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#rockbox log for 2012-01-24

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00:38:37*[Saint] tells Nigel that RaaAoA needs audio focus ducking
00:39:01[Saint]"Make it so, Mr Sulu"
00:39:12[Saint] *Nigel? Lol
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00:41:29[Saint]"Drop audio playback volume by a pre-configured amount on notifications"
00:42:10[Saint]Thanks, dreamlayers :)
00:42:37gevaertsAh, right. Nothing to do with \_o< then :)
00:43:01[Saint]No, nor double-propellor-ducks.
00:44:42[Saint]Cm has a nice implementation, perhaps we can play stealsies
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00:55:45Rower85Anyone here awake? =) have a quick question :D
00:57:18gevaertsRower85: just ask, and if anyone both knows the answer and is awake, they'll respond :)
00:57:34Rower85Great :D
00:58:47Rower85I have this Sandisk Sansa Clip+ unit with the original firmware. After ive charged it with the usb and i take it out of the usb the device is always on, and it also turns itself on WITH music, this have on alot of ocations ment that it drained the battery out of the device.
00:59:12Rower85Is there a setting in this firmware that makes the device not turned on after losing the usb connection?
01:04:36Rower85gevaerts: do you have Rockbox? =)
01:04:56gevaertsI run rockbox, yes
01:05:19gevaertsWhich means I have no idea how original firmwares work :)
01:05:44Rower85well.. how does your device behave when you plug it out of the usb?
01:07:15gevaertsIt goes back to the main menu
01:07:30gevaertsRockbox doesn't automatically restart playback on disconnect
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01:08:38dfktRower85, if you update to a current rockbox bootloader and firmware, the clip+ will use rockbox usb for charging and file transfer - you won't see the sandisk usb screen any more
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01:09:49Rower85gevaerts: thank you, that was the answer i was looking for!
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01:10:12Rower85dfkt: and tahnk you!
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01:12:30Rower85Is there any way to put the original firmware back on the device if it breaks and i have to return it to the store?
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01:12:57gevaertsWell, that's a trick question, really
01:13:11gevaertsThe "if it breaks" thing is in the way
01:13:56gevaertsIf it breaks in the right way, there's not much you can do any more
01:13:59Rower85well, dont think the device was expensive though, so i guess it wont matter
01:14:25Rower85yeah i know, but for example, if the 3,5mm plug breaks..
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01:14:41Rower85like those faults, you might want to return the device ^^
01:15:14gevaertsThat sort of thing shouldn't prevent firmware updates, which is what matters here
01:15:48Tornealso if the 3.5mm plug breaks then it's fairly unlikely the warranty replacement service will even notice it has rockbox on it
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01:18:52Rower85well, so you are saying i can put the old firmware back if i would want so ?
01:19:25gevaertsYou can also boot to the original firmware
01:19:28dfktjust use an original firmware and delete the .rockbox folders - nobody will ever know rockbox was on the player (except the FBI)
01:19:34Rower85great! thank you, now im ready to update the firmware
01:20:09Rower85Better install rockbox now before SOPA deletes rockbox website :p
01:20:12gevaertsActually, if you go for the latest stable release (3.10), you'll have to reboot to the OF for USB. If you install a current build, that shouldn't be needed any more
01:21:23gevaertsoriginal firmware
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01:22:00Rower85a ha
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01:22:05Rower85but the current build isnt stable?
01:22:30gevaertsI'd say the current build is in good shape right now
01:22:38Rower85sounds good :D
01:22:40[Saint]There's a current svn bootloader available through ABI forums.
01:23:01Rower85And what does that mean?
01:23:04Rower85svn? abi?
01:23:14Rower85btw, hold on, gonna reboot system!
01:23:18Rower85only takes 1min
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01:23:57dfktactually, is the 4.0 bootloader still the latest?
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01:26:17Rower85did anyone say something while i was gone?
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01:32:04Rower85Ey, what build was the build i wanted to have? =)
01:46:51Rower85well well, thanx for the help =)
01:51:22[Saint]There's no need for explained to you earlier, someone will help you *if they are able to do so/available*.
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02:13:14Rower85[Saint]: i wasnt! The help i got was really really good and i am really greatfull for that, i am sorry if i sounded sarcastic :/
02:13:30Rower85Anyway, installed Rockbox on my device now and its great! :D
02:13:49Rower85Thanx everyone!
02:14:09[Saint]Good to hear, be sure to check out our fine manual.
02:14:20Rower85i already did, its REALLY good!
02:14:45Rower85The guys who made this software are really great :D
02:14:56Rower85Everything is so well done!
02:15:44[Saint]It has its flaws, just as anything does ;)
02:16:01[Saint]But its many orders of magnitude greater than the OF.
02:16:04Rower85well, the original firmware also had that, so i dont mind
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02:18:37Rower85the device went into the original firmware when i plugged in the usb cable :(
02:19:01[Saint]That's correct. It is intended behaviour for a release build.
02:19:30[Saint]You need a current build, and a current bootloader to use Rockbox's USB.
02:19:38Rower85Thats not good, then i still will have the problem with the device draining all the bat when the usb is off :S
02:19:48Rower85i picked the current btw
02:21:08Rower85well, guess i dont have to ask anymore questions now.. the device got stuck xD
02:21:13[Saint]The release bootloader still doesn't have this behaviour added. You'll need to a: compile it yourself, or b: get it from another source (which is entirely unsupported).
02:21:31Rower85aah i see ^^¨
02:21:50Rower85well, i better install the standard version then i guess :D
02:21:59Rower85if i can get it to work xD
02:22:37[Saint]USB will be completely supported by Rockbox on this device in the next release.
02:22:51Rower85woho works :D
02:23:12Rower85[Saint]: do you have any idea when the realese will be?
02:23:13[Saint]Additionally, to recover from a lock-up hold the power button for 10~30 seconds.
02:24:01[Saint]Ummmm....approximately 1.5 months or so, I believe.
02:24:11Rower85btw, how to install an older version of rockbox? do i only have to install it again from the utility?
02:24:12[Saint]There's 3 or 4 releases per year.
02:24:16Rower85nice! :D thats close! =)
02:24:53Rower85wow!!! it didnt boot into the original firmware =)
02:24:56Rower85<−− happy!
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02:27:14[Saint]If you don't actually need the player to mount (for example, if you're just charging the device) and want to plug it into USB to charge and continue listening to music/ can hold any button during USB insertion.
02:27:36Rower85ah :D thats great!
02:28:13Rower85my problem was though that the device went into the OF and then after i break the connection with usb it starts continue playing ^^
02:28:16Rower85and drains the bat
02:29:12Rower85but it seems to work now anyway cause i wont be playing anything under OF
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03:08:24Administradorhow can i install patches on rockbox?
03:08:37Administradorim using the 30 gb ipod 5.5g
03:08:51Administradori want to unable line out
03:23:35funmanAdministrador: look in the wiki
03:23:42funmani think there's a page named WorkingWithPatches
03:24:50Administradorok thanks
03:24:56[Saint]Administrador: Just to clear things up...its not simply dropping a file in the /.rockbox/ dir on your player. You'll need a development environment and the Rockbox sources.
03:25:22[Saint](you may know this already, but, it surprises some people)
03:31:59Administradordidnt know that
03:32:13Administradorwhat development environment?
03:34:52funmanthe wiki has all the details
03:35:52Administradorthanks anyway
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03:37:40[Saint]It would be pretty cool if you could just drop a *.patch/diff file into /.rockbox/ and have it automagically work.
03:38:12[Saint]But there's all sorts of reasons why that would be impractical, or just outright impossible.
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04:20:50funmanwow irc fights on #cyanogenmod-touchpad
04:21:02funmanabout "OC"
04:21:08funman"you stole my fix"
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08:00:48Mirinstall rockbox on my newish e260 and get SDHC capability and FLAC
08:01:03Miras well as an increase in battery life
08:01:36Miror stick with OFW and be able to play more movie formats but not able to use ANY of my micro SD cards
08:02:03funmaninstall rockbox, use both when you want
08:02:04Mirrockbox wins i belive
08:02:20Mirif i am going to play movies its on mai PSP
08:02:53Mirand hey funman
08:03:17Miri am thinking of joining the site/wiki/forum/thingy
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08:09:58factorWhat is the latest version of rockbox
08:10:05factorhave 3.7 on mine
08:10:22factorwashed it thoughhave to wait for it to dry
08:10:53GodEater_3.10 is the latest release version
08:14:55Mirand its a worthwhile update
08:15:02Mirtrust me
08:15:10Mirmuch more stable on some devices
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09:07:59wodzquick question to coldfire gurus: does busclk = cpuclk or is there some divider?
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09:12:13amiconnwodz: At least on mcf5249 and mcf5250, busclk = cpuclk/2
09:12:42wodzamiconn: that's what I thought but I can't find this info in datasheet
09:14:06wodzamiconn: Do you know max sampling rate of builtin adc on 5249? Datasheet doesn't mention this.
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09:15:20wodzamiconn: IIRC internal adc is used on some other target than mpio - do you recall at what freq this adc run there?
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09:17:56amiconnSection 8.3.2 "BCLK is always half the frequency of the processor clock."
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09:18:39wodzright - thank you
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09:20:56amiconnRegarding the internal ADC, I don't know which targets use that. Iriver H300 and iaudio M5/X5 use the PCF5060x, H1x0 uses some other external ADC (don't remember the type). Iaudio M3 uses a PIC (with a buggy and slow sw i2c implementation)
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09:22:46wodzhmm my memmory is failing apparently
09:24:11Zagor"Dave, my mind is going. I can feel it."
09:29:03wodzSomething weird is happening with battery reading on mpios. During startup there is HUGE voltage drop according to adc but measurements on battery with scope/logging meter show only mild drop.
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10:58:12wodz\o/ I think I found the bug in adc driver
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12:06:11CIA-81Commit e94d1b0 in rockbox by Marcin Bukat: MPIO HD200/HD300: Decrease ADC scanrate.
12:08:29CIA-81e94d1b0 build result: All green
12:13:01wodzTorne: I usually test my changes in local branch and than cherry-pick it to my master and than push. Does this workflow have any side effects from gerrit point of view (I mean this Change-Id thing)?
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12:16:07Tornethe changeid, from your POV, is an arbitrary identifier created when a commit is first made (and then preserved when it's edited)
12:16:10TorneThat's all it has to be
12:16:18Tornewhen you cherrypick it, it will still have the same changeid, and that's what you would want
12:16:47Torne(what it actually is, is the SHA of what the commit would've been if it had the original message, with an 'I' on the front, but that's just to get them generated uniquely to begin with)
12:17:57wodzThanks to being ill I squashed long standing bug :-)
12:18:54wodzfreescale datasheet is piece of shit in adc section
12:28:27CIA-81Commit dc85718 in rockbox by Marcin Bukat: MPIO HD300: Use MENU button to go back from debug screens.
12:30:52CIA-81dc85718 build result: All green
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12:48:19wodzTorne: Are we officially enabled code review on gerrit?
12:49:04Tornei sent a message to the list about it :)
12:49:11Torne...didn't I?
12:49:14*Torne looks in his outbox.
12:49:33Torneoh. no i didn't.
12:49:37Tornewrong envelope sender
12:49:45*Torne fixes his list subscription so he doesn't have to do that shit.
12:49:53TorneI'll send a message to the list about it shortly :p
12:50:14wodzok I'm going to fix FS #12536 then
12:50:15fs-bluebot Change Subversion to Git in CONTRIBUTING (bugs, unconfirmed)
12:50:33Tornethe docs on UsingGit should be current
12:50:36Tornethe rest of the wiki, not so much
12:50:47Torneso be wary of linking to anything else
12:50:49Torneand/or fix it
12:58:31wodzWhat do you think about such change to 'Patches' section of CONTRIBUTING document ?
13:02:31Tornei'd prefer something like :)
13:03:36wodzno problem
13:06:30CIA-81Commit fee6f80 in rockbox by Marcin Bukat: Update CONTRIBUTING to reflect our switch to git on gerrit.
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13:08:48CIA-81fee6f80 build result: All green
13:10:19TorneOK, I've actually sent the announcement about gerrit to the list now.
13:10:37TorneIs there anything else in particular people are waiting for me to to about git/gerrit? I am still poking at a better way to generate versions..
13:14:31*wodz is editing DevelopementGuide wiki
13:14:55Tornethanks :)
13:16:15wodzWorkingWitPatches should be marked deprecated I guess
13:17:07TorneWell, patches still exist
13:17:28TorneIt should probably eb updated to explain how to apply patches "nicely" to a git tree (with git apply or git am, preserving metadata where possible)
13:17:55TorneAlso, nothing in the docs currently explains how to pull a patch down from gerrit
13:18:00Tornenow that I think of it
13:18:05Tornewhich would be nice to have somewhere
13:18:42gevaertsRather, yes :)
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13:24:39Tornewell, also the difference between the.. four? ways gerrit offers you of doing it
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13:34:34wodzour vm image should be updated to contain git also
13:35:49wodzTorne: what is minimal git version needed for build client?
14:02:50Tornei don't know, i didn't do any of it
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14:02:56Tornebut i would suggest 1.7 at a minimum
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14:03:17Torneit might work with lower, but 1.7 is recent enough taht most linux distros should have it
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14:11:19desowinalexbobp: I would rather suggest to turn unused peripherals off than to get external power supply
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18:58:48preglowi assume my committer access doesn't automatically carry over to git?
18:59:07gevaertsYou have to tell Torne what your gerrit id is
18:59:16preglowi'll make me one then
18:59:28Tornenot your id, but your name
18:59:40Tornethe usernames in gerrit are solely between you and gerrit; they are not used for anything other than SSH
19:03:04preglowhmm, seems the aliases are broken again
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19:05:39preglowTorne: Thom Johansen
19:06:29funmani have received a bricked clipv2
19:06:51preglowTorne: cheers
19:07:12funmanfrom Daniel Jensen (don't remember his irc nick)
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19:08:24funmanProdicus i guess
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19:20:44preglowwoah, what's happened with the inter line distance on android
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19:21:53kadobani'm on linux, set up a dev environment with when i build and then run the simulator i get: "*** longjmp causes uninitialized stack frame ***: ./rockboxui terminated" any hints?
19:23:26funmankadoban: gcc version? and distro?
19:23:59gevaertskadoban: see FS #12559
19:24:00fs-bluebot -O breaks sigaltstack threads in Ubuntu due to _FORTIFY_SOURCE (bugs, new)
19:24:44kadobanoh, it's probably that...yeah i'm on ubuntu, gcc 4.6.1
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19:47:22kadobanyeah, the workaround in that bug report works like a champ, thanks for the help
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19:52:40AlexPCan I get gerrit to send me an email for all new tasks? Or is there RSS or something
19:53:00AlexPI'd like to know when new things get submitted without having to keep going to the site and checking
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19:55:33AlexPah, found it
19:56:30gevaertsWatched projects?
19:56:38AlexPyeah, got it now thanks
19:56:55*gevaerts just wanted to know for his own use :)
19:57:06AlexPah right :)
19:57:13AlexPThen yes, that :)
19:59:39gevaertsShould we migrate patches from FS to gerrit? I'd imagine that doing this with someone else's patch might not be a good idea, but maybe our own?
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20:01:15AlexPI think with your own sure, with others they can stay
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20:01:32AlexPIf people want to great, if not they can just rot there like normal :)
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20:38:28preglowgevaerts: wouldn't just closing fs for new submissions make that work out by itself? :>
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20:55:29gevaertspreglow: in the long run, yes
20:56:24n1sdo we want bug reports in there too?
20:57:33Tornethat would not be a thing :)
20:57:41gevaertsIt's not really usable as a bug tracker
20:57:44Torneyou can only create changes by pushing a commit with git
20:57:53Tornethere is no way to actually add stuff otherwise
20:59:13n1swe could have a dir of bug reports in git and people would push reports there :)
20:59:36gevaertsn1s: the thing is that we actually want people to report bugs :)
21:00:28n1sah right :)
21:00:29Torneanyone who is going to write a patch *should* know how to, at minimum, check out the tree and edit files
21:00:42Torneand just needs a fairly simple set of instructoins to push changes to gerrit
21:00:49Tornewhereas normal humans report bugs :p
21:02:48funman first clipv2 work
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21:23:34funmanour patched firmware is not written correctly/completely to the first blocks of the device
21:24:14CIA-81Commit b5b28ab in www by Björn Stenberg: (Author: Maurus Cuelenaere) Use #patchX anchors for linking to files
21:24:22gevaertsCan someone look at apps/debug_menu.c line 2247?
21:24:27gevaertsThat looks fishy to me
21:25:58gevaertshm, maybe not
21:26:26funmanif i force write the patched firmware with dd, it doesn't work either O:
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21:29:52bertrikfunman, you mean a possible bug in the patching procedure for clip v2?
21:30:29Tornefunman: i wonder if they are trying to make it harder to brick? :)
21:31:22funmanbertrik: a bug in our understanding of OF patching
21:31:40funmanand booting, since overwriting the first sectors of the flash doesn't help either
21:31:50funmanunless we have some different hardware
21:32:18funmani'll let it charge a bit and see if debug menu of the OF learns us something
21:33:12funman</SECURITY VERSION><CERTIFICATE private="1">QIg9.....</CERTIFICATE> => does it look interesting ?
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21:33:32funmani see that in the diff between what i wanted to be written and what is written
21:33:57gevaertsTorne: I guess one can push to gerrit from a local branch?
21:34:12funmandang, battery unsoldered
21:35:48Tornegevaerts: you can push anything you like
21:35:58Tornemy instructions use HEAD, which is just whatever your current checked out thing is
21:36:28Torneit will push all commits that are not already in master, as separate changes
21:36:33Tornenot just the latest one. :)
21:36:44gevaertsI did rebase :)
21:37:01gevaertshm, is gerrit reachable now?
21:37:55Torneif you get a weird error about connection being reset you haven't set the push url
21:38:05Torneand it's trying to push to git:// which doesn't work
21:38:50gevaertsNo, pushing was fine. It was the web bit being slow
21:39:04Torneah :)
21:39:35gevaertshm, now flyspray is slow
21:40:05gevaertsZagor: is the server fine?
21:40:22ZagorI think we're hitting the apache connections limit
21:40:26gevaertsah, ok
21:41:29funmanreserved flash size is normal (0xf000 * 512)
21:42:21funmanwith the OF, if i read those first sectors, they differ from the OF file almost exactly like rockbox, though the header doesn't have a 0x41. the diff starts at 0x366c00
21:42:49bertrikgevaerts, regarding the problem in I wonder, can't we just skip metadata?
21:42:58gevaertsbertrik: I have no idea
21:43:11gevaertsI only know it's a known issue
21:43:35gevaertsPossibly not tracked though, so I think the bug should possibly not be closed
21:50:23Zagoryuck, "diff unified" in gerrit opens one new tab per file :-(
21:50:56Zagor"Diff All Unified", that is
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21:51:52ZagorI guess I can just look in gitweb for a single-page diff
21:52:52gevaertsAh, yes
21:52:53Torneyou can also just grab the commit with git and look at it any way you like :)
21:56:54gevaertsI wonder how possible/reasonable it would be to set a gerrit change as the push url for a branch
21:58:52Torneyou can, yes
21:59:16Tornebut it won't work right if the branch has more than one commit
21:59:28n1sgevaerts, bertrik: i actually tried to hack around that bug a while ago and got some improvement but the container parsing in Tremor is completely brain damaged
21:59:36Tornepushing directly to an existing change updates it without needing Change-Id :)
22:01:24gevaertsRight, so you risk replacing it with a different change?
22:01:53Tornei think.
22:02:00Torneit might refuse if there *is* a change-id and it's different
22:02:07gevaertsok, let's not do that then :)
22:02:32Torneyou can set refs/for/master as the pushspec safely
22:02:39Tornesnce that parses the change-id to decide where to put it
22:03:52gevaertsah, right. That's probably the correct way then
22:04:09Torneyou can't pull from there, though, since it never actually exists
22:04:18Torneso you can't update a change easily that way
22:04:23*funman removed change-id hook from his repo config
22:04:49Tornefunman: as long as this doesn't result in you uploading lots of copies of the same thing by mistake, that's fine :)
22:05:00Tornethe instructions are for people who don't know what they are doing
22:05:08Tornefeel free to read the gerrit manual and work out how to do things :)
22:06:14funmanhow can send the same patch several times? the 2nd time it wouldnt apply no?
22:06:57Tornefor review, i mean
22:07:36TorneI would say it doesn't matter when pushing direclty, but that's technically not true; if you push something directly it will still parse the change-id if it exists, and mark any existing change for that id as merged.
22:07:46Torneit doesn't matter if you *only* push direcly :)
22:08:51funmani think mailing list is fine for review :)
22:09:31Tornei would hope that committers would at least try :)
22:09:33gevaertsDepends. If it's a reasonably small patch and it needs a quick check before committing, yes
22:10:03gevaertsIf it's a huge patch, or if you know it will take a few weeks and several iterations, I'd say gerrit will work better
22:10:12n1sbertrik, gevaerts: that file doesn't even use 1MB on the sim and it's likely less on target (due to 64 bit pointers and whatnot) so i think it's more a case of ENOMEM on these targets
22:11:00bertrikthis report is for the clip zip which has plenty of memory
22:11:04n1sit peaks at 973k
22:11:18n1show big codec buffer though?
22:11:35bertrikthere could be something configured incorrectly like that
22:12:23bertrikhow do I find out the codec buffer size?
22:13:08funmanconfig/ iirc
22:13:09n1saccording to the config it's #define CODEC_SIZE (0x100000-0x8000)
22:13:17n1swhich should be enough
22:14:04n1sah, no wait, the sim doesn't count the actual codec in that usage
22:14:14n1sso yeah, it uses too much memory
22:15:06funmanperhaps entry point on some clipv2 is different
22:18:03n1sis viewvc still up?
22:18:40bertrikn1s, we have 8 MB DRAM on the clip zip, is 1 MB codec buffer appropriate for that size?
22:19:09n1sbertrik: no target has more than 1MB codec buffer AFAIK so i'd guess so
22:19:43funmanbertrik: that's because it's in iram, the 0x8000 is reserved for rockbox iram functions (memcpy, etc)
22:19:43n1si think the only codecs who need a lot are tremor with aa infested files and aac with really long m4a's
22:20:52n1sbertrik: see;a=commitdiff;h=e1ea13ee75d545a4a945f5e24b652d8741a675cf and;a=commitdiff;h=2c85013434852540695bfbb74915a023d0e252ab if you're interested
22:21:52n1sit would be awesome if a better way was found that could just drop all that useless image data without blowing up the allocations
22:22:29n1si dont' think i'll waist any more time on it
22:23:40n1sin fact i can't say that i fully understand how my hack works :/
22:23:54bertrikI'm in no way familiar with the ogg/vorbis spec or code. I was hoping perhaps we could just skip over it, not even allocating at all.
22:24:09bertrikor, try the allocation and seek over it when it fails
22:24:27n1sthat's what i was trying to do
22:25:02n1swith only moderate success, iirc it may still alloc up to a full page or packet or whatever
22:25:20n1sbertrik: it's not guaranteed that the alloc that fails is the aa
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22:26:33n1sit's written like OO in c so it's really hard to follow and seems *way* more compli cated than it has any right to be for what it is
22:29:33wodzI have two ways to fix scrollstrip problem on hd300: 1) the simple one adds HAVE_SCROLLWHEEL to the config file and adds aliases for BUTTON_SCROLL_BACK/BUTTON_SCROLL_FWD 2) adds timeout at scrollstrip driver level after which _REL event is posted to the button queue
22:29:59wodzI feel that 2) is more correct
22:30:09wodzwhat is your opinion?
22:31:15wodzThe thing I don't like the most in 1) is that define name is not appropriate as it was designed for ipods
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22:42:39funmanwe assume (from mkamsboot.c) that the device runs with IRAM or DRAM mapped at 0; but the clipv2 OF seems to use 0x81000000 (iram alias)
22:43:07wodzis it only me or www is dead slow?
22:43:20jhMikeSit's failing
22:43:37jhMikeSwoo, now it's back
22:46:57bertrikfunman, nice find, but I do wonder why some clipv2 work and others fail, perhaps even some kind of hardware difference?
22:47:28funmanbertrik: some might have iram mapped at 0
22:48:36AlexPAre we going to get loads of testing gerrit things now to send me annoying emails? :)
22:49:18funmanbertrik: to verify this i must first resolder the battery firmly
22:49:36Tornei would hope that people testing it test on the sandbox )
22:49:48gevaertsAlexP: did you get email from my patch?
22:49:59AlexPgevaerts: I did
22:50:19gevaertsAh, good. I didn't, presumably because it assumed I knew about it already
22:50:30funmannot sure if i can solder with a storm-proof lighter - not sure either if it's #rockbox topic
22:50:38AlexPTorne: ah silly me, I selected all, not just all except sandbox
22:50:50TorneAlexP: yeah, you probably don't care abut taht
22:54:28wodzTorne: Is it possible to upload updated version of the code to review but by other person? I mean someone comes with brilliant idea how to improve the patch
22:56:07Tornewodz: yes
22:56:32wodzTorne: how?
22:57:20Torneyou just do it
22:57:26Torneit works the same as uploading anything else :)
22:58:24wodzok but first I have to have original patch in my tree (and then mangle it/improve etc)
22:59:23wodzaa gerrit gives hint how to download it - stupid me
22:59:40jhMikeSeverything has to go through gerrit now?
23:00:11ZagorjhMikeS: no
23:00:53CIA-81Commit 76440aa in rockbox by Rafaël Carré: mkamsboot: ignore built files / folders
23:02:46funmanbertrik: that doesn't hold. clipv2 of first instruction is a ldr pc, =0x138
23:02:48TornejhMikeS: well technically yes, but only in that gerrit is hosting *everything*
23:03:08Torneyou are a committer and can push directly to refs/heads/master
23:05:11gevaertsjhMikeS: you're right, you apparently can't view the playlist anymore after stopping. I'll close that task (the inconsistency with a reboot in between was really what bothered me)
23:05:51jhMikeSgevaerts: I think it's a UI thing only, it's still there and iff the database was used to create it, it asks about erasing it. it's not resumable though.
23:06:04funmanthere's no notifications of successful builds?
23:06:22funmanor erroneous ones
23:06:37gevaertsjhMikeS: the erase thing is a different issue I'd say
23:07:23wodzfunman: there are usual CIA notifications
23:07:25jhMikeSgevaerts: it's just telling me "it's still there" but not visible via UI
23:07:39gevaertsfunman: there should be
23:07:41Zagorfunman: it's supposed to say, and worked earlier today. not sure why it didn't now.
23:07:44funmanwodz: CIA tells that i committed but not 'all green'
23:08:13wodzI have problems with reaching www so maybe this is related
23:08:19jhMikeSwe switched CIA to run on fossil fuels instead of wind?
23:08:22funmanZagor: did it stop after you committed to www ?
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23:08:27funmanwell it did
23:08:46Zagorno, www is not built so there is no result message after that.
23:09:00funmanCIA-81 shows its support for SOPA by censoring build clients ?
23:09:19*funman rubs CIA-81's tummy
23:10:35gevaertsjhMikeS: maybe open a new bug report for that? FS #11644 was really about my attempt to make it persistent, so if we leave it open for this splash we need to retitle it and edit the description
23:10:35fs-bluebot Playlist isn't loaded after reboot if it had ended (patches, new)
23:11:31jhMikeSgevaerts: though there is one loophole, stay in the viewer from the WPS while the playlist ends
23:12:20jhMikeSick, switching from an m4a to an ogg causes a big "pop" in the audio ??
23:13:12gevaertsjhMikeS: I'd consider that to be a coincidence that's neither a feature nor a bug :)
23:13:44jhMikeSthe former or latter statment I made just above?
23:14:04gevaertsthe formet
23:16:12*jhMikeS sits Mr. Someone in the corner to ponder just what a "Dynamic Playlist" and a "Current Playlist" are
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