#rockbox 2012-01-23

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#rockbox log for 2012-01-23

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00:28:40	bertrik	my laptop build client now advertises arm-ypr0-gcc446 support :)
00:30:31	kugel	that's nice. but it doesn't seem to get build
00:30:53	bertrik	rbclient.pl complains: "Use of uninitialized value in quoted execution (``, qx) at rbclient.pl line 557."
00:31:07	bertrik	and "Use of uninitialized value in regexp compilation at rbclient.pl line 558."
00:31:10	kugel	I get that too
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00:53:21	captainkwel	kugel, how do you check framerate?
00:53:35	kugel	captainkwel: test_fps.rock
00:53:43	captainkwel	k, thanks
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00:55:43	kugel	captainkwel: you're going to need this patch: http://pastie.org/3233879
00:56:10	kugel	then choose (A)dvanced and then (T)est plugins in configure
00:56:34	kugel	test_fps doesn't build or work on touchscreen with current svn
00:56:41	kugel	grr, current git
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01:09:21	CIA-81	Commit 8a43603 in rockbox by Thomas Martitz: Fix flag for the viewport. Text is supposed to be centered.
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01:11:43	CIA-81	8a43603 build result: All green
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01:32:12	captainkwel	hmm. I'm getting 1/1: 32, 1/4: 61 main , 1/1: 16, 1/4: 47 yuv. hybrid
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01:32:28	captainkwel	41, 60, 18, 60 fullscreen
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01:37:40	captainkwel	fullscreen above meaning the binary in the hybrid build run directly from novaterm
01:38:14	JdGordon	[Saint]: did you try the touchscreen fix?
01:38:53	funman	captainkwel: 16 fps is not a lot
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04:24:24	[Saint]	¿ih
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05:18:18	[Saint]	Fuck!
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05:18:39	[Saint]	I wish we had the ability to check for next AA.
05:18:57	[Saint]	Even if it wasn't exposed as a tag for skin use.
05:19:14	[Saint]	Just to stop the horrible redraw on track change.
05:19:24	[Saint]	Its bugging me. Bad.
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05:20:59	[Saint]	I can't be a dick about it I guess...the amount of tags that exist basically because "I wanted them" is pretty astonishing. )
05:25:15	JdGordon	well noone else is asking for additions so go for it
05:25:21	JdGordon	I thought next aa could be checked for?
05:25:42	JdGordon	im not sure how it would work though or if it would fix your problem
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06:16:24	*	[Saint_] has a dilemma
06:16:59	[Saint_]	I want a generic RaaA manual. However, I hate TeX with a passion...
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06:18:07	[Saint_]	Is there any portions I could write that wouldn't involve me wanting to stab my own face after 10 minutes of TeX?
06:19:04	[Saint_]	I suspect plain text would be pretty bloody useless as whoever TeXified it would need to do a lot of work.
06:19:49	JdGordon	Is there really much device dependant TeX that needs doing?
06:20:09	JdGordon	or better, is there much non-TeX stuff that needs adding for a new manual?
06:20:35	JdGordon	isnt it just a device picture and fiddl with some config{} thingies?
06:21:33	[Saint_]	Hmmm...actually, you're probably right. There's a few non-TeX parts that probably wouldn't make any sense at all and news a slight re-word.
06:22:04	JdGordon	adding the build system changes is probably a good start
06:22:12	*	JdGordon is 3/4 asleep so probably not making much sense
06:22:14	[Saint_]	I just want a manual...and I HATE TeX...I was hoping there'd be more I could do.
06:23:45	[Saint_]	I was hoping "learn TeX" wasn't the answer to contribution here :)
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06:25:48	[Saint_]	I guess I'll concentrate on doing the thongs I can do. Like finally unifying the various selection fields in Rockbox.
06:25:58	[Saint_]	*things, lol
06:26:22	JdGordon	the what?
06:27:31	[Saint_]	For instance some settings offer values: 0, 5, 10, 15 etc where others are: 0, 1, 2, 3...for no good reason.
06:27:59	[Saint_]	In a lot of those situations finer control would be useful.
06:28:28	JdGordon	I doubt that, but the change should be free
06:30:47	[Saint_]	Some are actually backward compared to others, also.
06:31:15	[Saint_]	As in the values increase or decrease in different directions.
06:33:29	[Saint_]	All I could do would be unify them. A generic function would be much nicer then a tonne of duplication.
06:33:48	[Saint_]	But that's above MT head.
06:33:52	[Saint_]	*my
06:34:11	JdGordon	i suspect you're going about it wrongly
06:34:42	JdGordon	go back to your cabbie work... and bug me about the settings thing tonight (if I'm around)
06:36:14	[Saint_]	The only way I could go about it that I know I won't fuck it up would be to just adjust what's already in place, but tweak the values offered. Which isnt really much of a fix, but more aestheticly pleasing.
06:36:54	JdGordon	yeah, if you get me when I'm able to look at the code i'll tell you the proper fix
06:37:01	JdGordon	it should be relativly simple
06:37:54	[Saint_]	A generic "value between 0 and foo" function that all these could call in its place is what I suspect to be the "correct" fix, but a bit over my head.
06:38:10	JdGordon	thats already there
06:38:20	JdGordon	i promise if you can handle skin code you can handle settings_list.c
06:39:02	JdGordon	and as you're apparently a bit OCD (don't mean that as an offence) there is plenty of reordering/cleanup worth doing in that file :)
06:39:16	JdGordon	put all the related settings together in the config instead of mostly randomly
06:40:12	[Saint_]	I am, yes. I don't take it as a bad thing, and the bonus is its usually the tiny things no one else can be bothered doing :)
06:40:46	[Saint_]	I just don't like differences for no good/immediately apparent reason.
06:41:07	JdGordon	there used to be a good reason.... err... 4+ years ago
06:41:24	JdGordon	then i did a straight system replace to how the configs were loaded and that reaosn vanished
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08:58:38	kugel	zagor: i added the ypr0 to the builds file but it wasn't build by the build system
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09:11:59	Zagor	ah, the build master still does "svn up builds"...
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09:24:04	kugel	is the build table now sorted correctly?
09:24:24	Zagor	yes, just fixed that
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09:28:30	amiconn	Are the deltas calculated between the correct revisions? The table looks rather weird to me
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09:29:24	Zagor	amiconn: I'm not sure. I agree it looks strange.
09:32:01	Zagor	this looks more sane
09:32:48	Zagor	I'm still not sure though :-)
09:33:08	amiconn	Still not correct though
09:33:41	amiconn	Check e.g. 490c87c. It's just a change to .gitignore, so shouldn't cause any delta (except the occasional +/-16)
09:35:10	Zagor	yes
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10:03:59	JdGordon	[Saint]: ok, whats the issue with settings? which ones specifically?
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10:09:30	[Saint]	Ones I've notices are: Settings - Playback Settings - Rewind Before Resume, * - * - Rewind On Pause, and * - * - Skip Length. The first two specify different units (one in multiples of one, the other multiples of five), the latter runs backwards compared to the former two.
10:09:40	[Saint]	There's likely other instances.
10:10:12	Zagor	amiconn: actually, it is correct (but confusing). there were a dozen commits between 109084d and 490c87c.
10:10:28	Zagor	http://www.rockbox.org/irc/log-20120121#18:54:50
10:11:06	Zagor	in a commit burst (as we're going to have a lot more with git than with svn), we don't build every single commit.
10:11:47	[Saint]	...sounds odd.
10:12:24	JdGordon	we should stop doing burst commits...
10:12:25	Zagor	it becomes more confusing with the hashes since it is not visible there were commits inbetween
10:12:46	[Saint]	JdGordon: beat me to it :)
10:13:30	ukleinek	Zagor: you can log the number of commits between the last build and the recent one.
10:14:37	Zagor	yes, we've been discussing using a "lastrelease+count" commit naming scheme on the web pages
10:15:11	[Saint]	Note to all: If anyone else is aware of any instances in the settings where the values aren't multiples of one and it doesn't make any sense for them not to be, can they make a note of it here please?
10:21:02	[Saint]	Teehee...actually, the examples I listed above all list different units. One in steps of 1, one in steps of 5, and one in primes until 10 and then steps of 5 :-S
10:21:12	JdGordon	[Saint]: there is a magic flag settings need to make the list invert if it is backwards
10:21:27	[Saint]	Ah.
10:22:34	[Saint]	Skip Length is amusing...1, 3, 5, 7 (misses 9), 10, 15...etc.
10:23:09	kugel	it's kind of logarithmic scale
10:23:31	kugel	tiny steps don't make sense if the values get bigger IMO
10:23:59	[Saint]	0-240 should cut it for all. And give finer control at (probably?) no cost.
10:24:37	kugel	being a longer list is a cost on its own
10:25:03	ukleinek	Zagor: but that will only work if you release from the master branch or merge the release branch back into master. Otherwise you won't have tags reachable from master.
10:25:11	kugel	skip length is a nice list if you ask me. the steps gradually increase with the values
10:25:30	gevaerts	[Saint]: having to scroll through hundreds of items is no cost?
10:26:54	[Saint]	Yes. I just thought of that. Its the lower values I want finer control over personally. There's been a few times where I've wanted to select say 2 seconds, and can only select 0 or 5.
10:27:47	kugel	re: backwards, i think some lists are "backwards" depending if built on a scroll wheel target
10:28:18	[Saint]	0-10 in units of 1, 10-60 in units of 5, and units of 10 from then on would probably do.
10:28:19	kugel	so that scrolling forward increases values (on other targets the biggest values are at the top)
10:30:14	kugel	I think it's strange that we have rewind on pause and rewind on resume individually
10:31:10	JdGordon	i tihnk its strange people think its strange we have settings bloat
10:31:13	Zagor	ukleinek: git log −−online v3.10-final..HEAD \| wc -l
10:31:16	[Saint]	kugel: re: backward settings, skip length and rewind on pause differ in their "orientation" on a touch target. I know about the scroll wheel thing, but I found this odd.
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10:33:17	[Saint]	Hmmm...skip length is an odd creature. It goes up to 15 minutes.
10:33:30	ukleinek	Zagor: right, that works, but git describe will fail.
10:33:38	Zagor	yes
10:33:56	ukleinek	and the number isn't very helpful in general
10:34:11	Zagor	no, only to illustrate commit sequence
10:35:08	[Saint]	Hmmmm...0-10 in units of 1, 10-60 in units of 5, and units of 60 (presented as one minute, of course) there on?
10:35:36	*	ukleinek takes back the comment about helpfulness. It's just in another way unhelpful compared to the numbers of git-describe.
10:35:39	JdGordon	[Saint]: settings_list.c is to become your nemisis....
10:36:04	JdGordon	"scan min step" being backwards is nice and easy to fix
10:36:27	JdGordon	err, well, its correct on wheel targets as it is now though
10:39:00	[Saint]	I've found there's no "one sane way" to do this for all...but, the values should a: have the same steps, and b: run in the same direction (IMO).
10:39:19	JdGordon	b is agreeable
10:39:28	JdGordon	a really needs a better setting chooser ui
10:39:39	*	[Saint] nods
10:40:19	JdGordon	pretty much the steps for every setting is arbitrary... if there was a way to change the step size (based on scroll speed maybe?) then we would only need min and max and yeah
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13:02:34	JdGordon	[Saint]: you putz! have you tried the touchscreen fix yet?
13:02:55	*	JdGordon toiled on that fix for literally 15min and what do I get?
13:02:58	JdGordon	not even a thank you!
13:05:04	[Saint]	Hahaha...no, I actually haven't. I've not found the time to set up a new dev environment as yet. I was going to yesterday but it took far too long to rebuild the raid array.
13:05:25	[Saint]	#firstworldproblem
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13:20:58	[Saint]	Is the build farm building RaaA yet?
13:21:15	[Saint]	Can't say I've noticed if it is.
13:21:36	gevaerts	It is, yes
13:21:49	[Saint]	If it isn't, is there a reason? (Signing?)
13:21:57	[Saint]	Oh...cool.
13:22:14	gevaerts	But only building, not making available :)
13:22:28	[Saint]	gevaerts: do you know how signing is being handled?
13:22:37	gevaerts	It isn't
13:22:50	[Saint]	Or is it not, since there's no distribution.
13:22:55	[Saint]	Right.
13:23:21	gevaerts	We build RaaA for SDL and Android
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13:26:23	[Saint]	I can only think of three ways to handle signing, and I'm not sure about any of them. 1: a single trusted machine, 2: building from the farm and passing back to a single trusted machine for signing, 3: sharing a single key amongst the entire farm (possibly error prone?)
13:26:43	gevaerts	(3) is not an option
13:27:03	[Saint]	...its not?
13:27:15	gevaerts	We do want some sort of security
13:28:01	gevaerts	Sharing a private key amongst dozens of machines is madness
13:29:03	[Saint]	Its SPARTA!
13:30:26	JdGordon	especially if we are actually oging to add network stuff into RaaA
13:31:56	[Saint]	Well...it does assume we don't have assholes deliberately poisoning builds.
13:32:17	gevaerts	It also assumes that those machines are all equally secure
13:33:11	gevaerts	With central signing, if one build machine is compromised, we may have a few bad builds, but we can easily recover. With the key everywhere, it means we have to get a new key, which has all sorts of nasty consequences
13:34:56	[Saint]	So unless I'm mistaken, of the options I thought of (unless there's something I missed or I'm not aware of?) the "single trusted machine" is probably the best option?
13:34:57	JdGordon	is there any reaosn we cant have the build master (which is a client as well right?) doing the android signed build always?
13:35:27	gevaerts	JdGordon: it's not a client, no
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13:35:47	gevaerts	It should be able to do the signing after uploading though
13:36:46	[Saint]	Oh...derp! I failed to account for builds being passed back to the build master anyway. Whoops.
13:36:52	gevaerts	And if we want a bit more security, uploads could be signed separately so we know they come from the right machine. That would be an internal thing though, not something visible from the outside
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13:39:43	[Saint]	RaaA builds being made available would be awesome. A lot of people don't seem to trust the rasher builds.
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13:43:02	gevaerts	Rasher's builds should be just as trustworthy as buildsystem-provided builds would be
13:48:41	[Saint]	But there's the huge "not affiliated in any way" warning...and they're available from the unsupported builds section.
13:49:13	[Saint]	People probably have no idea who rasher is...
13:51:09	gevaerts	Well, there's the "not official or sanctioned" warning, which I think isn't the same as "not affiliated"
13:52:18	[Saint]	Ah, whoops...I remembered incorrectly.
13:52:45	JdGordon	the way we are doing android builds is just wrong anyway
13:52:54	gevaerts	It's true that he doesn't say that he's not not affiliated :)
13:53:03	gevaerts	JdGordon: in what way?
13:53:04	[Saint]	Howso?
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13:55:47	JdGordon	in that the apk contains the librockbox.so file... the apk should just be enough to almost bootstrap that, which can then be updated over the net from the java bits
13:56:28	gevaerts	Ah, right. I don't really have an opinion on that
13:57:38	*	[Saint] is shocked
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14:05:00	Torne	i would suggest the opposite, personally
14:05:06	Torne	teh apk should be complete and functional
14:05:36	Torne	rockbox works offline on other devices, why shouldn't it on android?
14:06:28	Torne	the more android-y we become the lower the probability that updates can be done without changing the java code anyway
14:06:42	Torne	i don't think trying to roll in our own update mechanism there is going to gain us anything
14:07:08	Torne	it'll just mean that if you install rockbox from teh market, then don't launch it until later when you don't have a network connection any more, it won't work :)
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14:09:56	CIA-81	Commit 0152541 in rockbox by Thomas Martitz: gitignore: Change librockbox.so to generic .so.
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14:11:27	lorenzo92	kugel: I've seen you're working to fix all the warnings to be compliant with the auto-builder ;)
14:12:17	lorenzo92	One thing before I go, I think you can merge the gpio buttons patch. I tested it for at least 15 days and worked fine so far...
14:12:23	CIA-81	0152541 build result: 1 errors, 0 warnings (Thomas Martitz committed)
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14:13:45	gevaerts	Zagor: that 1 error seems wrong
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14:16:36	kugel	man, still no ypr0 in the build system
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14:18:38	kugel	lorenzo92: oh, I thought it was merged already
14:18:59	lorenzo92	kugel: no problem ;)
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14:36:26	Zagor	kugel: that's because your client disconnected during the round. so "Nobody can build samsungypr0. Disabling target."
14:37:08	kugel	Zagor: hm, m client was disconnected when the build round started
14:37:37	kugel	bertrik's client can also build it
14:38:34	kugel	but perhaps bertrik isn't online
14:38:48	kugel	(I didn'T know my client isnt connected when I made the commit)
14:46:19	kugel	Zagor: btw, rbclient.pl throws this warning Use of uninitialized value in quoted execution (``, qx) at rbclient.pl line 557.
14:46:22	kugel	Use of uninitialized value in regexp compilation at rbclient.pl line 558.
14:54:16	CIA-81	Commit 016bc24 in rockbox by Thomas Martitz: ypr0: Allow dection of multiple button presses at the same time.
14:55:48	Zagor	kugel: that warning is just because the new compiler hasn't been added to rbclient's compiler check
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14:57:10	kugel	yay
14:58:28	kugel	oops, /me should have rewritten author information for git
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15:08:59	Torne	anyone have any thoughts on what we want to require before a change can be submitted through gerrit (i.e. by a non-committer)?
15:09:12	Torne	The default gerrit review process has "Code-Review" and "Verified" as categories
15:09:39	Torne	Verified is supposed to mean "someone actually tested that this accomplishes whatever it claims to accomplish (fixes bug, feature works, whatever)
15:10:11	Torne	you need a positive in every category in order to submit, and no negatives
15:10:26	Torne	but the set of categories is arbitrary
15:10:32	Zagor	in order to commit?
15:10:45	Torne	to submit a change via gerrit
15:10:58	Torne	If you push to master directly you can push what you like
15:11:33	Zagor	yeah but in gerrit you have multiple submits: submit to review and submit to git. we should probably not call both submit.
15:12:01	Torne	gerrit consistently refers to submitting something to the master branch as submit; the button is labelled submit
15:12:09	Torne	uploading a change for review is.. uploading a change
15:12:35	Torne	using "commit" for these things is worse than submit, imo, since with git commit is something you do locally before anything else :)
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15:12:59	Zagor	yeah, it's just rather confusing when submitting a patch is not submitting a patch :-)
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15:13:43	Torne	anyway, not relevant :@)
15:13:52	Torne	We need at least one category, and the code-review default category is sensible
15:14:37	Torne	the usual config for that is that project developers can give +2 or -2 code review, and otehr people can give +1 and -1
15:14:53	Torne	you need at least one +2 and no -2, in order to get your change incorporated into the branch
15:15:07	Torne	the +1 and -1 are advisory only; they don't enable or block commits, but they let other people voice an opinoin clearly
15:15:30	Torne	that seems reasonable to me; the questoin is do we care about having a second (or further) categories for things like "this has been tested"
15:15:32	Zagor	sounds reasonable
15:15:57	Zagor	I don't think we want that, not to begin with first anyway.
15:18:06	Torne	yeah. i am inclined to agree. We can always add it later, if we feel it's warranted
15:18:24	Torne	the way we use this at work is that usually people set their own commits to +1 Verified, beacuse they have tested them
15:18:43	Torne	but if they don't have the ability to test it themselves for whatever reason they can ask someone else to
15:18:59	Torne	but most of the time this is just one more button you have to click, so the benefit is not huge :)
15:19:11	Zagor	sure, having a field for "I have actually verified this on target" could be informative, but should not be required
15:19:28	Torne	yeah.
15:19:30	Torne	hm, actually
15:19:37	Torne	it might be possible to do that
15:20:03	Torne	there is a way to assert that this category doesn't block commits, i.e. a positive is still needed but negatives don't block it
15:20:24	Torne	maybe you can disable the policy enforcement and just have it FYI.. looks
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15:25:28	Torne	Yeah, there is.
15:25:50	Torne	OK, so that might be worth keeping but just changing the type to NoBlock?
15:26:14	Torne	such that it's advisory only
15:26:27	Torne	probably also want to rename it from Verified to Tested? :)
15:26:40	Zagor	sounds good to me
15:26:56	Torne	also if it's advisory only we can probably safely let anyone use it
15:27:13	Torne	such that users can just say "i tried this, wfm" or vice versa
15:27:20	Zagor	yes
15:27:30	Torne	ok. i'll poke the database
15:34:55	Torne	Zagor: can you restart gerrit to pick up the change?
15:34:59	Zagor	ok
15:35:06	Torne	then i'll try it on the sandbox repo
15:36:10	Zagor	done
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15:39:44	Torne	Zagor: OK, that works great.
15:39:57	Zagor	nice
15:39:59	Torne	you can mark things as "works on target" or "fails on target"
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15:40:11	Torne	but it doesn't matter with regards to being allowed to submit it
15:40:23	Torne	we can easily change this later, it's pretty easy :)
15:40:42	Torne	ok, so that's one thing. yay
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15:42:49	Torne	Zagor: Hm, one more thing with this, actually: who should be allowed to actually press the submit button (once the constraint of "a committer has reviewed it positively and no committer reviewed it negatively" has been satisfied
15:42:58	Torne	just committers? or should we let peple do it themselves?
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15:43:21	Zagor	only committers imho
15:43:29	Torne	ok. we can always revisit it later.
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15:43:38	Zagor	yup
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15:43:53	Torne	The main thing there would be "don't commit something for someone if they haven't indicated they think it's ready" :)
15:43:59	Torne	but hey
15:44:02	Torne	that's not a major risk
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15:48:51	Torne	i'm gonna leave the submit method being cherry-pick, also
15:49:34	Torne	people seem reasonably happy with the minimise-merges approach to master, so we don't want gerrit to go and make a bunch of merges for us, and fast-forward-only is incredibly tedious since you have to rebase your change and reupload it and get it rereviewed if you are not completely up to date
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15:50:14	Torne	the downsides of cherrypicking are 1) it doesn't enforce dependencies between patches yet but will in a future gerrit version and 2) it means after you submit you need to rebase your local branch to make it "notice" that your commit has been included, since it won;'t have the same hash
15:50:25	Torne	the upside is gerrit can insert the lines in the message saying who reviewed it/etc
15:50:28	Torne	:)
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15:55:52	kugel	Torne: cherry-picking doesnt change the hash does it?
15:55:57	Torne	kugel: yes, absolutely
15:56:10	Torne	the hash is computed from the patch, the commit message and the parent commit
15:56:16	Torne	cherrypicking changes at minimum the parent commit
15:56:30	Torne	and gerrit also changes the commit message to add the reviewed-by lines and so on (since it might as well, as the hash has already changed)
15:56:53	Torne	If you rebase afterward then the rebase will just delete your local copy since there will be no patch to apply any more
15:57:00	Torne	but it doesn't trivially disappear the way it would with a merge.
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16:00:02	CIA-81	Commit a2b9466 in www by Björn Stenberg: Converted build farm to git.
16:02:36	Torne	Would someone like to review and commit http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/#change,64 for me? :)
16:02:43	Torne	just to test that it's working :p
16:02:53	Torne	(yes, to the real repo, not the sandbox)
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16:04:36	kugel	Torne: I don't see the tested and reviewed buttons
16:04:43	Torne	kugel: are you logged in?
16:04:49	CIA-81	Commit 2ab2857 in rockbox by Björn Stenberg: Remove svn id.
16:04:55	Zagor	whee
16:05:11	Torne	Zagor: we probably want CIA to read author, not committer?
16:05:17	Torne	as that should really have said it was by me :)
16:05:22	Zagor	yeah
16:05:49	Zagor	or both. I triggered the action, so I'm sort of taking responsibility.
16:05:55	Torne	true.
16:06:03	Torne	yeah, if theya re differnt it might be worth including both
16:06:18	Torne	So yeah, that's all working now
16:06:24	kugel	I don't think the real author is important for irc announcement
16:06:26	Torne	I will update UsingGit in a mo to explain to people how to use it
16:06:44	kugel	Torne: yes I am logged in
16:06:45	Torne	but it is enabled now, so you can try if you like (see GerritDemoGuide for the outline) :)
16:06:52	CIA-81	2ab2857 build result: All green
16:06:58	Torne	kugel: Where were you looking?
16:07:05	Torne	You need to hit "Review" on the patchset
16:07:14	kugel	the page you linked to
16:07:16	Torne	then as well as entering review comments you can select your vote for reviewed/tested
16:07:22	Torne	Yeah, they are not direclty buttons there
16:07:28	Torne	They're radio buttons inside the review-comment form
16:07:56	kugel	oh okay. I didn't see the review button
16:08:50	kugel	are we limited to one patch per ticket?
16:09:11	kugel	(one patch as in one change including newer versions of it)
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16:14:37	Zagor	meh
16:14:39	Torne	kugel: one current patch per change
16:14:58	Torne	If you make multiple commits and push them to gerrit together, they will be uploaded as multiple changes with dependencies between them
16:16:13	CIA-81	Commit 2ab2857 in rockbox by Björn Stenberg: (Author: Torne Wuff) Remove svn id.
16:16:35	Torne	kugel: try it in the sandbox :)
16:16:47	Torne	just commit more than once and push HEAD to refs/for/master
16:16:50	Torne	and you'll see what you get.
16:17:47	Torne	and yes, you can add messages/etc post-merge and they get emailed to the relevant people
16:17:51	Torne	:)
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16:21:06	Zagor	Torne: do you know if gerrit can be configured to use something other than `hostname` as From: host?
16:21:18	Torne	i expect so :)
16:22:04	Torne	http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/Documentation/config-gerrit.html#_a_id_sendemail_a_section_sendemail
16:22:13	Torne	yeah, set sendemail.from
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16:23:16	Zagor	I'll add a gerrit alias to rockbox.org
16:23:29	Torne	also user.name and user.email
16:23:41	Torne	will determine what it calls itself in git, if it creates commits (e.g. merges)
16:23:52	Torne	should probably be set the same :0
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16:43:07	kugelp	Zagor: we need an organization email for Github too
16:43:59	Zagor	kugelp: github@rockbox.org created
16:45:10	kugelp	okay, will change it if you don't beat me.to it (i invited your as a org owner)
16:45:25	kugelp	automatic mirroring would be nice too
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16:50:03	kugelp	Zagor: who receives the mails sent to github@rockbox.org?
16:50:09	Zagor	I do
16:51:18	kugelp	you can add me too if you like, but I guess its not strictly necessary
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17:10:51	Torne	I have updated UsingGit to cover uploading changes for review, reviewing changes, and submitting changes once they have been reviewed.
17:11:04	Torne	People: have a go at some point, and let me know if the instructions need to be improved.
17:11:42	Torne	Where do we stand on the rest of the infrastructure?
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21:13:33	desowin	JdGordon: (quite late, been busy) Sansa Connect port does not have RTC support, as I have no idea if the RTC is even connected to DM320. OF doesn't seem to use it, so the bug you mentioned (FS #12247) does not apply here
21:13:34	fs-bluebot	http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12247 Can't set time of day clock on mrobe mr500i (bugs, unconfirmed)
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21:15:03	desowin	hmm, 29234.. if that was later, that could mean some udelay() is too low, as I have fixed it to be precise
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21:15:51	desowin	(Connect was commited in 31000)
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21:20:48	fml	What is the role of FlySpray now that we have gerrit? Are people still supposed to submit patches on FlySpray?
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21:26:20	fml	IMO the point above should be covered on the UsingGit wiki page
21:26:25	fml	torne ^^
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21:41:01	Administrador	hello
21:41:16	Administrador	how can i choose the folders i want rockbox to scan+
21:41:17	Administrador	₧
21:41:37	bertrik	by default it scans everything
21:41:42	Administrador	its showing me audio files for games
21:41:59	Administrador	is there any way to change that?
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21:43:26	Administrador	?
21:43:45	bertrik	I don't know, but I guess it's in the user manual
21:44:26	gevaerts	look for database.ignore
21:45:40	Administrador	where?
21:45:45	gevaerts	in the manual
21:50:04	Administrador	cant find it
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22:03:09	Administrador	anyone?
22:03:35	alexbobp	you can't find the manual?
22:03:43	alexbobp	what did you download rockbox from, some torrent site?
22:03:46	alexbobp	rockbox has a website you know :P
22:03:47	Administrador	no
22:03:56	Administrador	i found the manual
22:04:15	Administrador	but cant see where it says how to select the folders i want to listen to
22:04:19	Administrador	in database
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22:05:59	Administrador	anyone?
22:06:01	alexbobp	it's in the manual. search for exactly what gevaerts told you to search for.
22:06:19	Administrador	i did
22:07:09	alexbobp	I don't believe you
22:07:13	alexbobp	because I searched and it's there
22:07:23	alexbobp	in 4.2.2
22:07:25	Administrador	found it
22:07:28	Administrador	thans
22:07:51	Administrador	do i have to do it from the computer?
22:07:55	alexbobp	if you spent as much time actually looking as you spent asking repeatedly on irc, you would have found it three times and gotten laid by now :D
22:08:11	alexbobp	it just says to create a file with that name. why would it care what you make the file with>?
22:08:53	Administrador	hahaha
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22:09:55	Administrador	how can i make the battery last longer without sacrificing sound quality?
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22:12:39	alexbobp	https://www.google.com/search?q=generator
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22:12:58	alexbobp	just click on "shopping" ;)
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22:30:00	[Saint]	alexbobp: a little harsh, dude.
22:30:30	[Saint]	I agree, people should search...however, Leta try not to abuse people huh? :)
22:33:48	alexbobp	sorry... we was just demonstrating such an amazing lack of effort :/
22:34:26	[Saint]	Lol...nice typo :)
22:34:42	alexbobp	oops
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22:44:32	beslayed	has anyone had trouble with a rockboxed sansa clip zip getting stuck in the "refreshing your media" screen?
22:45:40	[Saint]	Only when the filesystem is trashed.
22:45:50	[Saint]	(Personally)
22:45:54	beslayed	yes, i think that's what happened
22:46:45	beslayed	ok, i finally got into the of screen to reformat...
22:46:59	[Saint]	An unclean shutdown, or a whole host of other fun things can cause it. Luke failing to properly safely eject/unmount.
22:47:07	beslayed	yeah
22:49:39	[Saint]	Filesystem would be the first thing I'd check, but, if that's a bit of a bother for <some reason> then formatting will have the same effect...its just a bit more drastic.
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23:01:28	dfkt	i want to use the x5's power slider to turn the screen off on the wps screen (in other screens it's mostly used for escape) - is there some action predefined for this? - { ACTION_STD_?????, BUTTON_POWER, BUTTON_NONE },
23:02:17	dfkt	*ACTION_WPS_?????
23:03:55	beslayed	[Saint] yeah, I tried checking the filesystem, but couldn't get it fixed. Finally managed to get into the of and reformat. Re-rockboxed, and working fine now.
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23:10:15	JdGordon	dfkt: no
23:11:54	dfkt	JdGordon, i assume no other target has 'voluntary' screen-off as well?
23:17:02	JdGordon	yes
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