pixelma | *reported |
| 18:35:56 | funman | TheSeven: did you have time to try my patch? it's quite basic |
| 18:36:46 | TheSeven | funman: sorry, I probably can't deal with that before february, I have some critical android stuff to finish |
| 18:37:19 | funman | let me see who else owns a nano2g or classic |
| 18:37:22 | n1s | pixelma: that could be it, we should probably make it continue the build even without that |
| 18:37:57 | funman | [Saint]: ping |
| 18:38:12 | pixelma | n1s: maybe, although I find that one quite important as it explains what the buttons are referred to |
| 18:38:58 | n1s | yeah, but it could output some error in the text like for missing regular screenshots instead of just breaking |
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| 18:45:53 | pixelma | I'd be a bit afraid that it'll be forgotten or ignored easily then, not sure |
| 18:46:27 | funman | IMO it should not break |
| 18:46:46 | funman | all the chapters are better than only the firsts |
| 18:47:21 | pixelma | at least this way you have a reminder that there is still important things to do |
| 18:47:22 | funman | the missing images should be easy to notice for the person who'll work on the manual |
| 18:48:02 | funman | no need for the reminder :) |
| 18:48:20 | pixelma | the screenshot images are something I don't care that much about and they don't break the manual, I'm only talking about the player image that explains how the buttons are named |
| 18:48:48 | pixelma | not so sure about the "no need" |
| 18:48:53 | funman | the manual has plenty other useful informations even without this image |
| 18:49:03 | funman | no need because we know there's plenty of Clip Zip work left |
| 18:49:09 | bluebrother | might make sense to make that image missing not break the build |
| 18:49:15 | funman | http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaClip#Sansa_Clip_Zip_port_status |
| 18:49:45 | bluebrother | similar to what we do with the screenshots |
| 18:49:45 | funman | there's no default theme, a lot of plugins just are crap |
| 18:50:56 | pixelma | so then it doesn't matter that the manual doesn't build either ;) |
| 18:51:13 | funman | it does, some people are using the clip zip even with its problems |
| 18:51:59 | funman | full manual with missing pictures => less stupid requests on the forum => more free time not spent on the forum and spent on fixing zip problems :) |
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| 18:54:30 | pixelma | maybe it arouses other stupid questions like "the manual says to press the Whatever button but I don't know which this Whatever button is" |
| 18:54:41 | * | pixelma points to the ;) again though |
| 18:55:53 | pixelma | it's just that hidden problems are just no problems at all to some people |
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| 18:58:50 | * | bluebrother tries to make the manual build even with a missing front image |
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| 19:04:38 | pixelma | for some reason I thought that there were some Clip Zip images already though. Maybe I'm confusing this with the Fuze+ though |
| 19:10:06 | bluebrother | well, not requiring the front image to be present can help in getting new targets' manuals up faster |
| 19:28:21 | * | funman installed mactex but dunno where to find the binaries |
| 19:30:18 | funman | /Library/TeX/Root/bin/x86_64-darwin |
| 19:44:11 | dreamlayers | Can someone add me to Rockbox Committers group on Gerrit? (I already registered. I assume it's ok to use my gmail address; I don't need an @rockbox.org address.) |
| 19:44:35 | funman | bluebrother: pixelma: http://pastie.org/3185221 |
| 19:44:43 | funman | the build still fails but the manual looks quite complete |
| 19:44:59 | funman | dreamlayers: ask Torne or Zagor |
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| 20:00:40 | funman | ! Illegal parameter number in definition of \reserved@a. |
| 20:00:47 | funman | l.13 {\typeout{Missing image: #1 (\specimg)}} |
| 20:01:29 | pixelma | well, maybe the # has a meaning in tex there |
| 20:04:30 | funman | i took the definition from screenshopt |
| 20:04:44 | funman | ah right |
| 20:04:48 | funman | screenshot takes parameters |
| 20:08:41 | funman | manual build doesn't work on osx |
| 20:09:52 | funman | not sure what "cp −−parent" does, my manual only tells about −−parents |
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| 20:14:05 | dreamlayers | −−parent is −−parents; you just need enough of the long option to make it unambiguous |
| 20:14:34 | CIA-81 | Commit by funman (36489d9): manual: don't error out if front image is missing |
| 20:15:08 | funman | i'll just ignore this error i think |
| 20:15:34 | * | Mir pokes funman with a broken e200 |
| 20:15:42 | funman | Mir: e200v2 ? |
| 20:15:49 | Mir | i dont know |
| 20:15:53 | Mir | :( |
| 20:16:11 | Mir | the back is missing and the screen is shattered |
| 20:16:38 | funman | zip manual should be online tomorrow |
| 20:16:46 | Mir | :) |
| 20:16:47 | Mir | \o/ |
| 20:16:53 | Mir | i ran over my clip |
| 20:16:55 | Mir | D: |
| 20:17:09 | Mir | but it still works like it did before i ran it over :D |
| 20:17:37 | Mir | also had a friend give me some mp3 playesrs in hopes i can repair them |
| 20:17:59 | Mir | both sansa's have broken/shattered screens |
| 20:18:05 | rasher | Hm, what does this mean when trying to compile Android: http://pastebin.com/mbU8gyNj tons of "bad class file magic (cafebabe) or version (0033.0000)" |
| 20:18:12 | rasher | er, compile Rockbox *for* android |
| 20:18:16 | Mir | one is a mysterious e200 of unknown size |
| 20:18:29 | funman | rasher: android.rock? :) |
| 20:18:29 | Mir | the other is an 8gb fuze |
| 20:19:14 | funman | rasher: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7866723/dx-bad-class-file-magic-cafebabe-or-version-0033-0000-with-adk14 ? |
| 20:19:19 | Mir | so i am looking for parts |
| 20:19:26 | Mir | and sup funman |
| 20:19:57 | funman | i'm looking for a nano2g owner |
| 20:20:50 | Mir | pictures? |
| 20:21:20 | funman | ? |
| 20:21:28 | Mir | i might have one |
| 20:21:46 | Mir | but i have to see a picture to tell because i am a visual person |
| 20:22:25 | funman | http://download.rockbox.org/daily/manual/rockbox-ipodnano2g/rockbox-buildch3.html#x5-250003 |
| 20:23:23 | Mir | i have one like that except its got the bigger screen and predates the model with the camera |
| 20:23:51 | funman | so it's not a 2g |
| 20:24:26 | Mir | nope |
| 20:24:44 | Mir | i also have the older version with the plastic boxier body |
| 20:24:50 | Mir | its got a dead battery |
| 20:25:34 | Mir | somewhere i should have an iTouch(myself) |
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| 20:54:42 | bluebrother | funman: two problems: (1) IfFileExists doesn't add the correct file extension as includegraphics does, (2) you missed the remote image |
| 20:55:12 | bluebrother | I've had something similar up already but since I'm switching machines quite a bit right now haven't pushed yet |
| 20:55:15 | * | bluebrother fixes |
| 20:57:33 | CIA-81 | Commit by Dominik.Riebeling (bb24ac8): Manual: don't break on missing player image. |
| 20:57:44 | [Saint] | funman: you rang? |
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| 21:00:01 | * | bluebrother hates scarcely tested commits :( |
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| 21:08:15 | ScHlAuChi | hi |
| 21:08:32 | ScHlAuChi | when Rockbox freezes, is there anything you can do beside waiting till the battery runs out? ;) |
| 21:08:53 | gevaerts | Hard reset the player |
| 21:09:03 | ScHlAuChi | i tried that |
| 21:09:14 | ScHlAuChi | theres a little rest hole on my iriver iHP140 |
| 21:09:21 | ScHlAuChi | but when i press it, nothing happens |
| 21:09:45 | bluebrother | then you have broken it in some way. |
| 21:09:50 | bluebrother | that's a hard reset button |
| 21:09:52 | ScHlAuChi | it works when the original firmware is running, but not with rockbox, so i assumed Rockbox doesnt support it |
| 21:10:15 | bluebrother | there's no way for any software to not "support" a hardware reset button |
| 21:10:44 | ScHlAuChi | well i thought that hard rest button sends some sort of shutdown signal to the firware |
| 21:11:18 | bluebrother | no |
| 21:11:27 | bluebrother | a hard reset button pulls a line on the CPU |
| 21:11:39 | bluebrother | that's how a hard reset works. |
| 21:11:40 | ScHlAuChi | i see, so if it doesnt react its broken? |
| 21:11:45 | bluebrother | yes |
| 21:12:07 | bluebrother | or you didn't press it correctly. That button on the h100 is a bit hard to hit |
| 21:12:37 | bluebrother | maybe you've managed to only hit it at the side, getting a tactile feedback but not actually making the electrical connection |
| 21:13:01 | ScHlAuChi | ill check again later, im currently let it generate the database |
| 21:13:02 | ScHlAuChi | i see |
| 21:13:16 | ScHlAuChi | i did feel a "click" |
| 21:13:25 | bluebrother | a paperclip usually works good. A needle is a bad idea. |
| 21:13:30 | ScHlAuChi | maybe i need to push stronger |
| 21:13:36 | ScHlAuChi | yeah i have a paperclip just for that |
| 21:13:49 | ScHlAuChi | So it looks like you want to reset! |
| 21:14:14 | bluebrother | there's also the possibility that the contacts are dirty and don't give electrical contact the first time. |
| 21:14:21 | * | bluebrother doesn't want to reset |
| 21:14:40 | ScHlAuChi | goddamn talking paperclips! |
| 21:14:44 | bluebrother | want to implement a Clippy plugin for Rockbox? |
| 21:14:49 | ScHlAuChi | i cant code |
| 21:14:56 | ScHlAuChi | im a designer |
| 21:15:01 | bluebrother | you can learn it |
| 21:15:02 | ScHlAuChi | i let ppl code up my ideas! |
| 21:15:08 | ScHlAuChi | too late ;) |
| 21:15:16 | bluebrother | definitely not |
| 21:15:50 | ScHlAuChi | well no company will ever hire me as a programmer, but my designer resume is long enough to easily get a job, soo its too late ;) |
| 21:16:08 | bluebrother | you don't need a company to learn programming |
| 21:16:25 | ScHlAuChi | i know, but you need time! |
| 21:16:27 | bluebrother | and you don't need to work as a programmer just to program things |
| 21:16:38 | ScHlAuChi | its all about having the time |
| 21:17:02 | bluebrother | yes, but that doesn't necessarily imply it's "too late" to learn programming. |
| 21:17:18 | ScHlAuChi | well ok if you see it this way ;) |
| 21:17:27 | bluebrother | if it's important enough for you you'll manage to find the time. |
| 21:17:56 | ScHlAuChi | not the case unfortunately |
| 21:18:20 | bluebrother | If I start considering it important to get feature X done I'll find the time. Maybe not immediately, but well. Same goes f.e. if I decide to learn a language. Or an instrument. |
| 21:18:39 | bluebrother | but we're getting off topic here. |
| 21:18:47 | ScHlAuChi | i will be already happy if we get our game done in time :P |
| 21:18:49 | ScHlAuChi | yep ;) |
| 21:18:54 | ScHlAuChi | all thanks to CLippy! |
| 21:20:03 | ScHlAuChi | i recently modded my iHP 140 with a 240GB HD |
| 21:20:10 | ScHlAuChi | maybe somethng damaged the reset? |
| 21:20:59 | bluebrother | possible |
| 21:22:23 | ScHlAuChi | well ill retry once the database building is done in godknows when ;) |
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| 21:23:08 | ScHlAuChi | i was playing a broken mod file yesterday and that did hang the player, and reset didnt work, so had to wait like 12 hours till battery was out :P |
| 21:24:28 | bluebrother | a broken file shouldn't hang the player though |
| 21:24:41 | bluebrother | but it can always be a bug in Rockbox. |
| 21:26:18 | ScHlAuChi | it might have caused a bug that did hang it |
| 21:29:00 | ScHlAuChi | want to try it? |
| 21:29:33 | bluebrother | I'm not working on codecs, but people that do might be interested. |
| 21:29:48 | ScHlAuChi | i mean seeing if it hangs for you too |
| 21:29:50 | bluebrother | if you can reproduce the problem it might be worth opening an issue in Flyspray |
| 21:30:00 | bluebrother | sure, I could try it on my h100 |
| 21:30:32 | bluebrother | though I guess I should update that to the most current build first :) |
| 21:30:40 | ScHlAuChi | yep |
| 21:30:49 | ScHlAuChi | im still amazed how good that player holds up |
| 21:31:44 | ScHlAuChi | is there any modern player that is as good feature wise? |
| 21:33:02 | bluebrother | depends on which features you want to have |
| 21:33:09 | ScHlAuChi | same as iHP ;) |
| 21:33:24 | bluebrother | you won't get a player with exactly the same features. |
| 21:33:29 | ScHlAuChi | similar then |
| 21:33:45 | bluebrother | but I'm pretty sure you don't care about _all_ features of it. |
| 21:33:52 | ScHlAuChi | yeah like Radio |
| 21:34:08 | bluebrother | personally I like the mini2g (which isn't modern either) because of its size and the possibility to CF-mod it. |
| 21:34:20 | bluebrother | though audio quality wise the h100 is still better. |
| 21:34:34 | bluebrother | plus I have an infrared remote for the h100 these days :) |
| 21:34:44 | ScHlAuChi | infared remote? |
| 21:34:56 | bluebrother | yeps |
| 21:34:57 | ScHlAuChi | instead of that cable thing? |
| 21:35:02 | bluebrother | yes. |
| 21:35:16 | ScHlAuChi | ah i see |
| 21:35:30 | bluebrother | I rarely use the cable remote. It's not really useful IMO |
| 21:35:44 | bluebrother | but it's possible to interface your own hardware with the player. |
| 21:35:44 | ScHlAuChi | im not going to replace my h100 anytime soon, especially now that its modded to 240GB |
| 21:35:56 | ScHlAuChi | just wondering if it ever breaks if there is a good modern replacement |
| 21:36:07 | ScHlAuChi | and by that i dont mean ipod ;) |
| 21:36:25 | bluebrother | well, that really depends on what you consider a "good modern" player |
| 21:36:56 | ScHlAuChi | lots of space, fantastic audio quality, digital out, many formats supported |
| 21:37:03 | bluebrother | these days player have color displays. Something I don't want for everyday use. It's a nice thing when the player is sitting on my desk though. But readability in sunlight ... |
| 21:37:12 | ScHlAuChi | dont need that either |
| 21:37:16 | bluebrother | digital out? That should leave pretty much zero |
| 21:37:21 | ScHlAuChi | really? |
| 21:37:39 | ScHlAuChi | so h100 series was the only player to ever have that? ;) |
| 21:37:40 | bluebrother | I'm not aware of any other player that has digital out. |
| 21:37:51 | bluebrother | even the h300 didn't have digital out (IIRC) |
| 21:37:58 | ScHlAuChi | interesting |
| 21:38:58 | bluebrother | hmm, DeviceChart doesn't list this feature :/ |
| 21:39:06 | ScHlAuChi | ah well guess i worry about that once the h100 breaks, which doesnt seem likely |
| 21:39:24 | bluebrother | ah, it's called S/PDIF on that page |
| 21:39:28 | ScHlAuChi | to happyn anytime soon |
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| 21:40:02 | bluebrother | some of the archos are listed to have S/PDIF |
| 21:40:11 | bluebrother | but that's it. |
| 21:41:01 | ScHlAuChi | http://realmods.online.fr/DesertDream.zip |
| 21:41:18 | ScHlAuChi | those are the "broken" files |
| 21:41:22 | saratoga | can someone try compiling some manual changes for me? |
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| 21:43:28 | bluebrother | hmm, doesn't play on SA9200 with a not-really-recent Rockbox |
| 21:43:36 | bluebrother | but doesn't crash either |
| 21:43:47 | ScHlAuChi | im on latest iriver build |
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| 21:43:55 | ScHlAuChi | h100 build i mean |
| 21:44:18 | ScHlAuChi | when i played the first file it did some garbled sounds and then hanged |
| 21:44:33 | ScHlAuChi | the files are broken (no idea in what way) |
| 21:44:43 | ScHlAuChi | i redownloaded from another source and those worked |
| 21:45:07 | ScHlAuChi | but still i guess it might be interesting for them devs so they can make it non hangable |
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| 21:46:44 | bluebrother | looks like I don't have m68k-elf on this machine :( |
| 21:47:18 | * | bluebrother goes building |
| 21:47:27 | ScHlAuChi | being able to play old amiga tracker music is one of the best features of ROckbox ever ;) |
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| 21:49:45 | saratoga | i'll just post the zip manual changes to the tracker |
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| 21:52:35 | pixelma | [21:00:02] -*- bluebrother hates scarcely tested commits :( <- me too, and I'm also still a bit angry about the German update |
| 21:53:19 | ScHlAuChi | what german update? |
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| 21:54:10 | pixelma | to the German translation that was pushed without asking a German committer |
| 21:54:28 | ScHlAuChi | ah just wondered, im german too, didnt notice anything |
| 21:54:50 | ScHlAuChi | then again my rockbox isnt running in german :P |
| 21:55:02 | bluebrother | that one that introduced a Deppenleerzeichen? |
| 21:55:11 | ScHlAuChi | hehe |
| 21:55:52 | * | bluebrother read an article yesterday that claims this to be caused by T9 |
| 21:56:05 | bluebrother | or at least people doing such things because of T9 |
| 21:56:10 | ScHlAuChi | whats T9? |
| 21:56:29 | bluebrother | since T9 has problems with concatenated words (which german has quite a bit) |
| 21:56:37 | bluebrother | that mobile phone text entry mode |
| 21:56:40 | ScHlAuChi | ah |
| 21:56:48 | bluebrother | I'm pretty sure you know it :) |
| 21:57:05 | pixelma | bluebrother: not sure it did but it was inconsistent I believe and just pushed by funman quite shortly after the switch to git and "just because there were a few on the tracker" |
| 21:57:10 | bluebrother | in pretty much every phone since 10 years or so. |
| 21:57:44 | stripwax | maybe not so much on newer phones |
| 21:57:56 | bluebrother | pixelma: I don't like such reasons either. If there are too many tasks on the tracker people sould start working on those tasks instead of implementing new stuff all the time :) |
| 21:57:57 | saratoga | T9 is basically dead at this point anyway |
| 21:59:05 | bluebrother | not really. There are still heaps of non-smartphone phones in the field |
| 21:59:28 | ScHlAuChi | aka the REAL phones ;) |
| 21:59:35 | bluebrother | yes, phones :D |
| 21:59:44 | bluebrother | but smartphones somewhat obsolete T9 |
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| 22:00:33 | bluebrother | and having a real keyboard is way nicer to use as well |
| 22:00:51 | pixelma | bluebrother: I'm most upset because there are enough native German speakers among the committers that could have been asked. I wouldn't dare pushing a French update as long as I know there are native speakers around |
| 22:01:02 | ScHlAuChi | the best concept so far i saw was those virtual laserkeyboard thingies |
| 22:01:12 | ScHlAuChi | that display a keyboard on a flat surface |
| 22:01:56 | pixelma | I know I was lazy about Rockbox for quite a while and put real life higher on my priority list |
| 22:02:43 | ScHlAuChi | FlySpry Bug Entry: Real Life - Priority: High |
| 22:03:11 | ScHlAuChi | Closed: Not a bug |
| 22:03:27 | pixelma | heh :) |
| 22:04:11 | bluebrother | real life _is_ more important |
| 22:04:19 | bluebrother | after all, it's the real thing :) |
| 22:05:17 | ScHlAuChi | great graphics, but crappy gameplay |
| 22:05:41 | bluebrother | and only one life! |
| 22:05:56 | saratoga | " File `lmodern.sty' not found." any idea what package this involves on karmic? |
| 22:06:50 | gevaerts | saratoga: it's in the lmodern package on debian |
| 22:06:52 | ScHlAuChi | bluebrother: i was wondering, isnt there a way to "hack" the iHP firmware to accept more than 9999 files? |
| 22:07:21 | saratoga | ah thought i tried that but i guess not |
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| 22:07:31 | bluebrother | no idea. I never was interested in that −− once I started using Rockbox I stopped using the iriver firmware |
| 22:07:39 | stripwax | ScHlAuChi - almost certainly "yes, but incredibly hard" |
| 22:07:46 | bluebrother | my player doesn't have the iriver firmware flashed anymore at all |
| 22:07:50 | ScHlAuChi | ah |
| 22:08:00 | ScHlAuChi | just wondered because SRS is really nice |
| 22:08:09 | bluebrother | if they allocate static buffers I would consider it impossible unless you have the source code |
| 22:08:09 | ScHlAuChi | only reason why i keep original firmware |
| 22:08:11 | stripwax | I don't recall there being any iHP firmware hacks *at all* other than cosmetic ones (images etc) |
| 22:09:06 | stripwax | (ihpbmp, etc) |
| 22:09:44 | ScHlAuChi | i see, would have been interesting because of SRS Surround, or is there anyway in Rockbox to achive the same result? |
| 22:11:29 | bluebrother | since it's some patented thing pretty much nobody knows what's doing: no |
| 22:11:53 | bluebrother | I've gotten used to not using this kind of things pretty soon |
| 22:13:10 | ScHlAuChi | not a big deal anyway |
| 22:13:51 | bertrik | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound_Retrieval_System mentions patents, but also says they expired in between 2006-2008 |
| 22:14:41 | saratoga | i started reverse engineering one of those random sound effect systems a while go |
| 22:14:52 | saratoga | they're pretty simple, at least the ones in device firmwares |
| 22:15:41 | ScHlAuChi | thats why i was wondering if Rockbox had something similar |
| 22:16:34 | bluebrother | ScHlAuChi: ok, finally could try it. Current git simply skips those files on my h100 |
| 22:16:55 | saratoga | i want to try compiling the stock git version of my changes, is there some easy way to do that in git? |
| 22:17:10 | bluebrother | stock git version? |
| 22:17:18 | bluebrother | i.e. HEAD without your local changes? |
| 22:17:19 | bertrik | we don't have that many effects, basically EQ, stereo width and crossfeed IIRC |
| 22:17:21 | saratoga | yeah |
| 22:17:30 | bluebrother | stash your changes away |
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| 22:17:34 | bluebrother | git stash |
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| 22:18:04 | ScHlAuChi | bluebrother: ah so i guess i just have to wait for a new build to avoid hangs |
| 22:18:26 | CIA-81 | Commit by jethead71 (cc26850): Cut a few instructions from lcd_copy_buffer_rect. |
| 22:19:25 | ScHlAuChi | bluebrother: is the rest button supposed to work all the time? as in when you press it the player reloads? or only when it hangs? |
| 22:19:53 | bluebrother | it's a hardware line ... |
| 22:20:12 | ScHlAuChi | so its supposed to work always i guess |
| 22:20:18 | bluebrother | what's the point of a reset line if it needs handling when the player hangs? How likely is it to be able enabling the reset line if the player hangs? ;-) |
| 22:21:27 | ScHlAuChi | true, just wondering cause when i start the original firmware and press the button - the player resets, but when i start rockbox and press it, nothing happens |
| 22:22:20 | ScHlAuChi | which is why i assumed it had something to do with the firmware |
| 22:23:43 | ScHlAuChi | so when you have rockbox started and press the rest button on your iHP, it resets? |
| 22:24:11 | bluebrother | yes. |
| 22:24:22 | ScHlAuChi | hmmmmm why does it not for me! |
| 22:24:24 | bluebrother | I even tried it just now. |
| 22:24:51 | bluebrother | maybe the button is loose |
| 22:24:54 | ScHlAuChi | nah |
| 22:25:01 | bluebrother | it's some cheapish metal thingy |
| 22:25:04 | ScHlAuChi | if i start original firmware |
| 22:25:14 | ScHlAuChi | it always works |
| 22:25:15 | stripwax | metal + plastic. i managed to break mine (through over-use) |
| 22:25:33 | ScHlAuChi | but once i start rockbox it doesnt react anymore |
| 22:26:21 | stripwax | wait, ihp1xx or ihp3xx? |
| 22:26:28 | ScHlAuChi | iHP-140 |
| 22:26:38 | ScHlAuChi | upgraded with 240GB HD |
| 22:26:46 | stripwax | wow, nice. |
| 22:26:59 | stripwax | i have the 120, and like bluebrother, the reset works for me.. |
| 22:27:07 | ScHlAuChi | yep still an amazing player to this day |
| 22:27:13 | ScHlAuChi | yeah it does work for me too |
| 22:27:26 | ScHlAuChi | but only when i start the original firmware |
| 22:27:46 | ScHlAuChi | original firmware -> button click -> it resets |
| 22:27:54 | ScHlAuChi | rockbox -> button click -> nothing happens |
| 22:27:59 | ScHlAuChi | rockbox -> button hold -> nothing happens |
| 22:28:15 | bluebrother | well, you shouldn't use the hold button :P |
| 22:28:29 | ScHlAuChi | no i mean im holding down the rest button ;) |
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| 22:28:36 | ScHlAuChi | reset |
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| 22:33:13 | saratoga | when I do git commit do I have to follow a template for commit messages or should I just do what I would do with svn |
| 22:33:59 | Torne | http://tbaggery.com/2008/04/19/a-note-about-git-commit-messages.h |
| 22:34:02 | Torne | oops |
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| 22:34:09 | Torne | http://tbaggery.com/2008/04/19/a-note-about-git-commit-messages.html <- if you follow this people will be happy |
| 22:34:25 | Torne | we haven't exactly decided on anything formally but that is the "usual" git convention |
| 22:34:28 | Torne | for almost all proejcts |
| 22:36:00 | ScHlAuChi | guess it is the button |
| 22:36:26 | saratoga | so after I enter a commit message, its just "git push origin HEAD:master" to push to the internet? |
| 22:36:37 | Torne | yup |
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| 22:37:28 | shapr | I have a random user question. Is there a way to play all tracks by an artist in order of album, then tracks within that album? So far it seems I can play all tracks by artist in order by filename only. |
| 22:37:29 | Torne | there's a vairety of other ways to spell the push spec but that one just says: push the state of my current checked out branch (HEAD) to the branch "master" on remote "origin" |
| 22:38:22 | saratoga | which password am I supposed to provide? |
| 22:38:41 | Torne | you shouldn't have to provide a password |
| 22:38:44 | shapr | Or if that info is in the online docs, I'll just keep looking there :-) |
| 22:38:57 | Torne | shapr: the database doesn't support that kind of query currently |
| 22:39:14 | saratoga | "Enter passphrase for key '/home/mike/.ssh/id_rsa':" |
| 22:39:17 | Torne | if you have your files in artist\album directories in the filesystem you can just add the artist folder to the playlist from the file browser |
| 22:39:32 | Torne | saratoga: that's asking for the passphrase for your ssh private key, then |
| 22:39:43 | shapr | Torne: Thanks. Would it be difficult for me to add that sort of query to the database? |
| 22:39:46 | Torne | which means you aren't running an agent |
| 22:39:49 | saratoga | its not my system password, any idea what it would be? |
| 22:39:59 | Torne | it's whatever passphrase you used when you created the key |
| 22:40:05 | maraz | saratoga: if you haven't defined a passphrase, just press enter |
| 22:40:21 | maraz | although it's kind of weird for it to be asking for it in that case |
| 22:40:29 | maraz | hmm. |
| 22:40:44 | Torne | you probably also want to look into using an ssh-agent to cache your decrypted key so you don't have to type it every time |
| 22:40:54 | shapr | Torne: Perhaps I should keep my files in artist/album/{01,02}-$TRACKNAME for the sort of playing I prefer? |
| 22:41:00 | ScHlAuChi | ok so the rest problem is solved i guess, i just have to press harder :P |
| 22:41:23 | Torne | shapr: the database is not very flexible in its current implementation; people have tried to get that sort of thing to work before and it's tricky :/ |
| 22:41:26 | shapr | I suggest keychain, it's a nice script that handles starting an ssh-agent with multiple keys. |
| 22:41:58 | shapr | In my ~/.zshrc I have: keychain ~/.ssh/id_rsa ~/.ssh/id_dsa ~/.ssh/identity ~/.ssh/newkey.id_dsa \n source ~/.keychain/`hostname`-sh |
| 22:42:20 | Torne | if you're on linux using some desktop then there is almost certainly already something set up, or trivially enable-able :) |
| 22:43:28 | Torne | standard X session scripts often start an ssh-agent, and gnome-keyring and similar can act as one too |
| 22:43:34 | shapr | So, lexicographical ordering of filenames is the easiest way to get the playback order I desire? |
| 22:43:38 | Torne | shapr: yes |
| 22:43:47 | shapr | I can live with that. |
| 22:43:48 | Torne | or create playlists |
| 22:44:49 | shapr | Does the database support SQL? I could just write playlists in SQL :-) |
| 22:44:53 | shapr | or as set ops maybe? |
| 22:44:57 | saratoga | "! [rejected] HEAD -> master (non-fast-forward)" |
| 22:45:02 | saratoga | any idea? |
| 22:45:11 | soap | I'll pay you $500 to make the database SQL |
| 22:45:26 | saratoga | oh i just need to do git pull i bet |
| 22:45:29 | shapr | soap: that sounds like a No, it does not support SQL |
| 22:45:31 | soap | and I'm sure I could round up others. So, no shapr. |
| 22:45:38 | soap | :( |
| 22:45:39 | shapr | heh, ok then :-) |
| 22:45:50 | shapr | Would sqlite fit on these tiny music players? |
| 22:45:53 | saratoga | "! [remote rejected] HEAD -> master (you are not allowed to upload merges)" |
| 22:46:00 | shapr | I mostly write software for servers, so... I don't know the limits. |
| 22:46:17 | saratoga | theres a patch for sqllite in rockbox |
| 22:46:28 | * | shapr asks google |
| 22:46:32 | soap | IIRC sqlite as a replacement for the current database system was discussed before, but not sure where in the logs. |
| 22:46:39 | shapr | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/8852 ? |
| 22:46:56 | gevaerts | shapr: sqlite takes 300K and some RAM. That's a lot for some of out players |
| 22:47:42 | saratoga | it wasn't clear to me what sqlite actually got us over our current database |
| 22:47:43 | shapr | and having features available for only some players would be no fun |
| 22:48:04 | Torne | saratoga: you want to rebase, not merge |
| 22:48:09 | Torne | saratoga: git pull −−rebase, next time |
| 22:48:09 | Slasheri | the db should be able to run on 10 MHz CPUs and less than 8 MB of ram in total (some old archos players) |
| 22:48:21 | shapr | saratoga: I think sqlite would allow me to create a playlist for an artists where their albums were ordered by year, and inside that, the tracks were ordered by track number. |
| 22:48:28 | gevaerts | well, we can't stop maintaining the old database unless we have the new one everywhere |
| 22:48:43 | Torne | our current database is not *too8 far away from being able to do that kind of thing |
| 22:49:02 | saratoga | shapr: what stops you from doing that with our current database? |
| 22:49:18 | Torne | saratoga: the "all tracks" entries at each level always sort alphabetically |
| 22:49:24 | CIA-81 | Commit by giac2000 (cd99b0d): Fix install directions for the Clip Zip. |
| 22:49:27 | Torne | so while you can have a database *tree* that's ordered that way |
| 22:49:35 | saratoga | why is my username not saratoga? |
| 22:49:39 | Torne | if you don' go all the way down to a specific album it won't play in that order |
| 22:49:45 | Torne | your username is whatever you specified it as |
| 22:49:48 | shapr | saratoga: I don't know how to do that? I could write a script on that runs on my laptop and creates artist playlists perhaps? |
| 22:49:53 | Torne | oh, you mean on CIA? |
| 22:49:56 | Torne | git doesn't use usernames |
| 22:50:00 | Torne | they are purely for authentication |
| 22:50:14 | Torne | git identifies you as your full name and email |
| 22:50:25 | Torne | zagor's script is extracting the user part of your email, i think, to make a shorter name |
| 22:50:30 | saratoga | so really we just need to fix the cia bot |
| 22:52:14 | shapr | saratoga: Do you know of some way to play an entire artist ordered by album and track order? |
| 22:52:29 | kugel | saratoga: you could make commits from Saratoga@rockbox.org :) |
| 22:52:29 | saratoga | i haven't looked at the database |
| 22:52:49 | shapr | I haven't either, so I'm insufficiently informed to begin with :-) |
| 22:53:02 | * | shapr looks up the playlist format |
| 22:53:18 | soap | m3u, shapr. |
| 22:53:28 | shapr | tack |
| 22:54:11 | soap | Torne, I thought you had told me git head would get "mirrored" to svn so those of us not concerned with commiting would have some time to transition? |
| 22:54:27 | soap | I'm not seeing SVN progressing since 31646 |
| 22:54:30 | saratoga | kugel: do I need to change that on gerrit or with git config ? |
| 22:54:45 | Torne | soap: no, i definitely didn't say that |
| 22:55:10 | Torne | i said svn will continue to be readable at the last revision so people can update to the last version and diff their pending changes against it to transplant to git |
| 22:55:15 | soap | I misunderstood then, as the last line of our conversation was something like "oh, I have a few months to transition" ;) |
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| 22:55:50 | Torne | you've had several weeks, pretty much |
| 22:55:55 | Torne | especially if you don't intend to commit |
| 22:56:04 | Torne | the git repo has been a perfectly functional readable copy for a while :) |
| 22:56:15 | soap | this I know |
| 22:56:54 | soap | will git eventually show up on the rockbox-cvs mailing list? |
| 22:58:56 | Torne | yeah |
| 22:59:00 | Torne | zagor is looking into that stuff |
| 22:59:11 | Torne | the way hooks run is a bit different so it may take him a little fiddling |
| 22:59:42 | Torne | anyway. we could mirror back to svn but that will get.. exciting in various ways as soon as anyone has a reason to commit a merge. |
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| 23:02:07 | shapr | Is it possible to use relative paths in an m3u file, or must all paths be explicit from the root? |
| 23:02:21 | Torne | relative to the location of the m3u works |
| 23:02:29 | shapr | excellent, thanks! |
| 23:02:32 | Torne | we also strip prefixes off the paths until they match |
| 23:02:39 | shapr | er.... huh? |
| 23:02:50 | Torne | so if you have a playlist taht points at, say, f:\stuff\music\foo\bar it will work for files on the player in \music\foo\bar |
| 23:02:58 | shapr | ohh, neat |
| 23:03:02 | Torne | i.e. so you don't have to recreate the entire directory structure of your PC on the player |
| 23:03:05 | shapr | that is nifty |
| 23:03:27 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 23:03:34 | soap | yea, the stripping is the bomb |
| 23:03:58 | shapr | I should probably write this script in Python instead of Haskell, so others are more likely to use it. |
| 23:05:21 | shapr | Is there a preferred scripting language for rockbox utilities? |
| 23:06:44 | Torne | anything that can easily be run on windows/linux/mac |
| 23:07:07 | shapr | ok |
| 23:07:19 | Torne | if you wan tit to have general applicability then yeah, many of our users run windows :) |
| 23:07:24 | saratoga | i usually just use perl |
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| 23:13:30 | ScHlAuChi | Regarding the database search function - when you search for a file and it displays a few results - now when you play one of the results and you press "back" on the player does it redo the search? |
| 23:14:22 | ScHlAuChi | or does it cache the results temporarely so it doesnt have to repeat it? |
| 23:15:03 | bluebrother | you can check the used languages on ohloh |
| 23:15:37 | bluebrother | most scripts are in Perl, followed by Python. And various other languages. |
| 23:16:06 | saratoga | ScHlAuChi: i think its just generating a playlist, so that will persist |
| 23:16:17 | saratoga | no idea what happens if you go back to the top of the database tree though |
| 23:17:11 | ScHlAuChi | cause currently when i search - play one of the found files and press "back" the players seems to lock up for like 1 minute with the HD light on |
| 23:17:19 | ScHlAuChi | so i guess its redoing the search |
| 23:17:50 | soap | what player, what audio file format? |
| 23:18:13 | ScHlAuChi | iHP-140 MP3 |
| 23:18:24 | ScHlAuChi | modded with 240GB HD tho |
| 23:19:05 | soap | was curious if the file you had played was out of the buffer already, likely not. |
| 23:20:00 | pamaury | I have a problem with lcd_blit_yuv, is there any hidden assumption that I should know ? |
| 23:20:06 | ScHlAuChi | dont think so, i suspect when you press back its redoing the search - which in theory isnt needed if the search results are cached temporarely |
| 23:20:19 | pamaury | I'm trying this but it doesn't blit anything: lcd_blit_yuv(img_yuv, 0, 0, img_w, 0, 0, img_w, img_h); |
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| 23:25:43 | ScHlAuChi | soap: im not a coder, but i guess "search for file" and "display results" is in a single loop - and when you press "back" it jumps back to search for file instead of "display results" |
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| 23:30:50 | ScHlAuChi | could speed it up alot if it didnt have to re-search everytime and have to wait 1 minute ;) |
| 23:31:03 | saratoga | do you have database cached to ram? |
| 23:31:17 | ScHlAuChi | i just enabled that option |
| 23:31:28 | ScHlAuChi | do i have to restart or does it work right away? |
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| 23:32:21 | saratoga | i think you have to restart |
| 23:32:27 | saratoga | but that might have changed |
| 23:32:30 | ScHlAuChi | ok |
| 23:32:32 | ScHlAuChi | i try |
| 23:33:16 | ScHlAuChi | yeah that helped alot |
| 23:33:43 | ScHlAuChi | is there any disadvantage putting it into RAM? |
| 23:34:47 | saratoga | less ram |
| 23:35:04 | ScHlAuChi | yeah but what does that mean, some plugins not working etc? |
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| 23:46:35 | ScHlAuChi | thanks for the help guys - later |
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| 23:48:42 | pamaury | arf, don't remember who did the lcd-memframe transition for the fuze+, but he did it WRONG :) |
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