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#rockbox log for 2012-02-01

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00:07:19saratogarasher: the sim used to enable them by default, but perhaps you have to select advanced and enable them in the configure script now?
00:07:39saratogaeither way, would be really useful to have them enabled so that you can do things like test the output of codecs with problem files
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00:50:25cliptesteris the site down?
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00:54:57Guest96408Ok, so I'm hopefully getting my player RMAd and replaced due to dust under the screen, to remove any trace of Rockbox and put my Fuze back to original firmware do I just need to run the uninstaller? I used the installer to install it to begin with. Will the uninstaller also replace the modified firmware with the original unaltered firmware? Thanks
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00:56:52gevaertscliptester: it seems to be misbehaving, yes
00:56:57gevaertsBaltowolf: reinstall the OF, and remove .rockbox
00:57:09BaltowolfDo I need to do it in that order?
00:57:50BaltowolfSo, should I just say, run the Sansa Firmware updater then remove .rockbox? can I use the uninstaller?
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00:59:00gevaertsYou *can* use the uninstaller, but it's likely to leave .rockbox there with some remaining files, and apart from that it just copies the OF back
00:59:00gevaertsSo there's not much point
00:59:18gevaertsTo reinstall the OF just copy the file you got when installing (fuze<something>,bin) to it
01:02:28gevaertsAnd boot the OF
01:02:31ungali1Is the site down?
01:03:00gevaertsungali1: it seems to be misbehaving, yes
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01:11:56Baltowolfgevaerts: so does that mean the uninstaller will do it fine too?
01:13:51Baltowolfand it does copy the OF back?
01:16:36Baltowolfalthough, all I'll have to do to reinstall the OF is just copy it there, right?
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07:00:31pixelmaTopDollar2006: how long did you wait while holding Power?
07:00:54TopDollar2006Player is now no detected by computer and remains black when plugged in.
07:01:14RogalCMight be a corrupt firmware
07:01:32TopDollar20061st time, 20 seconds. Next time, more than 30. Then 5 minutes.
07:01:53RogalCso no response at all?
07:03:47pixelmathe only other trick I heard of was letting the battery completely run dry (which can take a few days). Although getting the player into that state *shouldn't* happen with a current build and bootloader anymore
07:04:09RogalCunless the kernal panic somehow caused the battery to discharge
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07:05:16TopDollar2006I had just finished transferring some files over. I unmounted to device from the computer throuhg the PLaces dialogue (10.04 Lucid Lynx). The USB icon was lit in the rockbox screen.
07:05:37TopDollar2006I then disconnected the unit without powering it down. The rest you know.
07:06:24TopDollar2006Could that be possible? A complete arbitrary discharge of the battery?
07:09:14RogalCalthough completely random, it would be possible to consider that the kernal would also control the power management, including the state of the battery
07:10:42TopDollar2006Hmm. But If its instead a corrupt firmware, what steps to take to replace when the computer will not recognise the device at all?
07:12:37RogalCnot sure. i know there are things i can do in linux, i can't do in windows and vice versa
07:13:06saratoga_short of the NAND chip dying, you can't really corrupt the firmware
07:13:23RogalCif the download was corrupted mid-stream
07:13:50RogalCi've had images and regular files get crc errors and have to redownload them
07:15:31TopDollar2006It seemed to be functioning perfectly... right up unitl I unplugged it.
07:15:55RogalChate to help and run, but am falling asleep at the keyboard
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07:16:13TopDollar2006Well, thanks anyway... If anything occurs, and you have the time, please email me at Gotta get some sleep tonight...
07:16:17saratoga_sounds like it just crashed
07:17:06TopDollar2006YEs, but no amount of resetting is doing anything. It's crashed before, but not like this.
07:18:17TopDollar2006I'll just wait like RC said, then see what happens in a few days. Who knows... might get lucky.
07:18:25TopDollar2006Thanks all.
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07:36:59honeybearI have done the hello world tutorial and want to learn about how to do basic stuff with pixels now like e.g. changing the color of pixel 10 10. can anyone please tell me if the lamp applicaiton is the best one for me to look at to learn how to do this? i would like the most simple way to learn please, cause im not good with programming
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07:52:05webguest89This may be a repeat post. I soft bricked my sansa fuse v2 because I read the instructions very well.
07:52:46webguest89I use linux so I disk dumped the fuse file system and fsck(ed) it.
07:53:22saratoga_i don't think you can really brick a fuze v2
07:53:43webguest89I was hoping to fix the prob and dd it back onto the fuse but the filesystem was hosed beyond repair.
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07:54:24webguest89I think what I did was use rthe wrong USB setting in the original Sansa frmware then did a lot of rewrites
07:54:54saratoga_nothing you can do to the file system will brick a fuze
07:55:07webguest89The power switch will start rockbox but nothing happens.
07:55:35webguest89I tried to boot into the firmware and I get the over memory error
07:56:09webguest89I'm stuck at the beginning of either rockbox or thge firmware and nothing happens afterwards.
07:56:47saratoga_brick means it doesn't turn on
07:57:04webguest89I saw a post about picking off the first part of the Sansa MBR and starting over −− is thast an option ??
07:57:52webguest89I don't care about the tunes −− I have a back up. I just want to unfreeeze the fuze
07:58:10webguest89sorry −− I used brick the wrong way :-)
07:58:31webguest89Suggestions ??
07:59:57saratoga_whats the problem exactly?
08:01:41webguest89I boot into the Sansa firmware and get the "not enough space for the music db −− free up 90MB"
08:01:57webguest89I boot into rockbox (3.10) and nothing happens
08:02:22webguest89I dd the rockbox drive onto my linux box and I know the fs is trashed.
08:02:52webguest89HOw do I start over ??
08:03:03saratoga_so basically, you're asking how to get the sandisk firmware to boot with a corrupted file system?
08:03:20webguest89Acualy when I boot into rockbox −− I get the splash screen and nothing afterwards.
08:03:26n1sif you can access it over usb, why not just format the fs?
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08:04:04saratoga_i guess he can't get to it in USB if the sandisk firmware won't load
08:04:18n1swebguest89: does it get stuck on the splash or displays an empty screen with just statusbar?
08:04:28webguest89I can se the rockbox disk in dmesg
08:04:30n1ssaratoga_: how did he dd it then?
08:05:08webguest89then I just copied the rockbox fs onto my harddrive to fix it on my faster computer
08:05:19saratoga_so you're asking how to format a disk in linux?
08:05:29webguest89I gets stuckj on the splashscreen
08:06:36webguest89I know how to format a disk in lunux −− that was the plan. Using fsck.vfat has so many errors ...
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08:11:59webguest89I just connect the fuze to my linux box. Here is the "fdisk -l"
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08:12:42webguest89 Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
08:13:04saratoga_pastebin it
08:13:08webguest89"/dev/sdc1 ? 778135908 1919645538 570754815+ 72 Unknown"
08:13:30webguest89"/dev/sdc2 ? 168689522 2104717761 968014120 65 Novell Netware 386"
08:13:43webguest89"/dev/sdc3 ? 1869881465 3805909656 968014096 79 Unknown"
08:13:49saratoga_don't spam the channel
08:13:56webguest89"/dev/sdc4 ? 2885681152 2885736650 27749+ d Unknown"
08:14:25webguest89That's the "fidk -l"
08:14:31webguest89fidk -l
08:14:42webguest89"fdisk -l"
08:15:01webguest89Which partitions can I wipe off??
08:15:08webguest89Which one should I keep ??
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08:22:05webguest89has anyone used this command to get the hidden part of the NAND flash ??
08:22:14webguest89"dd if=/dev/sde of=orig_image.bin bs=512 count=$((0xF000))"
08:32:52webguest89I just figured out what pastbin meant. Should I switch over there ?
08:33:16n1sif you have output you want to post, yes
08:35:21webguest89"pastebin is under heavy load right now" ... :-)
08:35:32n1sthere are more than one
08:36:03n1sbtw your partition table looks werid with overlapping partitions but i don't know how the fuzev2 is supposed to be layed out
08:37:14funmanit's supposed to be super floppy : no partition table
08:37:20funmanbut partitions work too i think
08:37:47webguest89If I want to start over, can I create clean fs then dd it onto the fuze ?
08:39:53funmandon't create a fs
08:41:14webguest89Whatr does this do ...
08:41:21webguest89"dd if=/dev/sde of=orig_image.bin bs=512 count=$((0xF000))"
08:42:32saratoga_overwrite part of sde with orig_imag.bin
08:43:17n1sisn't ti the other way around?
08:43:28saratoga_oh you're right, misread
08:44:01webguest89OK −− I know it copies the image off the disk.
08:44:32webguest89Is it copying the image I need off the disk to rebuild the fuze fs ??
08:45:38saratoga_i don't know much about linux, but why aren't you just reformating it?
08:46:18webguest89based on this from the rockbox wiki
08:46:36saratoga_remember when i told you that your player wasn't bricked?
08:46:52webguest89I don;t want to wipe the wrong partition
08:47:28saratoga_so before when you said you had USB working, did you mean you did by following those instructions?
08:47:42saratoga_that is, you've disassembled your player and shorted pins to get USB working?
08:48:10webguest89I'm trying to follow the "recovery mode" instructions on that link
08:48:51webguest89I googled this for awhile and found that if I run the battery down to empty I could get to the same spot - that's where I am now without taking it apart
08:49:07saratoga_ok then what i said before was correct
08:49:15saratoga_you player isn't bricked and you should close that page and never go back there
08:49:23webguest89OK :-)
08:49:37saratoga_just go into USB mode and format your player using the tool of choice
08:50:14webguest89which drive should I format ?
08:50:30saratoga_the fuze's internal memory
08:51:01webguest89I can;t get past the "90MB" error into the fuze firmware
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09:53:05webguest89I have a fuze v2 with a corrupted filesysem .. can anyone help me get past the splashscreen ?
09:53:57funmanyes, sandisk. not us
09:55:54webguest89OK −− last question then. Am i wasting my time if I
09:56:58webguest89"dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdc(?) bs=512 count=$((0xF000))" and install an updated OF I made through mkamsboot
09:59:26webguest89thanks funman −− best wishes. I'll figure this out through the sansa threads
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11:28:19James_HuntHello. Please, explain how I can update currently uploaded theme?
11:28:31CIA-10Commit 5f387c2 in rockbox by Jonathan Gordon: skin parser: skip \t characters at the begining of lines to allow for more readable skins
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11:30:51CIA-105f387c2 build result: 30 errors, 0 warnings (Jonathan Gordon committed)
11:31:40JdGordonZagor: any idea who owns the herrero-dannya build client?
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11:32:32Zagornope. I'll block it.
11:33:53ZagorI should add an email address to the client command line
11:33:56JdGordonZagor: hang on.... something is wrong
11:34:04JdGordonwhy is the checkwps build loking for sdl-config?
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11:36:45gevaertsJames_Hunt: upload it with the same name and uploader email
11:37:22JdGordonconfigure looks broken
11:37:32JdGordonaround line 324
11:38:03James_Huntgevaerts, thank you. I thought as much.
11:40:09ZagorJdGordon: surely that findsdl call should only be done if we are actually interested in sdl...
11:40:24JdGordonthats what I would have thought
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11:41:47Zagorstill, I don't see why the grep line doesn't ignore the check. $app_type is "checkwps".
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12:05:41CIA-10Commit f417312 in rockbox by Jonathan Gordon: skin parser: Allow the first character after conditional seperators to be \n
12:06:43JdGordonZagor: the clients do a git fetch between every build in a ronud?
12:07:48CIA-10f417312 build result: All green
12:39:45ZagorJdGordon: yes. or specifically "git remote update"
12:40:13JdGordonisnt that pointless?
12:41:18TorneZagor: you could try checking out the sha first and only update if that fails
12:41:52Tornegit checkout $FOO || git remote update && git checkout $FOO
12:41:53Torneor whatever.
12:42:00Zagorsure, but why?
12:44:17ZagorJdGordon: why pointless?
12:44:52JdGordonwhy would it change between builds in a single orund?
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12:47:23Zagoroh, I misread. no it only does it at the start of each round. not for each build.
12:48:16JdGordonoh ok... I just noticed "fetching origin" in the build output and was curious
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14:59:31webguest122Hi, I'm having some issues installing RB on my ipod 5.5g 80gb.
14:59:40webguest122I made sure the FS is fat
14:59:57webguest122Both tried the manual and automated install yet to no avail
15:00:51webguest122the automated install gives me no mountpoint detected warning and the manal instal gave me [INFO] Volume IPOD on disk1s2 failed to unmount Unmount failed: Bad file descriptor
15:02:33CIA-10Commit c18a4e6 in rockbox by Amaury Pouly: fuze+: update to reflect the fact that we have icons
15:02:35CIA-10Commit 2894406 in rockbox by Amaury Pouly: imx233/fuze+: set a few recommended power bits by Freescale, remove some uneeded headers, implement audio path selection for playback and radio
15:02:37CIA-10Commit 0f02da2 in rockbox by Amaury Pouly: fuze+: check rectangle coordinates in lcd_update_rect
15:02:39CIA-10Commit ca10475 in rockbox by Amaury Pouly: fuze+: add basi pinctrl debug screen
15:02:41CIA-10Commit b1702a5 in rockbox by Amaury Pouly: fuze+: pin B1P30 is volume down key and has no relation with SD
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15:03:38Tornewebguest122: you can't just reformat the partition as FAT, you need to replace the partition table with a DOS MBR instead of a mac disklabel
15:03:55Tornewebguest122: easiest way is to restore with itunes on windows. harder ways are described on the wiki.
15:04:52CIA-100f02da2 build result: All green
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15:05:21Tornethis is assuming it was a macpod to start with, which if you previously used it with itunes on your mac it probably is
15:07:00webguest122I've done both the restores already. iTunes restore from my Windows box and the manual way from my mac
15:09:08webguest122It just keeps popping up with either of those earlier mentioned errors
15:09:39Tornedoes the ipod actually appear as a mounted drive with a letter in windows?
15:09:47Torneif not, itunes is interfering and you need to find the disk mode setting
15:16:50webguest122iTunes shows "Enable diskusage" checked yet greyed out. In the rest of the OS it's accessible; /Volumes shows it, same goes for other mount points
15:18:27*webguest122 is afk 5 mins
15:28:57webguest122hrm weird, just installed Rockbox manually from Linux just fine without a hitch.
15:29:11Tornei expect itunes was interfering :)
15:29:21webguest122Thanks for the help though. Weird that OSX is playing up.
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15:34:14webguest122 I guess OSX is just plain weird. Thanks again
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17:51:59CIA-10Commit ac4d648 in rockbox by Amaury Pouly: fuze+: use the si4700 internal oscillator and set a pin on power down (seems important)
17:54:24CIA-10ac4d648 build result: All green
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19:20:17bertrikpamaury, the problem you mention in your most recent mail is indeed happening right now
19:20:38pamaurytuning while powered off ?
19:20:42bertrikso tuner_set will get called while powered off for example
19:20:58pamauryyeah I was suspecting this
19:22:27bertrikthe tuner_power stuff has probably historically been done with some GPIO, while the tuner driver concerned itself mostly with just the tuner chip
19:23:14bertrikI think for the si4700 there is no real need to actually power it down, since its power consumption in sleep mode is very low
19:24:15bertrik12 microamps max according to the datasheet
19:25:57funmancan we charge through FM waves ?
19:26:42pamaurybertrik: the problem is that on the fuze+, tuner_power really powers off and the datasheet mention an errata if improperly shutdown but that's a detai
19:27:55pamaury(but since tuner_power off shutdown the internal oscillator, it needs to be enabled back)
19:30:26pamauryI'll be back later if you have any questions on the fuze+ radio
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