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| 01:55:06 | [Saint_] | JdGordon: Pongy-McPongington... |
| 01:55:19 | JdGordon | way too slow :) |
| 01:55:28 | JdGordon | i was pining for your ping yesterday |
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| 04:06:06 | IndexPhinger | I need some help with making a theme for my iPod 30Gb, I like the Terminal theme but I'd like to move around some of the now playing menu settings |
| 04:07:13 | IndexPhinger | Hmm...i'll read some more and wait for my iPod replacement battery :( |
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| 06:55:38 | factor | I washed my sana and i died :( |
| 06:55:46 | factor | Sansa fuze^ |
| 06:56:00 | factor | did not even last one time. |
| 06:56:06 | factor | not very NEMA compliant |
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| 07:24:35 | dreamlayers | Did you let it dry out long enough before testing? |
| 07:26:08 | dreamlayers | factor: There's a lot of info online on saving wet electronics |
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| 07:33:15 | factor | I thought I did |
| 07:33:31 | factor | I left it for a few days . but nothing no lights on the wheel |
| 07:33:37 | factor | I took it apart. |
| 07:33:49 | factor | was wondering if I could get the pinout for the display |
| 07:34:03 | factor | I program pic chips and would be nice to use it for experiments |
| 07:34:09 | factor | its dead . |
| 07:34:31 | factor | 60 bucks down the drian |
| 07:34:39 | factor | literally |
| 07:39:41 | factor | sucks oh well |
| 07:40:13 | factor | may think about getting another , but will be later. Will have to use my tablet as a music device |
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| 08:28:10 | kugel | dreamlayers: we should probably report the longjmp bug upstream |
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| 08:55:51 | wodz | yay - battery_bench on my HD300 ended after 39:24:21 ! This is with new 1700mAh replacement battery |
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| 09:27:59 | CIA-81 | Commit fab7264 in rockbox by Thomas Martitz: Force settings touchscreen mode in menus. |
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| 09:28:09 | CIA-81 | Commit 6eeca70 in rockbox by Thomas Martitz: PLA: Add map for android. Directional keys not available in point mode due to |
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| 09:38:56 | [Saint_] | chipper? |
| 09:39:17 | [Saint_] | Oh! Chopper...nevermind. |
| 09:40:36 | kugel | yep, typo |
| 09:42:52 | [Saint_] | I wasn't taking the piss, for the record...I was seriously curious what the "chipper.rock" plugin was :) |
| 09:43:33 | kugel | I realized :) |
| 09:47:15 | GodEater_ | good lord. A commit frenzy. |
| 09:47:20 | GodEater_ | we need some sort of badge system for that |
| 09:50:16 | kugel | each commit is relatively small though |
| 09:50:27 | kugel | like that more as a single commit? |
| 09:52:34 | GodEater_ | I wasn't complaining, I am impressed ;) |
| 09:52:51 | GodEater_ | your dedication to improving rockbox is inspiring |
| 09:52:55 | kugel | took me an hour to split the single commit I had locally up :) |
| 09:53:34 | GodEater_ | I think it's better as lot of little commits, since they're all separate features. |
| 09:55:00 | [Saint_] | Wasn't there a conversation in the very recent past about how it might be better to not to commit sprees like that? |
| 09:55:22 | [Saint_] | Since not every commit is built (or somesuch?) |
| 09:55:52 | [Saint_] | s/to not to/to not do/ |
| 09:57:32 | wodz | [Saint_]: whats the problem with that? I prefer to have well separated commits and what is really interesting is the total outcome of the bunch |
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| 10:00:09 | [Saint_] | wodz: I'm not sure, entirely...I just recall a conversation on the topic. |
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| 10:03:33 | GodEater_ | wodz: I think what [Saint_] is saying is they're *not* well seperated (at least, not by time), so in theory one of the commits might break the build, but we wouldn't be sure which one, since so many all got commited at once. |
| 10:04:02 | funman | the build system could make incremental builds |
| 10:04:18 | GodEater_ | it could, but it doesn't currently |
| 10:04:24 | funman | not really a problem though |
| 10:04:26 | GodEater_ | more work for Zagor ;) |
| 10:04:32 | funman | usually committers check and fix problems later |
| 10:04:35 | Zagor | incremental builds? |
| 10:04:48 | funman | build each revision |
| 10:04:52 | GodEater_ | Zagor: as in, definitely build each new commit |
| 10:04:57 | GodEater_ | not just the latest one |
| 10:05:08 | funman | s/later/immediately |
| 10:05:22 | Zagor | ah, I thought you meant some magic wizardry to only build modified code etc. |
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| 10:05:36 | GodEater_ | no -that would be magic indeed |
| 10:06:22 | Zagor | I don't think we should change anything until it we identify an actual problem. |
| 10:06:48 | GodEater_ | no indeed |
| 10:07:52 | Zagor | as long as the last commit is always built, we don't risk having undetected errors. pinpointing the exact commit that introduced it is likely not very important. |
| 10:08:49 | GodEater_ | probably true |
| 10:10:22 | kugel | GodEater_: that magic is called "make" :) |
| 10:10:43 | GodEater_ | kugel: yes, but doesn't our build system do a make clean first deliberately? |
| 10:10:49 | kugel | yes |
| 10:11:14 | kugel | building each commit would be interesting for the binsize, not so much for warnings/errors |
| 10:11:48 | kugel | but not important, one can always bisect if interested |
| 10:11:55 | kugel | locally |
| 10:14:59 | wodz | especially since bisecting with git is dead easy |
| 10:20:04 | funman | relying on make to do the right thing would indeed be nice |
| 10:20:15 | funman | s/make/our Makefiles/ |
| 10:24:45 | Zagor | the uncertainty is not so fun though |
| 10:25:01 | Zagor | but it would make blazing fast build runs |
| 10:27:32 | funman | even for developers =) |
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| 10:29:30 | oiaohm | I know this might be a bit of a warped question. After seeing this http://seeedstudio.com/wiki/DSO_Quad . I started wondering if rockbox has ever dreamed about doing perfectly matched hardware for it. |
| 10:30:07 | [Saint] | come again? |
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| 10:35:57 | [Saint] | 72MHz is a bit light in the CPU department... |
| 10:36:18 | oiaohm | [Saint]: the DSO Quad is fully open spec hardware. I was wondering if anyone has dreamed of doing a design matched to rockbox requirements. |
| 10:36:35 | oiaohm | I know the dso quad is too low. |
| 10:36:46 | [Saint] | I take it, oiaohm, that you're wondering if Rockbox a: runs on, or b: might possibly run on, this device? |
| 10:37:10 | [Saint] | Oh...right. I get you now. |
| 10:37:49 | [Saint] | There's been various attempts at building a dedicated Rockbox device. |
| 10:38:27 | oiaohm | Is there a list of them? |
| 10:38:56 | [Saint] | There's probably something on the wiki about them. |
| 10:39:25 | oiaohm | Its like the allwinner A10 and other quite powerful arm chips are getting out there quite cheap. |
| 10:39:39 | oiaohm | Ie allwinner is 1.5 ghz |
| 10:39:47 | oiaohm | and under 5 dollars. |
| 10:39:52 | [Saint] | It ends up being terribly expensive...its fun as an educational project I'd guess, but nbot terribly practical. |
| 10:40:14 | [Saint] | s/nbot/not/ |
| 10:41:23 | [Saint] | Lyre...that's what it was called, I remember now... |
| 10:41:47 | [Saint] | oiaohm: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/LyreProject |
| 10:42:11 | oiaohm | [Saint]: we are getting a lot of base tech. Like the raspberry pi and http://rhombus-tech.net/ |
| 10:42:31 | oiaohm | So there has to become a point soon were it will be afforable. |
| 10:43:02 | gevaerts | If you build hundreds of thousands of the things, yes |
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| 10:43:53 | oiaohm | Thing is knowing what rockbox required to perform decently. |
| 10:43:58 | oiaohm | So you can spot the techs worth following. |
| 10:43:58 | [Saint] | Forr those that run either full linux distros, or a linux-esque OS, we have an SDL port. |
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| 10:44:58 | gevaerts | If you want traditional rockbox (as opposed to RaaA) 1.5gHz is *vastly* overpowered |
| 10:45:00 | oiaohm | So rasbery pi ram A version ram limit of 128 megs is going to do rockbox self in. |
| 10:45:17 | gevaerts | huh? |
| 10:45:19 | oiaohm | there is stacks of different techs at the moment. |
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| 10:45:47 | oiaohm | rasbbery pi 700 mhz arm 128-256 meg depending on version. |
| 10:46:05 | [Saint] | which is foolishly overpowered for Rockbox |
| 10:46:22 | gevaerts | Well, not foolishly I'd say, if you like APE |
| 10:46:47 | [Saint] | that's foolish, though :) |
| 10:47:22 | gevaerts | What's the raspberry pi's audio quality like though? That's not unimportant |
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| 10:47:46 | oiaohm | gevaerts: cd level or better. |
| 10:48:06 | gevaerts | That's specs, not quality |
| 10:48:17 | wodz | The most expensive parts of the idea are the peripherials and housing. SoC is relatively tiny friction of total cost |
| 10:48:22 | gevaerts | It's easy to do 44.1kHz 16 bit audio with lots of noise |
| 10:48:24 | [Saint] | oiaohm: It might be worth investigating the hardware Rockbox does already run on. |
| 10:48:52 | [Saint] | It doesn't need to be a Machine-of-Death |
| 10:49:23 | wodz | Ah, and proper routing of the PCB is quite tough topic |
| 10:49:35 | oiaohm | The chip at the core of the rasberry pi is arm chip design by broadcom targeting multimedia. |
| 10:50:29 | Zagor | oiaohm: that chip cannot play audio. you need a dac and an amplifier. |
| 10:50:51 | oiaohm | BCM2835 |
| 10:50:52 | wodz | oiaohm: have you read about technical aspects of rasberry Pi? From porting point of view this is no-go. It boots though custom RISC graphic core with no public specs |
| 10:51:09 | wodz | the only doable option is RaaA on PI |
| 10:52:25 | wodz | and HDMI video interface is not what you want for portable device |
| 10:53:48 | Zagor | the pi does have an analog jack, but I haven't seen what hardware it is connected to |
| 10:53:49 | wodz | What *would* be interesting is to port rockbox to some Cortex-M3 based SoC. It should be sufficient and is power efficient and cheap. |
| 10:54:52 | oiaohm | Zagor: the SOC after a basic amp. |
| 10:55:16 | oiaohm | Zagor: PI is almost a 1 chip design. |
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| 10:56:22 | oiaohm | That the thing there are a lot of one chip design arm chips out there at the moment. |
| 10:56:37 | GodEater_ | preaching to the choir a little there. |
| 10:56:44 | Zagor | are you saying the bcm2835 contains an internal dac? I can't see that on google. |
| 10:57:04 | oiaohm | Zagor: Yep. |
| 10:57:15 | wodz | bom for PI is available so this should be easy to check |
| 10:57:17 | GodEater_ | citation needed! |
| 10:59:28 | Zagor | the pi appears as closed as any other proprietary box. no data sheets, binary drivers etc. |
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| 11:01:04 | wodz | Zagor: ...and weird boot scheme |
| 11:05:38 | oiaohm | Zagor: https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/commits/rpi-patches You do have the kernel source to the PI. |
| 11:06:52 | Zagor | and the graphics acceleration? |
| 11:07:25 | oiaohm | Zagor: Not sure if the mesa side is released yet. |
| 11:09:09 | oiaohm | Of course there is most likely a few firmware blobs |
| 11:09:09 | oiaohm | But its in the range of decent. Zagor |
| 11:09:53 | oiaohm | So IP should be thinking a lot of people behind it are broadcom |
| 11:11:06 | oiaohm | How much is the min you would dare run rockbox on. |
| 11:11:41 | [Saint] | look at the early Archos targets... |
| 11:12:08 | [Saint] | Those that started it all. They're not exactly power-houses. |
| 11:13:07 | Zagor | but they have hw decoding, so are not comparable |
| 11:13:24 | wodz | oiaohm: My view on PI is like this - this is interesting how low you can go with price. This VERY well advertised project but it is not so interesting from the hackers point of view. |
| 11:14:52 | Zagor | we run 256kbit mp3 decoding on 27 MHz coldfire |
| 11:15:22 | Zagor | or 20MHz ARM7 |
| 11:15:55 | Zagor | so basically *any* current 32-bit processor can run rockbox |
| 11:16:45 | Zagor | lots of measurements here: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/CodecPerformanceComparison |
| 11:17:15 | oiaohm | Zagor: so the cordex M3 duel core running at 266 mhz as a side processors in the OMAP 4430 to the Cordex A9 duel core at 1ghz would be more than enough power. |
| 11:17:19 | GodEater_ | doesn't the Pi also feature hardware decoding? |
| 11:17:24 | GodEater_ | (of video at the very least) |
| 11:17:34 | Zagor | oiaohm: oh yes, by a huge margin |
| 11:18:17 | oiaohm | So basically it would be wrong to use a OMAP4430 like that only running the Cordex A9 to fire up the Codex M3 duel core. |
| 11:18:47 | wodz | single core Cortex-M3 should be enough |
| 11:18:51 | Zagor | "wrong" is subjective. I believe the objective term is "overkill". :-) |
| 11:19:32 | [Saint] | hahaha |
| 11:23:04 | Zagor | GodEater_: yes it does |
| 11:23:42 | GodEater_ | I don't know if the same hardware can also be used to decode audio though |
| 11:24:15 | Zagor | even if it could, it is far from certain it would draw less power |
| 11:25:46 | pamaury | the problem I see with the PI is that the hardware is not documented, and that they will probably only implement what they need, but the price is definitely nice |
| 11:26:03 | oiaohm | pamaury: Its new hardware. |
| 11:26:25 | oiaohm | pamaury: or at least newish |
| 11:26:46 | oiaohm | pamaury: basically the are doing the PI and the documentation and driver and everything else for the core chip at the same time. |
| 11:28:00 | pamaury | I hope so, but even then the hardware will not be documented which is a shame |
| 11:30:16 | oiaohm | pamaury: the circuit board design will be released after launch http://www.raspberrypi.org/forum/general-discussion/links-to-pcb-cad-design-files |
| 11:30:19 | wodz | oiaohm: don't expect too much - Eben explicitly stated that they didn't get the permission from Broadcom to publish SoC documentation. |
| 11:30:48 | wodz | and many parts are as binary blobs |
| 11:30:53 | pamaury | oiaohm: the SoC is the interesting part, we will never get the datasheet and I'm not even talking about the graphic subsystem |
| 11:31:19 | oiaohm | We will at least have enough to drive it. |
| 11:31:29 | wodz | pamaury: you have to talk about graphic subsystem as it is used to bootstrap on this platform :-) |
| 11:31:54 | wodz | oiaohm: we don't - we can run linux kernel THEY provide nothing more |
| 11:32:55 | wodz | this is pretty damn closed hardware with a bit of good marketing |
| 11:33:01 | pamaury | really that's stupid, broadcom seems to make interesting SoC but they are so closed... |
| 11:33:25 | oiaohm | opengl ES drivers will come with it. |
| 11:33:52 | oiaohm | Its not a paper weight completely. |
| 11:35:18 | wodz | oiaohm: If you port rb to PI (not as RaaA) within a 5 years I owe you a beer. |
| 11:35:52 | pamaury | if you include the binary blobs that might be possible no ? That's quite unsatisfactory but hey... |
| 11:36:39 | oiaohm | pamaury: like the major blob the gpu one is in the first stage boot loader. So as long as what I run is after that I don't need to get that one. |
| 11:36:47 | wodz | pamaury: Gonna pickup the contest :-; |
| 11:36:51 | wodz | ? |
| 11:37:17 | oiaohm | wodz: as long as I don't have to nuke the first stage boot loader I should stand a fair chance. |
| 11:37:39 | wodz | I am really sick of hearing PI is open platform. |
| 11:37:40 | oiaohm | Ie if you were mean and said I had to beat the first stage boot loader I would be in trouble. |
| 11:38:05 | oiaohm | wodz: I was more looking at affordable parts that could possible be recycled as is. |
| 11:38:14 | oiaohm | Or close as possible. |
| 11:38:23 | oiaohm | Ie volume makes stuff well cheaper. |
| 11:39:00 | wodz | oiaohm: I think even the part after 1st stage bl will not be trivial |
| 11:39:03 | [Saint] | Is someone able to do me a favour and build me a RaaA .apk at 240x320 please? It would be much appreciated, my build environment has fallen over and I'd like to do some testing on device. |
| 11:39:07 | [Saint] | Thanks in advance. |
| 11:40:12 | oiaohm | wodz: I did not say it would be trivial. |
| 11:40:41 | oiaohm | wodz: just I would stand a chance as long as I don't have to beat up the first stage bootloader. |
| 11:41:16 | oiaohm | Because I know that boot loader will basically kick my ass. |
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| 11:42:38 | wodz | oiaohm: I really like your enthusiasm but believe me this will be tedious task with this level of documentation they provide |
| 11:43:49 | oiaohm | Yep the horid use source and bend. |
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| 11:44:58 | * | gevaerts recommends waiting until the devices are available, and then doing some tests on the audio to assess quality. If it's noisy, don't even bother |
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| 11:47:07 | oiaohm | gevaerts: exactly it going to come down to quality of the final device if it worth the effort. |
| 11:47:15 | oiaohm | gevaerts: there are quite a few at the moment. |
| 11:47:23 | oiaohm | That are worth watching. |
| 11:47:43 | oiaohm | But most of the items I have been looking at have be over kill to rockbox requirement. |
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| 12:01:36 | pamaury | wodz: I'm not sure I want to pick up the contest, I have enough to do with documented platform already :) |
| 12:03:35 | wodz | chicken :P |
| 12:04:11 | pamaury | don't tempt me...:P |
| 12:04:34 | pamaury | I might have ported it before iyou receive it ;) |
| 12:06:59 | wodz | pamaury: You work for Broadcom? I didn't know :P |
| 12:08:18 | pamaury | omg, that would probably be so frustrating to work for such a closed company |
| 12:09:56 | pamaury | I plan to buy one but if someone else can do the dirty work, I'm ok with it |
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| 12:15:41 | pamaury | wodz: will you buy one ? |
| 12:15:58 | pamaury | or are you trying to convince people not to ? :) |
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| 12:24:20 | wodz | pamaury: Its not my business to convince people not to buy - I just only want to calm down the hurray-enthusiasm which arose around this platform. Maybe I'll buy one - dunno |
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| 12:25:00 | pamaury | I guess lots of people will be happy with it because they don't plan to replace the OS |
| 12:25:16 | pamaury | and don't want to know how it works |
| 12:30:26 | wodz | pamaury: And it runs Linux so is cool (TM) |
| 12:32:17 | pamaury | well yeah, we saw what happened with android |
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| 13:33:54 | wodz | pictureflow manual tex file is a nightmare |
| 13:35:31 | wodz | not speaking about pictureflow.c by itself |
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| 13:49:59 | Unhelpful | wodz: Sorry :( |
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| 14:49:28 | soap | GodEater, I'm not /against/ IP bans. I played around with them quite a bit and never got many trigger hits. But if the tool is needed I'm not opposed to it. |
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| 15:21:59 | rasher | So, switching from openjdk-7-jdk to openjdk-6-jdk enabled me to build android rockbox |
| 15:24:21 | GodEater_ | that's interesting news |
| 15:24:30 | GodEater_ | I didn't think you could build much of anything with openjdk! |
| 15:24:37 | GodEater_ | I've only ever tried with the sun one |
| 15:25:56 | [Saint] | Thats also pretty interesting considering I've always used openjdk-7-jdk |
| 15:26:18 | [Saint] | And was yesterday until my build env fell over. |
| 15:26:27 | GodEater_ | fell over? |
| 15:26:35 | [Saint] | "broke" :) |
| 15:26:40 | GodEater_ | how? |
| 15:26:54 | [Saint] | The disk it was on shat itself. |
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| 16:48:02 | pyther | Hi. I got an ogg album that seems to crash rockbox 3.10, all my other albums work just fine. "Data abort at 00000015 FSR 0x8 (domain 0, fault 8) address 0x98B81000)" |
| 16:48:57 | funman | which model ? |
| 16:49:19 | pyther | SanDisk Sansa Fuze v2 |
| 16:49:43 | pyther | I ripped the cd using rubyripper, and vorbis tools to create the ogg, the oggs also have tags and an embedded .jpg |
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| 16:53:20 | funman | ah that might be the reason, there are problems with the album art in ogg which take too much memory |
| 16:53:30 | funman | don't remember the associated bug on our tracker |
| 16:54:49 | pyther | well I'll strip the art and see what happens |
| 16:55:18 | * | [Saint] dislikes embedded AA in general, as a rule. |
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| 16:55:46 | [Saint] | there's seldom much call for "per-track" album art. |
| 16:56:17 | pyther | will rockbox use the cover.jpg or some similar file for cover art? |
| 16:56:23 | [Saint] | even if there is a call for it, it can still be done with an external image as opposed to an embedded one. |
| 16:56:24 | pyther | I don't really need cover art embedded in the track |
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| 16:57:30 | [Saint] | perhaps reading the manual might be a good idea ;) |
| 16:57:47 | [Saint] | Rockbox uses quite a few naming schemes for album art. |
| 16:57:58 | pyther | [Saint]: that is always a viable solution, thought asking in IRC is so much quicker |
| 16:58:19 | pyther | I that embedding the art into the file was a common standard, but it kinda does seem stupid |
| 16:59:13 | [Saint] | embedded art is usually HUGE as well...when there's no good reason to have art that's any larger than the smallest dimension of the screen, also. |
| 16:59:41 | pyther | I've been shrinking everything to 300x300 |
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| 17:02:40 | [Saint] | pyther: http://download.rockbox.org/daily/manual/rockbox-ipodvideo/rockbox-buildap3.html#x19-399000C.21 |
| 17:02:43 | pyther | funman: removing the album art, didn't help I'm still getting that crash |
| 17:02:56 | [Saint] | this is the manual section you'll want re: album art |
| 17:03:06 | pyther | thanks |
| 17:03:11 | [Saint] | nevermind the player type, its not relevant. |
| 17:04:12 | [Saint] | you'll want to look at "C.21.2 Where to put album art" specifically |
| 17:06:37 | * | [Saint] has /Music/Artist/Album structure, so just uses a single Folder.jpg in each album's folder. |
| 17:06:56 | [Saint] | Its also conveniently the naming scheme from many media players. |
| 17:23:56 | * | [Saint] wonders why rasher 's "unmodified" daily builds carry the M flag |
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| 17:49:20 | Brijesh3__ | hi..............is there anybody who worked for AAC decoder on rockbox?? |
| 17:53:25 | CIA-81 | Commit 74736fc in rockbox by Michael Sevakis: find_first_set_bit tweaks |
| 17:56:42 | CIA-81 | 74736fc build result: 0 errors, 2 warnings (Michael Sevakis committed) |
| 17:56:55 | dfkt | Brijesh3__, AAC works just fine on rockbox |
| 17:58:02 | dfkt | oh sorry, misunderstood you |
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| 20:08:49 | CIA-81 | Commit 900b494 in rockbox by Amaury Pouly: imx233: fix PHYISCAL_ADDR to handle the buffered region (hard to debug if misused) |
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| 20:11:00 | pamaury | I'd to move the fuze+ to unstable. I know I must update builds.pm but the icon field is unclear to me: to which icons does it refer ? |
| 20:11:22 | CIA-81 | 28a10ec build result: All green |
| 20:12:05 | pamaury | gevaerts: any idea ? |
| 20:15:35 | pamaury | I guess Zagor is the one who knows since he made most of the modifications to this file |
| 20:19:42 | CIA-81 | Commit d684858 in rockbox by Amaury Pouly: fuze+: mark as unstable |
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| 20:22:08 | CIA-81 | d684858 build result: All green |
| 20:37:05 | rasher | [Saint]: hm, might be because of my build scripts :-\ |
| 20:39:48 | rasher | pamaury: I assume it's talking about the images eg. http://www.rockbox.org/playerpics/archosondiosp-small.png |
| 20:40:33 | pamaury | hm, so we actually have fuze+ icons |
| 20:45:32 | pamaury | that's frustrating, the fuze+ OF changes the DC-DC frequency when tuner is enabled but when I does that, it simply shutdowns ! |
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| 21:47:18 | saratoga | kugel: is the volume set correctly in this commit: http://git.rockbox.org/?p=rockbox.git;a=commitdiff;h=1dcc834e5954cfd662e501565d265c3d0c8d9cae |
| 21:48:01 | saratoga | IIRC it reduced the volume by 4dB |
| 21:48:41 | saratoga | IIRC the R0 has an as3543, so it probably needs the AMSv2 value |
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| 22:16:49 | Guest35250 | I have a question regarding thmees |
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| 22:18:06 | Baltowolf | Anyone? |
| 22:18:56 | bluebrother^ | not if you don't ask your question |
| 22:19:06 | * | bluebrother^ is unlikely to answer an unasked question |
| 22:19:23 | Baltowolf | Well, I was seeing if someone would response first... |
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| 22:20:26 | Baltowolf | So, I'm trying to "port"/redesign a theme, the iLike theme, I just changed the backdrop, and the only other thing I want to do is change the pause/play buttons, I took the blue pause/play buttons I wanted from the other iLike theme and scaled them but there's a magenta transparency color in Rockbox. Hwo do I remove it? |
| 22:20:54 | bluebrother^ | why do you want to remove transparency? |
| 22:21:31 | Baltowolf | Well, I want to remove the color showing through. |
| 22:21:50 | bluebrother^ | which color showing through what? |
| 22:22:21 | Baltowolf | The magenta color is showing through the backdrop. |
| 22:22:29 | bluebrother^ | that magenta is the key for transparency. Use it for areas that should be transparent. If you want an area not to be transparent use a different color |
| 22:22:44 | bluebrother^ | then you likely have changed the color. |
| 22:23:02 | Baltowolf | What do you mean? |
| 22:23:05 | bluebrother^ | or scaling did some dithering, ending up with some pixels in a color in between |
| 22:23:19 | Baltowolf | How come I can see it through the backdrop though? |
| 22:23:48 | bluebrother^ | err ... a backdrop is in the back. How do you want to see through the backdrop? |
| 22:23:54 | bertrik | don't we support transparency without magenta by now? |
| 22:24:20 | Baltowolf | Well, why is the magenta color visible? |
| 22:24:25 | bluebrother^ | hmm, there has been a change, right. |
| 22:24:27 | Baltowolf | I guess that'sm y real question. |
| 22:24:33 | bluebrother^ | because is a non-transparent magenta color |
| 22:24:38 | Baltowolf | Oh. |
| 22:24:46 | Baltowolf | So I need to change it then, right? |
| 22:24:50 | Baltowolf | Then it will work? |
| 22:25:05 | bluebrother^ | I don't think magenta as transparency has been removed, since that would have broken all existing themes that use transparency |
| 22:25:11 | bluebrother^ | if you use the right magenta. |
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| 22:25:31 | Baltowolf | So, which magenta color do I need to use? |
| 22:25:49 | bluebrother^ | ff00ff |
| 22:26:27 | [Saint] | "the standard horrid magenta in MS Paint" :P |
| 22:27:14 | bluebrother^ | :) |
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| 22:28:33 | [Saint] | If you rescale an image (Hi, I'm the iLike author by the way), the colors will blend...this is a fact. This will *completely* fuck transparency...and you'll need to re-do it by hand. |
| 22:29:31 | bluebrother^ | [Saint]: well, you _could_ disable dithering in your image program :) |
| 22:29:32 | freqmod | you'll only need to turn of any anti aliasing |
| 22:30:03 | Baltowolf | Ok, trying it now. Thanks. :P |
| 22:30:10 | Baltowolf | Nice them by the way Saint. |
| 22:30:18 | Baltowolf | *theme |
| 22:30:55 | [Saint] | I find even then they try to be "smart" and you'll still get a "ring" of blended color around the really obvious blocks of different color. |
| 22:31:08 | [Saint] | Maybe I use "the wrong editor(TM)". |
| 22:31:42 | freqmod | do you use nearest-neighbour scaling? |
| 22:32:00 | freqmod | if not the scaling algorithm will most likely interpolate the colours |
| 22:32:10 | [Saint] | Thanks, Baltowolf. You can thank Apple...I only painstakingly recreated it ;) |
| 22:33:00 | Baltowolf | :P |
| 22:34:59 | Baltowolf | now to see if it works... |
| 22:36:53 | Baltowolf | I think it shrunk XD |
| 22:37:08 | Baltowolf | I put it in Photoshop and used a giant brush and I took away some pixels I guess. ROFL |
| 22:37:27 | Baltowolf | IT looks fine otherwise though. I'll fix it when I get home, I've got to go. Thanks for your help guys. |
| 22:37:40 | Baltowolf | I'll report back if it works. :P |
| 22:37:44 | Baltowolf | bye |
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